tv Key Capitol Hill Hearings CSPAN October 3, 2016 4:34pm-6:35pm EDT
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than almost anyone. i am one that can truly fix them. that is what i commit to do. with fairness. because they spent our tax dollars so unfairly and unwisely. remember that. as a businessman and real estate developer, i have legally used the tax lost my benefit. and to the benefit of my company. i have brilliantly used those laws. on the campaign trail i have a fiduciary responsibility to pay no more taxes than read -- then is legally required.
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put another way, to pay as little tax is legally possible. tell you, i hate the way they spend our tax dollars. [cheers and applause] believe me, that makes a difference. as a major real estate developer in this country and throughout the world i face and arms tech. city taxes, sales taxes. employee taxes. minimize thee to overall possible. properties,zing yielding tremendous growth in the communities and always help. we have to help our small businesses. that's what it's all about.
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the news media's nose asked with an elected tax filing from the 1990's at the end of one of the most brutal economic downturns in our country's history. 90's, remember the early other than 1928i would say there was nothing close. the conditions facing real estate developers back then were almost as bad as the great depression. a booming economy in the era of ronald reagan change your medically. bank failures, collapse, the absolute total disruption of the savings and loan industry. many business people, including many of my competitors and some of my friends were not able to survive.
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opportunities were lost in lives were destroyed. some of the biggest and strongest people and companies went absolutely bankrupt, which i never did, by the way. [cheers and applause] today my company is bigger, stronger, far greater access and it has ever had before. more premium properties. we have never done better, it's the strongest we have ever been. over the years we have employed thousands and thousands of people, thing that frankly makes me the most happy. that did not happen by chance or luck. it happened through talent. i was able to use the tax laws
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of this country and my business account to dig out of the real estate mess. you would call it a depression. when few others were able to do what i did. thank you, you are, too. they were amazing times. in those most difficult times, when someone had their backs to withinl, i reached myself to my family, employees, and it existed. those who work within government and know nothing about business fail to understand the skill, dedication, and sheer grit it takes for a company to climb out of the economic depression the scale of which we had in the early 1990's. [applause]
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people like my opponent, hillary clinton, who is only -- [booing] [crowd chanting] [chanting "lock her up "] mr. trump: folks, let's win on november 8. anyway, her only method of making money is by selling government favors and by granting access to special interests. she know nothing about how businesses succeed and grow. hillary has never created a single job in her entire life.
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by the way, we have somebody who has. where is bernie marcus? the founder of home depot. go to home depot. he only created hundreds of thousands. how many jobs as home depot produced now, bernie? millions? millions? that's a lot of jobs area somebody who put a lot of people to work. home depot is a terrific country. -- company. thank you for being here, bernie. appreciate it. they haven't had a single dollar of value, people like hillary, for the american economy. she hasn't made an honest dollar in her entire life. all that she does is take from you, take from the country.
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andspecial interests foreign actors and astronomical amounts that you have never seen before. corruption of the highest order. while i made my money as a very successful private business person following the law, all the way hillary clinton made her money as a corrupt public andcial, breaking the law putting her government office up for sale. and now she's running for president. by her own account, hillary clinton left the white house, dead broke. dead broke. [booing] and then -- remember? she became a senator for new york? remember the jobs she was going to produce?
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she never produce them. then she became secretary of state. and now she and her husband have made over $200 million, without building a country -- company or creating a single thing of value. [booing] during the early 90's, as companies were collapsing all over the place, left and right, the media and powers that the said -- donald trump, he could never make it back. i remember the stories. we were all -- how many people were in trouble back then? everyone was in trouble. ofy said i had billions dollars in borrowing, which was true, and hundreds of millions in personal guarantees, which was true. and no pathway out. which is false. that was a bad time.
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it was an ugly time. a lot of people, you will never hear from them again. i never had any doubts whatsoever. most importantly, i never, ever give up or even thought about giving up. that is because i knew in my heart that when the chips are down, that's when i perform the very best. that is always when i perform the best. i make my best decisions. do you remember? bernie saying that hillary clinton has bad judgment. my single best asset is temperament. if you didn't have the right temperament, you could never have escaped that financial jungle, that's for sure. greatest asset is my temperament. and i have a temperament for
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winning. you have to win. the temperament of all of us is winning. [cheers and applause] and when people make the mistake of underestimating me, that is for they are really in their biggest surprise. same thing for a lot of the people in this room. remember the primary? trump is running, starve the of "thece -- "star apprentice -- star of "the apprentice," he's not really .unning now look at this movement. [applause] mr. trump: what we have done is amazing. now we have one person left. crooked hillary. we have to beat her. .ou have to get out, make calls jokingly i like to say that -- if you are sick, if you get the
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absolute worst prognosis from the doctor and it looks like maybe you aren't even going to make it, it doesn't make a dam bit of difference. get up and vote. [cheers and applause] the reason i never felt endangered -- i never really did -- i never did during the real estate downturn -- i guess i didn't read the stories. i knew myself. i knew my business. i knew the financial system and the tax code. most importantly, i knew how to fight. that's what you had to do. that is what i am, a fighter. i'm going to fight for you. i'm not fighting for me anymore. i'm fighting for you. with my knowledge i knew that i would make a come back without
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question. i never had a doubt in my mind. i don't even think of it as a come back. we had good times, tough times, we just knew that things were going to be fine. that is why am here today. thank you. [indiscriminate yelling] mr. trump: and i'm praying for you and i love you. great people. now i get the whole hero thing. now i get it. [cheers and applause] but that is why i have left private business. you never would have told me i would be going -- doing this. i wouldn't have commenced with those interviews. i would have said things slightly differently. and i would not have had as good a time in life.
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and would have made my life as a politician of it easier. know, these people, holier than thou, they never said anything about the breakfast -- around the breakfast table. they never do. bill and hillary never say anything like this. can you imagine what they say? well, they talked about deplorables and irredeemable's. the floor bull, irredeemable. i think that irredeemable might be worse. everyone talks about deplorable? these are the greatest people in this room. we have seen hundreds of thousands of people. these are the greatest people. importantly, we are going to make a great for all the people. we are to make a great for all the people.
