caller: thank you, let's leave aside the fact that hillary has committed perjury by lying to congress and obstructing he bleached her e-mails and destroyed her blackberries with hammers. that is put aside because we all know she is above the law. two points that are pertinent here that she will have trouble with the voters on, number one she is against school choice for poor, inner-city kids. and the disaster of common core. number two, she supports this failed president's sanctuary city policy which lets convicted felons, by the way, thousands of which obama has -- allows them to roam free. host: all right, matthew. i think we hear your point. zoe, would you like to respond? guest: first about the e-mails,

i guess i would ask the caller and other people do they think the fbi is incompetent or corrupt? because if she really committed illegal acts it is a critique of the fbi for not doing their job if the caller really think she did something so illegal. there is a mismatch of their. -- there. guest: they absolutely think the fbi bungled this. guest: right, but there was a critique -- a reluctance to critique law enforcement and the fbi which i think it's interesting. on the question of whether this it is all over at this point, i think it is too soon to say it is all over. i do think he has a point about the down ballot races. the democrats have allowed themselves to lose control and -- in state houses and governors

mansions. that is on the conservatives have worked for a long time to gain power at the state level. i think that is really something to watch this year in the senate races and how things are getting set up for 2020 and redistricting. guest: i notice you didn't mention hillary's school choice stand. it is important important as to why there are so much opposition it seems in the democratic party to be against school choice. this would help young inner-city kids. also, sanctuary cities where we have seen someone killed in a century city by an immigrant who had been deported monde number -- multiple times. that is something trump talk about in his last immigration speech. i think he did kind of well talking about these deaths that have occurred. he wasn't saying at that point he has been talking about deporting everybody.

in that moment he was talking about let's focus first and foremost on the dangerous people. i think that was something good of him to say. i'm not really there with the whole let's deport them all, but definitely speaking to the idea that we are not effectively policing and protecting our people. guest: the century city issue is one that speaks to a broken immigration system is. cities have to craft their own policy because the federal response is so broken. they are trying to keep families together. the few deaths that have occurred are tragic but the are very few and there is little evidence that they are related to the policy of century cities. on the education front, the voucher question, the school choice question is a huge and complicated policy debate to try to put it briefly, the problem the school choice is that not everyone has equal choices.

even if he can them all vouchers, not everyone can drive all the way across town to get to the better school. if you only answer is yes, you now have the privilege to drive your child elsewhere that leaves , a certain number of families usually in the poorest and most , memorable family still stuck in bad schools. unless you focus on strengthening the public education system, you always have a stratified system. guest: why couldn't we do both? focus on school choice and focus on helping everybody else? guest: because what school choice does is it leeches resources from the schools that need it the most. they are in fact contradictory policies. host: let's turn now to fairfield, connecticut. go ahead, phil. caller: good morning, no offense to the ladies on the show, but all through the campaign we have had pundits coming on tv saying trump is this and trump is that. we have had polls come out

claiming one candidate is ahead. during the primaries, the polls wound up being wrong and pundits bond of being wrong. they also marginalized bernie sanders. in all fairness, why should we be paying attention to your -- you ladies? host: let's play little bit of donald trump's recent remarks here in washington yesterday. this was at the value voter summit this is what he said about social conservatives. [video clip] mr. trump: one of the greatest privileges of my journey has been the time i have spent with the evangelical community. and the support they gave me in those primaries was absolutely incredible. [applause] all across the nation. i wonder ifple said donald will get the evangelicals. i got the evangelicals. i will make it up to you to, you watch.

guest: the polls during the primary did show trump ahead. he did end up winning. they didn't quite know if you would when a specific demographic and that have aspect the caller was correct. this is one poll, oand if we do look at the polls right now it is tightening. it is always been kind of close. except for a couple of times. you can choose to believe polls or not. we found in 2012 a lot of polls were wrong. a couple showed romney up and he did show -- wind of losing. the polls haven't been that far off for u.s. presidential elections in recent memory. guest: i don't have too much to add to that. polling is an inexact science. political reporting what people -- where people make generalizations based on interviews and some data, it is

going to be inexact sometimes too. we do our best. host: here is the latest polling average from real clear policy that shows hillary clinton with vote and.6% of the donald trump with 42% of the vote. that leaves hillary clinton with a 2.7% point lead. let's year from tracy in leesburg, virginia on the democratic line. caller: good morning. i want to talk about hillary, and then about polls. i am a hillary supporter, with her all the way. the challenge i think that she has is that she is trying to appear presidential and smart and educated but not appearing to out of control like most people want her to be. as somebody who was a professional woman and was a career woman, it is always this level of where people want you

