drowning in it, in fact. the status quo was pushed aside and we set out for infrastructure reform. we ushered in a come back. because of reforms, some of which were back to the cynicism point i made earlier, after you start and paid cashoads for them, not locked it for future generations. having the economy dialed into the point that we have become a magnet, now we are outpacing the national average in terms of tech jobs. we have companies like

salesforce that are saying we hire situation where we are not doing all that do.an freestrth for yes -- state in the country. i think we should strive to be the first.

we should talk about wages being work. a lot of that has to do with not having enough jobs, companies having to compete for workers. certainly if we do away with property tax and attract more businesses, we will have more my son moved to san diego, california last year. he was in mississippi is the time. he went from being one of the richest men to be in one of the poorest man in san diego, california. he was in mississippi is the time. he went from being one of the richest men to be in one of the poorest man in san diego, california. we need to look at what we have in indiana. proud of the fact that we can live cheaper here than we

can in other places. certainly we want to raise wages every chance we get, but i think things in ourp mind and proportion to where we are. >> working two and three jobs to get by. we have not focused on high wage paying jobs in indiana. information technology. 21st century logistics. .he unbelievable changes if you look at the detailed plan , you will see we have one with great details. we talk about establishing a in opportunity fund where people that need capital can get money and we certify

furniture capitalist. we allow the credit to be increased like tennessee and kentucky have recently done. we allow the transfer in sale of the credit. there are so many things we can do. the indiana chamber of commerce says one thing we do have to do is be a welcoming community. certify furniturethat means we have twoe protection for members of the lgbt community. >> thank you very much mr. greg. one of the great things of my life, in addition to being journalist, serving as president of the american society of news editors. one of ours is the first amendment. this question is right up my alley. indiana governors of both parties have considered open records as vital to our society. indiana supreme court decision refusing to weigh in on religious weight of records were subject to public disclosure has been criticized shielding the

and executive branches from the people's ability to learn what this eighth government is up to. would you support more inner workings of government and court oversight? not?r why >> you will have 30 seconds to respond. >> i would, considering the taxpayers that pay for the office equipment that we use to interact and communicate with the public. having said that, i want to make sure the privacy authorization forum and does not wish for their private information to be lies thethere in balance. publicly if we are using property to conduct public business, the public deserves to see.t

>> the next response from mr. bell. >> this goes back to the pardon we talked about earlier. the burden of proof should be on the government. anytime a citizen asks to know something about the government, they have the right to know that. it goes back to who is in charge. i cannot think of many instances when the government would have the right to keep something secret from the people who are .aying the bill >> the second policy initiative we put out was on open portal. i 100% support it. i believe the more people know, the less they will fear about. they ought to be able to see the contract and government dismissed in real time. boy -- bookgreat called innovative state.

if you like reading what open government can do, take a look at the book. i think you will find it enjoyable. >> now for the final question of the night. voters following the debate have idea of where you stand on various issues. as we conclude the debates, tell us the most important thing about yourself you want voters to remember as they cast their vote. secondsyou will have 30 to answer. go first.ill would like tol, i say i'm very glad we will not have an open records problem anymore. the most important thing i can you is that i believe in

you. i believe in limited government. i believe you can make decisions for yourself. i want the government to protect you from fraud, perform its constitutional duties, and other that, i would like to leave you alone to lead your own life. >> it will be each and every day i was as if i am looking through your lens. seriously.job very i take every dollar as a little freedom for you and in your pocket. i wanted to be known i will to strive to be the most accessible governor in the history. that is why i've remain in perpetual motion. that is why i gone to all 92 counties over and over again so i know the issues and the people. >> i would like for voters to

know that i have a passion for indiana. that comes from having traveled the state and having top to hundreds of thousands of hoosiers. this has helped us to create a vision for indiana and a detailed, written plan. i can assure you as governor, i uniter, and i will never embarrass the citizens of the state of indiana. >> thank you. gentlemen, thank you for being here, and thank you for the stone and stability with which approached these debates. when it you agree? -- wouldn't you agree? [applause] thanks to all of you for watching or listening. a special thanks to the university of southern indiana for hosting the debate. and the league of women voters for keeping time. on behalf of the indiana debate thanks to all of further participate in the left world votess by getting out to

for the candidate of yourself -- your choice. good night. [applause] >> in half an hour, c-span's road to the white house coverage continues with the hillary rally inampaign florida on her 69th birthday. florida swing state in this election has 29 electoral vote. utah mike pence heading to lake.rally in salt

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term a month old, we will hear from clarence thomas marking his 25th year on the court. talking about constitution and democracy at the heritage foundation. term a month old, we will hear with the supreme court back in session, a special webpage to help you follow the court. select supreme court near the right-hand top of the page. president, you will see during the trip to chicago. night, larry type discusses his book comes the making of a liberal icon. eatsd bobby kennedy

richard nixon the way i think he america would have been a different place i think. some of the issues we are revisiting today of racial and international >> c-span's 2016 coverage continues with the debate in florida congressional race. and international discord might be a little bit of difference if we had tried to address them 50 years ago. >> sunday night on c-span's q and a. florida's 18th district is currently served by patrick

>> this is an issue where my opponent and i differ. a big proponent for buying 60,000 acres in order to convey water south toward local okeechobee and the florida bay. propose int i

getting funding for the program, i said often i will buy to be a member of the committee of transportation and infrastructure. as the next member of congress from the district, i will go back to the committee and work to get the next set of resources we need in order to buy a land. i think it is one of the most important things we can do to save the coastal workers -- coastal waters. >> what i support his real. he knows as well as i do that passing inchance of the next session. it is not going to happen. what we need to do is utilize the land that we have. tens of thousands of acres. .top the flow of water deal with water runoff that has nothing to do with lake

okeechobee. we need to strengthen our levees. my opponent says he wants to sit on this committee. i understand this committee. working with these agencies for the past 25 years. there is multiple democrats on this committee, to. his unwillingness to work across the aisle will not solve anything. >> your rebuttal. 30 seconds. >> i like to levees. my opponent says he wants to sit on this committee. i understand this committee. think i know as well as any and can't do somethe right.y going to be vilify anyone many thestreet

part of the solution, the problem is not getting solved. >> -- vilify anyone that needs to be part of the solution, the problem is not going to be solved. security board of is they will no longer be able to pay benefits starting in 2024. what do you propose to extend security?f social >> mr. perkins, 60 seconds. >> first of all, we have to seniors look on

without an increase in the social security benefits, i support a mandatory increase right now every single year to help them with the additional cost of milk, bread and groceries or property taxes are going up. we have to work together. these issues affect seniors and democrats all across this country.

