authorizing to fund our military, passed by unanimous consent. he only twice voted to fund the military. he voted against soldiers the tool they need to combat international terrorism. he has a phony record when it comes to these plans and his support of their elements. what we need to do is we have to lead. we are hollowing out our military. we have to strengthen our economy so we can strengthen our military. american leadership is void in the world right now. president obama and senator feingold have a plan called peace through withdrawal. he was the first senator to call for the strategic blunder of withdrawing american troops from iraq. when we left a stabilizing force behind in germany, japan, south korea, those were successes. we should have done that in

iraq. because we didn't, isis was able to rise from the ashes of al qaeda in iraq. we have to strengthen our military. we have to lead a willing coalition. mike: do we need american soldiers in that part of the world to defeat isis? mr. johnson: we have 6000 troops there now. that's the estimate. those troops would not be in harm's way had we left a stabilizing force. we are going to have to provide air cover and get it right. i'm not saying this is easy. if we lead to much, everybody sits back, and they don't join the coalition. if we sit back, it allows isis. two years has allowed isis to train additional operatives. little children to become savages and barbarians. that is what we have allowed to happen by allowing isis to exist for another two years.

plan senator feingold supports is not going to do the job. mr. feingold: you asked him to give his plan. he has no plan. other than sending 100,000 troops. coalition troops. he said 100,000. he also said 25,000 americans at one time. he said 100,000. -- 10,000. that's what he said. and that's the same mistake we made when we went into iraq. this is exactly what isis wants. mike: can you beat isis with airstrikes? you have talk about other things. mr. feingold: not alone. that's why i specifically told you the other things we have to do. by the way, they are making progress. tonight, our brave people in iraq are risking their lives. senator johnson minimizes it is minimal -- minimizes it as nothing. they are making enormous progress. they need to make more progress. he thinks we should send a force there for a generation. that is the worst possible idea. that is exactly what isis wants.

he has not learned the lesson of the mistake of iraq, that was a mistake. isis was created because we went into iraq, not because we left. mr. johnson: i said the struggle of islamic terrorism is a generational struggle -- i said the struggle of islamic terrorism is a generational struggle, and that is true. this is not going to be easy. but we have to commit ourselves to success. we have got to defeat isis. senator feingold has an even touched on human intelligence. the way you do human intelligence is to capture unlawful combatants and put them in guantanamo. he wants to close down guantanamo. so we don't gather human intelligence. we have to get serious. the longer we delay, the longer they are going to be able to train.

let me remind you, two milwaukeens were arrested in texas trying to get to syria. mr. feingold: the chair of the homeland security agency has had the opportunity to increase the fbi budget to get more agents out there. he hasn't acted on that. they need resources to do investigations. he has not acted in the way he can. the same thing goes for the intelligence budget, which needs to be increased as well. mr. johnson: we are always fighting for more funding to defend this nation and the homeland. democrats have held up a defense appropriation bill because they hold it hostage for all of the domestic programs that simply don't work. that has been our conundrum. we have a divide in this country. the fact of the matter is, i am for prioritizing spending to the top priorities of government. democrats want to spend more on domestic programs that in many

cases do more harm than good. mike: i want to ask each of you about what is going on in syria. this is part of the conversation. we have all seen these horrible images from aleppo. here is my question. hillary clinton has talked about increasing the number of syrian refugees allowed into the country from 10,000-65,000. do you favor that? mr. feingold: i think we have to play a role in allowing refugees into our country, but the scrutiny has to be serious. with regard to syria itself, the human tragedy there, what has happened to the syrian government with russia is something that has to be addressed. senator johnson has not provided

leadership on this, and there are things we can do. i have felt for many years that the moderate groups, the rebels, should begin in some arms. we can be restrained about how we do it, but they can have that should be given -- should be given some arms. we can be restrained about how we do it. mike: do you support 65,000 syrian refugees? mr. feingold: i am not interested in a number. i am interested in proper scrutiny and making sure we know who these people are before they get here instead of having to figure it out after the fact. mike: you said on my show that the screening process is robust. mr. johnson: it is. and again, the events in syria would not have spun out of control had we not done this strategic blunder of leaving iraq. we would not have seen the slaughter of half a million syrians had we not bugged out.

that's bad judgment. what we should be doing, rather than talking about refugees, is -- about refugees, let's stop the refugee flow. let's provide safe zones, no-fly zones. let's actually lead. by the way, i was the u.s. representative to the united nations general assembly twice. i met with delegations of arab states around the region. they are begging for american leadership. they will follow. they will provide boots on the ground to not only gain territory but hold it. these are sunnis going to these regions. if you completely change the dynamics on the ground, you might end up with a negotiated settlement. unless america leads and provides the air cover and the no-fly zones, sets up safe zones -- mr. feingold: i understand he has gone to meetings, but he is in the senate.

senators can propose a no-fly zone. they can propose arms for the rebels. the fact is what senator johnson does is just criticized the president. that works well. criticize the president, but don't do your own job, which is to lay out legislatively what you need to do. provide the president with the authority to do some of these things. maybe he will use it. maybe he won't. senator johnson has talked about this, but he hasn't acted. mr. johnson: we are being blocked from offering amendments to do what senator feingold suggests. senator harry reid, minority leader, is blocking that. the obstruction in the united states senate is from the democrats. that is why we are left with continuing resolutions and massive spending bills. it's a terrible way to address government. we have been trying to bring appropriation bills forward.

it continues to be blocked. bottom line, they are the obstructionists. we are trying to do this. i want to prioritize spending. from my standpoint, i am the guy in this race who understands government. senator feingold voted 11 times against authorizing the military. mr. feingold: i want to respond to that. this is not about appropriation. this is about whether he can even introduce legislation. harry reid cannot stop you from introducing a bill. you haven't even introduced a bill to deal with this serious situation. by the way, for the military appropriation, i was not the only one who voted against it, so did john mccain, because it was loaded with pork and wasteful spending. senator johnson said he always goes for the military authorization bill. think about that. the united states senate, whose job is to review legislation,

sees a bill loaded with pork and spending, he is going to vote for it for political reasons. senator mccain and other make the military justify. the idea that he is going to vote for it no matter what is purely political. mr. johnson: when our men and women are in harm's way, you bet i going to authorize the military. mike: i want to ask you about a iran. -- ask you about iran. the two of you have very different views on the deal that was made. it was designed to stop the nuclear program in exchange for the lifting of sanctions. senator johnson, you think this was a big mistake. mr. johnson: disastrous deal. it was designed to modify iran's behavior for the better. it has made it worse. we have emboldened the enemy. it is crazy to enter into a deal that injects 100 billion dollars

plus into00 million the economy of the self-proclaimed enemy of america. they have increased missile tests. we can't even inspect. that was a treaty. my amendment would have deemed it a treaty so that the united states senate would step up to the plate and said yes or no on a treaty. had every senator upheld their oath of office on my amendment, it would've passed 100-0. i didn't even get 40 votes. the fact of the matter is it is a disastrous deal that has emboldened our enemy. we should have ratcheted up sanctions. we should've brought them to the negotiating table. we would've dismantled for all

time the nuclear weapon program instead of allowing them in 10 years to be full force, spinning, weaponizing. it's a disastrous deal. mr. feingold: there's nothing more important then making sure iran does not get a nuclear weapon. that is what this deal was about. the sanctions were effective in forcing them to negotiate. the chinese were there, the russians were there. i believe this deal is the best chance we have to make sure iran can never get a nuclear weapon, which is something we cannot possibly tolerate. senator johnson again, just like on the deficit issue and isis, doesn't have a plan. he just wants to say look, let's jack up the sanctions. but he doesn't have a specific idea. it's not a plan. the reality is, the sanctions

are the thing that got them to the negotiating table. i believe this program is going to work. i believe iran will not get a nuclear weapon because of this because we will have actual enforcement. that's one of the most important things to do for the safety of the people of this country as well as the safety of the people in the middle east and israel. again, you can be negative and attack something in a partisan way, but across the board, most experts believe this is a success. it has to be proven over time, but it was the right thing to do. under senator johnson's alternative, we would go to war, including having a generational war in iraq at the same time. i don't think that's a good idea. mr. johnson: ratchet up sanctions and bring iran to the negotiating table in good faith. the goal should have been to dismantle the nuclear weapons program like they did in libya. we showed unbelievable weakness. it was a horrible deal. i don't trust president obama to

negotiate a good deal. it was a disaster. mike: i want to take the remainder of our time to talk about something that directly affects the people of wisconsin, and that is the opioid and heroin epidemic in our state. you can talk to law enforcement and families all around the state, and they know someone who has suffered from this. they know someone who has fought addiction. they know someone who has died from their addiction. what is the role of the u.s. senator in dealing with this? i will begin with you, mr. feingold. mr. feingold: you have to acknowledge that it's an emergency. and like you said, it affects every community in the state. poor, rich, doesn't matter. it's one of those times when you have to make sure the resources are there for treatment, to make sure doctors are trained and that drugs are available for emergency situations. we have to make sure we prevent it. that means making sure there are

resources to get intervention when kids are still in high school. we have to also make sure that these big companies that have been pushing these pain killers have a little accountability. they have a responsibility here as well, some of these pharmaceutical industries. this isn't opium addiction. this is people who begin taking painkillers and then get addicted and move on to other things. when there was a chance to vote on this, $622 million in march, senator johnson had talked about the issue, and i give him credit for raising it, but when there was a bipartisan amendment, he voted no. he said we cannot just throw money at the problem. we need resources to fight the crisis. it is an emergency. it is at that level. mr. johnson: we provided funding in a comprehensive fact i supported. this is one of the more disgusting and false attacks senator feingold has launched against me in this campaign. my nephew died of a fentanyl overdose this year.

we have held hearings, meetings, roundtables. i have been active -- i understand what an enormous challenge this is. all of the work on figuring out why our border is so porous -- it has to do with our demand for drugs. we allow all this heroin to come in and dramatically decrease the price of heroin. at the forefront of this. my act, that was called the most import piece of legislation to an act on the subject, so important that medicare actually picked up my prop act to implement regulations because they have the regulatory authority to do it. what it does is, it no longer allows medicare to reimburse

based on a survey in terms of how patients view their pain management, which has given incentives to doctors to over prescribed opiates, a leading gateway drug to heroin addiction. i have been incredibly active on this. the fact that senator feingold attacked and said i have done nothing is completely false and a very disgusting false attack. mr. feingold: i didn't say you have done nothing. a radio ad said senator johnson has essentially done nothing. mr. feingold: he had a chance to vote and he didn't act. and he's not talking about the fundamental issue, which is people being addicted to painkillers. it's about drugs coming from mexico. it's about people being on painkillers, becoming addicted, and then having a need to deal with the problem. this requires resources he was unwilling to vote for. that's on his record. mr. johnson: they are not the resources senator feingold would want. i have yet to be in a senate hearing where we are talking

about programs where the solution wasn't another government program. like the student loan program. we have 38 of those and more government funding. quite honestly, it encapsulates the difference in this race. senator feingold always has a plan that grows government. when you grow government, the government is good to come and take more money out of your pocket. is going tonment come and take more money out of your pocket. i am looking for solutions that actually work. i am looking at the real problems wisconsin nights are facing, the lack of opportunity, the slow economy, noncompetitive taxes. i have been incredibly engaged on the opiate issue and will continue to be engaged. as chairman of homeland security oversight, to accomplish things, we passed 80 three pieces of -- a three pieces of legislation, -- 83 pieces of

