post, as some insurers have been raising their rates, i understand tech credits will go as well. cbo's pritikin to 3 million people on the marketplace will be unsubsidized. i'm wondering if you have any concerns if at the coverage will stay affordable for them? sec. burwell: for those who face a category of unsubsidized, there's a number of things that are important to reflect on. one is that in the category of people who are above 400% of analyze what's happened with the number of uninsured the united states during this time, there has been a drop of 40% there in terms of the number of uninsured. people outside of the subsidized marketplace are people who are taking advantage. many people you think are those who can get into the system because they weren't blocked out of pre-existing conditions.

for many people, we've seen growth in that. the other thing to support and re-think about the people who don't receive subsidies is the importance of shopping. we know we have a marketplace. when you have choices within in andhat people can go we are giving people tools to do that. in terms of shopping, whether it is for including the issue of drugs you can shop for our doctors or how you shop in terms of premiums and deductibles. that they have that ability. the reason the shopping is so important while it is not an analysis for that particular group, we know that last year for those who came in and shopped, the average savings was $500 a year. for many people, that is an important alternative as they go into this open enrollment with that group of people you're referring to. we need to make sure they are coming in and using the tools and marketplace to shop to find a plan best for them from a

portability and quality perspective. with that, thank you all. november 1. [applause] ♪

>> more live coverage coming up for you and about 35 minutes. house democratic leader nancy pelosi will be talking about the house democratic agenda in the lame duck session. that discussion coming up later on. we are at the national press club with secretary john king talking that civic engagement. our coverage at 1:00 eastern live here on c-span. throughout the day we are

looking live at the university of nevada las vegas inside and outside of the thomas and mack center were tonight's third and final presidential debate will be held. our coverage begins at 7:30 eastern. the debate itself hosted by -- moderated by chris wallace a fox news will get underway at 9:00 eastern. our live coverage on c-span, c-span.org and the c-span radio app. the upshot of the new york times tweets that donald trump's chances of winning the white house have never been lower. 8% by our forecasting model. here is a tweet from the new york times showing you there forecast for the upcoming race. another poll on military support , this one tweeted by the hill. trump still leaves of military voters. they write he is a 40% support among active-duty troops. the survey finds that

libertarian nominee johnson comes in second with 27% and hillary clinton with 20.6%. that is a military times poll. this morning on washington journal we talked about some of the get out the vote efforts in minority communities in battleground states. host: back in our studio we are joined by melanie campbell who serves as president and ceo of the national coalition of black's participation in on the black women's roundtable. melanie campbell, in 2008 in 2012, voting rates among black women exceeded all other rates -- raising gender groups. expectations for the 2016 election? guest: if you go further back you see that trend didn't start in 2008. thank you for inviting me. -- enjoy appreciate and appreciate your journalism.

when you talk about the black vote, the surgeon the black vote. vote, only turned out the but the influence when it comes to encouraging our children to , getting husbands engaged in the community. a lot of the work that is done around engaging, many that is led by black women. it intoted -- expect many states to count. and last few months in the primaries to now. there is a high level of engagement with black women. the challenge is making sure that -- host: a story speaking to that in today's washington post. the headline amongst young black activists, clinton can be a tough sell. why do you think that is? guest: this election has been

very --. i've been doing this on the been admit. part of it is gender, the way that hillary clinton's been treated. when you hear something over and over again, human natures start believe what you hear and over and over again, she has been attacked. i think that's part of it. i haven't seen this level of vitriol. seeing on the ground is this level of enthusiasm around being able to make sure that issues are front. when comes to millennials, it boiled -- that's where boils down. likeeeing people stephanie, people like

millennials who are organizing peer-to-peer work and you are hearing the people need to connect with the issues and what's happening is that level of getting down to the lower ballot elections i think will help surge the millennials vote. host: what are the most important issues for young black millennials and black women as well? as your lawyer about having these conversations. you -- - as one of the key areas with and millennials, a year ago we did the same poll, the number one issue last year was college affordability. this year, eight point , new issue for millennia black women is criminal justice reform. with happening in the country

with constant issues about criminal justice reform is impacting. these are women voters who vote. that is the number one issue. jobs andr two issue is then you get down to college affordability. you a lot of organizations who are really working around pushing it focusing in on down ballot elections. issues.around looking at shares to be elected, mayors. city council races. it really gets down to the local level is where politics really up.nd looking back the conversation around the presidential is who is talking about criminal justice reform in their platform? bringinglking about communities together as opposed to bringing them apart?

being able to have an honest comparative analysis. we invited all of the presidential candidates a year ago after a questionnaire around criminal justice reform. hillary clinton responded. we never heard back from donald trump's campaign and we continue to try. it's not too late for them to fill it out. with us for the next 30 minutes or so. if you have questions for her, the lines are split up ahead of the election.

melanie campbell, as fevers are calling and, how much are these issues of criminal justice reform living wage, college , affordability, how much attention are they getting from your perspective? guest: it is so personality much isf the way so dealing with everything but ways it isome playing out like a reality tv show and it is not good for our democracy. it is very important that to the media, that we really address the issue. what i'm hearing is people are frustrated because they are not hearing the issues. that is not just millennials. that is voters. it is important to see where the candidates stand on issues so

on november 9, people feel like we have a good turnout. through the orlando aea and stopped in convenience store and heard young people talking. a cashier and the other was a customer, and what were they talking about? well, it may be a revolution. the store young people talking about that. that's not where we want to be as a country. we need to have an election. host: that's a question we asked viewers at the beginning of our show, i will ask you.

your concern about vote rigging? guest: i think the rigging is getting people up for a negative experience. our children are watching the process. it's hard enough getting young people to vote. we have to think about that. about how we talk about elections. early voting, and so we know this is the first election since the voting rights act was struck down by supreme court. we don't have the level of moderate-income used to take place in elections. i have been doing this a long time. we don't see people running around doing voter fraud.

the fraud for me is not having unfettered access to the ballot. i can remember after 2000, how that really shocked the system. and how difficult that was to get people to understand. neustar -- you saw states passing great laws. now all of a sudden, we're going backwards. that is why we have lawsuits flying around the last year or so. you want the vote to be there for the people and it needs to be easier not harder. , host: let's get to calls. but that is up first on the line for hillary clinton supporters, good morning. caller: good morning. i want to thank you for c-span. i listen to you every morning .

i want to support the conversation from half an hour ago. from the inception of the country, voting has in a question of who can cannot vote. as an african-american woman, not being able to vote at some point as a group, the conversation about the vote raid -- reagan- rigged is really, i find, problematic from the side of national identity. i do a lot of traveling abroad hear as americans, people look to us about the integrity of our elections. we watch people in the election process. i think this conversation is just disgusting in a lot of different ways. we pride ourselves on a peaceful

transfer of power and i wondered if what is currently going on coming out of the donald trump group, however you want to put it -- that it will set the country back. a country where we all participate and not just rich white people. guest: she said it. at the end of the day it is encouraging people to vote . that is what is at stake when we have candidates spewing the idea that the system is rate. we have -- rigged. we havewe have -- rigged. one of the best democracy in the world. young people on college campuses having conversations and every campus i went to, they want to talk about the election.

