moderator: thank you. congresswoman comstock. ms. comstock: i was one of the 75 republicans who voted to keep the government open from the beginning. i have been part of the government -- governing majority and been named one of the 20 most bipartisan members of congress i have already established that i have the working relationship. when i was in the state house, my bills were almost exclusively bipartisan bills. i had all of the right to work legislation that we work together on. the competitive bidding bill. .he data center bill data centers are now providing tens of millions of dollars to our local economy. i've already demonstrated that ability. when you get good ideas, you go , those build coalitions

people i've worked with on a bipartisan basis. -- i'vened bipartisan mentioned congressman lipinski. we work together with the medical community and research. using technology, congestion relief solutions. i'm the only one on the record who actually has done what my opponent only talks about. i practice what she preaches. you have not heard any examples about how she has gone results for northern virginia. ms. bennett's: our congress hasn't given us many results either, to be quite honest. not a bipartisan when you sign ideological pledges, like the grover norquist no tax pledge. it causes you to take bad votes. when you make commitments to the

gun lobby, which caused you to vote 25 times to block legislation from coming to the floor that would keep guns out of the hands of people on the terror watchlist. this is common sense. we need to use common sense in this country. bipartisan, not just in name. the congresswoman won't even sign-on to don byers freedom of religion bill. i mean, freedom of religion, who can be against that? but she won't sign it. i don't buy it. >> would you be willing to put everything on the table, discretionary spending, entitlement spending and taxes, to achieve a some symbol style build to provide greater stability to northern virginia businesses?

congresswoman comstock: yes. we have a record of doing that. one of my top priorities was opposing the sequester cuts, hurting ourot only local economy of devastating to our national security. we are already doing that. you talk about ideological has alreadypponent said she supports $1 trillion in taxes and she says congress is to do whatever hillary clinton wants. i don't think you need a congress that is a rubberstamp for whatever hillary clinton wants. i have already demonstrated seven years worth of an member who works for you. history of standing up to myocardial anew party when it went after federal employees. to vote am not going

for a budget the goes after federal employees. there had to negotiate with me. i worked with my colleagues on a bipartisan basis because i think it is important that are federal employees are part of the solution, as a are. when we were in the state house, we asked our state agency people to work with us to find savings ad we said we will give you bonus if you can find places to save money over several years. we were able to save all kinds of money and give our employees a bonus and let them be part of the solution. i've already had a demonstrated record of working to get everybody together, get them to the table. that's why i've been part of that governing majority. and get a budget passed. ms. bennett: yes, i am for a simpson bowles type solution to reduce our debt.

we cannot pass on the level of national debt to our children and grandchildren. this is one of the reasons i'm running. my candidacy is about the future. this is about the world that we leave our children. one of the main things that we are doing is leaving them a lot of debt. i am for some symbols. gimmicks not for is like sequestration that only come about when you can't pass a budget and when you play the zero-sum games. i'm also not for government shutdowns. it is bad for our economy. it's bad for bed -- and it's especially bad for northern virginia. business need certainty. they'll need the government to set the rules so then know how the kin invest in their companies. you and i understand that. unfortunately, the congresswoman just doesn't. these games that we are playing in congress are the worst thing for our businesses. we need certainty. we need to pass logic -- fast

legislation like comprehension immigrationnsive legislativ reform. we need a funding source that will invest our infrastructure and fund infrastructure improvements and improve our economy. congresswoman comstock: we already started on tax reform. when i was in the state house, the last bill that i hadath thatr governor mcauliffey sign wasn having an r&d tax credit in virginia. that help to grow our economy. we also need to have that certainty. we did that in the tax bill last december. it has a permanent child tax credit because the cost of a child is pretty permanent. taxso offered to double the

credit. i'm cosponsoring a bill that tax increase the child care credit. it hasn't been indexed since my children were young. when i go around and visit all these businesses, a number of which you've mentioned, i have already been there talking, thank you for priding certainty -- for providing certainty. why democrats are doing this year, not all of them, because we have some that work on a bipartisan basis with us, is there try john moore tax -- trying toing add more tax increases. there are 874,000 virginians who are uninsured and health care premiums continue to increase faster than wages. what would you do in congress to address these issues? 90 seconds. one of the biggest things that would help immediately is for virginia to

pass medicaid expansion. it would address the 400,000 uninsured virginians. it would address this by just taking back the money we are sending to washington. right now, we have the worst of all worlds. the congresswoman voted against medicaid expansion. i think that is misguided it shows a breathtaking lack of understanding of budgets and economics. -- we do haveg the afford will care act. the affordable care act has addressed the access issue. 2005, we had 30 million uninsured americans. we now have third -- we now have 20 million more insured americans. it is not perfect and it does

need to be fixed. this is the kind of bipartisan work we need, not voting to repeal that without any sensible replacement. 65 times, that is a total waste of time. are there working less than half-time, but with a are there there are taking silly votes, like repealing a major piece of legislation rather than finding ways to make it better. guesssswoman comstock: i we are not hearing that obamacare is making insurance more affordable. we see the premiums are skyrocketing and adaptable's are skyrocketing -- and adaptable's are skyrocketing. i think we need to buy across state lines. people need to save money and

put some aside when people are young. i endorsed and supported and voted for have a more community health centers like we have throughout our community that provide one-stop shopping for low-income people. come in and are helping and providing charitable care. but it's a place with a can go and not just get health care, but also family-planning. packages andt wic all kinds of primary services. obamacare was totally partisan. not one republican voted for obamacare. havewe need is to bipartisan solutions were you sit down and work with people across the aisle and get it done. people pled with the president at the time to do that. kathryn: ms. bennett, 60 seconds. ms. bennett: there is another health care issue that we feel acutely here at northern virginia and across the country. and that is the opioid and heroin problem.

butress has passed a bill, the haven't funded it. the administration asked for $1.1 billion in funding to really address this crisis that we are seeing in the country. they've passed 37 million finally in the continuing resolution. this is the kind of legislating we need to stop doing. bills, if these crises are happening, we need to address them quickly and we need to get them the adequate funding the need to really solve the problem. zika was another one. it finally got funded. but we had a zika crisis the summer. not only wasn't not addressed in this congress, but they'd took off for five weeks and didn't address it. finally, there was a bill passed this fall and funding was put in the continuing resolution. in the meantime, people were

suffering. children were being affected. our conscious has to -- are congress has to do better than them. kathryn: your response. congresswoman comstock: i would about theed to talk heroine. we worked in the state house about it. with numerous [indiscernible] arounds.e ride there are great in fairfax. there working hard. other regions are not doing as well. baltimore is a main avenue for bringing heroin down here. that's why i was part of the thiss in congress to get passed. we just got the winchester area

designated as a hida area. we can. with everyone i have regular meetings with the commonwealth attorneys, with our recovery community, everybody, because this will be an way.rated we now have the resources. i'm going to five for more money. i expect in the lame-duck we will be able to get more money there. kathryn: did you want to have a response? ok. comstock, due to the presence of an age, maryland has received a substantial amount of research dollars while virginie has lagged behind to conduct research. with the emergence of george the investment that note was making at the center for personalized health and the work being done at george washington science and technology campus in loudoun county, how can you help bring more research dollars to

northern virginia? congresswoman comstock: as i mentioned earlier, i've been working on this as a chairwoman in the research and guidance committee. medicine, we just had a women and bio event, going to them in talking to all of them, with a need in research. my bill, which reduces the amount of paperwork the researchers have to do means that some of these genius researchers that are down in places like your duration, where i visited and over the years we got more money when we were in the state has, right, tom, to disease research, cancer research, and the are a leader now that area. we have a woman who is a research there now who has been named one of the top 40 people in the country or the world and she is working on nanotechnology. there testing year and tests for lyme disease and for breast cancer. imagine how exciting that will

be to have those breakthroughs and their happening right here in our own region. that's why i have worked with george washington. we do have that if a structure here. that's why the 20 for century -- that's why the 21st century cures bill. bennett, 90 seconds for you. ms. bennett: i'm a big believer in research. we in the private sector who run businesses know how important research and development is to the growing of our businesses. it's equally important to the growth of our country. so we need to vote to fund research dollars. this congress has not voted to do that. it has cut funding for nih. it has cut funding for all kinds of research facilities. we need to fund the research necessary. i also agree that we need to get our universities to work cooperatively and share

information and work cooperatively that way. this.d to prioritize it is something that i would do and thank you. kathryn: congresswoman comstock, 60 seconds. congresswoman comstock: all of us deal with cancer and diabetes and outsiders and these chronic diseases. that's why i am so passionate and made this a top priority what i have worked on. i'm sick of getting those calls, when their friends tell you the have been diagnosed with a chronic and deadly disease like cancer. i have visited and worked on these things, as i mentioned. we've increased of the funding of nih. we've had those increases. i still think there needs to be more. that's why we put mandated funding in the 21st century cures bill. it is expected to be passed through the house. hopefully this and it will take it up in the lane house. the president has already