come in the future. >> time is up. mr. mast, 30 seconds for rebuttal. mr. mast: one of the things my opponent said over and over again we need to print more money. we nee mr. mast: everybody has heard

me say if the election were held today donald trump would still have my support. i'm not going to pretend to anybody that either of these candidates have not gone out there and said and done things that should never be excused. they both v for each of us it

comes down to how those things they have said and done affect our lives personally. for me when i look at the two candidates i can tell you that hillary clinton has been party to leaving one of my personal friends, chris, people in a moment him as chris tonto, leaving him for dead in benghazi. when i think about her wearing the hat of commander in chief and all my friends still on the battlefield today, that's not something i can allow that to a beyond that i think that she's wrong in terms of iran. wrong in terms of gtmo. wrong in terms of immigration. wrong in terms of so many other issues that are affecting the direction of this country. it's for that reason that donald trump will still have my support today. >> mr. perkins, 60 seconds. mr. perkins: i'm voting for hillary clinton. i believe she will be the best commander in chief. i believe she'll bring our jobs back. strengthen our economy. she will protect our national security interests. but i don't know how you could vote for a man who vilifies women, who promotes sexual assault on girls as young as 10 >> mr. perkins, 60 seconds. mr. perkins: i'm voting for hillary clinton. i believe she will be the best years old, who degrade women, who ranks them on a system of one to 10. to me it's about character, moral character. and have somebody like that sit in the white house, the most powerful person on this planet n. this world, who degrades women at every level, to me is just a nonstarter. i could never support that. hillary clinton's got my vote and support. >> mr. mast, 30 seconds for rebuttal. mr. mast: i will reiterate. this is not an easy decision for everybody. this is not old 1980's movie where we can fill in the blank, none of the above. it will be donald trump or

hillary clinton. as i said it's going to be personal for each of us. the fact she left one of my friends to die in benghazi means i could never support her as commander in chief. >> mr. perkins, 30 seconds for rebuttal. mr. perkins: again, again, i continue to honor brian for his service and sacrifices and every man and woman, particularly the man that he's talking about. but this is about character. this is about your moral compass. and again, to have a man sitting in the oval office who talks like he talks and degrades women, who wants to deny women, as my opponent does, their fundamental right to make choices, wants to defend planned parenthood, who wants to destroy equality in this country and the human rights for everybody, could never get my support and should not be president. >> let's move on now to questions submitted via social media. the first question is for mr. mast with a rebuttal by mr. perkins. we'll have two questions.

this is from benjamin s., he wants to know if voters approve this year's medical marijuana amenent to the florida constitution, will you support federal legislation to make the federal standards the same? mr. mast, 90 seconds to answer. mr. mast: i tell people often if you're to classify me with a label would be conservative-arian, i'm fiscally conservative but libertarian in my views. i don't want the federal government involved in places where they shouldn't be involved. article 1, section 8 of the constitution very specifically delineates the powers of the federal government and 10th amendment. everything else should belong to the states. marijuana is one of those issues not covered in the constitution. i would not like to see the federal government playing a role in decision whether it's something that should be allowed by each one of the states. in answer to your question i would support whatever the state of florida decides. beyond that, i think there has to be a divide between whether we're talking about recreational use of marijuana and what the

states decide for themselves and the medicinal use of marijuana and what the f.d.a. approval. >> mr. perkins, 45 seconds. mr. perkins: that's coming up to vote this year. the people of the state of florida vote to pass t. i support what the people do. brian and i don't differ from a federal standpoint on? particular policy and medical marijuana. i would leave it up to states in this particular case to make the decisions that the residents and people that vote in that state decide to make. >> the second question from social media is for mr. perkins with rebuttal by mr. mast. this was submitted by phil b., he asks, obamacare has enrolled millions of uninsured but done nothing to reduce the cost of insurance or medical procedures. what one significant change would you like to make to the affordable care act. mr. perkins, you have 90 seconds to respond. mr. perkins: the things i do support clearly are the fact

it's provide medical insurance, pre-existing conditions for families with loved ones in need and provided as you just said millions of americans with insurance that they didn't have before. but understand how to solve the problem with insurance to begin with. the insurance in our own company has gone up 32% in the last two years. i understand why insurance companies are leaving the exchange. and small businesses and companies like mine, the burden is being passed on them. however, speaker ryan said it's not being repealed. so we need to take the problems within it and solve t we also have to work with our insurance companies. we have to deal with the skyrocketing costs of skyrocketing costs of prescription drugs. we have to deal with medical malpractice insurance. there is a reason insurance companies have to charge the premiums that they do. i want to work with all our businesses, in particular insurance companies say we have to continue to provide affordable insurance to every american. that is a right that they should v what do you need from congress? government regulation? our tax structures? tax reform? what do you need from congress so we can make it more friendly environment four to conduct business so we can ask you as congress to provide the things we need you to provide, which is health insurance for everybody in this country.

>> mr. mast, 45 seconds for rebuttal. mr. mast: i think we can all agree that the affordable care act has left millions without coverage. left millions of people without the doctors that they wanted, without the plans that they wanted, left millions of people probably without jobs because of the people who couldn't go out there and hire because of the premium hikes that have gone on. in the state of florida we're seeing on average this year, 17% premium hikes. at its peak if you have humana health care, you are going to see 36% premium hike that. is something very serious to everybody out there. the question that was asked, what would we like to see changed? the number one thing i would like to see with the affordable care act is making sure that it's people that decide the plans that are best for them not the federal government determining what is best to be placed in an insurance plan. that is the biggest problem with this. >> let's move on to round two from our panelists with specific questions from each candidate. miss rodriguez, you have a direct question for mr. perkins.

>> mr. perkins, you said you can work across the aisle, but voters blasted you and mr. mast for his part after a heated newspapers editorial board meeting. how can you convince those voters that you can and will listen to your opposing partie'' delegates and a civil discourse to reach a compromise? do you believe you owe mr. mast an apology? >> mr. perkins, 90 seconds to respond. mr. perkins: the second question if you could be more specific on that in a minute. i built a very successful business from a one person mowing lawns 32 years ago to one of the most successful disaster recovery management companies today. i know what it's like to write insurance and the tough decisions that have to be made by running a k i have done it and created thousands of jobs over the last 25 years. and i worked together with both sides, republicans and democrats, at the local, state, and federal level to build the successful business that i'm very proud of today. but it's also about actually

being able to work together. i'm a problem solver. i know how to find common ground and common bond with anybody to get dialogue moving, to get problems solved. the fact of the matter is, again, my opponent thinks that the democrats in congress are evil. he agrees with donald trump that they need to be exterminated. so i'm sure -- i can tell you this for sure, when i get, if elected to the seat, i will be able to go to washington, d.c., and knock on doors of republicans on the first day and be invited in to start solving these problems we have in this country. >> mr. mast, 45 seconds for rebuttal. mr. mast: some comments aren't ev worth relying to. i'm a big boy. i don't need an apology from randy perkins. he did say some things that were very distasteful. to expend special -- for his tax dollars paying for my v.a. care or making jokes saying i'm not man enough to stand up to him. i don't think that's the kind of person that can work with other people. it's been my experience, my job

to work with people from every single background. didn't matter how many pennies were in there pocket. gay, straight, or anything else. didn't matter. i worked with everybody under the most austere possible conditions. conditions that you could probably never imagine in your life. i still got the mission accomplished. >> mr. bennett, you have a direct question for mr. mast. >> sure. your opponent brought up briefly sugar contributions. i wonder if you could clear this up. you did accept some contributions from the sugar industry which you returned. i believe those total $11,000 or $12,000. but those people from the sugar industry also hosted fundraisers where you raised more money. life. i still got the mission accomplished. >> mr. bennett, you have a direct question for mr. mast. >> sure. your opponent brought up briefly sugar contributions. in the primary and general election, your opponents have said you should return that money as well. you have chosen not to. can you explain why that is? mr. mast: i think it's a fair thing for somebody to ask. the reality of the situation is i did not actually raise more money. when i instructed my team to go