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i said i didn't know they were here. when they were playing with the mic, back and forth, i thought that was the commission. , let's seeission what happens on sunday again. [cheers and applause] my biggest opponent was the microphone. and now our country is in need of a major comeback. now just about more than ever. we owe $20 trillion in debt, doubled during obama's period as president. [booing] partrump: but that's only of the story. we have $100 trillion in unfunded liability. the budget is out of control with annual deficits. in addition because of the incompetence of our leaders we
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run massive trade deficits on an annual basis. we now have almost $800 billion per year in trade deficits. you say to yourself -- who are these people? our country is broke. it's broke. the worst part is that with all the money that we spend so foolishly all over the world, we protect other countries with tremendous losses. and we want to protect countries. but they should pay us the proper amount. [cheers and applause] but think of it, with all of the 20ey that we spend, and with debt,s -- $20 trillion in all the talk and the political nonsense, we have a decaying infrastructure, famine schools
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and rising crime. we have a depleted military of great people. airplanes that are so old, they go to airplane graveyards for part. they go to museums because they don't make the parts anymore. we have an open border and an economy that cannot create full-time, high-paying jobs. our great jobs have been taken. we will build a wall. don't worry. [yelling] mr. trump: we're going to build a wall. we are going to build a wall. don't worry. we are going to build a wall. mexico is going to pay for the wall. they don't know it yet. but they will. [cheers and applause] you have a tremendous problem right here, but we will have drugs stop pouring into our country, destroying our youth, poisoning our people. poisoning our people. we are a divided nation.
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each week it seems that we are getting more and more divided. with race riots on the streets on a monthly basis. it's happening more and more. charlotte, at great city where i have property, a great city, different places around the louis, ferguson, baltimore, chicago. in chicago thousands of shootings, thousands since january. 4000 shootings -- think of it -- since january. this was not the america that was handed down to us or the one we want to leave to our children. [cheers and applause] it is certainly not the america that we want to pass down to our grandchildren. that we is the america will have if we don't turn things around starting
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immediately. we don't have much time, folks. we don't have much time. and if we don't win this election, it will never happen again. this opportunity is never going to happen again. what i say is not lost on the american people. 70% of you believe the country is headed in the wrong direction. and i'm trying to figure out who the other 30% are. we cannot have another four years of barack obama and hillary clinton. she will be worse. we can turn our country around. but if we don't they could change in leadership right now, it will never happen. the failed political establishment must go. it must go for the sake of your country, your future, and those that you love the most.
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[cheers and applause] 1990's they splash the front pages with stories about how donald trump -- me, they said i was finished. everybody said that i was done. there were front-page articles in "the wall street journal," and "the new york times," among many others. they were thrilled and delighted -- you believe these people? they're going crazy. [cheers and applause] mr. trump: they say 1990's, saying here i am -- can i ever get rid of this guy? they were thrilled to write the stories. they said i was finished. the only person that didn't think i was in trouble was a guy named donald j. trump. i didn't think it was in trouble.
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i sort of didn't know what they were talking about. does that make sense? power of positive thinking, but i didn't know what they were talking about. as i grew, i borrowed money to grow the company. .ig money from big banks when the bottom fell out of the real estate market, i have this large amount of debt that stay the same and the value of assets plummeted. i was young and you have to learn. i learned. i work really hard. i knew how to use the tax code to rebuild my company when others didn't. understood the banks, the bankers, and how to deal with them. my understanding of the tax code give me a tremendous advantage over those who didn't have a clue about it, including many of my competitors, who lost everything they had never to be heard from again. some people that i knew were good, doing a good job. never ever to be heard from again.
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now they are gone, and i'm here, ready to turn things around for our country. [cheers and applause] i'm going to do it. [cheers and applause] was aump: the early 90's very tough time for the world. but in tough times you need very tough and very smart people. these are tough times for america. you, we need tough and smart leadership. you what youo tell want to hear, but people who tell you what you need to hear. we must never allow corrupt politicians like the clinton's ever to get back into the white house again.
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[cheers and applause] these tough times were when i performed my best. the economy, the banks, they were collapsing. enjoyed waking up every day to go to battle. survive until 95 and you will be ok. i get up to take on the financial establishment on behalf of my company, my employees, my family, myself, and win. that's what we did. i won, i won, and i kept on winning. until this day. all you have to do is ask all the evil week competed against and ask them -- how did trump to? they will say, he won. [cheers and applause]
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but that's the thinking that we need for our country. tradee are negotiating deals, military deals, economic deals on the behalf of the american people. we need great people negotiating our deals for us. we have the greatest negotiators and greatest is nice people in the world and we use political hacks to negotiate our deals. not anymore, we're not. not anymore. put me into the boardroom as your representatives and i promise i will deliver. hillary clinton is in it only for herself, her daughters, enter special interests. i'm providing for america. many people. [cheers and applause] mr. trump: many people have said over the years that i perform better under pressure than anyone i've ever -- they've ever
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seen. i proven it over and over again. that is what we have to do right now. on, whenpressure is the odds are stacked against me and you, when people say that it can't be done, that is when we get started. we are going to change things around. the thing that motivates me the most is when people tell me that something is impossible. for me, impossible is just a starting point. that's when you begin. [cheers and applause] remember, with $20 trillion in debt and $100 trillion in unfunded liability, a lot of people say it's impossible. it's a big, fat, ugly bubble. obama doesn't allow the fed to raise interest rates. when they go, you watch what
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happens. it will be very unattractive. he will be out playing golf someplace. you know what? they are wrong and what they are doing and it's unfair to the people, unfair to the country and they are so wrong. from the depths of that terrible real estate depression i created a company and created tens of thousands of jobs. together we revitalized neighborhoods, rejuvenated communities, and hired thousands and thousands of workers. on november 8, america's come back begins, and we need a come back. and we are going to rise up from our present challenges bigger and better and stronger than ever before. [cheers and applause]
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a lot of people said, why are you going to pueblo? pueblo saysbout winner, including what dwight eisenhower said long ago. and they said, do you think they will like you in pueblo? i said, i think so. they said, well come you have a lot of hispanics and latinos in pueblo. i said that's why they are going to like me, actually. believe me. when you look at what is happening with the african-american community, when you look at what's happening with the hispanic community, very, very unfair. very, very unfair.