legislation, 28 of which were passed into law. the prop act was one. mike: you talked earlier about the porous borders, and that that was part of the problem, in your opinion. what you do about border security? donald trump says he wants to build a wall. do you want to build a wall? mr. johnson: we need to and incentives for immigration, the number one being people coming to this country to work. my security bill would have a robust guestworker program well governed by the states. they can set how many people have guestworker programs and set the prevailing wages so we don't depress any american earnings. it's a commonsense approach. once you eliminate the incentive, you have a whole lot fewer people coming to the country illegally. you need better fencing. mike: do you need a wall? mr. johnson: you need better fencing. i don't think we need a 700 mile wall. we need technology and people on the ground. but what we need is a commitment by the president. we haven't had that on a bipartisan basis. we have to commit ourselves not

just to fix the immigration problem, but to public health and safety. because our borders are so porous -- three grams and heroin in the 1980's cost about $3200. now it's about $150. $10 to $15 a head is a very affordable addiction. mr. feingold: there is no real disagreement about the border issue. mike: do you think we need greater security? mr. feingold: i think we do. i voted when i was in the senate for border agents, and i would have no problem with that. the issue is the 11 million undocumented people here in this country. we need comprehensive immigration reform. senator johnson has use the excuse of only dealing with the border issue to deal -- to avoid dealing with that problem. up in green bay, i met with a group of latinos who talked about how scary it is to try to go to work at some of the companies because they cannot get a driver's license. it's bad for them. it's bad for our business

climate. businesses in this state strongly want comprehensive immigration reform. dairy farms desperately need a legal status for these individuals. but senator johnson hasn't lifted a finger. he has said we can't do that until we close the border. you are never going to 100% close the border. but this is one of the most important issues of our time. it's a bipartisan issue. president bush acted on it, john mccain, marco rubio for a while. but when he came in with the tea party, they shut it down. one of the most important issues to the economy and the state of wisconsin, for the jobs in the state of wisconsin, is copperheads of immigration reform, and he has stood against it and only talked about the border. i find that troubling. >> the question is -- >> the reason i voted against a comprehensive bill is it included benefits for illegal immigrants. that's called incentive.

my guest worker program addressed the people in this country, in wisconsin. i have a very practical approach, and the reality is you aren't going to have public accepgness to legalizationt. -- to accept legalization. once we secure the border, we will treat people with accep humanity, no doubt about it. that will be my proposal. cover has bill that toers $256,000 of benefits illegal immigrants -- and when senator feingold had the chance to make sure that illegal immigrants wouldn't it social security benefits, he basically voted to table the to amendment that would have prevented exactly that. he continues incentives -- >> that is false, it has been proven to be false repeatedly, but again, no effort by senator johnson to work with other senators on a bipartisan basis.

he just says you can vote for it. where is his leadership? he is the chairman of the committee. why hasn't he introduced a cover hints of, bipartisan bill to allow some sort of solution to make sure the 11 million people have legal status, getting in -- that'sitizenship what the manufacturers and leaders in the state actually want, but he won't act on it. >> i have been acting. i have been taking a step-by-step approach. act, the the borders border metrics act, you need the metrics and we don't have them. the problem is this administration won't secure the border with a cover his approach. look at what a disaster copperheads of immigration reform is. i don't let perfect be the enemy of good, and you don't pass any legislation without an incredibly bipartisan approach.

that has been my record. his false attacks on the are simply that. reform, want bipartisan the only chance they has is to have a different senator, because he will never work -- >> is it possible -- 50 or 20 seconds -- is it possible to do a conference of plan, or do you have to do it piece by piece? >> there is no question. it was almost done earlier with bipartisan efforts in the 1990's. with aalso almost done combination of marco rubio and the other senators. he didn't participate, but i think that is what will happen. i think this election will create a different senate, a different president, and i think they will become for heads of immigration reform because the business community -- through, listening to all the bills that have been passed, the immigration

population is continuing to increase. senator feingold, what he has proposed wouldn't work. >> i will have to wrap that up. it's that time of the evening and we have flipped a coin to determine the order. we begin with senator johnson. >> i first ran in 2010 because i was panicked for this nation. i had two basic promises. i will always -- i'm not running because i want to be a u.s. senator. i'm not running because i want to be somebody, i am running because the nation faces enormous challenges. we need the perspective of accomplishing something. that is why i am doing this. the fact of the matter is, as the chairman of homeland security, i put myself in a position to accomplish something. what i haveactly asked -- can you guys get along and do something?

the fact of the matter is i won't solve these problems. i'm asking for your support, for your vote. i'll never vote for reelection again. i don't know how many times he will run for reelection. >> thank you. now we will hear from mr. feingold. >> thank you. i have so enjoyed getting around and seeing these exciting innovations, things like urban evolutions in appleton, where they take down the barnes and turn them into beautiful home appliances. i thought it was important that i visit six or seven of these craft breweries around the state, as well as a vodka distillery and surround. this is a great part of this great state, and you have to be buttive about the future, unfortunately i have great concern for people who aren't able to make ends meet. people at the top are doing great. that's because people like senator johnson vote against their interest they vote against the minimum unfortunately i have great concern for people who aren't able to make ends meet.

people at the top are doing wage, against family leave. they don't do anything about the student loan program. you deserve senator who will stand with you, and if i am elected, that's exactly what i will do. i ask you for your vote. >> thank you, mr. feingold. and with that, our time is up. we want to thank the candidates for being here. thanks to senator johnson and mr. feingold. we also want to thank the folks at home for watching and the people in this audience tonight. we'd also like to knowledge our editorial partner and the upfront network of stations carrying tonight's broadcast. a reminder -- please get out and vote on november 8. i'm like to mmike gousha. have a great night. [applause] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] >> this has been a special

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who hope to represent the people of indiana and washington. the winner will succeed senator dan coats, republican who is retiring. i am your moderator. executive director of media relations at depaul university. a former television news anchor and reporter. my experience included time at w and rtv and at wayne in fort wayne. for the next hour, the candidates will debate a variety of to mastic and international issues that are u.s. senators likely to face. many questions came from you, members of the public who submitted questions to the debate commission about what concerns you. some of those who provided questions are here with us tonight in person. none of the questions i will be asked tonight have been shared in advance with any of the three candidates. with that taken care of, here are our candidates. lucy brenton is the libertarian candidate. she is a finance professional.

evan by is a democratic candidate, a former u.s. senator and former governor of indiana. todd young is the republican candidate, he is a congressman representing indiana's ninth district in the south central and southeast part of the state. the candidates positions on the stage in the order in which they will answer the questions were determined by luck conducted by the debate commission. after i ask the question each candidate will have the opportunity to respond for one minute. rebuttal periods of 30 seconds each will be on an as-needed basis. if a candidate exceeds the amount of time given for his or her response i will ask them to stop. before the final question each candidate will be able to address the topic of their choice. this allows the candidates to discuss the topic they feel is important but has not been touched on by the questions in the program. they can go can go back to a topic that was discussed earlier so they can delve into it

further. the candidates have agreed to a set of rules which include no props or prepared notes at the podium. at this time the candidates have the opportunity to further introduce themselves. we'll have them make a one minute opening statement. >> good evening. i like to thank the indiana debate commission, my fellow hoosiers and my steamed opponents. my name is lucy brenton. you probably don't know who i am because i haven't spent $30 million to win a job that pays under $200,000 per year. you know me because i'm a wife, mother, daughter of a disabled daughter. make them better and at a hoosier like you who is sick and tired of what is going on in our country. special interest groups have hijacked us. it's time we send them a new message that hoosier voters cannot be bought. i'm running because mr. bayh spent too much time in d.c. looking for lobbying job instead of serving hoosiers. he is not one of us. i'm running i'm running against mr. young because he talks conservative, when it comes down to the boat he votes to raise the national debt.

that's a because okay because as ears senator i will upon the loss of there's justice for everyone. i will will call for strong national defense so we can be safe. i will work to and the debt burden facing her grandchildren. hopefully you'll see a brighter future for our america. thank you. >> mr. bayh, your one minute opening statement. >> is great have an opportunity to have a conversation with my fellow hoosiers. i'm pleased to be joined by my wife susan, sweetheart, i love you. i know we'll hear negative attacks from congressman young and i'm looking for to answer those attacks. first i want to tell you why are running and what we can do to solve your problems. that's what this election should be about. i'm running to help small businesses get capital they need to get jobs. i'm running to make sure that colleges affordable building on the 21st century program so students can go to college.

i want to make sure social security and medicare there for you and your golden years. i will work with republicans, democrats, and libertarians to make progress for you. i will fight against the extremes of both parties to make progress for you. making progress for you, helping our families building a better better indiana and better america, that's what the election should be about. >> mr. bayh, thank you. >> growing up here in indiana my dad used to tell me every day that if i dream big, work hard, good things would happen in life. i believed it. i still believe it. jenny and i want our four children to believe it as well. we want for our four children what every hoosier wants. a quality education that turns into a good paying job. that leads to a meaningful career and affordable healthcare. right here in indiana. my believe in the future took me

to the u.s. naval academy. it gave meaning to my service in the u.s. marine corps and served me well in the private economy. i've spent most my professional life i do protect and preserve america's promise. right now it's under fire. i'm not a career politician, i'm not a lobbyist. i'm a hoosier. i'm a marine. i'm a marine who wants to put people before politics. at a time when far too many of our crew politicians have seemingly forgotten who they work for, where they live, you can imagine a cause greater than themselves, i will always serve a cause greater than my self, this marine will always serve you. i hope turn your support. >> thank you, mr. young. we're on tour first question. several of our questions will be presented by voters. with us tonight is brian, teacher from chester min. >> it to the general public congress is seen as an institution that is not working. republicans and democrats alike failed to come together to address major issues affecting our country. where in your political career

can you point to a time in which you worked with members of the other party to accomplish something meaningful? >> thank you for the question and i appreciate that. in fact, i am a libertarian so there has not yet been a political office that i have held. what i do have is ten children. i will tell you there's no more peacemaking across in the else that comes along when you're looking at a fight between a 16-year-old and a 14-year-old. i like to-year-old. i like to bring that experience to congress. quite frankly sometimes our congressional members act like children and sometimes they should probably be put in a corner. without those extremes extremes it's time we work together as a family and nation for those solutions that will bring us economic prosperity and peace. >> mr. bayh. >> thank you for your question and thank you for her work with her children. i'm proud to have been endorsed by indiana's teachers in this election. let me give you two examples. the first is probably something that is near and dear to your heart. i worked with the republican

state senate and a democratic house of representatives to pass the 21st century scholars program. that's enabled 70,000 young that's enabled 70,000 young people to go on to an education. they will be better employees, more responsible citizens. it's also good for all of us when we create a country of opportunity that allows young people to work hard, do the right thing, and get ahead. that's what we need more of in washington, d.c. another example is working with senator collins from maine, a republican to a republican to bring together efforts to fight alzheimer's. it's a terrible disease. it afflicts too many of our families. we added resources and cord needed the efforts and i was honored this last spring to get an award for that. making it possible for kids to go to college, fighting alzheimer's and pulling coming together in a bipartisan way to move our country forward, that's what this election should be about. >> mr. young. >> thank you for the question. hoosiers are tired of the empty rhetoric. threat my short political life i have worked across the to get

consequential things done. one example would be repealing the 30 hour provision in obama care. restoring the 40 hour workweek. this is a provision in obama care that is put at risk of the jobs, hours, jobs, hours, and wages of 2.6 million american workers. i've been proud to get that passed in house of representatives and hope to continue to fight for is your next united states senator. it's unfortunate we have this provision to do within the first first place. obama care never needed to be passed. hoosiers pleaded with evan bayh but he ignored their wishes and decided to listen to political interest in washington, d.c. he listened his party boss. i'm a hoosier marine will favor hoosier values not the interest of party leaders in washington, d.c. >> mr. bayh, would you like to rebut that? >> i would. i agree with congressman young. we should extend to the

definition of the work week from 30 hours to 40 hours and also expanded the definition of small business from 50 to 100. he wants to take us back to the days were insurance companies have unlimited profits. he wants to take health insurance away, he wants to open the donut hole costing our seniors more than $1400 per year in drug costs. we don't want to go back to those states now will fight to make sure we don't. >> thank you. i really am excited about the interference of the natural relationship between an employer and employee. it's not up to government to decide whether 30 euros or 40 hours is an appropriate work week. it's up it's up to the employer in a play to negotiate them selves. perhaps we can go back to a time where people actually matter. in fact in world war ii the only reasons we came up with the insurance benefits was because of price and wage control prevented them from paying

workers what they're worth. >> evan bayh has just offended obama care. hoosiers find it unpopular because it's a job killer. it's highest tax increase in history despite the wishes of his hoosiers. it was imposed during the worst possible moment during our recovery. no wonder we are not going to's in this country. 21 new taxes in obama care, most of which follow middle-class families. healthcare costs continue to go up. this is a bad law, we need we need to start over in a bipartisan way. >> i will give you 15 seconds each because i see you want to weigh in. >> we need to fix the parts of the law you fix by congressman young wants to take us back to the days were insurance companies can charge women more for their healthcare because their women. he wants to to deny healthcare coverage for 302,000 citizens.

