handled at the community level, or is there a role for the federal government? forhere certainly is a role the federal government and you are right in describing the problem, it is a scourge. people are dying needlessly, in part because we don't have adequate treatment available for people who are seeking treatment. i know something about this. i just lost a very close relative to oxycontin overdose a few months ago. it was a sad and a tragic event. a beautiful young man who should not have died. but the fact is that i was aware of this when i was governor and i started the prescription drug task force when i was governor. because so many of these addictions begin as a prescription use and then people get addicted and they don't -- no longer have the prescription or it's too costly so they go to the streets and they find heroin and other substitutes. communities need help. and i applaud my opponent for calling attention to this issue. but he has voted against the

very resources that communities like cleveland need to fight this scourge. the omnibus bill he voted against. i'm not surprised because there were 14 other things in that omnibus bill that he took credit for. and he voted against. so, senator portman is good about describing the problem. and he's even good about showing personal concern. but he won't bite the bullet and provide the resources. he let other senators cast the vote, carry the water, and then he takes credit. danita: senator portman, where should the weight lie? is this a community weight that should be carried by community leaders, or should the government, the federal government, step in and do something? mr. portman: i've been the lead in washington on this because i believe the federal government does have a role to play. it's an epidemic. we spend emergency money on ebola or the zika virus. this is an epidemic. this is an emergency, in my

view. that's why i pushed hard over the last few years to write the comprehensive addiction and recovery act, brought in people from around the country. including in ohio. a woman here lost her daughter, holly, to a heroin overdose. now she's taken her loss and constructively channeled it into trying to help, including helping me write this legislation. she testified in washington, d.c., before the judiciary committee, to try to be sure that we wrote legislation that really would help in term of prevention and education treatment and recovery. i was at the women's shelter today meeting with women who are recovering addicts. they need help. they need it now. cleveland lost about one person per day last year to heroin and prescription drug overdoses. this year we're on track to lose maybe as many as two people a day. we may see a doubling. and more people being lost not just to heroin but synthetic heroin, fentanyl. this is why my legislation is so important to get implemented. i got $37 million into the short-term budget between now and december 9. there were no other major exceptions to that legislation

except mine. why? because i was able to convince my colleagues this is an emergency, something we must fund. what governor strickland is talking about is politics. what i'm talking about is how to solve this problem and how to address it in a way that uses best practices from all around the country. that's what the comprehensive addiction recovery act will do. danita: governor strictland, you can respond to that. mr. strickland: i'm not talking about politics. i'm talking about his record. december of last year in the omnibus bill, there was money in there to provide communities like cleveland resources to fight this scourge. and he voted against it. then he spent months traveling around ohio, telling people how concerned he is and how much he's done. he didn't have the courage to actually cast the vote. he let other senators cast the vote. and then he's taken credit for what others have done. he doesn't carry the water, other senators had to carry the water for him. mr. portman: can i respond to that? karen: no, we have to move on.

you called a halt to the settlement of syrian refugees into the united states. you had concerns about their background checks. you also called the persecution of christian and other minority religious groups in the middle east genocide and called on the u.s. to do more to protect them. most polls show americans are opposed to the u.s. accepting more syrian refugees, the pictures from syria are haunting. such as the one of a young boy in the back of an ambulance covered in blood and dust from an air strike. what role if any do you think the u.s. should play with regard to the people of syria? mr. portman: i think we've let the people of syria down. sadly there are over 200,000 people who have been killed by their own government there. four million people or more have now fled the country as refugees. many have stayed in the area to be resettled. others have gone to europe, over a million. some have come here. my response to the question

about bringing additional syrian refugees was because before the homeland security committee, the director of the f.b.i. said that we cannot figure out who these people are, what their intentions are, because we have no information on them. we don't have any contact with the syrian government or any people on the ground to be able to determine that. that to me is not a good thing for the united states to do. instead, what i've called for, since my first day of senate, is to say, let's create in syria a safe zone, a no-fly zone. where they can stay in their own country. when these refugees have been interviewed and they're asked, would you rather go to the to europe, the united states, they say, we'd rather stay home. yet the united states continues to draw red lines to say, we're going to do this in syria to help, we're going to stop the chemical weapons, we're going to provide a safe zone, and they then we don't honor them. you see this in aleppo tonight, as we talk here tonight. the the russians and the forces of assad are bombing civilians.

he's been dumping these barrel bombs onto his civilians over the past several years. killing over 200,000 of his own people. the united states has not led. we lead from behind. which is what the obama administration promised they would do and that's exactly what they have done. it's what ted strickland supports and the led to tragic consequences. karen: governor strickland, what would you do, what do you think is the role of the u.s. regarding the people of syria? mr. strickland: let me say that we have lost a brave american just recently in the fighting that's taken place near mosul. we all remember that. only 1% of the american people protect the 99% of us. and we ought to honor our men and women who serve us and never forget their sacrifice for us. syria is a very complex problem. to be honest with you, i think much of what we're experiencing in syria and that part of the world today is a direct result of the fact that we went into iraq some 14, 15 years ago. but what's happening in syria is tragic. russia is complicating it. there are so many factions in syria. and just let me say that i

believe our first obligation is to keep americans safe, and that's my intention, there are some things that we can do there. we can increase our use of air power, we can increase our use of drones. we can increase our intelligence gathering. but i'll tell you one thing that i will never support and that's ground troops being reintroduced into that part of the world. we cannot solve every problem. this war has gone on in that part of the world for some 15 years and i think americans are sick of the war. and they understand that there are some things that we can do. in terms of the refugees, i believe we need to honor our values and we need to bring in those who are properly vetted. it takes about a two-year period of time to vet syrian refugees. mr. portman: again, my concern with the way we have gone about

the syrian situation is a much broader one which is america's role in the world has been diminished under this president and with the support of my opponent. when he moved to washington, d.c., to become a lobbyist for this group called center for american progress, he took on these positions of having america withdraw its strong leadership role around the world. you see the consequences. a void has occurred. look what's happening on the eastern border of ukraine with russia tonight, what happened in crimea, what's happening in the south china sea with regard to china building military bases on a corral reef and what's happening sadly in syria and iraq, so many people losing their lives. america has pulled back in many respects. china and russia has taken our place. danita: governor strickland, as we look at the issue of criminal justice reform, we see that police brutality and the shooting of citizens have been in the headlines across the country and ohio is not immune. here in cleveland, the police department is implementing a consent decree with the justice department. but the problems extends far beyond the police and into the courts where according to politifact, minorities are more

likely to be overcharged or face harsher sentences than white defendants. what specific measures can senators take to address the systemic problems within our judicial systems at the local level? mr. strickland: we have a problem, we need to face it, we needed to deal with it. too many young men of color are losing their lives in america. the statistics don't lie. it's happening. in my judgment, tamir rice should be alive today. and the man who was in the wal-mart store holding a toy gun that wal-mart sold should be alive. so what should we do? we need to recognize that black lives do in fact matter. and that there is a disproportionate number of deaths occurring among the community of african-americans and other people of color. and i believe our government at every level has a responsibility