to ask for they want you to stand and authoritative position. i applaud her for always taking the high road in being a lady in professional. trump, if she is out there spitting and yelling and cussing, the two ladies on this panel would be appalled. i think that this is a double standard. you saw that this week with matt lauer. how he treated her completely differently than the way he cowered with trump. you need to go ahead and look at the character of the person. that is a big part of it. let's talk about polling. the truth is we all know that the poll is based on who answers the phone in the middle of the day. my phone rings up the book. -- hook. i don't pay attention to polls, or all these other networks was that i appreciate the integrity. -- i watch c-span because i appreciate the integrity. when it comes to this election people need to get off of the airways. host: that is tracy from

leesburg, virginia. we hear you this morning. guest: that is a good point, it is usually some landline, not a lot of cell phones. a lot of people just don't answer. they are difficult to get younger voters. again they don't go out to the , polls at the same rate as older's. to an earlier point about the way we want hillary to act versus the way she does, that is really the case for every politician. we are telling trump your being boorish and awful and he doesn't act that way and we don't pay attention to his speeches then he goes back to that. whatever will get in that attention. it is an incentive-based thing. we kind of get that with every politician. guest: kind of, but it is so much clearer with clinton. especially because we can look at her over her whole career,

these tight ropes she had a walk. she was criticized for saying she wasn't going to just sit around baking cookies. i really agree with the caller said in her trying to talk about that divide more in the different directions she is pulled. i think that does resonate with a lot of female voters. host: let's talk about the relationship with the media. that plays into how they present themselves to voters and how they are perceived by voters. donald trump has been -- has had a more have is a real, adversarial relationship with the media. how do you think that has affected his campaign so far? how do you think hillary clinton's reluctance to engage directly with the media has affected her potential candidacy? guest: i think they both had trouble with the media. hillary seem to little odd considering so much of the media

is more on her side. for her to kind of push them away and not want to speak to them when she doesn't get softball questions has always been odd. but trump banning the media doesn't seem to have done anything. he is still getting tons of airtime. he was still in the primary he got $2 billion worth of free airtime. that was with him banning people. it really didn't affect him in his ability to generate headlines so much. the same thing with hillary. the only problem is neither of them wanted some of the headlines a regenerated are trump bands the press. guest: i think trump's relationship with the media is really troubling if it think about him being president. his praise of putin, for example. in russia, where there is a much more close attitude towards press freedoms and internet

freedoms, and the way he treats journalists is -- you can expect the same from a trump administration, the idea of banning certain journalists and wanted to shut down freedom of speech is a very serious policy position. he hasn't stated it as a policy but if you think about it if he continued to act the same way that is very worrisome. on the other hand with clinton, she also has this close attitude -- closed attitude towards the press which would also be an issue she were in office. host: let's turn now to augusta, georgia, on the republican line, go ahead. caller: i wanted to let miss carpenter know i am a retired sergeant major, ok? women and men have not been co-mingled for decades. especially in the combat arms. i want like to know when her candidate in the democratic party is going to explain how

they're going to co-mingle women in tanks and field artillery units and infantry units where you must carry 150 pounds on your back to go of a mountain, -- up a mountain. guest: i don't know we should ask hillary clinton to make policies about women's physical fitness for the military. i am confused about the connection between the sexual assault and women's fitness for a combat role. those are two separate issues. i think with the sexual assault issue regardless of whether , women are integrated in combat, they shouldn't be sexually assaulted. that seems to be clear. host: maurice in georgia democratic line, go ahead. , caller: i have a lot to talk about, number one, to reponds to

the gentleman in augusta, the israelis have integrated women just fine into their military. that is not an issue. my prairie -- primary point. this race is effectively over barring something catastrophic. i think, look at the polls every day. i work as a consultant part-time. this is about the electoral college. if you look at the polls in the various states they come from various sources. this race is over because hillary clinton is leading in more than enough states to get 270 electoral college vote, it is just that simple. you can discourse about polls tightening, this being a horse race to keep people interested. x, y, z. but unless hillary really screws up or something comes out that we have not found out yet up to this point. guest: i agree. the polls we are looking at our national polls. some of the state are pretty close but many seem pretty

decided. it is an electoral college so i completely agree. guest: it is still too early to say that it is over. i really am hesitant to call the race because there is time left. there are international events that could happen. october surprises. it is a question about turnout. it is about who comes out to vote on election day and the periods before. what happens with voter id laws and who gets access to the ballot, those questions we don't have the answer yet. guest: we are seeing more enthusiasm from a certain sect of trump supporters versus not really all that much enthusiasm on hillary's side. host: what do you guys think of -- will happen with voter turnout? will we see lower numbers than we saw in previous presidential elections, or different groups be more represented than they were in previous elections? guest: it is hard to speculate.