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[chanting "trump"] the people in pueblo know what it takes to rebuild this country. foe.d or very -- she'sl got a very weak voice, so you can let him stay. but just be good, sir. be nice. the hillary people are not in the same category. had not madeders the deal with the devil, he would have gone down in the history of politics is a very rare and unique person. but when he made that deal, and i know that he wished he didn't,
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he had an event recently where 150 people showed up to hear him talk. i will say this, we've always had by far the biggest crowds. but he was second. but he made a deal with the devil and his supporters are no longer really his supporters any longer. that i can tell you. one of the things that bernie sanders and i agreed on is trade. something that is so sad in this country, what is happening, how jobs are being taken. the difference is, i can do something about it, and make a bad deal into a a great deal. all he knew is, it was bad. city with a rich immigrant history and a rich latino history. the latinos love trump, right?
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that has contributed to much to this country and this state. --ough the people of pueblo thank you. and their families, they've come from all regions of the world. one verynited by this important factor. you are all americans. [cheers and applause] [chanting "usa"] and as americans, you are entitled to the same protections as every other american gets.
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everyone living lawfully inside our borders are entitled to the same things, safe communities, a toat education, and access high paying jobs and really good jobs. and this isn't happening. this is the change that i will deliver. hillary clinton has been there for 30 years, delivering nothing but talk and failure. the other night when we were at the debate, i noticed more than ever before, she says she's going to this and this and that. i said to myself, why hasn't she been doing it for 30 years, right? just talk. deathlicies have wrought and destruction overseas and poverty at home. she has brought massive poverty to everyone, but especially for african-american and latino citizens. get theirin, tries to vote, although i must tell you, the enthusiasm for her is very small. don king, the great boxing promoter, who endorses me, said
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donald, the african-americans love you. don king. here's a man, whether you like him or not, that's a smart cookie, a tough cookie, and he has done a job. but he said you are going to see a big surprise in november. in this case he was talking about the african-americans. he said you are going to see a big surprise because so many african-american people love you and they want you to really help them out in terms of the inner cities in particular, where it is so dangerous, where education is so bad, where jobs are nonexistent, where youth cannot get jobs. thank don king and so many others for their endorsement. we have so many others, and so many reverends and pastors, bishop jackson from detroit, incredible people. pastor darrell scott.
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so many, and i'm so honored by it. really, i am honored by. clinton that hillary takes the african-american vote for granted. here is the bad news, i don't think you are going to want to go out and vote for her. this is not barack obama where they really had spirit to vote for him. nobody has spirit. remember she called african-american male youth super predators? she'snts to vote for her, not going to do the job anyway. she opposes school choice and trapants to african-american and latino students into the failed us. she doesn't want to have choice and she doesn't want to end common course that we can bring education locally, which is very important. she doesn't want to do that. get pooring to
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,inorities -- i'm telling you the commission on presidential debates is operating this microphone. every time the secret service .ears that sound, they go, whoa that commission on presidential debates, what a joke they are. i got to go through them on sunday night again? by the way, mike pence on tuesday night, he has been fantastic. tuesday night. tuesday night. to get poor minority children out of failing schools and into the public-private charter or magnet school of their choice. it's going to be a big difference. latinotell you, the children, the african-american children, it's going to be some
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difference, believe me. clinton supports obama care and wants to expand it. care is an absolute disaster. how much have they raised your premiums this year? how about triple, quadruple? and it's going to die of its own weight, but we are going to terminate it and replace it and it will be so much better and so much less expensive. premiums in colorado are set to go up another 20%. the only way to stop this disaster is to vote for trump. supportslinton also the terrible trade deals like china'snton's nafta and entry into the world trade organization, and next, she wants to support transpacific partnership, the deal she called the gold standard, that she lied
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to during the debate. she said she never called it the holtstandard, and lester kept questioning me on everything, but he never questioned her on that. it turned out to be alive. she called it the gold standard, and she will approve it if she gets in. colorado has lost more than one in seven manufacturing jobs since nafta and china deals. but while you have lost out, hillary clinton has raked in cash from her contributors. she and bill have made $150 million in speeches, and she's a bad speaker, to special interests. they gave 39 speeches to be including $2 million in speaking fees from goldman sachs. the clintons received another $2 million from us with bank after hillary negotiated a favorable settlement for them as secretary of state.
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[yelling] mr. trump: to hide her corruption, hillary clinton puts her e-mails on it illegal secret server, open to foreign hacking. bleacheddeleted and 33,000 e-mails after a congressional subpoena to hide them from the public. under ohto congress and her ringleaders took the fifth amendment and got immunity deals. in so many ways, it is worse than watergate. the investigation of hillary clinton was rick and it's a shame, and it's one of the saddest inks that have ever taken place in our nation, believe me, what has gone on.
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we have become a banana republic. we have. today we learned that the fbi made a side deal with clinton top aides to destroy their laptops. did you know this? let me repeat. the fbi reportedly made a deal to destroy the laptops of government officials implicated in a massive criminal cover-up. i think you have a lot of great people in the fbi, and you do, indeed. i think they are extremely upset at what is going on. hillary clinton is the ringleader of a criminal --erprise it has can rub it corrupted our government at the highest level, and the american people have one chance to stop it, by showing up in voting on november 8. people have had it with the years and decades of clinton
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corruption. this is the year the american people say enough is enough. are the sordid aspect we are together as a movement, all of us come outside of this area, all over the country, we are the bright future. now, another issue i want to address today, only, is immigration. pueblo is filled with wonderful, hard-working immigrants. it's these hard-working thegrants who stand to lose most from our open border immigration policy. illegal immigration and broken jobs of programs take directly from latino and hispanic workers living here lawfully today. you know that. they are taking your jobs. it illegal immigration brings with it massive crime and massive drugs, including a terrible heroin problem right here in colorado. you have a big problem.
