decision to suspend talks in russia. we'll take your calls and you conversation at facebook and twitter. "washington journal" is next. good morning. it's saturday, october 8, and there is plenty of political headlines with just 30 days to go before election day. wikileaks released a new trove of e-mails apparently a hack of rough hillary clinton's campaign aid's e-mail account. some messages contained excerpts of a speech she made before her presidential campaign, a hack a caused aids to express concern that secretary clinton may look out of touch with voters. obtained and ideo

posted by the washington post shows donald trump having what is described as a lewd conversation about women on the television show in obtained ad 2005. a revelation that created a and caused restorm some republicans to withdraw support from the g.o.p. nominee few to call for him to step down, which brings us to today's questions for our viewers. will donald trump's comments affect how you vote on election day? donald re supporting trump, call 202-748-8001. those supporting hillary clinton can call 202-748-8000. a third party g candidate can call 202-748-8002. and undecided voters can call 202-748-800 202-748-8003. you can also reach us on twitter @cspanwj.

and the news about the evelation of that videotape posted yesterday by donald trump roiled the political campaign. anald trump was on the set of soap opera when he was recorded vulgar terms about kissing, groping, and trying to during a ith women 2005 conversation caught on a hot microphone. that, quote: when you are a star, they let you do it. video posted by the washington post. hat video caused an immediate reaction causing donald trump to issue first a written statement a videotaped on, reaction to that. donaldake a look at what trump -- the video donald trump

released last night. said trump: i've never i'm a perfect person, nor pretended to be someone i'm not. i've said and done things i regret and the words released today on this more than a decade-old video are one of them. knows these ows me words don't reflect what i am. i said it. i was wrong. apologize. i've traveled the country changing america but my travels have changed me. i've spent time with grieving have lost their children, laid off workers whose jobs have gone to other countries and people from all of life who just want a better future. i have gotten to know the great country, and i've been humbled by the faith they've placed in me. a better man tomorrow and will never ever let you down. be honest, we're living in the real world. this is nothing more than a distraction from the important are facing today. we are losing our jobs.

e are less safe than we were eight years ago, and washington is totally broken. her kind inton and have run our country into the ground. i've said some foolish things, a big difference between the words and actions of other people. bill clinton has actually abused women, and hillary has bullied, attacked, shamed and intimidated his victims. we will discuss this more in the coming days. at the debate on sunday. ast: that was donald trump in video released last night in esponse to the video posted on the washington post featuring comments that he made 11 years ago. bob is calling in from miami beach, florida. of you're a supporter hillary clinton. aller: well, i have become a supporter of hillary clinton, and i'm sure if there was any viable republican candidate, i supported them. but the loyalty to party cannot

a loyalty to the constitution and the safety and the good of the united states of america. i just can't -- the media allows s to go on and everything -- everybody makes excuses, but he has raised some tough issues, and he's raised issues about racism. any kind of ism you want to talk about. and i'm angry that it is resonating with some of my fellow americans. ask you this. do you think that this latest revelation will make a in the election at all? caller: absolutely. a hink it just proves he's chauvinist. i think it proves that his is good for a man and women aren't good enough. just astter and they're good as men at what they do and now it's been proven if you're a woman, you have to work twice as hard as a man to get -- host: okay. appeared to have lost bob there. in the other news about the

wikileaks release of more -mails about hillary clinton's campaign, apparently through a hacking of the e-mail account of one of her campaign aids. politico, it says the batch of e-mails which wikileaks promised is the first many more to come, provided a glimpse into the inner workings offer campaign and telling details on views about trade and the middle class. of the most notable changes, linton campaign research director tony clark e-mails other members of the campaign on excerpts of hare her paid speeches that could come back to bite the campaign. flags from the hrc's paid speeches we have from the hwa. highlights below. there is a lot of policy positions that we should give an policy, carrk h writes. calling in have lou

connecticut. you're a trump supporter. good morning, lou. caller: good morning. my call. for taking well, donald trump -- this was nt from donald trump taken back in '95, i believe. host: 2005. caller: 2005. with the agree rhetoric. that it was ate miked. we've heard of locker room talk. unfortunately, some males do speak that way and wind up regretting it. ost: let me ask you this, as a trump supporter, are you concerned of the reaction from some other republicans. today, donald trump was to appear in wisconsin with ryan.speaker paul he was disinvited from that and

now mike pence will go in his stead. are you worried that republicans are going to be skiddish now? caller: i don't really believe that that's going to happen because true trump supporters stand behind him no matter name because the hillary is so tainted, and it goes all arkansas ck to the days. a rapist y defended who raped a 12-year-old girl and even come up in the media, and she laughed about it. so we could talk about all the with her and bill clinton, and that doesn't really come up to the surface as much media. host: okay. let's take a look at one who did -- who has withdrawn his support from after this recent revelation. jason lican congressman caffitts.

take a look. i'm out. i can no longer in good endorse this person for president. it is some of the most abhorrent and offensive comments you can imagine. my wife and i, we have a 5-year-old daughter, and if i can't look her in the eye and tell her these things, i can't i'm out his person, so of the endorsement here. i don't know who i'm going to vote for. 'm not going to vote for hillary clinton. there's no way, under no scenario. an i cannot offer endorsement, for whatever that means, of donald trump. > house speaker paul ryan has pulled out of a scheduled appearance with donald trump tomorrow. what's going on behind the at the g.o.p. tonight. >> a lot of shock and dismay. a lot of scrambling. wish that ot of us mike pence was at the top of the ticket. moralk he's a man of high fiber. still cry on my pillow that

mitt romney didn't get elected the president of the united states. at i do wish mike pence was the top of the ticket. why should we have to settle for anything else? it really is sad, because what a opportunity and a great talent and i think the message f donald trump was a good one, but if this is the way he acts. and that apology, that was no apology. for getting pology caught. that was not an apology for the behavior. use a baseball metaphor, i've got to call balls and strikes as they come across plate. why should we tolerate this? presen presidency of the united states of america. can't do it. host: a fundraiser in which mike appearing in in donald trump's place will take place today at 3:30 p.m. you it on c-span as well and the c-span radio app.

from nie is calling in wisconsin, a clinton supporter. what do you think of this latest revelati revelation? caller: i think it goes to show that there was something behind about his -- you know, he gets away with this private persona that, you know, politician, so supposed to 's not be held to a certain standard. have to be he does held to a certain standard because he's running for the in the land and here in wisconsin, the event he a supposed to come to is huge republican event here, and this was all this hoopla that he speakerng, and that the is going to be here, and the head of the republican party and, of course, our governor. now he's been uninvited. , you really speaks to now, this -- let's just say some challenging issues within the republican party.

i could say tong a couple of the other speakers. guy thing andst a locker room humor. some of the comments he made to rape.valent and when we start talking about to le, i think they need remember if they have children or if they have wives and they would think of somebody talking them in that way, they ould be completely offended, and that would be not acceptable. and so when we have a candidate that way -- and i on't care who it is, that's something that goes beyond any or, you know, nudge-nudge, wink-wink. it's not like that. host: okay. what house at speaker paul ryan said in reaction to the video. said: i am ent, he sickened by what i heard today. women are to be championed and revered, not objectified. i hope mr. treat this situation

deservesseriousness it and works to demonstrate to the country that he has greater for women than this clip suggests. longermeantime, he is no attending the event in taking placeich is today at 3:30. hat statement comes by way of politico. andy is calling in from lexington, kentucky. a trump supporter. you this video affect how vote or affect the campaign in your eyes? caller: thank you for taking my call. it's not going to affect my vote. i like mr. trump. he's the only hope we've got to country back. and what he said in a private like jesusn, i mean, said, who is among us that is without sin cast the first stone. amazes me how all the republicans, paul ryan and all off the ship. when hillary deleted 30,000

e-mails. illed four people, really, literally in benghazi and all the lies and the tales she's and the cheats and the muslims in middle eastern supporting her foundation and they're going to jump on trump for something he conversation, ate it's just beyond me. i can't believe our country is headed this way. that, the gged about earlier, they talked about how getting that out rapist off. that was on a court tape and she didn't know that was taping just like trump was taping and they purpose. did it on they were probably taping. the mike was on. who knows. host: okay. et's get more reaction on twitter. this coming from pastor mark ifns who tweeted: therefore, any man be in christ, he is a new creature. passed away.e all things are new, a quote from bible coming from a trump supporter and pastor mark burns.

next, we have joe calling in from sarasota, florida, a clinton supporter. good morning, joe. caller: good morning. donald trump calls raped s rapists and he his first wife. his first wife dropped the got millionsse she in a divorce. i'm sick and tired of hearing people that support donald they say oh, hillary clinton, thanks to her, four died.ans okay, lets go that way. died on new le -- 9/11 in close to 3,000. a the other person, he was she was by the way, against the iraq war. host: let me ask you this. do you think that this video or do you ference, think it's just one more

revelation? caller: absolutely. that tells you what kind of man he is. or a because he's rich millionaire, he has the right? cosby is u think bill not in jail? millions. has if bill cosby was poor or broke, believe me, he would be in jail. up next, we have a caller from woodville, texas. supporter. good morning, rusty. caller: hi. comments comments few here. i don't think this tape coming out will change a lot. i think people are pretty entrenched already. you're just seeing another trump resurgence. all the people coming out that were never big trump backers. big a deal, at least, i don't perceive it to be. supportede anyone who trump the day before switching their minds because of this. the type of guy he seems to not being a e of

career politician from inside the loop. republicans are still going to begrudgingly cast their him.for and i think hillary supporters will still support hillary. he question is how do independents feel about it. in my opinion, i think it's a resurgence. i think it really depends on whether, you te know, he's still got a chance of becoming president. you this.y, can i ask do these comments change in any feel about the candidate? caller: i was a reluctant trump supporter. he wasn't my first pick but he's what we got and through the what's up there. bernie supporters may be supporting hillary now. with the g.o.p. now. you've got to get in line at point. would i have made those comments? probably not. but he thought he was making

conversation.vate whether people choose to admit it or not, it's pretty common stuff. like his camaraderie may be boastful, something along those lines. i don't think it's outrageous or crazy talk as people are making he wasn't e or that crying rape, or equating it to rape. that's ridiculous. host: okay. just a programming reminder. between s debate hillary clinton and donald trump can be seen tomorrow, live beginning at 7:30 p.m. eastern time. ou can catch it on c-span, c-span.org as well as on the c-span radio app. in fromhave fay calling corbin, kentucky, a trump supporter. good morning, fay. good morning. last night, we were listening and watching hillary clinton as tweeted out that she was disgusted. this man is not fit for the presidency. now, let's go back to bill clinton. after he was caught having sex

