-- state voting system. be sure to watch at 7:00 a.m. eastern. "rolle's a headline from call." "withonzalez writes, three weeks to go before election day, control of the senate is coming down to six states with close contests. " republican senator richard burr 's reelection race in north carolina as listed as close-oxygen. close-republican. coming up, we will bring you one of those close races where senate incumbent republican pat toomey faces challenger katie mcginty. later, aflorida and

debate in ohio with senator ron portman running against -- senator rob portman running against former governor ted strickland. pennsylvania senator pat toomey running against katie mcginty, who has worked in the clinton administration and in former governor tom wolfe's administration. this comes to us courtesy of kdkae tv in pittsburgh -- tv in pittsburgh. >> welcome to our debate between the candidates for u.s. senate in pennsylvania. rice.an rice -- i am ken histor pat toomey and democratic challenger katie mcginty. i will be joined by my kdka tv

colleagues, money and politics editor john delano -- the candidates will have one minute to answer a question and an additional 30 seconds for rebuttal. the candidates can jump in from time to time with follow-up questions. finally, each candidate will have two minutes for closing statements. up first, a two-part question. as a leader in your party, yes or no, do you support, as in will you vote for or records others to vote for your party's presidential nominee and what, if any, are specific issues that you disagree with your nominee? according to a coin flip, ms. mcginty, you go first. ms. mcginty: i do support hillary clinton because she will families, the same

reason i am in this campaign. is one issue. i don't think we can afford to close it. refused tomey has answer this question and won't tell the voters why he is still standing with donald trump. we will hear the senator say has disagreements with donald trump and that he is waiting to be persuaded. it withswers won't cut someone who has invited russia to be our allies, who has bragged about sexual assault. waiting to be persuaded is political speak for waiting for the next poll. the senator is the only person running for senate who has not told his constituents how he will vote. is sooomey: because katie extremely partisan, she might not grasp the idea that someone

might have trouble with a candidate in their own party. i have been willing to criticize donald trump because i think he is a badly flawed candidate. i also know that, if he were president, he would also signed legislation that would be productive. what i can't believe is that katie mcginty can't criticize anything about hillary clinton, including all of her lies. sayingt around the state she was a first -- a gold star family when she knew full well she went back for a graduate degree after coming out of high school. she ishat explains why willing to overlook the serial lies of a badly flawed candidate. ken: i will repeat the question, yes or no? i have not reached

a point where i can endorse donald trump. i do it knowledge that he would sign some legislation that would be constructive. i feel like i am in the same position as an awful lot of pennsylvanians. badly flawed candidates. katie mcginty, she can't even bring herself to acknowledge the incredible flaws of the candidate of her party. i think it is a simple and straightforward question that you have asked. i will work with a secretary clinton and a president clinton to bring good jobs back to pennsylvania and to grow income. again, the senator is the only person in the united states of america who has not level with his constituents on this simple question. i will yield the balance of my time back to the senator so we can answer that question. started the katie campaign with a lie that was called "pants on fire" by the

observers. another thing i have a hard time understanding is how the corruption of hillary is acceptable to katie mcginty. the corruption of the clinton foundation is unbelievable. we learn more and more about it on a daily basis from these late e-mails. ken: one last go at this. will you disclose to your constituents and voters how you will vote? sen. toomey: at a certain point, i probably will. but there is more we need to talk about on ethics. john: in your attack ads, each of you are referred to as millionaire pat toomey, millionaire katie mcginty. let's give you a chance to respond. your financial reports to confirm that you are millionaires. how did you become rich?

senator toomey, did you enrich yourself on wall street and then , while serving on the senate banking committee, co-own a bank that foreclose on people's homes and approve a law that helped the very banks like yours? is that how you got rich? sen. toomey: absolutely not. i worked in new york in the finance in the 1980's and let when i was 29 years old and launched a small business with my brothers. i am proud of the people we employed. what katie mcginty dead is funneled pennsylvania tax dollars to a foreign company to set up shop in pennsylvania, then they rewarded her with a lucrative board seat, they folded, the pennsylvania workers lost their jobs and taxpayers lost their money, but katie did quite well. she is a multimillionaire who enriched herself with this corporate revolving door. jon: so you did not get rich on

wall street? i work as hard as i could and certainly made some money. i was a kid in my 20's. i started at the bottom and when i left at 29, i wasn't too much higher than that. jon: ms. mcginty, did you grant money as a consultant -- as an official to companies that your husband was working for an event joined companies that you then joined and companies that you regulated? the allegations you articulated were false, misleading, untrue. i am proud of the work i have done in the private sector and business. that is to create jobs while protecting the environment. what the senator has done is different. our senator not only owned and started his own bank, he owned that bank while sitting on the

senate banking committee. on the banking committee, he pushed a totally anti-consumer agenda and the senator's own bank was engaged in such predatory behavior that it was illegal in 30-plus states. fashion,atory foreclosing on his own constituents without notice while the senator was making sure that we have an anti-consumer set of rules and regulations that help fraudulent bank practices like those his own bank was engaged in. sen. toomey: this is amazing. any foreclosures on the part of our bank were foreclosures on corporate loans. that is the case that katie mcginty is talking about. that when she funneled money to a firm that had her husband on the payroll, the state ethics commission

ruled unanimously that it was a violation of state ethics law. she went to court and the supreme court ruled that yes, in fact, it was a violation of state ethics laws. you have repeatedly had this ethical problem. it came up again with the spanish company she funneled taxpayer money to. taxpayers lost their money, workers lost their jobs. ms. mcginty: again, the senator is entitled to his rhetoric but not his own storyline. he has repeated the storyline throughout this campaign that has been 100% negative and repeatedly chastised by new's organizations for how false his claims and allegations are. the senator knows well that the projects he is talking about were not started by me, but started by former republican governor tom ridge, and that it is a project that has been

award-winning, done by a , terrific, nonprofit environmental group, the pennsylvania environmental council. >> let's move now to the supreme court. the republican-controlled senate has refused to consider the nomination of merrick garland to the supreme court. at the time of justice's death in february, president obama had nearly a full year left on his term. mcginty, do you believe that the president should get to nominate to bring court justices for the entire four-year term? ms. mcginty: the constitution doesn't have many enumerated responsibilities for a united states senator, but one of them is that you advise and consent, all hearings where the president nominates someone to stand on the bench. president to me has been part --

senator toomey has been part of that, forrtisan cabal the first time in our country's history, has refused a hearing to a nominee the president put forward. the president is not asking for a rubberstamp, but a hearing. i would stand up and make sure any nominee got that hearing. it is not the first on the senator has done this. he single-handedly held out for 400 days a perfectly qualified judge, judge restrepo. today, the president has nominated someone to be the first african-american woman to serve on the third circuit, right here from allegheny county, and the senator won't even allow her a hearing. lynne: senator, your response. you certainly pledged initially to keep that seat open until after the new term in january. do you believe that is in the

best interest of voters? in 2010, whenack i was a candidate for the u.s. senate, i wrote an op-ed saying why i would have supported judge sotomayor. i knew that i wouldn't agree with her on many things but i thought her record as a judge was solid, she had demonstrated restraint in the limited role of a judge, and i would have supported her. i have worked with bob casey, and senator casey and i have had 16 federal judges recruited, vented, and confirmed because we work together. most of those were democratic judges. i have worked with him and got that done. prior to justice scalia's passing, we had a supreme court that was roughly balance. sometimes it may decisions that conservatives like, other times it was decisions that liberals like, like upholding obamacare.