back there and return every dollar to the sugar industry that's what they d i have provided lists of all the other donors to both you and other people outlining my relationship with every one of those other donors. people i know from my time at harvard. pro-israel advocacy around the country. people i know from my time speaking for their nonprofit organizations but people that had nothing to do with the sugar industry for political reasons my opponents are trying to say are somehow tied to the sugar industry. i will tell you this. i'm new to politics. i don't know every single player in the game. i don't know every single lobbyist out there. i make mistakes. and that's part of what you get out of somebody that's new into politics. but this is the other thing you get out of somebody new in politics. when i make a mistake, i'm not afraid to go out there and fix

it. that's not something that we see across the board in washington, d.c. >> mr. perkins, 45 seconds for rebuttal. >> first of all the $5 million, $6 million that the republican party and outside groups are spending, first of all -- again they mischaracterize anything that i said against brian or veterans. i apologize to all veterans if the outside groups have painted me saying things i didn't say. the fact of the matter is, brian out of somebody that's new into politics. but this is the other thing you mast did take sugar money. he was at their homes. he knows what the rules are. he said on january 15 he gave the money back but returned it three days after the primary. facts are facts. fiction is fiction. he's also taken money from all aboard florida and the outside groups and company that represent all aboard florida on the train coming through our back yards. >> a direct question for mr. perkins. >> both of you talk about lowering taxes on the middle class and strengthening the middle class again but you have very different routes on which you believe you should get there. what do you believe should be the income threshold for increased taxes if you do choose to increase taxes on the wealthier americans is? groups and company that

represent all aboard florida on the train coming through our >> mr. perkins. mr. perkins: before we start making decisions and solve one problem we have to realize what the collateral effect might be on the other side. i think clearly we need tax reform in this country, but i want to get to washington, d.c., and sit down with an economist and other agencies, meet with other members of congress who have been here for a while dealing with these issues. to stand here and say today i'm going to do a, b, and c is not realistic. we have to deal with tax reform. we have to put more money in people's pockets. we have shown by raising taxes in this country the government is not efficient with the money we're bringing in as we continue to raise taxes. we need to deal with the fraud, waste, and abuse in our government and need to become an efficient government. i'm going to look and explore every way to do that. to sit here and say i'm going to raise taxes on the wealthy, i'm not prepared to do that. i'm a numbers guy. can i promise you that. >> mr. mast, 45 seconds for rebuttal. >> painted by john f. kennedy as

one of the most paradoxical points that lowering the tax rates increases the revenue. this has been true with j.f.k., with ronald reagan, clinton, bush, and anybody else that lowers taxes to give you an example when ronald reagan lowered the top marginal tax rate from 70 to 28%, the revenue went from roughly $500 billion to nearly $1 trillion. that's one of the examples why we shouldn't be looking to raise but lower the tax rate if we want to bring increased revenue into the country. why? but lower the tax rate if we want to bring increased revenue into the country. why? because we allow people to go out there and invest in their community because they keep more coin in their pocket. >> round three now and our panelists have general questions for both of the candidates. each of them will have 60 seconds to respond. and then 30 seconds for rebuttal. mr. perkins will answer first on this first question. miss rodriguez, your question. >> what should the federal government do about decreasing the number of police-involved shootings?

or do you see this as a state issue? let me repeat it. what should the federal government do to decrease the number of police involved shootings, or do you see this as a state issue? mr. perkins: i think this is an issue that affects everybody. state and the federal government. here's what i can tell you. when i go to washington i'm going to sit down and work with our experts. not sit there from washington, d.c., and try to make decisions. i i'll come back my district and ask the police chiefs and sheriffs, what do you need from congress to improve community relations? what is the federal -- what does the federal government need to

give you to keep our communities safe? this is a problem we have in this country that has to be addressed. but it's not going to get solved unless we understand that some things at the local level. this is one of those that belong addressed. but it's not going to get solved unless we understand that some things at the local level. this is one of those that belong at the local level. work with our law enforcement. with our police chiefs and sheriffs. our rank-and-file members. not just the leadership in law enforcement. the rank and file. the patrolmen on the street saying what do you need from us is that you do your job and these shootings taking place? >> mr. mast, 60 second. military to make sure we're proficient in our job and that's one of the things we need to make sure every law enforcement has access to be at the level of one of the things that's peripheral to this issue that many people talk about is the idea of body cameras out there. should law enforcement have those? that's something that should be decided by each state, locality, precincts for themselves. i tell you that i personally have spoken with many law enforcement officers. while they do see this as another piece of equipment that could be burdensome to them carrying out on patrol, they see it as a vital piece of equipment to document what's going on as they are out there. mr. mast: training, training, more training. that was the solution in the

i'm with many of those law enforcement officers in saying if these precincts decide they have the ability found these and that if they need the help from the federal government as they often get these d.h.s. grants for different law enforcement agencies, that we should be out there making sure they have funds to get what they need to make sure that these incidents are accounted for. >> mr. perkins, 30 seconds for rebuttal. >> earlier my opponent said i >> earlier my opponent said i like to print money. bottom line is we have a tremendous shortfall in our budget right now. 13 so i would print money for our seniors to solve the problems. the fact that most are fighting day-to-day, week-to-week. i would print money to solve this problem right here we're talking about. to provide the support and all the technology and the training as i said when i spoke for law enforcement. some things if we print that money today, that dime we print today will return a dollar in investment in 10 years. it's not costing more. we're fronting money to saving money down the road.

it will improve the quality of life. it's going to save lives on top of it. sometimes you need to make tough decisions. fund those things now and return an investment in the near future. >> mr. mast. mr. mast: what you heard again is randy proposing we print more money, print more money, print more money. for our seniors, retirees, for anybody that's on a fixed income, to have somebody running for congress that thinks the solution is to go out there and print more money when it's going to make the cost for you to go to publix, when the amount you're bringing in is not doubling, that's one of the biggest concerns you should have is they are going to be party town nation. i don't think my opponent understands the economics of this issue. >> mr. bennett, your question for the candidates. >> sure. question about immigration. do you support a pathway to citizenship or legal status for the estimated 11 million or 12 million people in the country illegally? if not, what should be done about those people?

>> mr. mast, 60 seconds. mr. mast: it's unfortunate number one the rule of law was not adhered to for all those that came into this country illegally, whether it was they simply crossed the border or overstayed their visa. i personally am not a proponent for a pathway for citizenship for those that have made their first endeavor into this country breaking our law. that's not to say i won't be opened to an idea for making a legal work status for those that are still in this country for finding a way for them to be here and contribute to this society. it is certainly a conversation that i'm open to. but if your first venture into this country is to not respect the laws of our land, then i find it very difficult to grant citizenship to you as an individual. >> mr. perkins, 60 seconds. mr. perkins: i'll answer that. part of what brian said. i understand what a budget s i have been dealing with budgets and tough decision force the last 30 years in my own company. i'm not looking to print money. you want to solve the problems that our seniors are having today, you have to fund that today.