oval the desk in the office, hillary then went out him, and he ed for won the election. people said they voted for him for the economy. i am the reason that voting for donald trump, is the economy. host: let me ask you this, fay. that case, if it was bill clinton running or bill clinton this ready president, case, it's not hillary clinton who did that. she's the candidate. case, it's donald trump himself making these comments. does that make a difference to you? no it doesn't, because last night, she said that donald to be president because he made this statement. as far as i know, he has never raped anyone. allegations coming out against clinton, a couple of the him even settled with after they said he raped them. ut if hillary clinton is so outraged at donald trump now, hy wasn't she outraged at her own husband. donald trump is a private

citizen. president of the united states. just think about it. how in any world could we have xcused him after he was a president, having sex in the oval office. host: okay. who is making his about donald trump is david letterman, the retired an -night host, sat for interview recently and talked about donald trump, one who he according to " this piece in the new york interview.that lermman was asked about donald trump, who has made several show.ances on his in the past, and has appeared on other late-night talk shows this campaign and letterman says, if i had a show, i would have gone right after him. i would have said, hey, nice to see you. asked, what ave gives you the right to make fun less uman being who is fortunate than you are. that is where it would have

nded because i don't know anything about politics and trade agreements and china yuan.uing the but if you see somebody who's not behaving like any other known, that means something. they need a psychiatrist, a diagnosis and a prescription. letterman talking about donald trump in an interview before the one latest revelation but after a of controversies surrounding the candidate. we have herbert calling in from new york, a clinton supporter. how do you think this latest tape will affect the campaign. i don't think it will affect the campaign, unfortunately, in regards to trump. he can say and do it.hing and get away with my thing is that here in new trump has ow that and a con man te for most of his life.

the greatest criticism must those who have been supporting trump. they have been conned to believe hat this guy can make -- can change things in this country. phil says that to judge at's future behavior is look their past behavior. only trump's past behavior, it is his present behavior. is a mental and personal degenerate. host: up next, we have anita, a from supporter calling in naples, florida. good morning. caller: good morning. haven't even had my coffee, but i'll tell you, the bumps in and the things rush limbbaugh said this week about hillary's husband, you know,

biggestpresident is the and most important thing in the world for us. -- i hope i don't have to tell you this. here was a woman that was killed on the phone that was that he raped her, clinton, i'm talking about bill, hillary's husband. host: anita, let me ask you find bill clinton's behavior unacceptable, shouldn't he same standard be applied to donald trump and the things that he said? he implied that he could get a woman groping against her will because he was, star. a caller: that was 10 years ago, and he wasn't even a politician. opera.on a soap the man -- everybody has a right to change. a right to change. and i'm sorry, i just woke up a heard this. d i host: okay. up next, we have joe calling in

from amsterdam, new york, a supporter. does this affect how you will vote next month? no.er: my vote was already pretty much decided already, but i just got say that anybody who supports this guy, if you support -- you racist ormay not be a you okay st, but are with having a racist and white house? the this guy, do you want him negotiating with world powers, this guy who's just a loose off the hook? i don't understand how people can support this guy. before, and especially now. thank you. next, we have dalia alling in from miami, a trump supporter. does this affect how you will vote next month at all? it won't., those were words, not actions, mr. clinton. hillary is a liar, and she

should be in jail. wikileaks just came out and told about her views, about the world, and i hope they on coming. host: okay. a little bit more about reaction from top republican lawmakers. tv says ort from ku governor gary herbert and chaffetz they son they won't vote for trump in the light of video making comments women. and former utah governor jon jr. and senator mike lee, in calling for the billaire businessman to leave the race. more reaction from prominent republicans on this issue. daniel is calling in from

robins, illinois, a clinton supporter. will , do you think this affect the race? this : i hope so, because up and -- i stayed listened to what was supposed to apology for what he'd done, but that was really no apology at all. just keeps saying things and doing things against women, against minorities, and i don't why people keep letting him get away with that. a very rump said terrible thing i cannot get out of my mind. he said he'd like to go with his own daughter and no one is talking about it. the republicans trying to sweep rug. under the he didn't say that, oh, that's not that important. can you imagine how damaged that young lady had to be, having to defend her father. me ask you a question, a point made about donald trump in several callers about bill clinton's past. do you think that it makes the

former ce that the president was -- so they had xtra marital affairs, is that relatable to what donald trump is accused of doing? you go what i think is back to bill clinton, anybody else in the world, what donald and it was as wrong rotten. i don't care who else did what. terrible. man said was if you look at all the other terrible things in the world to ake donald trump's thing okay, that's okay with you guys but i think it's wrong and i don't you say. you can't wash that away. host: okay. tonia , we have an calling in from summit, new jersey, a trump supporter. what do you think? affect how you vote? caller: no, it really isn't. stunned when i saw what i saw what he did 11 years ago. but at the same time, i know talksin the respect of he the way he talks and he talks like an east coaster here.

i was more surprised that billy bush was with him, who i been on and he's "access hollywood" and i believe he's on "good morning america" him.s with and i know billy bush is a christian guy. know billy bush is not the same guy he was 11 years ago. he's respected. people.mired by the he did the olympics. he is a very good hearted man, is, you know, that this is kind of a witch hunt. supporter right from the beginning with trump. i don't feel that this blackens me, because i know what i'm listening to. is 11 years ago. even with his tweeting. and st says what he says, that's who he is. but hillary, on the other hand, both i've studied candidates very closely and i've read everything. seems to be.o she she has a lot of lies.

many involved with so -- make her very deplorable. she has more secrets more hidden. this is the conversation, but hers are actions. host: okay. a look at reaction from jeb bush, who is an uncle bush.lly it says as the grandfather of two precious girls, i find that apology can excuse away donald trump's reprehensible degrading women. and coming from mitt romney, the governor sachusetts and the last g.o.p. presidential nominee, he tweeted, hitting on married women? assault? such vile degradations demean daughters and corrupt america's face to the world. some reactions from some prominent republicans to the revelation about that. also, john kasich tweeted make

mistake. the comments were wrong and offensive. they are indefensible. and up next, we have steven gainesville, om florida. a clinton supporter. good morning, steven. good morning. host: and what do you think about the trump video? o you think it will affect how you vote and do you think it will affect the race? caller: personally, i think people that are voting for trump sexist, and just are misguided. into trump's past, he raped a 13-year-old girl, and in california, and that was dropped. now, got a new attorney and they've got a new witness, guy's body brings up this past. the guy he used to hang out with n new york is a convicted pedophile. so do fact checks.

me.'t listen to but these people who keep voting know, i was you in nes jack, i'm a navy my life on the line in world war ii. stand by y, i don't mccain, but as a human being in family, the gold star mother and father. it's just on and on with this man. host: okay. next, we have john calling in from columbus, indiana. supporter. does this affect how you will vote next month? i ler: this won't affect how vote next month because hillary bad on's done so much stuff. i mean, our government. they tell us what we

want to hear. like, trump, it seems y'all, he says exactly what the american people want to hear and he's the type of person that would probably follow through with it, and as far as clinton, they've done so much bad stuff over the years, and people have he's the type said a lot worse in football locker rooms. i mean, i'm not -- i'm telling right now, he shouldn't have said it. but who taped the conversation? know. host: okay. this piece from law news by dan ebram gives the latest about the alleged case against donald rump that was brought up earlier. it says the complaint alleges billionaire convicted had a le jeffrey epstein woman pick up teenage girls at his parties. of the girls was jane. in an affidavit, it says both

the and epstein raped plaintiff several times. trump has repeatedly denied the allegations. raquelle calling in from hartford, connecticut. a clinton supporter. how are you. good.: i am how are you today. host: i am good. how do you think this latest affect the race and do you think it will affect how you vote? caller: yes. -- i am shocked to hear video, and whoever released show -- it amazes me how people say oh, it was 10 years ago. they like to bring up president clinton. see these people are biased a biased. forgive , how they can

this man talking like that, he's pervert and should never be the president of the united states. and i commend es he speaker of the house who came out and had respect for women. women should be respected all way. this man is sickening. host: up next, we have troy from eastern maryland. troy, you're undecided. does this video affect you or direction or another? caller: yes, good morning. a lifelong democrat. but i wasn't going towards hillary. and i was thinking about donald trump. but, i mean, he keeps putting in his mouth over and over again. and i wasway from him even thinking about gary johnson and i just think he's an idiot. man.m like oh, so when donald trump said what he says, i guess i'm going to

hillary.wing towards host: and what is it different revelation atest that was different than the others. donald trump has said a lot of taken asat people have offensive. caller: yeah. at his news conferences. he said something that might be little -- that's offhanded or whatever but this, i mean, he is just blatantly saying that, oh, up and grab women by the genitalia. that's outrageous. 10 been in the navy for years and have seen a lot of crazy mess. man, drunk or n a do something like that. so no. host: okay. calling we have lenata in from alabama, a trump supporter. does this affect how you will vote? no, it don't, and the first thing is, i am not a racist. were f my best friends black. my pastor, he's white and he's

black children. so you people that are judging says, look back on your own life. as ve probably said things bad or worse. that is hypocritical. f you want the same junk we've had for the last eight years, you go ahead and vote for illary, because all of those e-mails had classified information on it. nation.ects our what he said about whatever that junk was he said, that has to do with the country. host: let me ask you this. that that's reflective -- caller: she believes in okay.ion, that's killing people. that is killing people. and if you don't believe in to vote for need trump. host: okay. calling we have herbert in from river edge, new jersey. you're a clinton supporter. erbert, how does this affect your vote? caller: of course i'm more than

ever for hillary, but i think he debate tomorrow night. i think it's going to be postponed. but i would say this. i would ask the supporters, would you hold him up as a model for your children? holding the t him highest office in the world? nd to represent this country, its values? and i think if you could not say model for a role your children, you cannot vote for him. host: okay. we have ken calling in from cincinnati. you're a trump supporter, ken. you will affect how vote next month? caller: yes, the, and the fact meant matter is, this was to overshadow the wikileaks about tion that came out what hillary said, and when she to the people at wall street. there's a lot of things that anytime s doing, and something comes up, they go back into this time warp and pull omething up from the last 10 and 20 years and try to get the news cycle to talk about that.