indicated he will sign it. i strongly supported that. when colleagues in my own side didn't, i thought it was critical. and it's important to deal with the deficit when you have these cures that are so difficult. kathryn: what do you think should be our nation's energy policy? how does it make a difference to the 10th district? and what have you done and what will you do specifically to advance that? ms. bennett: we are in a major energy transition in this country and in the world frankly. i have the knowledge and the experience to navigate this transition. i served on then governor tim kaine's climate change commission, a bipartisan commission looking for common sense energy solutions. our own military considers ourate change when of

largest national security crises. yet the congresswoman recently voted not to affirm the climate change even exists. if we want to move forward, first we have to recognize that there is a problem. and we deathly have a problem. climate change not only exists, but presents a tremendous opportunity for our country. we should embrace the alternative energy economy. we should be a leader in the world in combating climate change. i think we do need to be manufacturing wind turbines and solar panels right here. we shouldn't be buying them from china and india as we are now. the energyport transition. it is a transition and it will happen over time. and we need to retrain those workers in the 20th century energy economy to provide work

in the 21st century. congresswoman comstock, i think we have a gift of water for you. [laughter] congresswoman comstock, we will give you 90 seconds on the same question about our nation's energy policy. congresswoman comstock: thank you. this is another area where i have already worked closely with the chamber and also the all of the above energy community. that's why are have been supported by the chamber and other business organizations, because i understand you can do the all of the above solutions. when i was in the statehouse, i drafted a bill that was then incorporated into the offshore drilling bill that we passed in virginia, which i know the chamber supported. my opponent opposed it. not only would it provide royalties that would go to transportation, a dedicated stream of money for transportation that we know we need, it also is going to provide 20% to 25% for research on alternative energy, with a

premium going to our own universities. you have our universities getting this stream of funding coming in to research and develop the next generation of alternative energy. we supported green tax credits. some of my own party attacked me on that. i am part of a coalition already in congress that is working on alternative research. but we can't have carbon taxes like my opponents of parts of that commission that she was on wanted to have carbon taxes and add new taxes. that's one of the additional taxes she wants. we want to work with innovation. we have great technology coming here. we can take the technology and know-how, do the offshore drilling, get new resources into alternative energy, and that's a great way to create good, high-paying jobs. kathryn: ms. bennett, 60 seconds for you. ms. bennett: we need leadership in this area. we are in this transition from fossil fuels to clean energy. first, we need to recognize the

opportunities in innovation and manufacturing. and we need to manage the challenges that any transition presents. i can do this. i've been in my business several times. and we need to do this in government as well. my three sons, that i mentioned earlier, all three of them have started their own businesses. so in our family, we are a for business family. one is an energy technology company and addresses conservation in commercial office buildings. i'm very proud of him, as i am all my sons, but we do work in this area. this won't happen overnight, but make the mistake. it has to happen. so let's stop fighting climate change and pertaining that it doesn't exist, congresswoman, and let's embrace this economyity to grow our by being a leader in green

technology. kathryn: congresswoman most federal contractors believe that the process for acquiring goods and services is overhaul.r dramatic for companies in northern virginia, in cyber security and other high-tech fields, the time it takes from identifying a need to of awarding a final contract often doesn't keep up with the evolving threats and challenges, much less the private sector innovation needed to meet. what committees do you wish to serve on in the next congress that will position you to better help overhaul the federal acquisition process and, recognizing that this might take more than a year or two, would you commit to remaining on those committees long enough to seeing

the job through to completion? congresswoman comstock: acquisition reform is largely in the acquisition reform committee where i served in the 1990's. even though i am not on the committee right now, we have working groups of these commissions. you do not need to be on a particular committee to work for your constituents. i have had roundtables where i brought out the leadership of various committees to talk about acquisition reform. we need to be working on at the speed of government, but at the speed of technology. and we have the experts here in a region to help us do that. sitting down with john wood several years ago and him going through on cyber, how we need to move through this more quickly. we also need to create that ecosystem where we have big companies and are startups and we need to make sure -- where i hear the most complaints and

acquisition reform is on the medium-size businesses where we have up on the startup. and when the get into the midrange, that is when all the regulations really hit them. so we are going to them as the experts, asking them how we can help them change. we had acquisition reform in the national defense authorization act. we are trying to work in a lot of different ways. relationships i have with the contracting community and the experts on that has been a great asset for me to go to my colleagues and get these changes put into action. kathryn: thank you. ms. bennett, 90 seconds for you. ms. bennett: i know in a very personal way how difficult the acquisitions process is in the federal government. can. business, we for gsa leases over a period of 10 to 15 years. hirerequires that you people of fronts, that you expend an awful lot, taking tremendous risks to compete.

we need to streamline this process. we need to make it more predictable and easier and i am committed to doing that. i think i understand it well enough, having been through the process many, many times, exactly how to do that. one of the reasons the federal government is not able to be nimble and move quickly is this continuing resolution process that fails to adjust the amounts of spending that are allocated to each agency. when you have to fund the government at the same levels, in the same proportions that you did the previous year, you are not able to fund the new things that come, that are so critical. so you end up following. we basically have the same budget we had in 2010. that's got to change. . we need a better process for running our government. kathryn: congresswoman comstock,

60 seconds. congresswoman comstock: again, i have already work in this area and worked with so many of you leaders were dealing with this problem. i have an open door. need towhat do we change, what regulations are in place that are causing you problems in advancing the technology and getting in through the field as quickly as possible? this is something that's important for the military because we need them protected with the highest tech that the can in the field. i have a record of already doing this. in terms of the budget, i've only been there two years, but i've been working to get those budgets through. that's why i have always been one of those votes that they'd know i am going to work to compromise, work together. that's why i am one of the 20 most bipartisan republicans. i understand, if you're federal government isn't working for you

and we are not using all the talent that we need to, that is a detriment for the country. kathryn: we are going to move on to our closing question. this will go to ms. bennett. let's look to january 2017. imagine you been invited to dinner with the new president who is a member of your opposing party, president trump. what one issue would you bring to discuss during your dinner meeting that would benefit the 10th district and that you could garner bipartisan support from? ms. bennett: investment in our economy. this is something the president trump should understand. education funding and infrastructure funding. those are two of the critical things that we need to do, not only in this district, but in the country. i believe i can work with anyone. and i would certainly reach across the aisle and work with the president to support this kind of thing.

we need to rebalance our economy. we need an economy that works for everyone. as we are seeing in this presidential election cycle, there is a growing number of american citizens who believe that have been left behind. and there is some truth to that. and both parties are at fault. we need to start to address the inequities in the growth since the recession. we don't need it to be dramatic. and if we address it now, it won't snap back and overshoot. so i word work on rebalancing the economy and really work on investments in this country. kathryn: thank you. congresswoman comstock, you would be going to dinner with president clinton. congresswoman comstock: i would like to see a continuation of the cancer moon shot the president announced this year, the 21st century cures bill that i talked about. that is one of the things i am is passionate about because i think it is an area where we can

really change the lives of people throughout our community. and we have the technology, particularly in this area, health care technology, research, and really be able to change things over the next 10 years. the cancer moonshot is to shorten the time that we will have cures. recently, i went to a cancer moonshot meeting that we had with childhood cancer families. and those families are passionate. i'm so excited that we have so many of them in our district who are working to make sure we get those resources put in for childhood cancer. you are going to find out some any of the things in that area. that is an area where we already have great bipartisan support. but i think we need to have more resources. it is an investment that will end up saving us billions on health care side if we can get it right. and it's good high-paying jobs. in areas in, we have the new center for cancer research.

talk about relationships among his wife is the president of the university. they've started a new nursing school. so we can see new jobs in ways of the economy expand for virginia but also for the entire region. and i would be thrilled to be a part of that. kathryn: ms. bennett, 60 seconds. ms. bennett: i've told you what on.uld work with him here's what i would fight a president trump on. and these are things that unfortunately my opponent agree with him on. health fight for women's and for paycheck fairness. the congresswoman has voted against paycheck fairness twice. and the 10th district has the highest pay gap between men and women among all 11 congressional districts in virginia. that has to change. i would fight for cover his of immigration reform and not to build some stupid wall and pretend someone else is going to pay for it.

we need to pass companies of immigration reform. and get past this broken immigration system. to invest in him an energy economy. we have to move forward. kathryn: thank you. we don't have time fraud he and's questions but we are going to move right into closing statements. so now we will have congresswoman comstock. you are going to go first and you will have two minutes. congresswoman comstock: thank you. it's been the life of the get the other with semi-friends and people i have worked with for years, back into the 1990's. i think you seen on the stage that there is only one here who has a bipartisan record of working across the aisle to get numerous results for jobs, energy, education. and i've got a lifetime of experience working on those issues. health care.

there's only one person on the stage who hasn't lamented equal pay. i not only -- implemented equal pay. i a woman more than men and i have women in senior positions. my opponent is not. from what i can tell on the campaign, she pays women less than men. i increased defense spending. my opponent wants to cut it. not only wants to cut it, but is raising money on cutting our defense, which would decimate our economy and our region. while i supported tax relief, she wants a trillion dollars in tax increases and thinks that will somehow help us grow jobs. i disagree and i've already been working on tax reform. i have already had the relationships working with the state, local and community and all areas our economy, our education -- we haven't talked about our nonprofit sector, but our nonprofit sector so vibrant. so many of our companies come and get back.