with the passage of justice scalia, the question arises, we only have a balanced court, in which way will it turn? the constitution is very clear that the power to seek a justice is a shared power between the president and the senate. the american people will have a say with virtue of who they elect as resident of the united states. ms. mcginty: again, the people of the country did speak, and they elected barack obama as their president. not only president's's opportunity but obligation to put candidates forward. acted -- thes constitution instructs the senate to a sure there are fair and thorough hearings of nominees. i thought it was interesting to hear the senator say that when he was running for office last

-- wroterote an ipad an op-ed that had bipartisan flavor. that is the last we have seen. sen. toomey: that is completely untrue because i worked with senator casey to get 16 judges confirmed, most of them democrats, more than any other state in the union other than california and new york. the fact that the hyper partisan person that i am concerned at how she will behave in the senate is katie mcginty. when she was chief of staff for governor tiled walls -- governor they couldn't proceed when she was in the room and they had to conduct negotiations with governor wolf or other staff members. is donald trump correct

when he blames don't trade deals for wreaking havoc in our economy? and he says that steel jobs could return to this region and manufacturing could drive jobs again. or, is he peddling false hope? sen. toomey: i visited the assembly line at the locomotive plants. i have been to meet with employees. folks that with the have worked making medical devices in southeastern and southwestern pennsylvania. each one of those areas depends on the ability to sell our products overseas. populationworld's lives somewhere else. i have backed agreements when they are supported by the pennsylvania farm bureau. when they open up foreign markets for our goods, i supported them. when cheating has happened, as the u.s.ned in steel,

steel brought this to my attention, i went to bat for them. that has been my approach, to support trade agreements that expand opportunities and open up markets for all workers. , this is an to tpp agreement that has been flawed. definitely read redirect you to the question. do you agree with donald trump that towns like ambridge, towns up and down the valley that been by manufacturing jobs, that policies can bring those towns back? sen. toomey: i believe the right policies can bring those back. one example, we had a tremendous advantage over the rest of our world with our energy. we have natural gas that is cheaper in pennsylvania that almost anywhere in the world. there are lots of heavy manufacturing injuries that are

energy intensive. the point is, if we take advantage of the opportunities we have -- it will be different jobs, different firms, and across the manufacturing spectrum, but we can absolutely have a strong recovery. policies will be stifling the energy sources that will be so vital to recovering manufacturing. ms. mcginty, what is your opinion of donald trump suggesting that there is hope for steel industries to be reborn in western pennsylvania? ms. mcginty: thanks, but i first want to address what the senator just that. i was proud to lead the charge to bring 3000 new jobs in the energy sector to pennsylvania, specifically manufacturing renewable energy equipment. the senator is well familiar with those jobs because, while i employed the full spectrum of our energy resources, he had an

issue that this was the fact -- that this was renewable energy rather than traditional. awayd the charge to take the tax incentives to help those jobs growth in our own state. i guess he has also been rewarded well for taking those renewable energy jobs away, because the senator happens to be one of the single largest recipients of big oil contributions in the u.s. senate. i think we have every opportunity to compete and win in manufacturing, and here is why. the days of manufacturing just being about cheap labor are gone. it is not skilled labor plus technology plus speed to market. that is a recipe for our sweet spot where we can compete and win. ken: yes or no, can better trade jobs -- better trade deals bring back steele johnson western pennsylvania? -- steel jobs in western

pennsylvania? ms. mcginty: i have opposed the tpp in pushing it through and fast tracking it. even the proponents say it will cost us 50,000 good manufacturing jobs a year. the senator flip-flopped on that recently but i think it is just like with donald trump, that a senator doesn't want to be straight about this. my view is, the rules matter, we need a level, fair playing field. when the playing field is fair, nobody can outcompete the american worker. the president flip-flopped on trade agreements was katie mcginty. she was all for nafta when the clintons said to be for nafta and when they said it is ok not to be for nafta anymore, they did a reversal. i supported a procedure to bring any trade agreement to congress for an up or down vote.

let's go back to her claim that she created thousands of jobs. this is her problem with the extreme version of how she approaches economics. it takes massive subsidies. , inayers have to subsidize this case, a spanish company to come in here. it still didn't work. higherforced to pay electric rates because companies are forced to buy inexpensive electricity in the only person who wins in this is katie mcginty. jon: i do want to follow up on the subject of energy and also fuels. we know that many folks in western pennsylvania are employed in fossil fuel industries. mcginty, are you engaged in a war on cold, believing -- more believing, as many

environmentalists do, that we to reduce reliance on fossil fuels including cold. what do you say those across the state in the fossil fuel industry that might think their jobs are at stake if you are elected senator. ms. mcginty: let me just say, of my sixo two brothers who made a living as coal miners. i started my career as a chemist inventing coal dumb suppressants. i am in favor of full use of energy resources. we have to tackle climate change. i go about doing that in a pro-jobs agenda. coal-fired power plants, some of those are 30-35% efficient. i would put people to work improving the efficiency of those plants. we get home that technology, manufacture that technology, and

put our people to work. this when i was secretary of environmental protection, where i was taking on the toughest problems withding climate change growing jobs as the solution. we look at the clean water problems in flint, michigan, and right here in pennsylvania. that is an opportunity to put people to work. we can't be a climate denier. we have to be honest about challenges, but let's create jobs in tackling them. as you know, there are many super pac's that are supporting fossil fuels who have engaged in lots of campaign ads. do you reject the science behind global warming? you maketed, will efforts to reduce dependence on fossil fuels?

objective viewy of the record shows that the surface temperature of the planet has risen. human activity has contributed to that, but it is a fact that we don't know how much human activity has contributed to it. the cost that katie mcginty and others is in the trillions of dollars. china and india will do nothing about it and the benefits, if there are any, are completely at -- completely negligible. the president of the united states, admits that there is a war on coal. i have met with these guys, seen them, i have looked in their eyes when they say, why is my own government destroyed my job, my career, my livelihood. coal is a low-cost, reliable, domestic source of energy. katie wants the epa to come in and have a regulatory power over

an industry that has regulation by the dep. ms. mcginty: this is what we have heard over decades, that if you approach environment, you are anti-jobs. i have found that to be not true. -- the senator has been realm rewarded for his position. putting people to work, that is what we should do. as it relates to national gap -- to natural gas, i have been the type of person to say let's regulate it, let's zone it. the senator wants to and taxes for corporations. nobody has been better rewarded for green energy programs and katie mcginty getting rewarded by the companies to which she finals pennsylvania tax dollars. this is what is wrong with

