school polling place as the ideal location because many of them are in fact better access. i think those are issues that are very much within the concern of the commission and of the election officials we have been dealing with. covered a lot of ground today and i think we did have this conversation even longer. we have 12 more days until the election. i would like to thank the commissioners and the secretaries. [applause] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016]

announcer: as we leave this discussion president obama established a commission on election administration in 2013 to identify best practices and election administration and make recommendations that would improve the voting experience. less than a year later they gave the president the report and

expressed increases in technology and early voting and data sharing. the video library has programs on the recommendations and you can find that at www.c-span.org. on our road to the white house coverage on c-span 2, donald trump holds a rally in c-span -- springfield, ohio. polls show he has a slim lead or is tied with hillary clinton. that is at 1:00 p.m. eastern. hillary clinton and first lady michelle obama in winston salem, north carolina. polls show her with a slight lead. that is at 2:00 p.m. eastern. a look at some of the ads from both campaigns. ♪ >> our children. they look up to us. what we value, how we treat others. now they are looking to see what

kind of leaders we choose. who we will entrust our country and their future to. will it be the one respected around the world are the one who frightens our allies and emboldens our enemies? the one with the deep understanding of the challenges we face, or the one who is unprepared for them? a steady hand or a loose cannon? common sense and unity or drama and division? a woman who spent her life helping children and families or a man who spent his life helping himself? .ur children are looking to us what example will we set? what kind of country will we be? hillary clinton, because we are stronger together. hillary clinton: i am hillary clinton and i approve this message. far too many families today do not earn what they need and get what they deserve. i believe they deserve quality

education for their kids, childcare they can trust and afford, equal pay for women and jobs they can really live on. people asked me, what will be different if i am president? kids and families have been the passion of my life and they will be in the heart of my presidency . i am hillary clinton and i approve this message. >> what is at stake of the selection? it is not just to goes here, it is who rules here. the supreme court, the justice who guaranteed your right to hold the gun is gone. now the next president choice breaks the tide. for supreme court justices support your right to own a gun for self-defense, four justices would take away your right. >> the second amendment is outdated. >> your right to express a gun is clearly not a fundamental right. >> what does the second amendment mean to you? >> it is not the right of an individual to keep again next to his bed. >> when it comes to guns, we

just have too many guns. the supreme court is wrong on the second amendment. 7 hillary has made her choice, now you get to make yours. the nra team for legislative action is responsible for the content of this advertising. announcer: the los angeles times writes today that independent presidential candidate evan mcmullin has a chance to win utah, six electoral votes on november 8. it says it would make him the first candidate outside the two major parties to win a state since george wallace in 1968. he has cast his campaign is a start of a new conservative movement offering claims that the post election identity crisis that awaits the gop. -- "we may have to

start something else." he and his running mate talk about their campaign in this interview. evan mcmullin is an independent presidential candidate and mindy finn is a vice presidential candidate both joining us from salt lake city. >> let me begin with you by the numbers, how many states are you on the ballot and how many do you qualify for right in votes and had you try to get to 270 electoral votes. mr. mcmullin: we will appear on the ballot of 11 states and will be registered as a right in in a number of others that will total, including the ballots where we appear on the ballot 43-45 states by election day. the vast majority of americans will be able to cast a vote for us. the reality is reaching 270

votes on november 8 will be very difficult given the fact that we are a three-month residential campaign and as a result of also related circumstances. our strategy is different, that is not our strategy, our strategy is to win as many states as we can in the hopes that if the election is close between hillary clinton and donald trump we could block them both and prevent them also from gaining the majority in the electoral college, that 270 vote threshold and in that case the election would go to the house of representatives where we like our chance. states, utah, where you are today has not voted for a democrat since 1964 and yet with governor mike pence campaigning there today as part ticket it ispence very much in play. why? ms. finn: utah is a conservative state and donald trump is no conservative. he was liberal on abortion,

health care, the second amendment. he changed those positions to run as a republican. in the primary in utah they rejected donald trump with concerns about him from the beginning. it is impacting their view on the republican party, more so than republicans, they are conservative. we are the only conservative ticket in the race. we are standing on principle, constitutional principles, that is why they are advocating toward our campaign. gopeep divisions within the come a lot of questions, what happens after the election. let me go back to your earlier point. what rolled a you and your running mate to play and where do you see the future of the gop heading? mr. mcmullin: we definitely believe our role will be as part of a new conservative movement, the very movement we are building here as part of the election. the question is, what role will the movement play. possibility and we believe the republican party may reform after the election. having both had to rest

experience with the -- having both had direct experience with the party, we know how difficult it is a believe these are challenges the party will face on a generational basis. it is very difficult to imagine the republican party will be aftero shake off trumpism the election. these problems existed before donald trump entered the race and we knew about them after 2012 in the party was not able to adapt and now that trump has had the success he has him even if he loses badly in the general election, the people supporting him are empowered and will be empowered even after the election. thereality is we believe conservative movement may need to take the form of a new political party. those ofply true that us who are constitutional conservatives who believe that all men and women are created equal and we all have inalienable rights to life, liberty, and the secret of happiness and the government

should be limited and only derives power from the people and no other source. those of us with a fundamental belief of these things can no -- in no way support a party that goes down the road of white nationalism. if that is what the republican party will be there is no way mindy and i can be a part of that and we have millions of people supporting us, many of whom feel the same way. >> are you saying we could see a new political party, a republican party divided basically and half, the creation of a new party? mr. mcmullin: i think that is very much a possibility. >> let me go back to this idea of trump-ism. not only donald trump, but 13 million voters in the primaries supporting him. if there is a base within the gop were the trump message has resonated. what do you say to those voters? ms. finn: i say that their frustration, some of it is

