for her attention. compete, herder to has to take on her interest. her interest largely revolve around his strength, which is for. skis.ays tennis, golf and ratherthese things are new to gerald ford but he takes or thanand becomes proficient at each one of them. by that, he is able to catch her eye, and they date that by 19 38 it is presumed they will be married. he brings her back to michigan for a couple of summers. any number of events york.oadway plays in new she goes on modeling sprees. times, she ends up in the

her.ines alongside these are photographs from a shoot where she is on the ski want. in for alongside with her and one of the national magazines. she represents a broadening of dances. -- experiences. sees new york city. she is there to guide him experiences. she is witty. solid plotting, at least in the attitude. broaden theot to

horizons. down to a decision returning to grand rapids to start his life as an attorney or staying in new york where she has her modeling career, that is ways of parting of the comes in. she remains in new york city, he returns to grand rapids. gerald ford passed away december 26, 2006. he was buried on the grounds of the museum january 3, 2007. we were open all night leading internment.y of his over 7000 lined the outside river and into the waiting to pay their

.espects to the president the gravesite rests on the grounds of the museum. tomb.l shaped a site that was selected by ford. and betty -- the architect ask them if they had considered site on the grounds. they have not really considered it. investigate that.

he went to other sites and came back with a report of what others did including eisenhower truman. the decision was made, and we got the grounds for it. and theooks the river city of the youth, and was an easy decision for them to make. construction was made as well. betty ford passed away july 8, 2011. buried next to her husband. july 14, the 90th anniversary of ford earth. a measure of pride and appreciation. respect for ford's and what they mean to grand rapids. attention they brought to and during the entirety of his professional career and her professional activity. they were very much a product of grand rapids. the world saw that in him during his presidency and her with her

battle reaching out to people in her experience with breast cancer and chemical dependency. mounted onto the tomb above their names is a frame -- phrase said livesthat dedicated to god, country, and love. both were deep believers. lives, and that can be seen in another plaque their first from proverbs etched. they were both dedicated to their country, his in public service, hers in service to those who were in need, both need and emotional need. all of that anchored by love. a love for the city. a love that carried with them until the very end.

we are at the gerald ford presidential museum in grand rapids, michigan. we are in the gallery where we ford througherald the educational experience and professional career. .t is not clear even to him at the same time he is applying to become a field agent for the fbi. application into washington for that. he is writing letters trying to out what the status of is.application as he is in grand rapids, he himself caught up in world

affairs. december 1941 when the japanese armed pearl harbor. quickly he shifts his attention. navalhe wants to become a officer. by april, 1942, he has joined the navy. he is sent down to annapolis where he goes through an officer days.ng program for 30 then he is in north carolina as an athletic officer training pilots in physical activity and that veryd with quickly. he is writing letters to people knows. fortunate to find the person who can help him to that end.

he gets assigned to an aircraft carrier that is being built. holds 1500 sailors. 30 planes, and ford is responsible for putting them calisthenics, the f x officer. he also wears a number of hats.ent one is that he is the gunnery officer. he has the responsibility for the gun crews. get to the pacific in late 1943. almost immediately thrown into action. he would be involved in action in the the japanese islands along the philippine coast. then eight battle stars along

with the ship. a few months after he joins the monterey in the pacific, an opportunity arises to become the assistant. he has earned a reputation as a solid officer. he is named the navigator, which to the command bridge. this is the command bridge as deck.ficer of the stands alongside the captain of the ship. in his own words now in the ander of the activity center of the action. he spends as much time in combat pacific with the ship as any other world war ii

presidents we have. earns eight battle stars. they are in an number of including -- including the turkey shoot. during that activity 1944 where her comes very close to losing his .ife .ot to the japanese but ex- the ship is caught up in a washed and is almost overboard. his foot catches a very thin rail as he is racing toward the sea on the deck, and he is able to throw himself onto a catwalk. then gather himself and making his way to the general's .uarter station

to fixp has to return all of the damage. christmas day 1944 he is senthed from the ship and to the states where he becomes an athletic officer training in chicago in the naval training center just north of .hicago it is there that he ends his naval career. navy 1946 and rapids.to grand again, he is involved in a of civic activities. his name is well known. is involved in the republican party. then, having written -- been bitten by the political blog long ago turns his attention to politics as well. he joins a law firm that gives him permission to pursue his political interest.

involves challenging who isting congressman an isolationist also. gerald ford has left his isolationism behind with the war. he has become an international list, and it will be this separatingt is the point. ford not wanting to draw attention to himself but being approaches a number of civic leaders and asks them about it. each one said i am not that.sted in doing if you are interested in doing that, we would probably support you. gathering support. with their support and the rapids of the grand

press, he throws his hat into and beats him in the primary. in grand rapids if you win the republican primary, that is the hardest job. asterisk fortis campaigning for 1948 -- as gerald ford is campaigning for congress in 1948 and he becomes interested. she grew up in an upper home.-class attended central high. years differences between gerald ford and betty blumer. in 1918. she knew gerald ford the high athlete growing up. another not meet one until 1947 when they were party.ced at a she was working as a fashion

designer for a department store, storesthe department downtown grand rapids. she had started there as a model model. -- women would come to have tea and younger women would womenoutfit for the older . she was one of those models. loved to dance. studied modern dance. come back to grand rapids, , and in 1947esman is in the midst of securing a divorce from mr. warren. she is introduced to gerald ford at a party.

after the light -- after the party, he calls her invite her for a drink. about that of angry because she is working on an campaign, so she has homework to do. she says you are an attorney and better than to call me up because i am in the middle of a divorce and that would not look good. -- he says don't worry about it, i know a place out of the way and we can go to have a drink. from that moment they become item.ing of an they are married in october, 1948. it was an announcement put off for a while because he was congress and did not want to get married until october because he wanted to

handle the primary. election and they are off to establish a home in washington. 1950 they have the first child michael. vince he and 1957 susan has arrived. children at home as ford is moving up in leadership ranks. recall when their dad set the briefcase aside and was a dad to them. he took the boys fishing, teaches them how to use a lawnmower and takes family vacations with them. they go on skiing trips back to grand rapids.

they have the grandparents on occasion. many respects it was a middle-class experience, except for their dad buildinggly has responsibilities on capitol hill. the sister old fords desk early.l original.are deskwas the congressional that he used in the grand rapids office. usedthe same he would've in washington, d.c., because made by the same company. ford enters congress 1949 launching upon the new career. not for the became becomency but wanted to the speaker of the house, an

office he never was able to obtain. however, he has a fascinating career. 25 years begin its -- beginning 1949 and postwar america. some of the critical moments he is right there at the cutting-edge. introduced to president truman because he is on the public works committee. he oversees the maintenance of buildings.al one of them is the white house. so congressman ford oversees a lot of the reconstruction of the white house during the truman administration. truman is also trying to build a cold war strategy. ford is involved in that.