he also wants go back to the days were insurance companies can cancel your policy because he got sick. i don't think that's a step in the right direction. >> mr. young. >> these are clearly d.c. politician talking points. they bear no resemblance of the reality. what. what i want to do is work together, republicans, democrats, ground up. i want. i want to consult with hoosiers about the healthcare program they want. to bring down costs and expand access to all americans. evan bayh wants to maintain obama care. it's causing way too much harm. >> wire we bickering about what a person should be forced to do? the fact of the matter is that it's americans deserve to be free. to be free from government regulations that comes along with forced insurance scam. >> a question submitted by a voter. we received several commissions regarding climate change. others say that that notion of climate change is a myth. where do you stand in the

spectrum and how should the u.s. prioritize its energy sources? bayh. >> i think climate change is real. the question is what should we do about it. first we should emphasize renewables like wind and solar which are expanding across indiana. that's a good thing. we should emphasize efficiency, retrofitting our homes and businesses to save energy. we should emphasize clean coal generation which we have an indiana that would help the mining business and help utility ratepayers. we should emphasize ethanol which congressman young has voted against. i don't think we should have the cap and crate system. i don't agree with a clean power plant. i disagree with mrs. clinton on. i think that think that would be harmful to our consumers. so renewables, efficiency, clean coal, let's not, let's not hurt indiana businesses or consumers. i would not support that. >> this is a global issue.

it's not a hoosier problem. we don't want to wreck our economy trying to deal with it. evan bayh has supported an energy tax in the past. he would lead to an increase of $1700 tax for american households. it would hurt manufacturers disproportionately. we need to stand up for manufacturing workers. it also hurt our farmers. i'm proud that the indiana farm bureau considers me a friend of friend of farmers. i'm proud to care that title around. before imposing carbon taxes on our fuel, our fertilizer, and on other sources is going to eat your all her economy. where do these ideas come from? not from hoosiers themselves. from hoosiers themselves. party leaders in washington, d.c. and special interests. like the one that evan bayh now works for is a lobbyist and has an rich tim and his family to the tune of millions of dollars.

>> thank you. i'm it changes a stiff sticky subject. it's all most a religion of people say it's fair not. humans have only been here for a blip in the in's and i don't have enough data to determine whether not we are getting colder or warmer. in fact as a child growing up it was the a sage. i say yes, let's prioritize energy sources but let the free market to. most are partly let's end our dependence on foreign oil. the way we can do that is allowing commercial hemp growth. we have amazing soil. we could get 3 - for harvest of habit. that biodiesel can that biodiesel can save us. it will save our economy and save the environment. >> opportunity for rebuttal. >> will desperate people do desperate things and clearly congressman young is getting desperate. it's not true that i was for cap and trade. i was against it. it's not true i have ever been a lobbyist. not true. congressman young is familiar

with lots of them. he's take 160,000 in campaign contributions from lobbyists hundred 60,000 in campaign contributions from lobbyists about it with the lobbyists and the big banks to for the insurance industry to reopen the donut hole. he's voted for the tax deductions and shipping our jobs overseas. if there's a conflict of interest it's between congressman young's voting record in the best interested of the state of indiana. >> with respect to the carbon tax, perhaps i can't keep all of them straight. most of the texas hitter middle-class during the trough of our economy. it has led to stagnant job creation in indiana. evan bayh cast the vote for obama care. we would not have it but for his vote. with respect to being a lobbyist, he's a partner adult lobbying firm. maybe they pay. maybe they pay him $2 million not to lobby. >> can we talk about the carbon tax?

isn't that kind of silly. were going to give an international organization the right to tax us. maybe i'll become a bavarian and then you can tax me for breathing because i won't be eating. let's talk about real solutions to problems. let's fight for commercial hemp. >> my goal is to give everybody an equal shot. will move on. let's turn to a serious international issue in the news. under what circumstance should america send additional troops and humanitarian aid to middle eastern hotspots such as iraq and syria or to afghanistan. we'll begin with mr. young. >> we should not be placing artificial limits or timetables. that is something we have learned in iraq and afghanistan. we need to establish a very clear mission for victory throughout the middle east. we want to defeat isis, we want we want to remove aside from power. i have up proposed a resolution

calling on our nato partners to collectively pool our resources, intelligence, and energies to come up with a multilateral strategy to accomplish those. i can imagine some of the components into a strategy will involve find more shorties, loosening the rules of engagements we can kill more terrorists on the ground. establishing safe zones to address humanitarian crisis on the ground rather than leading to a refugee crisis both in europe and the united states. none will be a completed if we continue the obama clinton policy. i will be vigilant making sure the next president stays engaged in the world. >> thank you. i'm glad to us. as a mother what i want is my children to grow up in a world that is full of peace. i don't see that. i don't even remember congress declaring an act of war.

they did not declare this war so it seems to be an illegal war so it should be stopped. the first thing i recommend and i would do is i would stop arming everybody. can we stop in the world's gun salesman? that would be a good thing to stop being. i want to stop to stop being. i want to stop dropping bombs on everybody. we're dropping bombs on wedding parties. what we need is a diplomatic action. somewhere between the world placement and an isolationist there has to be somewhere in that range that is better than what doing now. humanitarian aid only. people are hurting. real people are starving. those of people we should be helping. let's not continue these endless foreign wars. >> i think it is a good thing that we can agree on a bipartisan manner that we should fight isis and defeat global terrorism. we need to continue the offensive that started in the last 48 hours to retake muzzle and deny them the safe space in iraq. our special forces and syria should work with the kurds and

turks to retake raqqa. we need to empower our intelligence services. i've been placed work for the last six years as an advisor to the cia to make sure we can combat isis abroad so they can't attack us at home. we need to empower our department of homeland security and fbi so they can find loan with the attackers at home before they can strike. most of all what we need to do is win the war of ideas. simply put, we are better than our adversaries. we stand for freedom, they stanford -- we stand for the right to worship god and speak our minds as we see fit. if we stand for those things and principles then we will triumph over adversaries stand for beheadings and terrorism. >> we will move on to the next question. >> i would love to rebut if that is okay.

>> that was really impressive mr. bayh. i'm shocked when their talk about the faction. the faction we are arming today's one that tomorrow will turn around and put their guns, the ones that we gave them at our troops. our sons and sons and daughters are dying. that is not right. it is time to stop the killing. >> i have real-world experience here. i have not just setting committee hearings and committee rooms and monitor the situation. i actually understand what i'm hearing on the ground goes through. i understand, i've seen generals and admirals russell with difficult decisions. i have value in this area. evan sat on the committee but skip multiple hearings and during his last year in office he spent 60 day shopping for a job as a lobbyist as opposed to being vigilant in this war on terror.

>> can, i've always been strong on the war and terror and proud that i have always supported our troops. congressman young has voted repeatedly against our veterans. he is voted to cut funding for p ptsd sufferers. to cut funding for va's, for reintegration for vets so they can get jobs. it's jobs. it's surprising to me that someone like congressman young would repeatedly vote against our beds. i will stand with our vets. >> i have another international question. vladimir putin in russia, russia has become increasingly active the last two years do you see them as a potential in the war and terrorism that needs to be courted on the us, or a potential aggressor an enemy that needs to be confronted? >> a friend of mine just told me an interesting video on tv. it was putin appealing to the american people to let them know the things that our country is doing that we don't know about. in fact it seems like every day i get on wikileaks to find out what is really going on. quite frankly if i'm looking at the information being given to me by a mile government, i don't trust it.

to ask a question about what should be dealt with putin, with the limited information i have, i think i'm going to trust wikileaks a little bit more. without looking at the documents it would be difficult to decide what to do with putin. i'm in favor of making friends. i think the best way to make friends is by making economic alliances, free-trade, fair trade. when you are fair trade. when you are trading with someone and looking them in there i am making those relationships it's difficult to drop bombs on them. >> vladimir putin is a tyrant. he is a deeply hostile to the united states. the only thing the man understands is power. we have to push back. we have to push back and impose more economic sanctions for his aggression in the ukraine. i agree with secretary carrie, there should should be wartime's trial to bring those responsible to count for the crimes are committing inside syria. think we should encourage the europeans to expand the national

which will make them more independent. above all we need to work with our allies to make sure vladimir putin knows we will stand strong and united against aggressive russia. in the final thing, these reports that russia is seeking to metal in our domestic elections, this is deeply disturbing. there should be a consequence for that. we should take cyber actions against a financial interest in those in charge of moscow. we cannot let them commit crimes and syria, iraq, or our elections. >> this is clearly why we need a change. we need to change with respect to our lead from behind. obama included poor policy. we need to fight aggression from glad amir putin, he is not done. it's not done. it's the ukraine, crimea, and syria. the baltic states are now being threatened. this is an object lesson of why we cannot lead from behind. we have to stay engaged in the world. is something i learned in the

u.s. marine corps, only strong nations to deter aggression and when necessary win wars. we have to be very careful about where and when we engage. i support for their sanctions. i support working multilaterally with our allies and partners in various regions around the world, wherever possible. pooling our resources. when he people with on the ground resources not people who have just sat in committee hearing meeting. >> i wish would just stop talking about dropping bombs. i was born in 1971 and yet we have been out where my entire life. this is unacceptable. you have putin who is in the kgb but george senior was cia, so we have a bunch of spooks running our a bunch of spooks running our country. i think it's time we have a real person running the election in the country like maybe a mom. look up gms -- >> as i mention we have several voters with us here tonight. the next question will be asked by alexa, a parent from -- what you think needs to be done, if

anything to make a more difficult for dangerous people to get their hands on guns in indiana? will you work to require background checks on all gun sales? >> thank you for a question, it's a good one. let me begin by saying that i support the second amendment. i think our sportsman, report hunters, people who seek security in our homes have a right to own firearms, i believe that. i also think it's deeply wrong for those have been identified as terrorist, known terrorists who are deemed to be so dangerous that they cannot even get on an airplane, i don't think we should be selling, i don't think we should be selling guns to them. i also agree with the your question about violent felons, people have been convicted in a court of law committing ask of violence and felonies, we should

background tracks to make sure they don't have access to firearms. we need to strike the right balance. protect the right second amendment right to own firearms. i believe in that strongly. don't let people who are terrorists get their hands on weapons. that is something that is something congressman young had been voted on repeatedly. he wants them to have guns. i think that doesn't make sense. >> mr. young. >> hoosiers can economy to protect their gunned rates most surly. it is enshrined in our constitution, our supreme court is been quite clear. but every right has its limitations. we should ensure that nobody who is mentally ill gets access to a firearm. i have firearm. i worked very hard in congress supporting legislation to divert funding from other programs into those programs that are evident space. and they will keep in mental illness from becoming a public safety crisis. i supported funding for more psychiatric beds to care for those who need help so they don't get access to firearms.