to acknowledge it and to work to stop it. we've got to come together, but we can't solve the problem unless we recognize it. and admit it. and then come together and work to solve it. so there's a federal role. i'm glad the federal government is getting involved in many of these situations. one of the things we shouldn't do is what senator portman has proposed to do. he has authored and introduced a national stop and frisk bill. that's not the approach we need. we need to pull communities together, not use issues that drive them apart. but the first thing we need to do is acknowledge the problem and then commit ourselves to finding solutions to that problem. danita: senator portman. mr. portman: you asked about criminal justice reform and some of the deeper problems. there is legislation, as you may know, in the senate, cory booker's legislation, that's

bipartisan, to reform some of our criminal justice system, some of our laws, some of the disparate outcomes that have occurred. i'm in support of that legislation. i'm a co-sponsor of it. i've also taken the lead in washington over the years on this issue of ensuring people who are coming out of prison the opportunity to get their lives back on track. why? because it's good for everybody. certainly it's good for them, achieving their god-given purpose in life. it's good for the community because you reduce crime. it's good for the taxpayer because right now more than half of those people are in a revolving door. they're back out of the prison system within two or three years, they're back into the prison system again. and i authored what's called the second chance act. to give people the opportunity to get the jobs skills they need, to get the drug treatment they need, to get the mental health help that they need. to be able to get a job, become productive citizens. there are some great examples of that here in northeast ohio. northeast ohio has taken full advantage of the second chance act. over $2 million has gone into grants in just the last few years.

tonight in the audience is brandon, he runs edwin's, incredible story. it's a restaurant, but it's much more than that. everybody who works there is someone who has come out of the prison system. returning citizens and a lot of them have faced tough times. he teaches them a skill, over six months, which is a culinary skill, but also how to work and show up on time. how to apply for a job. his placement rate is about 95%. i brought him to washington, d.c., and had him serve lunch to all of the republican senators, along with one of his colleagues, just to show off what he's doing. we need more second chance act. danita: we ask that the audience refrain from applause. governor strictland, you have 30 seconds. mr. strickland: i worked in maximum security prison as a psychologist for over 10 years. i've seen the results of the criminal justice system that is broken. we're sending too many people to jail for too long a period of time. and when they get out, they're in a situation where they can't

earn a living because of their records. we need to change things fundamentally. karen: final question is to you, senator portman. you're on record calling for the repeal of the affordable care act, also known as obamacare. in 2013 you co-sponsored a bill with your senate colleague and former republican presidential candidate ted cruz, that would defund obamacare. the a.c.a. has some components that americans have said they like. do you still believe obamacare should be repealed and if so, with what specifically will you replace it? mr. portman: i've never said repeal without replace. the liberal democratic governor of minnesota just said the

affordable care act is anything but affordable. this is just in the last week. bill clinton just said in the last week, it's crazy. it's not working for middle class families. ted strickland supports it strongly. in fact, he's said the wonderful. he said, obamacare is something we should celebrate. well, a 91% increase, that's the average increase for families in ohio. the individual market in ohio. that's a $200 a month increase just since obamacare went into effect. think about that. think of all the small businesses that now are struggling to provide health care because the costs have skyrocketed. the exchanges aren't working. insurance companies are leaving. there are many counties now, 30% in america, in ohio, there's only one insurance company. no competition. this is not working for ohio families. people tell me, a woman named joanne recently wrote from me saying, i've got health care but i don't have health care because now my deductible is so high, it's like i don't even have health care. because it's $6,000. out of pocket. before anything kicks in. this is not working for anybody. it has to be replaced. i think both candidates, know that. we have to know that. it's not working for ohio. we have to replace it with something that is patient-centered, that gets more

competition into the system, that gives people more choice, that does keep some of the good part of the affordable care act, the best part i think is that pre-existing conditions. if you have a pre-existing condition you can't be denied health care coverage. you can do that without throwing the health care system upside down as the affordable care act has done. mr. strickland: i celebrate the fact that over 800,000 ohioans have insurance coverage through obamacare. i celebrate that. i suppose it's easy for someone like you who gets subsidized, government subsidized health care, to talk in such a cavalier, casual manner about people who before obamacare had no access to health care. that's not a perfect bill. but it's a good bill. it's one that we ought to fix and improve, but we ought to keep. what the senator is suggesting, if you repeal it, you allow insurance companies once again to charge women more than men for health care, you allow insurance companies to say if you've got a pre-existing condition, we're not going to insure you.

that's a big problem. we need to improve it, we can do that, but the senator has voted to repeal it. and i've never seen any kind of replacement as a part of any vote that he's ever cast. so it's a good thing. i'm so proud of governor john kasich for having the wisdom to expand medicare coverage, only possible because of obamacare. you couldn't expand medicare coverage without obamacare. so i'm very excited about the fact that we are moving toward a time in america where fewer people have to worry about whether or not their kids have access to care, whether or not they'll have care if they have a pre-existing condition, and so i support obamacare. a big difference between the two of us. mr. portman: i can't believe that governor strictland continues to support obamacare. this is not working.

absolutely you can cover people with medicaid without having the affordable care act. by the way, 3/4 of the people he's talking about who get coverage, the medicaid. it's not the exchanges. we just found out that in ohio, there's going to be a 13% increase for people in the exchanges next year. one year, 13% increase. no one can afford that. i talked about the middle class earlier, the fact that wages are flat and expenses are up. you know what the biggest expense is for most families in ohio? health care. danita: we want to remind you that you are tuned to ohio counts. a debate between rob portman and ted strickland. we are coming to you live. we are now going to transition to the second part of our debate where we take questions from the audience. these questions are submitted by

audience members and vetted by the city club and the media partners to avoid duplication. they had not been shared with the candidates. and if you are following us on twitter tonight, we will be taking one question via twitter at #cityclub. #cityclub. so you can compete tweet your question. right now we're going to go to our first audience question. welcome. questioner: good evening. my question is on foreign policy. with isis currently losing significant territory in iraq, what do each of you see as potential solutions to help with the long-term dismantling of fundamentalist teachings that have led to the creation of isis? mr. strickland: thank you for that question. as i said earlier, syria's a very complicated, complex problem. there are factions in syria, multiple factions, religious and national factions, russia is complicating the situation certainly.

first thing we should do, and i'm glad that it looks as if we're moving into mosul and we will rid isis of iraq and the effective territory they may hold. so then we'll have to focus on syria, where isis will make their final holdout, i believe. we've got to work with our partners in the area, we've got to expect them to do more, we've got to expect saudi arabia and others to help us more than they are helping us. we've got to continue to use our air power effectively. i support the use of drones to take out isis leadership. but the final solution cannot be one that america imposes. we have been at war for going on 15 years in that part of the world. we've sacrificed our wealth and the blood of our sons and daughters. and so the last thing we should do is involve ourselves in another ground war over there.