the international list congressman from grand rapids on then important seat appropriations committee. legit.sees the army's wars involved in the cold strategy. interests american and particular u.s. army installations around europe and southeast asia. he is engaged in part of the struggle. he is interested and republican policies. you have to find a way to work together on capitol hill. quickly earned a reputation as someone who could work with

.oth sides of the aisle there were times when he challenged the republican leadership and worked with democrats and times when he pulled democrats into what were to furtherissues legislation on the hill. reputation even as he pursued partisan politics, as able to work with others in the democrat party. that came to a head in 1964. following the assassination of president kennedy. president johnson pulled commission to investigate the assassination of would takeennedy who the name of the war in committee name that the the chief justice court.supreme

ofplucked to members congress to sit on the commission. two members of the house of representatives. one was gerald ford. it was largely because he had to reachation conclusions. he and another fellow by the stiles worked together on the book called a of the assassin. he believed firmly in the commission finding that lee

harvey also bold has acted alone. there was no evidence brought to refutemission that would that finding. opened two other evidence that might prove but during his thatime he never saw any show it wassively lee harvey oswald that acted alone in the assassination of president kennedy. is earning aord reputation through hard work, and not a piece of legislation he is known for. he is known for being able to push legislation. being able to craft was the station that is passed. that reputation that moves him forward.

in 1964 ford mount a campaign by very narrow margin and able to defeat him. ford once is to become a majority party. 1966 he makes great strides in doing that. he is never able to gain a majority on capitol hill. the republicans cannot find a majorityild a national position on capitol hill that would secure his ambition to become bigger of a house. other things were to intervene. one of them was the election of nixon.end richard he is selected as his running

maryland,governor of .hyllis agnew reelected in 1972 in a landslide reelection. it barely moves the needle for the republicans on capitol hill. ford decides he will run one more time in 1974. 1972's -- 1970 six going to retire from congress. again, history intervenes. vice asked to step down as president because of malfeasance as governor of maryland. taken bribes, contract issues, obstruction of justice. asngs not related at all watergate, he has to step down. nixon is able to nominate

somebody to replace bureau agnew president,he vice but requires confirmation of the house ofd representatives. ford is a natural election. not nixon's first choice that a solid choice. ford, because of the coalition work and reputation on capitol hill is an easy selection. house tellsof the richard nixon i can get you gerald ford if you want him. ford goes through an extended ,ackground investigation he is selected, there is a whirlwind surrounding richard nixon over watergate. nefarious activities that have

the 1972ce during election and before involving tape, bugging of and a numberfices of other what nixon was involved in was obstructing the investigation into that. even as ford is being investigated for the vice presidency, there are a number on capitol hill who believe they are choosing not the next vice president necessarily, but likely the next president of the united states. so nixon nominates ford to fill the vacancy of the vice presidency. over 400 fbi agencies spread out across the united states to investigate congressman ford, and he passes that investigation, the result of

which are handed to congress. congress then schedules a vote on congressman ford's nomination, and this is the card that speaker of the house carl albert hands to jerry ford noting the house vote. 387 voting in support of his nomination, 35 opposing. there was another vote that was held in the senate, and only three senators voted against his nomination to the vice presidency. congressman ford in december 1973 is sworn in as vice president. this is the bible on which he was sworn in. again, he has it opened to his favorite passage, the passage that he and betty had leaned on many times in their lives, of proverbs 3, 5 through 8 -- trust in the lord with all your

heart and lean not on your understanding. "in all your ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct your path." he had it open to the same passage when he is sworn in months later as president of the united states. he will only be vice president for eight months. he does not know it at the time. what he does know is there is controversy surrounding president nixon. his responsibility is to forward nixon's agenda on capitol hill and promote nixon's plans abroad. he spends the entireity promoting that message in campaigning for next nixon's agenda. so we have covered about four galleries in the museum dealing with his early life, his collegiate career, maybe in congress. the remainder of the museum is

dedicated to his presidency and his post-presidency. i hope the visitors to the museum are able to take away from here what a unique time it was and what a unique man ford was and how he was able to meet the challenge. ford never aspired to become president, yet throughout his life, events and people he encountered prepared him for the burden that he was asked to bear in august 1974, when he did become president, an office he never campaigned for, an office he never aspired to, but one that was essentially handed to him, entrusted to him by those who knew him closest, those on capitol hill, and to be able to appreciate how he rose to handle those responsibilities.

>> for over a hundred years, grand rapids has set the tone grand rapids has really sort of set the tone for what furniture is going to look like and feel like and how it is going to act. although it does not do that for home furnishings anymore, there is a good chance that most people over the course of a given day will see or interact with a piece of furniture made in grand rapids. we are at that grand rapids public museum in the furniture city exhibit. this is the oldest piece of grand rapids furniture in the museum's collection, a windsor chair made by william haldane, best guess is around 1840. the first settlers do not start coming to grand rapids until 1830. william haldane is in that first

really early group when grand rapids was just a tiny village on the banks of the grand river. he is the first guy that starts up a woodworking, or cabinetmaking shop, as they called it. this chair is attributed to him, primitive, made by hand. the spokes on the back were made with a spoke shave, instead of being turned on a lathe. it's made from several different kinds of wood. whatever was on hand. it was probably just a one-off that somebody paid him a buck or two to make a chair. people who arrived in town needed furniture for their house. in and of itself it might not look like any thing special but it is really sort of the beginning of the furniture industry in grand rapids. grand rapids became the furniture city in the 19th century, and there were several different factors that combined to help grand rapids earn that

title. they included having the raw materials needed to make furniture, the great hardwood forests of michigan, the transportation to ship those raw materials and ship the finished goods to market came in the form of the grand river, which runs right through the middle of grand rapids. and finally the labor force. grand rapids had many immigrants from european countries that had the skills to carve wood, operate machinery, and build furniture. so all those three things so all those three things sort of combined in the years following the civil war to make a perfect storm for grand rapids to become the furniture city. there was sort of a whole class of wealthy town leaders who of wealthy town leaders who all decided they wanted to invest in the furniture industry.

these were those who wanted to control the banks, they controlled the capital. they had access to funds to set up a furniture factory. by all working together, this first round of furniture companies was established in the 1860's and 1870's. whiticom, like the matternd guy, nelson and in phoenix. these are some of the earliest furniture companies in grand rapids they got the ball rolling to start that. this is a highly idealized painting of a furniture factory in grand rapids, michigan. it is certainly true that this was one of the biggest furniture manufacturers and they had huge factories on the grand river. there is a bit of exaggeration going on in this piece. it really does convey the sort of scope and scale of a grand rapids furniture factory. usually furniture factories will

be four or even five stories tall with different aspects of the manufacturing process taking place on each level of the factory. a lot of times there would be easy access to railroad, like right here where raw materials could be brought in. almost every furniture factory will have a drying yard where raw materials can be dried to the appropriate level of humidity to be turned into furniture. most furniture factories are designed with a courtyard in the center to allow as much natural light to come into the factories. some of them of course predated electricity. even once electricity came along, it was expensive. you wanted to have as much natural light, especially for people like decorators. it would help with painting and things like that to use natural light over electric light. then of course, you also needed all of your administrative

offices. so the administration building is featured right here, where all of the company's secretaries and salesmen, and the managers would be based out of to run a very large national company. when this painting was made in the 1920's, there were probably around 300 different companies in grand rapids making furniture or somehow supporting that furniture industry, so in this painting you can actually see the grand rapids upholstering company here, which would be an example of companies themselves that did not make furniture themselves but supported the industry. all of these companies would succeed in grand rapids and supply. photographers were a huge what you're taking photographs of furniture to put an in catalogs was a big event in and of itself.