clayton is in new jersey. good morning. caller: good morning. my question is to the commentator. president obama and secretary -- present obama has been there in eight years and sector clinton has been there over 35 years. why haven't they did all of the things you want them to already? first of all, childhood, the key to go to a good school because

what you are saying if you do not have good primary education, will not even the to get to college. your vote for over 40 or 50 years, you just take it for granted. you have not gotten anything from the democrats. i go through all the major area centers throughout the northeast where democrats are living and they vote democrat every year. the democrats bring out the race card every year. they do not do anything for black people. guest: well, thank you, caller. here's how i look at it. i'm from the great state of florida.

awayther recently passed was a public school teacher. we always have to fight. ,f we look at the statistics black women lead the vote and we are very strategic about that vote. i think the challenge not for just us black people come up but is we do not vote enough when it comes to a midterm election or a mayor's race. i spent a lot of my years -- i worked for a democrat who was dynamic who helped build wealth in atlanta when he was mayor.

there are democrats who do well. .nd you have republicans i have a personal's opinion about who i support. end of today day, it is about voters making sure they hold people accountable. it all starts local. it but thent impacts mayor and the da in the city council, the school board, impacts everybody. i am not blaming anybody for who they choose to vote for. it is not blame each other and all the negativity of what you are not doing and what i am not doing. it is like what are we going to do about the community so when you come together, you can have more impact. i was talked about the need for

us to come together and have an impact. when you divide, you are not as strong. for me, it is about making sure we have this crusade going on, it is important that we get engaged so the election addresses our issues. host: debbie is a hillary clinton supporter. debbie good morning. caller: thanks for c-span. i just have a statement. we want to say, the united states is the most powerful and greatest country on the planet. there were callers to the segment who were ashamed. i am ashamed of our government in particular. i wish there was not like a republican and democratic party. the constitution says we the people. we are all god's children and we

all live in this part of the land, the united face of america. the division amongst us in voting and local government entities and so on, it is terrible. you have republicans fighting against democrats and vice versa here it we have messages coming across from each candidate, it plays on the minds of people who may not be as knowledgeable as you or john or hillary or anyone else in politics. with that being said, i think we as a nation and we as a people, donald trump says this often in his each is, i will work for the people, one piece will under god. be very careful what you say, mr. trump, because we are all

one people under god thus say the bible. why can't we just look at the candidates and vote for who we think is most suitable to sit in the most highest power in the world, and not tear each other down? on each side, we are tearing each other down. we need to put love into the in -- as far as him saying it is rigged, that the government is doing it, i think both parties are may be paying people to do this and paying people to do that. let's keep it 100% real. guest: north carolina. i'll coming to north carolina very soon. a lot of good work going on down there. i agree with you in the sense

that we need to come together and we need more love. we do. that is not a cliche. i was watching you and your talk about canada and there is a piece in their about how the impact of negativity is having on the idea of voters, the idea that people are -- you turn on the television and all you hear is negative negative negative. if we're not careful, we will have a negative impact on voters. what are we doing? i think it is incumbent on us. i think it is incumbent on us. we do not hear about that. very important. words matter. host: you mentioned slogans for

president obama. he told attendees if they want to preserve the gains he helped build, they need to come out and support hillary clinton. is that argument working when we see stories about little voter enthusiasm among young black activists for hillary clinton? guest: i think president obama has an impact.

i do not have any analysis to say what the message would be. i think he has a positive effect on voters. specifically about legacy. i think part of what we know, health care is on the line, as an example. we had a positive impact on african-american community. it is not perfect but it is definitely having a positive impact making sure folks have quality health care. many people in our own families and communities. i know we had to many people in our own families african-americans who have been u.s. attorney general's for the first time in history. one african-american woman for the first time in history.

we have only had two women and loretta lynch is the current one. there are things we can point to that are very important that have a long-term impact on the community. host: on twitter, a question about your work. do you push the voters you talk to toward hillary clinton or do you just push them to vote? guest: i push them to vote. about womenle is empowerment. we did a nonpartisan questionnaire, we did that in the last election and we asked candidates all kinds of questions. they were framed by our leaders,

to make sure, as well as our own research, and provide that. people can find that. several republicans responded. donald trump did not respond. his campaign can still respond to that questionnaire. people need to know where you stand on the issues. we know what she put on paper and what she would like to see, black women want to see where donald trump stance on issues that impact the community. host: let's talk to a donald trump supporter. john, good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. you have a lot of positive energy and i appreciate your speaking on c-span. my question is, i have been helping mr. trump since june 18 of last year and i hope too many black american people, mostly in north carolina and virginia. i'm a white american and i went into different parts of the black communities, thinking the worst.

believe it or not, there was a lot of positive energy. some were against mr. trump and a lot worse or mr. trump. do you speak to males just as well as females? i spoke to a lot of males and they are for mr. trump are they afraid of second amendment with their guns and on the women perspective, do you run into more people that are against mr. trump or for mr. trump? the people i spoke to, it is half-and-half. a lot of women are like, i do not want that man and some women say we are tired of the same thing, hillary clinton, never did anything for our community. i'm just asking you that question. thank you for taking my call and keep up the positive energy. guest: i think the importance of people having to make their own decisions. a lot of early voting now. we speak to men and women. another initiative focused on black men. working with the black men of

america and other organizations focusing on voting. we also have another initiative that focuses on black men as well. host: roger, alabama, undecided voter. good morning. caller: yes. i appreciate both of you being there. how come everything is so partisan now? i remember when bush only one after clinton. the first day, on different tv shows, i can remember it like i was watching now.

the inner cities have problems. no homeless and no inner-city problems. all they hear from them is things are so great, that the united states is so great. in --also part us partisan now. it from happens to win the first day, how bad it is in the inner cities and how homelessness and all of these bad things. one thing i have to ask you, who pays your salary? please do not give me a fancy name i've never heard of. does the government contribute to your salary? guest: not a dime. i pay taxes on everyone of my paychecks, thank you. it has unfortunately been a

problem since i have been voting and i have been voting for a long time. it is very important we respect each other's views in a way -- i think the election is one that has gotten to negative and it is very important that we focus on those issues. i come from a small town, urban america, i know america's one nation and we need to come together. all our candidates, whether they're running for president, local share or whatever. to be talking about the issues that are important.