and so we need to improve intelligence, we need to share intelligence, we need to expect more out of our partners, we need to stand up to russia, and -- sorry. i ran out of time. mr. portman: i think your question was about isis, not syria. i think we're not doing enough. i think we ought to do three things much more effectively. one is go after them where they are. and i think the fact that we have pulled back in terms of our role in syria has given isis more breathing room. i think we need to be more aggressive in terms of using u.s. air power against isis. both in iraq and in syria. but they've spread to 20 other countries. the not going to be effective just to do that. we have to do a better job protecting our own country. as you know, a lot of foreign fighters are expected now to go back home. there was a warning issued day before yesterday by the european security officials saying that as mosul falls, which i believe

it will at some point, a lot of foreign fighters are going to go back to europe. a lot of those european countries have a visa waiver program with us. where they can come back to the united states also without going through the normal procedure you would have to go for a visa. there are also foreign fighters from the united states, we don't know how many, but probably in the hundreds. so we need to do a better job of screening those who are coming back into our country. we need to do a much better job of dealing with homegrown terrorism. including those who are isis-inspired. like san bernardino. the tragedy that occurred in orlando. and this i think is the most difficult and perhaps the most important part of this. number one, we need to work better with the muslim community here in this country. better cooperation. working together to solve this problem. because the vast majority of muslims in this country want to solve this problem. there is but only one example in

ohio, it was the first one in the country, of a foreign fight who are came back and was arrested on terrorist charges. that was because the muslim community worked with us. danita: your time is up. we have to give governor strickland 30 seconds to respond. mr. strickland: i met with some muslim citizens recently. i heard tragic stories of how they feel as a result of what donald trump and some of his supporters are saying and doing. i talked with two sisters who said they went to the mosque to pray and they said, we were wondering whether or not we both should be there because if something happened to us, there would be no one left to care for our 92-year-old mother. that's the tragic situation that results from people like donald trump and their language. danita: we now go back to the audience for another he question. senator portman, you'll get this question. questioner: good evening. my question's about climate change. which is a real and present

threat to the people, wildlife and ecosystems here in ohio. public health agencies are preparing for more heat-related deaths and new insect-borne diseases, water infrastructure agencies are expecting damage for more and intense rain storms and flooding, experts are concerned about water levels and algal blooms in our great lake erie, and increased smog during heat waves as well. our native species might not be able to adapt. the national audibon society has found that half of all the north american bird species are at risk for climate change. what are your plans to protect the people, wildlife and natural areas of ohio from the current and potential threats of a changing climate? mr. portman: thank you for the question. as you know, i've taken the lead on this issue of energy efficiency, crafted legislation with my partner from new hampshire. we have two bills signed into law by the president. we have a third bill. the combination of the bills would be the equivalent of taking 20 million cars off the road in 15 years. what's important to me is it also creates jobs about.

200,000 additional jobs, so it's a way to do two thing. one, deal with the carbon emissions and help to create a cleaner environment. but second, to do so in a way that creates more economic growth and opportunity. i think both are important. i think they can be complimentary. that's a good example of it. i'm also the author of the tropical force conservation act which has saved 86 million acres of tropical forests around the world. not by losing any jobs here in ohio. but by instead actually helping those countries to be able to do debt to nature swaps they call them with u.s. debt. that's been a huge savings because it's viewed as the third or fourth largest cause of carbon emissions, is the burning of these tropical forests. so i use these of examples i've done. being an vice president voice for ohio, getting things done, working across the aisle and making a concrete difference in both of those cases in terms of emissions and in both of those cases, not hurting ohio jobs. there's another approach to this.

it supports the ted strickland takingest. didn't used to take it. he did move to washington, he joined up with a group there, a lobbying group, he was their chief lobbyists and that group took on our ohio interest, energy interests, coal interests, natural gas interests, and put in place and supported overregulation that makes it impossible to create jobs in ohio. for some reason there was a poll showing him -- \[inaudible] karen: your time is up. thank you. governor strictland. mr. strickland: there's only one of the two of us standing before this audience that's ever been a registered lobbyists and that's you, senator. your first job as a lobbyist was with the chinese-based firm. you were a registered foreign agent and your client was haiti, at a time when the baby doc, who was a despot, was killing people. i believe in science. thank you for the question. i believe in science. science tells us that our climate is changing. and science tells us that our

climate is changing in large part because of human activity. and i believe that and i accept it. my opponent does not. he concurs that the science is changing but he's been unwilling to say that human activity is significantly involved in climate change. you mentioned lake erie. obviously lake erie is being affected by climate change. that's why i support the president's clean power plan. senator portman opposes president obama's clean power plan. i, as governor, passed an energy bill that had efficiency standards and renewable standards and we were seeing major investments being made in ohio in wind and solar. and so i have taken action on this issue. senator portman opposes the most significant thing that can be done to improve our climate in this country and that's to support the president's clean power plan. he refuses to do so.

he can talk about the forests somewhere else. but when it comes to what's important here in this country, he's on the wrong side. karen: senator portman. mr. portman: a lot of false claims there that we don't have time to go through. you must be desperate, governor. let me just say this about lake erie. because you mentioned it. i've been proud to take the lead there. i'm co-chair of the lake erie caucus and i've taken the lead on addressing these algal blooms, but also get rid of the microbeads that are in lake erie. one of the huge problems here. cleveland, this area particularly. my legislation actually requires companies to phase out microbeads altogether. again, i worked with democrats and republicans alike, brought environmentalists in. we solved a big problem. karen: thank you. let's go now to our next audience question. welcome. questioner: my name is nancy. my question is about guns. would you explain how your stance regarding gun violence and gun registration -- regulation has either solidified

or evolved in the past few years? danita: governor strickland, we'll start with you. mr. strickland: thank you for the question. my position has changed or evolved over the last several years. people ask me why. i say, well, i've got eyes and ears. i've got a head and a heart. and i see what's happening in our country and in our communities. 33,000 americans lose their lives to gun violence each year. about 2/3 of those as a result of suicide. we can't solve the entire problem and i do believe and support the second amendment, always have and always will. but i also believe that we can have commonsense solutions to this very difficult problem. so here's what i support. i support comprehensive background checks for gun sales. including internet sales and gun show sales.

that makes sense. most gun owners support that as well. in fact, the n.r.a. used to support background checks. i also support keeping those who are suspected of terrorism from being able to go into a gun store and buy a semi-automatic weapon. senator portman on the other hand voted against a bipartisan bill put forth by a republican senate colleague that would have stopped terrorist from having access to guns. danita: you can respond. mr. portman: in this campaign, governor strickland bragged about his a-plus rating with the n.r.a. not years ago, in this campaign. he said he has a mixed and spotty record on this issue and he can be criticized for it. those are his words, not mine. i don't know where he is on this issue. i will tell where you i am, which is i do support the second amendment. i also support tightening up background checks.

in particular to get mental health records into the background checks. i also do support someone who is on a no-fly list not being able to get a gun. but we need to be sure people are properly on the no-fly list. the famous example is that ted kennedy was on the no-fly list. and the legislation that i supported actually got the most votes, it was a bipartisan bill, to be able to solve that problem. i think it got 56 or 57 vote out of 60. this is one of the thing that, again, working together we should be able to solve. the n.r.a. did not support that particular bill. but i did support it. i think that's one that, again, regards to who wins this election, regards to who wins the majority, we should figure out a way to come together because i think there's a consensus about this. if you're tonight in-fly list, you shouldn't be able to get a gun. these are important issues. and these are issues that we have to address. we have to address the deeper issue of gun violence. when i talk to police officers here in cleveland about the gun violence in this city, they say it's related to gangs and drugs.

