tv Key Capitol Hill Hearings CSPAN September 9, 2016 8:14pm-9:03pm EDT
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[inaudible] >> the smithsonian's national museum of american history in washington will commemorate the 15th anniversary of the with aer 11 attacks special one-day exhibition on september 11. washington journal got a preview with the curator of the exhibit. >> we are looking at a collection of pieces. what are we looking at?
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>> the september 11 collection. the collection represents all three of the attack sites. we have from shanksville, pennsylvania. in the middle, we have the pentagon and on the far right, we have the world trade center. >> how did you get these? >> we sent to raters to each one of the attack sites soon after the attacks occurred. they curator spent their time three specific, focal points, the attacks themselves, the recovery effort and the first responders. we chose to focus just on three elements of the september 11 because otherwise, it would have been far too enormous to capture. it is very emotional to be able story from what
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was happening. they were able to really create a representative story about what happened on that day. >> some of these pieces make it the unveiling for the first time. interesting story. a note from the pentagon. contacted by the donor. they had a very interesting story. the couple worked at pentagon. when the attacks occurred, they both met at a prearranged site and that was the car. she got there first and left this note for her husband letting him know that everything is ok and that she is going to go to a more traditional evacuation area. is a wonderful piece because it reminds us that in 2001, cell phones were not ubiquitous. if i understand correctly, cell bustedoverage was
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because of the massive number of people trying to call, emergency services and call loved ones. it is a good question. what would you do to contact your loved ones when you don't have access? it is so much more difficult for us to understand because cell phones are everywhere. the simple note helps us better understand. >> on the table, some pieces of plain. we are also looking at a jacket from the world trade center. what is the story? >> this blog into d smith. an employee of the salvation army. i think it is significant because it helps tell a story about who took care of the first responders, who took care of the family members that were at ground zero. who took care of the law enforcement officers. people who were at ground responders,rst
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recovery workers and family members. those we know and expect. at the end of the day, someone was feeding them. were workingers 24/7, three shifts a day. someone gave them clothing when they were cold. the of this is happening in late fall and winter making sure everyone is warm. a place for people to meet. we are tried to help our visitors and future researchers understand that there was much more going on than just the recovery effort and we wanted to make sure people understood that. >> you spent a lot time putting the collection together. what do you want people to take away from looking at them and experiencing them? >> we are hoping by providing this object approach, it is a
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nice, standard exhibit. justan look at the objects as they are now. you will be able to integrate -- and to act -- interact with the staff. objects,scuss how the where they came from, how they were collected. most importantly, we want you to connect with the objects itself even you an intimate look to allow you to be your own curator and remember what happened on that day. as each passing year goes by, we are further away from what happened. we are hoping this helps people onnect with what happened september 11, 2001. >> you are seeing just a small part of the smithsonian. we are talking to the greater of the national september 11 collection. thank you for your time. >> the one-day exhibition will be open to the public on september 11, from 11:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m..p.m. --
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today, the house unanimously passed a bill to let u.s. andzens sued for nationals countries over the 9/11 terrorist attacks. it passed the senate in may and will now go to the white house where the president has said he opposes the bill. the measure is targeted towards letting 9/11 victims sue saudi citizens and possibly the government. before the vote, members explained their support for the legislation. >> the justice against monsters of terrorism act has been introduced over several successes congress as it has twice passed the senate. over the years that this legislation has been considered, i have worked with its sponsors to make the bill's language more precise in order to ensure that any unintended consequences are kept to a minimum. in particular, i have worked to make sure the extension of secondary liability under the anti-terrorism act closely tracks the common-law standard for aiding and abetting
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liability and limited to state department to foreign terrorist organizations. secondary liability should attach to persons who have actual knowledge that they are directly providing substantial assistance to a designated foreign terrorist organization in connection with the commission of an act of international terrorism. jasta as revised ensures that aiding and abetting liability is limited in this matter. international terrorism that causes physical injury on u.s. soil. jasta makes this change because under current law a foreign nation can provide financing and other substantial assistance for a terrorist attack in our country and escape liability so
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long as the support is provided overseas. for example, under current law, if the intelligence agency of a foreign government handed a terrorist a bag of money in new york city to support an attack on u.s. soil, the country would be libel under the foreign sovereign impugnities acts toward exception right now. however, if we change the fact pattern slightly so that rather than giving a terrorist money in new york city the money is provided in paris, the foreign state will not be subject to liability in u.s. courts. this is a troubling loophole in our anti-terrorism laws. to say that a terrorist attack occurring in the united states, a tort occurring in the united states, of u.s. citizens, would not allow u.s. citizens access to their own courts for a tort that occurred in their own country. when congress enacted the foreign sovereign immunities act in 1976, it put in place a broad
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set of exceptions to sovereignty immunity, including an exception for tort claims involving injuries occurring in the united states. however, the courts have not consistently interpreted those exceptions in such a manner that they cover the sponsoring of a terrorist attack on u.s. soil. jasta addresses this inconsistency with a concrete rule that is consistent with the nine long-standing exceptions to foreign sovereign immunity already provided for under u.s. law. jasta ensures those including foreign governments who sponsor terrorist attacks on u.s. soil are held fully accountable for their actions. we can no longer allow those who injure and kill americans to hide behind legal loopholes denying justice to the victims of terrorism. i urge my colleagues to vote in favor of this legislation and reserve the balance of my time.