corporate crony capitalism where politicians think they ought to allocate resources and pick winners and losers. it is bad for the economy, counterproductive for economic growth. it drives of energy bills. we all clip -- we all pay higher energy rates that we should because of her tax plans. atne: i want to look community-police relationships. in many communities, the relationships are strained, at best. hillary clinton says part of the problem is about implicit the -- implicit bias. canloping a stereotype that influence actions or decisions in an unconscious manner. senator toomey, do you believe implicit bias is real and it is at the root of police-community relationships? i have seen as we

have all seen disturbing videos, young african-american man being shot under certain circumstances. anytime anybody does something wrong, whether the police or any other anfession, there needs to be investigation and people need to be held accountable. what i object to is the notion that the police are some kind of rogue racists causing violence. in fact, they protect us from that violence. the majority of them are good, hard-working men and women who protect us every day. i stood up against this false narrative that has maligned the police and katie mcginty has propagated that narrative. i will continue to stand up to the people who attacked us and 80 that is why i have been endorsed by every police organization that makes endorsement in pennsylvania including the philadelphia police in which ms. mcginty's father served. lynne: do i hear you saying that

you don't believe that implicit bias is real? sen. toomey: i am sure that occurs. but i don't think it is fair to characterize police generally as racists. lynne: ms. mcginty, just this past week, the association of police chiefs held a conference. they were introduced to a new method of training that is designed to de-escalate and create a tactical pause before engaging. you believe that retraining is a proper way to address this issue of bias? i want to start my response here, if i can come on a personal note. the senator has run on a campaign not only of his untrue ads, ads that i find deeply offensive and my nine brothers and sisters would as well.

there is only one of us on this who kissed-- stage her dad to buy in the morning, not knowing when he walked his beat as a police officer whether he would come home for dinner. suggested that i or my family would do anything other than revere law enforcement officers, it is acceptable. we need reforms -- we need resources in our community. my dad literally walked the beat. that is why i have proposed doubling community policing, where the police and the neighbors built bonds of trust and relationships. de-escalation techniques are an important part of that. senator toomey has introduced legislation aptly called punish the police, where he has tried to severely define the program and has voted to end the program

that gives law enforcement critical equipment. that is wrong. that endangers our safety and good public service like my sen. toomey: at sound like more of how katie was the first in her family to go to college. the fact of the matter is, the police in pennsylvania pay very close attention to the members of the u.s. senate and house. they have looked at my record, they have meant me, and every police organization that makes an endorsement, the fifth -- philadelphia police, even corrections officers unions, they have all endorsed me in this race. none of them have endorsed katie mcginty. ms. mcginty: that is not true. i have been endorsed by law enforcement organizations -- sen. toomey: which police -- ms. mcginty: i think it would be well for you to support police

officers by making sure they have the resources not to be unsafe on the streets. sen. toomey: and i have supported the grant programs to enable them to buy protective equipment. i introduced protective legislation, from denying them surplus military equipment, and everyone of them has endorsed me. you haven't been able to name anyone that has endorsed you. -- you only senator introduce that when you are running for reelection. your record as a member of our united states congress was to eliminate the program. sen. toomey: so you know better -- ms. mcginty: i will say that the senator also knows welk renee capitalism, as he has referred to. knows well, crony capitalism, as he has referred to. 80 dozen of his own constituents were ripped off by wells fargo. did the senator go to that for them? want to talk about that later, we will.

we need to pause for a quick break. we will continue with the u.s. senate debate with pat toomey and katie mcginty come after this. -- after this. welcome back to the debate between the candidates for u.s. senate from pennsylvania. incumbent republican senator pat toomey,, and democratic challenger katie mcginty. the next question is for ms. mcginty. both of you have supported at one time or another, new gun laws. what, in your opinion, is the most effective way to protect americans from mass shootings and other gun violence, without infringing upon the rights guaranteed by the second amendment, and something with a real, legitimate parents -- chance of passing? themcginty: i think we have chance to achieve bipartisan consensus, from commonsense ofsures that some 90% pennsylvanians, including sportsmen and gunowners, support. common sense like close the

background check loopholes. common sense, like do not allow terrorists to buy weapons of war in our country. i come from a family where my brothers were hunters. hunting guns in the house. --on't think this is senator toomey did a photo op about one piece of legislation. when it came to closing the loophole that allows terrorists to buy guns in our country, he not once, but twice. what i would do is bring people to the table, and stay at the table, respectfully, with different points of view. i think we can achieve consensus around those kind of common ground, commonsense measures. you toomey: ken: know the history of gun legislation after sandy hook and legislation. give me one realistic.

ms. mcginty: really, two of them. closing the background check loopholes for criminals and the mentally infirm. it only lost by five votes. yet, senator toomey says the senate has spoken, let's move on. work toertainly would close the loophole that allows terrorists to buy guns. ken: thank you. senator toomey. sen. toomey: i think the most painful meeting that i ever had, probably in my life, certainly senate,x years in the was with the parents of the sandy hook massacre. it was excruciating. one of the things i respect and admire so much about those parents is monday came to me, they were not asking to have guns confiscated from law-abiding citizens. they were not asking for a ban on firearms.

they asked, can we improve background checks? i know that would go over like a lead balloon with my party, but we introduced legislation that came closer than anything else in the senate. i'm a big believer in the second amendment. i think it is a personal, individual right, and an important one. i just don't think there's a conflict between the second amendment and a three minute background check. we have had votes three times when we introduce that. when we had a debate this summer about keeping terrorists from buying firearms, i supported three different versions of that to find common ground, including working with susan collins. , democraticds congresswoman, she has endorsed me in this campaign, because she has recognized my leadership, and the fact that it has to be bipartisan. ken: time is up. sen. toomey: katie's record of being bipartisan will not get us to common ground. ms. mcginty: it was the right

thing for joe manchin to lead the charge, and the senator to lend his name to close background check loopholes. that is why it was such a shame, that when it only failed by a couple of votes, the senator says, the senate has spoken, let's move on. tragedies inrrible san bernardino and orlando, the senator refused to reintroduce the bill, saying infamously, let democrats leave. this is one of those things where we have to respect the second amendment, and we have to respect grieving parents, including those of the pennsylvania 18-year-old young lady, who was mowed down in orlando. we can act on this, and i will. as i said, katie takes an extreme partisan deal on this, just like the reason she was excluded from budget negotiations in harrisburg. she will not be able to reach a common place. senator manchin and i worked really hard to bring as many people together as we could.

we introduced legislation repeatedly. we had three votes on it. when i saw an opportunity to have a background check on people on the no-fly list, i crafted the legislation to do that. when the democrats refuse to help, i worked with susan collins to get that done. i will continue to defend the second amendment of law-abiding try tos, but i will also get guns out of the hands of filing criminals, dangerously mentally ill people, and people on the no fly list. jon: obamacare means different things to different people. it has delivered health insurance to over 15 million uninsured through private insurance plans, and expanded medicaid. it has also raised costs. it has outlined exclusions for pre-existing conditions like cancer and, it has kept young people on their parents' insurance until age 26. if you repeal obama care, you were people everything, the good and the bad.