another reason for us to get at this heroin-prescription drug issue and other drug issues. mr. strickland: i'll try to maintain my 30 seconds. fact is, a bill was put forth. it was written by republican senator collins of maine and it would have prevented people who were on the terrorist suspect watch list from buying guns. the world was watching. the country was watching. senator portman voted no. he has sold his soul to the n.r.a. and that's why they have spent nearly $2 million trying to defeat me in this senate race. and i'm proud of their opposition. danita: thank you. unfortunately we're already on our last audience question. karen: this one comes from twitter. let's hear it. questioner: good evening. this question is from twitter. and from cindy and focuses on education. testing students' i.d. problems but takes away from teaching time. what changes would you make?

mr. portman: it's a great question. for teachers out there who are listening, they all feel this way. maybe some a little more strongly than others. but they don't want to teach the tests. they want to teach students. so i support legislation called the every child succeeds act. it was bipartisan legislation. it was worked on with republicans and democrats alike. it actually passed the united states senate a couple months ago. the president signed it into law. it did change the law. so that there aren't as many students who are being focused on the tests, not actual learning. i think that's important. i also think it's important to support our students all the way through the process. so i support allowing students who are in high school to be able to get college credit and to be able to get pell grants. i have legislation to do that. marcia fudge and i have introduced that legislation together. she introduced it in the house, i introduced it in senate. it's called early college, early high school legislation. i've also supported legislation

to ensure that when someone gets out of college and they have a big student debt, which unfortunately in ohio a lot of students do, $28,000 is the average, that they should be able to consolidate and refinance that student debt. it's called the repay act. it has an interesting provision that, for students, they could opt never to have to pay more than 15% of their income in interest on their debt. which i think would be a terrific thing for students and our economy. karen: governor strictland. mr. strickland: i don't know if it's the lighting in here or my perspective. but your nose seems to be growing. the fact is you have consistently opposed allowing ohio students to refinance their student debt at a lower interest rate. that's his record. that's his record. read the repay act. let me say this about the question. we need to respect teachers. we need to allow teachers to help us formulate the approach that we take when we try to educate our kids.

for far too long we've tried to adopt a corporate business model for our schools. we treat our children as if they're some -- these wedges. every child is individual, every child is different, every child has a different method of learning and needs to be valued as an individual student. this testing is maddening, it's counterproductive, and it's harmful and it takes away from a good educational experience. education should be enjoyable and it should be adequately funded and we, as i said, we need to put professional educators in charge of education. and what we've done is allow politicians at the federal level to dictate too much of our education policy.

karen: senator portman, you have 30 seconds. mr. portman: the bitter partisan attacks over here and the falsehoods, you know, he needs to look at the repay act. because it's good legislation. it's bipartisan legislation. it allows students in ohio to be able to pay less in student loans. that to me is very good for them. the also good for our economy, so they can buy a car, get a house, get out of the parents' basement. i think the great legislation. it's the kind of thing that i focus on in washington as an independent voice for ohio. i know it frustrates him because i got a lot done. when he was in the united states congress for 12 years, i mentioned i got 45 bills done. he got zero done. danita: we have come to the point in this debate for our closing remarks. by prior agreement, the candidates will follow the same order as the opening remarks and we want to let you know, candidates, you have 90 seconds. 90 seconds for your closing remarks. and we're going to begin with senator portman. mr. portman: great, thank you. appreciate you guys tonight and the city club. you've seen a real contrast here tonight.

you've seen ted strickland talk about, again, bitter partisan attacks. he doesn't want to talk about his record. i don't blame, if i had his record i wouldn't want to talk about it either. the cleveland dealer said when they endorsed me, he has no road map for the future. that's true. on the other hand i talked tonight about my independent voice for ohio. my approach and working across the aisle to get stuff done that helps ohio families and helps ohio workers. i'm proud of that. what i do is i go to washington, d.c., to represent you in the united states senate, taking with me the ohio values that i learned growing up. when i was a kid i was living here in cleveland, ohio, my dad had a job as a salesman. he decided to give it all up and take a big risk. he took us back to cincinnati, ohio, which was his hometown, to follow his dream. and that was to start a small bill. -- small business. he gave up his health care and his commission. mortgaged the house. couldn't get enough money to start the business because the bank wouldn't give him any money. his family didn't have any

money. had to go to my mom's uncle to get a loan to start the business. it was five people, five other guys, my mom was the book keeper. they lost money the first few years. but they persevered through hard work, sacrifice and an ethical approach to business. eventually finding their niche. i worked there, my brother worked there, my sister worked there. i ground the rust off lift trucks, prepared them for painting. i swept the shop floor, built a paint booth. recently i ran into a guy i've known almost my whole life. he was a lift truck mechanic at the company. danita: senator portman, need to wrap it up. sorry. governor strictland, 90 seconds for closing remarks. running out of time. mr. strickland: thank you. i want to talk to the people of ohio. there's a choice in this senate race between rob portman, born with a silver spoon in his mouth, and has spent his political life looking out for people like him. the wealthy, the well connected, the washington insiders and the wall street bankers. i've got a different story. i've spent my life fighting for working people.

so that's why i oppose nafta, voted for it. that's why i supported the auto rescue. he opposed it. that's why i oppose raising the retirement age and privatizing social security and voucherizing medicare. he wants to raise the retirement age. he voted to voucherize your medicare and he wants to privatize your social security. in terms of working people, he's opposed to raising the minimum wage. he voted to strip overtime pay from $6 million of you, $6 million americans, lost overtime pay because of this man. so i'm fighting for you. i believe in working people. i think you need a break. and senator rob portman represents everything that you don't like. he's the ultimate insider and he's taking care of those who are already well to do and want to take care of regular, working ohioans. people who actually work for a living. thank you so much. danita: we're going to ask the audience to refrain from any

noises, any sounds. we've been good so far. let's close out on a positive note. you have been tuned in to ohio counts, race for the senate. a debate between rob portman and ted strickland. partners include news 5234 cleveland and wpo cincinnati 9 on your side, along with pbs. i'd like to thank both candidates for participating in this debate tonight and a big thank you to our studio and twitter audience for their thoughtful questions. karen: for my colleague, danita harris, from news 5 here in cleveland, i'm karen from ohio public radio and television. thank you fortuning in and good night from cleveland. [applause] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016]

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>> hillary clinton and donald trump spoke in new york city last night at the al smith charity dinner. donald trump tweeting the results are in, i -- it is almost unanimous, i won, thank you, these are exciting times. hillary clinton wrote where was this kind of click -- comedy last night? al smith dinner is a annual white tie fundraiser for catholic charities supporting underprivileged children. it ran about one hour.

al: ladies and gentlemen, your kind attention. please welcome back to the podium. al: i am back. a couple of shutouts. i want to thank you for making this dinner possible, great job. a shutout to [indiscernible] he has been here 37 years and he keeps the trains on time. thank you.

before we go on, i would like to recognize several things area -- several dignitaries in the room. governor cuomo is here tonight. [applause] al: at last night's debate, he gave an idea. he wants staff to start calling tough hombre. mayor deblasio is here tonight. [applause] al: we would like to apologize because i could not grant your request to sit to the left of everybody. he got here on time.