i think that there are certain groups of voters who are highly motivated. and a college-educated women are motivated against trump and for hillary clinton. they see her as a role model and sharing some of their concerns. and we have the working-class white men were motivated for trump. latinos were more motivated against trump. you have certain demographic groups are highly motivated. i think there are a larger chunk of people that are not spoken to. the very poor. we hear a lot about the middle class and the white working class. but there are black people in the working-class. there are people not being spoken to. i think the enthusiasm gap could be greater for them. guest: we might have a depressed turnout. guest: maybe from 2012 numbers because these candidates are so historically disliked. every year we say we hate both of our choices ,except maybe

2008 when people liked obama. but this year really seems to be proving that. there are 60%-70% dislike. i think possibly we might have another 1992-1996 where the person who becomes president doesn't get 50% of the vote. gary johnson, whether he can improve on his 2012 numbers, seems almost likely at this point. host: here is an update on some news surrounding the voter id laws. the u.s. appeals court on friday blocked an effort by alabama, georgia, and kansas for voters to furnish proof of citizenship when registering at the polls. which they said disenfranchise certain voters. especially minorities. elsewhere, voters only need to swear that they are citizens in order to cast a ballot.

our next caller is on the democratic line, what is your thought this morning? caller: good morning, ladies. donald trump is a good ol' boy of power and privilege. he should lose because he is a racist. but he won't. he should lose because he is the most incompetent candidate ever to run for president. but he won't. donald trump will lose because he represents instability. after the 2008 crash, america has no appetite for instability. because you don't know what is he is going to do. guest: that is the general fear with trump. he is being called this empty suit. he is coming around to adopting a few more policies.

he has taken some national security policies from the heritage foundation and his list of supreme court justices from the federalist society. he is starting to listen to other groups and kind of get around onto some policies. but, again, obama was also an empty suit back in 2008, but was more firm. i think this remains to be seen. i do agree for the color you don't know much of what trump will do. just as we did not know what obama we do in 2008. host: how'd you guys rate the performance of the candidate at the nbc commander in chief forum held earlier this week? what were your impressions? guest: i thought it was a fairly standard performance for both of them. hillary clinton was calm under pressure and calm under some pretty -- what she probably thought was ridiculous questioning. trump was his usual rambling

nonspecific self. what i want to say about the policy point is it is interesting he is just copping them from standard conservative groups. his ideas are the same conservative ideas we've heard for many years. he has this persona of being new and saying what he means but has old ideas. and he lies a lot. guest: so does hillary when they are standard democratic policies. any candidate will do that. guest: but she is not pretending to be an outsider who radically transform things the way that trump is. guest: right, but do we expect anybody to come in and have these different ideas? everybody will have their party's ideas. guest: it is interesting trump says he will do that. guest: everybody comes in and says we will change things up and washing 10 and stop the status quo. they all say that. guest: sure, but it's an example of people not pushing trump on his claims about himself and

what his presidency would look like. host: is there a broader question about anyone who is in the white house could do if congress is indeed divided once again? we mentioned the impact on the down ballot races. how have republicans in the senate races and congressional races, how ar ethe they -- are they distancing themselves or not from donald trump? and some of his on favorability numbers? guest: some are, some aren't. she ended up losing after she endorsed trump. we don't have a lot of examples of them. we can't say if there is any sort of trump virus out there. but whoever is in the white house, if they don't have complete veto proof control of both houses they really aren't going to be able to maneuver a whole lot. obama was able to in his first two years. many people didn't like what he was doing during that time that is why republicans came in with

the house. they got scott brown in the senate. even if trump wins, he would not have a veto-proof majority. if hillary clinton wins, she will not. i'm not sure how much anyone can do anything. they come in with these policies but without complete support in the house and senate they won't be able to pass them. guest: except in the realm of foreign policy and military action. congress is supposed to weigh in on wars. but as we've seen they haven't , been willing to step in and assert their authority in that area. guest: they tried but obama went ahead and did it without them. guest: they have not been inclined to vote on the authorization of military forces. that of the don't want to be on the record on things like that. the domestic agenda will have a harder time getting through. we tend to forget the executive does have a lot of control about how we wield our influence internationally.