that's one bipartisan constructive thing we can do. one of the things i want to and that's in the selection is not just control the united states senate but conceivably sub controlled the u.s. supreme court. every time evan has had a chance he is voted for president obama's nominees for the u.s. supreme court. he has a voted against president bush's more conservative nominees who ground the decision in the text of the constitution as opposed to legislating from the bench. your gun rights will be jeopardized should evan becomes an net asked u.s. senator for indiana. >> your gun rights are safe for me. i'm a straight constitutionalist. one thing i've learned is that i don't just support the second amendment, i live it. i have a carry have a carry license in indiana and it bugs me for mr. young to say that every -- has its limitations. if someone hasn't done anything wrong the wire we charging them with a crime that they can't do something. our rights are giving to us in their natural there given there given by our creator and should not be limited. as far as a no-fly zone airplane

watchlist, are you kidding me? we are the a pity me political punishment. so many people, even stevens, we would not give a gun. i'm telling you i'm in favor of, the people we are arming overseas went up with the guns that we sell them. 110,000,000,000 dollars worth that are now pointed back at that are now pointed back at your moms, dads, people serving in the military. it's time to put them on the list and stop selling guns abroad. we should not be the world's largest arms dealer. >> is action needed to up grade the program to provide adequate income and if you say yes, what would you do? >> i am so happy to have this question let me be very very clear we must keep our promise to all of our seniors. this is a turn benefit senior citizens pay into so i proposed absolutely no changes whatsoever

-- are completely unacceptable, so many of those are committed by people who are mentally ill. we are not being providing firearms to the mentally ill. i will be a constructive voice in congress to make sure we get things done. >> every time i have on handgun i passed a background check, and it was easy for me because i don't have those problems. but i will tell you, we need to have a real discussion of mental illness in this country, because if you look at every single one of the school shooters, they were all on ssris, paxil, throws zac.il, pro

creating settlements of the families of those homicides and suicides. >> a domestic question. social security. is action needed to up grade the program to provide adequate income and if you say yes, what would you do? >> i am so happy to have this question let me be very very clear we must keep our promise to all of our seniors. this is a turn benefit senior citizens pay into so i proposed absolutely no changes whatsoever for current seniors and those approaching retirement 55 and older but according to obama is owned actuaries is unsustainable after 18 years does that mean there isn't enough money to pay out the benefits? i in my early forties i prepared to work another couple months to make the program sustainable my eight record is different than my applauded attacks the social security benefits your earned benefits to illegal immigrants also he voted for obamacare that cut $700 billion that is sold

important to our seniors. if you want someone to fight for the hoosier values boat for eight hoosier redo is connected to the state to listen to party leaders. so they can grow big government by using your social security dollars. >> into for your service in the marine corps i appreciate i do not mean any disrespect i have been on the mob core 25 years in the marine corps to speak the truth first choose to speak is when you run out of money stopped digging coal and stop spending. he is bank criticized for calling so security a ponzi scheme but he speaks the truth. new workers are paying for the older workers do believe the of this there is a magical trust

fund? you cannot because they have been stalled from in 1913 because of the federal reserve act that ended our opportunity to have an honest money system. because of that the box of brush trees that causing bureau of dollar buildup takes $20 in and tell me get back to an honest money system we cannot have any deals for that matter. >> the congressmen if it is hard to keep track it is not true i voted to increase taxes. it is not true that i want to give social security benefits to seniors. talk about the $70 billion profits from the insurance industry. he wants to privatize social security calling medicare wolf -- will fare -- welfare we

should not put that on the backs of our seniors to increase the premiums on average of $6,000 a year. how will they make ends meet doing that? adjust is a right solids grapple with the problem of social security and medicare but not balance on the backs of the seniors. >> these are the words of a career politician. spewing out talking points and very little veracity. he had his opportunity to make social security sustainable. he has not done anything. he passed two bills in 12 years,

not known as a highly prolific professional he is all talk he spent hours social security money on everything but social security stimulus and obamacare things that the hoosiers don't want that is the record not a marine that will fight for your values. >> what we are talking about here it is people that were put into a ponzi scheme their victims no less than an actor bernie made off. when you have something that is romney don't continue to do what is wrong you do what is right to pay off the people who were in the social security system now until the benefits run out do not enslave my grandchildren for you spent the last time i checked the congressmen is in -- grandchildren for you. >> last time i checked the congressmen is in congress but he mentioned my record in all of

us things and also to help the also industry, serving 100,000 auto jobs across the street. he said let them go belly up. we don't do that to our fellow hoosiers. i will fight to end that tax loophole congress mignon has voted repeatedly to ship the jobs back to china that is not the representation that we need in the united states. >> we have come to a segment may i have had to scramble my notes -- he can talk for up to one minute. i had to scribble my notes because we are moving around. there will be a follow-up on that same topic for a maximum of two minutes then mr. young will have to minutes.

if you are keeping score at home , you are doing better than i am. then there will be one minute of rebuttal. the other candidates will have the same opportunity to speak on the topic of their choice. >> i would like to talk about our economy and trade. my top priority is to create good jobs to have a level playing field into often that is not the case. recently they just lost a they just lost the contract because china is illegally importing things below the cost of production and that has to stop. they cannot even export their products because of the illegal trade barriers. i talked to too many hoosier businesses that are losing jobs and losing business because of

illegal currency manipulation or intellectual property theft. that has to stop also is the tax deduction that ship jobs overseas that isn't right. i met with those workers recently -- they are losing everything. how does the congressmen explain they want to keep that tax break at the time they tried to make ends meet? it's just not right. >> you have to administer talk -- you know have two minutes to talk about trade. >> is this so hard to listen to people banter back and forth how can i slides supple little pie for my constituents? when you spend $30 million of -- $30 million on the race they expect a return on their investment. i have spent less than $3000 on this race so far so for every bill to make sure they get the thousand dollar free trader the managed trade that they want a

copper penny. if you want efficiency in government and you should look to somebody who has to balance a budget, who couldn't go off and do deficit spending. you want to talk about illegal currency manipulation, we are mad countries got together to go around us on our dollar status. when people buy oil we make money off it unless china is doing their own thing. you really don't know what it is going on until you do research. what i would like you to do as americans is to think about where the monetary system has been. the reason our economy stagnates and the reason we have a bubble and bust is because we don't have an honest money system. the very foundation of our economy is rotten. the one they've learned from flipping houses is have a strong foundation. anything you put on top of that does not matter. if your foundation is corrupt

and i must tell you our foundation is corrupt, you have that. if you want businesses to flood into the country, who the corporate income tax to zero. give corporations a certainty about the tax laws that is used is how you stimulate the economy and it will level the playing field and make sure you hold them to strict accountability so that they don't pollute. >> i support could trade deals -- good trade deals and i support those that create jobs. i oppose deals that to do the opposite and that will destroy jobs and lead lower household income and we need to revisit those that are no longer working, work with our partners to make sure there is a way. we need to enforce existing trade deals but one of the things i will never do is vote to unleash a flood of

outsourcing to china. that's not consistent with hoosier values so i'm wondering where he might've heard it. perhaps he heard it from d.c. insiders his neighbors in , washington, d.c.? ,erhaps his lobbying clients people who prevailed upon him when he was a united states senator and encouraged him to it. but there are other things need to grow our economy -- we need to simplify the tax code, to stop overtaxing made in america product. i have thrown myself into a tax reform effort -- we have a proposal to do just that. i think we need to simplify the code for our small businesses so they aren't disadvantaged as compared to large corporations who bear so much influence and washington, d.c. i think most of individual payers should be able to file on a christmas card and let's

create a new smaller business rate. two out of three jobs are created by small businesses but the most important thing we can do is to remove the largest tax increase in american history of obamacare. we wouldn't have obamacare if he didn't pass the deciding vote against the interest of hoosiers and in a partisan way. he did not invite republican ideas in. there were no republicans have supported the legislation. we can hold them accountable for his deciding vote for obamacare which is hurting jobs so much. >> now we're at the second phase of the debate. us two minutesve on the topic of your choice and we will go around again. >> i appreciate that. i have grown up in indiana and a native hoosier i graduated on the west side so i have been all around the city. i planted my roots and state here. there is one thing that has

caught my heart that is our farmers. our farmers need economic prosperity and they need it without dumping tons of chemicals into our soil. what i would say is that is our farmers want a cash crop, commercial hand is the way to go. you can make rope and may i submit to you that it would end of the points -- our dependence on foreign oil. these gentlemen to my last are paid for and receive money from the oil industry. atyou could only look opensecret.org that is why you -- that is why you are denied commercial hand. indiana requires a strong farm economy. i have consistently voted for a farm bill that gives our farm communities and operation the sort of resources they need. that includes crop insurance.

he things that can be controlled. we need to tackle big regulations coming out of the epa. uptick of those in the obama administration and hillary clinton promises to double down. my opponent voted with her 85% of the time when they were in the senate. we can expect him to rubberstamp or policy agenda. she is now helping to fund his campaign. there are other things we can do to help our farmers. when it comes to reforming our tax code we need to eliminate the death tax. death should not be a taxable event. my opponent has voted against it, and even voted on exemptions for family farms here in the adverselyndiana, thus impacting multigenerational farms in preventing people from passing their farms to the next generation. but perhaps the best thing we can do to make sure farming interests are recognized is we can grow the economy faster.

get back regulatory reform. i have offered signature regulatory reform efforts of the congress, it's called the reins act and it requires every major regulation whether it's the waters of the united states or obamacare regulations or irs regulations. they have to come before congress for an up or down vote. we need tax reform and i have discussed that, but most importantly, we have to repeal the largest tax increase in american history, obamacare. my opponent gave us obamacare. hoosiers didn't ask for it. he listened to d.c. special interests who he later worked for. he did not listen to hoosiers. i will always fight for your rights and for your values. probablyates, there's a good reason i'm a former tv newscaster -- the debate format as i described it -- i missed the one on the back end of the first question. i will allow you to go back and

talk about trade again, wrapping up your comments. >> that's ok. lucky me. you noticed that congressman young never explained why he has voted repeatedly for the tax deduction that is shipping their jobs to mexico. for our viewers at home, companies like carrier get to deduct the costs from their taxes, and congressman young thinks that's fine. it's not fine that is something i'm going to fight to change. he also mentioned trade agreements. i voted against cafta. he was against the tpp until he had a deathbed conversion. tradeoing to get tough on by standing up against illegal subsidies that a effects intellectual-property theft, and

we also have to make sure that we stop china and other countries from engaging in illegal currency manipulation. thing -- there are so many charges flying around. >> one and one minute. then a wrap up -- ok. first i would like to thank lucy for raising the topic of what we can do to help rural indiana. that's absolutely right. i am for broadband expansion into rural communities. i'm for more research into better crops. i think that would be good ethanol, goodana for corn growers, even though the congressman has voted against it. i will shock all of you and agree with something he said. we have had too many rules and regulations making it harder for indiana farmers. i think we need to timeout on that.