[laughter] al chuck schumer is here. : you may not know this, but chuck is running for his fourth term. chuck has a favor to ask. can someone tell him who his opponent is? we have the senator here. -- senator gillibrand. it must be nice to see two new yorkers vying for the highest office in the land. it just goes to show you that if you were born into immense wealth or your husband was president, you can accomplish anything. [laughter] [applause] al: rudy giuliani is here. [laughter]

[applause] al mr. mayor, do not worry. : we aimed at the light just right to make sure you will be in donald trump's shadow all night. governor christie was supposed to be here but he got stuck in bridge traffic. [laughter] al: it is always nice to be with my friend, the cardinal. -- cardinal dolan. [applause] al: in this difficult time for our nation we should think about questions of faith. cardinal dolan asks us all, how can one fully understand the spirit? what does a salvation really mean? and, are you going to finish that? [laughter]

al: i mean this sincerely. everyone in attendance is doing their part to support our efforts. it cannot be done without you or without the amazing support of the many devoted catholics in our state. catholics like henry kissinger. mort zuckerman. [applause] al: before we turn this over to our speakers i want to address the elephant in the room. i was talking to cardinal dolan -- no, that was not the plan. bear with me. i wish i had thought of that, but that does happen to fall in there. earlier about the wikileaks e-mails that says certain

members of the clinton campaign wanted to incite a revolution in the catholic church. i was pretty concerned. we had a very constructive conversation with the clinton campaign and cardinal dolan said, if they have not destroyed the church in the last 2000 years, then they don't stand a chance. [laughter] [applause] al: of course, the donald got into a public conversation with the pope. it should be easy to mend that relationship. because the donald and pope francis have so much in common. they lead lives of humility.

so the -- for this evening, all is forgiven. it is now my privilege to introduce this evening's speakers. we determined tonight's order backstage. i'm happy to report that no matter how the coin toss ended, our next speaker will say it was rigged. [laughter] [applause] al: i was thinking of course about the republican nominee, donald j. trump. [applause] al: there are actually some rumors going around that he was not going to show up tonight. you could say he wanted to keep us in suspense. we considered having a donald trump cut out on the dais, but

if we wanted someone still and lifeless we get asked charlie rose to speak again. it is historic the donald is here tonight. for the first time, the catholic church is not the largest tax-exempt landowner here tonight. [laughter] [applause] al: we are honored to have donald and melania here tonight. this is a new york institution. donald, they kid from queens with a big heart and a big -- -- a big mouth, it is an institution.

donald the microphone is yours, , and it is working. [laughter] [applause] mr. trump: thank you, that was good. this is a hell of a dinner. i want to thank your eminence. and governor cuomo. hi, chuck. he used to love me when i was a democrat. [laughter] mr. trump: mayor deblasio. in the old days i would have known and well. and i want to thank you for the fund-raising.

congratulations on your record. $16. and a special hello to all of you in this room who have known and loved me for many, many years. it's true. the politicians have introduced -- have had me to their homes, they have introduced me to their children, i have become their best friends in many instances. they asked for my endorsement and always wanted my money. and even called me a dear, dear friend. then suddenly, decided when i ran for president that i had always been a no good, rotten, disgusting scandal.

and they totally forgot about me. you always start out with a self-deprecating joke. some think that would be tough for me. but the truth is -- [applause] mr. trump: the truth is, i am actually a very modest person. in fact, many people tell me that modesty is perhaps my best quality. even better than my temperament. cardinal dolan and i have some things in common, we both run impressive properties on fifth avenue. his is much more impressive than mine.

that is because i build mine with my own, beautifully formed hands. [laughter] [applause] mr. trump: while his was built with the hands of god, and nobody can compete with god, is that correct? nobody, right? [applause] mr. trump: that's right. no contest. it's great to be here with a thousand wonderful people, or as i call it, a small, intimate dinner with some friends. or as hillary calls it, her largest crowd of the season. [laughter] [applause] mr. trump: this is corny stuff. [laughter] mr. trump: i do recognize that i come into this event with a little bit of an advantage. i know that so many of you in

the archdiocese already have a place in your heart. for a guy who started out as a carpenter working for his father. i was a carpenter working for my father. [laughter] [applause] mr. trump: it's true. not for a long period of time, but about three weeks. [laughter] what's great about the al smith dinner is that even in the rough and tumble world of a really hard-fought campaign -- in fact, i don't know if you know, hillary, but last night they said that was the most vicious debate in the history of politics, presidential debate. the most vicious. are we supposed to be proud of that? but they did say that, and i am trying to think back to lincoln. i don't know if they can really speak to that. but the candidates have some lighthearted moments together,

which is true. i have no doubt that hillary is going to laugh quite a bit tonight. sometimes even at an appropriate moment. [laughter] [applause] mr. trump: and even tonight, with all of the heated back-and-forth between my opponent and me at the debate last night, we have proven that we can actually be civil to each other. in fact, just before taking the dais, hillary accidentally bumped into me, and she very civilly said, "pardon me." [laughter] [applause]

mr. trump: and i very politely replied, "let me talk to you about that after i get into office." [laughter] mr. trump: just kidding, just kidding. and hillary was very gracious. she said that somehow if she gets elected, she wants me to be, without question, either her ambassador to iraq or to afghanistan. [laughter] mr. trump: it's my choice. [applause] mr. trump: but one of the things i noticed tonight, and i've known hillary for a long time, is this is the first time ever that hillary clinton is sitting down and speaking to major corporate leaders and not

getting paid for it. [laughter] [applause] mr. trump: it's true. you know, last night, i called hillary a nasty woman. but this stuff is all relative. after listening to hillary rattle on and on and on, i don't think so badly of rosie o'donnell anymore. [laughter] mr. trump: in fact, i am actually starting to like rosie a lot. [laughter] [applause] mr. trump: these events gave not only the candidates chance to be with each other in a very social setting, it also allows the candidates the opportunity to meet the other candidate's team.

a good team. i know hillary met my campaign manager, and i got a chance to meet the people who are working so hard to get her elected. there they are, the heads of nbc -- [laughter] mr. trump: cnn, cbs, abc. there is "the new york times" right over there, and "the washington post." they are working overtime. [laughter] [applause] mr. trump: this one is going to get me in trouble. not with hillary. you know, the president told me to stop whining, but i really have to say, the media is even more biased this year than ever before. you want the proof? michelle obama gives a speech,

and everyone loves it. it's fantastic. they think she is absolutely great. my wife, melania, gives the exact same speech. [laughter] [applause] mr. trump: and people get on her mr. trump: and people get on her case. and i don't get it. i don't know why. [applause] mr. trump: and it was not her fault. stand up, melania. she took a lot of abuse. [cheers and applause] mr. trump: oh, i'm in trouble when i go home tonight. she did not know about that one. am i ok? is that ok? cardinal, please speak to her. [laughter] mr. trump: i'd like to address

an important religious matter, the issue of going to confession. or, as hillary calls it, the fourth of july weekend with fbi director comey. [laughter] mr. trump: i am told hillary went to confession before tonight's event, but the priest was having a hard time when he asked her about her sins and she said she could not remember 39 times. [laughter] mr. trump: hillary is so corrupt, she got kicked off the watergate commission. [boos] mr. trump: how corrupt the you have to be to get kicked off the watergate commission? pretty corrupt. hillary is and has been in politics since the 1970's.