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so we are going to build a what? wall, -- [yelling] we are going to build a wall and we are going to stop the drugs, the gangs, the violence, from pouring into colorado. we've got a lot of bad people that came in. we have great people that came in, but we have a lot of gang members, we have a lot of druglords, we have a lot of drug sellers. h are going to ship them the ell out, immediately. we are going to shut down the sanctuary cities that have led to the preventable deaths of so many. cases like a woman murdered by a
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five-time deported league -- illegal immigrant who should never have been here. or killed by an immigrant released at the border by president obama and then leased again after the killing. there are over 2 million criminal aliens in this country, and we are going to get them out, and get them out fast. to the cartels, the gangs, the drug dealers, i have a simple message to you. your days are numbered, and your reign of crime will soon come crashing to enhance. we also have to keep our country from terrorism. the terrorists who planted the bonds in new york and new jersey and who carried out the mall stabbing in minnesota, you all saw that, were foreign nationals
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admitted into our country, as was the mall shooter in washington. or look at cases like the boston bombers, or the san bernardino shootings, here on a fiancee from saudi arabia. killed 14 people that gave him -- gave them a baby shower or short while before, and she killed them. not only killed them, but many, many horribly wounded to this day. shooting, the son of a taliban supporter from afghanistan. terrorists are infiltrating our country. now, hillary clinton once a 550% increase in syrian refugees and countless more refugees from across the middle east. i want to keep your family safe. representnot to
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foreign countries. my job is to represent the citizens of the united states of america. putting your jobs, your wages, and your security first area america first, remember that. america first. you are living in the united states today as a lawful resident, or u.s. citizen. i will ensure you have a safe community, rising wages, and secure immigration system, which is what we want. is nationalsecurity security. very important. it's national security. here are some of the things we will do, starting in 2017. we are going to lower your taxes substantially. she is going to raise your taxes. we are going to eliminate every unnecessary regulation.
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we are going to repeal and replace job killing obamacare. make childcare affordable. say your second amendment, which is under siege. and i have the endorsement of the nra, very early on, great people. we are going to support the men and women of law enforcement. and we are going to appoint justices to the supreme court of the united states who will uphold and defend our constitution. we are going to finally rebuild america. we are going to revitalize america. unite america.
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we are going to come together as a people. imagine what our country can accomplish if we started working together as one people, under one god, saluting one american flag. [chanting "usa"] we will makegether america wealthy again. we will make america strong again. we will make america safe again, and we will make america, like your cap, we will make america great again.
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>> coming up in about 20 minutes or so, at 5:45 eastern, hillary clinton is campaigning in akron, ohio. we will have live coverage here on c-span. with mike pence running for vice president, three challengers buying to become the next governor of indiana. we'll bring you the debate among the three candidates, democrat john greg, the republican, and the libertarian, that's coming up at 7:00 eastern. ahead of tuesday's vice presidential debate, we will take a look act at the candidates.
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andinia senator tim kaine indiana governor mike pence, using the c-span video library. before.n this story i've turned on the television and seeing the bad news of a shooting or whether emergency or a famine. i've seen the stories, and there will be more stories. but there were something in the store yesterday that was different, and it was you. even in a dark -- dark day of optimism and community and hope. president is the most visible thread that runs through the tapestry of american government. it sets the tone for the other branches and spurs the expectations of the people. its powers are vast and consequential. it's requirements from the outset and by definition, impossible for mortals to andill without humility insistent attention to its purposes as set forth in the constitution of the united states. at tim kaine and mike
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pence, head of the vice presidential debate, tonight it 8:00 eastern on c-span. watch any time on www.c-span.org and listen on the c-span radio app. minutes,, and about 20 more like coverage from the campaign trail, this time from akron, ohio, with hillary live, here on c-span. until then, part of this morning's washington journal. french, a us is david writer for national review. briefly considered his own independent presidential it briefly. let me begin with a very general question, your assessment of this race, with about a month to go before the november 8 election. assessment is, for a brief time, donald trump had momentum. all of that momentum came to a crashing halt when he failed to prepare for the debate.
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he fell into every single trap hillary clinton late for him. as i tweeted out that night, rump hit anthes.s. t iceberg, backed up and hit it again, just because. i thought it was donald trump at his best as a debater. then he fell apart and just compounded it all by taking the bait again and again on dealing with the miss universe controversy, giving iran -- ramblings speech in pennsylvania. had hemomentum and delivered on the debate stage, we would be having a completely different conversation, but he didn't bother to prepare, so now we're back to where hillary clinton's emerging once again as a pretty clear favorite.
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>> can mike pence turn it around? the short answer to that is no. you're talking about a debate that's going to have a fraction of the viewership, to personalities that people don't really care about that much, or something completely unexpected, i expected to be kind of a non-event. can donald trump turn it around with a second debate performance? let's put it this way, he's put the bar so low that i think he has a good chance of performing better the second time around. is 2016. anyone who says i know exactly what's going to happen from this point forward, we are just regulating. this has been one of the craziest election years of our lifetime. we probably have two or three more twists and turns before election day. eventaks canceled a big
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for security reasons. are they going to reschedule that event? there are so many things up in the air right now that it's very difficult to predict but right now the momentum is on hillary clinton's side because she manipulated donald trump and he fell for the trap. >> you wrote the following, here is a sentence i never thought i would type. after days of prayer, reflection, and serious study of the possibilities, i'm not going as an independent candidate for president of the united states. how close did you come to making the decision that you would run? >> i looked at the decisions the made,jor parties had hillary clinton i believe to be corrupt and dishonest and bad for america, and the gop, when they had a historic opportunity whoin against a candidate
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so many people feel were dishonest, who i believe is unfit for the presidency. you had to unfit candidates running for the president, a highly unusual circumstance. , i looked veryse closely at it, i studied it hard and i just didn't see the path to be anything for me to be anything but a spoiler, and i didn't want to be a spoiler. i didn't want to be the route nader of 2016. i wanted to give it a legitimate chance. i felt like somebody with a larger constituency, more name recognition, would be a better choice. kristol and others mentioned your name, it was, david who? >> indeed it was, after all of this blue over i looked at some
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of the news coverage and someone had put together a you to of news anchors across the land saying, who is david french? one of the interesting things you saw in all of that, as people dug into my background some thered it to things donald trump has done or not done, it began to make sense to people, not enough sense for me to do it, but there was a path there for someone who had larger name recognition, a larger constituency, someone who would not have to spend tens of aliens of dollars to get their name out in public. french, ast is david graduate of harvard law school, joining us from nashville. he lives in columbia, tennessee, which is about an hour away. talk a little bit about your service in the u.s. military. >> i joined as an old guy.