-- senator toomey, what do you like, what do you not like, and what would you change in obamacare if elected to another term? let's remember all the false promises made about obama care. we were told, if you like your insurance, you can keep it. we weretold that while they were systematically disqualifying whole categories. we were told, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. we were told that, even though we knew that the replacement plans would exclude all kinds of doctors. we were told we would save $2500 per family on average. all completely untrue. costs have gone through the roof, options have collapsed. deductibles have gone up. it has been the disaster i was afraid it could be. a portion of the economy in the hands of washington bureaucrats. around theen sitting kitchen table should be making decisions about their family's

health care, not bureaucrats in washington. all the tax increases and bedded in it, the medical device plans, a whole another wrath of thate-class tax increases katie mcginty supports, we need to go in another direction. i will have a transition for people currently in obamacare. a transit -- transition to a competitive, multi-marketplace across state lines. we need to bring out some of the excess cost, like excessive litigation. obamacareny part of that you like? there are some features that are encouraging. for one, there has been some encouragement that we move health care in a direction, generally speaking, we're here it is treated comprehensively, and not individual treatment for services. of that is a very small part obama care. generally speaking, it is a

disaster, and it cannot be fixed because it is flawed at the core. question,cginty, same what would you like -- what do you like about obamacare? ms. mcginty: we have to bring down the cost. the cost of down prescription drugs. under the law, we are not cost.d to negotiate the that is wrong. no other country in the world does that. we need transparency, so that consumers know before they have a procedure what it is going to cost. you would almost think the senator was only planning to go to washington. he has been in washington for 18 years, with a republican majority. he's got nothing done on this critical issue. i do disagree. i don't think we should put the insurance companies back in charge, said that they can charge women more than men. so that they can kick you off your insurance if you have a pre-existing condition or if you, have a child with a serious

and hits a lifelong cap in terms of coverage. that is wrong. i would work to get the cost down, and a commonsense way. that is the agenda, to make sure we have affordable -- jon: but ms. mcginty, you like everything about obamacare? ms. mcginty: i do not like that we are precluded from negotiating the cost and price of prescription drugs. that is absolutely wrong. i think we need to make sure there is affordability and choice in health care. what i know for sure is that the senator has been there for 18 years, and have we seen him take on the insurance companies? no. have we seen him take on prescription drug companies? no. i will. heardoomey: what you just his katie mcginty advocating that we have even more government control, and it is the government that messed this up. these are the people who couldn't roll out a website.

it was a disaster. everything about them has been much a disaster. about 40% of pennsylvanians have a grand total of one choice in the individual exchange market. what kind of choices that? what kind of competition is that? this is a failure. we need to go in a completely different direction. what katie mcginty wants to do is expand government control, have a single system, have the government dictate prices. jon: ms. mcginty, you get the last word. helpcginty: i was proud to expand medicaid in pennsylvania. we have 625,000 people covered, and it was a great deal for taxpayers. saving $500 million a year. here's what would be a disaster. let's take one piece of what we are caught -- talking about here. i come from a family where we have seen and we know what the heartbreak of addiction looks like. under this law that senator toomey would repeal, we finally , if you have a mental

or behavioral health problem, that it would be covered. the medicaid expansion that the senator would take away, 66,000 pennsylvanians with mental and behavioral health challenges now have health care. i think that is the right thing to do. we don't just take it away, but yes, i will stand up to the companies to take down the cost. jon: thank you. lynne: i want to continue the conversation about cost, but i want to look at the cost of this campaign. this senate race is the most expensive in the country, last week the amount already exceeded $60 million. senator toomey has already said he does not believe in spending limits. ms. mcginty, i would like to ask you, what do you propose is the best way to take money out of politics? ms. mcginty: i appreciate the question. i think it is absolutely urgent. i am proud to be endorsed by an

end citizens called united. it is 100% dedicated to getting that money out of politics, overturning citizens united, that has led this flood of dark, secret money into our politics. in a democracy, there's no room for secret checks and secret money. i would help lead the charge to united, and iens would also go further. i think it is time for us to make it easier for people to be engaged in their political system, and to vote, with early voting, or same-day voting and registration. restoring the voting rights act, for example. senator toomey had a chance, but he voted against overturning citizens united. allas voted for, allowing this dark money, like the koch brothers money. talk about partisan. the senator has 100% voting record with the unaccountable koch brothers.

that is not democracy in action, that is crony capitalism. lynne: senator toomey. sen. toomey: there has been an unbelievable amount of negative campaign ads. i'm staggered by the amount of money spent in this race. and we know it, it's not over yet. it is getting hard to watch tv. this is part of the reason why i suggested katie mcginty and i have five debates. we would have a chance to go deeper into the issues than these 32nd sound bites. katie refused. she insisted we have no more than two. she would not do the other three debates. i have always preferred more transparency in the system. the simple it to do this is to have all this money got to candidates, and let the candidates be responsible and accountable, and require disclosure. that is what i think would be a much better approach. but the people i katie mcginty, who want to overturn citizens united, let's be clear about what this is about. it was a not-for-profit

corporation that wanted to allow people to buy a documentary video about hillary clinton in the last campaign. the government's position, which katie holmes, is the government should be able to band that and for that it. disallow it. the government's argument was they should be able to bee -- ban books if they are about politics or politicians. the democratic senators that katie agrees with, they had a vote to amend the first amendment. the rewrite the first amendment like it hasn't served as theuately -- a sad look of -- us adequately. lynne: we will give ms. mcginty the chance to respond. ms. mcginty: the senator had the chance to vote to get the dark, secret money out of politics, and he voted no. i not only will vote yes, but i will lead the effort so we genuinely bring people's voices back to the center of our politics and democracy. lynne: thank you.

again, this -- sen. toomey: again, this comes down to whether you think politicians should be able to control speech. that is what katie mcginty supports. i think that is outrageous. if the first amendment is for anything, it is to get people the power to criticize their politicians. as with the first amendment is about. it is about personal freedom and the freedom to express your position, whether you like them or not. would giveat we congress the power to control political speech is a terrible idea, and i'm not for it. ken: another click break -- quick break. more of this debate in a moment. welcome back to the u.s. senate debate. we got right back to the questions. you know donald trump has expressed concerns that this election in pennsylvania is going to be rigged. he said he would watch pennsylvania, go down to certain

areas, watch and study, and make sure people don't vote five times. do you share this concern, and based on what evidence, if so? sen. toomey: let me be very clear about this. this is a very important question. maybe one of the most important of the evening. years, we have0 had the most successful, most vibrant republic in the history of the world. it depends, to a large degree, on the american people having confidence in the outcome of our elections. our elections may not always be completely perfect, but they are legitimate. they have integrity. everyone needs to expect the outcome. -- respect the outcome. i don't know how this race, the president's race, or any other race will come out, but we need to respect the outcome. that will be necessary to pull us all together on november 9, the day after the election. ms. mcginty: thank you. i think it is a very dangerous and reckless allegation and suggestion that donald trump has been making.