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the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from new york, mr. nadler, is recognized. mr. nadler: thank you, mr. speaker. i would yield as manager of the bill on our side to the gentleman from michigan, mr.conyers. speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. conyers: thank you. i want to thank my colleague from new york, senior member on the committee, with whom i have worked for many years. mr. speaker, the september 11, 2001 terrorist attack on the united states was the deadliest foreign attack on american soil in our nation's history. it's impact has been immeasurable as evidenced by the fact that we're still grappling with the cultural and policy implications stemming from the events of that day. and 15 years on, most americans continue to feel its searing emotional impact.
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particularly as the anniversary date approaches this sunday. this is especially true for those who lost loved ones or were injured as a result of this horrific attack. they deserve our deepest sympathy and our help. so it is in this vain that we consider s 2040. the justice against sponsors of terrorism act. which, among other things, amends the foreign sovereign immunities act of 1976 to create a new exception to the act's general grant of foreign sovereign immunity. the judiciary committee held a hearing on this bill last july which the bill's supporters presented compelling and sympathetic arguments in favor of ensuring that the 9/11
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families have access to a well deserved day in court. at the same time, however, the administration and others raised a number of concerns about the bill's potential impact that we should keep in mind. first, the administration, some allied nations, and others assert that the enactment of 2040-s. 2040 may lead to retaliation by other countries against the united states given the breadth of our interests and the expansive research of our global activities. secondly, they assert that the bill will hamper cooperation from other nations because they may become more reluctant to share sensitive intelligence in light of the greater risk that such information may be revealed in litigation.
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however, they raise the concern that the bill effectively would allow private litigants rather than the government to determine foreign and national security policy questions like which states are sponsors of terrorism. because of the moral imperative of enacting legislation and the seriousness of the concerns raised, i remain hopeful that we can continue to work with the administration to resolve these issues so that litigation legislation can be signed into law by the president. i also want to acknowledge representatives peter king and particularly jerrold nadler and senators john cornyn and charles schumer for their tireless leadership and efforts to achieve congressional passage of this measure.
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there is no doubt as to the passion they bring to advocating for victims of september 11, 2001 attacks. a passion that i and many others share. i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from virginia is recognized. mr. goodlatte: mr. speaker, at this time it's my pleasure to both welcome back the gentleman from texas, mr. poe, and to yield to him a distinguished member of the judiciary committee, three minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. poe: i thank the chairman. mr. speaker, sunday marks 15 years since america was viciously attacked in 2001. i was driving my jeep to the courthouse in texas where i was a judge. people stopped on the side of the road because they were listening to the radio about how
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planes were used as a weapon to attack our nation. 3,000 americans and people from other nations were murdered at the hands of evil, malicious terrorists. and our country changed forever that day. the lives of those families especially changed, those families that suffered loved ones that were killed and injured and are still injured today. meanwhile, we are here debating whether or not these families of the victims deserve their basic right under the constitution of the u.s. to their day in court, the right to sue the perpetrators. i don't think there should be much dissenting on that issue. if any foreign government that can be shown to have supported a terrorist attack on u.s. soil, american victims ought to have the right to sue that country.
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based on the 28 pages held secret for years, there may be evidence that the country of saudi arabia and their officials may have had some involvement in planning the elements of that attack. i don't know. that's what the courtroom is for. whether this involvement rises to the level to be held accountable at trial is an issue for a jury of americans to decide. it's interesting that saudi arabia objects to this legislation. me thinks they object too much. we should let a jury decide what the damages, whether there should be any at all. the legislation give the victims' families access to the courts, to the rule of law and we as a people should be more concerned about these victims of terror than we are about diplomatic niceities with other countries. the voices cry out for us to do justice and justice has been waiting too long.