what is her pitch? the economy is busted, the government is corrupt, washington is failing. vote for me. i have been working on these problems for 30 years. i can fix it, she says. i was not really sure if hillary was going to be here tonight, because, i guess, you did not send her an invitation by e-mail, or maybe you did and she just found out about it through the wonder of wikileaks. we have learned so much from wikileaks. for example, hillary clinton believes it is vital to deceive the people by having one public policy -- [boos] mr. trump: and it is only different policy in private. that's ok. i don't know who they are angry

at, hillary, you or i. here she is tonight in public, pretending not to hate catholics. [boos] mr. trump: now, if some of you have not noticed, hillary is not laughing as much as the rest of us. that's because she knows the jokes. all of the jokes were given to her in advance of the dinner by donna brazile -- [boos] mr. trump: everyone knows, of course, hillary has believed that it takes a village, which only makes sense, after all, in places like haiti, where she has taken a number of them. [boos] >> [indiscernible] mr. trump: thank you.

i won't go this evening without saying something nice about my opponent. hillary has been in washington a long time. she knows a lot about how government works. and according to her sworn testimony, hillary has forgotten more things than most of us will ever, ever know, that i can tell you. [boos] [applause] mr. trump: we are having some fun here tonight, and that's good. on a personal note, what an amazing honor it is to be with all of you. i want to congratulate hillary on getting the nomination, and over the next 19 days, someone will be chosen. we will see what happens. but i have great memories of coming to this dinner with my father over the years when i was a young man. great experience for me. this was always a special

experience for him and me to be together. one thing we can all agree on is the need to support the great work that comes out of the dinner. millions of dollars have been raised to support disadvantaged children. and i applaud the many people who have worked to make this wonderful event a critical lifeline for children in need. [applause] mr. trump: and that we together broke the all-time record tonight is really something special. more than $6 million. the cardinal told me that is net, net. we can also agree on the need to stand up to anti-catholic bias, to defend religious liberty, and to create a culture that celebrates life. america is in many ways divided. [applause] mr. trump: thank you. america is in many ways divided

like it has never been before. and the great religious leaders here tonight give us all an example that we can follow. we are living in a time and age that we never thought possible before. the vicious barbarism we read about in history books, but never thought we would see it in our so-called modern day world. who would have thought we would be witnessing what we are witnessing today? we have got to be very strong, very, very smart, and we've got to come together not only as a nation, but as a world community. thank you very much. god bless you, and god bless america. thank you. [applause]

al: as ronald reagan would say, "there you go again." [laughter] al: thank you very much, donald. we are honored by your presence. this dinner is a fundraiser for the needy children of the archdiocese. i am pleased to announce that tonight we have raised $6 million. [applause] al: let me put that in perspective for you. that would pay for nearly five minutes of our next speaker's speech. [laughter] al: hillary is a democratic nominee for president. but it was not exactly a smooth ride for her. she endured a tough primary challenge from that young centrist upstart bernie sanders. [laughter]

al: she endured questions about her health. madam secretary, i can't believe all these people said it was not presidential to catch pneumonia. just look at william henry harrison. [laughter] al: and she said that she later had to take back. for example, hillary really did not mean it when she called half of donald supporters a basket of deplorables. to be fair, donald did not really mean it when he said he would release his tax returns, either. [laughter] al: the secretary's career in public service has been admirable. she has devoted her life to public service in arkansas, washington, and new york. she has been a tireless advocate for children, and her being here tonight is an example of that.

ladies and gentlemen, please welcome secretary hillary rodham clinton. [cheers and applause] ms. clinton: thank you. thank you. [applause] ms. clinton: thank you. thank you. your eminence, your excellencies, members of the clergy, al and dan smith, donald and melania, and all the distinguished guests. earlier tonight, al reminded me that when the first al smith ran for president he chose the progressive senator from arkansas, joseph g robinson, who is one of my husband's political

heroes. this work that you do through the dinner, al, you have done it now for 30 years, is such a labor of love. you have been a hero for both the children of the archdiocese and for the city of new york, and i think we all owe al smith a great round of applause. [applause] ms. clinton: this is such a special event that i took a break from my rigorous nap scheduled to be here. [laughter] ms. clinton: and as you have already heard, it is a treat for all of you too, because usually i charge a lot for speeches like this. [laughter] ms. clinton: but for me, it was kind of ironic thinking about a fiery populist, al smith.

if he were here today and saw how much money we had raised, he would be very proud. [applause] ms. clinton: and if he saw this magnificent room full of plutocrats celebrating his legacy, he would be very confused. [laughter] ms. clinton: it is a special honor to be here with your eminence. i know you were criticized for inviting both donald and me here tonight. you responded by saying, if i only sat down with those who are saints, i would be taking all my meals alone. now, just to be clear, i think the cardinal is saying i'm not eligible for sainthood. but getting through these three debates with donald has to count as a miracle.

[laughter] [applause] how did you get the governor and mayor here together? now i've got to say that there are a lot of friendly faces here in this room. privileged tobeen know and to work with. i want to put you in a basket of

adorable's. and you looked so good in your tuxes or as i refer to them, formal pantsuits. and because this is a friendly timer, donald, if at any you are offended by anything i say, you can stand up and shout wrong while i am talking. it is amazing him appear after donald. be oknot think he would with a peaceful transition of power. and, donald, after listening to your speech, i will also enjoy listening to mike pence deny that you ever gave it. you know, i've had the privilege of being at the al smith dinners in years past and i always enjoy it. but, remember, if you're not happy with the way it comes out,

it must be rigged. and it's always a special treat for me to be back in new york; a city that i love and which i think truly embodies the best of america. you know -- don't you think? people look at the statue of liberty and they see a proud symbol of our history as a nation of immigrants, a beacon of hope for people around the world. donald looks at the statue of liberty and sees a "four." maybe a "five" if she loses the torch and tablet and changes her hair. you know, come to think of it, you know what would be a good number for a woman? forty-five.

but i digress. now, i'm going to try my best tonight, but i understand i am not known for my sense of humor. that's why it did take a village to write these jokes. people say -- and i hear them, i know -- they say i'm boring compared to donald. but i'm not boring at all. in fact, i'm the life of every party i attend and i've been to three. and when the parties get out of hand, as occasionally they do, it's important to have a responsible chaperone who can get everyone home safely. and that is why i picked tim kaine to be my vice president. now, you notice there is no teleprompter here tonight, which is probably smart, because maybe you saw donald dismantle his prompter the other day. and i get that.