if you're thinking about trump versus hillary, who is going to be the most -- have the most judicious use of those considerable powers? at least the way they are interpreted right now. host: our next caller on the republican line, go ahead. caller: hello? host: you are on the air. caller: ms. carpenter i am one , one of the good ol' boys. did you hear bill clinton the other night spewing hate towards southern people? guest: i did not hear him spitting hate towards southern people. caller: what i am referring to is you said they gloss over like people's lives don't matter. my kate steinle. maybe when it happens to your family -- you democrat. yes, you did. you are like it doesn't matter. basically, like clinton, we want them sanctuary cities shut down because innocent people --

you go there weren't that many that died. one life is enough for me, lady. guest: i do think those lines -- lives are tragic. they do matter. we need to be careful about sorting out what actually caused to such deaths. and what the policies are for. it is also tragic when children who are u.s. citizens lose parents to deportation. i am not trying to weigh lives to say one is more important than the other. compassion doesn't have to be limited to a certain sector of the people that live here in this country. guest: that's my first and foremost the people living consistently departed for violent crimes for the ones killing people like kate and others, maybe them and try not to break up the families. but they are separate. guest: there were mistakes that were made. that man should not have been released.

but the problems -- the failing to the system worked because it was a century city. there were mistakes that were made. to say that it was because of the sanctuary city policy is inaccurate. host: go ahead, fred. caller: good morning, ladies. i want to speak on some and that is very important. to the core of our educational problem, trump talks about getting children in school which is fine. , these are these parents poor communities, head of the get tickets for the poor communities over to the charter school? even in the white, appellation -- appalachian states. that is the core.

equal opportunity in education is the start. but you have to start with the core. zoe: so we carpenter -- carpenter? guest: education is an issue many people care about. that is on the hillary clinton has been running pretty strong on. this issue of how you get more support into the school struggling is a really tricky one. part of it is the way we fund our schools so that areas that have a lower tax base a less money for their schools. it is setting the schools up to be unequal, essentially. schools do more than just provide education. that is what gets lost in this discussion about choice. there are other benefits to that besides just 8:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. education. there are often social service -- services and neighborhood cohesion and things like that. guest: i think he brings up a good point which zoe brought up early which is how do we get

some of the poorest students to the better schools? that is selling politicians that talk about school choice have to address. whether you will want to somehow create more funding or programs or figuring out how to use public transportation if a parent is comfortable sending their child that way. some are, some are not. maybe mobilizing some volunteer groups of parents who do have the time. just trying to come up with ways that we can have school choice but school choice for everybody. host: dan from ohio is our next caller on the republican line, good morning. caller: first of all, both of these women on here, i heard them say about the uneducated white male and the educated women. my wife is educated with a college degree, she is voting

for trump. i have a college degree, i am voting for trump. now, i want to make a point here. you had a black man call up recently just a few minutes ago talking about how trump is racist. it is like if i started calling names to hillary, you'd immediately hang up on me. why did you let this stuff go on for the other candidate? he is not racist. as for as the schools go, my children went to public school. both of them ended up going to college. both got graduate degrees. many other students in that same school are whining right now about they do not get a proper education. maybe if their parents went to

the meetings with the parent-teacher conferences, maybe if they went home and did their homework they would have , got the same education that my kids did in a public school. their parents were there. their parents were there. host: dan in youngstown, ohio. guest: i do not believe i said anything about uneducated white men but i do think it is , important to note that not every educated white woman is for hillary clinton. we talk about maybe a majority are but not everyone in every block. there is hispanic people for trump, blacks for trump. there are educated white women who are not for hillary and might be for trump. when we talk about these blocks, it is a generalization. because the majority of these blocks are. as this caller just demonstrated it is not everybody. , host: that is the danger with this type of political

