i would like to throw out to security vendors because being able to bed -- embed not just from a network perspective is eally going to be key into squashing any kind of ttack. how do we get down there and that we can ensure that is not being overrun. >> another good example that applies here is the whole smart city initiative. there are many cities that are taking this on and it really does exemplify the combination of private entities and transportation energy so there

is a lot more at stake. there are radio blockers that can actually influence of cities infrastructure. i think the state of indiana is n example recently held with ms services. i think it is going to take those local state entities that drive this kind of activity across all of these different agencies that really will make a difference in the long run. >> if i can try and triage my thoughts, if i am an nvestor.

could government -- the government is not-for-profit and says i will give money and pump it into the ecosystem, they put out a document in november of last year. it spoke about the american innovation ecosystem. have you fueled the entrepreneurial community? how do you create an incentive position for someone who does not want to collectively share information? what is the greater good? the grant money that gets popped into the economy. the grant is for going to discover and create something. when you can coalesce that, we know it is broken today. the president talks about this

ecosystem and how to create viability opportunities. that is a broken promise today. all these committees talk about t and i think people want to make a difference but in government and these institutions where privacy and protection does stifle that and that is something we need to put a microscope on. >> the last question is the undefended mandates. i don't know one who says i have more money than i know what to spend.

how can organizations who feel that they don't have resources can at least reprioritize to address the most important thing. how can they start on that path? >> it is training and enablement. t can be easily taught but most companies are coming out with negative fishing indings. it leads to these services and an the workforce to be stronger minded. hat is step one. >> my closing remarks the be is that you have to take the first step.

you have to know where your weaknesses are and you have to recognize that you have to fix what you find. there are people's reputations at stake and the message to the sea level is that you have to understand and be able to move forward with this and you have to create the budgets and the teams and create the culture within these agencies and within these businesses. it is only until you have done all of these things is the beginning of protection. you have to do all of these things so that you can start protecting yourself. >> i completely agree with the training. that is probably the least expensive thing.

it is the first line of defense so keeping and reiterating at but eventually it will sink in and we can all be very well armed and not click on the ink. the other thing is just good hygiene. use a separate system. multilevel work systems, they have been out there and long time. maybe look at that kind of technology. host: panelists, thank you that was a fantastic discussion. that concludes this evening's program. we look for it to seeing you next month for our next briefing. thank you very much. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national

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