the only way that will happen is voters challenge our candidates to do so. that is what we try to do. i am not here to the spouse either candidate or either party. we have to do what we need to do to encourage people to participate. 40% is good in the midterm election, 5% is ok to have a mayor's race, that is when you run into problems. the people are hurting everywhere and we need to do what we need to do help build a bridge and not tear each other apart. host: going back to comments about pulling you have done and finding issues important to black voters, if whites were asked what they want, with that poll be considered racist? guest: i am sure whites are being asked. most polls that are done, you can look at that and say well, most polls, they are not necessarily talk to a lot of african-americans. you get oversampling. the majority of these polls are

more targeted toward white people. host: shirley is in clinton, maryland, a clinton supporter. go ahead. caller: my comment is i am definitely offended when people say that obama hasn't done a single thing. that is a lie and we all know it. tried tothe bills he put through, maybe 95% of them the majority republican congress , and senate did not want him to look good. but yes, i noticed a lot from the democrats. they have not seen anything as republic and have done to help them blacks up. my question is, why are so many people concerned about the fact that democrats have not done a whole lot for black people but you never your anything about what have republicans done for

white people? i have been around for a long time and i have not seen much of any ink done for white workingmen for white families. there are millions of them and it is not being done to it i want to make one more comment. a lot of people are voting for trump because they think he will send all of these spanish people and latinos and whomever back. well people you need to read , government 101. it takes two thirds of the senate and three fourths of the congress to send one person and he is not going to get it. it will not happen because i do not care who you call, you will not find anyone who can speak english. guest: well i will say again. we knew to find a way to talk about the issues. thank you caller for calling in. you have to continue to challenge our candidates. say the-- i don't democrats are all wonderful and

the republicans are all that. we have to challenge these folks here at one of the things, we talked about getting back to millennials, they are concerned about accountability. you elect somebody, you hold them accountable here the only way is to engage, our elected officials, and even the person you did not vote for, no matter a republican in the white house or id. at that, my job is to try to engage in whatever way and, to push issues for our community. i try to encourage the caller to find a way to be more focused on what we can do together as opposed to what we have to do a part cared i believe president obama has done a great job in my opinion, i believe that. he has not gotten everything -- we do not get everything we want for many elected officials on the weather in congress, i think

the partisan nature of the last eight years has had a negative effect on what we are feeling right now when it comes to a lot of challenges that president obama did face here that is just my analysis of it. it is not partisan. you can read and know the history and follow something i know what has happened. he did have the level of disrespect that no other president has had four been impacted by. i think that helps create some of the climate we find ourselves in right now. host: arkansas, diane, a donald trump supporter. caller: ok, hi. first off, pertaining to c-span, last month, there was a caller, i think talking about unemployment or something, a black man called from wisconsin or minnesota, one of those northern states. when he got through talking, the

moderator asked him, what his job was? and he says all i have coming in now for the last two months has been from george soros, from black lives matter. that is what he was living on. i was surprised to was not questioned about it. he just said ok and hung up on him. anyhow, everybody wonders why trump is angry. why we are angry. if you had the media, everybody against you, you would also be angry. we are angry at hillary. we still remember travel gate, they were not convicted because a lot of things. there was a six-month -- it had end in six months,

and the clintons hid everything, people took the fifth amendment. they just scammed the whole thing. we know the clintons, we older people. the young people do not. hopefully they will find out now. thank you. guest: thank you, caller. again, what can we do together? black lives matter is a great organization of young people, mostly young millennium black women leading that movement. is one of those iardner know really works every day, not just for black lives matter, but every day for working people, and being able to know that those are the faces that really are about the black lives matter movement, i ink that what we have to do in the coming three weeks, people are already starting to vote, early voting.

we are on the roundtable to have an aspirational message, because we can talk about anger, for the democrat side, anger from the republic inside, but anger has never solved a problem. things get better, it is when we find a way to come together to deal with issues we are concerned about and respect onea problem. when things get better is when we find a way to come together to deal with issues that are concerned and respect each other in that manner. i'm seasons now. seasoned around -- i'm now. i have been around a lot longer than i would like to admit. it's important that we all do our part. if you want to be involved we're going to be in several states. we will be in georgia, north carolina, alabama and other states. votey encouraging folks to

so people have access to the ballot and feel comfortable voting. our children are watching what we are doing. they are watching how we are treating each other. it's up to us to do better as adults. sean is in kansas city. undecided voter. i was a democrat and i voted for obama twice. black men are more or less the voting block for the democrats. we got nothing. nothing at all. is talking that within her first 100 days she's going to have comprehensive immigration. we have been screaming for 300 years that laws have been unjust.

the black caucus don't speak up for us. we don't have nobody. donald trump, he really don't like us. who do we vote for? we need to withhold their votes from the democrats and republicans until they can do something with these laws or anything to help the poor people. not just black people. poor people printer. -- poor people period. not voting is voting. we put people in office and then we go home and wait for them to do. we have to stay engaged year-round. in whatever way that is. you vote people in or you vote them out. somebody is't vote making that decision for you. my mom was earlier

87 years young. she lived in a time when she could not vote. she always said no matter what you've got to vote. you've got to show up and make your voice heard. we don't engage them enough. we will vote high. that is 60% in a good year. that means 40% of people stayed home. in the black community we are impacted by disenfranchisement of voters in so many ways. -- our history is not something we should ever take for granted. neededwho did what they to do to make sure we could get this vote. we have to use it. it's not the only tool. the other one is accountability. with melanie campbell is

the black women's roundtable and the national coalition of black civic participation. always appreciate your time on washington journal. >> we take you live to the briefing room on capitol hill. leader nancytic pelosi is going to lay out the democratic agenda for the lame-duck session. she will be out shortly talking about that. work one returns for monday, november 14 less than a week after the election. the senate returns the following day tuesday the 15th. to look at what seats the democrats may pick up as the wall street journal reports that democrats are i think gains in house seats. tumbling numbers have given democrats their strongest tailwinds in a decade. heightening expectations for significant gains in the house. quoting steve israel, he says it's indisputable that we are

going to pick up far more seats than anybody originally believed. maybe we will hear more about that. we will have a live once a gets underway here on c-span. part of this morning's washington journal is looking ahead to tonight's final debate and media preparations at the university of nevada las vegas. >> professor larson, good morning to you. lessonthe media studies you are giving to your students ahead of this debate? actually it's more like i want them to notice how much goes into the production of the show. this debate. money, time, physical effort to set up a

canvas to do this is eye-opening. that's one of the things i'm hoping my students pull out of this. oft: can you give us a sense the effort goes into how many media are expected to be on campus tonight and how long the effort has been to actually set up the event? setting up the event site really started probably a week ago when people started coming on campus and looking for where they were going to locate their pavilions and all of that. heard it was 5000 plus media from all over the world. group of people and everybody is kind of looking for their space so that they can do the best job possible bringing debate to the people of the world. what has been your sense of how the media has done that job? in the previous debates i

think they have done a wonderful job. working with the commission for presidential debates has been great and i can only assume that at hofstra and longwood everything went as well as it did hear from the cpd's viewpoint. some of your students will be doing their own coverage or reporting on the debate stage tonight. guest: yes. we do a live half-hour newscast every day of the week every weekday. studentss is about 25 plus the class that i created just for students who are not in but in publicews relations and advertising to do all of our community outreach. i have about 60 students that are both inside the pavilion

where the media are and all over campus at the various pavilions and at various watch parties. host: give us a sense of where you are on the campus. >> we take you back live to capitol hill to hear from nancy pelosi. thought you would be on the road or something. good morning. when i knew that i was going to be in d.c. this week conferencing and meeting with my leadership it was really to talk about where we go from here after the election in terms of dealing with the lame-duck session. also to talk about what is at stake in the election in terms of policy. know one of the biggest differences between the democrats and republicans in the congress and certainly in the house is show me your values, show me your budget. is a budget that emphasizes over and over again