that's why we have such a great ecosystem of getting things done. i have worked with leaders in every single area. not had thatnt has local involvement because she has been done in washington, d.c., where she has been doing her entire career. moment -- asess your congresswoman, i will be able to continue as a leader on transportation, science and technology, economy, research and development, the only one in this race who has already established a record of success. and we are just getting started and we will continue that. kathryn: ms. bennett, two minutes, your closing statement. to thenett: thank you northern virginia chamber of commerce and to all the sponsors of today's debate. you know, on the campaign trail, my opponent was to talk about making [indiscernible] that's thinking small. america is a country of big ideas. we can do the big stuff.

we have done it our entire history. we can solve the problems facing our country today. is not a question of ability. it is a question of leadership. we need the right leadership, with the courage to tackle the challenges head on. we need a congresswoman not only willing to do the hard work, but it take the hard votes. we can build an economy that works for everyone. and, yes, that includes equal pay for women. we can pass companies of immigration reform, strengthen our infrastructure, protect all of our citizens, and invest in education. don't tell me we can't do this. it's what we in the business community do everyday. as a businesswoman, i know how to find the opportunities and inllenges -- opportunities challenges, how to solve them and get results. look, i know that government isn't the answer to all of our problems.

but what it can do is strive to create equal opportunities -- winds up, debate remember, you can see it on www.c-span.org. we take you now to delaware, donald trump just arriving. live coverage right here on c-span. ♪

mr. trump: in 19 days, we are going to win the state of ohio and we are going to win the white house area and i worked in ohio and i love ohio, i can tell you. underway.ng is so make sure you mail in your ballots. and you have to do it quickly and in person. but on november 8, get there. we are going to do something that has never been done before in this country. believe me. ladies and gentlemen, i want to make a major announcement today. pledgeike to promise and to all of my voters and supporters and to all of the people of the united states that i will totally accept the

results of this great and historic presidential election if i win. all right. mr. slate, the debate last night was amazing and everybody's that i won. a including every single online and and some had it at 90% close to 90%. so that's close. the question of voter fraud came up during the debate. we want fairness in the

election. this is having nothing to do with me. but having to do with the future of our country. we have to have fairness. john podesta, hillary clinton's campaign chairman, was quoted in wikileaks as saying illegal immigrants could vote as long as the have the drivers license. [booing] what i'm saying is don't be naive, folks. don't be naive. one of the big issues i came up last my was the fact that the clinton campaign has paid people to disrupt violently our rallies and to incite absolute, total bedlam. [chanting]

>> lock her up! mr. trump: it's so bad. i've had occasions where we had was so incredibly violent. i said, what's going on over here? these were paid people by the clinton campaign and it just came out and i give a lot of credit to the people who brought this out, believe me. this is criminal behavior that violates centuries of tradition of peaceful, democratic elections. a campaign like clinton's that will incite violence is truly a campaign that will do anything to win. like crookedte hillary clinton, who will lie to congress, lied to the fbi, destroy 33,000 e-mails, put her office of for sale, and put our

confidential information in the reach of our enemies is a candidate who is truly capable of anything. including voter fraud. learnedion, it was just that hillary clinton was given the exact question to a previous word, by donnar brazil. who is now under tremendous from the dnc,sign as she should be. she should resign. how can a woman do that? that is cheating at the highest level. but i ask you. why shouldn't hillary clinton resign from the race? -- was given -- think of it

she was given these questions. questions,ese studied the questions, got the perfect answer for the questions. and never said that she did something that was totally wrong and inappropriate. , the name crooked hillary. years ago, there was a show called the $64,000 question. a contestant got the questions in advance and his life was ruined. they've found out about it. remember? anybody remember his name? come on. van dorn. very good. you look younger than that. charles van doren. charles and/or and was his name. he got the questions -- charles

van doren was his name. he got the questions. forget donna brazil. she should resign. she looked like a fool last night trying to say, well, she did not know what was going on. she said get me out of here. she got the questions. she got the questions. she gave them to hillary clinton. hillary clinton didn't say that i would like to announce a mistake was made and i can't take these -- i mean, look, how many questions are there, right? can you imagine if i got the questions? there would call for the reestablishment of the electric chair. do you agree with that? right? she got the questions and she didn't report it. she went out there knowing the questions. she didn't report it. that is very dishonest. she is a very dishonest person.

bigger because we are going for the presidency of the united states. so this is very important. hillary clinton is the most corrupt and this honest person ever to seek the office of the presidency. so it is in that context that i was asked the question whether i would agree in advance to concede the results on election night, if for some reason we should lose -- which we are not going to lose. and that was sort of an unprecedented question. had gore or george bush agreed three weeks before the election to concede the results and wave their right to a legal challenge or a recount, then

there would be no supreme court case and no gore versus bush or bush versus gore. and there have been numerous other cases. in effect, i am being asked to waive centuries of legal precedent designed to protect the voters. the listen to this. according to pew, highly respected, there are 24 million voter registrations in the united states that are either invalid or significantly inaccurate. ok. i think the people in this room understand it more than our leaders. leaders maybe our understand more than we think that understand. listen to this. dead.llion people are but there registered to vote. some of whom vote even though the are dead, which is really a

hard thing to do. [laughter] but it's easy if fraud is involved, right? you have 1.8 million people who are dead who are registered to vote. and some of them vote. republican and after death became a democrat. it's true. 2.8 million people are registered in more than one state. got 2.8 million people that can vote in ohio and someplace else. noncitizens are registered to vote. and then we hear we have such a beautiful -- everything so wonderful to you understand where i'm coming from, i think, right? now i am not a politician, so i can see it like it is.

but those are terrible -- those are terrible and frightening statistics. america is a constitutional republic with a system of laws. these laws are triggered in the case of fraud or in the event of a recount where it is needed. of coarse, i would accept a clear election result, but i would also reserve my right to contest or file a legal challenge in the case of a andtionable result, right always, i will follow and abide by all of the rules and traditions of all of the many candidates who have come before me, always. bottom line, we are going to win. we are going to win. we are going to big so big. we are going to win so big.

november 8, we are going to win. together, we are going to puts,r real change that again, america first. it's going to be america first. [chanting] >> usa! usa! usa! usa! mr. trump: thank you. boy, you people have spirit. beautiful. it's a beautiful thing to see. alumina country, it's a beautiful thing. it's a spirit. it's a movement like they've never seen. the dishonest media, they've never seen anything like it. they've never seen anything like it. --are going to negotiate renegotiate our horrible trade deals and illegal immigration, stop the massive inflow of refugees, reduce surging crime,

cut taxes and regulation, ,nleash job-producing energy american energy. and takeur military care of our vets. have not beenrans taken care of the way they've should be taken care of. that i can tell you. are treated oftentimes not as well as illegal immigrants and we are going to change that very fast. our vets will be treated properly and with great respect. that is not happening now. and we are going to repeal and replace obamacare. just in case you haven't noticed, rates are going up 60%,

70%, 80%. next year's going to be worse. it's a catastrophe. his dying anyway. but we are going to repeal it and replace it. aur jobs will come back under trump administration. your jobs are failing. your incomes will go up under a trump administration. your taxes will go way down under a trump administration. and hillary clinton is going to raise your taxes. she is going to raise your taxes. your companies will be leaving ohio under a trump administration. economy isn't growing practically at all. last quarter, it was only around 1% gdp. people have hardly ever heard of numbers like that. or 8%,hina a ghost is 7% it is considered a national catastrophe. here, it is 1%. isn't everything wonderful?

everything is a wonderful. and if it was wonderful, we wouldn't have packed auditoriums everywhere we go. i'm going to get us to 4% growth and maybe more, and create 25 million jobs for our country over the next 10 years. many workers are earning less today than there were 18 years ago. there are working harder. -- they areing working harder. jk are working longer. they are taking home less money. they are getting older and working harder. and saw my. believe me. i'm working harder. companies like carrier are firing their workers and moving to mexico. ford is moving all of their small car production to mexico.

when i'm president, if a company wants to fire their workers and leave for mexico or other countries, then we will charge them a 35% tax when the want to ship their products back into the united states. and a will leave. believe me. leave.ompanies will not if we do that, there will not leave. and you know what? if a do that, we will make a lot of money. but they've will not leave. our politicians should have told you this years ago. you would have stopped this horrible onslaught of companies leaving. the two things. you they're not are -- very smart or their controlled by their donors and special interests. hillary clinton has raised millions of dollars from big donors want to ship our companies.

turns out she wanted open borders. boy, that wikileaks has done a job on her, hasn't it? and you take a look. she really has a hatred almost for catholics. she's got a catholic -- a hatred for evangelicals. what they'd set about catholics and is in jellico's and summit of the things, so many other things. was john podesta say hillary clinton has bad instincts. she has bad instincts. i don't want summit with bad instinct as our president. i'll tell you. if i were hillary, i would fire the guide. he said so many bad things. about obamacare, he said this is the craziest thing i've ever seen. he was right. he suffered that evening, right? he suffered.