to improve the quality of life. i will make the tough decision to do that. i do support a path to citizenship. but i understand we have to secure our borders and enforce our immigration laws first and foremost. this motion that we might deport millions of people, it's never going to happen. it's fantasyland. i'd rather take those billions of dollars we're talking, billions upon billions of dollars and put them into jobs, schools, training, and infrastructure. water projects throughout this country. i want to take the 12 million people here illegally now and bring them up. allow them to start paying taxes into the system. which will add to the money the federal government collects. it would allow them to buy their own health insurance. yes, citizenship has to be earned. whether it's seven, 10, or 12 years down the road. that's what i support. >> 30 seconds for rebuttal. >> i did tell somebody of hispanic dissent i am capable of looking at this issue and saying that's the beautiful thing about immigration. it doesn't discriminate against anybody. it affects every person that wants to come into this country in the exact same way. i am not a proponent for finding that same pathway to citizenship

for those who have entered our country illegally. we need to re-enforce the way people are granted access to this country and reform what's going on with those here illegally and hopefully have another opportunity to address this more. my time is up now. >> mr. perkins, 30 seconds for rebuttal. >> again, we need to enforce immigration laws. and we need to strengthen our borders. absolutely without question. again, i support an earned path to citizenship, seven, 10, 12 years whatever that may be by working with other members of congress to make sensible decisions, hard decisions in this country. >> mr. eschback, your question for the candidates. >> president obama has said that recent talk about the muslim communities and muslim countries has damaged our standing on the international stage. would you be mindful of how you

speak and that it's representative of the area and how do we go out and build bridges again? >> mr. perkins, 60 seconds to answer. mr. perkins: anybody in this room, even this country, heart will go out for the little boy who was washed up on the beach and drowned. the little b w was caught when the building was bombed. we have laws that exist in this country right now. and we need to rely on our f.b.i. and our other agencies. there is a process in this country right now. we have processes and laws on the books. if that's 2 1/2 years, but i'm willing to sit down with other members of congress. i'm going to sit down with the f.b.i. and other intelligence agencies because they have the data. we have entrusted them to protect this country. and make smart decisions. educated decisions. i'll sit down with them and have a open conversation. is the 2 1/2 year time frame enough. do we need to increase that to 3? i also support any young child around this country, whether syrian refugees or from any country that we should be

willing to take in with our open hearts because we're a caring, loving nation. any child around this world and find a home for them with families in this country and provide safe and loving homes for them. >> mr. mast, 60 seconds. mr. mast: to answer your question. i try to be mindful of every single person that i'm speaking to. i try to be completely respectful to every single person that i'm spooking to regardless of their background. that should not indicate that we should have weakness or aversion to identifying problems that we see for what they are. we have a problem around the world and we have a problem in this country with the threat of radical islamic jihadist terrorists. if we're afraid to sutter those words, to mention, that if we're afraid to talk about that, then we're never going to be able to overcome that threat. because that is one of the pinnacle things you need to do with any problem that you face

but i will not gloss over the issues that are related to radical islamic jihadist terrorism that are affecting the breadth of this entire world. >> mr. perkins, 30 seconds for rebuttal. mr. perkins: they are radical extreme terrorists. you and i agree on this. we speak the same words. however we're a passionate country and we have to address these things on a smart, sensible basis. we have the intelligence agents, we have the f.b.i. brian, i'll just as passionate and love this country as much as you do and i will do everything i can as you would with other members of congress to make the smart decisions and the tough decisions to keep this country safe and free from terrorism. not only here but with our friends around the world. >> mr. mast, 30 seconds for rebuttal. mr. mast: the fact is terrorism has been my life's work. as i mentioned in my opening comments with three federal agencies. i have a very unique perspective on it that luckily most will never have. i don't wish it upon anybody. when we're talking about looking at terrorists entering this

country. combating those terrorists overseas. making sure there is no pipeline for them to be trained overseas and find their way into our country. making sure they can't come through one of our porous borders. security professionals and roles because that is not always the case. and making sure we have commonsense vetting for those coming into our country. having programs like behavioral protection used by our allies. >> take some questions now from social media that were submitted to us. rick wants to know do you think global warming is real and it's happening right now? or do you think we need to study it more. mr. perkins, you have 90 seconds to respond. mr. perkins: absolutely. i do believe in climate change. i dive, i'm in the water. been doing it my whole life. i can seat effects when i'm diving and looking at coral reef systems. however we have to do it in a smart, sensible way.

we have to protect our american businesses and our american companies. we have to pass smart regulation, environmental rules, as we're trying to deal with climate change and global warming. but we cannot do it in a way that is hurting our own businesses in the country and keepinem from being able to be as competitive as they need to be. we have to stop asking our companies to take the full burden of the rest of the world. we have to make sure the other -- rest of the world and china and some other nations to enforce the environmental rules and regulations on them before we start forcing rules and regulations, continuing to enforce rules and regulations on our american business that is are costing us jobs and the competitiveness that we have in this country. yes, i care about the world environment, but i also care about our companies and care about jobs that we're losing and livable wages that provide insurance and pensions and quality of life for all americans in this country. >> mr. mast, 45 seconds for rebuttal. mr. mast: i do believe in

climate change. it's something i think very passionately about. i studied the environment as a student at the harvard university. i can tell you much of the research is still not completely conclusive, which is something that i think a lot of people question what is going on with climate change. beyond that i can tell you i think there are a number of important responsibilities that we need to pay attention to in this world. we need to make sure we understand that we have an economic responsibility and we have a social responsibility and we have an environmental responsibility as well. we need to look at all of those equally when we're looking at the legislation that we're going to put forward for this country so that people can still live and we can still have a prosperous nation. >> another question from social media. dustin writes, i am a small business other working seven days a week. how will you help small business owners with taxation as well as being able to actually afford health insurance for self and employees?

mr. mast, you have 90 seconds. mr. mast: these are probably. so biggest issues that face every small business owner. making sure that we get the federal government out of their way whether in terms of the amount they have to pay into for taxes or whether it's what they have to pay into in order to cover people with health care with programs like the affordable care act. i already mentioned as one of the statistics to say that on average floridian also see a 17% premium hike in terms of the cost of the affordable care act. this is one of those hurdles to those individuals that have small businesses having that ability to have more dollars in their pocket and go out there and invest in their business. invest in the product that they cover people with health care with programs like the affordable care act. want to go out there and product. invest in their infrastructure so they can be more productive. one of the other important issues is making sure we don't have a federal minimum wage. my opponent is one of those individuals that wants to see $15 an hour minimum wage. i think it's one of the interesting points that on this very stage george bennett asked this question, two years ago, to the candidates, when he said at that time when they were talking about $10 minimum wage, that the

congressional budget office said at that time just raising the minimum wage to $10 an hour would cost as many as half a million jobs. right now he wants to talk about raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour. that's something that would take every single small business there north palm beach to fort pierce and make it practically impossible for them to run their businesses across federal highway and everywhere else. >> mr. perkins, 45 seconds. mr. perkins: it's interesting to hear my opponent talk about small business when he hasn't created a job in his life. i understand you have to wear hats as human resource, the attorney, you're the accountant, and everything else in between. i understand what banks, used to banks when they took risks on their lives. it was a much more conducive environment for success 30 years ago. we have to deal with the regulations.

however, my opponent talks about health insurance. clearly we pay 100% of the health insurance for employees and their families. he also wants to put it back out there. the reason we had to go with the obamacare to twin with is millions of people didn't have insurance. if you put it back out there without commonsense approach insurance companies are going to drive up the wait. for the people who had insurance can't afford t they will be insured again. >> you're out of time. mr. perkins: i know what i'm talking about. >> get to our fourth and final round from our panelists. these are specific questions that are directed at each candidate. miss rose, you have a question for mr. mast. >> mr. mast, you touched on terrorism earlier and i'd like you to expand on your comments. do you support putting more boots on the ground in syria? and how can we stop attacks on u.s. soil by u.s. citizens?