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i was 36 or so. i felt a sense of conviction. this was in late 2005 when i decided to join. a sense of conviction that we were in the middle of a long war. i was a healthy guide, i had a family who loved me, and why was i not doing my part? why was i only sitting on the sidelines saying god bless the troops or i support the troops. i got an age waiver, went to basic training at age 37, which was let's just say no one will make a video montage of my basic training efforts, and deployed to iraq with third armored cal -- cavalry regiment and during the surge in late got into iraq october 2007, in november of served with07, heroes, people who are now closer to me than brothers and we had a tough deployment, we
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really did. it was a hard experience where we were. we did a lot of good things. when we landed in caldwell in november 2007, all of the area around us was held by al qaeda and iraq, precursor to isis. when the unit left in late september of 2008, we held all the ground. we had taken it back from isis. i'm proud of what our guys were able to accomplish. it came at a terribly high cost, but serving my country in uniform overseas is the proudest experience of my life. host: if you are a member of a third party, the number to call is 202-748-8002. if you are undecided, 202-748-8003. otherwise we are dividing between supporters of hillary clinton and donald trump. catherine from new mexico, good morning, welcome to the program. supporter of hillary clinton. caller: good morning. i've been watching everything and in regard to the republican base, you know, choosing to pick
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donald trump over any other republican politician, i think it suggests to the republican base that maybe they need to do a reality check and realize that all the things the republican party has told them in regard to climate change, in regard to obamacare, maybe been lied to and that is why they did elect trump to run and maybe they just need to change their party to democrat. host: thank you, catherine. well, one thing for sure, they did actually nominate somebody who is more democrat than republican to head the gop this year. if you look at donald trump's positions, he's been all over the place, adopted left-wing positions time and again on issues like trade, on issues like national security, he's been a big donor to hillary clinton in the past. so the republican base and let's
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be clear about this, it was a minority of republicans, donald trump was selected to lead the gop ticket with smallest percentage of the vote of any republican nominee in the primary era. as a minority republican running against a big field, nominated a guy i believe is truly in his heart more democrat than republican. let me back up, in his heart more self-interested than anything else, to the extent he has actual live policy decisions, they veer more toward the left than to the right. i think the wake-up call for the gop is couple of things. number one, they underestimated how many millions of voters really, really dislike the gop establishment and wanted to cast the protest vote, that much is clear. the second thing is, they overestimated how conservative the republican base was, people are attacking donald trump not being conservative and i think they were shocked how many voters either didn't know that or didn't care about that.
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they wanted somebody who was strong, who came across as tough and came across, you know, against somebody, came against the establishment in a strong way, they wanted to burn it down, blow it up. there was just enormous amount of anger in the base that a lot of republicans missed and never figured it out until it was too late. host: a tweet from dede, who says the guest was part of never trump. were you and are you? guest: were, yes. am i? yes. there is no information that donald trump has given me since i joined -- since i wrote that i was never going to vote for him that has changed my mind in any way, shape or form. everything he does only confirms that i will never vote for that man. now, to be clear, i will never vote for hillary clinton, either. i don't vote for unfit candidates to the candidacy and he is unfit.
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here is the thing that should be just incredibly sobering to the millions of supporters, i keep hearing supporters trying to convince me to vote for donald trump. they tell me, this is the most important election of our lifetime. if hillary clinton wins, america is over. this is the critical election, more so than any other in the last 50 years. their own candidate didn't even bother to prepare for a debate, did not bother to fully prepare for one of the most important events in this political period. he didn't bother to prepare. they are telling me this election is most important in their lifetime. their own candidate isn't acting like it, that is just one of 10,000 things that disqualify this man for the highest office in the land to lead the most powerful nation and greatest nation on earth. he is unfit, she is unfit, 2016 as an election is lost,
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fortunately america is resillient and there will be more elections in the future. host: who will you vote for? guest: i haven't decided yet, i will likely write somebody in, if i don't, i will refrin from -- refrain from voting in the presidential election. it is a right of mine to refrain from supporting anyone if nobody has been put forth as nominee i believe is fit to lead this country. host: from lakeland, minnesota, a viewer undecided. derrick, good morning. caller: good morning, america. good morning, c-span. i tell you, you know, this is exactly what is wrong. he brings out donald trump, brings out the highest turnout in primaries in gop history. then you have a bunch of people, like the never-trumpers here, who actually are worse than the worse liberal progressive democrat because you can see all
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the people who lost to in the primaries who don't support him, who put their word out there they would support the candidate and yet they do. kasich in ohio didn't show you up for the convention, you guys are throwing so much foeder on the table against the gop, you are ruinning your party and don't even know it. host: we'll get a response, thank you, derrick. guest: i hear people saying that, i am ruining the party, the party is ruining itself. by selecting donald trump to head the ticket. a party is supposed to stand for principles, not like a sports a uniformjust dons and whoever is wearing the jersey you root for because they are in that jersey. a political party is supposed to stand for principles. i hear people all the time say, well, by me not voting for donald trump that means effectively i'm supporting hillary, i would ordinarily support a republican. wait a minute.
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i ordinarily support conservatives, i ordinarily support people who, for example, are uphold american alliances and don't try to threaten they will order american troops to commit war crimes. i don't ordinarily support people who are against the free market system in the way that donald trump is against the free market system and international trade. i don't ordinarily support candidates who are dishonest. by not supporting donald trump and by not supporting hillary clinton, i'm behaving as i would ordinarily behave. a political party has to be held to a certain set of principles for it to be viable going forward, it is not just a bunch of people getting together and vying for power. to be honest, if the republican party is going to be a party that nominates people like donald trump, nominates people with the values of donald trump, i would like to see it be destroyed.