but this is why i am proposing a package of ethic reforms to make our government honest once again. the swamp ofdrain corruption in washington, d.c. and we're going to do it. those reforms include the following. a five-year ban on executive branch and congressional officials lobbying the government for government service. that's why the make all these -- that's why they make all these sweetheart deals. a ban on for lobbyists raising money for american elections. i don't want that. you don't want that. nobody wants that. and then you wonder why we make all these dumb deals in these horrible deals. friends of mine come up, how could there make such a stupid deal? a are actually smart. but this is the way the system works.

additionally, i am going to push for a constitutional amendment to propose term limits on all members of congress. it's about time. we end government corruption, but we will end economic stagnation. my plan for the economy can be summed up in three beautiful words. jobs, jobs, jobs. at the center of what will be a historic jobs plan, we will be fixing our terrible trade deals. and they are terrible. 47 million americans are in poverty and 45 million americans are right now on food stamps. we have nearly 800 billion annual trade deficit in goods with the world and the worst so-called recovery since the great depression. you know, we hear about a recovery.

it's the worst since the great depression. hard to believe. ohio lost one in four manufacturing jobs since nafta into the's interest world trade organization, to deals done by bill and backed strongly by did hillary. america has lost -- listen to factories since china joined the wto. and by the way, try doing business in china. not easy, folks, not easy. we are living through the greatest jobs theft in the history of the world. player's -- they there's -- they stealing our jobs, our companies, taking her money. we have drugs. we have debt. we have empty factories. that's going to end. so easy. a trump administration is going to renegotiate nafta, the worst

ever signed -- probably the worst trade you ever signed in stand up to four in cheating and currency manipulation and stop the jobs from leaving our country. we are going to stop them. it will be hard. it won't be hard. in order to bring our jobs back to ohio, michigan, pennsylvania, north carolina, all across this toat nation, i'm going undertake a major reorganization of our bureaucracy, which we have to do. have to do. american trade policy is currently mismanaged by dozens of competing bureaucracies, spread across the departments of agriculture, commerce, labor, state, treasury -- all of these departments, so many departments. get that mosquito out of here. get a little nervous with mosquitoes nowadays, folks. that up here, you have been hit

--. yet. right? that's what we need, a nice mosquito bite. thank you. i love you, too. mosquito bite right smack in the middle of the nose. no, we don't want it. in my administration, all trade policy making will be consolidated into one very important office. [cheering] we are going to call it the american desk. insidewill be located the department of commerce. and i will be checking with those people because we are not going to lose our companies anymore. it's so complicated. so many different departments have to get involved. and by the time the get involved, the argonne -- they argonne. -- they are gone.

the national interest of the united states. they are hurting our national interest. $20 trillion right now, double under obama. and we haven't done anything. our roads are bad, schools are bad, everything is bad. we have all this debt and we haven't started yet. we have to fix the infrastructure of our country. it's going to be america first, believe me. as part of our plan to bring back our jobs, we are going to lower our business tax from 35% to 15%. we are also going to rebuild our inner cities. african-americans and hispanics living in the inner cities are suffering. the violence is unbearable and unbelievable. you walk to the store with your child and you get shot. there's no education. there are no jobs.

and there's practically no safety. nearly 3500 people have been shot in chicago since the beginning of the year, since january 1. 3500 people. that's worse than what you are reading about in the middle east in many cases. homicides are in nearly of by 50% washington, d.c., and more than 60% in baltimore. and it's getting worse. to the african-american and hispanic communities who are suffering, i is say what do you have to lose? vote for donald trump. i'm going to fix the inner cities. i'm going to fix the inner cities. what do you have to lose? . seriously. i mean it. the inner cities are so bad. they've been run by the democrats for decades and decades and decades.

the get the votes and the go on their way and the don't do a thing. i hope the americans, -- i hope the african-americans, hope the hispanics will vote for me. we will be a rich nation once again. but to be a rich country, we must also be a safe country. national security begins at the border. secret to a foreign bank, hillary clinton said her dream is or totally open trade and open borders. you saw that last night when she tried to lie about it. she tried to lie about it and she came up with something, she was talking about energy. just like she lied about other things, she tried to lie -- she said tpp, which is a disaster that it will be a disaster for ohio.

have no guards, no safeguards, they don't talk about currency manipulation in the agreement. of pages long, and a disaster for ohio and pennsylvania. anlary's plan includes open border with the middle east. generations of radicalism roaming within our open shores. a refugee pled guilty to joining isis -- there are many of them. let me state this as clearly as i can predict if i'm elected president of the united states, i'm going to keep radical hell outerrorists the of our country. [applause]

we've got enough problems, don't you think? don't you think we have enough? that will end up being the great trojan horse you will read about -- they will read about in 200 years. we don't want to be a part of that history. we will also stop the crisis of illegal immigration. a trump administration will secure and defend our borders. [applause] yes, we will and build the wall. [applause] and mexico will pay for the wall. we have the first ever endorsement from our ice and border patrol officers. capitali countless american

lives are lost to sanctuary cities. my opponent strongly supports sinks were cities. -- sanctuary cities. like the one that got kate killed by a five-time deported illegal immigrant. i will cut off federal funding to sanctuary cities. [applause] donald trump: and quickly. and we are going to make sure that our immigration authorities do the job they're supposed to peopleg ande are great that are not allowed to do the job. controlase of board of and ice agents, these are great american people. they will be working much harder, they don't have to stand back. we will save american lives. either we win this election or we are going to lose this country.

here are some of the amazing things we are going to be doing for our country starting in 2017. we are going to have the biggest tax cuts since ronald reagan. we will eliminate every unnecessary job killing regulation which affects the many of us. we will defend our religious liberty. we will provide school choice to every low income child in america. and we will end common core. education will be brought local. [applause] donald trump: we will totally support the men and women of law enforcement. [applause] donald trump: we talked about this last night at the debate, we will save the second

amendment which right now is under siege. and i will appoint justices to the united states supreme court who will uphold and defend the constitution of the united states. you have 19 days to make every dream you ever dreamed and your children and your family and your country come true. thank you. god bless you. thank you. [applause] donald trump: our campaign is powered by our love for this country and our love for our fellow citizens and is there any place to be than a trump -- better place to be than a trump rally? it's about rejecting the cynicism of our failed political establishment, which is doing great harm to everybody. i will fight for every citizen

of every background from every stretch of this nation. for everyto fight child living in poverty. i'm going to fight for every mom who lost her child to illegal immigration and drugs and gang violence. i will fight for every community whose jobs and factories have been ripped out of our states like ohio and pennsylvania and florida and so many others. you take a look at new england, you take a look at what's happened, take a look at new york state, upstate new york and you see what's going on. we will never, ever let that happen again. we will bring them back to i'm going to fight for every person in this country who believes government should serve the people, not the donors and the special interests.

[applause] donald trump: and i'm want to fight to bring us all together as americans. imagine what our country could accomplish if we started working together as one people saluting one flag. , in 20 years command 30 years, you will look back at this rally for the rest of your life. but come important things are happening. you will remember this day. this is a movement like nobody has seen in this country before. you will look back at the selection -- this election and say this is the most important vote i've ever cast for anyone at anytime. you will be so proud of your country again and hopefully you

will be very, very proud of your president because he will do a great job. [applause] wnald trump: and when we in, we will make america wealthy again. we will make america strong again. we will make america safe again. america greatke again. thank you, everybody. thank you, ohio. god bless you. god bless you. thank you. [applause] ♪ ♪

[playing the rolling stones' "yo u can't always get what you want "] ♪ ♪ chanting "usa"] ♪ ♪ >> in his speech in ohio and also on twitter, donald trump saying hillary clinton had

gotten debate questions -- her campaign responded with a tweet. he started off his comments and ohio talking about whether he would except the results of this "great and historic presidential election. " donald trump: i would like to promise and pledge to all of my voters and supporters and to all of the people of the united states that i will totally accept the results of this great and historic presidential election if i win. [applause] >> reuters tweeting he would

accept the election result, but also reserving the right to file a legal challenge. all of today's event available at www.c-span.org. years, the presidential candidates turn alm politics to humor at the smith memorial foundation dinner. i must say, i have traveled the circuit for many years, i've never understood the logistics of dinners like this and how the absence of one individual can cause three of us to not have seats. >> i'm glad to see you here tonight. said that you want to get america back to the little guy. , i am thatesident man. honor to share with the defendant of the great out smith.