and also, do you support banning the sale of guns to those on the no-fly list? mr. mast: i hope that's a 90 second question. you have to remind me. number one, do i support boots on the ground in syria? i have friend on the ground there as we speak. i think very cautiously about any of the lives of any of my friends are in danger i think about that. it's very, very personal to me. as i mentioned already, we need to make sure there is not a pipeline overseas for foreign fighters to be trained and come into the united states of america and commit attacks. those terrorist that is are being inspired here in the united states of america and elsewhere around the world, they are being inspired by what is going on in syria and iraq and that's where it becomes so important that we go out there and we eliminate the threat in those countries. and i can tell that you this is something that, unfortunately, due to the failed policies of this administration, that we have a much bigger problem than what we should have had. when this administration called isis the j.v. team, at a time of the arab spring when we could have defeated them with nothing but a couple special operations forces and now we have to send in a large military group in order to defeat them, that is a major problem. beyond that, addressing terrorism here in the united

states of america, i have given you a few solutions to that. number one, we need to make sure that we know the individuals that want come into this country, that we're vetting them. we're using behavioral detection on the people coming into this where we asked them questions like those i have been asked when i was being granted our highest level security clearances. have you ever considered committing an act of terrorism. i had to answer that question. we should be asking other people those questions as well. we need to be smart about the people that we're letting into this country because we have to remember above all all it is the number one, we need to make sure that we know the individuals ght of the american citizens to be protected by those people that are in office. that's what i fight for. >> mr. perkins, 45 seconds. mr. perkins: it when it comes to protecting this country from terrorism here or anywhere around the world, my opponent and i do not differ. not disagree on anything. however, unlike my opponent, i'm going to go to d.c. and i'm going to sit down with my friend, john mccain, who i have known for 15 years who has been at my home and i supported his candidacies, sit down with people like that in congress and

sit down and say i have to make tough votes on national security interest not only in this country and keeping this country safe, the decisions we have to make to send our men and women and putting boots on the ground again. i need your help with it. i'll sit down with the security agencies and intelligence officials and tell them what do they need from us. putting more boots on the ground? i'll listen to the experts because it's going to take just more than me or my opponent to make those tough decisions. it should. >> mr. bennett, you have a question for mr. perkins. >> you mentioned a couple times tonight that you are pro-choice on abortion. what is your position on the hyde amendment since the 1970's has prohibited use of federal money to pay for most abortions? hillary clinton and i think this year's democratic party platform advocate getting rid of that. what's your position on that? >> first of all i'm 100% pro-choice. i want to thank mona for the

time she took, she knows what i'm talking about, at her clinic the other day. not only was i 1,000 percent pro-choice and will never waiver on allowing a woman's right to choose. we do not need to send mother man, any man to congress who is going to try to tell the women what decision she should make with her health care issues or any other decision that a woman has the right to make for herself. we have an amendment in place. if we want to bring that back in front of congress and discuss and removing that amendment, will i have a vote when that time comes and exercise my vote along with 435 other members of congress when it comes to that issue. >> mr. mast, 45 seconds. mr. mast: my opponent has called me radical and extremist numerous times on this stage without any provocation. i think without any reason to do so.

i would like to see him answer this question because i think it falls among the most radical views that exist out there. he said he is 100% pro-choice individual. so does that mean you are for partial-birth abortion? you're a proponent for third trimester abortions. you believe the unborn have no rights? if that is your opinion i believe you are probably ranking among the most extreme people on this stage. >> please, no applause. please. we're a little short on time. you have a question for mr. mast, reduce the answer time. so we have time for closing. >> we have seen a lot of turnover in this office in the last 15 years that i have been here. will you commit yourself to this area? i know you both just moved here. will you commit yourself to this area and to this office so when you gain traction on issues we don't lose them in two years? >> mr. mast, 60 seconds. mr. mast: i commit myself 100% to this area.

it was the honor of my life serving this country. i'm honored many of you are considering me to represent you. as much as there are very large issues we have spoken about this evening, whether tax reform or social security, a number of other things, i understand that as one person i'm not going to go up there to washington, d.c., and affect these issues solely. i have to work with 400-plus other members of congress out there and another side in the senate and the president of the united states of america to get things passed. the one thing that i can guarantee when i speak to constituents of this area. if you have a problem, if you have an issue, if your small business has a problem, if you need me to be a loud mouthpiece for you, to go out there and represent you against some federal agency who is harassing you, i will be the loudest possible voice that i can be for your issues. and that is how i will fight for every single one of you across this district. >> 30 seconds for rebuttal. mr. perkins: the prior question, brian wants to make that -- what he said about abortion. it's not about abortion. it's about a woman's fundamental right to choose the decisions

best for her, period. with no exceptions. however, unlike my opponent, and i say this very humbly, i do not need a job. i have been provided tremendous opportunity in my life that the only interest, the only special interest outside of sugar anti-all aboard florida money he's taken, the only special interest i have will be the people of district 18 that i represent. those are my interests. yes, i will be dedicated -- >> that's all we have time for. we have time f closing statements. mr. perkins, you will go first.

however when you talk about our seniors and prescription drug, and mental issues, children, anxiety, opioid edmonton destroying the fabric of this country. our seniors are more dependent than ever on the food stamp program. for $125 more a month, i'm sure our seniors when they worked hard their entire life did not expect to go into retirement depending on food stamps to get by on a day-to-day basis. hard their entire life did not expect to go into retirement depending on food stamps to get by on a day-to-day basis. criminal justice reform. issues that are unique to this district. our single mothers. our veterans. our first responders. all the challenges that we have in this district throughout this country.

my opponent is extreme. he's radical. when you want to go to congress to make your first mission to defund planned parenthood 100%. when you want to deny a woman's right to choose, to strip the lgbt community from equality, human rights that they should be -- they should have just like every other american. when you stand behind a man like donald trump who said repulsive, very vulgar things against when you want to deny a woman's right to choose, to strip the lgbt community from equality, human rights that they should be -- they should have just like every other american. when you stand behind a man like donald trump who said repulsive, very vulgar things against women, i'm sure that puts you in the extreme radical part of your party. i'm a problem solver. i have been doing it my whole life. i know how to work with people. i'll find common ground and i

bill saying he would hope to be called the first tollefson veer, adding that he is his wife's volunteer for the campaign. that at thele hill.com. we are going to take you momentarily to waterfront park in tampa. looks like senator bill nelson coming up to the podium. we are live here in tampa on c-span. >> thank you, thank you, thank you for being here today on behalf of hillary. florida, you know is exceptionally important. that is why you are here. the i-4 corridor is important. i just want to tell you that

you've already concluded this, t look at the assault that has been coming at this candidate, not just this year, but for years. and look who is standing tall. [cheers and applause] >> and if there is any question about it, how about that third debate? [cheers and applause] it's a privilege for me to be going around the state with hillary and with tim. we have had the nelson -- the nelson family has had the privilege of knowing the clintons for three decades. and in the senate, tim kaine is one of my best friends. i can tell you he is the real

deal. [cheers and applause] -- what is so structurive ininstructive about tim and what was so prophetic was way back in law school, he took a year off, and he went to honduras as a catholic missionaries teaching welding to the kids. and lo and behold in the course of that year of course he became fluent in spanish. look how prophetic that was, that years later he now goes all over america fluently speaking spanish in this campaign. [cheers and applause] all right. i just want to ask you a couple of questions, and then we are going to bring hillary and the person who is going to introduce her up here. you know an election is a choice, and this is clearly a

choice. so let's think about what we want in a president. do you want somebody who just completely on any subject flies off the handle, or do you want somebody prepared? [cheers and applause] all right. now you know the president is the chief of state. the chief of state has to deal ith about 180 countries. so do you want someone who has no clue about foreign policy, or do you want a real expert in foreign policy? of course. now think about the country. have you ever seen it divided like it is? have you ever seen it so sharp? have you ever seen it where politics has become a blood sport?