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15 years for justice. mr. speaker, justice is what we do in this country and that is what these victims and their families want. and that's just the way it is. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from michigan is recognized. mr. conyers: mr. speaker, i'm pleased now to turn to the gentleman from new york, who has been working on this issue for such a long time, representative nadler, for three minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. nadler: i rise in strong support of the jasta. i'm proud to be the lead democratic sponsor of this bill along side my friend from new york, mr. king and i appreciate his hard work on this legislation. on sunday, we will observe the 15th anniversary of september 11 and thousands of americans that
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were murdered in my district as well as the pentagon and in pennsylvania. jasta would ensure that those responsible for aiding and abetting those attacks are held accountable. unfortunately because of certain court decisions misinterpreting the foreign sovereign immunities act, the 9/11 victims and their families have been able to pursue their claims in court. jasta reinstates what was understood to be the law for 30 years, that foreign states may be brought to justice for aiding and abetting accidents and acts of international terrorism that occur on american soil whether or not the conduct that facilitated the attack occurred in the united states. think of it this way. some courts have held if a foreign government agent hands over a million dollar check to al qaeda in a cafe in new york, that government can be sued in an american court.
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if the same foreign agent funds the same attack by handing over the same check in a restaurant in geef, his government should be immune from liability. that makes no sense and flies in the face of what was settled law. we must correct these court decisions so anyone who facilitates an attack on our people can be brought to justice. this legislation does not prejudge the merits but ensures that the 9/11 families or anyone who makes the same situation can plead their case in court. some critics have argued if we pass it, other nations may retaliate by enacting similar laws that may subject citizens to liability.
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i find this argument unpersuasive. the united states does not depage in international terrorist activity and would not face legal jeopardy if a law like jasta were enacted anywhere else. the sovereign immunities act and its tort exception have been the law for 40 years. in that time, we have not seen the parade of horribles that some critics imagined would happen if this bill were to come law. we cannot allow threats and threaten retaliation to deny victims of terrorist attacks their day in court. this contains a reasonable provision allowing stay of court proceedings that the president is engaging in good faith negotiations to resolve the claim through diplomatic channels. we may not fear retaliation. united states is a major power and can hold our own. jasta is a narrow bill that has been negotiated over the past six years and passed the senate in may and provide clarity to the court and justice to the victims of 9/11 and deserves swift passage today. i urge my colleagues to vote for
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this bill and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from michigan reserves. the gentleman from virginia is recognized. mr. goodlatte: i yield three minutes to the chief sponsor of this legislation, the gentleman from new york, mr. king. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. king: mr. speaker, this is a great day for america. let me at the outset commend chairman goodlatte for always keeping his word and a person we can count on to do what needs to be done and always carried everything out. i would like to thank the speaker and the majority leader and nancy pelosi. and let me thank dan lungren who was the original lead sponsor of this bill and thank the 9/11 families the fact that they have never ever yielded and always
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kept this issue on the front burner at a time when too many americans sought to walk the other way. i thank terry and the great work she's done and her husband tom and father-in-law ernie and mother in law. thank her for the job she did and her husband, she is carrying on his name and i thank you for that. this is essential, it is essential that justice be done and that 9/11 families have the right to bring action in american courts. this is the most basic constitutional right. this is an obligation and an obligation to not allow foreign countries or anyone else to intimidate us. justice must be done and we want to make sure there are no more 9/11s. and they cannot step aside and walk away if something is carried out and make believe is not happening.
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i'm not prejudging the case. the 9/11 families have the right to resolve this resolved in court. and certainly motivated me. i want to thank all the 9/11 families for the work they have done. it's a bipartisan effort and american effort and can be proud as we go into the 15th anniversary on the most horrible day. we will not give up the fight and we will win. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from michigan is recognized. mr. conyers: i yield to the gentlelady from new york, mrs. maloney, three minutes. mrs. maloney: i thank the gentleman for yielding and his hard work on this bill and others and chairman demrat and thank you for your good work and bringing it to the floor and my colleagues from new york, congressmen king and nadler.