your great-grandfather was my favorite kind of governor. the kind who ran for president and lost. a campaign can require a lot of wardrobe changes. blue jeans in the morning, perhaps. suits for a lunch fundraiser, sport coat for dinner. it's nice to finally relax and ear what ann and i wear around the house. [laughter] >> our life campaign 2016 debate coverage continues this evening with the ohio senate to make. -- the ohio senate debate. that debate live at 7:00 eastern. on last night's debate,

president obama tweeting 3 debateing 3 for sweep for hillary clinton. nobody has ever been more prepared." donald trump tweeting -- the debate was 90 minutes. [no audio] moderator: good evening from the thomas and mack center at the

university of nevada, las vegas. i'm chris wallace of fox news, and i welcome you to the third and final of the 2016 presidential debates between secretary of state hillary clinton and donald j. trump. this debate is sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. the commission has designed the format -- six roughly 15-minute segments with two-minute answers to the first question, then open discussion for the rest of each segment. both campaigns have agreed to those rules. for the record, i decided the topics and the questions in each topic. none of those questions has been shared with the commission or the two candidates. the audience here in the hall has promised to remain silent. no cheers, boos, or other interruptions so we and you can focus on what the candidates have to say. focus on what the candidates have to say. no noise except right now as we welcome the democratic nominee for president, secretary clinton, and the republican nominee for president, mr.

trump. [applause] cheers and applause] secretary clinton, mr. trump, welcome. let's get right to. it the first topic is the supreme court. you both talked briefly about the court in the last debate. but i want to drill down on this, because the next president will almost certainly have at least one appointment and likely or possibly two or ree appointments which means that you will in effect determine the balance a of the court for what could be the next quarter century. first of all, where do you want to see the court take the country and secondly, what's your view on how the constitution should be interpreted? do the founders' words mean what they say, or is it a living document to be applied

flexibly aye according to changing circumstances -- flexibly according to changing circumstances? secretary clinton, you go first. you have got minutes. hillary: thank you very much, chris, and thanks to unlv for hosting us. i think when we talk about the supreme court, it really raises the central issue in this election. namely, what kind of country are we going to be? what kind of opportunities will we provide for our citizens, what kind of rights will americans have? and i feel strongly that the supreme court needs to stand on the side of the american people, not oned side of the powerful -- on the side of the powerful corporations and the wealthy. for me that means that we need a supreme court that will stand up on behalf of women's rights, on behalf of the rights of the lgbt community, that will stand up and say no to citizens united, a decision that has undermined the election system

in our country because of the way it permits dark, unaccountable money to come into our electoral system. i have major disagreements with my opponent about these issues and others that will be before the supreme court. but i feel that at this point in our country's history, it is important that we not reverse marriage equality, that we not reverse roe v. wade, that we stand up against citizens united, we stand up for the rights of people in the workplace, that we stand up and basically say, the supreme court should represent all of us. that's how i see the court and the kind of people that i would be looking to nominate to the court would be in the great tradition of standing up to the powerful, standing up on behalf of our rights as americans. and i look forward to having that opportunity. i would hope that the senate would do its job.

and confirm the nominee that president obama has sent to them. that's the way the constitution fundamentally should operate. the president nominates and then the senate advises and consents or not. but they go forward with the process. chris: secretary clinton, thank you. mr. trump, same question. where do you want to see thetore question. where do you want to see the court take the country? and how do you believe the constitution should be interpreted? mr. trump: well, first of all, it's great to be with you, and thank you, everybody. the supreme court: it's what it's all about. our country is so, so -- it's just so imperative that we have the right justices. something happened recently where justice ginsburg made some very, very inappropriate statements toward me and toward

a tremendous number of people, many, many millions of people that i represent. and she was forced to apologize. and apologize she did. but these were statements that should never, ever have been made. we need a supreme court that in my opinion is going to uphold the second amendment, and all amendments, but the second amendment, which is under absolute siege. i believe if my opponent should win this race, which i truly don't think will happen, we will have a second amendment which will be a very, very small replica of what it is right now. but i feel that it's absolutely important that we uphold, because of the fact that it is under such trauma. i feel that the justices that i am going to appoint -- and i've named 20 of them -- the justices that i'm going to appoint will be pro-life. they will have a conservative bent. they will be protecting the second amendment. they are great scholars in all cases, and they're people of tremendous respect.

they will interpret the constitution the way the founders wanted it interpreted. and i believe that's very, very important. i don't think we should have justices appointed that decide what they want to hear. it's all about the constitution of -- of -- and so important, the constitution the way it was meant to be. and those are the people that i will appoint. moderator: mr. trump, thank you. moderator: we now have about 10 minutes for an open discussion. i want to focus on two issues that, in fact, by the justices that you name could end up changing the existing law of the land. first is one that you mentioned, mr. trump, and that is guns. secretary clinton, you said last year, let me quote, "the supreme court is wrong on the second amendment." and now, in fact, in the 2008 heller case, the court ruled that there is a constitutional right to bear arms, but a right that is reasonably limited. those were the words of the judge antonin scalia who wrote the decision. what's wrong with that? sec. clinton well, first of all,

i support the second amendment. i lived in arkansas for 18 wonderful years. i represented upstate new york. i understand and respect the tradition of gun ownership. it goes back to the founding of our country. but i also believe that there can be and must be reasonable regulation. because i support the second amendment doesn't mean that i want people who shouldn't have guns to be able to threaten you, kill you or members of your family. and so when i think about what we need to do, we have 33,000 people a year who die from guns. i think we need comprehensive background checks, need to close the online loophole, close the gun show loophole. there's other matters that i think are sensible that are the kind of reforms that would make a difference that are not in any way conflicting with the second amendment. you mentioned the heller decision.

and what i was saying that you referenced, chris, was that i disagreed with the way the court applied the second amendment in that case, because what the district of columbia was trying to do was to protect toddlers from guns and so they wanted people with guns to safely store them. and the court didn't accept that reasonable regulation, but they've accepted many others. so i see no conflict between saving people's lives and defending the second amendment. moderator: let me bring mr. trump in here. the bipartisan open debate coalition got millions of votes on questions to ask here, and this was, in fact, one of the top questions that they got. how will you ensure the second amendment is protected? you just heard secretary clinton's answer. does she persuade you that, while you may disagree on regulation, that, in fact, she supports a second amendment right to bear arms? mr. trump: well, the d.c. vs. heller decision was very strongly -- and she was extremely angry about it. i watched. i mean, she was very, very angry when upheld. and justice scalia was so

involved. and it was a well-crafted decision. but hillary was extremely upset, extremely angry. and people that believe in the second amendment and believe in it very strongly were very upset with what she had to say. moderator: well, let me bring in secretary clinton. were you extremely upset? sec. clinton well, i was upset because, unfortunately, dozens of toddlers injure themselves, even kill people with guns, because, unfortunately, not everyone who has loaded guns in their homes takes appropriate precautions. but there's no doubt that i respect the second amendment, that i also believe there's an individual right to bear arms. that is not in conflict with sensible, commonsense regulation. and, you know, look, i understand that donald's been strongly supported by the nra. the gun lobby's on his side. they're running millions of

dollars of ads against me. and i regret that, because what i would like to see is for people to come together and say: of course we're going to protect and defend the second amendment. but we're going to do it in a way that tries to save some of these 33,000 lives that we lose every year. moderator: let me bring mr. trump back into this, because, in fact, you oppose any limits on assault weapons, any limits on high- capacity magazines. you support a national right to carry law. why, sir? mr. trump: well, let me just tell you before we go any further. in chicago, which has the toughest gun laws in the united states, probably you could say by far, they have more gun violence than any other city. so we have the toughest laws, and you have tremendous gun violence. i am a very strong supporter of the second amendment. and i am -- i don't know if hillary was saying it in a sarcastic manner, but i'm very proud to have the endorsement of the nra. and it's the earliest endorsement they've ever given to anybody who ran for president.

so i'm very honored by all of that. we are going to appoint justices -- this is the best way to help the second amendment. we are going to appoint justices that will feel very strongly about the second amendment, that will not do damage to the second amendment. moderator: well, let's pick up on another issue which divides you and the justices that whoever ends up winning this election appoints could have a dramatic effect there, and that's the issue of abortion. mr. trump: right. moderator: mr. trump, you're pro-life. but i want to ask you specifically: do you want the court, including the justices that you will name, to overturn roe v. wade, which includes -- in fact, states -- a woman's right to abortion? mr. trump: well, if that would happen, because i am pro-life, and i will be appointing pro-life judges, i would think that that will go back to the individual states. moderator: but i'm asking you specifically. would you like to -- mr. trump: if they overturned it, it will go back to the states. moderator: but what i'm asking you, sir, is, do you want to see the court overturn -- you just said you want to see the court protect the second amendment. do you want to see the court overturn roe v. wade? mr. trump: well, if we put

another two or perhaps three justice on, that's really what's going to be -- that will happen. and that'll happen automatically, in my opinion, because i am putting pro-life justices on the court. i will say this: it will go back to the states, and the states will then make a determination. moderator: secretary clinton? sec. clinton well, i strongly support roe v. wade, which guarantees a constitutional right to a woman to make the most intimate, most difficult, in many cases, decisions about her health care that one can imagine. and in this case, it's not only about roe v. wade. it is about what's happening right now in america. so many states are putting very stringent regulations on women that block them from exercising that choice to the extent that they are defunding planned parenthood, which, of course, provides all kinds of cancer screenings and other benefits for women in our country. donald has said he's in favor of