eliminates the guarantee of medicare. there are three issues i would want the american people to be aware of in a ryan budget. medicare, medicare, medicare. it will remove the guarantee. this is a drastic unraveling of one of the great pillars of economic and health security for america's who benefit from medicare. between planning to be here today and today the issue of the integrity of the ballot and the election has emerged as a focus. this is so fundamental to our democracy. .oting is a sacred privilege we are on sacred ground when any democrats republicans or otherwise, question the integrity of our election. our founders sacrificed everything. their lives, liberty, sacred

honor for a democracy. that meant people having the right to vote. thank goodness they had our founding documents to be amendable so that privilege could be extended to everyone who is eligible to vote. know, fourably leaders, senator reid and i joined with senator mcconnell and speaker ryan sending a letter to the state saying avail privacy is the available from homeland security to protect the integrity of your voting record. i think maybe like 36 states are cooperating by now. that's different from the election. it's the voting record. have a situation where one of the candidates for president of the united states is questioning the integrity, the outcome of an

election on the basis of no and almost relishing the involvement of russia prying into our records and then saying that the election is rigged on the basis of nothing is really so irresponsible. it goes beyond the pale. is good to hear that the republican secretary of ohio talk about the integrity of the records and the ballot in that state. we have never in the history of our country is hard-fought as our divisions have been ever not accepted the results of the election. now i know he is backing away from it a little bit. but this is irresponsible. to thrust confusion into an election as an obstacle of participation. people decide to stay home.

what am i going to be subjected to when i go to the polls. it should be a privilege. exercising a right that is a currency of the realm. the vote. of the people ruling. being the boss. -- talk aboutthat making our system more democratic. let's talk about overturning citizens united. disclose where does this money come from, and amend the constitution. eliminate citizens united. reform our voting so that favor small donors with matching funds. and empower people. stop all of these obstacles to participation that are being put out there and join us in calling for commission redistricting

which we've had the bill for a number of years. we have rising support for it across the country. from your editorial board. you will have more women running for office. that would be a good thing as we are now on the verge of electing the first woman president of the united states who happens to be a woman. she is definitely capable. she knows her call to service. her purpose. she has knowledge of the issues facing our country and plan toes and she has a take us into the future. it's pretty exciting. sadly, we had a shooting in san francisco last night. four students at june jordan school for equity in san francisco and excelsior. four young people are in the

hospital. we hope the others will be apprehended for who perpetrated this shooting. one of the teenage girls is in critical condition so we pray for her and the other three their swift recovery and swift apprehension of the perpetrators. some good news today on aca. show thats released one million more people signed up in the open enrollment event so we are well over the 20 million people have access to quality affordable health care in did not have it before addition to three quarters of our country who see their health care through their employment insurance,er health no pre-existing condition discrimination, no lifetime noits, if you are a woman

longer are you discriminated against in your purchasing of a he. if you are up to 26-year-old you can be on your parents policy. act hasrdable care resulted in the slowest rate of growth and premium increases in and50 people -- history similarly for the growth of the cost to our budget. any questions? i have some more things. the aca number announced is a projection for 2017. that's what they are projecting that the enrollment will be. any questions? there's talk among ofublicans of doing a series and [inaudible]

>> no. we have said if you want to do on the bus, that's the way we should do it. when everything is agreed to. acr is likebus and two dereliction's of duty. we have to rise up to our responsibility of what we have to do. , we are ready to cooperate. anyway to get this done and remove all doubt that we will have a budget going into next year. this is a little bit too cute. yes sir. >> you mentioned the joint letter that you and the other leaders of congress sensed the states. have you given any thought to

whether a similar bipartisan affirmation of the results would be warranted? >> the people will speak and that will be the result. well, the electoral college will be the affirmation of what has and sod in the country that is the affirmation. that leader mcconnell and speech -- speaker ryan will we havein saying confidence in our system and that we always respect the results of the election. where do you put the odds of youcrats winning and since mentioned a woman becoming president, what does that mean to you both personally and professionally if a woman becomes president? use rise to power, i know about power. i know about women and power.

i know i have never asked anyone to vote for me because i was a woman. in terms of hillary clinton it's exciting because of who she is as i said earlier. her call to service. her purpose, her vision for the future. her knowledge. for strategic thinking. her connection to america's working families which she has dedicated her life to issues that relate to our children. for these and other reasons whether it is a defense of our country, the strength of our economy, the success of america's working families, she will be a great president. that she happens to be a woman is the icing on the cake. it's just very thrilling and it will send a message of americans to all especially girls and women that any door is open to them.

beeker, the second-most powerful position in the country. president, legislative branch speaker. evokes that kind of response on a different level. president is much different from speaker in terms of public awareness. then she will be the leader of the free world this is not just an office in our country. it is leadership in the world. it's pretty thrilling. we're good. i'm here. i heard steve said this morning -- steve schmidt say this morning that we are like at 25 he thought and attending democratic. he's a republican advisor to senator mccain. it's nice to hear that validation from others. we have a great chairman.

we have great candidates. some of them self recruited. others are reached out to and are doing excellently. we have met our goals and beyond. messaging, mobilization on the ground. we did very well last month and every month before that. i think we are in a good place. it's all about the ground. it's like football. you have an air game, the ground game. we have both but the air game doesn't count without the ground game. you are having a conversation instead of political mobilization. i feel pretty good about that. i think we will be in single digit either way. digit.it is single the ryan budget for

the good of a woman's right to choose. gun safety legislation, immigration reform. the list goes on. that wefor our climate have to be good stewards of. i hope we have advantaged us. there have been definite democratic trends in the last month or so in the closing days of this. doesn't this come down to the fact that republicans have a advantage from 2010 redistricting and that is why it is so hard for your side to get over it? >> it's an obstacle, but not insurmountable. >> you think were it not for that you would have the house going your way? now and that translate that's the problem, that firewall. >> i don't think it's an

obstacle but i like your description of how strong we are in spite of the obstacle that is there. 2006e just remind you in when we won, people didn't think we were wind -- we would win. we had just suffered a terrible redistricting. it took 17 from one side and put it on the other side. 14 c difference. that was like 2005. you remember tom delay almost went to jail over his tactics in that. we won 29ck and seats. i don't want to win 29. i want to win 30. that then you have just surrendered to a very bleak future for children and other living things in our country.

some would even say for civilization as we know it today. if you can't accept the redistrict ring that says you can't win, when are you going to win? you have to win so you can change the redistricting or in our case you can change to commission redistricting which we have in california. nonpartisan commission redistricting. accept of one version of your fate how are you going to make the difference in the next redistricting? i think we have time for one more question. >> speaker ryan and leader mcconnell have both said they get 20% -- reform package. have you been in touch with representative cologne on that and what would be necessary on the democrat side to be able to advance that legislation?