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district this debate was held at the university of central florida, and comes courtesy of wf tv channel nine in orlando. that evening, i am jonathan karl. we are here at the university of central florida for this year's first debate between republican senator marco rubio, and democratic congressman patrick murphy. tonight's debate is brought to in orlando, in partnership with abc news and political florida. i will be moderating along with the panelists from wftv, and politicoto from florida. let me explain the rules. there will be questions. you will have one minute, 30 seconds to respond, and then 30 seconds for a rebuttal. the candidates are not allowed to ask questions of each other. that is something you to agree to. theill be doing questioning.

congressman murphy. thank you.: it is great to be here this evening. i was born and raised in the florida keys. andt my start as an auditor cpa. i decided to get started in politics because i was tired of the name-calling, the bickering. i'm proud of my accomplishments. to help the legislation lower flood insurance rates. proud of the provisions i passed on the house intelligence committee to upkeep this country. that is exactly why i've been ranked as one of the most independent members of congress, because i work with anybody to solve a problem. you compare that to my opponent, marco rubio, who tells us he doesn't even like the job. which explains why he has the worst voting record of any citizen in florida in nearly 50 years -- any senator in florida in nearly 50 years, and still has not served in a full term. if that's not bad enough, he

doubled down on his endorsement of donald trump, showing he will continue to put his own political agenda in front of what is best for florida. i believe we can do more. that is right -- why am running to be senator of florida. 18 years ago tonight, i married my wife. it was the best decision i have ever made. i want to thank her for working alongside me in public service. i am the son of a bartender and a maid. country.debt to this i have chosen to replace some of it through public service. senate.x years in the you will hear about the numerous accomplishments am real things i

have done, not just letters, but laws we have passed. i invite you to compare that to patrick murphy's record in congress. i look forward to that debate tonight. congressman murphy, hillary clinton's campaign has been hampered by concerns over her use of a private e-mail server. we had a recent transcript leaked showing clinton saying, it is important for politicians to have a public and private position on issues. you said you trust her 100%. most floridians don't. why should they trust you given your unqualified confidence in a presidential candidate that six

out of 10 americans say they do not trust? rep. murphy: secretary clinton has already apologized for what she did. she regrets that decision. that is a lot more you can say about donald trump. i trust secretary clinton with the nuclear codes. , heo rubio made it clear said he does not trust donald trump with the nuclear codes. i do not know what has changed from now until then. secretary clinton is as qualified as anybody we have ever had. she will hit the ground running on day one. donald trump is as unqualified as anybody we have ever had for this office, bragging about sexually assaulting women. to me and i do not understand how senator rubio can look himself in the mirror and still stand by donald trump

side -- donald trump's side. not even tim kaine is willing to say that and he is her running mate. i do not trust either one of them. senator is to.s. represent their state and to fight and uphold and defend the constitution of the united states and i am prepared to do that no matter who was elected to the presidency's. other to a less on the stage, there is only one person -- if you cannot stand up to donald trump as a candidate, how will you stand up to him as the president of the united states?

embargo,olated the something you care a lot about. and you still stand by his side. he said that mexicans are rapists and criminals. he makes fun of disabled people and veterans. you continue to stand by his side. 16 u.s. senators to not only disavowed donald trump, but to unendorsed him and you double down on your endorsement. where is the courage? you will continue to put your own clinical ambition in front of what is best -- your own political ambition in front of what is best for florida. sen. rubio: there is only one person on the stage tonight who has ever run against donald trump -- and that was me. >> let's turn to your party's

nominee. trump'stioned donald sanity. you called him a con man and a lunatic. you said he is "the most vulgar person ever to aspire to the presidency." and that was months ago. as congressman murphy has alluded to, at least 10 women have come forward to allege they have been inappropriately waysed or worse i trump in -- by trump in ways he described. how do you explain to your son and daughters why you believe that a man who posted of committing sexual assault should be president of the united states of america? it is not just my children. i feel terrible for the young people across america.

this is the first time i am ever going to vote and what they have before them are two deeply flawed candidates. this is not the most inspirational choice. there is no doubt there are a lot of things i disagree with and i have taken him on when he says things that are wrong on policy. continue to do so. the other party has nominated someone who has violated federal law. with classified information. they nominated someone to the family of four brave americans. on this very day, it was revealed, her state department was trying to get the fbi to unclassified certain documents sober e-mails would be

compliant. -- so her e-mails would be compliant. this election is a disturbing choice between someone i disagree with on many things and someone i disagree with on virtually everything. it is so important our next u.s. senator is someone willing to stand up and take on whoever the next president is. rep. murphy: is there anything that donald trump could say or do that would cause you to rethink your decision to support him to be president? sen. rubio: of course. what a lot of things hillary clinton stands for and does. it is clear donald is not my first choice or my 10th choice. 14 million voters have chose differently. one of the reasons i changed my mind and ran for reelection, no matter who wins this election,

you will need people in the united states senate willing to stand up to the president of the united states. i am the one -- the only one running who will. congressman murphy has not once broken with the nominee of his party. he has not once condemned her or broken with her on any of her behaviors. rep. murphy: it is disturbing to hear my opponent say this after it came out that donald trump had been taking advantage of women, he is a serial abuser. senator rubio heated something tweeted something out. this is not just a binary choice. people have the courage to stand up to do what is best. you do have to look your children in the eye and explain this position.

nextitician thinks of the election. a statesman thinks of the next generation. you have to dig inside and think about the consequences of what we are doing, what we are saying, what are candidates represent -- what our candidates represent. i do not own blinders and just vote. i do what i think is best. sen. rubio: i think about the next generation. i am thinking about my four children, which is why i do not want to see hillary clinton become the next president. i am thinking about my children because of the iran deal, which this president put in place and you wholeheartedly support. the iran deal delivered hundreds of millions of dollars in cash

to the ayatollah in iran. you support a deal you said that would lead to peace in our time. the last person who said that has regretted it for over 80 years. it will lead to energy -- it will lead to a nuclear iran. that is the future i am concerned about. >> you said you do not trust donald trump with the nuclear codes. use it on the intelligence committee -- use it on the intelligence committee. he wants to be buddies with vladimir. -- vladimir putin. >> it is important when national security at stake. if any of your staff had ever done what hillary clinton did, they would have been fired and prosecuted.

and you still stand with her. i do not trust hillary clinton with classified information. she has proven she cannot handle it. rep. murphy: you trust donald trump with classified information? [laughter] sen. rubio: i have already admitted to you. are two less than ideal options we have for this country. they are deeply flawed candidates. it is so important we have a candidate for the senate who will stand up to these people. the only one who has stood up to both of these people is me. congressman murphy thinks hillary clinton can do no wrong. >> you said you don't trust donald trump with the nuclear codes because of his temperament.