defunding planned parenthood. he even supported shutting the government down to defund planned parenthood. i will defend planned parenthood. i will defend roe v. wade, and i will defend women's rights to make their own health care decisions. moderator: secretary clinton -- sec. clinton and we have come too far to have that turned back now. and, indeed, he said women should be punished, that there should be some form of punishment for women who obtain abortions. and i could just not be more opposed to that kind of thinking. moderator: i'm going to give you a chance to respond, but i want to ask you, secretary clinton, i want to explore how far you believe the right to abortion goes. you have been quoted as saying that the fetus has no constitutional rights. you also voted against a ban on late-term, partial-birth abortions. why? sec. clinton because roe v. wade very clearly sets out that there can be regulations on

abortion so long as the life and the health of the mother are taken into account. and when i voted as a senator, i did not think that that was the case. the kinds of cases that fall at the end of pregnancy are often the most heartbreaking, painful decisions for families to make. i have met with women who toward the end of their pregnancy get the worst news one could get, that their health is in jeopardy if they continue to carry to term or that something terrible has happened or just been discovered about the pregnancy. i do not think the united states government should be stepping in and making those most personal of decisions. so you can regulate if you are doing so with the life and the health of the mother taken into account. moderator: mr. trump, your reaction? and particularly on this issue of late-term, partial-birth abortions. mr. trump: well, i think it's terrible. if you go with what hillary is

saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby. now, you can say that that's ok and hillary can say that that's ok. but it's not ok with me, because based on what she's saying, and based on where she's going, and where she's been, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month on the final day. and that's not acceptable. sec. clinton well, that is not what happens in these cases. and using that kind of scare rhetoric is just terribly unfortunate. you should meet with some of the women that i have met with, women i have known over the course of my life. this is one of the worst possible choices that any woman and her family has to make. and i do not believe the government should be making it. you know, i've had the great honor of traveling across the world on behalf of our country.

i've been to countries where governments either forced women to have abortions, like they used to do in china, or forced women to bear children, like they used to do in romania. and i can tell you: the government has no business in the decisions that women make with their families in accordance with their faith, with medical advice. and i will stand up for that right. moderator: all right. but just briefly, i want to move on to another segment -- mr. trump: and, honestly, nobody has business doing what i just said, doing that, as late as one or two or three or four days prior to birth. nobody has that. moderator: all right. let's move on to the subject of immigration. and there is almost no issue that separates the two of you more than the issue of immigration. actually, there are a lot of issues that separate the two of you. mr. trump, you want to build a wall. secretary clinton, you have offered no specific plan for how you want to secure our southern border. mr. trump, you are calling for major deportations. secretary clinton, you say that within your first 100 days as president you're going to offer a package that includes a

pathway to citizenship. the question, really, is, why are you right and your opponent wrong? mr. trump, you go first in this segment. you have two minutes. mr. trump: well, first of all, she wants to give amnesty, which is a disaster and very unfair to all of the people that are waiting on line for many, many years. we need strong borders. in the audience tonight, we have four mothers of -- i mean, these are unbelievable people that i've gotten to know over a period of years whose children have been killed, brutally killed by people that came into the country illegally. you have thousands of mothers and fathers and relatives all over the country. they're coming in illegally. drugs are pouring in through the border. we have no country if we have no border. hillary wants to give amnesty. she wants to have open borders. the border -- as you know, the border patrol agents, 16,500-plus ice last week, endorsed me. first time they've ever endorsed a candidate. it means their job is tougher. but they know what's going on. they know it better than anybody. they want strong borders.

they feel we have to have strong borders. i was up in new hampshire the other day. the biggest complaint they have -- it's with all of the problems going on in the world, many of the problems caused by hillary clinton and by barack obama. all of the problems -- the single biggest problem is heroin that pours across our southern border. it's just pouring and destroying their youth. it's poisoning the blood of their youth and plenty of other people. we have to have strong borders. we have to keep the drugs out of our country. we are -- right now, we're getting the drugs, they're getting the cash. we need strong borders. we need absolute -- we cannot give amnesty. now, i want to build the wall. we need the wall. and the border patrol, ice, they all want the wall. we stop the drugs. we shore up the border. one of my first acts will be to get all of the drug lords, all of the bad ones -- we have some bad, bad people in this country that have to go out. we're going to get them out; we're going to secure the border. and once the border is secured, at a later date, we'll make a determination as to the rest. but we have some bad hombres

here, and we're going to get them out. moderator: mr. trump, thank you. same question to you, secretary clinton. basically, why are you right and mr. trump is wrong? sec. clinton well, as he was talking, i was thinking about a young girl i met here in las vegas, carla, who is very worried that her parents might be deported, because she was born in this country but they were not. they work hard, they do everything they can to give her a good life. and you're right. i don't want to rip families apart. i don't want to be sending parents away from children. i don't want to see the deportation force that donald has talked about in action in our country. we have 11 million undocumented people. they have 4 million american citizen children, 15 million people. he said as recently as a few weeks ago in phoenix that every undocumented person would be subject to deportation. now, here's what that means. it means you would have to have a massive law enforcement presence, where law enforcement officers would be going school

to school, home to home, business to business, rounding up people who are undocumented. and we would then have to put them on trains, on buses to get them out of our country. i think that is an idea that is not in keeping with who we are as a nation. i think it's an idea that would rip our country apart. i have been for border security for years. i voted for border security in the united states senate. and my comprehensive immigration reform plan of course includes border security. but i want to put our resources where i think they're most needed: getting rid of any violent person. anybody who should be deported, we should deport them. when it comes to the wall that donald talks about building, he went to mexico, he had a meeting

with the mexican president. didn't even raise it. he choked and then got into a twitter war because the mexican president said we're not paying for that wall. so i think we are both a nation of immigrants and we are a nation of laws and that we can act accordingly. and that's why i'm introducing comprehensive immigration reform within the first 100 days with the path to citizenship. moderator: thank you, secretary clinton. i want to follow up -- mr. trump: chris, i think it's -- moderator: ok. mr. trump: i think i should respond to that. first of all, i had a very good meeting with the president of mexico. very nice man. we will be doing very much better with mexico on trade deals. believe me. the nafta deal signed by her husband is one of the worst deals ever made of any kind, signed by anybody. it's a disaster. hillary clinton wanted the wall. hillary clinton fought for the wall in 2006 or thereabouts. now, she never gets anything done, so naturally the wall wasn't built. but hillary clinton wanted the wall. moderator: well, let me -- wait, wait, sir, let me -- mr. trump: we are a country of laws.

we either have -- and by the way -- moderator: now, wait. i'd like to hear from -- mr. trump: well -- well, but she said one thing. moderator: i'd like to hear -- i'd like to hear from secretary clinton. sec. clinton i voted for border security, and there are -- mr. trump: and the wall. sec. clinton there are some limited places where that was appropriate. there also is necessarily going to be new technology and how best to deploy that. but it is clear, when you look at what donald has been proposing, he started his campaign bashing immigrants, calling mexican immigrants rapists and criminals and drug dealers, that he has a very different view about what we should do to deal with immigrants. now, what i am also arguing is that bringing undocumented immigrants out from the shadows, putting them into the formal economy will be good, because then employers can't exploit them and undercut americans' wages. and donald knows a lot about this. he used undocumented labor to build the trump tower. he underpaid undocumented workers, and when they complained, he basically said what a lot of employers do: "you complain, i'll get you deported."

i want to get everybody out of the shadows, get the economy working, and not let employers like donald exploit undocumented workers, which hurts them, but also hurts american workers. moderator: mr. trump? mr. trump: president obama has moved millions of people out. nobody knows about it, nobody talks about it. but under obama, millions of people have been moved out of this country. they've been deported. she doesn't want to say that, but that's what's happened, and that's what happened big league. as far as moving these people out and moving -- we either have a country or we don't. we're a country of laws. we either have a border or we don't. now, you can come back in and you can become a citizen. but it's very unfair. we have millions of people that did it the right way. they're on line. they're waiting. we're going to speed up the process, big league, because it's very inefficient. but they're on line and they're waiting to become citizens. very unfair that somebody runs across the border, becomes a citizen, under her plan, you have open borders. you would have a disaster on trade, and you will have a disaster with your open borders. moderator: i want to -- mr. trump: but what she doesn't

say is that president obama has deported millions and millions of people just the way it is. moderator: secretary clinton, i want to -- sec. clinton we will not have open borders. that is -- moderator: well, let me -- secretary -- sec. clinton that is a rank mischaracterization. moderator: secretary clinton -- sec. clinton we will have secure borders, but we'll also have reform. and this used to be a bipartisan issue. ronald reagan was the last president -- moderator: secretary clinton, excuse me. secretary clinton. sec. clinton -- to sign immigration reform, and george w. bush supported it, as well. moderator: secretary clinton, i want to clear up your position on this issue, because in a speech you gave to a brazilian bank, for which you were paid $225,000, we've learned from the wikileaks, that you said this, and i want to quote. "my dream is a hemispheric common market with open trade and open borders." so that's the question -- mr. trump: thank you. moderator: that's the question. please quiet, everybody. is that your dream, open borders? sec. clinton well, if you went on to read the rest of the sentence, i was talking about energy. you know, we trade more energy