>> i support ranking member polon. we stand ready to pass it in the lame duck. that is not a universal view in our caucus. we will just have to build consensus. if the leadership takes it up i'm sure it will pass. i thought you were going to say something else. now isng they are saying we want checks and balances. admission on the part of the speaker and the leader that donald trump is here today, gone tomorrow candidate for president of the united states. what does checks and balances mean? it's a euphemism for obstruction.

said in newhas also york that he wants a unified government. that's not going to happen because in his view a unified government with the republicans because donald trump is not going to be president of the united states. out of respect for the fact that those people have not voted -- he's not going to be president of the united states. how that unified government comes around sounds ok to me. we are going to have a democratic president. he was talking about unified the president, the senate, and the house of one party. when they talk about checks and balances probably none of you were around in 1996 when leader dole was the candidate for president. beautiful lovely man. great leader. the hero in our country.

he was a candidate for president . when he beat -- when it became apparent that he was not going to win the republican started talking about checks and balances. that translated into impeachment of the president of the united states. checks and balances are important in terms of the check ,nd balance between parties executive legislative and judicial branch. but when they say checks and balances that is their code word for obstruction or something worse. thank you all very much. i went to the dodgers game. i did my share. game -- we last never got to the fifth game.

the ninth inning was probably one of the worst innings i have ever undergone. seven ofmilar to game the nba. they lost that one, too. >> yeah. they are not good. i'm proud of them for a great season. the building year as we say. thank you all. don't forget, medicare, medicare, medicare. >> more live coverage coming up in about an hour.

we will be at the national press club to hear from secretary john king about education and civic engagement live at 1:00 p.m. eastern. live coverage of the third debate between hillary clinton and donald trump tonight. our live debate preview starts at 7:30 p.m. eastern. the 90 minute debate is at 9:00 p.m. eastern. stay with us following the debate for the reaction including tweets and facebook posting. watch the debate live on demand at c-span.org. listen to coverage on your phone with the c-span radio app. every four years the presidential candidates turn from politics to humor at the al smith memorial foundation dinner to raise money for catholic charities. at new york's historic

waldorf-astoria hotel. >> i must say, i have traveled the banquet circuit for many years. i have never understood the logistics of dinners like this and have the absence of one individual could cause three of us to not have seats. >> mr. vice president, i'm glad to see you tonight. you have said many times in this campaign that you want to give america act of the little guy -- act to the little guy -- back to the little guy. mr. president, i am that men. it's an honor to share the dais with a descendent of the great al smith. your great-grandfather was my favorite kind of governor. the kind who ran for president and lost. >> you are right. a campaign can require a lot of wardrobe changes. blue jeans in the morning perhaps. suits for lunch fundraiser.

sport coat for dinner. it's nice to finally relax and where what an and i wear around the house. thursday night at 9:00 eastern on c-span and c-span.org. listen at nine p.m. with the c-span radio app. it's not busy now but it will be. nine hours from now when the third and final presidential debate gets underway. filing centerdia inside the mac center at the university of nevada las vegas.

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the debate tonight at 9:00. one interesting just to to look for is president obama's half brother. cbs tweeting the donald trump campaign has invited the president's half brother, an american citizen. because held trump speaks from the heart, he told the new york post. make america great again is a great slogan and i would like to meet him. final debate. we get a preview of tonight's debate from today's washington journal. again there is the debate stage for tonight's third and final debate happening in less than 12 hours at the university of nevada las vegas. here in our studio in washington, d.c. we are joined by republican strategist charlie black. you have served as an adviser to three republican presidents.

he served on the mccain campaign and john kasich run. how would you assess the campaign of the republican party's current nominee with less than three weeks to go until election day? guest: thanks for having me on this morning. the trump campaign has certainly had ups and downs. having such a high profile celebrity as the nominee, he has what wee to dominate call the free media. draws a lot of people out to his rallies. it has been an unconventional campaign. ast he hasn't done recently broaden his appeal to get more voters who are independents and conservative democrats. he did well in sticking to a message in august and early september. he closed the gap in the polls close is still time to do that. what is your advice if you

were working with the campaign? should go backhe and look at the speeches he did in august and september on the teleprompter. he just needs to talk about issues. jobs, take-home pay, the economy. health care. going to replace obamacare which is very unpopular with a lot of the american people and maybe add some of his message about law and order. those issues are ones on which he can win. what he did in the summer was framed the race as change. he was change against the status quo. represents a continuation of obama policies. you can win on that argument. with usarlie black is for the next 30 minutes or so. if you want to call in, donald trump supporters (202) 748-8001. hillary clinton supporters, (202) 748-8000.

third-party candidate, (202) 748-8002. .ndecided, (202) 748-8003 we want to get your thoughts on hillary clinton trying to contest or putting money towards states like arizona. states that were not necessarily seen as battle grounds heading into the cycle but seem to be coming online for her. sometimes a campaign has too much money and doesn't know what to do with it. i think her managers are smart enough to know they just need to target and upstate to get the 270 electoral votes. moneyey seem to have more than they need so they are looking at arizona and georgia and some other states that frankly they don't need. they are having some impact. you look at the washington

post polling that was published today she is actually a little bit ahead in arizona and georgia. mr. trump despite trailing nationally it is slightly ahead in florida, ohio, nevada, and some target states. if i were her i would put all the resources i could into the main target states. opportunity by having so much money to contest these other states. host: we can show our viewers that run down of polling. 15 battleground states polled in the recent washington post .urveymonkey poll that came out new hampshire, virginia, michigan, new mexico, colorado, wisconsin, georgia all work out a ground states that clinton is up in florida, arizona, nevada and iowa. donald trump is ahead from two

to five points. the -- you mentioned message donald trump needs to stick to. i wonder if his recent campaign ad that came out yesterday speaks to that message. we are going to take on the big donors and big business and big media. we are going to take on the rape system that has shipped america's wealth to other countries and they keep doing so. we are going to replace our failed and corrupt establishment with a government that serves you, your family and your country. host: charlie black on that message. guest: that's the classic populist message. he's the outsider. he represents change. he states everything in very strong terms. thatis part of his message he represents change and she represents the status quo. he needs substantive issues.

care andhealth immigration and trade and the things he has a good message on. city,phyllis in kansas kansas. good morning. undecided voter. caller: good morning. what i wanted to talk to your guest about was doesn't he think that our elections really are rigged? cnn, msnbc. cbs. they bring up these trumped up charges from these women and they spend a lot of time on that that they don't spend any time on the wikileaks. i just wondered if he could tell me, isn't it really rigged? our election has been really rigged for a long time.

the free press plays an important role in our society and america and they play an important role in politics. they have a constitutional right to do highest news coverage if they choose to do so. that said i think mrs. clinton's problems have gotten some coverage. twoe we are is you have candidates who are very unpopular with the majority of the american people. something like 20% of the american people don't like either one of them. people have to pick one and that will probably decide the election. you can say it is rate because thenews -- rigged because news media tends to a close and conservatives. we have a free country and a free press. that's just how it is. host: what about voter fraud? do you think it is rigged in that sense? guest: i don't.