but congressman young lobbed all these false allegations around. it is flat out not around. it's flat out not true that i am for the death tax. in fact, i disagree with hillary clinton. congressman young has voted with the lobbyist in the insurance companies if consistently voted for hoosier interest and i will. yourator: mrs. brenton, have one minute s rebuttal. ms. brenton: we need to stop playing political tricks with our farmers lives for which crop is a winner or loser depending on who is contributing to your campaign. that needs to stop. so what i would like to see across the board legalization of commercial hemp, ednd our dependence on foreign oil. second of all, if our tax and

regulation was not driving businesses out of the country , then we would not see them flee to mexico because a lack of certainty in our tax code in order to get the of loophole to drive a truck through. let's end that contribution is . a 0% income-tax rate to a level that playing field in countries around the world for find their giving business to us. moderator: mr. young, your two minutes on the topic. rep. young: thank you. obamacare has been a job killer a disaster for this economy. premiums are going up so high in this state of indiana. deductibles are so high. people have insurance through obamacare. it is really a millstone around

our economy. perhaps you need to spend a little more time in indiana as i have to see the real impact of obamacare. i think of lori and lebanon. she is a waitress, her husband is a truck driver who has some health problems. he can no longer drive his truck. there obamacare premium was $26 a month. originally. they thought that was a great deal. then it was $343 and next year now it is $1,100 a month they . now they are taking the penalty. moderator: thank you. mr. bayh, you have a minute. mr. bayh: there is a real human cost to what comes when young wants to do. he wants to take period -- he wantsay from.

to take insurance away from 350,000 hoosiers. this is something of the governor did. he was in charge women more for their health insurance than men just because they happen to be female. there is also a real human cost to congressman young wanting to lift the cap on insurance company profits to charge you with everything want. unlimited profits come unlimited premium increases. that is not right. there is a human cost that he wants to reopen the donut hole, forcing parents and grandparents on prescription drugs. those are real people who will be heard in real ways if congressman young is able to do what he wants to do in the united states senate.

but we need to do is fix the part of the law that can be fixed and keep those that are working well. me to increase the definition of a workweek week to 40 hours a week. we need to lift the cap on small businesses and help those of the individual marketplace with have lower costs of health insurance by having competition across state lines. and having more strength very see -- and having more transparency to have the lowest cost option. not harm people. not drive premiums up. therator: mrs. brenton, floor is now yours. ms. brenton: thank you. mr. young, mr. bayh, you have both spent so much time in in d.c. that i am afraid it has turned you to the dark side. in fact, why are discussing programs that people are forced to buy? let the free market work. why are we not discussing that

the government is forcing through taxation to buy a product they do not want or need? i have beautiful children, seven and girls and three boys -- you should charge me more because i am more likely to use it, but in the free-market to negotiate the health care company but is it of being forced down my throat instead of having a $15,000 cost i could've had that $5,000 home birth cost paid for by my health insurance instead. in fact, the only thing i can say to the american people that these and not the senators you are looking for. moderator: mr. young, you have a chance to wrap up. rep. young: clearly evan bayh has become a creature of washington. this is not about obamacare, this is how he handled the situation. hoosiers voted to repeal this law.

andave a lot of good ideas, the reason we have had a policy war in this country's because there is no consensus on the front end. that is not it. he then left us with higher health care costs. why did you do after that? he took the money and ran. he joined a major lobbying firm in washington, d.c., and he represented clients needed relief from the very problem he created from obamacare. meanwhile come out premiums skyrocket. he left us while our doctors were lost. we lost our doctors and specialists. evan, when we needed a senator most, you left us to work with them, and now we can hold you accountable. we need to hold evan bayh accountable. moderator: we had the final question of the night. we are literally out of town in bayh he has voted. mr. bayh: he is flat out wrong. moderator: we have 30 seconds for each of you.

we start with mr. young. why would voters think your the best candidate to represent them in washington? rep. young: after eight years of the obama-clinton policies, americans are left with debt, doubt, despair, and a broken health care system. we need more indiana in washington, less washington in indiana. i know those career politicians who want to clean house buchanan . some think, "i want to send in the marines." well, you can send one. put people before politics could i humbly ask for your vote. brenton: i feel like a need to step away because they are slinging so much mud i am wearing a white suit. when the banks were too big to fail and the taxpayers had to bail them out, i say we are too small to drown.

stop building new businesses, stop bailing out your cronies, keep the tax payer money in our pockets. you can send in a mom. mr. bayh: i am running for united states senate to solve the challenges that they face to help create good jobs and fair trade deals that will not send jobs from carrier to mexico. i'm running to make college more affordable, building on the scholars program to send 70,000 of the young people to college , even though congressman young has voted to cut the programs and raising interest rate. democrats and libertarians to do what to do what is right to help you because that is what this election should be all about. moderator: we have a hard out for the stations around the state, so we will say good night. thanks for watching and listening around the state. we want to give a special thank y and to the league of

women voters who have been helping to keep the time clock, which is very important. you can still submit questions for our last gubernatorial debate. october 25th at the university of southern indiana at evansville. you can do that by going to the website. on behalf of the indiana debate commission, from all of us yea here, have a great night. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] ♪ today, health and human services secretary silvio burwell gets an update live at here on c-span.

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mr. vice president, i am that man. [laughter] al, your great-grandfather was my favorite kind of governor -- the kind who ran for president and lost. [laughter] romney: al, you are right, a campaign can change wardrobe changes, sport over dinner, but it is nice to finally relax and where what an and i wear around the house. foundation dinner with hillary clinton and donald trump at 9:00 eastern on c-span listen at.org, and 1:00 p.m. eastern with the c-span radio app. are arriving for tonight's final state dinner at the white house.

italy's prime minister, matteo hisi, will be arriving with wife shortly. on the guest list, some notable faces you may see, josh earnest from the white house, along with many members of the president's cabinet, along with business leaders, members of congress, at the close -- italian-american herself -- will be there. people of the media -- gil kane, rachael ray, chuck todd will be also went to funny, who will be the entertainment tefani, -- also gwen s who will be the entertainment tonight, will be there with her boyfriend, blake shelton here we will show you some of those arrivals you're coming up on c-span, but in the meantime, we talked withly the ambassador to the united states from italy about preparations for tonight's state

dinner, and also about who this prime minister is. take a look. ambassador, how did the state visit, about with the italian prime minister? event that important shows the special relationship between as lee and the united states. and the relationship between president obama and the prime minister. did we get selected for the presidents last state partners and are allies and have very strong community in the united states. share the same view of many international topics. they do consider that democracies have to stand together, and both the united states and italy have special responsibilities.

>> why now? why now for italy? will be aext year member of the united basin -- june 8 -- united nations security council here. it is important that instantly, the prominent member of the eu considers border integration. frameworkean broader are the priorities of discussions between the president and the prime minister. >> drive -- describe the u.s. italian relationship? military, we are standing side by side in many the others. we share responsibility and our common endeavor to fight terrorism.

we want to tackle the global issues ranking from climate change to migration. these are issues where countries have a great tradition like actually, and it shares the same interest and am wrote -- approach. >> what is going on this week at the embassy as you print or for the a dinner? >> there is a great sense of its site meant -- excitement. we have many things to care about, but the thing that myself and my staff we are very happy to >> what kind of a leader is the prime minister? >> he is a young, talented leader, very dynamic. the youngest prime minister ever in its late. he brings this sense of enthusiasm, a sense of italian personality. --m sure that the american

will come to know and love a young guy, the way he will be here with his spouse. hereericans will see him with his wife, americans will see the pageantry that goes into the type of visit like this. what is the core nation like between the prime minister's office, the embassy and our government? >> we acted co-op ration with .ur colleagues in france the secret service, there are so many things to take care of. celebration, we are happy that we can share it with our friends and colleagues at this moment. protocol for the italian prime minister? >> it is conflicted when it comes to a state visit. we will try to follow the

different procedures. what really matters is that we consider this as a celebration it isendship, but also important for us to draw a common agenda. >> what is the future agenda looking like? you talk about the military, but what arrow -- but what else? may draw a line between the different topics and issues. both president obama and the prime minister share the same approach, we do consider that globalization requires on the part of leaders care, we have to honor this process. there are many opportunities ahead of us. does the prime minister have any concerns that he will talk to the president when he has his

meeting sign close stores? >> they know each other very well and have had very many meetings on different national --. they work together area well. what the prime minister will , a deep understanding that in order to tackle these challenges, our countries and democracies have two build .ridges and stay connected integration is the only way to harness this process. italiando you think the people are hoping to get out of this visit for their country? will they be watching? >> italians are excited. i think they will all be seen

together at the white house, i think this will be a great image . they will give the sign of a --.ng >> thank you for your time. we appreciate it. the italian ambassador to the united states. we spoke with him last night dinneronight 13th state for the obamas. that will be the last for them. hes -- the president said saved the best for last. senator jack reed came in, and more are starting to make their for the the white house reception. they will be able to shake the hand of the prime minister and the president and first lady. there has been a tent erected for tonight's state dinner. there are 400 state guests.

southill be going to the lawn for their dinner tonight. we will continue to watch year the arrival of the guests. live coverage here on c-span. >> mr. john rogers junior and ms. marion brooks. >> mr. stephen hightower. >> mr. and mrs. solo.

>> we are going over to the north portico, the color guard are standing at attention waiting for the arrival of the time it is. let's listen now. -- waiting for the arrival of the run minister. prime minister.

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the closeness within the family. >> mr. mark smith and ms. nina smith.

>> mrs. kathy burns and mr. kenneth burns. >> mr. henry goldberg and mrs. goldberg. >> mrs. gail mcgovern and mr. donald mcgovern.

steve benjamine and mrs. benjamin. >> mr. wilson powell.

>> mr. chuck todd and mrs. tristan todd. -- kristen todd.

>> miss rachel ray and mr. john cusumano. >> i think i should only come .ere in sneakers

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excited to see them. >> mr. george stephanopoulos and miss alexandra wentworth. i am so glad i am here. i love the obamas.

been in the white house correspondents dinner. this is a big milestone for me. my first day dinner. and fake diamond earrings and a real wedding band. what are you wearing? baby gap probably. he wants me to leave.

kelly devil and mr. andrew dibble and and andrew dibble. mr. greg heard and mrs. greg heard. >> miss mackenzie smith and mrs. pam smith.

>> the honorable sarah lewis and tyler lichtenberg. >> mr. jerry sign held and mrs.

jessica fine held. -- jessica seinfeld. >> i have a couple of cannoli one-liners. >> we spend a lot of time traveling in italy and we are most exclusively love italian . it is hard not to be

overwhelmed by all of this. a history that is here. the food. had his food many times. we are happy to have it again. >> thank you. >> the honorable andrew cuomo and ms. sandra lee.

>> what are you looking forward to the most tonight? >> just a special treat to be here. i have the good fortune to be here during the clinton administration. i have not been back in a long time. there is a special symbolism in the last date dinner -- state dinner. it is great to be here was sandra. -- with sandra. we are very excited about mario bertelli's menu. mario but talley's menu.

miss savannah guthrie and mr. michael feldman. >> mr. evan williams and mrs. sarah williams. and mrs. anddoerr

door. door. >> mr. giorgio monie -- armani.

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thorn.horn and mrs. rose mr. mario andretti and mrs. barbara andretti --. >> tell us what you are most looking forward to? just looking forward --

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ms. -- and mr. colin omara. >> mr. john byner and miss emily

byner. >> mr. rick stengel and mrs. .ary stangl the honorable jonathan winer and ms. libby lewis.

the honorable bill padudo and mr. frank padudo. mr. carl ray. mr. johnny wright.

>> the first one, i am so excited. i am glad to be here. oh god, i don't know. --ould probably have to say that was a lot of fun. >> what is the next step for you? >> i don't know. i probably will do more beauty and fashion. it is all out there. thank you. what they say.

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dr. paul boskin. mr. rutherford seidel and ms. laura seidel. mr. john schulman. schulman.on

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mr. thomas brown. mr. mill plant. mrs. robin smith.

mr. fabbricio frera. mrs. angela kennedy. mr. henry kennedy junior.

mr. mark lander. ms. angela tomb. sundar puchai.

mr. charles ward. mr. michael lombardo. mr. james taylor. mrs. kim taylor. >> we performed at a dinner for chancellor angela merkel.