with our neighbors than we trade with the rest of the world combined. and i do want us to have an electric grid, an energy system that crosses borders. i think that would be a great benefit to us. but you are very clearly quoting from wikileaks. and what's really important about wikileaks is that the russian government has engaged in espionage against americans. they have hacked american websites, american accounts of private people, of institutions. then they have given that information to wikileaks for the purpose of putting it on the internet. this has come from the highest levels of the russian government, clearly, from putin himself, in an effort, as 17 of our intelligence agencies have confirmed, to influence our election. sec. clinton so i actually think the most important question of

this evening, chris, is, finally, will donald trump admit and condemn that the russians are doing this and make it clear that he will not have the help of putin in in this election, that he rejects russian espionage against americans, which he actually encouraged in the past? those are the questions we need answered. we've never had anything like this happen in any of our elections before. moderator: well? mr. trump: that was a great pivot off the fact that she wants open borders, ok? how did we get on to putin? moderator: hold on -- hold on, wait. hold on, folks. because we -- this is going to end up getting out of control. let's try to keep it quiet so -- for the candidates and for the american people. mr. trump: so just to finish on the borders -- moderator: yes? mr. trump: she wants open borders. people are going to pour into our country. people are going to come in from syria. she wants 550 percent more people than barack obama, and he has thousands and thousands of people. they have no idea where they come from. and you see, we are going to stop radical islamic terrorism

in this country. she won't even mention the words, and neither will president obama. so i just want to tell you, she wants open borders. now we can talk about putin. i don't know putin. he said nice things about me. if we got along well, that would be good. if russia and the united states got along well and went after isis, that would be good. he has no respect for her. he has no respect for our president. and i'll tell you what: we're in very serious trouble, because we have a country with tremendous numbers of nuclear warheads -- 1,800, by the way -- where they expanded and we didn't, 1,800 nuclear warheads. and she's playing chicken. look, putin -- moderator: wait, but -- mr. trump: -- from everything i see, has no respect for this person. sec. clinton well, that's because he'd rather have a puppet as president of the united states. mr. trump: no puppet. no puppet. sec. clinton and it's pretty clear -- mr. trump: you're the puppet! sec. clinton it's pretty clear you won't admit -- mr. trump: no, you're the puppet. sec. clinton -- that the russians have engaged in cyberattacks against the united states of america, that you encouraged espionage against our

people, that you are willing to spout the putin line, sign up for his wish list, break up nato, do whatever he wants to do, and that you continue to get help from him, because he has a very clear favorite in this race. so i think that this is such an unprecedented situation. we've never had a foreign government trying to interfere in our election. we have 17 -- 17 intelligence agencies, civilian and military, who have all concluded that these espionage attacks, these cyberattacks, come from the highest levels of the kremlin and they are designed to influence our election. i find that deeply disturbing. moderator: secretary clinton -- sec. clinton and i think it's time you take a stand -- mr. trump: she has no idea whether it's russia, china, or anybody else. sec. clinton i am not quoting myself. mr. trump: she has no idea. sec. clinton i am quoting 17 -- mr. trump: hillary, you have no idea. sec. clinton -- 17 intelligence -- do you doubt 17 military and civilian --

mr. trump: and our country has no idea. sec. clinton -- agencies. mr. trump: yeah, i doubt it. i doubt it. sec. clinton well, he'd rather believe vladimir putin than the military and civilian intelligence professionals who are sworn to protect us. i find that just absolutely -- mr. trump: she doesn't like putin because putin has outsmarted her at every step of the way. moderator: mr. trump -- mr. trump: excuse me. putin has outsmarted her in syria. moderator: mr. trump -- mr. trump: he's outsmarted her every step of the way. moderator: i do get to ask some questions. mr. trump: yes, that's fine. moderator: and i would like to ask you this direct question. the top national security officials of this country do believe that russia has been behind these hacks. even if you don't know for sure whether they are, do you condemn any interference by russia in the american election? mr. trump: by russia or anybody else. moderator: you condemn their interference? mr. trump: of course i condemn. of course i -- i don't know putin. i have no idea. moderator: i'm not asking -- i'm asking do you condemn? mr. trump: i never met putin.

this is not my best friend. but if the united states got along with russia, wouldn't be so bad. let me tell you, putin has outsmarted her and obama at every single step of the way. whether it's syria, you name it. missiles. take a look at the "start up" that they signed. the russians have said, according to many, many reports, i can't believe they allowed us to do this. they create warheads, and we can't. the russians can't believe it. she has been outsmarted by putin. and all you have to do is look at the middle east. they've taken over. we've spent $6 trillion. they've taken over the middle east. she has been outsmarted and outplayed worse than anybody i've ever seen in any government whatsoever. moderator: we're a long way away from immigration, but i'm going to let you finish this topic. you got about 45 seconds. mr. trump: and she always will be. sec. clinton i -- i find it ironic that he's raising nuclear weapons. this is a person who has been very cavalier, even casual about the use of nuclear weapons. he's -- mr. trump: wrong. sec. clinton -- advocated more countries getting them, japan, korea, even saudi arabia.

he said, well, if we have them, why don't we use them, which i think is terrifying. but here's the deal. the bottom line on nuclear weapons is that when the president gives the order, it must be followed. there's about four minutes between the order being given and the people responsible for launching nuclear weapons to do so. and that's why 10 people who have had that awesome responsibility have come out and, in an unprecedented way, said they would not trust donald trump with the nuclear codes or to have his finger on the nuclear button. mr. trump: i have 200 generals -- moderator: very quickly. mr. trump: -- and admirals, 21 endorsing me, 21 congressional medal of honor recipients. as far as japan and other countries, we are being ripped off by everybody in the -- we're defending other countries. we are spending a fortune doing it. they have the bargain of the century. all i said is, we have to renegotiate these agreements,

because our country cannot afford to defend saudi arabia, japan, germany, south korea, and many other places. we cannot continue to afford -- she took that as saying nuclear weapons. moderator: ok. mr. trump: look, she's been proven to be a liar on so many different ways. this is just another lie. sec. clinton well, i'm just quoting you when you were asked -- mr. trump: there's no quote. you're not going to find a quote from me. sec. clinton -- about a potential nuclear -- nuclear competition in asia, you said, you know, go ahead, enjoy yourselves, folks. that kind -- mr. trump: and defend yourselves. sec. clinton -- of language -- well -- mr. trump: and defend yourselves. i didn't say nuclear. and defend yourself. sec. clinton the united states has kept the peace -- the united states has kept the peace through our alliances. donald wants to tear up our alliances. i think it makes the world safer and, frankly, it makes the united states safer. i would work with our allies in asia, in europe, in the middle east, and elsewhere. that's the only way we're going to be able to keep the peace. moderator: we're going to -- no, we are going to move on to the

next topic, which is the economy. and i hope we handle that as well as we did immigration. you also have very different ideas about how to get the economy growing faster. secretary clinton, in your plan, government plays a big role. you see more government spending, more entitlements, more tax credits, more tax penalties. mr. trump, you want to get government out with lower taxes and less regulation. mr. trump: yes. moderator: we're going to drill down into this a little bit more. but in this overview, please explain to me why you believe that your plan will create more jobs and growth for this country and your opponent's plan will not. in this round, you go first, secretary clinton. sec. clinton well, i think when the middle class thrives, america thrives. and so my plan is based on growing the economy, giving middle-class families many more opportunities. i want us to have the biggest jobs program since world war ii, jobs in infrastructure and advanced manufacturing. i think we can compete with high-wage countries, and i

believe we should. new jobs and clean energy, not only to fight climate change, which is a serious problem, but to create new opportunities and new businesses. i want us to do more to help small business. that's where two- thirds of the new jobs are going to come from. i want us to raise the national minimum wage, because people who live in poverty should not -- who work full-time should not still be in poverty. and i sure do want to make sure women get equal pay for the work we do. i feel strongly that we have to have an education system that starts with preschool and goes through college. that's why i want more technical education in high schools and in community colleges, real apprenticeships to prepare young people for the jobs of the future. i want to make college debt-free and for families making less than $125,000, you will not get a tuition bill from a public college or university if the plan that i worked on with bernie sanders is enacted. and we're going to work hard to make sure that it is, because we are going to go where the money is. most of the gains in the last

years since the great recession have gone to the very top. so we are going to have the wealthy pay their fair share. we're going to have corporations make a contribution greater than they are now to our country. that is a plan that has been analyzed by independent experts which said that it could produce 10 million new jobs. by contrast, donald's plan has been analyzed to conclude it might lose 3.5 million jobs. why? because his whole plan is to cut taxes, to give the biggest tax breaks ever to the wealthy and to corporations, adding $20 trillion to our debt, and causing the kind of dislocation that we have seen before, because it truly will be trickle-down economics on steroids. so the plan i have i think will actually produce greater opportunities. the plan he has will cost us jobs and possibly lead to

another great recession. moderator: secretary, thank you. mr. trump, why will your plan create more jobs and growth than secretary clinton's? mr. trump: well, first of all, before i start on my plan, her plan is going to raise taxes and even double your taxes. her tax plan is a disaster. and she can say all she wants about college tuition. and i'm a big proponent. we're going to do a lot of things for college tuition. but the rest of the public's going to be paying for it. we will have a massive, massive tax increase under hillary clinton's plan. mr. trump: but i'd like to start off where we left, because when i said japan and germany, and i'm -- not to single them out, but south korea, these are very rich, powerful countries. saudi arabia, nothing but money. we protect saudi arabia. why aren't they paying? she immediately -- when she heard this, i questioned it, and i questioned nato. why aren't the nato questioned -- why aren't they paying? because they weren't paying. since i did this -- this was a year ago -- all of a sudden, they're paying. and i've been given a lot -- a lot of credit for it. all of a sudden, they're starting to pay up.