we have some incidents of voter fraud in this country. the city of philadelphia traditionally cast a lot more voters -- votes than they have registered voters. chicago, people know the traditional problems there. the specializing in dead voters. in 2004 when president bush defeated john kerry, there was voter fraud in wisconsin that could have flipped that state from kerry to bush. there is some voter fraud. is there enough to affect the race? if it not real close, no. it's not goingrace? to be 10% or even 4% worth of voter fraud. host: beth is a donald trump supported. caller: good morning. the united states gold title 18 part one, chapter 101,

subsection 2071 says that hillary clinton cannot run for office because she destroyed so many records. it's there in the law. it's right there. well listen. she is alleged to have done that but she was not prosecuted. it has not been proven. had the fbi recommended on the issues of her e-mails and her servers it would have come up in the trial that she hid or destroyed some evidence. but it didn't. unless you have a conviction you cannot enforce that section of the code that you described. priscilla is in new york. hillary clinton supporter. good morning. caller: good morning. i would like to know what has donald trump ever done for any little people, poor people

black, latinos, anyone. what has he done in his past to make people think that he's going to all of a sudden be a champion for all of these people at his rallies? what makes them think he's going to be a champion for them when he has done nothing before for them? i would also like to note what isdonald trump's tax plan going to change where he has not paid any federal taxes? what in his tax plan is going to change but make him not be able to avoid paying any federal taxes? guest: he has proposed a tax reform plan that plugs most corporate loopholes. in fact it would plug some of the loopholes he has used. he has paid whether

federal income taxes. he is going to close some loopholes that will cause the wealthy to pay more and the middle class who do not use the loopholes to pay less. part, donald trump is a builder. businesshas been in almost 40 years he has employed tens of thousands of people and he has employed contractors and subcontractors that employ tens of thousands of people. many of these people are ,inorities, low income people african-americans, latinos. and goodovided jobs wages. a lot of union wages on a lot of his projects. he knows the people who are working on them. there's a lot of confusion about his charitable foundation and all of that. both he and the charitable foundation and some of his companies have been very generous to charities to help the disadvantaged. host: have you endorsed donald

trump personally? guest: i'm going to vote for donald trump, yes. did it take after working on the john kasich campaign to make that decision? guest: i'm a lifelong republican. i feel that loyalty to the nominee. if you look at it it's very important that we focus on these candidates who have a chance to win. certainly i'm not going to be for mrs. clinton and there is good option beyond mr. trump. host: you mentioned the tax record that came out. some speculation that those records that were obtained by the new york times, some form of opposition research. it has led to questions of why opposition research come out during the republican primary? republican challengers to donald trump not able to find these sort of things? guest: they didn't have access

to whatever the new york times got. i'm sure the new york times had it for a while and timed its release just like the billy bush tape probably was around in somebody's hand during the primary. -- they waited for our five weeks until the election to release that. there is media bias in all of this. vince in wilmington, delaware. donald trump supporter. caller: good morning. a couple of questions for you. earlier you made a statement that donald trump in his rallies doesn't mention his platform. i think he's pretty convincing on all of his policies as far as taxes, immigration right on down the line. for some reason you don't seem

to comprehend everything he's saying. the american people, we all need jobs. we all see the economy the way it is. on the other hand you've got hillary clinton that every time you look at the tv or read the news, especially the tv on certain channels, you see all the corruption of the devious deeds that the democratic parties are doing and you don't comment on that. i don't understand. and you say you are a trump supporter. guest: first of all, i have not had a question before now about mrs. clinton's corruption and dishonesty. it is certainly true. it is certainly fair to say that she is corrupt. that's why the majority of the american people do not trust her and do not consider her honest.

here's the problem donald trump has. of course i know what he says at those rallies. when he's speaking to 15,000 people in the news doesn't cover the issues he talks about and instead they cover an insult or some contentious thing he says about hillary clinton, the american people didn't get to hear the presentation on the issues. stick why i wish he would to those issues and get away from the insults. at this point knows all the negative things i can say about each other. important in this debate tonight that he sticks to the issues and get his message across. 75% of people don't want the status quo. i didn't mean to say i didn't know what he was saying but if the news didn't cover it didn't happen for millions of americans. host: richard is a third-party supporter. caller: good morning.

i think people are chasing in the wrong direction. as far as the vote goes. who registered who don't register. what it will be is the computer. that's what's going to change your vote. if you have a computer that is rigged in florida, ohio. all they have to do because they , one out of every five votes is programmed in the computer to vote a different way. then it can't be found. i didn't get a receipt when i vote. does anybody get a receipt? the computer has it. just like hillary clinton did with her e-mails. we can't find them and there's no record of it. this is exactly how they are going to program computers. another thing. obama and the democrats are working for a one payer health system. once they get a one payer health system, look at the v.a.

waiting eightans months, 10 months to see the doctor if they are still alive. this is the way health care will go. then your government will decide who lives and who dies. you make an excellent point on health care and it is true that mrs. clinton and the democrats have always wanted to steer us to a single-payer system run by the government and the v.a. is the perfect example. not believe that there will be computer fraud or cyber security fraud in the election. the elections are actually conducted at the county level. there are thousands of counties in this country who each run the election count the votes and report the votes at the state level. it's theoretically possible that somebody could use the computer to steal the election but it has never happened before and we have tremendous security on most of these computer system these days.

i'm optimistic we will have a fair election even if it's not perfect. host: in today's wall street journal -- instead of scattershot claims that the race is being manipulated, wild conspiracies about ballot box stuffing which both parties and americans of decency and good will strongly refute. we should be focusing on the rate argument that nobody can confidently refute. that's the argument that hillary to the is on her way white house only because the obama administration decided to waive the law on handling classified materials and the fbi it'salong to be sure designated heiress would succeed to the presidency. guest: that is a fair claim and a way of rigging the election. on the other hand if the democrats nominated somebody else they would probably be more

popular than hillary clinton. i'm not happy to have her as an opponent. we need to stop talking about rigged elections, voter fraud unless during the election there is isolated incidents of it. they should be found, exposed and prosecuted. have a very honest election system in this country and we have had fair elections for over 200 years. i don't want the voters to lose confidence in the integrity of the system because i think it's pretty good. host: charlie black here for the next 10 or 15 minutes to take your calls at the end of our program today. what is the prime policy group? we are a public affairs and government relations firm in washington. we are bipartisan and we do lobbying and communications work for a variety of companies and trade associations. host: how many years did you

work in administrations? guest: i worked in campaigns for president reagan, president bush 41 and advised president bush 43 and worked full-time for a year with john mccain when he ran. our company is over 30 years old . we have a great bipartisan team that serves many trade associations. we have experts in health care, a lot of specialties. thank you for the commercial. host: a donald trump supporter in connecticut. good morning. morning.ood thank you for taking my call. i would like to state a misconception that a lot of people are having due to a political ad. hillary clinton put out about nukes and donald trump is reality she isin the one that is dangerous. she voted for the iraq war.