do you not trust hillary clinton? sen. rubio: i do not trust hillary clinton on foreign policy. i do not trust her on foreign policy because she is the author of the russian reset. her on foreign policy because she supports the iran deal him at delivering billions and billions of dollars to a radical nation led by an who has threatened to use nuclear weapons against the state of israel. murphy, youan called for gun buyers to be checked against the terrorist watchlist. the pulse nightclub list.r was not on this some worry that it would racially profile lawful

citizens. can you explain what attacks this would have stopped? rep. murphy: it is so important that we talk about this. we cannot let these tragedies become the new norm. one of chance to meet the bravest people i have ever met. her son christopher was killed shooting.se she is found the courage to stand up and look for solutions. we should be able to stand with her for solutions. we must close the terrorist loophole, expand background checks to ensure these weapons are not getting in the wrong hands. we should be investing more in mental health. these are things supported by the vast majority of americans, the vast majority of gun owners.

marco rubio has taken millions and millions from the gun lobby and doing their bidding in the u.s. senate. his legislation would do nothing to prevent these acts of violence from happening again. my opinion has continued to stand against every sensible piece of legislation -- my opponent has continued to stand against every sensible piece of legislation. it is unconscionable to me that a suspected terrorist can walk into a gun store, buy a weapon that day, and walk out with it. senator rubio is too concerned with his next election, next presidential bid and too worried about his special-interest donors. sen. rubio: we are here in orlando today. i do not think there is any

doubt all of us were heartbroken . the stories of the people who , i recognizeves people i know in my family. let's not forget what happened, it it was not a random act of violence. it was a terror attack, a jihadist who pledged allegiance to isis. my law was not written by the nra. it was written by my staffers. it would say that if you have been investigated for terror anytime in the last decade and you try to buy a gun, that sale will be suspended and the fbi will be notified. if they find that you are up to a plan on terror, they can immediately arrest you. the law i wrote has a chance of

passing. i get laws passed and things done. he does not. i do not think the senator knows what his bill does. -- rep. murphy: i do not think the senator knows what his bill does. weree fbi knew they terrorists, they would be in jail. your bill does nothing and it is a sham. it is shameful that you sit here in front of orlando and say you are trying to do something. the audacity you have to say that you decided to run for the senate after this nightclub shooting and you have been one of the most anti-gay senators in the country. .en. rubio: excuse me what is shameful is your effort to politicize the terrible tragedy. it was an attack by radical islamic terrorist.

you support these devastating cuts to the military. anyone who has been investigated for terror -- the reason why he was able to buy a weapon, he was no longer under active investigation. if you are suspected of terror in the last decade, the fbi will be notified that you've gone into by a gun and will have the opportunity to stop that sale. it does have due process protection. there are people in this country who wind up on those lists that end up being cleared. including a journalist at the weekly standard. topic of whathe happened -- let's stay on the topic of what happened at pulse. it was latin night. most of the victims were hispanic. some survivors and some family

members spoke to me personally about being afraid to ask for help for fear of being deported. people working across our state, including students at this university, sure those same fears. some are terrified about what will happen in november. when it comes to immigration reform, what do you say to latinos who say you could have made something happen in your first term? office embedded to staffers for over a month to help numerous people. directorned with the of the fbi because there was an issue in getting aid because the fbi was involved. it impeded the ability to deliver a. -- deliver aid.

immigration is not something i read about in a book. issue i discovered four weeks ago. my parents were immigrants, my grandparents were immigrants. i know people, children included, who are in this country out of status. they're goingess through. i want to fix the problem. we cannot fix it with a one-size-fits-all bill. to prove told be the american people that illegal immigration is under control. the second step would be to modernize our legal immigration system so that it is not bureaucratic. that once we have done those two things, the enormous majority of americans, of

floridians, and the republicans would support something very reasonable for people who are not criminals. rep. murphy: after hearing your more again, it is even shocking that you have turned your back on those who trusted you the most. we are a nation of immigrants. he used to be the champion, part of the gang of eight. and then what happened? you decided to run for president and so you flip-flopped on that issue. you no longer support those dreamers. you have doubled down on your endorsement of donald trump, the man who wants to build a wall? it is shocking you continue to put your own political ambition in front of what is best for florida. sen. rubio: you have never even

been involved in immigration reform. you only started talking about it for weeks ago. i am not sure if you have informed people, you voted for the homeland security bill to restart deportation for dreamers. in december of 2011, you changed your name, your party, and moved from south beach to west palm beach. that is not a flip-flop. that is a metamorphosis. rep. murphy: you are the one who left florida and spent all of your time in iowa and new hampshire. you have never even met the mayor of tallahassee or tampa. ago, you did vote for a homeland security bill which would have opened the door to the deportation of dreamers. how do you explain your actions then and your words now?

sen. rubio: he is running for senate. [laughter] rep. murphy: i believe in reformensive immigration . we have to make sure there is a pathway to citizenship, to make sure they have that pathway. they have to pay their back thes and make sure there is pathway. we have to make sure that students do not get deported the day after they graduate. >> you support the affordable care act. people have seen their premiums rise. people were told they could keep their plans and they lost their plans. what do you say to those people and what do you propose to do about this problem? >> the affordable care act was a huge step forward for this country. but it is not perfect.

there are things we can do to improve it. .ou think of my opponent he has spent the last six years in the senate trying to undermine that legislation. he wants to take us back to the days where women could be charged more than men just for being women. insurance companies could deny you coverage if you have pre-existing conditions. they could drop you if you got sick. that is where senator rubio wants to take us back to. expanding medicaid would be .00,000 people in florida alone you have to be willing to work across the aisle, find the common ground. there is no legislation in washington that is ever perfect. why don't we work for florida? work to find that common ground and get things done?

sen. rubio: to say that obamacare has some problems is the equivalent of saying the titanic had some problems. people are losing their coverage. million weeks, half a floridians will lose their coverage again. it is collapsing under its own weight. -- they putfort fund to usere a your taxpayer money to bail out companies. >> when you were in the florida legislature, ford remained a state -- florida remained a state with one of the highest uninsured rates. how can you criticize obamacare when your solutions have failed? sen. rubio: the governor undermine the effort for two years. plan tod a specific

replace obamacare. i have offered a detailed plan. every american will have tax-free money from their employer, provided health insurance, or have a refundable tax credit to purchase health insurance from any company in america. >> we have to take a quick break. we will be right back. ♪ >> welcome back to the florida senate debate. senator rubio, you had the worst attendance record in terms of votes of any of your colleagues in the senate in 2015 and over the past year, you have missed a third of all rollcall votes. given that voting record, why should the voters of florida

send you back to the senate, especially given this time, you are not even willing to promise to serve your full-term? sen. rubio: i did not like missing votes. president because i do but believe this country is heading in the wrong -- i deeply believe this country is heading in the wrong direction. i truly believe if we continue on the road we are on right now, we will be the first americans that leave our children worse off than ourselves. as far as my commitment to the office, that is proven by the results i have gotten for the state and country. on foreign affairs, i passed a bipartisan law that takes down human trafficking. .hat sanctioned hezbollah they attacked me by name. i passed sanctions on the dictatorship in venezuela.