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it has no purpose going forward in this country, except destructive purpose, if these are the people who it will continue to nominate and will continue to support. to the extent a party, when a party abandons principles, it is no longer a value. party shoulds organize around principles. host: glen following you at david a french says the following. david french is undecided? he is not alone. guest: no, i am not alone. it is remarkable the number of people who will talk to me and they are just at a loss, they are at a complete loss. this is an election where the party elite of both parties failed utterly. think about the democratic party, we've talked about the republican party. there are very many talented progressives and i'm not progressive by any mean, i'm conservative. many talented progressives could have run for the nomination, many looked at hillary clinton
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and said, it is her turn. it is nobody's turn to be president of the united states. here is a person who is tainted by scandal. i can tell you as former jag officer in the military, somebody who handled classified information, responsible for investigating and prosecuting people who mishandled classified information, had i treated classified information the way she and her aides did, i would be right now negotiating a plea bargain to avoid a court marshall, that is what i would be doing right now. the democratic elite dragged her over the finish line. the combination of super delegates, large dollars, that pulled her past bernie sanders, i think a lot of people on the democratic side of the aisle are resentful of that. many people from both sides exactly to me and say, what is happening? why are these our two choices right now? so, i hope at the end of the day, when the wreckage clears from the election cycle, both
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parties will learn a valuable lesson. that lesson is, you focus around principles, not personalities or family dynastys. host: next caller from harry truman's hometown, independence, missouri, janice, supporter of donald trump. good morning. caller: good morning, good to hear you, steve. one day you will get your own debate. anyway, i want to ask mr. french what the subscription rate looks like at national review after they have gone on the tirade about trump, all i see now are begging for money and they don't take questions anymore. i mean, they don't let you make comments because they are all negative and i mean, i'm not the biggest fan of donald trump, but i really, really detest hillary and i would do nothing, nothing to help her get elected. these are the two choices we have, i'm not fond of them either, but this is what we've
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got. this is what the republicans gave us and you can look in the mirror to see why. because it is people like you that say, we need to do this, you have given up crappy, crappy candidates for the last -- i don't know how many years and you tell us, you got to vote for them, they are the republican. we have dutifully done that, when we get one you don't like, my god, the world will come to an end. i'm sick of it. sick to death of it. if we lose, you can look in the mirror to see who is responsible. host: janice, can you stay on the line? caller: i can. host: we'll have david french a -- respond and give you a chance to respond and follow-up. guest: if you have a facebook account, you can comment on national review. if you don't have a facebook account, we do facebook commenting as point of correction. who is the "we," here? who is the "we," that would lose? i am not part of the trump movement. he is, does not speak for me in
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any way, shape or form. the team i want to belong to is the team who produces candidates who are honest, people who have integrity and have principles and shown them and demonstrated moral courage in their lives. host: david french, who is the candidate? guest: ideal candidate, i don't think we had an ideal candidate. we had 13, 14, 15 people running who had better values than donald trump and majority of republicans recognize that, because they majority of republicans didn't vote for trump. i would've preferred -- i would have preferred rubio, kasich, i would climb over broken glass to vote for john kasich over hillary clinton. it wasn't donald trump wasn't my favorite candidate and i want to
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take my ball and go home because i was a cruz guy. the problem with donald trump, he is not fit to be president of the united states. anybody who sits there and threatens existence of the nato alliance based on understanding america's strategic position and american interest that a sixth grader should know that he lacks that level of knowledge, is somebody who is not fit to be president of the united states. somebody who repeatedly for weeks argue that he is and entitled to order american troops to commit war crimes, not fit to be president of the united states. you could go down the line. this guy is wrong outside the normal parameters and i did not give this candidate to the caller, i tried to stop the candidate. i didn't give previous candidates to the caller. what i have urged, conservatives like me in the never-trump
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movement urged to consider character, consider integrity. consider moral principles when voting for a candidate. donald trump has one primary moral principle, advance the interest of donald trump, a man with those principles is not fit to be president of the united states. neither is a woman, hillary clinton's principles are similar. she is a person focused around advancing her power and position. honesty doesn't matter, character doesn't matter, integrity doesn't matter to either of these individuals. my view, if you vote and you are gop and selecting for donald trump, don't forget there are two election cycle necessary -- in play here. if donald trump were to win, you are tied to him in 2020, as well. two full election cycles, your gop would be tied around a man with no character, no integrity, unfit to be president of the united states, that could do permanent harm, not just to the party, but the country. host: one other point, you wrote donald trump's insistent nato
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thank you for welcoming me here. two greatthank members of congress who fight for akron, fight for cleveland, fight for youngstown, fight or ohio and america. congresswoman marcia fudge and congressman sam ryan. now, i'm pretty excited about being here today. honored tospecially receive the endorsement of lebron james. [cheers and applause] now, i may become president, but he will be king of ohio, for as long as there is a king.
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i'm obviously delighted to be endorsed by someone who has such leadership and such extraordinary ability, but i will tell you what really moved me the most, he has given back to his hometown. he has advocated for small , givinges, for kids kids more opportunities. he has spoken out on criminal justice reform. he is someone who uses the platforms he has earned, because he has worked so hard over so out andrs to speak speak up for those who may not have a voice. so i am truly honored to have to support, and especially be able to tell people in his
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i am looking forward, not just to watch him continueetball, but to to be a leader in so many different ways. now, we do have an important election coming up. [cheers and applause] vote? here is planning to well, that is very good news, because this is the most consequential election, i think, in our lifetime. ,he choice could not be clearer and we need everybody should show up. how many of you still have to register to be able to vote? registered?re
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[cheers and applause] well, i want you to talk to your friends, because the deadline for registering in ohio is october 11. that's just a little over a week away. and if you are not sure whether or not someone you know is registered, or maybe you, yourself, want to be absolutely positive, you can go to i will vote.com. see that sign over their? yourere and confirm registration, and register, if you need to. so let's get everybody you know to register and maybe start voting with early -- when early voting starts on october 12. because we have just 36 days left. are reachingwe
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out, we are making phone calls, knocking on doors. if you want to get involved, you can go to my website, hillary clinton.com. sign up to be part of this campaign in the next 36 days. at 47246 andjoin get involved. because we are running to win ohio in this election. [cheers and applause] ms. clinton: and you know, everybody in the campaign is crisscrossing ohio. my daughter has been here a bunch. tim kaine and his wonderful wife have been here. my husband is coming back tomorrow for a two day bus tour through ohio. because webe back,
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care about ohio and we want to make sure ohio makes the best choice for the future of the people of this great state. now, i'm going to close this campaign the way that i started my career along time ago. families,or kids and standing up for people who may need a little extra boost in sure that this country delivers on the promise of the american dream. i believe the american dream is big enough for everybody. work fore willing to it, and do your part, you should be able to get ahead and stay ahead in america. now, my opponent and i have a about whaterent you
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it takes to get ahead and stay ahead, and that may be because we have very different life experiences. ok, people have different families, different views of the world, but here is what i have noticed. i have noticed that he always puts himself first. he wasbe that's because born into a millionaire family. business with the $14 million loan from his author. his father bailed him out, apparently that is the pattern, you've got to be bailed out when you do business with him, and he then has taken advantage of every single element of our tax code, of our economy, that he could. and along the way, along the way he has stiffed people, small
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businesses and workers and contractors. id that's part of the reason take this election so seriously. my dad was a small business. my grandfather was a factory worker. when he got out of the navy in world war ii, he started a small business. he started printing business. he printed fabric for draperies. and you know, he worked really hard. plant in chicago. no natural light, no windows. just a long room where there were two big long tables and the fabric had been laid out on them. if you have ever seen silkscreen, that's what he did. you take a silkscreen, you put it down, you take the squeegee, go across and lifted up. the end of one long table and start on the end of the other long table.