grand rapids put furniture on the map was the world's fair in philadelphia in 1876 was called the centennial exposition, and grand rapids had been making furniture for several decades by that point, but at that world's fair in philadelphia, three different grand rapids companies submitted bedroom suites to a competition, and all three won gold medals, so at this nationwide exhibition where companies nationwide were exhibiting furniture, it was pretty much agreed that grand rapids was the best and really put grand rapids on the map as the furniture capital of the country. we call this the centennial bed, and at that is because it is an example of the type of furniture that won so many awards at the centennial exposition in philadelphia in 1876.

this particular piece is a berke and guy the in grand rapids and is a perfect example of grand rapids furniture. it is a piece that looks like it could be handcarved by a master carver, but in fact, it is actually lots of little pieces that were made using machinery that are all assembled, layer upon layer, to make that finished product that looks so elaborate. the pieces that come off the side are really something you did not see before this time period. they're incredibly impractical and could break off. but they give the piece an extra level of detail that at that time period in the 1870's was really quite popular. another thing they were able to do beautifully ia combine the hardwood walnut with, like, the veneers, so that center section in the headboard there is walnut veneer that they used beautifully, and it really

stands out and makes an interesting look. i do not know this piece would be considered truly practical, but it would have been affordable for a middle-class or upper-middle-class family, and so this is something that would have been seen as a status and symbol in your home, if you had a home and a bedroom that was big enough for a piece like this, it really would mark you as a person of high status, and more importantly, maybe, a person of good taste. the made in grand rapids mark was synonymous with quality, and actually, a lot of places throughout the country, the idea that a piece of furniture was made in grand rapids was much more significant than an individual company that it might have been made by that most people would not have heard of. grand rapids furniture companies pretty quickly realized this and a lot of them banded together into an organization that actually used

as a trademark "made in grand rapids." the heyday is probably in the 1920's. or a lot of things, you know, the 20s were roaring in grand rapids. business was good. there were probably between 300 and 400 different companies that were making furniture in grand rapids or were one of the auxiliary industries that was somehow supporting the furniture industry, and business was really good. there was an event called the furniture markets that took place twice a year in grand rapids where all the companies would release their new lines, and all the buyers from all of the country, from new york, from california, from the south would come to grand rapids for a week and basically have a huge party, check out all of the new lines of furniture, and place their orders. those were really the good times for grand rapids furniture. and then, of course, that all comes to a crashing halt with the great depression in the 1930's. when the stock market crashed in 1929, the depression takes hold in the 1930's, the

furniture-making model that had been established in grand rapids really starts to fall apart. people who were very wealthy and maybe weren't as affected by the depression as much were not the ones who were buying grand rapids furniture. the vast majority of people who were buying grand rapids furniture were middle-class people who all of a sudden found themselves in a lot of financial difficulty during the depression. so of course the orders went way down, and many, many grand rapids furniture companies went out of business. the other big factor that is starting to take place at the same time and is going to continue through the rest of the 20th century is manufacturing shifting from places like grand rapids to the south, especially north carolina, where labor is cheaper. grand rapids no longer had the advantage of raw materials that they once did in the 19th century. the hardwood forests of michigan are gone. the transportation has really changed with trucking and railroads.

no big advantage to being in a place like grand rapids anymore, and so the of cheap labor in the south really undermines the industry ds furniture sort of over the course of the 20th century. o if you look in the back of this display under the large black and white photograph here, you'll see the beautiful frank lloyd wright designed secretary desk. highlight of a the museum's collection. this particular piece was lloyd wright ank and manufactured by the steelcase company here in grand 1930s for a late johnson wax in wisconsin. and there's really a lot going piece. this it's an example of the transition that grand rapids to of had to go through remain relevant in the furniture industry after the great depression. uses new materials, like

tubular steel metal. design of the the piece at the forefront as opposed to manufacturing in bulk. so only maybe 100 of these desks made, and because they frank lloyd by wright, they have some them.esting quirks on one of the obvious ones is this chair for the secretary only has story that nd the goes along with it is because wright wanted the secretaries to at their desks. if you were to lean back in this chair, you would tip over backwards. some of the largest office furniture manufacturers are still located in grand rapids in michigan, so companies like steelcase, herman miller and that are located in this area are still huge employers, very important for are making lots and lots of furniture for schools, and hospitals.

ikewise, what's called the fixed seating industry, there's two companies based out of rapids, the american feeding company and the irwin feeding company that between all make the majority of the fixed seating in the world, for places like stadiums, movie busses and trains. this issar very different type of furniture than what was made 1800s where it was carved wood. his is going to be injection molded plastic, steel, and new materials. hasit's really sort of what evolved, and the common thread hat kind of runs through it is the idea of design. we would want people who come to see this exhibit about furniture first and foremost to understand the of their town, that a lot of these beautiful pieces of furniture that they can see here right here in grand rapids and that it was an important part of the history of the nation as a whole. more important than that, it sort of gives you a sense of

place. what a lot oftand these buildings in grand rapids that are now getting reused as, condos and upscale hops and things like that that originally started out as furniture factories. it really gives you a better understanding of your city and you're seeing every day maybe as you walk around downtown, sort of having a bit context for why things are set up the way they are. i think if people can realize we will have succeeded. >> for those of you that watch real estate programs like house and house d so on garden television network, ypically foreign buyers of homes looking for open concept floor plans, plus stainless appliances and granite

countertops in the kitchen. 1800s, look at the late early 1900s' homes it's inevitable that they don't find concept. and yet here's a home wright has very 1908 that much those characteristics, that fluid feeling of design. we're in southeast grand rapids, meyer may house which is a private residence designed by frank lloyd wright 1908. moste told it is today the comprehensively restored of wright's prairie style homes. rank lloyd wright was a very successful architect in 1908 when meyer may of grand rapids, commissioned him to build a house for himself, his wife and what they hoped would children. meyer may was a local clothing merchant. in store was located downtown grand rapids, and he was very, very successful as a marketer, andas a

was nationally recognized, for being the first display clothing on wooden setting.n a retail he was very progressive. e was very successful financially. and those were two characteristics that were very important if you were going to of frank lloyd wright's. because wright was going to a home very ign different than the neighboring having that progressive nature, having developed the thick skin that adapter has to have as they're doing things that haven't been done previously, consideration.t that may wanted his home built in was a well neighborhood back in 1800s and early 1900s. today it's known as heritage historical district,

it's about a mile wide and about 1200 commercial residential it was the ut premier residential neighborhoods in the late 1800s and early 1900s. o if your business was successful. if you had a successful profession, this is where you wanted to live if you could possibly do so. and most of the architecture was ery traditional northern european architecture. clearly, the meyer may house reflect that architecture. and, as a matter of fact, wright characteristics of other architecture that he felt was inappropriate. the neighbors' response when the home was under construction that? hat is and it's an easy house to kind look at un of as you it, starting with the fact that you went all the way to chicago nd you hired this hot-shot architect and you didn't even know to put the front door on the front?