let's talk about what's going on now. what hillary did is a lot more recent, than this particular tape. host: ken, let me ask you this. yes, it was a tape from 11 years ago. but donald trump has said a lot of things on the campaign trail. insulted rosie o'donnell. got into a fight with megyn kelly where he called her a and offended her and a lot of people. is this evidence of an ongoing attitude towards women? caller: what this is, this is the old divide and conquer, for the women to surround her, to get angry at i would ump, and say never vote for him and to overlook the fact that she wants 100,000 syrian unvetted refugees here and turn over some of our american cities unvetted refugees to rehab, and i tell you, there's just more to this. this is is just another

distraction. hillary clinton is the queen of distraction. anytime that he starts coming down on her, she comes up with rabbit to pull out of her hat. if you want to compare it, i will compare it this way. i will take donald trump's words over bill clinton's actions. did say these e things. yes he did say these things, but the fact of the matter is, did on those? we've got a very serious -- we have very serious problems based country, and if we don't really look at our national security, if we don't look at people that are coming in here as a matter of fact, the number of bombings escalated under the clinton and under the obama months, er the last two if we don't really take a serious look at this, we're of g to be down the path destruction where we may not be able to come back. host: okay. others reacting to this video. new ditorial board of the york times today leading with an sleazinessitled, the

of donald trump and calling out some of his supporters for still backing the candidate. asks, has he gone too far at last? editorial says governor mike pence, you are proud to be a christian conservative. the man you want at your dinner table, let alone in the oval office? speaker paul ryan. you couldn't possibly want mr. trump as a role model for your children. you diminish yourself by urging him on the country? senator kelly ayotte, you said this week in your race for re-election from new hampshire trump was a role model for children and you said you'd plan ken, that you still to vote for him, even though you weren't actually endorsing him. to tie continue yourself in knots like this? rom the new york times editorial today. we have jackie calling in from baltimore. you support a third party candidate. does this video affect how you will vote? caller: no, it won't.

this video absolutely disgusts e, and it disgusts me because some dumpster diver went into the gutter, dug it up and all over national tv. this is not who we are in this country. women and women talk about men in good old terms in their private lives. not on stage in debate. this is something that whatever happened in a private that was taped. host: jackie can i ask you which hird party candidate you support? caller: i haven't chosen one yet but i definitely won't be voting a democrat or republican. host: okay, on the point that conversation.ivate we've seen donald trump make statements about women in the public. does that make -- just say this about women and donald trump and women in general. clinton, the sitting president sitting in the oval cigar in monica

lewinsky's vagine ahillary his wife and advocate for women stood by bill clinton while he den graded that woman and didn't say a single word about it. so who's the champion for women. champions for e themselves. hillary t vote for clinton if she was a dog catcher running. host: up next, we have ken from rhode island. does this video change your process at all in being undecided. caller: not at all. really into this but i marvel over this country in how it's become in 20 short years. his woman just stole my thunder. 20 short years ago, we elected a sex with an intern in the oval office of the going tond today we're say something about who said qualified.ot it marvels me about this

hold up david u letterman as the paragon of his own o is known by admission and documented to have members ofe sex with office.f in his let's get real. stanley calling in from supporter. clinton good morning. caller: hello. am i on the phone? host: yes, you are live stanley. how do you think this video will affect the race. anler: i think it's going to end. first of all he's not a good businessman. everybody says he's a great businessman. he went bankrupt three times with the casinos. he put the casinos within five each other. he's not a good businessman and not a good role model for our children. he's a loser and will always be a loser. these people are saying he just did this. it was a video, nine years ago.

this is ridiculous. this guy is a pig. a pig until he dies. bringing up clinton. bill clinton is not running for president. hillary clinton is running for president. host: okay. up next, we have phil. is calling in from lancaster, pennsylvania. you're a third party -- i'm sorry, paul. you're a third-party supporter. next e you supporting month? aller: i can't believe how righteous all these people have become all of a sudden. makes me -- host: paul, do you have a andidate that you have already selected a third party candidate that you will vote for? caller: no, i haven't yet. host: okay. naomi calling e in from madison, wisconsin, a clinton supporter. good morning, naomi. good morning. host: and how do you think this

video will affect the race and it affect your vote at all? caller: it doesn't affect my at all. i see it's already affecting hope he ple's, and i steps down. i hope he just calls it quits and gets smart and just cuts out. this would be a good time for that. about t i wanted to say obviously the real person that he is. i mean, this was hanging out he didn't ys, and think he was in the public eye. horrible.s and he won't apologize. he can't apologize. hat video apology was no apology. he doesn't know how to apologize he's never had to apologize for anything. to. never been forced and there's going to be a lot of has e, i think, and this been talked about too, that a lot of republicans and a lot of

supporters ump publicly say they're trump say that because they feel they have to. host: let me ask you this. on the point of it being being what he really thinks, do you think there is a between een judging what candidates say publicly and their policy positions and what don't realizethey that the conversation will be played before a world-wide audience? oh, i think the bad politicians think there's a big that they can get away with saying and doing anything they want, as long as nobody finds out about it. then you get somebody like hillary clinton who's actually has nest person and integrity. walk when she talks the talk. host: up next, we have vinnie lincolnton, rom north carolina. you are a trump supporter, jenny. affecting your vote at all and do you expect it to

campaign? caller: no, it's not going to affect me at all. this woman saying. [choppy audio] having a little bit of trouble hearing you. i think i have a cell phone reception issue. again? try can you repeat what you said? caller: yeah. this i just heard woman -- i'm a trump supporter all the way. this will not stop me. just heard this woman say hillary was an honest person and worthy, and she must be drinking something. men talk like w, that in locker rooms. women talk like that. a lot of talk, it's no action. i'm feeling sorry for him because his republican behind him in the first place, started to get behind him. him hey're trying to dump again. i don't think this is going to

change anybody's minds, but i you to have a show and show the new e-mails of clinton and all this stuff she's gone through, lying to the people. now these e-mails, showing that really lying to the people, and she's saying it. people need to take nother look at hillary, and worry more about this country and what trump can do for this country. next we have joshua from acon, georgia, a third-party supporter. who do you plan to vote for next month? caller: hi. letting me on. i'm planning to support jill stein. i feel like it's time for this healer rather a politician or any of that ilk. whole think that this thing is being looked at properly. i think that the issue is

both of these w, candidates and what they represent. represents rump who this far right faction of, you towards the way things are going on in this country, misplaced. but, i mean, it's actually got some sense in it. got the hillary clinton supporters who are too go over to the other side, to a third party, because know our values as democrats, we want something more. but we can't fight. we can't stand up and do the aght thing, which is vote for third party candidate. some people don't even know there's third parties out there. in a rural area, you know, people here actually don't even know that they can vote for another person other than donald

trump, other than hillary clinton, and it's sad. host: okay. next, we have bobby calling in from fitzgerald, georgia. supporter, bobby. does this video affect your feelings towards him at all. does. yes, it host: and how so. caller: i can't wait to pull the lever for him. more excited for november 8 to get here, and i c-span has really drifted. -- you gotme of that a little tarnish on your halo. liberal etty much today. i heard hillary clinton say private and public thoughts she in her e-mails. she shows a public face and a really face, and i'm just so excited about donald showing who e he's the hypocrites are, and they're in the media. am laughing at utah and all those congressmen out

there. polygamy capital and talking about donald trump. these guys, there's just so many losers on all sides. this.let me ask you is there anything that donald trump could say that would make you change your support of him. caller: no. he could say i'm supporting hillary clinton. he could say that. is the real on problem and the people have been this isall those years, nothing but campaign tactics. and i know you don't want to hear it, but bottom line is, around me -- i listen to rap music all day around me. it.n't play i listen to the comments. t's called walking around comments and maybe you don't want them as your president but i wouldn't hold barack obama as paragon of virtue because he does allublic face and this dirt in secret. host: rory is calling in from miami, a clinton supporter. good morning. caller: good morning. host: and does this affect your

vote, and do you think that this the race? yeah, i think it will affect the race. voter.clinton and voted in the past, but i vote becauselinton i know she will try to fight more for the union members, you because i'm from 1652 and i know she would try to fight union and i know donald trump won't. and other people involved in the union as well, we were trying to fight for that building, but onald trump don't get along with them. got to go through benefits and way.o get paid the right he expect you to labor all you and minimum wage, on $52 a day. ou can't make it on $52 a day

dealing with donald trump because he don't support no union, and i'm in the union and through t we had to go when he had them towers built area in miami,ch florida. host: okay. some other headlines today. florida, some democrats are criticizing governor scott for voter registration deadlines after hurricane call.ew, according to role florida's democratic congressional delegation criticized governor rick scott allowing four more days of voter registration. quote, it would be lo gistically challenging and likely impossible for many who would ike to register to vote to be able to do so before the impending deadline of october 11th, the letter sent by florida democrats. governor declining the request by democrats to do that. jim costa, a tweet

department of he homeland security, secretary ohnson and fema deputy administrator briefed both secretary clinton and mr. trump response to hurricane matthew. so both candidates were present and have been briefed on the in the wake of hurricane matthew, which is southeast ng the coast of the united states today. up next, we have connie calling in from fort washington, a clinton supporter. do you think this video will affect the race? no, not unless people use their minds. talking ed to stop about bill clinton. hillary clinton is running. she's not responsible for what her husband did. e as people, we have my thing is, nd when you take your marriage worse t's for better or and she just accepted the worst part of him. donald trump has been married

goes to showo that that his marriage vows didn't mean anything to him. along, hey woman came dropped that one and got another one. host: up next we have bill leesburg, from georgia. good morning, bill. caller: hey, good morning. bobby from fitzgerald, georgia. purple hurricane fan. this is talk among men. we do it all the time. i just done it a couple of days go, and hillary must be really desperate and drag something like this up. this is not our problem. country and s our our loss of jobs and the amount of people we have on public money.er that's our problem. host: bill, let me ask you this. saw a lot of republicans criticizing donald trump, even withdrawing their endorsements of him. does that concern you that other republicans see this comment as really unacceptable?

caller: well, i don't feel like unacceptable.are candy said, this is eye talk among men and these republicans that won't get need to be voted out of office, including that crazy man ryan. feel about he way i it. host: okay. next, we have mirial calling in from brooksville, florida. undecided. does this video change your thought process at all? what he said because, of course, we're i have sons, and i know how they talk. it'sundecided, but i think horrible that clinton, mrs. those , puts children in commercials that are telling all.how fat they are and children are looking at this.