i passed the v.a. accountability act. we passed the foreign aid transparency act. these are actual achievements. they prove my commitment to the job and to the state and my commitment to my service in the senate. i invite the voters to compare that with congressman murphy's record. he does not have a single signature achievement, not a single law he has sponsored has been signed into law by the president of his own party. rep. murphy: can i clear that up? cosponsored two pieces of legislation that of past the house, legislation that will help our citrus farmers, folks dealing with -- citrus farmers.

it will help lower flood insurance rates. i am proud of my accomplishments. proud of what i was able to do in the minority in the u.s. congress. what about the $2 billion i was able to reach across the aisle and find some friends to work with an authorized to help fund the cleanup efforts for the everglades? the intelligence provisions that help protect this country. will you join me tonight and signing a six-year pledge that you are committed to serving this office? askingave a rule of not each other questions. sen. rubio: i will serve six years in the senate, god willing. being in the minority is not an excuse. europe it was alan grayson, someone -- europe's tenant was opponentson -- your

was alan grayson, who was an interesting guy. convinced after years of opposition the chairman of the water committee to change his mind and support the everglades planning project. i got more done for the everglades in one day rep. murphy:. are you serious? that is laughable. sen. rubio: he was the chairman of the committee. you have someone who was a leading opponent of the everglades planning project and i spent two years talking to him and working with him on it. he featured the everglades as one of the reasons why we needed to pass the water bill. when your colleagues in the senate trust you, listen to you, that is how you get things done. your colleagues do not trust

you and you are not effective. we cannot afford to have someone in this and at does not know how to get things done. promising to fill all six years of your term? sen. rubio: god willing. lot done,ng to get a god willing, over the next six years. >> this means you are not running for president? sen. rubio: i will be senator .ver the next six years the everglades is personal. we created extraordinary memories for me and my family. i want to ensure that 20 or 30

years ago, -- from now, my sons and daughters can have the same memories. >> you described yourself as a small business owner. your company is a subsidiary of a billion-dollar construction firm founded by your father. you call yourself a certified look accountant but you have not been a cpa in florida. your website said you have two degrees from the university of miami when you only had one. have you misled floridians about your experience? rep. murphy: absolutely not. an independent fact checking agency has already debunked these accusations. the last six attacks marco rubio and his special interest friends have lobbed at me have all been debunked. i am a cpa, i got my license in 2009.

i am one of nine cpas in the house of representatives right now. we could probably use a few more cpas. i am proud of my small business experience. i will continue to do what i can to reach across the aisle and solve problems and continue to cpa and akground as a small business owner. i am happy to put my resume up against marco rubio, a career politician and lobbyist. sen. rubio: those are not my facts. one of the most respected investigative reporters in the state. you did not run saying you were a cpa. a license to work as a cpa in florida.

contract had a single to clean up the gulf of mexico. the company was only open for five months. dual degreehave a from the university of miami because they do not give dual degrees. why would someone make something up about the record? because they do not have a real one to talk about. he has yet to cite a single signature achievement. you are not some outsider. you are sitting congressman. we are 40 minutes into this debate and you cannot tell us a single signature achievement. rep. murphy: i feel bad for you, how little you know about business. the cpa is the same in all 50 states. i understand what small business owners are going through, how tough it is to start a business.

i believe we can do more to help those small business owners. that is exactly why i have done so much to reach across the aisle to help solve these problems, help get things done for our country. you cannot even commit to serving a full term. sen. rubio: that is aligned you practice before saying what i said today. florida, we have laws and it says you cannot work as a cpa in florida if you do not have a florida cpa license. if you worked as a cpa, you did so illegally. family,respect to your your father has an excellent reputation, it is not that hard to open a small business when your dad opens it for you. rep. murphy: i never tried to hide that. the name of the company was

coastal environmental. you're trying to make something up, make it as if -- sen. rubio: i am not the one making things up. >> you talk about what you are and what you are not. .ou are not a scientist $400 billion in property is at risk because of rising seas and on a dry day, streets in south florida have flooded. that happen just yesterday. what are you going to do to protect floridians from what is an undeniable threat to our coastline? sen. rubio: first of all, what happened yesterday on miami beach was the result of king tied. -- king tide. if the levels are rising, we should spend money to mitigate

that. we funded millions of dollars of projects to prevent flooding. the community i live in used to flood. as a policy maker, you have to show me whether the laws you want me to pass will actually impact the issue you're raising. we want you to pass these laws on carbon emission. seamany inches of c rise -- rise will this prevent? nothing, but this will set a good example for the world. it will have a devastating impact on our economy. that is not the approach i want to take. mitigation, and i want this country to have an all of the above energy strategy.

irresponsible not to say we will fully utilize natural gas and oil and nuclear energy and clean coal technology . we should have the most diverse possible.set >> national geographic named miami as the number one city in the world to be impacted by climate change. senator rubio said he is not a scientist. look out your window. 2-3 inches of saltwater on the roads right now. go down to the florida keys, the reefs are dying. come to my district, algae, the most biologically diverse

estuary in the country. note to the panhandle and you will see -- go to the panhandle and you will see oysters dying. on the issue of the oyster men, georgia is stealing our water. us -- we will make georgia give us our water and they will pay for it. , -- none ofbee those to have anything to do with rising sea levels. you are neither a scientist nor a cpa. >> republicans have referred to you as privileged patrick. as someone who benefited from a financially secure upbringing, how can you address the concerns of the working poor?

rep. murphy: everyone knows who my dad is. i believe an attack on my dad is an attack on the american dream. he never graduated college. he was a union carpenter. off everyhis butt single day and he taught me the value of hard work. my first job was not in an air-conditioned job. my first job was as a day laborer. i never forgot the value of hard work. something my opponent did forget. footve a senator with one out the door who will not show up to work. think about what is at stake. we can do so much more but you have to show up to work. you cannot be in the pocket of special interest groups. when he does show up, he always votes with the koch brothers.

if we are going to be serious about solving problems, you have to be willing to show up. get things done. i have something to show for my hard work. going back to my time in the florida legislature, property taxes in florida are lower the cause of the work we did. curriculum inhool the state when i was speaker and we did it without common core. , iing my time in the senate worked with a democrat from new hampshire to leverage u.s. foreign aid to pressure foreign countries to ensure little girls have birth certificates so they are not trafficked into slavery.