>> familiar. ->> what are you looking forward to? >> it is exciting to be here. >> thank you. ms. cynthia friedman. mr. bill bone.

mr. jim chanos. ms. cristal connors. mr. michael pulls key. olski. mrs. tonya ploski. the honorable josh earnest.

mrs. natalie ernest. ms. burglary -- maria --

the honorable catherine russell. the honorable thomas donovan. the honorable samantha power. the honorable cass son unstein. >> not a transnational threat.

it is nice to celebrate that partnership. thank you. >> mr. david bradley. mrs. catherine bradley. mrs. janet keller. ms. leslie ray.

ambassador earth or in cousin -- ambassador cousin. sejas.ador paul

mr. khan and mrs. khan. >> is the best thing in the world. thet of all, besides being first lady. -- think the best about it.

she pushes the american designers. [indiscernible] >> amazing. she is classy. classic fashion. fashionmade american top. something you would like to see her where that she could not wear as a first lady? super has not been glamorous or casual. she is talents. she should be just the way she is. what is the pressure like to design for her? >> you are nervous. easy, i know so

the body. the colors. fox what are you looking forward to tonight? >> having fun with my friends. >> mr. conrad tribble. mrs. christina tribble.

chance the wrapper. -- rapper. mr. ken bennett. >> were you most looking forward to? >> i hope there is dancing. some music played. i am very high -- i'm a great dancer. seriously.ery >> did you ever see a self at a state dinner? >> no, not at all. >> how do you feel? >> amazing.

[indiscernible] this is ralph lauren. yeah, this is ralph lauren. >> do think you're treating donald trump fairly? no. [indiscernible] -- plays up his strengths. thank you guys. i appreciate it. >> the honorable jeh johnson, secretary of homeland security. and dr. susan dimarco.

mr. frank ocean. >> first time at a state dinner? >> first time doing it. probably because my first time here. >> what was the thinking? [indiscernible] >> what are you looking forward

to tonight? fundking obama if he had these last eight years. congratulating him also. >> did you ever see yourself at a state dinner? >> no, i didn't. >> a lot of your musicians are putting support behind hillary clinton. do you see yourself doing that? >> concerts, probably not. concerts, probably not. >> other ways? >> maybe, i don't know. we are running out of time, i think. >> thanks so much.

rurant.acqueline to ms. carutz. >> hello, i am the last one. before we get to that, we want to get about tonight. here is giuliana, a former social secretary. from 2010-2011. we saw the guests coming in.

how do you get an invitation? excitings the most thing. there is a lot of planning that guest listutting the together. it is a building wide endeavor. you work with the west wing. nsc. different departments. and then some outside. other parts of the administration. you come up with a list. and then you have meetings upon meetings. people, fighting for their need to have somebody in. thes a fun thing to put list together.

not fit in thed house. the state dining room, 200. 200 people plus their guests. >> when and how did he invites go out? >> there are calligraphers in the white house. master calligraphers. they get the list with addresses. they find the address for them. goes right, they go out about six weeks ahead of time. >> what is required of you? >> rsv. rsvp. friend invites you to a state dinner. i would say, if you are invited

to a state dinner, do everything you can to get there. ask to many people say they cannot make it? >> not very many. >> are they told to keep it a secret? not come outt did until an hour before the dinner. >> we didn't tell people to keep it a secret, but it is kind of braggartly. you probably do keep it under raps a little bit. but you know a few months out to the country is going to be. to befriend we are going honoring. we will talk about some of the notable faces we saw coming through the east garden room. to show thet viewers what happened moments thewhen the president and prime minister of italy and their spouses dissented the grand -- descended the grand

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>> the prime minister and president of the united states coming down the grand staircase. they will go off to receive their guests, one by one, and shake their hands. it was noted on twitter when the first lady came out, she is ersace. for such a. -- v one view were, she is watching just to see flotus's dress. we will see that as we talk about the state dinner and the last eight years of the obama administration. i want to show you how the first statennounced tonight's dinner. she did it via snapchat. let me show you as she put out

this video. stefaniphani -- gwen who is the entertainment put out this video via twitter. the first lady did it with a bunch of notepads. notes. talking about the date. she went on to announce it would be at the white house with a ali.t chef, mario but this is how this was announced to the world. joining us is the former social secretary for the administration. the fondness for social media, announcing it that way. >> it is the great. i did two state dinners, mexico and china. we did it traditionally. snapchat is a great way to do it. i love it.

firstresident is the president to have a blackberry. i think he still has one, i don't know. you can reach so many more people. it is a great way to mitigate -- with -- to communicate with everyone. >> people are excited about the pomp and circumstance at the white house. what the first lady is going to wear, who is going to be invited. we talked about some of the folks that came through, 400 guests. first of all, let's talk about how you decide members of congress. talk aboutn so let's members of congress. what is the approach to how they decide? which members of congress should be invited? >> the legislative affairs office is great at the white house.

as toave a lot of input who should be invited. we want to make it bipartisan, the same number of republicans as democrats. you put the invitations out. a lot of members are back in their home districts, campaigning or whatever. i didn't see a lot of members. >> nancy pelosi, of course. legislative affairs has a huge role. they are trying to get as many members of congress as possible. engagementof public wants to invite folks. it is a huge amount of compromise and debate. >> many names in the media. chuck todd. gayle king of cbs.

what is the rationale behind inviting the media? shop puts a lot of effort into who they want to see there. it is a way for them to see dinner and state ten have a part of the experience. been 13 of them, they have been able to spread it out. the >> surprising people showing up. chance the rapper. >> his dad is a former colleague of mine, working with then senator obama. longtime chicago friend. great seeing him there. >> also, jerry seinfeld. one of the reporters said, you are not italian. why are you here? is there thinking about, let's

think some people and think about our future? >> you saw a number of wonderful chefs. rachael ray. their friend, mario batali helping prepare the meal. read aty of ideas cross-section of america, really. comedian.n actor or ultimately who gets the invitation. >> is the prime minister get to invite anyone? >> yes. his government leaders, leaders within his government. ,here are a few celebrities italian celebrities. they get to come, too. that takes up acer certain number of spots as well in the dinner. >> giorgio armani.

tell our viewers a little bit about him. born in florence, 1975. arid, three children. married, three children. became the mayor of florence at age 34. 2014, he became the youngest prime minister of italy. name, thethe demolition man, for his out oldess to toss programs. he has been called a progressive. the president refers to the changes he is willing to make. he has the nato alliance. the military cooperation. the trade. is that, how much of it is

policy when the white house is thinking about, who should we invite? >> that is the majority, that is how they decide what country to invite and what state heads should be honored and invited with a state dinner and state visit. along with that comes the arrival ceremony. nsc determining that, as well as the state department. made, it becomes an administration wide effort to make sure we are showing the friendship. >> i want our viewers to take a look at the administration and the countries they have chosen to honor. india's prime minister.

that, the president of mexico, china. and then germany, south korea. the u.k., france, japan, china, canada. the nordic leaders were all invited. singapore and then italy. singapore was just august 2. what you make about the turnover? fabulousthinking, this social secretary, she has had four this year. about as much as we have had. i think we probably worked through a lot of the kinks. not that there are kinks. arestaff at the white house true professionals and can help you get through anything.

did the approach to state dinners change over the years? >> they have fun with it. celebrating and honoring a good friendship and diplomatic ties. it is going to have entertainment, wonderful food. they want to have lightheartedness. tonight, we are celebrating a accomplishment's. >> speaking of entertainment, here is an article. sons --phani and her meetstefani and her sons the president. this is his 13th. he also had an official visit for the pope. compare that to george w. bush,

who had 11 state dinners. clinton, who had 28. what do you make of those numbers? fors that is a lot of work president clinton social secretaries. i think is a difference of style. i don't think it indicates a whole lot. years, it does take a lot of effort. it is a building wide endeavor. month, i don't know how many that was, that is a lot of work. ask how many staff, staff working on it? >> everybody. everybody is there. clearly, today was perfect.

it is nerve-racking. you have butterflies in your stomach. what it was like, here we go again, wanting to make sure everything was perfect. months intions start advance? >> three or four. you bring up the guest list, where you want to do it. 200 people. if you want to bring in a guest li,f, like mario nbata sometimes white house chef is the person that does the dinners. the florist has to design which colors to use. the seasonality of these. some of the desserts are going

to be pumpkins and apples and things like that. that goes into it, too. july, let'saugust, think about how it will be october. >> we will show our viewers the state dinner preview. yesterday. the chef speaks. the current social secretary said they were working over the weekend. today have volunteers that help them out? >> not during state dinners so much. you are probably putting the tent up. we had a tent. i remember having to be there. making sure it all went ok. they were very accomplished.

>> what about the cost? italy, the first dinner, cost $1 million. compared to singapore, which 203,000. of 3000 -- $ department pays for the state dinners. they are a true partner. she held my hand through it all. it models how many folks you invite, if you do a tent, that tends to be more expensive. very based on the number of folks that are there.

>> people remember it because of the white house crashers. when you took over in 2010, what changes were made to make sure that did not happen again? >> the state dinner for india was beautiful. the chef, marcus samuelson, it was wonderful. that was beautiful. it was a shame we had crashers come in. it was a matter of making sure we communicated very clearly and the list, made sure we knew every person on the lists. a few little tweaks here and there. >> a lot of fretting about that? >> a little but fretting. secret service is in charge of this evening? >> they are wonderful, they are great partners. they will make sure everything goes smoothly and unobtrusively.

>> for the guest list, do people have to supply their social security and all that sensitive information? >> you have to order a government issued id. on an airplane. you have to get your social security number, date and place of birth. you are checked in by the secret service and then one more time on the east side of the building. you go through, make sure there is nothing on your person. dinner, there are some interesting leaders honored at the dinner. protocol when a leader comes by themselves? >> i think they held it -- handled it perfectly. you got annexed receipt.

an extra seat. there were celebrities he got to sit between. i think it worked out perfectly. >> honoring the nordic countries. what would the logistics be like? >> i would have been kicking, saying are you sure this is a good idea? was aeat about it, it group of countries we do have close relationships with. it was wonderful to have them altogether. the issue is, when anybody has a dinner party at their home, you want to make sure you have their dietary restrictions right. you have to make sure that is

the case for all of the leaders. it can be different and time-consuming. that is where the protocol office helps us. >> what are they telling you? how do they prepare you? placey have systems in for a long time. they work with the honored , saying, what does he not like? if he hates carrots, there will not be carrots. you find out these things ahead of time. and if you are a vegetarian, we will make sure you have a vegetarian plate. >> we will talk more about the arrangementsal coming up. let's talk more about what we saw earlier. arrival, thetico front door of the white house. where is the guest of honor coming from before they arrive?

they are coming from where they are staying. some folks stay at blair house. some folks might be staying at the italian ambassador's house. we couldn't drive through the north portico. it is exciting make it to drive right in. >> it is right across the street from the white house which is where the prime minister and wife are staying. they turn, the couple's turn and then they go back inside. where do they go from there? upstairs topside -- the private residence. they have a smaller reception in the home, what is the president

and first lady's home. the leadership and both governments up there as well to mix and mingle for about 20 minutes. and then the colors are resented to the president. and then you saw them walk down the stairs. the colors? >> the flags of our countries. you go up and say, are you ready to receive the colors? they go down the stairs. >> what is the tradition behind this? what is the tradition behind this? >> that is a good question. you are coming into our country's home. the white house, the people's house. also in their personal quarters, their private quarters.

the marine band plays, sometimes, healed to the chief. -- hail to the chief. what happens next? receivinge doing the line. i would imagine, the four of them would stand in the blue room. the guests would be announced. into theake their way tent on the south lawn. when do the toasts take place? that would probably be coming up shortly. i don't know how they are getting down to the tent.