commentary is that we may -- make generalizations based on data points. for efficiency sake we have to do that and we have to look at trends but there are of course variations and different life experiences that direct their who their preference for candidate is. host: there is an upcoming presidential debate later on this month. how do you think that could change the momentum of the race? with you expect to see from the candidates? host: there is an upcoming -- guest: in 2012, the very first debate was clearly mitt romney's when people were not expecting that. obama came off thinking he had one because the media has always been in his pocket so it did not seem like he needed to do a whole lot, and he turned it back around the next couple of debates and ended up pulling out the election. we have such a low bar for trump that if he just coasts through it is going to look like he has , done very well. whereas hillary clinton, there

is a much higher bar for her to overcome whatever trump says to her. i think it is going to be very difficult in that first debate honestly for hillary to win it. again all trump has to do is , kind of appear reasonable and he will have come out looking like a winner. guest: i think it depends on how the moderators handle it. if it is allowed to be a personality contest, if trump gets question about life experiences have made you fit to be president and open ended things like that, i think he will appear stronger because he has a natural at ease rapport with the cameras, which hillary struggles with. if it is a debate where substantive questions are asked and follow-ups are asked, i think hillary will shine a lot more. because for example if trump says, i have a secret plan to defeat isis, of course he is not going to give us the secret plan but the moderate, the moderator -- the moderator can ask about

the plan. how many pages is it? what are the implications? these things that he says that are hard to fact check because there are such opaque claims, you can question enough to know whether he really has a secret plan. host: charlotte from new orleans, louisiana, on the democrat line. what are your thoughts for the day? caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. following the obama administration the past couple of years, it seems like it has been one nightmare after another. one strange movie. you have james comey going in, doing this investigation, finding all these things that she did wrong and come out to say that they did not find anything. obama is letting all these immigrants come in.

i think hillary clinton is being forced to run for president because she has taken all this money from all these other countries. host: that is charlotte from new ornaments, louisiana. -- orleans, louisiana. let's turn to indianapolis, indiana from brent on the republican line. caller: i appreciate you taking my call. i would just like to say these two young girls that you have on your show, i would like to relay a message to them and express my opinion to them. donald trump -- there may be -- if donald trump is victorious, there is a lot of people who

will not feel that way. but if donald trump is defeated , we will all be defeated. we are all, man, woman, child - host: why will we all be defeated if donald trump were to lose the race? caller: i'm sorry? host: why will we all be defeated if donald trump were to lose the race? caller: because we will not have the inner cities rebuilt. we will not have the inner businesses rejuvenated through lower taxes. host: brent from indiana. guest: i wonder where c-span found these young girls to be on their panel. what the caller seemed to be

saying was that the promise of a trump presidency would be quite hard to realize with his policies, are they going to have a purpose? that is in some ways a weakness but some people do not care about the specifics. they are entranced by the personality of trump. guest: i am not sure that is what he was saying. host: he was saying if trump lost we would lose the lower taxes and the ability for businesses to thrive. if hillary won, then we would not have low taxes. we would not have the ability for businesses to rebound. regardless of what the unemployment number is, which is a lot to do with people dropping out of the workforce, people still do not feel like we have fully recovered from the 2008 recession. i think he may have been speaking more to the ability of businesses to continue trying to get out of that and if hillary were to win, it would be much

more difficult for them to do so. host: rhonda from freehold, new jersey on the democratic line. good morning to you. caller: good morning, america. i hope everybody is doing fine. host: we are ok. caller: i would just like to make a comment about trump's speech on his immigration reform plan. it was the most racist speech i have ever heard in my life. host: why did you feel that way? caller: because it peers into my soul. when he talked about these dreamers not being able to become citizens of the united states when they went to school here and college and fight in our wars, it just broke my heart because this is not who we are as americans. this man terrifies me.

guest: i think the dreamer issue, it is one that i kind of struggle with, with following the laws versus these children. for all the new growing up they were citizens and it does become difficult, but when he think of funding, it is a little bit difficult. i disagree that trump's speech, especially that night was incredibly racist, but she can have her opinion. guest: i think this is one of the central debates we are having right now. the politics of divisiveness versus the politics of inclusion and that is the difference between the two campaigns. is there room enough in this country? can we be creative enough in policymaking and work hard enough to be a country that continues to welcome immigrants as we have since the very beginning of this country? or do we have to drive people out and do we really not have space for certain groups of people? that is one of the big questions before voters right

now. guest: both candidates are definitely alienating people. hillary clinton sits on a debate stage and says her favorite enemy was republicans so is she not going to govern for 50% of the population? she recently called trump supporters basket of deplorables. how is that going to help heal the country? when you are insulting large groups of the population. host: we spent a lot of time this morning talking about hillary clinton and donald trump but another presidential , candidate made some news this week. gary johnson. here is a tweet he sent out after an interview that is gone awry. started my day setting aside any human -- ian? -- ibm am human. how much influence will gary johnson have on this election? could this incident actually