so wright had a philosophical reason for doing it. it was about privacy. the neighbors didn't understand the concept and the philosophy. strange was a very house. as wright would design the home, he had several principles that and you might begin with the fact that it was a place of tranquility and serenity. it was not a commercial structure where you would hang shingle to encourage people to come and visit you. place that it was a you could retreat to at the end that you couldor invite friends over and ocialize in the serenity and tranquility of your own residence. so in contrast, the neighboring have a large public sidewalk connected to a large private sidewalk that would lead directly to a very obvious front door. right kind of tucked his primary guest entry into a little alcove so that guests they ot on display while

were waiting to be welcomed into the home. in the home, it then opened up a great deal to spacious. one area would flow into the next. area which living really flows very fluidly from space where i was standing just a little earlier. ehind me is the southern exposure and in this instance onlywright has done is not to take advantage of the fact that if the sun is going to shine in grand rapids, it's come from the south. ut there is a tremendous expanse of glass along the southern portion of this area, defying the convention of the period, he wraps his ceiling.into the overhead you'll notice what looked like natural skylights they serve that function also. ut in addition, wright has

placed light bulbs between the exterior glass and the interior glass that you see so that early in the morning, late or overcast udy days, he has this wonderful soft ambient light that's part of this space. it's all very, very fluid from one area to another. rather than originally subdivided floor plate that experience when they entered the home. e're in the dining area, and this to me is one of wright's magical creations also. instance, the architecture that surrounds the actually becomes very recesssive. t's just kind of there, and what to wright is important is the conversation you're enjoying and the food that you're enjoying. and so what he does is delete chandelier that

tends to want to call attention replaces and instead it with lights at the boundaries, four corners of the combines that with high backs on the chairs. so now the focus becomes who am with, and what kind of ood are we experiencing together. and what's most amazing about it good t everyone gets a seat at the table. invited by as been host or hostess to sit there, and if it wasn't the chair that you a view outside, you might have felt that the person to the exterior got a better seat. table gives this you the opportunity to have a outside.he if it happens to be on one side of the table, you have a full the windows that are behind me. if you happen to be sitting on this side of the table, you have

lovely mural of holly hocks, ne of wright's favorite flowers, and the theme on several of his projects. ut it's in the same color palette as the balance of the ome, so it's just very fluidly blended in, brings the outside it, you but adjacent to have sight lines to exterior windows as well. so we're always connected and always like to be connected to the outside, and in wright's designs, that is a very significant feature of this space. level of the house ontains family bedrooms and bathrooms as well as staff bedroom and bathrooms. fully ces where you expect to have privacy. so in those areas, the walls do the and connect with ceiling to provide that level of privacy. but wright wants to make sure doesn't become a box followed by a second box boring box.a third

and so he modulates the volume of this space. into the attic in order to increase the volume, to ncrease the sensation of spaciousness. and as you go down the corridor, reduces he corridor, the ceiling height. almost becomes claustrophobic for guests today. which is wright's intention. to have a different experience. when you get to the end of the corridor, the space opens up different eels very than the one you just exited. in addition to connecting the inside from the outside from standpoint of visual -- thence, it also helps atural light helps expand the feeling of the space. so in the master bedroom, as an out le, he not only pushes the windows, but he adds perpendicular side glass so you 180-degree pannoramic view, nd somebody might look at that

space and say, well, instead of just pushing out the window, why idn't he push out the floor too? the reason he didn't is because itdidn't want people to fill with more stuff which would cause it to look crowded and it would diminish the experience of this expansive panoramic view down the street. if you were to it retain frank ff which lloyd wright as your architect, first of all, you had to have a wonderful revenue stream and it to be continuous. you also had to be progressive, because your house was going to progressive. but the third, you have to be very compliant. willing to say okay, frank, here's my checkbook, and do what you think me.est for so as you look around the first level of the home, for instance, no ll note that there's additive art on the home. well, wright felt that this structure was a piece of art and that anything that mere simply might add would diminish it. however, he was also a bit of a realized that you

express t wish to yourself occasionally so on the second floor and in a limited locations, he designs dimensions and picture frames and says, okay, this is where it go. express yourself but it's got to go in that size opening and hang spot on that wall. the home inved into 1908. and at that time, they didn't have children. an infant daughter in 1914, a son in 1916, and mrs. away in 1917. widow from d, a chicago who had two children from her first marriage. to expand the se home. but the expansion was not designed by frank lloyd wright. additional ut 50% square rootage to the house, living space.

may lived in the home until 1936 away.e passed early 1940s, a buyer acquired the home. had it rezoned to multifamily. a third owner came and lived 1985.945 to 1985, steelcase acquired the specific purpose of restoring it, bringing it back represented in 1909 when the family moved in. the house alk into and say it looks different. and it does. more important thing is to understand how to lives help ent, and how it can support, help reinforce an experience that a family would in this space. it's not a museum. in the traditional sense, in stay on plastic runners and wear footies and

behind velvet ropes. it's a home, and we would hope some ou could with imagination understand and feel how a family could live very comfortable comfortably in an environment that's intended to help shape support and reinforce their experience and their intent. >> we're here in the streets of old grand rapids exhibit, the museum.pids public this exhibit is a recreation of what downtown grand rapids would have looked like in the 1890s. o there are historic businesses, the sort of towns and sights that you would have to see if you were walking around downtown over 100 years ago. exhibit on base this the 1890s because when we first

it was t in 1994, representing a period of time that was 100 years ago. also really e interesting because so much was changing, both in terms of grand and the immense growth that was taking place at that nationwide, the new inventions like electricity were sort of becoming more widespread. the automobile was just about to be invented. of a really t interesting time period that we could base the grand rapids exhibit on. the exhibit begins in the train station, the union depot, which would have been right in the grand rapids and it was where all of the trains arrived, and it makes sense as an entrance point to the exhibit because pretty much anybody who is coming to grand apids in the 1890s would have arrived by train and the train station would have been one of the first things they would have seen. it would have been an incredibly place.huge bustling

there were 10 different railroad lines that served grand rapids of he 1890s with dozens trains arriving and departing every day. arriving in be grand rapids from points all over the country, perhaps people to live here g would mostly be coming from the coast, whether they were yankees who had been in the united states for generations or maybe new immigrants coming from europe. but also, people from all over all over the midwest were coming to grand apids as it's sort of becoming a regional host for west michigan. right in the center of downtown grand rapids. this intersection at the corner really and monroe has always been the heart of grand rapids from the earliest days founded city was first in the 1830s. and what we've done here is recreation of what the square might have looked like in a series of h