it is a beautiful day so women do not have to have their heels sink in. all kinds of logistics to move that many folks from the building down to the tent. i saw that before at the mexico state dinner, to get folks down. ,any of the ladies attending they will be making their way gingerly. a lot of people waiting to hear what she will be wearing. that is something we talked with the fashion critic for the washington post. take a listen to what she had to tell us. obamabe the michelle

style. her state dinner style. i think when she dresses for grand state occasions, the thing that distinguishes her sensibility from that of the first lady is it is much more rooted in a contemporary hollywood idea of what is going on. by that i mean, she is not wearing anything revealing. ofre is a certain kind modern edge to it that taps in what we are used to seeing coming down the red carpet. less regal and more glamorous. >> has it changed over the last eight years? be, inwalk has gotten to some ways, a little more relaxed

if that makes sense. when i think back to the first state dinner for india, the dress is gorgeous. shebang.he whole she looked wonderful. dinners, whenter she wore a dress by curling a inarera -- by carol herrera, there was an in for melody. it felt more like glamorous sports where. >> what do you think the impact has been on the role of first lady but also, some have called them diplomatic art? the first thing is, we all

want to be proud of the people in the white house. in that way, we want to be proud of their hospitality. we want them to put their best foot forward. the notion of fashion is something that is embedded into their culture. areher part of it is, these momentous moments. house that is a norm s. into thely puts them public vernacular in a way red carpets do not but puts them in the history book. it lends a certain gravity to

what they do. a certain gravity to the american fashion industry is food,s important as the the auto industry. all of the other things that go into creating that state dinner. >> how does she go about choosing her dress and choosing the designer? >> when we paint each other's my sense is the first thing is she wears what she wants. she wears what she feels comfortable in. i think there is some attention country beingm honored. an effort to a knowledge that directly by working with the designer who has that sort of ethnicity in their background. sometimes it is just a matter of

paying tribute to a particular owerr or flour that is -- fl that is important to that country. >> last year, you wrote, she chose a vera wang dress. it was a diplomatic clarification. can you explain? >> now i am trying to remember what it looked like? as opposed to the one she chose for the first state dinner? >> the first dinner, it was beautiful, it was red. designed by sarah burton. a british fashion house. vera wang is a very well-known chinese-american. around, she had gotten criticism from

particularly the american industry, who felt this was one of the occasions she had the opportunity to elevate american design and to wear a dress by an american designer. industry felt she had missed an opportunity. this was a bit of a do over. there was any knowledge and -- and knowledge meant -- an acknowledgement the first time was a misstep. wasought the herrera dress nice. of the lastnd

one. it was such a surprise. one of the things she does quite well, one of the reasons people are eager to see what she is going to wear, is because she does not just go with design houses that have been around for decades. brendan mackerel hasn't even been in business for more than a year. wore before, had not been in business very long. that is really nice to see. she is supporting small businesses. in the true sense of the word. >> thank you for your time. and tonight's state dinner dress versace.r such a --

tweeting, she looks flawless. ceis comes from the versa fashion house. the first lady has had a major impact on the fashion industry. , following anlue appearance by the first lady, was $14 million. the dresses often sell out immediately. this diplomatic art. she tries to think about the diplomacy aspect. >> robin said it best. when you are honoring a certain country, she looks for a designer that might have a british background in their history.

versace.n, is a wonderfully talented in doing that and looking so beautiful. it was so exciting looking and seeing those dresses. >> does she approached designers? do designers approached the white house? likes andws what she she is really good at it. on the other side, they are clamoring to dress her. >> does she have a stylist? she is a wonderful person who helps the first lady. you can see the work that goes into that. >> the first lady has a natural style, too. these dresses by these designers

are really expensive dresses. does she pay for them herself or does she paid full price? >> yes, she does. >> to these designers ever donate the dresses? >> i think they do. i think it is a case-by-case basis. >> did they go to the national archives? >> i think that is the plan, maybe going to the obama library. some of the libraries have their spouses dresses on there we will see after they leave. >> why is the designer kept secret? >> that's funny. watching this, that is one of the highlights of working there. it's not like we were getting ready to say ok, guys, what do you think? we all have our headset pieces

in and we think, oh she looks stunning, she looks great. she looked gorgeous. all the first ladies do when it's happening, i think. it's an exciting time. what about the president? >> he just wears a tex ito and looks great. >> has he worn the same tax the the whole -- tuxedo time? >> i am not sure. this is a story i can tell you. we saw the president and the prime minister come down the grand staircase. he was getting ready for a state trip to china, his button fell off. we were like, what are we going to do? around and find some thread and so the button back on. crisis averted. people were like, what took so long? i will tell you later.

host: what was his reaction? guest: it's fine, it's fine. it all worked out. look back atake a michelle obama's design choices and dress choices over the past eight years. fromt together a montage the c-span archives. take a look. ♪

host: a look back at the first ladies dress choice for the past eight years at the 12 state dinners. tonight is the 13th state dinner administration, and it is the last. they are honoring italian prime minister matteo renzi, who is at the white house with his wife and 400 of their closest friends who have been invited to tonight's state dinner. there taking a look back at last eight years and what the approach has been from this administration to the state dinners. juliana is here with us in

studio, former social secretary for the administration. i just went to get your reaction to this. guest chefi is the tonight. why a guest chef? is this unprecedented? guest: i do not know if the obama's were the first to bring in a guest chef or not, but it's a great idea, and mario, i wish we could get a sampling of the food. for the one i did for mexico, we had written a less -- rick and it was wonderful. he fixed an amazing meal and everyone was thrilled. it can be intimidating for these chefs. they prepare wonderful cuisine, but probably not for 200 people that all has to be served t the same time.

that is where chris comerford comes in, the white house chef, who is just fabulous. i think she loves having these guest chefs. she gets to show them how she does things. she is right there beside them making sure everything gets out on time. the: mario was part of preparations. as we were talking, he was sending photos on instagram. squash.es of you can imagine the logistics of trying to get hot food out. guest: but they know how to do it. it's like the flight of the butterflies, almost. it's beautiful. host: what is the kitchen like on a night like this? inst: when they do it dinner the state dining room, they have an old family dining room just off the state dining room where they have it all set up. they have the paper down on the

floor, stations set and ready to go. it is a huge production. tables and all the the stations and get it out. het: mario told one reporter wanted to bring his own ingredients and he was surprised when the white house said you can't. what kind of security is there around the president's food? guest: it's very secure, of course. the white house has it under lock and key and knows exactly what is coming in and what will be served. happened once with me, but they understand. host: tonight's entertainment, gwen stephani will be performing. how many songs will she saying, typically? guest: probably two or three, i would think. they had the state dinner for mexico, beyonce was there, which was great. host: how do they go about

deciding who the entertainment is question mark is at the first ladies decision? and thehe first lady president have conversations about it and decide who they would like to come, who the honored guest is a fan of. it goes back to protocol. you know what flowers they like, what do they like, what kind of food they like. it's a research project. learned about the flowers and food that will be served tonight when we did a state dinner preview. take a look. >> good afternoon. i am the white house social secretary. it is my honor and privilege to welcome you here today for the press preview of the state dinner. tomorrow, president and mrs. the attackwell come -- welcome the italian prime minister for the 13th and final of thisnner

administration. get into the delicious cuisine we plan on serving, i want to tell you about the decorah. tomorrow's dinner will be taking place on the south lawn in a tent covered in chandeliers and mirrored cocktail tables to reflect the beautiful bouquet and candlelight. we will have handmade glassware as well as neo-florentine hand-painted goldleaf charcoal. you to theay a thank many people who put this together. as you can imagine, we have a huge team of folks who help, including the secret service, the military office, the state executive, the office, the white house communication agency, and the security council. executiveand i cannot do any os without my fabulous social office team who are here today, who are going to introduce themselves.

quakes hi there. i am lauren kelly, deputy social secretary, originally from des moines, iowa. >> i am the deputy associate director in the social office, and i am from the bay area. >> i am also deputy associate director in the social office. i am originally from new york city. >> i am a deputy associate director in the social office and i am from silver spring, maryland. >> [indiscernible] and i am from indianapolis, indiana. is working to make the visit so wonderful for you tomorrow. without further a do, i will send it over to charlie from the security council. quakes could afternoon, everyone. i am the specialists --

>> could afternoon, everyone. i am be a special assistant to the director -- , everyone.ernoon i am a special assistant to the director for european affairs. the official visit and state dinner to honor the prime minister and his wife provides an opportunity for the president to build on a strong betweenship that exists the united states and italy, as well as to build on the strong, personal friendship that the president has built with prime minister renzi over the last few years. the president sees this as a very important meeting and an opportunity to reciprocate for the hospitality that the prime both to the shown president as well as to his family and italy. wants to essentially demonstrate the strength of the relationship with italy, as well as to get behind and put wind in of sales of someone -- sails

someone he sees as one of the most promising politicians in europe. the president and prime minister sher a great deal of common ground. prime minister renzi is in the some very important political and economic reforms in italy, attempting to streamline the political system and make it more effective. he is attempting to boost growth in employment through structural reforms. these are issues the president and prime minister will discuss tomorrow, and the president strongly supports the efforts of the prime minister to undertake these reforms. i think president obama also sees in prime minister renzi someone who is very important to the future of europe. it goes without saying that europe has faced tough times over the last couple of years. sluggish growth, the migration , a moregee crisis

aggressive russia, and all of this has combined to create an undercurrent of populism and besteu sentiment, perhaps exemplified by the recent vote in the united kingdom to move toward an exit from the eu prime minister renzi is someone who believes in a strong and integrated europe. he is someone who has laid out an agenda in conversations with his european counterparts about how to revitalize the european project, realogy demise it, brief new life into it. re-legitimate it, breathe finn to it. his progrowth agenda is one life intoobama -- new it. his progrowth agenda is one

president obama supports. this is a topic that will be at the center of the discussions tomorrow. let me briefly run through what i think the conversation will focus on. first, reforms domestically in italy, but also within europe to help drive forward the project of integration, to speak to the needs of average europeans, to boost growth, to bring down unemployment, particularly among .uropean youth there will obviously be a conversation about the ongoing migration crisis. the situation in the aegean has improved. be oncus tomorrow will the central mediterranean, where we continue to see migrants coming. there will be a discussion of how to address that crisis in an orderly and humane way. there will be a discussion of the cooperation between the

united states and italy on everything from the counter isil campaign to defense cooperation in nato and the efforts by europeans and americans to advance the fight against terrorism. , i expect there to be a conversation about the ongoing conflict in ukraine and how the united states can work with italy and at least european address a europe that is confronted with a more aggressive russia. i will now turn things over to .he executive pastry chef susan: good afternoon, everyone. my name is susan morrison. almost everybody calls me susie. i have a desert in my hand that is a flaky and ellicott crust delicate crust

filled with a tender batterer and lightly poached green apple. and a a caramel sauce soft crumble top tube with a topped withelato -- a buttermilk gelato. in keeping with the theme of the have a handmade dessert creation made of chocolate and poured sugar that includes a chocolate pumpkin , and of course we have to have a little chocolate beehive. pastryiature selections include a pumpkin iramisu,y tart, term

80 chocolate fig leaf, and an orange -- a chocolate fig leaf, and an orange slice. thank you. >> good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. i am the white house executive chef. the state dinner tomorrow will celebrate our fall harvest and a lot of italian dishes that have been embraced in our american cuisine. as part of the canapes we will be passing, we will have smoked rainbow trout, roasted figs from california, some wonderful basil , crab cannoli, how much he from

hawaii,- a dish from sweet and sour eggplant. we have some rosemary that came from the garden. our objective is to utilize as much as we have from our fall garden harvest. for the main course, we are doing a classic italian dish in aan american beef ancote.pe it is kind of a 10 minute diversion of the normal flank of a that -- version normal flank steak that would be praised for hours. we have a butternut squash and pumpkin finished off with a cheese from new york. for the first course, we are serving a sweet potato onion motif that has been garnished

with a wonderful monterey jack and wenoma, california, have used a lot of wonderful all of oils that are part of sonoma county, california. i think that's it for dinner. right? [indiscernible] [laughter] >> hello, everybody. and i ams mario c helping to make the dinner tomorrow. we have a lot of work to do. our day is full. i brought you a taste of one of the dishes we are making. i am going to pass it around. i am proud to be here. i am proud to be an american.