provide a boost to at least his name recognition? guest: i think it provides a boost to his name recognition. in certain states it appears he is pulling some support, i do not know if it is away from trump, but people who would normally vote for the republican candidate. utah is a good example. i think he has something like 20% in utah. that number is not exact but it is a surprisingly large margin of support. i think it varies state-by-state but in areas where traditionally republican voters are off put, he will do better than expected. guest: he could pull some hillary support as well. there is still a lot of bernie sanders supporters that are not happy with that and may not see jill stein as a viable second option. to speak to gary johnson's club, i feel like a whole lot of the electorate probably also did not know much about aleppo so he

might've connected to them. he addressed it. he did not double down, he did not get combative. he said, i made a mistake and that was dumb and now i'm going to read up on it, which is not something we can expect from hillary or trump to admit. hillary continues to eventually say she made a mistake in her e-mail and yet she does not want to answer questions about it. she becomes very combative when asked about it. does anybody really think if trump said something wrong he would say, my bad, i will read up on it. i think gary johnson handled it in a way that was refreshing for presidential candidates. host: shirley is on the republican line. host: surely, shirley is on the

republican line. caller: thank you for taking my call. what i want to talk about is mr. trump. he has so many good points here that i hope that people in the united states wake up before it is too late. there is just too many to talk about. first of all, it is the obamacare and let's talk about that. you might as well say that is done, we are done without. -- with that. then you have got education. he is talking about the voucher system. you have children and they graduate during seventh and 8h grade work, the schools are not up to their potential. kids are graduating and they cannot even make change in a store. that is a shame. with vouchers, if your kids are not doing good in one school you have the option of taking them out of that school and putting them into a school or maybe they will be able to get their education.

host: that is sirley from pennsylvania. let's hear from one more caller and we will have our guests respond. john calling from silver spring, maryland on the democrat line. caller: thank you for taking my call. i just want to say it is really mind-boggling. i am not blaming donald trump for what is going on, i am blaming the media. when you are not asking the candidate direct questions and answer the question that you are asking, it is going to be a mess. i am watching the last debate thursday night and he is asking direct questions. and this man is walking away about the question. the reality is this, donald trump, he lies about when he states he sent investigators to hawaii to find barack obama's birth certificate, which turned out to be a lie. we found out he said something about 9/11, muslims were celebrating in new jersey. we find out that is a lie. he is insulting megyn kelly,

he is insulting the pope. can you imagine? we are talking about hillary clinton's e-mails, but this man day in and day out everything that comes from his mouth is lies. host: that is john from maryland. zoe carpenter, has the media been doing its job so far this campaign season? guest: there are people doing their job and people letting trump slide. it is hard to paint with a broad brush. i will say that trump has gotten a lot of free passes throughout the primaries. all that free coverage and with softball questioning. host: we have time for one last caller. that is lisa from west virginia on the republican line. go ahead. caller: i would first like to say good morning to the strong women panel, instead of girls. what i wanted to say about trump. i have been a republican since i was old enough to vote when i turned 18. this will be the first time that

i vote for a democrat because i cannot bring myself to vote for a pathological liar who might possibly get us in the next war. i have got grandchildren who are coming up and i have got to think about their future. you have to have someone capable in the white house. as far as the e-mails, it is a nonstarter for me because i know what she was doing. she did not want her private life captured on state servers. if i was in her position, i would not have wanted my private life out there either. host: that was lisa from west virginia. guest: it was more than just her private life that she did not want on the servers, but i understand her frustration and i know there's a lot of republicans who do not want to vote for trump for many reasons.

i am not sure whether hillary clinton is not going to get us into any wars. if she tried what she tried on libya and yemen, they were both kind of failures. i'm not sure that she would not, -- she has made the promise not to put boots on the ground and i'm not sure she can actually promise that considering what can happen between now and then. i would not set my hopes on hillary not starting another war. host: thank you guys also much for joining us this morning. washington journal live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. coming up sunday morning we open up the phone lines and taking your calls, text and tweets reflecting on the 15th anniversary of the 9/11 attack. c-span's washington journal, live at 7:00 a.m. eastern sunday morning. join the discussion.