so the obvious question is do you want a leader in america that divides us or one that unifies us? stronger together. that will is exactly right. and finally, in this campaign what you have seen, which is just unbelievable, we have got to have a president that does indeed bring us together. so would that person be someone who goes around and constantly insults everybody else? or is it someone who respects the other person, constantly reaching out to them, that treats them as you would want to be treated? that is what we want in a president, and i think what i see all over florida, it's coming together, and in two

weeks, the night of november 8th, i think we are going to be singing happy days are here again. god bless you. cheers and applause] >> please welcome to the stage, spanish american immigrant and humanitarian chef jose andres. >> hello, hello, everybody. hello, everybody! cheers and applause] >> anybody speak spanish here? >> uh-oh. i forgot the mic.

let me do this because it is windy. oh, yeah. ople of america, people of florida, my name is jose andres, and i am an immigrant. [cheers and applause] oh, yeah, can you clap. three novembers ago, after 21 years in my new country, my wife and i became american citizens. [cheers and applause] we raised our hands. we took the oath of citizenship, and we cried from happiness. this november i will cast my first vote for the next president of the united states of america.

[cheers and applause] -- many of you you know, but none of us can quite capture in words how proud i will be to cast my ballot as an american citizen. we immigrants, we were not lucky enough to be born americans. it wasn't just given to us. immigrants like me, like many of you, we had to leave the land of our birth. immigrants like me, we had to work hard for it. immigrant like me, we had to wait for it. we had to really want it to become americans. oh, yeah. and so we love america in a very, very, very special way.

we love this country where we were born, but we love the country now we causality home. immigrants like me, we know where we come from, but we know where we belong. and i want to tell you today why i love america, why america is great to me. some people actually -- let's be fair. someone talks about making america great again. what? who are you? where do you come from? where have you been? look around you. maybe he skipped u.s. history class, i don't know. but people of tampa, america has always been great, from the very beginning, and i want to the way an , in

imgrant feels deep inside their hearts. immigrants like me, many like you, we understand better than most that to be american is a privilege. that conveys not only rights, but rights, but responsibilities. and our responsibility, my responsibility, is to speak up. the history of this country, the history of this election is not a fight between republicans and democrats, red states and blue states, rich people and poor people, workers and employers, the right against the left, and the left against the right. no, it is not about that. we are all-americans, and we are stronger together. this election is a battle between twoorces. the forces of inclusion, and the forces of exclusion. the forces of exclusion include

hatred, and envy, and thinger and suspicion and division. these forces build barriers, and borders and barricades. this promote conflict, inequality, violence, dislocation and war. they promote inequality. sometimes those forces, they only care about making money. it is not like it is about them, believe me. no matter how many workers they abuse, they don't care. how many small businesses they get, but not paying them. some claim they want to make america great again, they don't even pay their due tax that they are supposed to be doing. those forces of exclusion, they

put up walls. but the forces of inclusion, my , and s, they include love welcome, and hospitality, and unity, and harmony and belonging. those forces break down barriers and bring people ogether because we again are stronger together. these forces of inclusion, they promote cooperation, unity, community, prosperity and happiness. these two forces change people. if you are at a rally like this one or maybe watching a speech on tv, even if you cannot hear the words, you can tell the kind of speech by the emotions in the crowd. if people are tense and angry, they are hearing a speech of exclusion. if people are open and happy like we are here right now,

then hearing a speech of inclusion. and we all know who we think believes in exclusion, and that is not the america i wanted to be part of. but i know who has fought hard all her life, believing that inclusion will make us all better. i have been lucky enough to travel to many corners of the world, and the happiest places i have been are places where people lead with their arms wide open. i try to be that person. i am a cook. inclusion is making a listening. i feed the few, but my dream is to feed the many. i want everybody to come and eat my food. you, and you, and you. maybe not you. i am kidding. ok, i want everybody all

sitting at the same table. republicans, democrats and independents, all of us. please, pass the salsa. [cheers and applause] the more people we can include, the happier we are. i am going to tell you the truth. i don't say i am doing anything special by trying to believe in inclusion. we are only sharing the gift that god has given us. i only want to include others because america included me and many of my spanish latino brothers from the very beginning, and this is the america i love, the america that hillary clinton has worked hard all of her life without losing a bit of enthusiasm. i love this country. and i have tried to give back to this country for everything

it has given me. a few years ago, my friends, i had a restaurant, a mexican estaurant. great mexican, hard-working people. and the restaurant was not doing so well. e lawyers told me and my partners that maybe we should file for bankruptcy, chapter 11. it is legal. but we didn't do that. we didn't want to do that to our workers. we didn't want to do that to the people we owed money to. i wanted to take the high road. why? because when they go low, we know what obama says. so we did. we moved the restaurant forward. we took some losses. we moved the location, and today, my friends, 14 years later, it is thriving and serving tacos to as many corners of america as we can.

today i could be in a certain hotel in washington, d.c. opening a restaurant inside. ut here i am, not even mentioning him, because we are not supposed to mention him until he apologizes to every latino, every mexican, every woman, every veteran, to every person he has insulted. i will tell you i would rather be here with you in tampa today and support this amazing woman on her birthday. are we going to sing to her again he came to america in 1989. i was a cook in the spanish

navy. my ship, believe it or not, not too ere in tampa far away from where we are. i love tampa. so this is close to a homecoming for me. from my mast i could see the american flags from the nearby ships. a night under the stars. i offer wondered if they were for the stars on the american flag, put there so the world will know this is a place of infinality did not infin it's possibilities, so that anyone can strive for a better life. i dreamed of coming back hero to be part of everything i saw. i knew i had found a new place to belong. and the feeling of belonging made me responsible to speak up

for those still searching for their place to belong. there are 11 million undocumented immigrants in our country. many are right here in front of us working hard to maintain our quality of life. they are not so different from us. we are all immigrants at some point in our family past trying to find a place to belong. immigration reform is not a problem for us to solve. it is opportunity for us to seize. i know that hillary clinton is going to help us seize that opportunity. this is my america. this is why they love our country, the country my three daughters call home. some tell me i am on the losing side, that it is moving towards exclusion.

let me tell you why i am so optimistic for america. yes, our country is torn between deciding between include and exclude. but let me tell you, let's elect a leader who knows everybody belongs. let's elect a leader who knows everybody deserves a chance. let's elect a leader that knows that everybody has something to give. let's elect a leader who has fought hard for inclusion her whole life, a leader who has fought for the poor and for the weak, and a leader who has fought for the sick and the old, a leader who will fight for every immigrant looking for a place to belong. let's elect someone who not nly supports the forces of inclusion, let's elect someone who has proved with her whole life that she is a force of

inclusion. people of america, people of tampa, let me introduce. it is my honor to bring to the stage the next president of the united states of america, ham clinton. god bless you. ♪ ♪ > thank you so much.