you want to do a commercial, do without children. and that poor crippled child, commercials,ren in that is disgusting. for her, i'd never vote with all the things she did to the country. evil, evil woman. but you put children in the commercial, and they're looking. that is the most horrible thing do. that woman could host: up next, we have nicholas calling in from porterville, california. supporter. how does this video change your election. out the caller: this video that i've seen about trump really makes me want to actually go out there and vote, being a clinton upporter, because you know what, we don't have time or we concerned about what's going on, what trump is doing or what these candidates

are doing. things that are more important. we have a country to run. donald trump, you know, and all these scandals that out, and the things he's creating, the problems, republicans, you know, the party aren't even -- isn't this is a d, and disgrace to our country. we're not even unified people and i believe donald trump should step down. host: okay. calling we have randy in from hainesville, virginia. you support donald trump. does this video affect your opinion of him at all? him.er: yes, i do support and it doesn't. i would like to personally postatulate the washington for finally getting a little bit of something on trump, and i the much more important country, than worrying about locker room

banter. t doesn't even compare to hillary endangering national lying about still it. so that's my opinion. debbie calling from flint, michigan. you're a clinton supporter. good morning, debbie. good morning. great program this morning. i would just like to say one thing. maya anjelou said, when people show you who they believe them. donald trump showed us who he as way back with megyn kelly, fiorino and h carle what he said. he's a sexist and this tape just proves it. more problems t this morning with melania than he'll ever have with the american people. to hillary d clinton, i don't believe she lied. i believe that the e-mail has one ad nauseum, it's been investigated. it's not risen to the level of

criminality and the republicans swallow that. they're not getting their way, and they're mad. nd all this is is the republicans have done a very -- job of drift, drift, drift -- drip, drip the poison off the clintons. every woman that calls in that trump supporters cracks me up. they talk about how this was 10 years ago and this was a private conversation and he's not a politician. the day he threw his hat into he race to be president of the united states was the day he became a politician. and he started out saying he an experienced politician. conveniently dropped the experience. he is a politician. nd he needs to own these comments. host: okay. some other reaction to this video. a report by cnn that the head of advisory boardus is dismissing the vulgar comments that was revealed. head of donald trump's religious advisory board

n friday shrugged off incendiary comments made by the epublican g.o.p. a decade ago in which he bragged about being able to grope women. i've listened to the tape. my view is that people of faith are voting for president on who will defend and defund unborn life, planned parenthood, create jobs, nd oppose the iran nuclear deal. and i think a 10-year-old tape of a private conversation with a tv talk show host ranks pretty low on the hierarchy of concerns. next, we have thomas calling new york.thpage, a trump supporter. good morning. caller: definitely, i'm a trump supporter. i just want to remind the people that for 30 years, hillary has doing nothing. economy is a mess. is a mess. her husband had sexual affairs

in our house, the white house, we pay our tacks -- taxes for. forgets that. she did not support the woman at all. he actually put down the woman and said the woman was wrong. i happen to be guy and it's very known in the guy community that she's a lesbian. she needs to come out of the lock her husband in the with aand we can move on better economy. host: priscilla calling in from virginia. you're a trump supporter. video affect your thinking about the candidate. caller: yes, i with ado. i'm a 70-year-old black woman. i'm a born again christian. i have a daughter. i have three grand daughters. you something. king david had sex with bathsheba. got ried to put it off -- pregna pregnant, tried to put it on her husband. couldn't get done, okay, he wouldn't sleep with her. baby him killed, and the

god forgave him. king david. people need to read the bible. host: how does this relate to campaign? caller: well, it relates to the didn't t donald trump get anybody pregnant. didn't rape anybody. didn't sleep with a married got her pregnant and killed her husband and then married her. forgave. died and god god is a forgiving god. ask him to and forgive you. if i had to tell you about some of the things that i've done you would t saved, think differently about me too. god. od is a forgiving host: up next, we have opal calling in from lancaster, texas, a clinton supporter. morning, opal. caller: good morning. a host: and does this video affect your choice for president? caller: well, i think donald trump is just a joke.

joke.ust a i'm ary clinton, she's -- voting for her. obama. clinton. they have had their time. why are they in the vote? voting for hillary clinton. they need to let obama go back home, and play with his toys. ost: up next, we have mike calling in from new jersey. mike.e undecided, is this video -- how does this video weigh in your decision making? caller: well, i'll tell you, you know, i'm listening to this show. flipping through the channels and i just can't believe my ears hearing all the in, and at are calling supporting hillary clinton. et's just rewind the tape what she's done in the past 26 years. she's done nothing. let's take a look at the last what has happened to this country. dollars in illion

debt and it's growing leaps and bounds so with these comments this women and all that, country is in a complete mess and that's what we're worried about? we need to fix this country. biggest thing right now, and you know, so if we want skeletons in the closet, hillary clinton has a ton of them. she's supporting countries and taking money from countries that throw guys and women off buildings. to hear about all this racism. what we need to look at is the country, lem in this which is we are in serious debt and it's growing leaps and who s and we need someone can change that and i think it's trump. and i also want to make another comment. i think you should support more of the republicans and the trumps because you're cutting us and giving the clinton people a lot of time on this show. it makes me think where you're sided on this too, so you should really -- if you're going to do a show like this, make it sided. host: next we have audrey

in, a trump supporter calling in from north carolina. audrey. ing, caller: thanks for this privilege. the issues at hand that are of supportive importance to the residents of this country and the citizens and vote ers and of this country are safety.onal perspective of what is happening. and om brawl talk brusqueness by trump, yes, this this cannot , but be what we vote on. it has to be the iranian deal. to be regard iing hillary's treatment of the benghazi situation. it has to do with the safety of regarding how our the se department and issues of why we went to iraq in

place, and our 20 trillion dollar debt, and all of major important points are what americans must vote on. it just came out, the most important thing, wikileaks is up e-mails that have been hidden from us, and it's when een reported that ing ary spoke to the bank ing institution groups that she my privatehat i have personal matters that i follow, statements are different from my personal beliefs. these are the issues that must taken into account. host: okay. and up next, we will be taking calls about the unemployment numbers that recently came out showing that unemployment rate rose to 5% 156,000 the fact that jobs were added.

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albright.madeline it's much more popular. >> for our complete american istory tv schedule go to c-span.org. "washington journal" continues. host: and we continue our morning, now his talking about the unemployment rate and the job situation in the new ry based on report that came out, according post.e washington it says u.s. companies maintain hiring.teady pace of in september, helping the jobs.my add 156,000 new new government data showed friday the unemployment rate 4.9% to 5% om because the labor force welled with would be workers, a sign americans are growing come from nough to the sidelines. the labor department revisited ts estimates for job creation in july and august with the ombined total falling by 7,000

jobs. the nation has added 178,000 this n the typical month year, roughly double the pace necessary to keep up with population growth. latest from the washington post about the latest job numbers. get to your can you tell us. ann is calling in from greensboro, north carolina. you are employed. what do you think about these jobs numbers? does it make you feel better about the economy? caller: yes. i think it's great, and i think to remind ortant republicans that when george month he office, the left, 800,000 jobs were lost. we were in the deepest recession. we had a gdp of -789. keep hearing republicans when they call in describing how is, and the job market how our jobs are being lost, but opposite.xact but everyone recognizes that we

need to continue to create more the and, of course, president put forth a proposal bill, which the republicans again refused to to have a to the -- vote on it. excellent, with all the instruction that he has the job numbers re good this month, and as you said in your report, it increased because so many people decided they would return to try to look for work. host: okay. phone with us, we are oined by jim malaney, an economics columnist up the street and will talk to us a little bit about this report. good morning. berl.i, kim how are you. host: good. thanks for joining us today. us, what do these numbers mean and how do they compare

expectations? about recovery, i make an analogy to the beatles last hit. grinding of a long and road that lead to the middle class's door. the pace of hiring is slower it was last year for unemployment. it's basically adequate and more keep up with population growth, and a really interesting thing is that wages to rise.ning they're up about 2.5% in the and recovered pretty much all the damage that's been done since really off the highs dot-comboom when everyone optimistic. eling host: should we be worried about he uptick in the unemployment rate from 4.9 to 5%? >> not really. the reason that happened is because workforce participation as come up almost half a percentage point in the last eight or nine months.

what we're finding is people who out of work 27 weeks or longer, which the labor calls the long term unemployment. a certain number of them tend to for work and g then drop out of the unemployment rate. what we're finding is those look inre continuing to greater numbers. so basically at the pace of job we've had, the unemployment rate has sort of plateaued in the last six months, but it's plateaued at a fairly healthy level with more working and most importantly, people are getting raises, which is a sign that the labor market is reasonably tight. host: in one of your latest pieces in the street, you talked numbers might affect the presidential race might be more beneficial to secretary clinton. you wrote for presidential candidates, secretary trump and hillary clinton, it would change contours of the debate. linton is currently winning by

about five points according to poster.com's average. the picture remains. economy is near full employment but not there yet as begin to raise standards of living more broadly han recover did in its earlier stages. can you talk more about that? >> yeah, in 2012 when mitt focused on the unemployment rate coming below up in hiskind of blew face because it went under 8% ight before the election so mitt would have been better off talking about wages falling andply during the reception have not recovered. what we found is in the goodness a time, and this has been very slow recovery from a very deep recession cost by a very crisis.ancial it has taken time for wages to recover, but they eventually and they are basically a little bit above when the recession began and getting during where they were the internet boom adjusted for

inflation. broadly good news picture. it certainly could be better. you would have loved to see inflation an after raise over the last 15 years, are , because 't and our energy has been spent getting back to where we were. a pretty said, we have much full economy and secretary argument she's trying to make are basically sticking. ost: we are talking with mullaneys columnist tim of the street.com about the unemployment numbers that came out this week. tim, can you tell us a little about the measure of these unemployment numbers? some questions about the legitimacy. is this a true measure of the in the unitedtion states? >> the important thing is to apples and es to what donald trump wants you to do is compare the unemployment

the analogy to the 5.0 that was reported reagan, y, to president which was 5.4% when he left compare d he wants you it to other issues, people that re unemployed, people working part time, people who have grown discouraged and left the work and putting all those together for what he calls the real unemployment rate. throws into the mix is 9.7% or in his fevered imaginations, it's over 40%. you get to 40%, you have to as t every retired person unemployed. over high school student 16 is unemployed and every college student is unemployed. that is truly not a real measure of unemployment as it ever existed. o give people an example of some of these other numbers that

have changed, some of the peopleyment rate and the working part time and the the uraged workers, which labor department -- has come 17.1%.rom the worst part of this past 9/7 today, full employment by that measure is 9%.ut so we're about half a point away from it. close to full employment but not it. host: let me ask you a little report in today's wall street journal. latest jobs data provided fodder for both parties, hillary clinton has campaigned in part on the long under in job growth president barack obama. republican nominee donald trump as pointed to modest wage growth and the plight of less skilled workers in arguing that latest expansion has left a large segment of the population

behind. wages have been sluggish the expansion but have picked up as of late and companies are competing more for their workers. can you talk about the different sectors and how there may be differences between them? yeah, sure. ou know, the problem has been early in the recovery that all the jobs being created were jobs.wage jobs, retail jobs waiting tables and that sort of thing or they were very were, you obs that know, software engineers, that sort of thing. in the last year and-a-half, you started to see in.middle fill people in reasonably paid professional services jobs. to talk about s is the decline in manufacturing some ment, and he has talking points there. the problem is that manufacturing output is actually ever been. it's it's just that because of automation and what have you. takes fewer people to make