they have to pay up. we're protecting people, they have to pay up. and i'm a big fan of nato. but they have to pay up. she comes out and said, we love our allies, we think our allies are great. well, it's awfully hard to get them to pay up when you have somebody saying we think how great they are. we have to tell japan in a very nice way, we have to tell germany, all of these countries, south korea, we have to say, you have to help us out. we have, during his regime, during president obama's regime, we've doubled our national debt. we're up to $20 trillion. so my plan -- we're going to renegotiate trade deals. we're going to have a lot of free trade. we're going to have free trade, more free trade than we have right now. but we have horrible deals. our jobs are being taken out by the deal that her husband signed, nafta, one of the worst deals ever. our jobs are being sucked out of our economy. you look at all of the places that i just left, you go to pennsylvania, you go to ohio, you go to florida, you go to any of them. you go upstate new york. our jobs have fled to mexico and other places. we're bringing our jobs back. i am going to renegotiate nafta. and if i can't make a great deal

-- then we're going to terminate nafta and we're going to create new deals. we're going to have trade, but we're going -- we're going to terminate it, we're going to make a great trade deal. and if we can't, we're going to do it -- we're going to go a separate way, because it has been a disaster. we are going to cut taxes massively. we're going to cut business taxes massively. they're going to start hiring people. we're going to bring the $2.5 trillion -- moderator: time, mr. trump. mr. trump: -- that's offshore back into the country. we are going to start the engine rolling again, because -- moderator: mr. trump? mr. trump: -- right now, our country is dying at 1 percent gdp. sec. clinton well, let me translate that, if i can, chris, because -- mr. trump: you can't. sec. clinton -- the fact is, he's going to advocate for the largest tax cuts we've ever seen, three times more than the tax cuts under the bush administration. i have said repeatedly throughout this campaign: i will not raise taxes on anyone making $250,000 or less. i also will not add a penny to the debt. i have costed out what i'm going to do. he will, through his massive tax cuts, add $20 trillion to the

debt. well, he mentioned the debt. we know how to get control of the debt. when my husband was president, we went from a $300 billion deficit to a $200 billion surplus and we were actually on the path to eliminating the national debt. e en president obama training, and the opportunities for people to get ahead and stay ahead. that's the kind of approach that will work. moderator: secretary -- sec. clinton cutting taxes on the wealthy, we've tried that. it has not worked the way that it has been promised. moderator: secretary clinton, i want to pursue your plan, because in many ways it is similar to the obama stimulus plan in 2009, which has led to the slowest gdp growth since 1949. mr. trump: correct. moderator: thank you, sir. you told me in july when we spoke that the problem is that president obama didn't get to do enough in what he was trying to

do with his stimulus. so is your plan basically more -- even more of the obama stimulus? sec. clinton well, it's a combination, chris. and let me say that when you inherit the level of economic catastrophe that president obama inherited, it was a real touch-and-go situation. i was in the senate before i became secretary of state. i've never seen people as physically distraught as the bush administration team was because of what was happening to the economy. i personally believe that the steps that president obama took saved the economy. he doesn't get the credit he deserves for taking some very hard positions. but it was a terrible recession. so now we've dug ourselves out of it, we're standing, but we're not yet running. so what i am proposing is that we invest from the middle out and the ground up, not the top down. that is not going to work. that's why what i have put forward doesn't add a penny to the debt, but it is the kind of

approach that will enable more people to take those new jobs, higher-paying jobs. we're beginning to see some of increasing jobs. we've got to do more to get the whole economy moving, and that's what i believe i will be able to do. moderator: mr. trump, even conservative economists who have looked at your plan say that the numbers don't add up, that your idea, and you've talked about 25 million jobs created, 4 percent -- mr. trump: over a 10-year period. moderator: -- growth is unrealistic. and they say -- you talk a lot about growing the energy industry. they say with oil prices as low as they are right now, that's unrealistic, as well. your response, sir? mr. trump: so i just left some high representatives of india. they're growing at 8 percent. china is growing at 7 percent. and that for them is a catastrophically low number. we are growing -- our last report came out -- and it's

right around the 1 percent level. and i think it's going down. last week, as you know, the end of last week, they came out with an anemic jobs report. a terrible jobs report. in fact i said, is that the last jobs report before the election? because if it is, i should win easily, it was so bad. the report was so bad. look, our country is stagnant. we've lost our jobs. we've lost our businesses. we're not making things anymore, relatively speaking. our product is pouring in from china, pouring in from vietnam, pouring in from all over the world. i've visited so many communities. this has been such an incredible education for me, chris. i've gotten to know so many -- i've developed so many friends over the last year. and they cry when they see what's happened. i pass factories that were thriving 20, 25 years ago, and because of the bill that her husband signed and she blessed

100 percent, it is just horrible what's happened to these people in these communities. now, she can say that her husband did well, but, boy, did they suffer as nafta kicked in, because it didn't really kick in very much, but it kicked in after they left. boy, did they suffer. that was one of the worst things that's ever been signed by our country. now she wants to sign trans-pacific partnership. and she wants it. she lied when she said she didn't call it the gold standard in one of the debates. she totally lied. she did call it the gold standard. and they actually fact checked, and they said i was right. i was so honored. moderator: i want you to give you a chance to briefly speak to that, and then i want to pivot to one-sixth of the economy -- mr. trump: and that will be as bad as nafta. moderator: -- which is obamacare. but go ahead, briefly. sec. clinton well, first, let me say, number one, when i saw the final agreement for tpp, i said i was against it. it didn't meet my test. i've had the same test. does it create jobs, raise incomes, and further our national security? i'm against it now. i'll be against it after the

election. i'll be against it when i'm president. there's only one of us on this stage who's actually shipped jobs to mexico, because that's donald. he's shipped jobs to 12 countries, including mexico. but he mentioned china. and, you know, one of the biggest problems we have with china is the illegal dumping of steel and aluminum into our markets. i have fought against that as a senator. i've stood up against it as secretary of state. donald has bought chinese steel and aluminum. in fact, the trump hotel right here in las vegas was made with chinese steel. so he goes around with crocodile tears about how terrible it is, but he has given jobs to chinese steelworkers, not american steelworkers. moderator: mr. trump? sec. clinton that's the kind of approach that is just not going to work. mr. trump: well, let me just say -- let me just say. sec. clinton we're going to pull the country together. we're going to have trade agreements that we enforce. that's why i'm going to have a trade prosecutor for the first time in history. and we're going to enforce those agreements, and we're going to look for businesses to help us by buying american products. moderator: secretary clinton? go ahead, mr. trump. mr. trump: let me ask a simple question. she's been doing this for 30 years. why the hell didn't you do it over the last 15, 20 years? sec. clinton no, i voted. mr. trump: you were very much involved -- excuse me. my turn.

you were very much involved in every aspect of this country. very much. and you do have experience. i say the one thing you have over me is experience, but it's bad experience, because what you've done has turned out badly. for 30 years, you've been in a position to help, and if you say that i use steel or i use something else, i -- make it impossible for me to do that. i wouldn't mind. the problem is, you talk, but you don't get anything done, hillary. you don't. just like when you ran the state department, $6 billion was missing. how do you miss $6 billion? you ran the state department, $6 billion was either stolen. they don't know. it's gone, $6 billion. if you become president, this country is going to be in some mess. believe me. sec. clinton well, first of all, what he just said about the state department is not only untrue, it's been debunked numerous times. sec. clinton but i think it's really an important issue. he raised the 30 years of experience, so let me just talk

briefly about that. you know, back in the 1970s, i worked for the children's defense fund. and i was taking on discrimination against african-american kids in schools. he was getting sued by the justice department for racial discrimination in his apartment buildings. in the 1980s, i was working to reform the schools in arkansas. he was borrowing $14 million from his father to start his businesses. in the 1990s, i went to beijing and i said women's rights are human rights. he insulted a former miss universe, alicia machado, called her an eating machine. mr. trump: give me a break. sec. clinton and on the day when i was in the situation room, monitoring the raid that brought