audience: happy birthday, happy birthday, happy birthday. >> thank you. wow. thank you all. what a great way to celebrate my birthday, being here in tampa. [cheers and applause] i am so grateful to jose for that wonderful introduction. he is an incredibly talented chef, but more than that, i have to say he is a humanitarian. he just came back from haiti once again, where he goes periodically to help feed people. he has been doing it ever since the terrible earthquake, going to help people in remote villages. and he does that all over the world when it comes to making sure that there are clean cook

stoves so that people can cook, primarily women and children, without fear of getting sick from inhaling all the smoke. i enlisted jose's help when i was secretary of state on the clean cook stoves initiative. a ou heard, he is also proud immigrant, and he is standing up to donald trump's anti-immigrant rhetoric, and he's doing it in a very courageous way, because he sacrificed his business. he had been asked by the trump organization to put a restaurant into the new hotel that trump was talking about on tv today in washington. and after jose heard the kinds of things that donald trump was saying about immigrants, he said no, i refuse to open a

restaurant in that hotel. [cheers and applause] that is really gutsy. and today was a perfect time to have jose be with us because, as i said, donald trump is taking time off the campaign trail to officially open the hotel. yesterday here in florida he took time out to invite the press to listen to his employees talk about what a great boss he is while he was watching and listening to them. and today in opening that hotel, i think it's important to note that he once again . lied on undocumented workers the same people he has been insulting and demonizing throughout this campaign. so like with so much else that

donald trump says, he says one thing, and then he does something different. many of the products in the hotel were made overseas rather than here in the united states, and he even sued the district of columbia to pay lower taxes. that is the way that he does business. we have actually learned in this campaign that donald trump is the poster boy for everything wrong with our economy. he refuses to pay workers and contractors from atlantic city, to miami, to las vegas. he stiffs small businesses. i take that one personally because my dad was a small businessman. i have met so many people who did projects for donald trump, provided pianos for one of his casinos, installed drapes for a

hotel, laid the marble, put in the glass, washed the dishes, painted, and then weren't paid. i just think that is fundamentally wrong, and that is not the kind of experience we need in the oval office. i am grateful to jose, and i want to thank everyone else. my great friend, your united states senator, bill nelson. [cheers and applause] kaster. oman kathy mayor bob buckhorn, who is here with his two daughters. governor charlie crist, soon to be congressman charlie crist. i have to say we have two great candidates here. david singer, candidate for the house of representatives, and rena frazier, another candidate. and we have the great talent of angela bassett with us today.

[cheers and applause] so, my friends, here's the advice that i got. it is a beautiful day in tampa, but it is warm. some of you have been here a while, right? and i'm watching the flags. so long as they are waving, i know there's a breeze. if they stop waving, i am really going to cut this short. but let me start by thanking you for being here. cheers and applause] audience: hillary, hillary, hillary, hillary, hillary. >> thank you, thank you. well, i will tell you, if i ever need a pick up, i am coming back to tampa, mayor. [cheers and applause]

with 13 days left in this election, we cannot stop for a minute. no complacency here. nobody flagging. we have got to get everybody out to vote, and i hope in addition to the people that i have mentioned, someone who is not here i hope you will support. that is congressman patrick murphy, to send him to the united states senate. [cheers and applause] i think you will be pleased because he is an independent voice. he is a problem solver. he believes in comprehensive immigration reform. he has stood with planned parenthood against the attacks it has suffered. he has even brought democrats and republicans together to try to protect our environment and fund everglades restoration. he will stand up to the gun lobby. he will defend social security

and medicare, not cutting or privatizing those two essential programs. so please do your best to make sure we send patrick murphy to the senate. now, i have to ask you, anybody see the last debate? [cheers and applause] you know, i have now stood next to donald trump for four and a half hours, proving con cluesively i have the stamina to do the job. cheers and applause] and every time he says one of those outrageous things that he does have a way of saying, i just keep remembering michelle obama's words. when he goes low, we go high. but i've got to say, he said something in the last debate we have never heard from anybody running for president. he basically said that he is not sure. he refused to say that he would

respect the results of the election. now this is a guy who said the alabamas were rigged, so you can't really take what he says -- the emmys were rigged. you can't take what he says very seriously. this is a problem because the first thing a president does at noon on january 20th is toe take an oath to preserve, protect and defend the constitution. if you are casting doubt, you want to keep people in suspense as to whether you will respect the outcome of an election, that is contrary to who we are as americans. we have our elections. we have had them from george washington forward. we are going to keep having them and show what a democracy looks like to the rest of the world. [cheers and applause] american people are going to reject the start, divisive

vision of america. and it is happening, my friends. .e have reached a milestone more than 200 million americans are registered to vote, the biggest number ever. [applause] that number includes 50 million young people. [applause] more than 10 million people have already voted, including 2 million right here in florida. i'm hearing some great stories from people. let me tell you one. it's about stephen from saint augustine. he's been fighting a rare form of leukemia and heart disease. he has been in and out of the hospital a dozen times in the last two years, but he knows how important his vote is. i heard yesterday that he ditched his oxygen tank, which i would not have recommended,

clung to his walker, stood in line so he could cast his vote for a better america. that, nobodyn do has any excuses, and i think this extends not just to democrats, but to republicans and independents. i'm proud to have read -- have support from republicans and independents across florida and across america. agree that we should reject hate and division. we have seen donald trump assault nearly every person in that soand i find intolerable because look at this diverse crowd. look at temp the. it is a cosmopolitan city. forida is paving the way

what our country will look like and we need to be lifting each other at, listening to each respecting each other, not sowing seeds of hatred and bigotry. one of my biggest jobs after this election will be bringing our country together, and i'm going to need your help. [applause] we are going to get the economy working for everybody, not just people at the top with new jobs and infrastructure. are rail that you want, we going to get it because it would help you so much. putk of the people we would to work. technology, innovation, research, advanced manufacturing and small business. i want to be the best small business president you can have to help people start and grow their businesses. also going to make

america the clean energy superpower of the 21st century. create millions of jobs and protect florida, especially coastal florida, and we can protect our planet at the same time. you are already seeing the results of climate change here in florida. i was just in miami and they have flooding on sunny days with no rain. people call 31 one because they think a water main broke, but it is the ocean rising. state thate is no could benefit more from a clean energy agenda than florida and that's exactly what we are going to do. [applause] publicalso going to make colleges and universities tuition free. [cheering and applause] if your family makes less than $125,000, which is most families

in america, you are not going to have to pay a penny to go to a public college or university. if your family makes more than that, you are not going to have to go into debt. pay what you can afford and then we will make sure you can go without getting into debt because that drags people down. havefor people who already that, we are going to help you refinance it and pay it off. [applause] and i want to say something to all the teachers and educators -- i want to work with you and be a good partner with you and i think there should be more than one way, more than just a four year college degree to get a good job with a good middle-class life for your family. technicalst in more education in high school, and our community colleges. let's have more apprenticeship

programs together. but while we grow the economy, let's make it more fair. we need to raise the national minimum wage so that people who work full time are not left in poverty. hard raised to believe in work. my grandfather was a factory worker and my dad had a small business. we believe you have to work for what you get in life. but, if you are working, you should not the at the point where you can't even afford food or clothes or rent at the end of the year. time to finally guarantee equal pay for women? [cheering and applause] this is not just a women's issue. it's a family issue. wife, have a mother, sister or daughter, it is your issue.

opponent, we are going to ask the wealthy, the millionaires and billionaires to pay their fair share because we are going to close the loophole and make sure no multimillionaire ever pays a lower tax rate than a nurse, teacher, police officer or firefighter. and i will not raise taxes on anyone raising less than $250,000 a year. so, when you go to the polls, vote to grow the economy. fairer make the economy and compare that with what my opponent has proposed. he really believes if you give trillions in tax cuts, everything will trickle down.