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you would add another color, doing exactly the same thing. he worked really hard and produced a good, middle-class life for our family. the wayi think about that my opponent has taken advantage of people, i've got to tell you, i am really grateful my dad never got a contract from him. [cheers and applause] because i have met people he stiffed. i'm talking painters and plumbers, i'm talking , marble in stoller glass installers, architects. a man who sold them p.m. post for one of his casinos, he would not pay them. you've got to stop and ask yourself, what kind of person does that?
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somebody who works hard and has a contract, which they expect to be honored. i met a man who had a small family business, installed the glass in one of those casinos. and donaldhe bill, trump said no, we are not going to pay it. the man was stunned, as so many hundreds and hundreds of people have been. back, come back and say we will give you $.20, maybe $.30 on the dollar. some of those small business this could not afford that. they had bought the materials, they had provided the services. trump didn't care. he basically just walked away from them, made them feel like they had failed, even though they had done the work they had been asked to provide.
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i've got to tell you, that is not the way we are supposed to do business in america. and i cannot imagine having a that thatwho believes is the way you are supposed street people. but you are going to help me make sure he never gets near the white house. [cheers and applause] [chanting "hillary'] intolinton: earlier today lido, i talked about all of the changes i want to make in how we can protect americans from the kind of corporate fraud that we have seen too much of. the most recent example is wells
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fargo. actually had people, thousands of their employees, accountsustomers into they either never asked for or did not understand. and then every time they put some money into a new account, they got fees, which then gave them a chance to get a bigger bonus. a really crummy game that hurt people. thankfully, we have an , the consumerow financial protection bureau in washington, that looks out for people who get defrauded like that. that is an important part of how we are going to protect people, and it's run, you may know, by richard cordray, from ohio.
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[cheers and applause] now, will it surprise you that donald wants to eliminate that agency? that agency has already ecovered $11 billion for consumers who have been taken advantage of by corporations. . [applause] ms. trump: and the behavior of wells fargo shows that we've . [applause] got to keep the banks so theyhese economy again he like they did back in 2008. i have said we're never going to let wall street wreck main street again, and i mean it. -- contrast that with my opponent. do away with the
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rules that have been imposed on street. e basically wants to let wall street, the banks, the hedge funds, all these other institutions basically do they want again. well, i'll tell you what, we're not going to let that happen. rules, not fewer rules on them. [cheering and applause] want us to make it easier for small business, to get rid of the red tape, to make it it clear thatmake most jobs are going to come from small businesses in america, so a big dynamic small business economy. but we are not going to let big corporations ig call the shots anymore. us.t is not working for [cheering and applause]
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ms. clinton: but trump's whole vision is really trickle-down economics. has the same idea that failed us before. you see, he believed that all cut taxes on the trickles nd then it down. well, we know that doesn't work. road.been down that and what he wants to do is -- i fair to say, trickle down on steroids. proposed, what he has proposed would slash taxes on the wealthy. now, i'm a little confused about that. because for a long time, we've been saying hey, where are your returns. a lot of us wondered what he was hiding. because you know it was would make him look good, he would put him
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right out there. everybody who's ever run for president in at least the last released their tax returns. my husband and i have about 40 returns out there. you can go and look at them and , you know, we t taxes and frankly we are grateful that we could. we are grateful for the blessings that we've had over last 15 years. [cheering and applause] ms. clinton: so did any of you last monday? [cheering] well, you know, i raised it. said, well, okay, what is he hiding? maybe he's not as rich as he claims. maybe he is not as charitable as he claims. doesn't want us to see
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owed hundreds of millions of dollars to foreign lenders. foreign [cheering] or maybe he hasn't paid any taxes. now, shortly after the debate, t was discovered that, indeed, back in the 1990s, he apparently lost a billion dollars on bad and failing casinos. booing] ms. clinton: ask yourself this: casinos? money on really? and you know, yesterday, some of his supporters said, well, it
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a genius. he's that he didn't pay any taxes. well, what kind of genius loses a billion dollars in the first place? [cheering] he said, in the debate, not paying taxes made him smart. that means.out what it means that all the rest of us taxes, right, what's he saying about us? but more than that, zero taxes for our vets, zero ht, what's pell r military, zero for grants to send young people to for health, zero for education, and you stop and yourself, this is the same
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person who's been going around just dumping on america. is a s our military disaster. well, he could not be more wrong of thank goodness the rest us paid to support our men and women in uniform who have done for us. [cheering and applause] ms. clinton: today in colorado, brilliantly used taxes.s to avoid paying well, that just shows, number 1, he is the poster boy, the poster boy for the same rigged system even worse.d make just think about it. he paid zero at least for about years, we believe, now based on what we know. he's advocating for huge tax cuts that would help him and his even more.