anufacturers good than we ever did, and different kinds of goods.ctured what clinton is working with is the broad improvement in these that has e middle really come along, you know, more recently along with the growth. trump's argument is really a couple of years out of date. have ars ago, he could made the argument that we have made up the wages that were lost. you blame for ho the wage dropped percentage. that loss has t been made up really in the last two years partly because and tion has been so low, that's a consequence of the drop in oil prices. people get seen is jobs and better raises. ut the big thing is that because of the lower price of gasoline. people are getting more of those things nd enjoy them on they like better than putting

gas in their car. host: okay. a magic number we should be looking for in terms of what the federal reserve terms of raising interest rates? >> well, you know, the federal eserve right now is pretty divided. there were three members of the committee who wanted to raise rates at the last september. most of the bond markets tend to think they'll raise them in september, which is probably right. you've got an economy growing below what you'd like them to do but it is growing steadily and growing better than the rest of the world and consumer onfidence is actually quite high, and consumer spending is very solid. very solid.is so it's time. you know, the u.s. economy needs low interest rates, and doesn't need very solid. so them to be zero anymore. host: okay. mullaney, an economics

economist from thestreet.com. thank you for being here today. tim: glad to be here. ost: we want to hear from our viewers about the job situations. hattie is calling from houston, texas. tell us what do you think about these numbers, hattie. aller: i think they are magnificent. i'm a senior citizen, and and i been through this with ill clinton coming in after bush came in. there? re you okay. we lost hattie. up next, we have darrell calling from greenfield, north carolina. darrell, what do you think about newest economic numbers? do they make you feel good about economy? caller: not at all. i think the average american these obama ow administration labor numbers are true numbers. unemployed and underemployed. at 10%, obably looking and on young african-americans

probably looking at 24 and 25% unemployed. in the obama ers administration labor report is just a farce. make the obama administration look like they're doing a better job than they are. this is the worst president in history of this country. host: darrell, let me ask you this. what do you think isn't being like to see would being done by the federal jobs?ment on the issue of caller: well, trump's plan to corporate taxes from 35% own to 15% is going to stimulate a heck of a lot of communism. on the money setting sidelines that's not being used to create jobs and, you know, hillary, the democrats, all done, is going to be the same deal, you know, raise taxes. know, they keep saying the upper one percent. does hillary clinton think creates the jobs in this

country? a know, donald trump is billionaire but barack obama, tens of thousands of jobs he creates and all the people that those jobs could pay in taxes and whatever. his federal ut income tax. you know, a lot of business that when they have down years offset. they're the ones that create jobs. hillary clinton hadn't ever created a job in her life. ost: a little more about the jobs numbers from 538.com, has a iece saying that consumers are feeling better about the economy than polls suggest. here, as americans tell olitical pollsters that they are worried about the economy, they tell a different story in a surveys, et of forecasting consumer spending behavior. on tuesday, the consumer index hit a nine year high. below ex is still well its all time high set in 2000

ut is as good as during ronald reagan's morning in america era in the mid-1980s saying that perceptions change depending on the political at ersation or just looking the economy from a different perspective. rick is calling from upper marlboro, maryland on our employed line. rick, what do you think about numbers? caller: good morning. how are you doing. can you hear me? host: i hear you. you're on. i think the numbers are great compared to where we were when obama came in. i mean, i wish the guy would do a compare and contrast from the to the time he is now. gas is like $2.25. unemployment -- the stock market is up to 18. and a lot of your callers are facts. ignorant to the i think it's hate and jealousy obama and against everything. also, donald trump doesn't have plan. i mean, he's lost almost a

billion dollars. who wants somebody in the office who lose that kind of money. we're talking jobs, everything , and else. you know, i think it's great. people take vacations now. way some of g the white america is, the way they dispel obama. i wish you guys would just put your facts up. ost: up next, we have louise calling in from fredricksburg, virginia. line. unemployed louise, what do you think about these numbers? caller: i think that they could any way you want to, especially from the which is a blah blah blah place. i wanted to tell you that i thought the statistic that was interesting was the 287,000 people that have lost heir jobs or become unemployed in the past five weeks, i know

several people that have appened to, from manufacturing to construction. host: louise, talk a little bit about your situation. affected you. caller: i'm unemployed by choice right now, by choice. because well, i'm having cancer, so i've decided i'm not going to ork until i get myself together. i've been self employed for more than 30 years and i can honestly tell you, it was one of the worst experiences i've ever had. 60, 70 hours mostly for myself. i mean mostly to pay the and they were actually making more than me. but that's okay. that's past. that's done. the thing of it is is the jobs have been lost. in the past five weeks, people less ve been unemployed han five weeks has been this past five weeks. my brother in tennessee, he got

laid off from a manufacturing job. i wanted the people out there to understand what happened with oil and the gas prices. they started leasing lands and putting out all these leases 2016.n it took a couple of years to get them up and going. the most beautiful thing that happened was in 2014 which ey had a spill limited its traders on wall kind , street.com, those of people, they limited them, on the deriv tus market, which is all commodities when gas prices started falling. host: let me ask you this. is there something you would the government do that would help the government family members unemployed. caller: i think the governs have been doing a good job. rate hase unemployment crept up here in virginia and

it's mostly government employees and come up a little bit here in virginia, and it was doing good longest time. but i do understand that, you governor can have policies, state legislatures i do not ests, and understand how you would want to ut the same people back in office, the democrats, that gave us obamacare. money.es lots of it -- literally, bill clinton said it right. it literally takes money from man that's working 30, 40 hours, 60 hours a week. takes it right out of the pocket. my brother has been a king on a -- 26 days less year for eight years, you know. he's still not got his hours back. okay. calling in from virginia. here's a piece that gives us a

view of the erent economic numbers. it says beating back the flames of recession, the u.s. economy sliding into another recessi recession. month, the number of jobs added to the economy gets a lot of publicity. the economy is at about 200,000 jobs a month which combine with headline unemployment of 5% sounds and feels good but there is a story these numbers do not tell, a darker reality that is less publicized. various estimates there are between two and seven million americans who are not lookingand have stopped for employment, according to the american enterprise institute. men, there are seven million between the ages in this category. that's another perspective of the jobs situation as we discuss unemployment t numbers and the economy. hanz is next calling from longfellow, massachusetts on our employed line.

what do you think about these numbers? taking my nks for call. i just wanted to make some omments about the differentiation of the lower income workers and higher income workers and it's absolutely true bureau of labor and statistics numbers this month for middle class workers, and that's probably 20%.where between 15 and but 50% of americans -- pardon me. 80% of americans are not doing very well. going up erage income is the function of those 20%, not the other 80%. nd also, it's shocking for americans sometimes to look at numbers of what we make, because 50% of americans make less than year.0 a and that's the demographic that

s still not doing well regardless of these numbers reports. host: let me ask you this. big issue? my a and this is an election year, is you whenjor driver for you're deciding on which candidate to vote for? caller: yes. it always is for me. trump or a clinton support and mainly because of being on economic issues. you read that what rom the wall street journal, trump is the most correct as far as, again, the majority of americans not doing very well. but that's not going to sway me to vote for trump. host: okay. who's callingjohn in from burwick, pennsylvania. what do you think about the john? , caller: yeah, i'd like to make a taxes and ut

employment. it seems everybody likes to say lower taxes, it ill cure the employment situation. bush gave $10 e trillion worth of tax cuts and at the end of his administration, we were losing 8 jobs per month, after he of tax trillion worth cuts. as far as tax rates, when came to the state of until the in 1978 and present time, the state of new casinos at their 8%. in that time frame, donald trump ecame the largest casino owner in atlantic city. and he filed for bankruptcy in of his four casinos in atlantic city. when gambling came to

pennsylvania, they tax their 55%, from 2007 until the present time. new jersey, 55% for pennsylvania. a casino in been pennsylvania that has filed for bankruptcy or is in any kind of financial problem. the casinos in moican sun a, the have bought resorts and others are expanding. host: let me ask you this, john, what happens in the private sector and business does not always translate into the overnment and when it comes to leadership there. do you think that there's a there? ce to be made what i'm saying is it doesn't matter if you taxed 8% or 0%. get a scoundrel like

go into the who bankruptcy court. he pays himself a billion and his family. he goes into bankruptcy court. he says i'm bankrupt, can't pay people and my employees and can't pay the people that my casinos and he will walk out the other door and how manyverybody about millions of dollars he has and what a businessman he is. we have larry calling in from washington d.c. on our employed line. good morning, how are you. i'm employed full time. i thank god for that. you were speaking to a moment ago. the truth of it is, it's part time workers. to when clinton was in office, they talked about a surplus, i kept hearing that was a lie. they were sticking their hands trust social security fund. oh, you're federal workers, smokes and mirrors. washington post was $2 on

saturday. on sunday, it was $3. inflation. what is it, we have an across nation d in this contraction. every equipment, contraction. debt is 20 of trillion. the principal is 222 trillion. ask you this. what would you like to see the folks in washington do with and the o the economy job situation. aller: well, the corporate tacks is 39%, the highest in the world. take it down to 12. meddling with the small businesses, destroying them and allow them to employ more people stop with ith the -- the influx of the illegal aliens and all these trade deals. no growth. that's the way detroit looks the way it does, and pennsylvania. the people in pennsylvania, coal mines, it's it's been and planned this way.

i'm aware and a lot of people people aret too many in fantasy world look like reality television stuck on stupid. robert next, we have calling in from harrison, arkansas. robert, are you currently now? yed caller: yes, i am employed but i'm also an employer. has happened is the w-2 system is broken. correct. the cage that you're using to atch unemployment could be accurate. i mean, it's mathematical. working e are everywhere. but many are working for cash unreported, and that is the problem because when we took from the country, the jobs we took were legitimate payroll that personant that not only got a wage to live on, to thing was being applied their social security, something in savings and something in healthcare and that's done system, but payroll that has been broken.