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this is an important, important bill. and i rise today, two days before the 15th anniversary of 9/11 to express my strong support for the passage of the justice against sponsors of terrorism act. the attacks of 9/11 were acts of appalling cruelty. they targeted knowingly and specifically innocent americans who just got up and went to work like every other american and were killed on 9/11. though the hijackers of the planes died that day it is indisputeable that people who conspired with them in the planning, preparation, execution and financing of those horrific acts walk the streets freely in foreign capitals today. in fact, they are protected by a peculiar interpretation of international law that shields
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them from justice in u.s. courts for terrorist acts on u.s. soil. this bill, a version of which passed the senate unanimously would correct misinterpretations of previous legislation and lower court decisions and empower survivors and families of the victims of international terrorism to seek a measure of justice through our civil court system. this bill is needed because both the congress and the executive have affirmed that civil litigation against terrorist sponsors including governments can have an important deterrent effect. this bill is also mindful of the concerns some have about its possible effect on soverage immunity. for that reason it is narrowly focused and applies only to attacks committed on u.s. soil that harm u.s. nationals. the attacks of 9/11 were roundly
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condemned by people and governments around the world. so this bill is needed, not just for the families of those who died in new york and at the pentagon and in pennsylvania, it is needed by people around the world. we know we lost roughly 3,000 people on 9/11, but thousands and thousands more have died since the attacks because of the diseases that they now have because of being exposed to the toxins down at ground zero. now they are predicting roughly 15 people a day are concerned because cancer is now in their bodies from the exposure. our people are still suffering. 15 years is a long time to wait. this bill is needed. we need justice. i think it's a strong deterrent. i'm proud of the united states congress and the legislative
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body of this country for standing up and passing this bill. i strongly urge my colleagues to not forget and to support overwhelmingly this bill. thank you. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from michigan reserves. the gentleman from virginia is recognized. mr. goodlatte: at this time, it's my pleasure to yield two minutes to the gentleman from new jersey, mr. lance. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new jersey is recognized. mr. lance: thank you very much, mr. speaker. i rise today in strong support of the justice against foreign terrorists act sponsored by mr. king of new york. as we approach the 15th anniversary of the horrific terrorist attacks of september 11, 2001, it is appropriate that we in congress are finally authorizing the victims from that terrible day have the right to pursue full justice in our courts of law. i'm a lawyer and i have worked with constitutional and statutory issues. this legislation does not convict any one person or any
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one nation. but it gives the loved ones of those who died recourse for full justice and compensation. new jersey lost more than 700 residents in the attacks. 81 of them from communities i represent here in congress. i know some of those names and i know all of those communities. they deserve their day in court and they deserve the assistance of the federal government in being as transparent as possible with the evidence and the intelligence. the truth is the truth and it is time that we all know it. this measure passed the united states senate with unanimous support, yet there are some who believe that the white house may threaten to veto the legislation citing how it may compromise our relationship with certain other nations. this is backward logic. those nations should recognize the fundamental justice in legal remedies against a terrorist
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network that killed more than 3,000 americans. mr. speaker, i urge a yes vote. i am sure this will pass overwhelmingly, perhaps unanimously in a bipartisan fashion and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from virginia reserves. the gentleman from michigan is recognized. mr. conyers: i'm pleased to recognize the gentleman from texas, mr. doggett, for three minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. doggett: thank you. look around the world. in europe, in asia, in the middle east, in africa, wherever you see evidence of radical islam, that extremism can usually be traced to preachers of hate from saudi arabia. the kingdom has blood on its hands. is it the blood of the victims of 9/11? possibly.
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15 of the 19 hijackers were saudis. some saudis were permitted to flee this country without thorough interviews. saudi arabia has long been considered the principal source of funding for al qaeda. senator graham saw a direct line at least between some of the terrorists who carried out the september 11 attacks and the government of saudi arabia. but evaluating all of this evidence, the evidence of both sides is why we have a judicial system in the first place and for our government to obstruct the 9/11 victims, their families from seeking the truth about saudi arabia and its involvement is just flat wrong. some in our government have tried to hide as much as they could as loping as they could. ignoring saudi treachery, we had a president who literally held hands with the crown prince while attacking another country in the biggest foreign policy
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disaster in our nation's history that continues to plague us. the muslims that i know that are my neighbors in texas, and those with whom i meet here in washington, do not deserve blanket blame for themselves or for islam. but neither should there be blanket immunity for those who may have committed wrong. i salute the bipartisan sponsors of this legislation. give these 9/11 families their day in court. and accord the saudis all of the rights in that judicial proceeding they so regularly deny their own citizens. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from michigan reserves. the gentleman from virginia is recognized. mr. goodlatte: mr. speaker, at this time it's my pleasure to yield two minutes to the gentleman from new york, mr. donovan. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york is recognized. mr. donovan: mr. speaker, to begin i'd like to acknowledge
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and thank speaker ryan, chairman goodlatte, and chairman upton. i have been a member of this distinguished institution for only 16 months, and in that time they have done right by the heroes i represent in congress. i thank them and thousands of heroes and their families from my district thank them as well. my good friend, the gentleman from new york, mr. king, has been a fierce advocate for all 9/11 heroes and their families for the last 15 years. and it's an honor to stand by his side. i'd like to read into the record part of a letter written to me last week by lawrie, a widow of firefighter and my good friend joseph from new york city's fire department's rescue 5. it's sunday morning, and the smell of coffee fills the air as they wait to hear the sound of the key in the front door.