she laughed about qaddafi. statementpe making a we came, we saw, we killed them. she thinks war is funny. syria, libya, the middle east is on fire. i believe donald trump should put out a political ad stating these things. say ipeak to people they would vote for trump but i believe he is dangerous. she's the one that's dangerous. joe biden is on television saying he's going to start a cyber war with russia. and they call donald trump dangerous. i'm wondering if there's any way you can have donald trump put an ad out about how dangerous she is. just wrote a good commercial. you did a good job. mrs. clinton showed terrible

judgment and made a lot of mistakes as secretary of state. she and president obama caused the problems we are still experiencing in the middle east. one of the super pac's hasn't had a long the lines you are suggesting that makes a contrast between clinton and trump. see it.dn't there is an ad like that out there. you made a good point. host: let's head to clearfield, pennsylvania. bill is an undecided voter. good morning. caller: good morning, c-span. met this campaign has taught is that the republican establishment is so far removed -- ithe grassroots followed the primary. donald trump won the primary.

establishment most probably including this guy you've got on your show today just pulled the rug out from underneath all the people that voted for donald trump. is toeally makes me mad see -- my whole family here in clearfield, pennsylvania are all republicans. we all say the same thing. we can't believe all these republicans are not supporting the guy that we voted for. i want to ask this gentleman on their because he is most probably the brightest man you got on there today. what happens if donald trump does get elected president? a special to get prosecutor and go after all this corruption that we see day after day? all of our tax money down there to washington. we have a president spending $11 trillion of our tax money. i look around here in pennsylvania, i don't know what the hell we got for that money.

it's going to be pittsburgh and philadelphia to throw this election for hillary clinton. you.: thank i have actually supported mr. trump and i have provided advice to his campaign whenever i was asked. the great preponderance of republican elected officials in congress, governors and elected officials around the country are supported mr. trump. you have a few high-profile so-called establishment people who aren't. those are the exceptions and the rule is most people in the republican party have gotten behind donald trump even though he might not have been their first choice. elected -- i have known donald trump for 30 years. he is a guy who likes to get things done. he is a negotiator. he has worked with republicans and democrats and independents on different projects over the years. i think he will work with both

parties in congress to get things done about taxes, about the economy, trade, immigration. and a very good negotiator a person who doesn't mind working with a lot of different people. you've been doing campaigns for a very long time. what has this campaign taught you? guest: the biggest thing it taught me in the primaries is populist movements in both parties. bernie sanders never should have come anywhere close to mrs. clinton but he did. donald trump in a field of 19 consistently got 35% of the vote and then he got more. grassroots on both parties, more importantly the american people at the grassroots are mad, angry at washington, they are angry about the state of the economy, about their jobs, about their take-home pay. and they want change.

host: did we not know this in 2012 or 2008? 2000 eight was a change election because president bush was unpopular because of the iraq war. then the financial crisis started on september 15 scared the dickens out of the american people and they blamed it on bush. that gave president obama who was a wonderful candidate and campaigner chance to say he was the change there. 2012 was more a status quo election. mitt romney was a good candidate. he was proposing some changes but they portrayed him as being part of the big money financial establishment. is in florida. a hillary clinton supporter. good morning. caller: good morning.

i wanted to say that -- a man said a few minutes ago that is dangerous. mr. obama said he loves war. he's the one who said he loves war. that's not i called about. i want somebody to ask mr. trump. he said he's going to make america great. is he going to bring some of them jobs back that he's got in those 12 different countries? that would give us more jobs. you can't create more jobs by taking them across the border. you have to bring some of them back. host: you are talking about his own business mentors? -- ventures? caller: i'm talking about donald trump has businesses in 12 different countries and he needs to bring them back to some of those factories back where he makes clothes and ties and stuff. bring them back to the united states, that will give people in the united states a more jobs. host: charlie black.

guest: i understand the point. in fact what donald trump has proposed in terms of trade policies might cause those factories to come back here or a lot of the production to move here because he wants to create tariffs for products entering the united states. it would promote more manufacturing in the united states. i trust him. i don't trust hillary. >> trust in the candidates. >> we have for the first time in

history an election where the majority of the voters say they don't trust either candidate or don't believe in the honesty or trustworthiness of either candidate. let's head to maryland. a hillary clinton supporter is waiting. caller: i think that it's disgusting than we as a country who are supposed to be educated can discuss the racial profiling event that happen with george w. ,ush in florida, the purging and say thatback we don't have an issue with how our elections are run. i am so and say that we don't have an issue with how our elections are run.

disappointed in what our quote unquote democracy is. i'm in my mid-40's and have always worked hard and i'm educated and i'm literally watching as the world has changed. you have certain groups that have been branded as hate disapr quote unquote democracy groups for the same type of racial speech against the majority in is actuallythat mr. saying. literally and all of his businesses has shown nothing but discriminatory practices and has all of his wealth building career and businesses had taken jobs and taken them across the world. not only has he given to both parties, and benefited and is dragging about it, but he hasn't

heested in our economy which admitted. all of us other regular folks have paid taxes. caller: most of donald trump's business is real estate development. he builds hotels, apartment buildings, sometimes office buildings. that provides a lot of jobs during the building and a lot of job for the people who work there. there is nothing discriminatory about the way he conducts himself. not only has he employed a lot of minorities and those development projects, but you know something? here for years and years, he has had female executives at the top of his company even before it was fashionable in a lot of industries. i think it is a bum rap on him about this termination. host: a hillary clinton supporter, you are up next. caller: ok, i just want to talk about donald trump claiming that

the vote is rigged ahead of time if he loses. he is like a big, overgrown child. he figures if he cannot have it, then he will break it to pieces. they are claiming vote rigging. the vote rigging is by the republicans, starting with gerrymandering, messing with the votes, using the excuse of voter fraud when there is none. that is the standard excuse that they use for the things that they are doing. if there is voter fraud, it's not by the democrats. it's by the republicans to keep minorities and the poor from voting. guest: i'm not sure what she means by those allegations.

i do not think we have had evidence of voter fraud by republicans in that regard. i will say this. he is not ask me, but in donald trump asked me, i would say quit talking about rigged elections. if you think there is voter fraud, put a few thousand lawyers out the field, watching the ballot boxes and account and the compilation of the account at the state level. host: what about encouraging citizens to be vote watchers? guest: they do not have the training and access to the polls. the way that most states and counties work is that democrats and replicants get official poll watchers. they have training on what they are supposed to do and how to conduct themselves and then they get to watch, both parties. guest: they do not have the somebodies could sign up for one of those positions, but otherwise they will not get access to the polls.

donald uses a a lot of hyperbole. i think that is what more that is. host: time for just a couple more phone calls with charlie black. patty is waiting in missouri, an undecided voter. caller: good morning. host: go ahead, patty. caller: i was going to say i am undecided as to who i am voting for. i'm not undecided as to who i am voting against. high-pressure voting against -- i am for sure voting against hillary because i lived through the 1990's because the clinton's cannot retake the white house. as a nation, they almost destroyed us then. as to who i am voting for, i would maybe like some more information since you know him so well as to trumps economic plan. i've not heard much from the other candidate. i'm not think i am interested in that jill stein woman and i do not know anything about that johnson man. if you are so sure about mr.