different businesses epresenting different architectural styles of the period run by real people from rand rapids, from different ethnic broundz, and showing some of the different industries that town.round the grocery store is run by the so they would , have been polish. run by dutch was immigrants, and the power's here, william powers, one of the founders of grand rapids, who is what we yankee from the old stock american out east who came to lots of ids and set up different businesses in town, including the entertainment house.s of the opera the mural behind me here really of s sort of a good idea what campar square would have been like on an afternoon with people, the street cars are rattling by. 1890s, grand rapids

had electric street cars. paved was one of the few streets in town at that point. nd some of the big commercial buildings right downtown, the wonderly building is shown here six-story building. so this mural is sort of scope of o convey the grand rapids in the 1890s which really is starting to become city with probably close to 80,000 people, and commercial egional economic center for western michigan. rudellstanding inside the drug store, and this particular grandactually is not from rapids. it was originally in st. marie, michigan and was in business right around 1900s through the 1960s. actually family donated the entire drug store and all of its contents to the the fact that

it's not a grand rapids business, it's that one of the recreations e store that we were able to have in the street of old grand rapids, drug store rudell had all of the same furnishings originally built around 1900s. the drug store is kind of in a period, so the would who operated it have been certified pharmacists with some medical knowledge. ut unlike a pharmacy or a drug store today, they are still in a lot of cases compounding their prescriptions, their own medicines right in the store, so they would have had the to make ts they needed a particular medicine and could have put together right in front of the customer. they also have a lot of remedies for various things, different patent all sorts of someone might exec to find, a more modern

cvs today, photos, brushes, all tooth those things would have been available at rudell as well. standing inside the purple department store which was an important fixture for over a century. started in the 1870s more as sort of a general store but transitions the exhibit chronicles is that the transition to more specialty stores. as we 1890s, void herps call exhibitit, is really a so upscale department store that's itself after similar large businesses in bigger cities around the country, where would sell all sorts of clothing, he home, shoes, all kinds

f sort of more upscale department store products. store ng a department signal thatrps is a grand rapids is becoming a large city as opposed to the small town it had been before. the goods that were sold here were really more targeted at class and urban audience, things that are really beyond groceries and maybe in demand were more than sort of an old fashioned general store. in addition this, to imported goods they would get from all over the world frankly to feature some products that were made right here in grand rapids. example of that over here is the bissell carpet display. right around the same time period, right here in grand invented the carpet

sweeper, this wonderful device. any electricity. that you could use to clean your carpet. you can see, they have a whole advertising display of different models of different carpet sweepers that sale. have been for and this bissell by this time an ly is becoming even international company. this invention was so useful and so popular that it was marketed all over the world. still in ell company is business based right here in west michigan. so as we leave the streets of looking rapids, we're at a scene here that's showing lagrave avenue in grand rapids sun is setting on a fall evening, and it's sort of close out the exhibit, and we hope, you know, as people finish walking through they'll kind of think a little bit about all of the immense changes that would taken place in grand rapids

all around the country as the a close.e to you know, you start to get a lot that nges in society people are having to cope with. nd really trying to take a critical look back on the good-old days and thinking of, ou know, what made them the good old days? the automobile hadn't yet been invented. becoming y is just invented. immigrants are coming to the united states from countries all the world. the ethnic make-up of our cities changing. grand rapids is growing tremendously in terms of its industry and economy. period of a lot of change. ending as a hopeful the sun sets and everyone heads home for the evening.

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months. when are they going to arrive? they're here. they're on the roads. really all of us need to focus how do we make sure they're as safe as possible because they offer us tremendous life-saving potential. the communicators tonight at 8:00 eastern on c-span 2. >> our guest this week next, newsmakers with mary kay henry, president of the service employees international union. also deeply involved in politics year.ampaign she joins us from new york. mary kay henry. welcome to c-span to be with you. >> joining us in the question in geman with theben national journal. mary ann leibanne.

miss levine, first question is for you. marianne: my first question to you is, how dear efforts this year compare dear efforts in 2008 and 2012 for president barack obama? mary kay: we have had more engagement for a longer period of time on an issue agenda that is connected to 15 in a union, home care, child care, ending racial injustice and winning citizenship for immigrants. he organizing around those issues a year ago and made a decision to go into the battleground earlier than we have ever done with community partners a latino, african-american, and asian communities. now we are moving our blue states into the battlegrounds through a weekend warrior program. last weekend there were 800 people from new york and philadelphia and i was doorknocking with them. next weekend and i am going to new hampshire in california members are moving into rina -- reno and las vegas. we are at every level of the

organization in a way that we have never done before because working people understand that this election has so much at stake to do for our futures. that is why a think there is a level of energy and commitment and determination to sort of cut through the noise and help people see that secretary clinton is a champion on our issues, and we have got to get out and vote and every vote counts. ben: in terms of your election-year spending, how does it compare to 2012? mary kay: we had 200,000 members who invested $10 a month in the 2012 election, and then the 2014, 2015 election period we got more volunteers contributed to our political action fund so we now have more of a money investment but frankly we think the time, talent, and energy of our leaders and their family, friends, and neighbors are the

difference makers in this election because we know it is trusting relationships that cut through the negativity and help people understand that they have to register and get out and vote in record numbers in this election for candidates up and down the ballot. pedro: the agenda that you laid out that your members are campaigning on, and that the union is in support of is extremely broad. if secretary clinton wins the white house and perhaps if she does, there is a decent chance the democrats take over the senate, i think there were probably only a fairly short legislative window to do big things. we certainly saw that with president barack obama's legislative agenda. given that dynamic, what are some of the things that seiu sees as its highest priority for clinton's initial legislative efforts should she become president? mary kay: we want president clinton and governors and senators and house members and

state legislators that we elect to work together to have government make it possible for more working people to join together in unions, to raise wages, and to make poverty work, work, and the foundation of the american middle class. and that is our number one agenda, the jobs. what is a way for president with the congress can get people back to work, and how can we take service work that is poverty work and make it good work that people can feed their families on? marianne: where do you see the labor movement in four years after a clinton administration versus four years after a trump administration? mary kay: we think a clinton administration is a difference maker and will improve families, strengthen our communities, and it's going to make it possible for immigrants to get on a path to citizenship. we believe that she has made a total commitment on raising wages and making home care and

child care work that is part of the infrastructure of this nation. she stands for the values that matter most to our members to the working families that we have been proud to engage in this election. ben: it would not just be secretary -- ben: it would not just be secretary clinton, it would be who she staffs her cabinet with. certainly we hear elizabeth warren saying all the time that personnel is policy and i wanted to ask, to what extent is seiu involved in these broader efforts to influence the transition team to sort of choose progressive cabinet members and progressive political appointees? has seiu on its own or in collaboration with other organizations given the campaign or transition team lists of people you would like to see appointed or would like to see

voided by them when it comes time to step up? mary kay: our members and working families experiences are a broad and powerful movement and grows and grows. that is why we are proud to join in the fight for 15, we are proud to support the black lives matter movement and proud to support the environmental movement. that is the way in which the choices you just described get informed. how much do people have to respond to the pressure that is being created? we are incredibly confident that secretary clinton is going to make really good choices. if you look at her track record in terms of who she surrounded herself with as a senator from new york and who she surrounded herself with in the state department, and when tiy look at the transition team that she has named, all of those folks represent our vision and values for the kind of american that we all -- america that we all are fighting for.