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what's he want us to do, pay him lose money? really? [cheering and applause] but you know -- [chanting "hillary"] ms. clinton: you know, there's a and ore to this story, we're just slowly getting it eye. the public so we know he stiffed people, didn't pay his bills. we know he took bankruptcy, depending on how you count, four or six times. he paid no taxes for probably 20 years. what his taxes would be after that. about how he lked can't release his taxes because admittedr audit but he everything before 2009 is not
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nder audit, so donald, release everything up until 2009. show the american people your taxes. i'll tell you another thing. fortunate enough to be president, we're going to pass a law requiring anybody who is a a major national party to have to release their taxes. cheering and applause] so what did we find out today? out a story just came aying that donald trump used chinese steel and aluminum for three of the last construction projects. steel ead of buying his and aluminum from american plants here in ohio and instead of , supporting hard working families american jobs, he once again
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stiffed us. overseas.at money now, he spends a lot of time right? the chinese, you hear that all the time when he talks. it turns out he bought his steel from the chinese. it turns out he owes big money to the chinese. o this is another one of the episodes of his reality he is ion show, where saying one thing and doing something else. for years, china has been undermining american businesses workers by illegally dumping cheap aluminum and steel into markets. you know that, right? sounds like donald trump has been buying that dumped and aluminum. how can he make america great won't even buy
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american products in our country? [cheering] this is tell you, personal to me because as a senator, i went before the trade commission on behalf of steelworkers in new ork, who i represented, and as secretary of state, i went toe to toe with the chinese. forward an agenda to from down on trade abuses countries like china to stand up for american workers and to american infrastructure ith american materials like steel and aluminum. [cheering] s. clinton: and today, in toledo, i pointed out -- because chrysler just announced an plant there for the new jeep wrangler about 700 jobs, right. [cheering]
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ms. clinton: i pointed out when the automobile industry was flat 850,000 workersd in ohio could have been job more out of a than we can even imagine in lasting impactng on the economy here. didn't rump said he care. save it, don't save it; didn't matter to him. stood, i stood in favor of saving the american automobile industry. [cheering] ms. clinton: and look what we got. our auto industry had the best year they've had in a really long time. and so we've got to keep building it. we've got to keep making sure there are good jobs, and e've got to protect good union jobs against the assault that is
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sides. from all that ohio is a tough state. you've got to get out there, talk to people, answer your case.make that's what we've been doing. that's what we're going to do all the way to the end of this election. but i need your help to talk to anybody you know here who thinks voting for trump. i know you know people. you do. and you've got to stage an intervention. [cheering] got to sit you've them down and point out how he wants to says do is absolutely opposite of done, and how everything he has proposed will like him and his
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family but not the vast majority families in ohio. in fact, if you look at his tax they benefit him and other wealthy people, hedgefund and the like, and they would actually raise taxes on middle-class families. [crowd booing] well, that's the kind of contrast we're getting out in the campaign, but that's your help, to make sure you go out and talk to everybody. know, i know people want change. that's part of the american spirit. we want change. well, i'll tell you one thing have s certain is we'll change. it's just what kind of change? it's whether or not we have change that helps the vast majority of americans, americans, g middle-class families, or continues to only help those at the top. i want an economy that works for
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everyone. top.just those at the [cheering] ms. clinton: and that's exactly for, we're going to fight and that is what we're going to get. i'll tell you, i've been called right.of things, i've never been called "quitter." get tell you i'm going to up every day and fight for you, that is exactly what i will do. [cheering] can't do it alone. donald trump stood on the stage and just, onceon again, painted this dark and dire picture of america. then he said, "i alone can fix it." gets confused between leadership and dictatorship. [cheering] ms. clinton: he has a hard time
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remembering who our friends are and who our adversaries are. he has a weird fascination with vladimir putin. we have a lot of people living ohio who either themselves or their parents or from countriesme that were under the yolk of we're never nd going to let that happen again. [cheering] and so when trump basically putin's wish list, that's bad enough. when he's cavalier -- and i'm not talking about basketball. cavalier about that, oh,eapons saying he doesn't care if other countries get them. in fact, if there were nuclear
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war in east asia, japan got weapons, if south korea weapons, hey, just go at it, folks. he even said he didn't care if arabia got nuclear weapons. one thing that has been a bed foreign policy through democratic and republican republicans, going back to the dawn of the atomic age, is we were committed to trying to keep other countries getting access to nuclear weapons, to be able to stop proliferation. now it's even more important because it's not only states likewe have to worry about north korea, we've got to worry about terrorists getting their nuclear weapons. the last thing we want to do is just act like it doesn't matter it does. i was involved in putting sanction against iran that drove them to the table.ting and what i learned --
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[cheering] -- if you use diplomacy and you're tough about it, you can to puty get an agreement a lid on their nuclear program, and we're going to make sure it to the period, everything in that going to enforce. [applause] still have and we challenges with iran, but i think we're in a stronger given the fact that they are not racing for a uclear weapon because we have intrusive inspection. so i know diplomacy can work, i've done it, and i know that -- [cheering] -- we can defeat isis and the otherists if we work with
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nations, if we have a coalition actually takes them out from the air, takes them out on the ground, and fights them are doing so hey much damage by radicalizing and young people. [applause] ms. clinton: i've been laying for what i think it will take to defeat isis, and i have no doubt we will. he has a secret us that he won't tell about. well, there's no secret. no plan. and we've got to do more to make sure we protect our country. we need the best intelligence we get, the best cooperation among law enforcement at all levels of government. i will not rest -- you know, as new york enator from on 9/11, i take this as a personal responsibility. will do everything i can to keep our country safe and to
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defeat the hers to threat posed by terrorism. [cheering] ms. clinton: and finally, my riends, we've got to bring our country back together. [cheering] s. clinton: there is too much divisiveness, too much finger pointing and scapegoating. know, our diversity is one of our strengths. [cheering] ms. clinton: we have to listen to each other. we don't have to agree. required, but we need to be respectful. we need to listen, and then we sleeves and up our get to work. senator, s first lady, secretary of state, i worked to find common ground with everybody. i worked when i was first lady with republicans and democrats the children's health
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insurance program that insures 8 kids.on [cheering] ms. clinton: when i was in the i worked with practically every republican i served with. know, they always have nice things to say about me when i'm not running for something. and i will work again to move forward and to change the economy so it works better for hard-working people. and when i was secretary of state, we negotiated a treaty lower nuclear weapons, to try to lower the threat of that. 13 we had to get republicans, and i worked tirelessly. we got them. we did that. we can do if we respecting ing and each other, and avoid the kind insults thatng and we see too much of.
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so i'm excited about the i'm even more excited about getting to work get up being able to to try y and find a way to help somebody. raised that is how i was in my church and by my family, done at is what i have through my advocacy work and my work, on behalf of people who needed a voice. i will do everything make sure i deliver results for you, and the reason published a book with my great running mate tim it's right here. [cheering] -- is real simple, i want you to know what we say we're going do, because i want you to
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hold me accountable. [cheering] i don't believe in bait and say, oh, we're going to do something and then i really am over here doing something else. reminds of somebody, doesn't it? here's what we're going to try to do. by e going to pay for it raising taxes on the wealthy and losing loopholes on corporations. [cheering] only inton: and i am the candidate who ran this whole campaign saying i will never class.taxes on the middle whenis not going to happen i am president. [cheering and applause] join thisn: so please campaign the last 36 days. talk to your friends. remember, friends don't let trump.s vote for
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[cheering and applause] ms. clinton: i am motivated i'm a ay, because now grandmother, two beautiful grandchildren. and i think about their future. i think about their lives. i think about our country. i want our country to be the of opportunity, the place where dreams do come true if work for them,to not just for my grandchildren, child.r every i want every child in this country to have a chance to live her god-given potential, and if you will help this election and then help me work to make it come have a country that delivers on our dreams and proud of.e can all be thank you, and god bless you! [cheering and applause]
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