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i know that sound of that key will be followed by the words, i'm home. and my heart is excited. no longer do i hear the sound of that key in the door object sunday morning. no longer do i hear the simple words, i'm home. sovereign immunity should not be allowed as a shield of protection for persons or nations that fund terrorists and cause mass murder. jasta must be passed to send a strong message to all nations, if you fund terrorism, there will be accountability. mr. speaker, this bill is about giving victims of terror attacks on united states soil their day in court and the chance to hold everybody accountable, including foreign governments, that may have been involved. 9/11 devastated families in my district and for me their priorities are my priorities.
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i support this bill and ask my colleagues to join me in voting for passage. as my good friend from new jersey, mr. lance, said, the president has threatened to veto this bill. but for those americans who have earned the right for justice, i hope he has the conviction and courage to sign jassta into law. i yield the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from virginia reserves. the gentleman from michigan is recognized. mr. conyers: mr. speaker, i'm pleased now to yield two minutes to the gentleman from new york, mr. israel. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york is recognized. mr. israel: i thank my friend. i thank the distinguished ranking member. mr. speaker, i rise in support of the justice against sponsors of terrorism act. mr. speaker, 15 years ago my congressional district lost 200 men and women. families named downy and murphy and so many other families.
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in the years since those who responded to that act of terror have been getting sicker and sicker and sicker. they all deserve justice, mr. speaker. you get justice on the battlefield. you can get justice in the courtroom. this bill ensures that they have the right to justice in the courtroom. for that simple and very profound reason, i support this bill. i was pleased to co-sponsor the bill with my friend from new york, mr. king, and i urge the president not to veto this bill. i thank my friend from michigan, yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from michigan reserves. the gentleman from virginia is recognized. mr. goodlatte: mr. speaker, at this time it's my pleasure to yield three minutes to the gentleman from new jersey, mr. smith. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new jersey is recognized. mr. smith: thank you, mr. speaker. i want to thank chairman goodlatte for his extraordinary work on this legislation. mr. conyers, of course peter king who has been absolutely
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tenacious picking up the good work that dan lungren, a former member of the committee and attorney general of california had done on this legislation previously. this is a bipartisan piece of legislation and it has to be signed by the president. i certainly hope that the president will sign it into law. this bill holds the promise of some measure of justice for the victims of al qaeda's horrific terrorist attack on the united states 15 years ago this sunday. time has not diminished the suffering of those who have lost loved ones on that day, nor has it brought accountability or closure. this bill aims to change that to some degree by overturning the legal challenges that they have -- that have stood between the victims and the justice they rightly seek from foreign governments and individuals suspected of financing the 9/11 attacks. i worked extensively with the 9/11 survivors, family members, worked with the jersey girls as they became known who pushed so hard for the 9/11 commission in
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a was chaired by my governor, former governor, tom cane, that did joeman's work to get to the bottom of what happened and what we might do to mitigate a crisis going forward. unfortunately there still are gaps and this is one of those gaping holes that needs to be closed. here today are some of those family members, many of them widows, cassie, who works on my staff, who lost her son. mindy, monica, carol are here in the chamber and have pushed so hard for this legislation. not here but here in spirit kristen, patty, sheila, mary and frank, also with us. they lost their son brad. these are people who said, never again needs to mean never again so no other american would suffer what they have endured at the loss of their loved ones. this is why this legislation is
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another measure -- major step forward. you look at the foreign sovereign immunities act, and the impediments it has placed. some of my colleagues have said earlier, we just want in court to be able to get at the truth. who was part of the facilitating, financing of the 9/11 murderers, the terrorist that killed some 3,000 people? 50 of whom, more than 50, who lived in my congressional district. this bill also would amend the anti-terrorism act of 1987. the bill opens -- will open foreign officials to accountability to so-called secondary liability such as aiding and abetting or conspiring with terrorist perpetrators, and these are very commonsense and modest changes to the law that will hopefully get us closer to justice for those who have suffered so much. it's great bill. again chairman goodlatte, thank you, and pete king. pete has been absolutely tenacious and our leadership has heeded those calls, are supportive. i want to thank him for ensuring