pedro: is there a strategy within seiu if president trump wins and the response to a trump administration? mary kay: we always do scenario planning for both even as we are doubling down and are confident that we will motivate the vote necessary for secretary clinton to win. of course we have to prepare for not. what i just said about influencing the cabinet and the choices that are going to be made in the first 200 days of the clinton administration is the same preparation we would make on trump. we have to continue to expand and organize our movement. i think we are going to expect to pay more defense, and we have played more defense in michigan, wisconsin, and ohio as those governors have chosen to attack unions to eliminate a force for good in their states.

we have practice in dealing with trump because we have seen it in the states and we believe we will be ready and nothing is going to stand in our way of trying to build a powerful justice movement to win for working families. pedro: my apologies, go ahead. ben: no problem. in terms of the interactions with the transition team, the clinton transition team and the campaign, is seiu providing specific suggestions and names to people in the clinton orbit in terms of people you would like to see or not like to see in any department, the department of labor or elsewhere? mary kay: we are so focused and determined to increase the number of volunteers that are getting out the vote, that is the priority of everybody in our organization right now. the question for every local later in every state is, have i contacted every member at least three times in the last month?

are we asking people to volunteer, and can we provide enough opportunity for people to get on the phone, get on buses, and on doors to make sure we elect secretary clinton and champions up and down the ballot? that is our single minded focus as a union. marianne: you previously mentioned that donald trump has appeal even to members of your on union. how do you approach them when you are talking about the 2016 election, and why do you think he has appeal? mary kay: i want to put it in perspective. 70% of our members of the last three times we have polled are all in for secretary clinton. there is a small percentage of our members who have expressed interest on trump. when we put our issues in front of the members and show the positions of the candidates, and show the behavior, donald trump does not believe in the minimum wage. he has shipped jobs overseas. most of his clothing is made in

china, even as he makes a case about making -- creating more american jobs. so when you look at what he's said and what he's done, we have found that helping members understand issue by issue can even move people that have been pledged to trump. it is relationship in workplaces and having people that i trust tell me, hey, listen, i understand he sounds good but let me break it down for you. we are finding that there is a momentum growing and we are able to help people understand what is their best -- how to vote in their best interest and make sure we can make the change we need for all families in this country. ben: certainly one pocket of trump supporters where he is somewhat competitive are white working-class voters. to what extent would like to see any changes if at all in the way the clinton campaign is appealing to those voters? mary kay: ben, my experience is

when those white working-class voters are in unions or in a community where they get to have a conversation about what is at stake and why i might think that trump is not a good idea, we find that moves that vote. when those communities are isolated and not engaged, they sit in the fear that is being stirred up. when we are able to make a case about the difference secretary clinton and senators and legislative candidates can make to the actual well-being of people's economic security, then we can move that vote. so that is why we are so single-minded and focused about combining our canvas work with our member volunteer work, and expanding our effort in these final four weeks. ben: has secretary clinton done everything she could to help you make that case?

are there any changes in tactics or tone that you would like to see from the campaign or is it doing all that it can at this point? mary kay: she has been so motivational to our members in understanding the work that women do needing to be valued for the first time in this country. 56% of our members are women. many do work that has never been valued. home care and childcare work is not covered by social security or the fair labor standards act and secretary clinton has looked them in the eyes and said, that is wrong and i'm going to do everything to change that. that kind of commitment on issues that are deeply connected to people's lives are the things that are moving our members to the level of activism that we are experiencing across this country. marianne: are there any down ballot races seiu is concerned about? in kentucky and missouri,

it seems an outcome regarding the house and governorship in missouri will affect whether those seats go right to work. has seiu focused on those? mary kay: absolutely we are and that is a great question. i would say that our members are as motivated by school board races, city council, and state legislative races because in illinois, we are trying to make sure that we have a veto proof majority in the house in illinois so we can push back on what the governor has been doing to home care, child care, and public employee work in that state. those elections matter and we can connect the dots for people and then lift them up to why voting for the president also matters to their future. in oregon, we have taxing corporations on the ballot which we want them to pay their fair share.

in california, our entire in agenda in criminal justice reform is on the ballot which is highly motivational to our members. those are just three examples, but in every state, i could give you an example of how ballot initiatives and down ballot races are motivating our races are motivating our members to act. pedro: mary kay henry is our guest on newsmakers this week and joining in the discussion are ben geman of national journal and marianne levine of politico. ben: typically the supreme court and supreme court decisions are relevant to your union and your movement. on thursday, chuck schumer was asked if democrats have control of the senate and clinton wins but republicans are 14 supreme -- forwarding supreme court nominees, is it time to

away the thwarting supreme court nominees. would you like to see the senate democrat fist they are in power do away with that in order to a replacement for scalia and others can indeed be democrats? mary kay: we want government to work and we want the senate to do its job. we have been campaigning on behalf of the president nominee since june, or i cannot even remember now when he first nominated merritt for the supreme court. their question about the specific way the senate gets its job done, i trust senator schumer's thinking about the best mechanism. the most important thing from our perspective is that we fill the 90 vacancies that the republicans have blocked under best mechanism. president obama for federal judgeships all across this country, in addition to the supreme court.

i can tell you that i was in miami doing clipboarding with several of our nurse members and they turned out for the first time to volunteer in the and their deep fear about the contrast in the choices between president clinton and donald trump. i think you are putting your finger on something that is also connecting with people in motivating the vote at this moment. ben: you mentioned justice garland. if indeed the republicans refuse to confirm him for the remainder of this year and secretary clinton wins, would you like to see her renominate justice garland or would you rather see a more leftward leaning pick? mary kay: the way that we have engaged in this kind of questions is to understand, what is the way to get the job done? we evaluate with the environmental community, the reproductive justice community,

the civil rights community, all of the interests in the progressive movement and thinking about, how do we have a united show of force behind a choice that we can go with to hopefully elect president clinton with. i do not have an opinion on that specific question, i'm just describing how seiu members like to engage across the progressive movement and back a play together. we are up against forces you have blocked president obama's nominee, and we need a united front to push through the next congress and get the job done. marianne: we have seen a lot of partnership between seiu, effect for 15 movement, and black lives matter among other candidacy -- campaigns. at the same time we are seeing union membership fall. how do you see the partnership