arkansas, we have what's called noninsurance.of a builder can have six workers no employees. undocumented workers are working, and no one is talking holding the employees liable. it doesn't matter if you build a wall or a port. these people have been working. employers owe the back fees. the fines, and the is to fix fix this the payroll system. if we ever had amnesty, it would employers in and reduce percentages down because broken. unemployment -- all they think about in unemployment is handing the benefits. 14.8%.employment rate is it's outrageous. my comp premium is 13%. and that's why these people are not being reported, because when

go to the audit, if you have them on it, you owe all of that, o it's all done under the table. and people needing work are $10, $15 an ork for hour and get that check at the end of the week, but the country is hurting. hurting because we have a broken payroll system. host: okay. calling in have mike from houston, texas, on our employed line. good morning, mike. morning.ood thanks for taking my call. labori think the constant by imposition, the federal government gets too involved and the cost of labor makes -- it employers to s hire. when labor costs go up, the employed would naturally constrict. hire an someone 18-year-old kid when he learns to show township work on time working with others and customer service, how does he

you pay him $10 or $15 an hour when he's worth an hour. constant labor is -- ost: does it make a difference depending on the industry? it's a difference when you're in other or retail or industries? caller: i guess it depends on whether the employee, the new produce what he's worth. so i guess it would depend on he industry, but it all comes down to labor, the cost of labor versus the return on the employee. of the 't hire out goodness of their hearts. they hire for production. skills e employee has that help produce, then the would do well to hire the person. there's a mutual benefit there. depend on the industry but it depends on the hiring of the person. next, we have james calling in from leesburg, our employed line. good morning, james.

caller: good morning. ost: and what do you think about these recent jobs numbers. pretty i think they're terrible and the fact that they're only going to get worse in office.gets the problem with america today is it brings america down so you the e controlled by government. once you're controlled by the government, you have to rely on income.rnment for your that's unemployment. you you get people where want them, you can control them. it goes kind of like a you know, you pay amount of he same money. nobody's making any more money, hour, $12 an hour. comingxes, everything is out. and i think the only way it putd get better would be to trump in office, but like i he's a billionaire. he knows what he's done, and

with his taxes. pays taxes -- believe me, he would be in jail by now. taxes, i guess 20 paying 9 or $16 -- $916 - excuse me billion in like 20 years to pay to recover the money that he lost. and everybody thinks that he's taxes, but he would be in jail by now. host: up next, we have ray raleigh, north carolina on our employed line. good morning, ray. caller: good morning. how are you? host: i am good. what do you think about the current economic situation as jobs ed by yesterday's numbers? caller: well, basically, i don't anybody but i'm an african-american male and what i'm finding here in north competing i am

against illegal immigrants, hispanics. big issue i have is we bring people in this country from all over the world and as african-american, we don't realize they don't hire us. you go to any restaurant, chinese, i don't care what it is, there's no african-americans. why is it politly they keep talking about the plight of african-americans in this in otherhen they bring people from other countries who don't affiliate with us. that solve their problem america is always going to be the same. employment.unity i called the federal government. i called my mayor and the governor and they say oh, it's a issue. state needs to make laws where employees need to be accountable, and at least put their workers names in the list months, it will solve this problem. we need help as african-americans. making us look like we are not doing anything. i work seven days a week, and competing against so many latinos in north carolina,

customers and i am very upset and tired of it. thank you. ost: up next, we have katrina calling in from waldorf, maryland. are you currently employed? retired.ctually, i am i am retired. veteran from the vietnam era. i was in the marine corps. and with my educational benefits from that, i went to nursing school. o i am a retired registered nurse of 40 years. i'm 64 years old, african-american. at these job g figures, 156,000 in the month of september. i would imagine if president obama had a congress and, in republican the senator that would have worked growth would job probably have exceeded 200,000. i'm not really sure what folks are talking about.

hatred on these that are calling you. i don't think you're showing favoritism. what, after the comments from donald trump esterday, in my opinion, he is chopped liver. he will not rebound from that, his hat is what was in heart. thank you. host: up next, we have jerry in from fort worth, texas. good morning, jerry. caller: good morning. and are you employed? also, : no, i'm retired and i would like to comment on hat so many people are commenting on this unemployment issue based on their political ideologies. but we really have a situation n this country where we've totally abandoned the middle class. and one of the ways we've done allowed all we've the manufacturing jobs to go out

all over the world. is that somehow, the labor is cheaper. of so we have a bunch oliticians and business people that nonly use cheap labor and how to convert raw material into end product. if you take one industry, the we used to have many, many tire industries in this country. this country. now we hardly have any. thathard for me to believe we can't make a tire in this we actually consume more tires than anyone else. ost: jerry, what do you think the solution is? should it be -- aller: the solution is to stop making these decisions based on start al ideology and making solution on what we have country.rces in our own we have more energy in our own

ountry and yet we're going around and shutting manufacturing -- one of the converting raw material into end product is energy. e should be using our own energy. we should be exporting energy. i don't understand how people need toround and say we kill coal or we need to kill this, when we actually import other countries. that absolutely makes no sense. we need to do is let work.ee enterprise system let people hire people for their get back to et us making things that we consume. allowing back to people to go to work without the g to go through government and get a job. he government does not create jobs. host: okay. according to the wall street it listed things to look out for in evaluating the

obs numbers and one of them is industry breakdown, an issue that several callers have brought up. t says the type of sectors hiring is clues about the economy's underlying health and clouds over ggest the economy in the past two years has been energy industries natural gas, and coal. the sharp decline in oil prices years ago and overall weak demand in the global economy have caused companies to cut workers and spending. employment in mining and logging 25% in the last two years to 679,000 workers in august. the sector's contraction could be nearing an end. if so, that would boost the prospects in coming quarters. lorence is calling from stockbridge, georgia on our employed line. good morning, florence. caller: good morning. what do you think about the economic numbers? caller: i think the economic

numbers are pretty good right now. look at where we were prior to the president taking office, we know that everything -- all those economic indicators have increased, with the exception of unemployment, gone down. i do know that everyone wants to ay that the president is invoking some type of things count, manipulating the but we're using the same count that we've always used. that we're roblems really having right now is that our skills do not match. in the e a lot of jobs it sector. science.er where actually businesses have to go overseas to get people to work.ver and right now, in america, we as americans have become complacent. and if we are not doing the jobs that our forefathers have done, we're just going to sit and complain instead of going back retrained. host: do you think there's

something that the government can do to perhaps encourage seek out these tech industries but at the same time the folks who have been in other labor ies, forces that are shrinking in -- that level out those disparity. they have come up with these programs to help people train. right now, a lot of people just don't want to go back and get that retraining and what it's going to take. if we look at the middle class in america, we became the middle we were willing to go out and do those things that ere necessary, and that education and would get the training that we need. now, a lot of people feel it is necessary to always pass the buck and say that i'm not well because of the government. ut yet these are the same people who are always

complaining about the government getting involved. trickle down.e we've tried where these businesses were getting these tax cuts. that has not worked. because a lot of those guys them back into the jobs that produce more jobs. americans w, we as got to take responsibility for ourselves. ost: up next, we have richard calling in from springdale, arkansas on our unemployed line. richard. ng, caller: good morning, c-span. begin. know where to don't know where they get these numbers from. i've been unemployed a year. house. to sell our we sell everything we own. we live in a fifth wheel in an rv park. did you workdustry in? caller: i drove a fork truck. half of the people in this park workers from on out of state. they want me when i go apply

around here to start making what years ago. i don't have 20 years left in me. old.61 years i have very little computer skills. i don't speak spanish. and half of the jobs around here, spanish is a plus. words for, hey, you speak spanish or you don't get job. and they're paying half of what i was making. i don't know what to do. dog-gonei'm living in a cube. and like i said, i've sold own that took me 40 years to build up. anythinghard, is there that you would want the government to do, anything that you think that can be done or to hear, hat you want for example, from the candidates for office. we have an election next month. a at you think would -- message that you could send to them as to what folks like you

who are looking for work and difficulty finding it, what they can do to help you? caller: well, i'm not sure what tell them. when you're 61 years old, nobody old dog. that's all there is to it. i don't know how they could bring jobs back. they've let them go and that's the way they want it. you're 't matter if republican or democrat. i'm an independent, but these itself the government just wants to bring down wages can do aountry so they global thing. i can't live off minimum wage or $8 an hour. it's impossible. all i can do is pray i can make next year when i can draw early social security, i suppose. i don't know anything else to do. i don't own anything anymore but

a trailer and a truck. is calling us from winston-salem, north our unemployed line. good morning. aller: hi, i'm good, how are you. host: i'm good. what do you think of these most recent employment numbers? how r: i just want to say quickly do they forget, if it we wouldn't sh, have our black president obama. done the best that he can do without the republicans topping everything that he's us. d to do better for host: let me ask you this. you called on our unemployment line. re you currently seeking work right now? caller: well, i'm unemployed because i came out sick. the ones that say they are work, it's can't find plenty of work. i'm unemployed and have been

offered jobs but can't work and they're not orking, they're not going to sell pie in a pie factory. but when trump trying to get in, not, it will be hard for them to get work and they're going to cut out everything that they got. written everything that he got. to rying to get into there get back up to where he was and they don't even realize that, ecause they're not realizing where they came from, how far it when we s to get here, had so much trouble with bush. they need to think back. when you pay $8 for gas to try to get back and forth to and i did, i struggled. host: up next, we have angela newport news, m virginia on our employed line. good morning, angela. caller: good morning. and what do you think about the latest jobs report. caller: i think the jobs report good. i like it.

i see a lot of jobs being and see a lot of people a lot of growth, in my work environment but also in my neighborhood. it. 'm pretty good with host: and what industry do you work in, angela? contractor with the federal government. and i do budget. i'm a budget analyst. host: okay. go ahead. caller: and i also say that, you along with jobs and the job growth happens a lot because back, i have a lot of friends that lost their job, had people stay with me. but within a year, they went back to working. who went back into the industry, got a job, then, and ises since got promotions, and this is not just within the federal government but outside. it's been city governments as

well as private companies. pretty comfortable that there are jobs out there. i think that we've come a long and it'swhere we were, a process. we're on our way. host: okay. judy calling in from caller: good morning. you have had colors this morning complaining that the real culprits in the unemployment une are the illegals ho hire aliens or are paying people under the table. these people may be interested thehe 2013 report from office of the inspector general of the social security administration. in the end or report, -- annual report, they report a

discrepancy when the employers to hire a new employee. the socialr lists security number of that new employee. it turns out, in 2013, there were 8 million employees who social security numbers did not match the numbers in the records of the social security. and so, these people are using numbers incorrectly. it turns out there were 350,000 suche employers who provided those names. also, that report refers to a california case where the s were employers.

and supposedly coming union officials, who wanted an injunction to stop the department of homeland security from providing -- or putting an insert into the letters that notified the employers that there is this discrepancy. host: let me ask you this. not being familiar with this pacific report, what to think that points out in terms of the job numbers we are seeing? caller: i will refer you to a morning journal program a couple years ago, when you had a journalist on reporting about, i believe, the top 100 such employers. in illinois, i believe it was 37,000 or 40,000 employees at employer.