know that doesn't work. we have seen it. and it is pretty rich who comes from a guy who claims to be rich but hasn't paid a dime in federal income taxes in 20 years. he says not paying taxes make some smart. how smart you have to be to lose a billion dollars in one year. besides, what kind of genius loses money running a casino for heavens sake? [cheering and applause] [chanting hillary, hillary, hillary"] actually, it sounds like a few people have been at casinos here. this means he has contributed

zero. he has the gall to call our military a disaster. not only is he wrong, but what right does he have to say that? he hasn't contributed a penny to our military. not a penny to our veterans. care,penny to health education, not a penny to highways or infrastructure. charge he makes about all the problems in our country. we did a little research. he has been denigrating america for decades. it did not start with his arthur lie against president obama. it didn't even start running against me. back in 1987, he took out a $100,000 ad in the new york times criticizing president reagan. he said our leaders were the laughing stock of the world. who criticizes

everybody but himself. at some point, you have to say wait a minute, we are better than that. we are stronger than that. move forward into the future with confidence and optimism. that is what we are offering in this campaign. it's not just what we are against that should motivate you to go to the polls. it is what we are for. [applause] and i believe strongly what we are for will make it possible for all of us, especially our kids and grandkids to have the best future, america's best days can still be ahead of us. but we can't make any of this happen if we don't have e-voting.

donald trump says he can still win and he is right. that's why it's important everyone gets out in votes. in a lot of places, you can only vote on election day. but in florida, voting couldn't be easier. early voting began on monday. in south florida, goes through sunday. site.n go to any voting in fact, the county center on east kennedy boulevard is a 10 minute walk from here. you can goyou can go vote rights event and we will have staff ready to help you get there and you can go to i will vote.com and confirm your polling place and make a plan to vote. but i also hope that you will volunteer these last two weeks. we are reaching out to everybody. go to hillary clinton.com.

take all -- take out your phone and text. we can use you. we are making millions of phone calls in florida. maybe by the time we finish, we are knocking on millions of doors. we don't want anyone to be left on or left behind because january 20, america will have a new president. say to you that change is inevitable in life. what kinduestion is of change are we going to have? i want you to talk to anyone you know who is thinking of not voting or maybe voting for my opponent. i'm serious. after this election, if i am

fortunate enough to be elected, we are going to reach out to everybody. and as the people you are talking to what kind of change they really want because i don't think most americans want the kind of divisive and dark change donald trump is offering. mass before tatian's that will rip families apart. a repeal of gun freeze school zones, going back to the days when insurance companies could discriminate against us if we have a pre-existing condition. letting wall street right its own rules. denying climate change. defunding planned parenthood. hugest tax breaks ever for the wealthy. and for the broad -- a broad, allowing more companies -- allowing more countries to get nuclear weapons.

that might be change, but it is not the change we need. my vision is different. it is more hope all, optimistic and unifying. i want to be a country where every -- i want us to be a country can -- where anyone can go to school if they choose. and new industries like clean energy and advanced manufacturing. i want us to be a country where hard-working immigrants who pay taxes, and why the way, one half of undocumented workers pay federal income taxes which means they are paying more federal income taxes than donald trump pays. in a country where we not only have equal pay for work, but we have childcare, working with our allies to defeat terrorism and stop the spread of nuclear weapons. .hange is coming

the choice is yours about what kind of change we will have and i hope you will choose to be part of this campaign because it's not just about winning on november 8. work about getting to because i do believe we are stronger together. tim kaine and i wrote a book laying out our agenda because i think you deserve to know what i will try to do as your president. if you will help, we will come together to give every american the chance to chart your own future and contribute to our great country. let's prove once and for all that love trumps hate. thank you. [applause] ♪

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>> 13 days until the election. hillary clinton on her 60 night birthday, celebrating last night in miami. our road to the white house coverage continues this afternoon. we will be in salt lake city for

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controls the house and senate. stay with c-span for coverage of the presidential race, including campaign stops with hillary clinton, donald trump, and their surrogates. follow key races with our coverage of their debate. c-span -- where history unfolds daily. we are focusing on battleground states this week on the washington journal. talking about the elections in states that are going to be key on election day. today, we are talking about pennsylvania. we are also focusing on states like florida and ohio, north carolina and iowa. ourou have missed any of previous programs this week, you can check them out on "washington journa www.c-span.o. we begin with a familiar face on "washington journal," terry of the is the director center for politics and public

affairs at franklin and marshall college. your center is known for its pennsylvania poll. perhaps we can start with where you have the presidential race in the keystone state right now. guest: if you look on the real clear politics average, you can look at any of the polling .ggregators secretary clinton has about a six-point lead. that lead has varied over the last two months from a little and she developed that lead a couple of weeks after her convention into early september and it drops just before the first debate to about two percentage points. the race as we have seen in some other battleground states has been relatively fluid. right now, hillary clinton has a six-point lead on average. reasonse a number of for that and a number of demographics that explain why she has believe that she has.

-- the league that she has. -- the lead that she has. this point coming at the lead does hold, can pennsylvania still truly be called a swing state? guest: that is a great question. i get asked that all the time. pennsylvania four years ago was the sixth closest state in the union. consistently had 40 states that have gone for either the republicans or democrats for the past six elections. 10 states have buried. -- have buried. -- have varied. no one knows for sure. the election got very close at one point. you mentioned the targeted battleground states in your open . for the, north carolina, ohio

and now, both the trump campaign manager hillary clinton have made it clear that pennsylvania is a targeted state. aey've been spending disproportionate amount of time and resources into the commonwealth. in that sense, we are still a swing state, if only because we are targeted. if donald trump were to win our state, of the four that i mentioned, you are getting most of the interest, attention, campaign resources, candidate visits, circuit visits, pennsylvania is the most democratic. if donald trump were to win pennsylvania, he is likely to othero of the three targeted states i mentioned and probably the presidency. for clinton, it becomes a firewall.

if she wins the state come it makes it much tougher and trump needs a different configuration of states to get the magic 207. host: resources being spent by alonempaigns -- this week , democratic groups are spending $4.1 million on ads for hillary clinton. republican groups spending $1.8 million on ads for donald trump. let's talk about the makeup of pennsylvania voters. this from the census bureau's electorate profile. pennsylvania is whiter than average, a rust belt state with lots of blue-collar workers. aren't these traditionally a demographic makeup that republicans do well in? guest: certainly in the last several election cycles, that had been true. you go back a couple of decades, they were solidly democratic.

these blue-collar workers, many of them live in two regions of our state come in the southwestern part where coal and iron and steel production were the centerpiece of the pennsylvania economy and they helped produce the great industrial revolution. , manyy went into decline of the families in those areas lost their jobs. subsequently had to pick up employment and work that did not pay what the previous jobs paid. these are the groups of voters that donald trump, white working-class voters who earn with high school educations or less, that is donald trump's strongest cohort. he does very well in

southwestern pennsylvania, the area i just mentioned. he does very well in the northeastern part of our state once anthracite coal dominated the economy. a fairly large proportion of the pennsylvania electorate, about 40% of the electorate overall in our country. , in six of the key southwestern counties, each one of them has a democratic but a registration -- but a registration -- voter registration. these are the so-called reagan democrats. we still use that terminology. solid group of's supporters. the rust belt, pennsylvania, ohio, michigan and wisconsin