>> celebrity chefs and restaurant tour mario vitali surprising the media, giving them a taste of the state dinner tonight. it's underway at the white house and we have coverage of it here on c-span for all of you. we showed you the north portico arrival and the descending down the grand staircase. toastt is the traditional the two leaders will be giving each other. we will try to bring that to you live if we can hear on c-span. in the meantime, julianna smoot is with us in studio to talk about the last eight years as social secretary. let's talk about the seating arrangement. who decides who is sitting where and by whom they are sitting? compromise is a huge

as well. if you have planned a wedding or a dinner party where you have talkative guests and not talkative guests, you have to take that into account. the tables seat eight. generally, the president and first lady like to have couples sit together. theould be that they sit at same table, which would be fine. you would have couples together. a couple of italians and a couple of americans, government leaders at each table, and then you would stick them in with, you know, the regular people. gwen stephani, if she were going to eat. -- you do aut number of friend through his for that. -- you do a number of run throughs for that. somebody cancels last minute

or has an rsvp at the last minute, there are last-minute glitches, but you need to start the seating chart probably three days ahead of time to get it going. there is no panic like not having the seating chart. host: some of the regular folks tonight include chance the rapper, who tweeted this out. also, frank ocean tweeting. showing off his footwear for the evening. fromt lots of questions reporters about why he decided vans this evening. it would be interesting to know .hat table they are sitting at in terms of choosing the plate

where, the glassware, what are those conversations like? there are all different kinds of china you can use for state dinners. sometimes it depends on what you are serving. if you are having a red sauce, you might not want to put it on an orange bordered china. a matter of figuring out how many people are coming. my last state dinner, i wanted to do finger bowls. i thought that would be so great. the butler's said it could be a bit of an issue because people don't use finger bowls. you would have to explain it at every table. so we decided not to do it.

but it was interesting. of course, coming up, the president and prime minister will toast each other and talk -italythe u.s. relationship, something the president has done many, many times over the last eight years. here is a look back at all of the toasts he has given in 2000 -- since 2009. mr. obama: i want to close with the words your first prime minister spoke at that midnight hour on the eve of indian independence because those words speak to our hopes tonight. the achievement we celebrate today is but a step, the opening of opportunity to the great triumphs and achievements that await us. the past is over, and it is the future that beckons us now. and yet, we know that life is , as the extraordinary

writer wrote in one of his poems. you must deserve your dream. chinesed there is a proverb that says if you want one year of prosperity, go green. -- grosgrain. if you want 10 years of prosperity, grow trees. if you want 100 years of prosperity, grow people. so i propose a toast. tonight we honor angela merkel, not for being denied her freedom or even for attaining her freedom, but for what she achieved when she gained her freedom. politics determined to lead a united germany. the first german chancellor in german history and an eloquent voice for human rights and dignity around the world.

this evening, i want your country to know what korea has meant to america. [speaking korean] of our alliance, i think, is embodied in the concept that is uniquely korean. it doesn't translate that easily, but it reflects the affection and bonds of the heart that cannot be broken and grow stronger with time. to her majesty the queen on her diamond jubilee. to our dear friends david and on the great purpose and design of our alliance. we remain, now and always, faithful servants. cheers, everyone. toast.i propose a

to our friend and partner, president hollande, to all of our friends here today. france,. bless america, and long live the alliance between our great -- god bless america, and long live the alliance between our great nations. just as you say in china that the sea excepts 100 rivers -- , our countryivers thetronger when we accept diversity and views and contributions of all of our rivers.

a alliance between the united states and canada. to our friends, justin and sophie. americansship between and canadians. the spirit that binds us together. abidingine, deep, and respect for each and every human being. cheers. if you have visited any of these nordic countries, everything is orderly. everything is clean. everybody is well behaved. even prompted a best-selling book called "the almost nearly perfect people." there were some shockers. apparently, nordic people can aboutto heated arguments which country is happiest. that, as wender pursue a more peaceful and prosperous order in the asian

pacific, our partnership is strategicmore than interests. we are bound together by family and friendship, the dedication of our men and women in uniform flying across the skies, the excitement of our students and entrepreneurs who crossed the oceans to learn and work with each other, and the leadership of a son of singapore who is respected around the world and a trusted partner to the united states. host: president >> president obama giving the traditional toast. a are honoring italy prime minister matteo renzi. julianna smoot, what goes into the toast? who writes these toasts? who gets to have input on them? juliana: they are so eloquent, and the president does them so well, so he ultimately decides.

but the speechwriters, the nsa, and the staff in the white house held put that together, and he is great delivering it. organization the behind the toast. what goes into that, the protocol and the logistics of it? >> that is through the department of state. do a the toast -- they toast, we do a toast, and we know where the glass is. see sometimes he has a different glass than what the leader might have. orchestratedy well . there is a walk-through prior, too, so they know what to do. greta: we are waiting on the toast. that will be coming up shortly. but as we wrap up our conversation with you, julianna

smoot, what advice would you give to the next administration about president obama and michelle obama's of which to state dinners, and -- approach to state dinners, and what would you pass along to the next administration? ianna: i am proud to be an american, but i will -- i am very proud to watch the state dinner. the folks did such a great job. the great thing is it is bipartisan, or nonpartisan. when you get out of the white house or get to the white house, it is amazing how wonderful the staff is. they will let you know, president bush did it well this way. we figured this out with him. we figured this out with president obama. thathere is previous staff will be more than willing to help for the next

administration. italy also gave remarks. ♪ president obama: good evening, everybody.

on behalf of michelle, and myself, welcome to the white house. and welcome to the final state dinner of my presidency. [applause] president obama: in the immortal words of a great italian-american, yogi berra, it ain't over till it is over. we have a wonderful evening ahead of us as we celebrate the great alliance between the united states and italy with our great friends. prime minister matteo renzi and landini.se

is ae to say this remarkable crowd. at first, i was little nervous about this dinner. is called the scrapper. the demolition man. here.berto bengini is as any italian and they will say the dinners can get animated. michelle said to think of this as a typical italian sunday dinner.

remindedwe are american democracy has been graced by the touch of italy. men arearation that all was penned by thomas jefferson and penned by his -- shared by his friend from florence. we stand by the lincoln memorial brothers.e work of sometimes, a presidential campaigns can seem like dante's inferno. [laughter] [applause] all went obama: most of see the spirit of italy and friendships between our people in so many proud italian americans.

i suspect many of you are thinking of your own families. parents, grandparents, great-grandparents who left the who gave everything that they had for the next generation so they could succeed. your presence here shows america an where if you work hard, you can make it if you try. even if we are not italian-american, we can isebrate that mike piazza finally me baseball hall of fame. i want to thank my great friend matteo. he may be the youngest prime minister. he makes me feel old, which is unfortunate. i was thee in, h young guy.

theuld see he represented energy and optimism, that energy and values that can carry italy and america forward. say, i cannot thank you enough for your excellent partnership as we have worked to advance the prosperity of our sins. i understand when you were growing up, your mother would tell you stories about robert kennedy and end by telling you, fight. you fight for the cause of reform, know that we stand with you. i believe italy and the world will continue to benefit for years to come. what of the reasons i am so makedent matteo will outstanding contributions is he has an outstanding partner. our wives keep us humble.

atteo's first claim to fame when he was just 19 years old was he was on italy's version of "wheel of fortune." this is a true story. sweaters ande big whichore were too is an affront to time fashion. matteo may deny it, but there is video. giorgio armani is here and he would be ashamed that the italian prime minister used to wear things like this. you are not alone. when michelle show was in milan, she spoke to young people about eating slowly and savoring your food. unlike president obama, who she said sometimes shovels his food

down. which is true. matteo and iis, both married up. because of our wives, we eat better, we dressed better, we are better, and we thank you both. [applause] president obama: i want to reminisce about my last visit to rome. tteo's ministry of culture, i got to visit the coliseum. you can go there and nobody else is there if you are president. it was late in the day and quiet. ancientched across the steps, it was a humbling

reminder. each of us is only here for a brief moment. so many of the things we focus on each day, the political ups and downs, the successes and setbacks, those things are fleeting. what matters in the end is what we build. what matters is what we leave behind, the things that will and were after we are gone. the poet virgil reminded us, bold.e favors the that we always be bold. fortune smiles upon us. cheers.

and with that, let me bring to the stage, the prime minister of italy. matteo renzi. [applause] >> mr. president, and the first it ismy american friends, an incredible honor. it is incredible to be here with you on this occasion of the last state dinner of president obama. i am really excited. moment this is a special for the history of this country, as the presidency of president obama was a special moment in the life of this great country.

so thank you so much. thank you. [applause] is also an honor for us. thank you for the welcome. i'm in a difficult situation. it is impossible for me to reply after president obama, this said -- it is impossible. can organize after the finish of your service, a dinner in florence. and we can prepare italian ice cream. the best in the world.

fth floor and tying -- tuscan wine. and we can see if the tomatoes from the white house garden are better than our tomatoes. i know, michelle, your tomatoes are great. after the last week, let me be very frank. your speeches are better than your tomatoes. thank you so much. [applause] as prime so much minister and also the father of a young daughter. you know i am a huge fan of you. your first speech for

the presidential run in february, 2007. but when i heard the speech of michelle in philadelphia, i i told, finally, maybe, someone -- michelle obama. this is good. [applause] but let me conclude with a personal consideration. i love a lot of the history of my country. during the renaissance in students masters and worked together for years to produce masterpieces.

the goal is a masterpiece. endured for have the centuries. -- a place where the masters and students try to do better. a new generation has a comprehensive vision of the future. this is mr. president, what you have done for us in this. period.is eight years is important for the international community, not just the united states of america. your service was the service of a master of the renaissance. he worked with us to give us an opportunity.

we worked together exactly with the spirit. try to make better. give a special opportunity to a new generation. rentine, i think i am very grateful to you for your service. new your message, a lot of --ders around the world thank you so much for that, mr. president. thank you, master of renaissance. in italy there is an expression. it is an expression that comes a particular moment in the

dinner or lunch. that comes from latin. wheat, bread. from these, a lot of things. the values of the table are of sharing. not only bread, wine, food, but sharing a friendship. i think this is the real relation between the united states of america and italy. we share the same values, the same friendship. yes, on the table, we share the bread. we share all of the wine. we share above all the future and the common values.

for this reason, i propose a toast to president obama. to first lady michelle. thank you so much for your journey, your incredible service. for the values you inspire. not only the united states of america but around the world. thank you, president. healthy a look at the care enrollment in 2017. nancy pelosi speaking to reporters on capitol hill. that is that 11:30 a.m. c-span's live coverage of the third debate between hillary clinton and donald trump tonight. our live debate preview starts

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minority women involved. strategistpublican charlie black previews the host: good morning. it's wednesday, october 19 2016. we show you the view of the thete stage on campus of university of nevada las vegas which becomes the focus of the political universe tonight as it hosts the final presidential debate between hillary clinton and donald trump. among the topics likely to come up are donald trump's repeated attacks on what he calls a rigged election. that's where we will begin today's program. we want to know whether you are