if we saved one little girl from slavery, that is meaningful work. you do not have a single bill you can cite. >> you told me earlier in the year you opposed abortion for women infected with the gun -- infected with zika. your opponent used your words in an ad and you came out with your own spanish-language ad that said his characterization was false. i want to know what your position really is. sen. rubio:'s ad says i want to take reproductive rights away from women and that is false. on the issue of abortion, it is not an easy issue. 16-year-old ona the crisis -- with a crisis pregnancy. it is a difficult issue because

it involves two competing rights . the right of a woman. in this case, there is another right, the right of an unborn child to live. err, i will err on the side of life. this is not an issue of politics. it is something i feel deeply and passionately about. i respect people who have reached a different conclusion. this is how i passionately feel. think it'st i do outrageous. like patrick murphy and hillary clinton believe no illegal. should be

what i do not understand is how come the media never plans to these extremist positions -- never plans to these extremist positions on the other side? rep. murphy: my opponent does not support the right to choose in the case of rape or incest or zika. my opponent supports the defunding of planned parenthood. he supported legislation that was later known as the scarlet letter. imagine a woman, a victim of toe taking a newspaper ad her sexualto reveal

history. sen. rubio: no one knew what the law would do. this is the third time tonight dot you have implied that i not respect women. -- look at my record, look at the things i have done. some of these issues are difficult issues. >> let's talk about donald trump again. think about who my opponent has endorsed to be the next president. bragging about sexually assaulting women. i do not need to hear a lecture from you about women's rights. florida are paid about 85% of what a man makes and you

think that is a waste of time. we can domore and better. i believe you have to show up to get things done. sen. rubio: congressman murphy, the women in your office make 85% of what men do. of course, i am for equal pay for women. i have two girls that are 16 and 14. the law you are talking about would have done nothing. suppose you are a small business, or any business, and you have two excellent employees. the woman is much better than a man. another company tries to hire her away and you try to give her a raise to keep her, you cannot unless you give the man a raise. consequencesnded that would not have achieved 30 and a. pay.rity in

>> there has been a lot of questions about the legitimacy of this election. donald trump has said this election is absolutely being rigged. he is talking not just about media coverage, but saying there is voter fraud throughout the country. do you have faith in the democratic process in the state and in this country and do you believe the voters of florida should have faith in the results on november 8? sen. rubio: absolutely. this election is not being rigged. we have 67 counties in the state, each of which conduct their own elections. the governor of the state of florida is a republican who said people who run the division of elections.

there is no evidence behind any of us. do i believe people should have confidence? yes. this is a state that literally has millions of people who came here because they could not vote in the nation of their birth. rep. murphy: donald trump said it himself. he is unhinged now. he will stop at nothing -- unshackled, unhinged. he was counting at this point -- who is counting at this point? we do respect the election process. we do have fair elections where people are going to show up. senator rubio and i will tell you we will accept the results of this election. unfortunately, you are still standing by donald trump side and that is shameful. -- wordster when he is

matter when it is the presidential nominee. >> on the question of cuba, congressman, you have praised obama's opening to cuba. given the continued human rights abuses on the island, do you support lifting the u.s. embargo on cuba? support the i do president's attempts to normalize relations with cuba. i have cousins and aunts who are cuban. . understand it is a very personal issue for many people. we have had over 50 years of a failed policy that has not worked. let's give the regime what they fear the most, and that is capitalism. i do support targeted sanctions

on the bad actors in the regime. sen. rubio: i am not against changes in policy toward cuba. good the opening to cuba is going. more people are in jail today than before the steel. all 57 people have been rearrested at least once. they are still harboring fugitives. this deal is not working out for anyone except castro and his cronies. >> we turn to closing statements. rep. murphy: thank you for moderating and thank you for being here. i am proud of what i have accomplished over the last four

years, proud of the cuts i was able to prevent from medicare, proud of the legislation i passed to lower flood insurance rates. . will continue to show up i am proud of my 97% voting record. marco rubio, the worst voting record of any senator from florida in nearly 50 years. one foot out the door. think about what is at stake in this election. the u.s. supreme court hangs in the balance. climate change has to be addressed and my opponent still denies it. i am proud of the endorsements i received from the orlando sentinel, the tampa bay times, the sun sentinel. two of those endorsed my up on it but they also agree he is shirking his responsibilities. passedbio: the hour has

and you have yet to hear much of a record after four years in the congress. he talked about saving cuts to medicare. he signed on to a letter. have not talked about that tonight because signing on to a letter -- that tells you everything what you need to know. i want to continue to serve the people of florida. the work i did on behalf of some very important people, they are from puerto rico and they were given some of the most difficult assignments in korea and vietnam and no one recognized them for it. we finally got them the congressional medal of honor. just one more achievement.

compare that to patrick murphy's record of doing absolutely nothing. have.t is all the time we thank you for watching. thank you to our host, the university of central florida. thank you and denied. -- thank you and good night. [applause] >> c-span brings you more debates this week from key u.s. senate race. tuesday at 7:00, live coverage on c-span 2 on a debate from indiana. faces evan by.

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the the things that -- >> thing that distinguishes her sensibility is that it is much more rooted into a very contemporary hollywood idea. she is not wearing anything that is revealing. there is a certain kind of modern edge to it that taps into what we are used to seeing coming down the red carpet. it is less regal and more glamorous. >> has it changed over the last eight years? be -- look has gone to has gotten to be more relaxed, if that makes sense. i think -- when i think back to the first state dinner for

india, the dress is gorgeous and her hair was up and she looked wonderful. dinners,f the later where she wore a dress by caroline herrera and even though it was still quite a grand dress, there was an informality to it. it felt more like glamorous sportswear. >> what do you think the impact has been on the role of first lady? is, we allt thing want to be proud of the people in the white house and in that way, we want to be proud of their hospitality, we want them to put their best foot forward.

herself in anted way that makes most people feel like, we can stand up on the world stage alongside folks from france and italy, where the notion of fashion is something that is embedded into their culture. momentousreally moments. the photographs are going to go into history books. for any design house, that is enormous. it not only puts them into the public for an ocular -- vernacular in a way that red links adon't -- it certain gravity to what they do. industry is fashion just as important of an industry

industry,d, the auto all the other things that go into creating the state dinner. >> how does she go about choosing her dress and the designer? my sense is that she wears what she loves. she wears what she feels comfortable in. there is some attention paid to the country that is being acknowledgeesire to either that directly by working and sometimesner it is a matter of paying tribute to a particular color or flower that is important to that country. >> you wrote when you are

covering the state dinner for the chinese premier, she chose a very weighing dress -- vera wang, a diplomatic clarification. >> now i am trying to remember what the dress looked like. >> the black mermaid style dress. as opposed to the one she chose for the first chinese state dinner. vera wang is a very well-known chinese-american designer. the first go around, mrs. obama ,ad gotten criticism particularly oscar de la renta.

she had the opportunity to elevate american design and to wear a dress by an american felt she hadmany missed an opportunity. in many ways, they felt hurt she looked outside. this was something of a do over and there was a little bit of it and knowledge meant that perhaps -- acknowledgment that perhaps the first time was a misstep. >> do you have a favorite dress? >> i thought the carolina herrera dress was particularly elegant. i am also fund of the last one she wore by brandon maxwell. it was such a surprise. one of the things she does quite well and one of the reasons why

people are eager to see what she is going to wear is because she does not just go with design houses that of been around for decades. the triedotshe does not go with and true. brendan maxwell has not been in business for more than a year. twiceand that she wore for her inaugural gowns had not been out in business much before she reached out to him. she really is supporting small businesses and the true sense of the word. >> thank you for your time. >> my pleasure. >> thin ohio, incumbent senator rob portman is running for reelection against five for governor ted strickland. sen. portman: subtest budget director and trade representative in the george bush administration.