they're hard to keep up with, and i'm sure it's even harder when you're translating from the original russian. but every year, this dinner brings together a collection of sensible, committed, mainstream republicans -- or, as we now like to call them -- hillary supporters. now, some of my critics -- and i hear that too - >> yeah. mrs. clinton: yeah. they think i only say what people want to hear. well, tonight, that is true. and here's exactly what you want to hear -- this election will be over very, very soon. and look at this dais -- we've got charlie rose, and maria bartiromo, and chris matthews,

and gayle king, and nora o'donnell, and katie couric -- this counts as a press conference, right? it is great, also, to see mayor bloomberg here. it's a shame he's not speaking tonight. i'm curious to hear what a billionaire has to say. and look who else is at the dais -- we've got the honorable chuck schumer, the honorable andrew cuomo, the honorable mike bloomberg, the honorable bill deblasio, the honorable dave

dinkins, and so many other wonderful elected officials. and we have rudy giuliani. now, many don't know this, but rudy actually got his start as a prosecutor going after wealthy new yorkers who avoided paying taxes. but, as the saying goes, "if you can't beat them, go on fox news and call them a genius." so as i've said, we've now had our third and, thankfully, final debate. sharing a stage with donald trump is like, well, nothing really comes to mind. there is nothing like sharing a stage with donald trump. donald wanted me drug tested before last night's debate. and look, i've got to tell you, i am so flattered that donald thought i used some sort of performance enhancer. now, actually, i did. it's called preparation.

and looking back, i've had to listen to donald for three full debates. and he says i don't have any stamina. that is four and a half hours. i have now stood next to donald trump longer than any of his campaign managers. now, look, i have deep respect for people like kellyanne conway. she's working day and night for donald and because she's a contractor, he's probably not even going to pay her. but i think the good news is that the debates finally allowed republicans to unite around their candidate. the bad news is, it's mike pence. and it's been a long, long campaign. that should be one of our highest priorities, shortening the campaigns. and whoever wins this election,

the outcome will be historic. we'll either have the first female president or the first president who started a twitter war with cher. and if donald does win, it will be awkward at the annual president's day photo, when all the former presidents gather at the white house, and not just with bill. how is barack going to get past the muslim ban? now, republicans in particular seem frustrated with their nominee. paul ryan told the republican members of the house, you -- you don't have to support the top of the ticket. don't worry about anyone besides yourself. just do what's in your own best interests. so i guess donald really has unified his party around his core philosophy. and i don't understand their unhappiness. they say donald doesn't have any

policies. he has no policies. i keep hearing that. i'd actually like to defend him on this. donald has issues, serious issues. really, really serious issues. and i worry about donald's go it alone attitude. for example, at his convention, when he said i alone can fix it, you know, in the '90s, i said the same thing about america's health care system and it didn't work out so well for me, either. but speaking of health, donald has been very concerned about mine, very concerned. he actually sent a car to bring me here tonight. actually, it was a hearse. but i -- but i kind of want to just put the information out there, so everybody can draw their own conclusions and you can judge our relative health. we've each released our medical records. my blood pressure is 100/70. his is unbelievably great. my cholesterol is 189, his is

presidential. my heart rate is 72 beats per minute, his is the most beats ever, or the least beats ever, whichever sounds best. but donald really is as healthy as a horse, you know, the one vladimir putin rides around on. but -- but i can say without fear of contradiction tonight, that i will be the healthiest and youngest woman ever to serve as president. but this has really been a strange campaign. you saw it last night. you saw it again tonight. donald has attacked me for a life in public service and i didn't get that at first. i kind of get it now. as he told howard stern, he doesn't like it when women have been around for more than 35 years.

but donald, we have so much more in common than, actually, you may realize. for example, i tried to inspire young people by showing them that with resilience and hard work anything is possible and you're doing the same. a third grade teacher told me that one of her students refused to turn in his homework because it was under audit. and here's another similarity. the republican national committee isn't spending a dime to help either one of us. so tonight, let's embrace the spirit of the evening. let's come together. remember what unites us and just rip on ted cruz. i hope you enjoyed my remarks tonight. i said no to some jokes that i thought were over the line. but i suppose you can judge for yourself on wikileaks in the next few days. donald will tell us after the benediction whether he accepts

that this dinner is over. he has to wait and see. but there's nothing funny about the stakes in this election. in the end what makes this dinner important are not the jokes we tell but the legacy that we carry forward. it is often easy to forget how far this country has come. and there are a lot of people in this room tonight who themselves, or their parents or grandparents, came here as immigrants, made a life for yourselves, took advantage of the american dream and the greatest system that has ever been created in the history of the world to unleash the individual talents and energy and ambition of everyone willing to work hard. and when i think about what al smith went through it's important to just reflect how groundbreaking it was for him, a catholic, to be my party's

nominee for president. don't forget - school boards sent home letters with children saying that if al smith is elected president you will not be allowed to have or read a bible. voters were told that he would annul protestant marriages. and i saw a story recently that said people even claimed the holland tunnel was a secret passageway to connect rome and america, to help the pope rule our country. those appeals, appeals to fear and division, can cause us to treat each other as the other. rhetoric like that makes it harder for us to see each other, to respect each other, to listen to each other. and certainly a lot harder to love our neighbor as ourselves. i believe how we treat others is the highest expression of faith

and of service. i'm not catholic. i'm a methodist, but one of the things that we share is the belief that in order to achieve salvation we need both faith and good works. and you certainly don't need to be catholic to be inspired by the humility and heart of the holy father, pope francis. or to embrace his message. his message about rejecting a mindset of hostility, his calls to reduce inequality, his warnings about climate change, his appeal that we build bridges, not walls. now as you may know, my running mate, tim, is catholic and went to jesuit schools, and one of the things he and i have talked about is this idea from the jesuits of the magis, the more,

the better. but we need to get better at finding ways to disagree on matters of policy while agreeing on questions of decency and civility. how we talk to each other, treat each other, respect each other. so i've taken this concept of magis to heart in this campaign, as best as one can in the daily heat, the back and forth of a presidential campaign, to ask how we can do more for each other, and better for each other. because i believe that for each of us, our greatest monument on this earth won't be what we build, but the lives we touch. and that is ultimately what this dinner is all about. and it's why it's been such a great honor to join you all again. thank you.

[applause] al: hillary, that was terrific. and i did see the candidates shake hands. we should nominate the cardinal for the nobel peace prize. it is my honor to present tull.al toll --

cardinal: thank you, everybody. it has been the honor of my todecessors and now mind conclude this joyful and historic evening. , we canord of gratitude give solemnly to the lord himself. pardon my congestion and coughing. i'm afraid i'm coming down with a cold which is understandable given i had a seat between our two candidates and was probably the i see us to place on the planet. where is global warming when you need it, right? name of the members of

the devoted board of the foundation that generously underwrite this endeavor and carefully distribute and account for the fruits of this great thank all of you. secretary clinton and mr. trump. leaders andd -- in public service, in health care charity, flat for the that gillespie, -- philanthropy, two other persons are here tonight. first are those thousands of city and children in this who will benefit from the proceeds of this event. i am talking about the

african-american mom in the bronx working for a scholarship to get her child in an inner-city catholic school, i'm talking to the troubled young mother needing support and encouragement to bring the tiny baby in the sanctuary of her ofb to birth, i am talking the mexican immigrant mom purging our catholic charities for help in uniting her family and obtaining citizenship, english language instruction, and job training. known of these brave women could smith a ticket to the al dinner, as it is more than anything in a month, they are grateful you could, because as of tomorrow, thanks all of you, $6 million will begin to flow out to lift them up.