trump's economic policies, could you be more collaborative on that? guest: yes, absolutely. gary johnson is a good man. he is a good governor, but he is a libertarian, almost radical in his philosophy for legalizing drugs. donald trump's plan for the economy is this. he wants to toughen our trade laws so that we do not export as many jobs. when we bring in products from other countries, there is some kind of tariff on the. everybody in both parties says we need to reform the tax code to generate more investment and create more jobs. his plan to do it is by getting u.s. corporations' tax rates down and plugged the loopholes. we pay the highest corporate tax rates in the world. part of this is not being able

to compete with foreign companies. he's going to lower that and close loopholes. he will close a lot of loopholes that the rich benefit from. this will create more spending and more money in the pockets of consumers, which creates a bigger economy and more jobs. more take-home pay. when you get tax cuts, you get more take-home pay. 70% of the american people today are making the same or less take-home pay than they made when president obama took over eight years ago. mr. trump understands that and wants to put money in people's pockets because they will spend it and grow the economy and create better jobs. host: in our last 30 seconds, do you think this is an election about who people are voting against then who they are voting for? guest: when you look at the polls, it's about half and half. what i was people would focus on is the issues and the policies. there are broad characters on both sides, but do not vote

based on who you think is the worst character. if you like the way the country is going, you ought to vote for hillary clinton. if you want change and a different economic approach, you ought to vote for donald trump. host: charlie black, always appreciated time on "washington journal." >> donald trump tweeting on monday about the issue of voter fraud. his campaign manager today saying, i do not believe there will be widespread voter fraud. that was on an nbc program. rubio nondidate marco running for reelection in florida, saying according to to shutl," he appeared

the door on a presidential bid , saying he plans to serve out a six-year term if reelected. we are seven hours less than seven hours away from the start of the programming tonight on the third and final presidential debate at the university of nevada las vegas, just outside the mac center where the debate will be held and the giant media center appear. let's take a look around.

we will keep checking in throughout the day in las vegas, ahead of tonight's third and final presidential debate, while we were in las vegas we heard about the mups connections to visiting the mob gives a view of organized crime's impact on las vegas history. >> a lot of people have this image of las vegas that we always blow up buildings, and we have blown up a lot of hotel casinos on the strip and replace them with newer ones. this building was just about vacant in the late 1990's and the federal government was ready to let it come down. the mayor at the time had been an attorney who represented a lot of figures connected to or allegedly connected to the mob and he said, this is the building where i first practiced law. save it.

it's a three-story building, it is built in 1933 and today it of the nation's leading museums, certainly in crimeinion, for organized and law enforcement. the role they play throughout the united states, and the development of las vegas. whether or not las vegans like it, the mob played an important role in our development. where we are now is the centerpiece of our museum. this is the courtroom on the second floor of the building. forhistorical motivation having this museum, in 1950 the senator of tennessee and four other u.s. senators conducted a series of hearings on organized crime in america. 14 cities and the smallest city that they came to was las vegas.

,hey spent an afternoon here and in this room up there, they questioned various local casino operators and executives. way came in and testified. ore, who owned a couple of casinos and was on the nevada tax commision. they were aghast at the fact that you might have legal .ambling when he issued his report, he said it is a case study in legal gambling. nevada speaks eloquently in the negative. it was legal here, whereas in other cities you were shut down.

the hearings are important in american history. to ther had been elected senate by attacking one of the most corrupt political machines in the country, in memphis. he wanted to be vice president or president and going after organized crime meant going after a lot of democratic party operatives. organized crime was big in the city's trade chicago as an example, the people who formed the daley machine were working with these people. not necessarily with any particular vice in mind, other than getting ahead lytic way. that's what kefauver wanted to do. it does end up making him a household name. he ends up being the democratic rice presidential nominee. the impact for las vegas that is kind of interesting is around the country, people react to the kefauver hearings and they are saying, this is terrible. we've got to get rid of organized crime and illegal

gambling. they are shutting down these places around the country. where are they going to go to operate casinos legally? las vegas. in the 1950's, las vegas and some being the beneficiary of the kefauver hearings because of the number of people who came operatework in or casinos. these hearings are popular because it's the first big daytime tv show. in prime time at the time you have milton berle and jackie gleason starting out, and various shows. daytime not so much. these hearings are being watched in cities around the country. vegas, because las vegas doesn't get a tv station until 1953. seeing these people on tv, these mobsters, gangsters, accused reduced a lot of the perception of them as robin hood's, people who rob on the rich and gave to the poor.

created an image, if you will, of mobsters. maybe they weren't so bad, or some of them who were bad, at least they got put away and you did not deal with them. this changes perceptions of organized crime in america. it is a popular show, it is a riveting show, and it is also a transformative show. the hearings were a success and a failure. they are a failure in the sense that organized crime survives, and illegal activities go on in the cities and areas where they are being driven out. where it does serve the intended purpose, kefauver is a moral reformer. he wants change. thathere is change results, and you can trace the trajectory from kefauver into the 1960's with bobby kennedy going after organized crime as art of his other's administration -- brother's administration.

the teamsters connections to organize crime and that sort of thing. hoped the hearings would make him a major national gure,and they did -- fi and they did. did they take him as far as he wanted to go? no. they certainly made him more powerful. his satisfaction among democratic politicians who were connected to these guys in one way or another, it also made kefauver more hated. the second floor talks about las vegas and the development of organized crime, locally and nationally and internationally in the 1940's, 1950's, 1960's. of nevadae state legalized gambling and in the early 1940's legalized all track betting. here are all the things that organized crime had been interested in around the country illegally. here they could run legal

casinos. at the same time, las vegas was a new enough community that the auctions that led to the creation of the town of las vegas in 1905, there wasn't really an establishment here where they would have to break in. other cities like reno, being about 40 years older than las vegas, was a more established community. the land was cheap and plentiful. what was important, it was accessible to southern california, where not only did organized crime have some interests, but the l.a. area was always booming. there were always people who wanted to drive to las vegas, and here was all this money waiting for them to make it. when we talk about las vegas as wide open, it can mean a couple of things. it was wide open to the mob, to illegal gamblers, to come in here. that suggests that organized crime itself wasn't that

organized. there were guys in overall charge who were helping to broker disputes, but if you went up and down the strip, you would find there were people coming here from new york, miami, houston, cleveland, cities throughout the united states. in that sense it was wide open for people to come in. the -- because of the city they developed, because of the entertainment and gambling an image of las vegas, it struck a lot of people as this wide open, wild place. cooperas one writer marc who said, you come to las vegas to be legally certified an adult. what are you doing? doing things that suggests that things are wide open. of case i'm in front of kind takes you through the development of organized crime and gambling in las vegas from the 1940's into the 1970's. down below we have a briefcase that belong to one of the people who testified before the

kefauver committee when it came here. he had driven liquor trucks in the prohibition era and was involved in casinos out here. and then everything from one of the uniform jackets from the desert in, which organized crime interests from cleveland operated, to a placemat from the moulin rouge, which was really the first integrated hotel casino in las vegas. las vegas was a segregated community, and if you were african-american, you could not stay in or patronize a strip or downtown hotel casino. entertainers usually had to stay in west las vegas and the moulin rouge, which itself had mob connections, was an attempt in 1955 to integrate the industry and community. someasino has set standards that contributed to the civil rights movement that would lead to changes