with these campaigns helping seiu membership? mary kay: our motivation is to create a more just society, and the integration of those movements is because the leaders in the fight for 15 movement are also leaders in their communities for black lives matter or for immigrant justice or in flint now for environmental justice. those intersections are what fuel our movement and our imagination is that that will become a powerful enough force to burst the next 21st century union. we hope that the fast food workers will be recognized by the three major fast food companies, and sit down at a national bargaining table like they do around the world and create a national collective agreement that makes fast food work good work that you can support yourself on, maybe go to school and do some other job like many of the fast food workers want the ability and

choices to do. we would like home care workers to have a national organization that is a combination of state and federal agreements, the same for child care workers. the airport workers in new york just formed a union and there is a million workers that used to have middle-class standing that are now in poverty. we would like all those airport workers to be able to form unions. our imagination is boundless as of the degree of the inequality, we think requires dramatic and bold solutions. that is why we are proud to support all the elected officials that have pledged us that they will help build the most inclusive american middle class then they have ever done, and we need the workers to bargain. ben: you are discussing a large amount of coalition politics

work that seiu does. one of the interesting areas of collaboration has been around criminal justice reform. you had a left-right coalition together on that and criminal justice reform is something that house speaker paul ryan speaks about as he tries to rebrand the gop with a softer edge and greater focus on that topic and poverty. my question is, is that something that you see as an area of potential collaboration with the house? speaking of the house, do you think there is any chance to retake the house or is the best scenario a democratic white house and senate but the house is pretty much out of reach? mary kay: we think we are going to make progress in the house, and in the states where there is a president, senate, house, we are as concerned about gaining ground. we know there is somewhere

between 20 and 30 seats depending on how we perform in the next four weeks, could be added to the champions for change and democrats in the house. you are right, that calculus in terms of what ends up happening i think is a predictor in how bold we can be in terms of a sweeping legislative change, but we also know that every government official has a bully pulpit and has executive action they can take, at least at the president and governor torilla level. gubernatorial level. we want to encourage them to make change when congress is not the vehicle, and we are not going to stop until we change congress and are able to do big things like 11 million immigrants having a path to citizenship, or getting clean and air, clean water movement that him that

the environmental committee has and been fighting for, and restoring the voting rights act, and doing things like of it happening in the states on criminal justice and being able to do a big push at the congressional level. marianne: speaking of executive actions, are there any executive actions that you wish the obama administration had done in the last eight years? what labor department regulations do you think are left for a clinton or trumpet administration to pursue? mary kay: i think president obama has demonstrated in the second term, very ambitious, imaginative, and creative views of executive action. we have been set back because of the court, being taken to court and having it blocked. we are very grateful that the president used executive action to raise the minimum wage for federally contracted workers, to create overtime for the first

time in the nation's history for home care workers. we worked hard with them on the fair pay and safe workplaces act because we think the one in for jobs that are impacted by federal contacts -- contracts could be a huge lever to raves standards for working people all across the economy -- raise standards for working people all across the economy. we are concerned about the horrible impact a trump presidency would have on the forward movement of those executive actions, and we know that secretary clinton has committed to stand by those executive actions and keep moving them forward. i would say to this question of, do we wish he had done other things, i think we are quite proud about the way in which he used executive authority. we will work together with president clinton to imagine

other ways in which we can improve the lives of working people and address these terrible inequalities on race and gender in this country by whatever means necessary. ben: what are a couple examples -- i take your point that you were look to create imaginative ways going forward on executive action but seiu has a robust policy shop. are there specific instances of an executive action or order on some of the topics that we have been discussing that seiu, any discrete specific ones you can point to that you can tell us you would like president clinton to put forward if she is elected? mary kay: i am sure that people in our union have been working on that. we are in a whole conversation with the immigration movement

about how to prepare for the first 100 days. i'm going to guess there are a lot of creative ideas. i do not have a list of them in my mind. i do know that the civil rights community because of what you referenced earlier, has a lot of creative ideas on criminal justice and ways in which we can think about helping get training and work done with law enforcement in a way that rings out the best in everybody. secretary clinton, i think has been very articulate and the way she wants to add money to deal with bias in the law enforcement. i think there is lots of good work happening, thanks to the movement building that is going on in every sector of the country, that will be a great way to think about actions that can be taken. pedro: mary kay henry, 30 seconds, to the idea of the condition of the senate and the turnover are there particular races you are paying attention to? mary kay: in the senate, illinois we are all in. we have worked hard with katie

mcginty. we are concerned about the nevada race. we have done a lot in las vegas with community partners so we are deeply concerned and all in to make sure we do retake the senate. pedro: mary kay henry our guest on newsmakers, president of the seiu. thank you for your time. mary kay: thank you. pedro: one of the things that struck me to both of you is the aggressive nature this labor union is taking as to the past. why do you think that is? ben: i think they see the stakes as being very high. i think they also see a lot of potential. the supreme court is something that looms large that just for the labor movement. if hillary clinton is elected, there is a possibility of multiple supreme court picks and it does not get any more

important than that. the level of activity we are seeing is commensurate. pedro: one of the things i noticed not only on the presidential side that the senate and house, what do you think if either president wins and if hillary clinton wins, and the house and republic it stay in republican hands? marianne: i think if the house stays in republican control and if the democrats, even if the democrats do take the senate, i think there is still going to be a stalling in terms of the legislation that they likely would see regarding comprehensive immigration reform, an increase in the federal matter -- minimum wage. as a democratic senate there is likelihood to see compromise but i think it is going to be a challenge in terms of seeing the lot of policies they would like to see implemented. ben: i completely agree. i think it was pretty clear from

our interview that she sees some opportunity, but i think it is probably fair to say limited opportunity on some of these legislative initiatives. it is clear that she would want and the labor movement would want hillary clinton to pick up where president obama has left off in terms of executive actions. one thing i thought was striking is seiu has been an aggressive union in terms of organizing and advocacy. i think we were trying to ask hillary clinton about things she would like to be done and she was answering in broader terms in terms of overall policy and political goals. i think what we are seeing is an effort to not see clinton down as well as make sure that they know the clinton orbit feels pressure on these broader policy goals. pedro: what do you think about the strength of the labor union in this election cycle, how much and violence do they have? marianne: i think they are

having some concern and we are seeing a significant mobilization effort. the american federation of teachers, they have formed a super pac this year to really fight trump and make sure that laborers' priorities are not only prioritized in this election cycle but also on the election so i think we are seeing a significant mobilization. i think it is a significant motivation factor. pedro: our guest interviewing mary kay henry is marianne levine and ben geman. to both of you, thanks for being on newsmakers. ben: thanks for having us. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]

>> coming up live in about 45 minutes, the first of two white house events on the c-span networks. donald trump in pueblo, colorado, live here on c-span starting at five :00 eastern. just a bit later on, hillary clinton will be in akron, ohio this afternoon for a rally there. two.an see that on c-span three challengers fine to become the next governor of indiana. democrat john greg and the current lieutenant governor, eric polk, and wrecks bell. that is live tonight on c-span, 7:00 eastern. >> ahead of tuesday possible presidential debate, we will take a look back at the candidates. senator tim kaine and indiana governor mike pence, using the c-span video library.