and the other person who is here with us this evening, the lord. he has told us in the scripture that we jews and christians and muslims chairs that he is in the midst of any event characterized by love, care, concern, and service. his son jesus is in our midst. his bride, the church, is honored to host an event affirming the sacredness of all human life. so please stand and join me in a final prayer. you, lord, for our faith, families, and friends, our call to serve those in need. we are grateful to be citizens of one nation under god, who acclaim this evening that in god we trust. -- bless our two

candidates. guide us safely home, through crisis our lord, a mentor god bless and thank you. wow. 30 years. how about it? smith: thank you, your eminence. thank you. gentlemen, they said this could not be done. we got it done. thank you very much. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]

>> we are going to now take you live to pennsylvania with a live trump.or donald mr. trump: thank you. thank you.

thank you. usa! mr. trump: thank you, everybody. i just got caught in the rain. i am soaking wet. how does my hair look? does the look ok? -- does it look ok? they said we will get you a hairdryer, but i said, no, thanks, let's just see our friends. the of friends, we have a great guy, somebody who has represented you for a long time, congressman bill shuster. where is bill? , one up, bill.

has a thing called a debate, so i hope he does as well as i did. good luck, bill. thank you, everybody. what a crowd. this is someplace. some place. he did tell you, but i especially love the pink signs. i like the pink signs. win8 days we are going to the state of pennsylvania, and we are going to win back the white house. we are going to. i just left north carolina. you had to see the crowd the spirit something special is going on. these corners, and we have thousands of people outside. and in all fairness, when harry

comes,hat when hillary not a lot of people. not a lot of people. they are tough. they grow them talk in pennsylvania. i know. i went to school in pennsylvania. i went to school in pennsylvania. but you have to vote on november 8. so we just wasted a long time, and in my case, a lot of mine the -- money. time, energy, and money. they say it does not matter if you win or lose. it has never been done before. this crowd, us getting the nomination, going on. olls coming out that are

really fantastic. fantastic. our opponents have spent more money than ever before in the history of campaigns, raised from special interests and wall street, and yet we are leaving in the polls. rasmussen, the "l.a. times," and "investor's business daily." we are going to deliver real change that once again puts america first. got to have it. we are going to renegotiate our terrible trade deals, end, youra immigration, stop -- they were just talking --

stop the massive inflow of crime,s, reduce surging cut taxes and regulations, and repeal and replace obamacare. disaster. the place is unbelievable. thank you. thise are going to stop incredible and discussing drug flow that is pouring into our country and poisoning our youth. it is poisoning our youth, and plenty of other people, but it is poisoning our youth. we are it. it is going to be stopped. we're going to build the wall. don't worry about it.

is there any place more fun to rally? a trump i would not be a protester today at a trump rally. did you see what came out over wikileaks, and did you see working out the other day, on protesters? nobody could understand. we had these protesters coming, and they were pretty violent guys, and our people are pretty tough cookies, and it turned out that they were paid by the dnc indirectly and they where -- they were -- we had a couple in

chicago that attacked police, so those guys should be put in jail. they attacked police. affect our protesters, but they can handle themselves pretty good. they handled themselves so well that people felt sorry for the protesters. you know what? $1500 and they got a cell phone, and this all came out over the last couple days. you saw it, they think, and the guy in charge visited the white 344 times. can you believe that? times, and they blame trump for protesters, and trump for the violence, and my protesters, people that were defending themselves, got blamed, got arrested, and internet it was a whole big scam.

remember, it is a rate system. just remember, a rate system rigged system. you got to get out of vote and watch because this system is totally rigged. times, visited the white house, the guy in charge for it it is so sad. i said my people are getting too tough, and the nice that these people were all professionals a lot of money. terrible. what is going on in our country terrible, andble, obama ought to stop campaigning for crooked hillary and he ought to get out there and get your jobs back and make better trade deals and build up our military and take care of our vets instead of campaigning for hillary with his wife. back under al come

trump administration, that i can tell you. that i can tell you. including your steel, which has been decimated in this area. yourthe proud champion, steel has been decimated, and we know about the games where china is dumping all over the place, hoping steel. come back.will it will be a different ballgame, but we will no longer be the dumb people. we will be that genius people, believe me. we will be the people that understand. your incomes will go up under a truck administration. downtaxes will go way, way under a trump administration. and with hillary, your taxes are and youay out, -- up, saw that. your company's will not be leaving pennsylvania under a

trump administration. there will be consequences if they want to, consequences. they are not going to be leaving. we will bring prosperity back to johnstown. they're going to bring it back. we're going to bring it back. your community helped build this country. one of the great places on earth. the iron and steel forged in your mills formed the backbone of our nation. you were the leading steel producer of the united states. did you know that? i just met a group of folks from a remaining steel mill, and i said, can you compete with other countries, in particular china? and the woman, who is a terrific --an -- where is that woman? jackie, where are you, jackie?

she said our government makes it almost impossible for us to complete. they are still open, but you'll be competing like you have never competed before. do not worry about it, jackie. hang in, jackie. this was the town that people flock to from around the world to make their american dreams come true. surgeon. the pennsylvania railroad was the gateway to prosperity. the cambria iron company right here in johnstown is etched into the great american story, so too is its successor, bethlehem steel company. it was the heartbeat of this town. workers at the mills, at the

coal mines -- by the way, we are putting your miners back to work, clean coal, beautiful, clean coal. city,l across this fulfilled and it city desk and exceeded their obligations to our son -- country. they did their part. it lived up to their duties as americans. their duties to their families, to their communities, to their country. they fought in our wars. they pay their taxes. they powered this nation. but any return, our politicians failed you, and betrayed you. they love foreign countries to and -- to dump cheap steel shut you down. our politics failed the workers of johnston and gave your jobs to foreign companies and producers. we got the poverty. they got the factories, the

jobs, and the wealth. now more than one in three arele in this magical city living in poverty. think of it, your politicians, these are stupid people, believe me, stupid people. just like mosul. they announced they were going to attack mosul. why don't you do it and talk later? remember when we were growing up we would read about the great generals, general macarthur, general george patton, so many of our great generals. they used to have the element of surprise. now the element of surprise is obama getting up and announcing

that we are attacking. we will be attacking mosul because we think a lot of leaders of isis are living there. about two hours later all the leaders are gone. these are stupid people. median household income is only $25,000. your government betrayed you, and i am going to make it right. get out and vote. get out and vote on november 8. it is your last chance. folks, i did not need to do this.

this is work. i'm getting piled on by these dishonest people like nobody ever, like nobody ever. so i did not need to do it, and do not forget i was on the other side. i was on the other side at the highest level, but i saw what was happening and i said this is never going to work. we are going to lose our country if we keep doing what they are doing, and i came over to this site and i love this site because we created a movement has never ever been created before, and they admit that. they admit it. it, the heard me say greatest single political phenomenon in their lifetimes. that is what it is. look at this arena. if these people were honest, why don't you show the arena, folks? why didn't you show it?

why don't you show it? you notice the cameras never turn. -- thoses never turn. cameras never turn. they never ever return. all the time you go home and you want to see how was the crowd, and if hillary has 500 people, they will say she had a fantastic, -- crowd. here we have thousands.