host: up next we have chris calling in from eugene, oregon. good morning. how are you? host: good. what do you think about the latest jobs number of report? caller: i'm calling from oregon. we are doing pretty good out here. think. host: go ahead. caller: we are doing pretty good. we are going upstream, or downstream, now. host: what industry do you work in? caller: i'm an educator. i teach. you see strong employment

in your industry? have the teaching license. .his is my 28th year teaching in the summertime, i go to alaska and fish. i worked the whole year, and then go to alaska and make some more money. to ashley. now are you currently looking for work? caller: yes, i am. the labor statistics are completely wrong. what happened since is the jobs you apply for are a lot of applications, you don't hear except maybe a e-mail we will get back to you, and they never do.

the employer reports and gets credit for taking these applications. a lot of times, they will advertise jobs and will move people around in the company, but they are not hiring new people. those who need jobs, they are not being hired. they're looking at what your background is. i have a masters degree and i have not been able to get a job. i finished my masters in 2012, figuring i could successfully get a job. have a as i write i masters, i get cut off. host: up next, we have andrew

parasiliti, joining us taking a stalematee latest dea in the syrian civil war. "newsmakers" interviews rob angstrom. [video clip] >> the current climate, and certainly since the role of the immigrant has become such a polarizing issue in the presence of camping, how optimistic are you that in the coming year or two there could be an agreement around immigration reform? , i am optimistic we have a solution. the question starting by asking, raise your hand if you think that immigration system is working. not one person raises their hand. i would argue there is more agreement than otherwise is

obvious. we need to retain the talent of the smartest people. america is of magnet. imagine if the inverse was true. how do we deal with the health care sector, in particular, the baby boomers, and what do we do with the pathway to citizenship. there is an opportunity in the next congress to get substantive things done on immigration. the houseate side and some there is agreement on . onknow what is done is done

a bipartisan basis. we believe the immigration system will be fixed in this system and momentum will continue to begin to. >> what if donald trump is elected? >< we will continue to turn up the heat and be focused. we will start where we agree and ensure that immigration reform is completed. >> "washington journal" continues. we are now joined by andrew parasiliti from the rand corporation. he is here to talk about the latest on the conflict in syria. what led to the suspension of the talks? to backup the second, the

u.s. and russia agreed they would try to work out a plan in syria that would do three things. one, coordinate military intelligence in target the al qaeda affiliate in syria. two was a cessation of hostilities. that would allow reduction in fighting and allow humanitarian assistance to reached the people. the peacewould allow talks to begin again. that collapsed for a number of reasons. thet, just a few days into cease-fire, the u.s. mistakenly bombed syrian troops. this was obviously not well received by the syrian government.

a serious believer in going along with the deal. that same night, a u.s. convoy was hit in syria and russia and been implicated. went downhill from there. aleppou see happening is , russia and syria working together, pounding the city, and the secretary of state just said yesterday that he is calling for an investigation of possible war crimes. that is where we are. it is a grim picture. that is what we have come to expect in syria. host: according to this "new york times" report on the saysdown of the talks, it

vladimir putin called for each side to dispose of 34 tons of plutonium. can you talk more about this and the reaction from both sides. guest: yes. the u.s.-russia talks was one of the few potential bright spots in u.s.-russian relations. overall, the picture has been pretty bleak. there was the intervention and occupation of crimea. there is concern about provocation in the baltics. now, there is not just what you mentioned in terms of the

russian reaction, but just to day, russia was accused of election.g in the what we are seeing is this is a very difficult time in u.s.-russian relations. host: a couple of pieces from today's "washington post" detailing the elements of what you bring up. secretary kerry suggesting a work crimes probe. it says, secretary of state john urges award prime investigation over attacks on civilians in syria. kerry said russia and syria had a targeted strategy to terrorize

civilians and kill anyone in the way. in geneva, the death toll put at 377 was nearly 1300 injured. piece points out much a officiallyu.s. has condemned russia of hacking. host: how might this continue to play out? there is a real deterioration of relations. this has real implications. of cyber terms

security. you much in hacking. this is a frontier in our of what weoctrine need to worry about. if indeed russia is interfering, that is a grave statement in escalation. two, russian ambitions in europe. to the middle east, we see what is happening. in syria, the call for an investigation. it is hard to see, at this point, a bright spot in u.s.-russian relations. weirs begin to enter paris to entere are speaking george, calling in from

georgia on the independent line. concernedm really about the over demonization of russia that could lead the united states to a war with russia. it seems anytime russia has been involved in the past decade, it seems to be in response to what they are doing. there was a machine change in russia. the same thing happened in ukraine. it was after that that putin came in. it seems we are supporting the worst possible elements. i'm hoping your guests can comment on the facts, whether or whether not the united states has been supporting an al qaeda

affiliate. i appreciate it. interestingeezes an -- raises an interesting question. the u.s. did not support the front. as he pointed out, it is al qaeda's affiliate in syria. mother is a coalition against the islamic state, there's also another group, another front, which is also designated by the united states, by the united nations, as a terrorist organization. over the course of the syrian war, this organization has grown, in terms of its capabilities within syria and its potential to target the united states and allies. in fact, when i began, i said one of the key aspects of what secretary kerry has hoped in the deal is that u.s. and russia would work together to target .he front in syria

the department of state has indicated that group is the largest al qaeda affiliated group anywhere ever. this is a grave threat. just this week, the u.n. syrian envoy said that the 1000 holding in aleppo are aleppo hostage. arecourt of what they targeting is a group of fighters that are mosusrah, but the syrian people suffer as a result of the attack. what let's take a look at josh earnest said about the failure of the negotiations, saying that president obama finally lost patience with

vladimir putin. [video clip] >> i think everyone's patience with russia has run out. they also spent a great deal of credibility in making a series without any clear indication that they were committed to following them. what we have seen from the russians in the year or so since the military intervention in made is that they have not much progress against isil. achieved aot significant counter isil objective in more than seven months, and have been reduced to qu claim credit for successful u.s. operations.

russia was in a position where they were rather pathetically credit for the operations. you will recall that when russia announced this intervention about a year or so ago, they did so with the intent to unite a of services. the rest of the international .ommunity rebukes them what is russia's interest in syria? guest: they have several interests. russia is a longtime ally of syria.

it has always been a key ally. theia was concerned when united states intervened in formernd depose the dictator gaddafi. i think that experience for president putin has motivated him to say this cannot happen in ,yria, especially with an ally a long-standing ally there. russia has a naval base and wants to keep that naval base. it also shares and interest with interestates about groups. a key part of the agreement was to come together to work against the islamic state and against qaeda affiliate there.

that is the core interest. where the differences begin to occur is around the fate of al-assad. in night state said -- the united states said early that he should step aside. the russians see him as an ally. they do not see an alternative at this time. in their view, they need to back the government of syria. there is some shared interest in terms of the terrorist threat, but also differences in terms of the fate of al-assad. host: don, you are on, good morning. caller: good morning. how are you this morning? host: good. what are your questions? i'm trying to hold my temper down completely. and to step back and make this

observation. the united states has destabilized five countries over biggestausing the immigration and migrant problem in the world. the rand corporation has been aboutthis and talking anything about syria without talking about oil pipelines. i also want to bring up some historical facts. again, history is written by the winners most of the time. germany fell, the rand corporation is one of the biggest propaganda is against the truth here. host: that's a lot to unpack,

let's give the guest of chance to respond to that. tell a little bit of the viewers , if they don't know, what the rand corporation does. guest: we have been around for 60 years. we were established after world war ii. we engage, work with the u.s. government, to deal with also the public policy issues whether it be national security, health care, a wide range of issues. we are a think tank, independent, and we also have one of the most well-established public policy phd's in the country. we are also a university. , ih regard to the situation did not mention anything about oil, and had no plans to, with regard to syria. what we have tried to understand in syria is to reconcile two things. one is, and i think president

obama and the obama administration is trying to work is out as well. one is the real threat that we face from these terrorist groups in syria. the islamic state, which happens to be losing territory, and al qaeda, which has helped them grow at this time has proven that their capabilities are growing. we have seen the attacks in .urope we have seen, in the unite states, the sonic state inspired individuals and others, also getting attacks. that is a threat we need to deal with. the threat of refugees. this is a huge threat. refugees has 5 million . that is a qua country of 22 miln were 5 million people

have left. that has affected the politics of europe and also the neighbors in the grave way. the crisis is devastating. reconciling the deep humanitarian concerns with the strategic interests and national , this is aterests big challenge but the obama administration has tried to work through. host: we are talking about the suspension of talks between syria and russia. we are speaking with andrew parasiliti. in today's "wall street journal" there is an opinion piece that points out the fact that president obama and secretary of state john kerry have not always been on the same page when it comes to syria. it says it took 7.5 years, but the obama missed ration finally

awakening to the nature of vladimir putin's russia. it says that they should face of war crimes probe for bombing civilians in syria while the u.s. intelligence community announce its belief that the russians are behind cyberattacks on the democratic national committee. host: what is your reaction to that? guest: of course, secretary is frustrated. he worked very hard to try to work this agreement out. i do not know is i would say that the russian interests here

were not in syria, trying to work out a deal. what they are saying is, at the core of the deal for them, there was the request that the u.s. work with its allies in the region to separate those syrian opposition groups who we support and our allies support who are not al qaeda. that was at the core of the russian interests. some of those groups are d and working together in aleppo little right now. the russians one of them separated. their claim is that is not happening. secretary kerry wanted it to happen, but because of the situation on the ground, it was deeply complicated to pull off. in that case, while there may have been a shared interest, it did not happen. ist they are saying is that

why the agreement felt. -- failed. , (202)emocrats can call 748-8001. republicans, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 745-8002. calling.we have dug caller: your guest cannot be unaware of reports that there are factions in the pentagon led by ashton carter opposed to the deal. deliberately targeted the soldiers.cked syrian i would just like to say, we are not as stupid as you think we are. perhaps you would like to comment on that. the united states has

formally said it was a mistake that they bombed the syrian 17 twoon september secretary kerry said this at the united nations. the foreign minister said that conveyed a formal apology to the syrian government on their behalf. it is a war zone there and one of the reasons that one has to be very careful when considering in syria. next you have u.s. troops and russian troops on the ground and in the air. danger withrena of intense hostilities taking place. with regard to the statement about secretary carter, he is the secretary of defense. i think reports have indicated

abouthere is a wariness working with russia. many in the administration do not trust russia for the reasons we have discussed this morning because of russian activity in europe, accusations that russians hacked. what secretary kerry was trying to do with russia was find where the united states and russia given all ofgether the other problems. host: in today's "washington a story regarding another development with russia and syria. it says russia ratified a treaty on friday, making moscow the first permanent airbase in the middle east, a symbol of the kremlin's desire to project .trength overseas

host: how concerned should u.s. officials be at this development development?est: -- guest: russia has always had a base in syria. my own personal view is if it is to be an accommodation about youia with syria, first must acknowledge the long-standing interest there. when i look at the syrian case, what i tend to see is we have, in syria, both the popular uprising, islamic state and al ofda, differing interests

in regional parties, and this context, it is very difficult to find a solution. parties on the ground don't want to stop the fighting. they will tell you, you need to look for an international solution. that means they set the context diplomacy. without russia, there is no un security council being able to assist and help move the process forward. many people have criticized what secretary kerry has tried to do. when we had hostilities, people got relief, they got an opportunity to experience life away from the bombs.