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it came up today prior to the 15th anniversary of that infamous event. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from virginia reserves. the gentleman from michigan is recognized. mr. conyers: mr. speaker, i yield myself such time as i may consume. i appreciate the bipartisanship of this bill and the emotional but clear discussion that has gone on in support of it. and because of the importance of enacting legislation of this importance and the recognition of the concerns raised, i know that we can continue to work with the administration to resolve these issues so that this measure can be signed into
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law by the president of the united states. i thank everyone who has participated and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. the gentleman from virginia is recognized. mr. goodlatte: mr. speaker, i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. goodlatte: i want to say first of all thank you very much to the ranking member of the committee, the gentleman from michigan, mr. conyers, for working with us on this legislation. i want to congratulate the chief sponsors of the legislation, particularly congressman king who has, as many have said here, been tenacious in pursuing justice. and i urge all of my colleagues to support this legislation. i yield back the balance of my time. >> sunday march the 15th anniversary of september 11. c-span's live coverage of the days events begins at 7:00 a.m. eastern during washington
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journal you can join the conversation about 9/11. at eight 30, we join president obama live from the white house. from york city for the ceremony at the national september 11 memorial. at 9:30 a.m. eastern, we get to the september 11 ceremony at the pentagon. at 10:00, will be in sync still, pennsylvania for the 9/11 commemoration. we will then return to new york for the remainder of that sermon. 9/11 on anniversary of c-span, the c-span radio app and c-span.org. earlier today, c-span capitol hill producer craig kaplan caught up with house of provisions greater after a republican conference meeting on options to fund the government passed the september 30 deadline.
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>> gives a chance to put together possible a provisions bills to pass. that is the power of the purse. congress deciding how money is spent or not spent. that is the essential power of the purse. if we do a cr until march, two are putting on the power of the purse. -- punting on the power of the purse. >> any chance you might move next week to jam the senate and move expeditiously to maximizing leverage? that decision to the leadership on the house and senate sides. >> would you be in favor of that? what?favor of
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>> maximizing leverage. putting the bill on the floor next week? >> we will see how that works extra. that is for leadership. could it come down as 10672 forced some of the folks who want to go with the longer bill? cr has a funny level consistent with the previous year. >> we will still be at 1067. you anticipate going to a longer bill and going to 1070? >> that's correct. >> do you think the argument will win the day? >> i think so. we had a good reception here today. ,n the idea of a short-term particularly by the people who believe in small military -- strong military. bill in our bill -- cr
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march would do severe damage to our military capabilities. that is perhaps. -- paramount. for that reason, we will see a short term. >> how do you deal with idearats mistrusting this because it might not have all the bells? -- bills? , are theyncerned that going to do all the bills or some of the bills? >> there is a realization within congress that an omnibus is likely out of the question. it is not a popular thing. do a fewis to try to minibuses that are the right size appropriations that we can digest and look at carefully. we will see how that works out.
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it is all a matter of negotiations. expect -- do you feel comfortable if we go to a situation where a large number of conservatives are unwilling to go before this, you comfortable having the past with the support of democrats in a smaller number of republicans? >> i want to see our caucus go 100%. that is likely not going to happen. there will always be somebody. nevertheless, the bottom line is middle a cr until december to give us a chance to negotiate. yearw is this like this when we usually get a few weeks out of the fiscal year. compare this to other years? omnibus is ann
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unpopular work. that is not necessarily the case. the sentiment is to do many buses and do them as quickly as we can. >> caret dress this compare to the challenge you get sometimes every september? >> it is not like previous years. >> consensus on it but no final decision? >> short-term? >> minibuses. >> i think so. lame-duck?s in the >> correct. >> short-term spending bill and minibuses? if the leadership ready to go forward with what you are discussing? >> they have not said that specifically but i think that is what they are saying.
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crafter the election and the would be the entire government on december 9? >> the exact date has not been decided on the house side. otherwise, you are correct. do you prefer the 16th of december? >> i would have. >> is it a concern if it is the ninth? it will get done on the 22nd? willie ruin your christmas plans --will it ruin your christmas plans? [laughter] >> in terms of zika funding, do you expect the house to pass the original $1.1 billion? >> that is under consideration. i would rather not publicly speculate. >> you have a preference?
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