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listen at 8 p.m. eastern on the c-span radio app. >> this is no longer science fiction. >> we are looking at self driving cars and tonight we will talk with mark rose kind, head of the national highway traffic administration. >> the question, not even a year were going tothey arrive. they are here, they are on the roads. all that we need to focus on is as safe as possible as they offer tremendous life-saving opportunities. >> watch tonight on c-span two on "the communicators." joining us from capitol hill with the u.s. supreme court in the backdrop is lawrence

hurley, who covers the court for thomson reuters. good monday morning. thank you for being with us. guest: good morning. let me begin with a couple of points you have been making on the supreme court. you have to go back to 1864, when the court was last not fully staffed. how does that impact the fall term? , that's 1864cify that we went into election day with out nine justices on the court. this is uncharted waters for the current members of the court. they never have experienced anything like this. going into the term, it means they have an incentive not to take any issues on which they ,hink they could split 4-4 because they are one just a short. -- one justice short. it's unclear yet when the next justice will be appointed. there is a lot of uncertainty. they are not really sure how

this is going to play out, because they don't know when the next justice will get on the court. host: this is your story from , the court has yet to take up any cases of politically sensitive social issues in its new term. instead, as you point out, showing a keen interest in more technical cases of importance to businesses such as disputes over intellectual property. case orssue of ip, what cases will the courts take up? betweenhe patent case sam's on an apple, -- samsung and apple, fighting over the design of the iphone. case -- patentid ip case is what i took up last week, the trademark case involving an asian-american rock thatcalled the slant

wanted to trademark their name, despite it has a history as a racial slur. it's being closely watched, because it can affect a similar case involving the washington redskins football team that has -- the u.s. hadn't and trademark office wants to cancel because we historical connotations of the redskins word. the washington redskins has been a big story in washington, d.c. what could the court decided what impact could it have on the team? guest: if they rule in favor of this rock band called the slant, it would effectively strike down a law that prevents people from trademarking terms that are deemed to be disparaging. as a free speech issue. wins this case are right, that would mean the redskins also win their case. lose, thereif they

are still ways in which the redskins could win their case. there's also a case involving a woman who posted her toddler dancing to the music of prince. you are calling it a quirky copyright law case. guest: the court hasn't decided whether they're going to hear it , but they will in the next couple of months. that one comes out of youtube, people posting videos on youtube of their kids dancing to music and so on, which a lot of people have done. when the record company told this woman to take down the video because she was ,sing some of a prince song whether they misled her, because they said she had to take it down. when in fact, under copyright law, you are allowed to use snippets of certain materials if it's not key to what the video is. host: a number of states having early voting, and one of the

issues the court decided not to take up, resulting in a loss for ohio democrats. ohio is a key battleground state for democratic republicans. hillary clinton will be there later today. what did the court decide not to do? the court had three emergency actions in the last month or so involving the election. one from ohio, one from michigan, one from north carolina. theme three, the common has been the court wanted to stay out of it. both democrats and republicans have benefited in different states from those decisions. what that shows is with the court split 4-4, with a divisive issue like election voting rights, they are keen to stay out of those. host: the me ask you about the nomination of merrick garland. let me share with you what the "washington post," wrote about merrick garland and the politics behind that. as another gop operative put it, merrick garland did nothing to

inspire the left-wing of the democratic party, which was already vocal and restless. well mitch mcconnell picked a fight and united his base, it's increasingly rare in washington, d.c. that the gop grassroots is united with party leaders. but this did it. talk about the garlic -- the garland nomination and why the president chose him. and what potentially might happen after the election before the next president is sworn in. guest: it seemed like when judge garland was nominated, there was a needle that the admin station could thread that would have got him on the court -- that the administration could thread that would have got him on the court. if they pick someone on controversial and moderate, that would put pressure on republicans to let him through. mcconnell, senator within hours of justice scalia's ,eath in february said no way

we are not going to appoint anyone this year because it is election year. the next president will get to choose. and nothing the democrats have been able to do has dislodged that. most of the republicans have stayed behind that message as well. it's just been hard going for them to break through. at this point, it hasn't really worked in the short term. in the long-term, with the election to come, it bears people watching to say if hillary clinton wins the election and the democrats gain some seats in the senate, that might put pressure on republicans to move in the lame-duck session after the election. that could be merrick garland's last chance to get on. scenario, if the republicans don't move ahead with the nomination, hillary clinton is free when she takes whoever sheck wants. she doesn't have to stick with

merrick garland. she hasn't pledged that she would. his chances my go -- might go once the new president takes office. host: levy take this one step further. saying when republicans wake up and realize hillary will pick the next justice, will they try and push through garland? clock?s run out the if republicans and say we're going to move on america garland -- on the merrick garland nomination before the next , whatent is sworn in would mitch mcconnell have to say to his report and colleagues? speculating, it may be the pressure comes more from the republican members rather than from mcconnell itself -- himself. there is already been some republican senators that indicated they would be willing to do something in the lame-duck session after the election if hillary clinton wins, because they all know who merrick

garland is. he is known as not being a particularly left-wing judge. he is very moderate and well thought of. if they were to get him on the , other conservatives might think that was a better option than having hillary clinton come in and potentially get to pick someone who is more liberal. host: one other case you have been writing about, the supreme court has reasons to duck the transgender rights fight. explain what this is about. guest: this is a case out of virginia, a national issue now. student who school was born a girl, but is now living as a boy and was to use the boys restroom -- wants to use the boys restroom. ,n appeals court in virginia including some obama appointees, ruled in his favor. it was a landmark decision for transgender rights.

other cases like this coming up around the country, too. there's an appeal pending at the supreme court, and the question is will the supreme court in when they wade are sort of justice. they may want to skip it at this point, because they have other cases they can take up when i have another justice, and this case only affects this one student in virginia. journal,"l street writing about the vacancy and what potentially a hillary clinton presidency could mean. by hillary clinton would set the stage for a liberal majority of the supreme court, something not seen since the retirement of chief justice earl warren in 1959. it led to a number of appointees by then-president richard nixon. despite that, there have been some liberal supreme court decisions in that time. especially recently, justice anthony kennedy, though he is a

conservative, has sided with liberals on big cases such as gay marriage and abortion last year or early this year. in general terms, we have had a conservative leaning court. if hillary clinton wins the election, there's a prospect for her not just to appoint scalia's replacement, but one or two other justices, as three of the justices on the court now are 78 years old or older. host: our guest is lawrence hurley, joining us on capitol hill. the supreme court is directly behind him. you can follow him online at reuters.com and he tweets. we are talking about the start of the new term of the u.s. supreme court. is joining us on the independent line from boca raton, florida. caller: actually, you stole my thunder a bit. what hasn't been mentioned is the congress, -- the senate

under mitch mcconnell has done something here that is on the face of it, unconstitutional. there is nothing in the constitution that suggests that a president cannot nominate a supreme court justice in his last year of office. and i think it is important to mention that senator

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