the that collapses, this is result, what you are looking at today. all bleak. are the opportunity of working something out should not be ruled out because actually a may be the only way to end the fighting. host: peter on the independent line. good morning. guest: good morning. i would like to tell andrew, the big problem you will have now is this is just like the iraqi war and weapons of mass destruction. , thehe business deals american people are starting to

wake up. they were running wild until the russians got involved. what did the russians do? they bombed the oil supply. you have all of this military technology and we could not stop isis and the oil supply, but the russians could? host: let's give andrew parasiliti a chance to respond. guest: my reading of what is happening over the last 5.5 six in syria is that president obama has tried to steer a course that has kept the united states mostly out of the war. obviously, we have special forces on the ground, working

we support.ups that this is a battlefield, no question about that. the obama administration has been cautious. think, cautious with an eye towards what happened in iran. seeing a path in and where the terrorist threat thets, and trying to bring war to a close. i don't see what the u.s. government, and what the obama administration has done to this point, being one that looks to escalate syria. cautioushey have been and wary of escalation had have tried to work out what they believe is the best approach to

of syria and out try to bring the war to a close. that is what they were trying to do. said,said it john mccain if we do not stop assad now, we can only expect years of war. you agree with that assessment? what would happen if the idea is -- let me put it this way. the war into stop syria. there is no question about that. principle, ial would agree. every day the war goes on in fora, it is more tragedy the syrian people. end toyou bring about an the war? that is the question.

is ant is being proposed escalation of the war in the middle east, then i would say, what are the consequences of that? is that something the american people want and to what and? no question about a sox record assad's record. for the u.s. to take out assad ing al qaeda, i think it would be intensely wherecated in a region sometimes when you go in, it is much harder to get out. host: we have failed calling -- dale calling from arkansas. good morning. you are on. go ahead. caller: i just want to ask is we

were given enough attention by the refugee problem spreading out across the globe and the chance that somebody could take the opportunity, especially .ussia i know that russia kept a supply of smallpox which was basically eradicated, as was polio at one time. we have taken some refugees and i noticed that in northwest arkansas, in the last month or so, there have been about 400 cases of mumps show up out of nowhere. they say came from iowa. i kind of don't believe that. veteran from the cold war, and we work and back elated for

just about everything that you can think of. are we thinking about pursuing inoculations for civilians here in the united states and abroad? host: let's give andrew parasiliti a chance to respond to that. guest: i think he is right to draw attention to the refugee crisis. this is something that has affected europe and continues to do so. most studies will tell you that refugees, once they leave, it them 17 average of years to return and be repatriated. when the war of syria ends -- there is no sign of that at this time -- it will take them years to go back. of course, when you have these massive refugee camps, you have the potential for disease, children who need education. you have a generational

challenge of young people who grow up in a climate of war and conflict. and, a state of despair away the country. without getting education, health care, and proper treatment, i think that becomes a long-standing problem. when the war in syria comes to an end, the humanitarian crisis will continue to be a problem. host: a "new york times" piece points out one aspect of the russian-syrian relationship could be due to the timing of the u.s. election. it says that it offers the kremlin an opening in syria. it says the strategy of vladimir russia is to move aggressively in what he sees as a prime window of opportunity in

the four months between now and the presidential inauguration thatmr. putin inaugurates departing president obama will be able to intervene. do you agree? guest: i think the russian campaign and aleppo is in part timed with the u.s. election cycle. there is always a concern among international players when a new president comes in. that is an uncertainty and an unknown. the russian intervention, in a big way and military individual which began last year at this time has begun to escalate. they see an opportunity to a limit some of the armed groups.

if the russian and syrian government, also those involved here retake aleppo, what you will see is the syrian government will control most of the key cities in syria. that will be a major victory for the syrian government. it will not be the end of the war, but a major victory. i believe the article is accurate in terms of saying that is part of the calculation of intensifying the campaign at this time. host: kathleen is calling in on the democratic line. caller: good morning. how are you? host: good. you are on with andrew parasiliti caller:. caller:caller: i agree. we are not allies with russia. president putin does not have our interest at heart.

he will never agree with anything we do. hear your words. host: go ahead. relations,-russian from the very top, secretary kerry, secretary carter do not trust putin and relations are not good for all three regions we have discussed. the caller makes a good point. given the situation we are in thegiven the severity of crisis, what secretary kerry and

the obama mr. show were trying , given the environment of trying to enter the war, when you deal with international affairs, interests will almost never be perfectly aligned. it is the nature of the difficult -- a difficult situation. are trying to do is find where there may be a convergence of interest, dealing with the groups and moving the process ahead that way. it did not work out. it is a worthy effort. sometimes, when you have difficult overall relations with russia, if you can find targets of opportunity, we might be able in bringing to, a close one of the most severe conflicts happening in the world, if not the gravest

conflict we are facing, that i think it is worth the chance. host: what is iran's role in all of this? guest: iran is a key ally, theably the closest ally to syrian government. iran, like russia, is 100% behind assad in this campaign. it provides military council and advice, it provides forces, it provides them with forces. it's ally hezbollah is also fighting in syria. iran is very interested in supporting all assad. u.s.group is opposed by allies in the region, including saudi arabia, who are looking to confront not just assad, but

iranian influence. dan: up next, we have calling in from new jersey. caller: good morning. i was familiar with the founders corporation, and they strongly supported them and their two goals. one was anti-communism. another was support for israel and zionism. as the communist issue six to be ceaseser of concern, -- to be a matter of concern, the other is quite dominate with the invasion of iraq. the united states has created chaos.

the internal conflict of the middle east is a result of the .haos we created conceivables quite that the russians might be seeing the united states as in theing chaos and it -- middle east rather than any definitive purpose which may be good for israel, but from the , this isoint of view quite a problem. let's give andrew parasiliti a chance to unpack all of that. guest: israel is right on the border of syria. they are in a technical state of war with syria. obviously, while syria has always been a challenge for

israel under assad, the prospect syria, theilized prospect of radical groups taking over syria or a syria that is divided over factions is also a concern. a complex situation as well. ofalso mentioned, in terms russian interests, which we have discussed, there is also a .hared interest some of them are operating in syria. obviously, syria is a lot closer

united states.he those key points are worth considering. host: what is behind the difference in the reaction to israel? i was there one year ago, you could go right up to the border of syria in the golan heights. why the difference in approach there. would i think israel quiet border.in a concern anda hezbollah, which is again on the northern border, based in

lebanon, but the expansion of the influence in syria is also of deep concern for syria. host: we have vonn calling in. you are on the line. caller: i have a question, or hypothesis and question, how is the relation related to racism? and theyking online referred to obama as a derogatory term in russia. he is like very disrespected.

is it because of racism? i just want to know how much is due to racism? host: let's let andrew parasiliti respond. there is no doubt that the relationship has not worked. the caller is right that they tried to reset relations. another effort, looking out, realizing the interests were not perfectly aligned around the world, but to try to work out some type of arrangement so that you could avoid conflict and escalation, the situation we are in now, that did not happen. himself is ain complicated personality and to bothhe speaks

exploit what he consideres u.s. weakness in places. he also tried to find some common ground. the relation is very bad right now. i just don't know about the issues of whether racism, of whether that has to do with things. certainly the relationship is poor and probably irreparable. host: president putin and donald trump are fond of talking fondly of one another. it is the so-called bromance going on there. what is president putin's interest in praising one of the presence of candidates? is it to influence the elections? guest: if he is trying to influence the election for

donald trump, he is probably not helping because it is hard to imagine right now given the political climate in the united states that anything the russian president will save will be to the benefit of anyone he would to in any refer positive way. in terms of whether he is trying to come to kate the u.s. electoral process, and we have accusations of hacking, which may be even more deliver intervention -- deliberate intervention, that may also be in the strategy as well. host: next, we have joe on with andrew parasiliti. good morning. caller: i happen to agree with woe caller to callers ago -- t

callers ago. it looks like the united states, russia, and israel are working together against any real opposition to establish a real islamic state. not these bloodthirsty hoodlums that you call prices. realnstance, if the only -- sition with any potency and and or purse la the gas conl them terrorists, he cannot name a single time that they enter the united states soil or territories. this is an attempt to pretend that we are somehow supporting of rebel resistance to assad, while at the same time, we are making sure that there will never be an islamic republic

north of israel. host: let's let andrew parasiliti respond. guest: that is just something not correct. the united states and the united them a have designated terrorist organization. it is al qaeda's largest affiliate ever. al qaeda, we may recall, attacked the united states on 2001.ber to thousan 11, this is an affiliate. they brought so much tragedy and killing to the people of the middle east. united states now has brightly pointed out that this group in syria deserves american attention. that is why table worked

together against it. united states is not opposed to in the region. we work closely to other countries in the region. that is just something up the case. the saudi arabia and other islamic friends have suffered more than we have as a result of islamic state. host: i want to get your reaction at another russia related story in today's "wall street journal."

host: how much of a concern should this be to western officials? guest: i think it is a concern. having its influence in the rest of ukraine, and now, what you have reported with regard to what is happening in poland, i think this continues to be something that the united states will give a top priority to. the absolutes to lack of trust. when you see u.s. officials at the top expressing concern about what we are trying to do in syria, a lot of the reason for the skepticism was based on what is happening in europe and elsewhere. host: judy calling on the

republican line. you are on. we just have a couple of minutes left. say, i i just want to feel side for the people in syria, what is happening to them , but i just don't understand why all these people -- host: can you moved your television -- mute your television and listen to the phone? ok. we had some issues there. , director foriti the center for global risk and security at the rand corporation and former foreign policy ofisor to chuck hagel nebraska, thank you for joining us today. that's all for today's "washington journal." tomorrow, we will have ginger

gibson on. we will also have a discussion from charlie cook and stuart rothenberg on the debate anti- presence of campaign. also, be sure to tune in for newsmakers where ron angstrom of the chamber of congress will discuss the chamber's role in the 2016 election campaign. again, that is on sunday at 6:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. also, be sure to tune in for the debate tomorrow night. coverage of that will be can live at 7:30 tomorrow night. you can catch that on c-span as well as the c-span radio app. have a good saturday. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] ♪

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