well-founded in that they have been left behind. we have an economy that has been transformed because of economy and due to automation many of them have lost their jobs are facing wage stagnation. the party for too long has been to focus on those who write the big checks are not the base of people voting for them. that frustration is very real. however, donald trump while being a loud and bombastic voice is one that is really just using them for his own political power . he has been a liberal for all of his a dark -- adult life and he is tearing our country apart and undermine democracy by demeaning hispanics, african-american, women, people with disability. we are being ripped apart by a man who demeans those groups and calls into question whether our democracy is rigged. people are turning on each other and the republican party is falling apart and there is no body anymore for conservative

values. we need to think about the future and that is what we represent is this new generation of leadership who understands that the concerns of those voters who gravitated toward donald trump, who like the fact that he talked directly and plainly to them, but we have a positive vision and one that can unite the country and not one that will tear us apart. >> evan mcmullin, what will the headline be the day after the election. who wins the presidency in who wins the house and the senate? mr. mcmullin: you are asking me to do something very difficult, of course. i believe that the polls probably reflect the accurate state of the race and that hillary clinton is dominating donald trump very strongly. i would accept, sadly, her to win and be our next president. whether it is her or donald trump i think they are both people who want to grow the size of government and do not respect our constitution in the way

mindy and i believe it should be . that is what i think the outcome will be at the presidential level. i believe republicans will likely hold onto the house and the senate is less certain. it is hard to predict, but i think donald trump is definitely making it more difficult for republicans to hold onto the senate and for them to hold onto them up -- hold onto the margin they have had a house. >> evan mcmullin, mindy finn, independent presidential and vice presidential candidate on the phone in salt lake city, utah. thank you for being with us. ms. finn: thank you for having us. mr. mcmullin: thank you. brings more-span debates from key u.s. house, senate, governor races. tonight at 8:00 eastern, republican senator kelly ayotte and maggie hassan debate for the new hampshire senate seat at a 9:00 the iowa senate debate between senator chuck grassley

and democrat patty judge. -- 0:00, republican friday night at 8:00 eastern, the georgia senate debate between republican senator johnny isakson, jim barksdale, and libertarian allen buckley and just before 9:00, democratic congressman rick nolan and stuart mills debate for minnesota's eighth district seat. at 9:30, the debate in colorado between mike coffman and democrat morgan carroll. saturday night at 10:00 on c-span, pennsylvania senate debate between pat toomey and katie mcginty. at 11:00, democrat -- the net have your governor's race. at midnight on c-span, the north carolina governors debate between cap mccrory, rory

cooper, and libertarian lawn cecil -- ron cecil. watch key debates from house, senate, governor races on the c-span networks, www.c-span.org, and listen on the c-span radio app. where history unfolds daily. announcer: in the florida senate race, marco rubio and patrick murphy debate social security, the health care law, the supreme court middle east policy and community police relations among other items. state and national polls since the 10th of this month, if senator rubio and average lead of about three points. bf 25 newsa wp special presentation. live from the campus of broward .ollege, this is decision 2016 made possible by the financial

support of leadership florida, the press association, aarp, the claude deborah foundation, florida realtors, the league of southeastern credit unions and affiliates, and the children's movement of florida. here is your moderator, todd mcdermott. welcome.vening and to our national audience on c-span. our panelists tonight, neil brown editor and as president for the tampa bay times, patricia am a writer for the miami herald. and the rules are quite simple tonight, each candidate has 90 seconds to answer a question at all rebuttals and follow-ups are 30 second responses. me.moderator, that is by coin toss, congressman murphy has the opening statement. congressman murphy: thank you for being here this evening.

i decided to get involved in public service because i was tired of the name-calling, fingerprinting -- finger-pointing and bickering. one of my greatest achievements is working with republicans and democrats to help authorize nearly $2 billion of funding to the everglades. i have worked across party lines to bring together 200 members of congress to ensure we prevent cuts to medicare advantage. i am proud of the legislation passed to help lower flood insurance rates for floridians and help such as farmers dealing with draining. these are colleges are in stark contrast to my opponent who does not even show up to work. senator rubio has the worst voting record from any senator from florida in nearly 50 years. he has gone on to endorse donald trump, the man by his own account he does not trust with the nuclear codes and that is four major's newspapers endorsed me, including the miami herald week as they know i will show up to work each and every day for the people of florida. thank you.

>> sen. rubio:. sen. rubio: thank you everyone for being here, here is the choice. this election is a clear choice. it is a choice between someone and myself proud of six years and senate and nine years on florida legislator. i have real concrete achievements i have been able to do on the -- on behalf of the state of florida. the central at the gates -- everglades planning process past because i was able to convince a key collie to change his mind to become a supporter. today, americans around the world is for it -- leverage to make sure we take care of human trafficking. slumlords in jacksonville in riviera beach are under investigation because of the nelson on and senator them. time and again i have proven i have -- i can get things done and i encourage voters to compare that to congressman

murphy's record. he cited examples of achievements, they are not true and you will or he is been there for four years and no one has noticed. this is a clear record and a clear difference. that is the choice between voters. a are too important to have senator who does not know how to get things done. i do and i will. senateleman a major beer campaigns has been targeted by one primary criticism. we will allow you to address that directly. congressman murphy i will start with you. you have or p dooley been attacked during this campaign as someone who has padded his resume. you set your work as a cpa for a small business as reasons you would be a good senator although you never became a licensed cpa and ran a business with your father for less than six months. explain why this experience qualifies you for the work in the u.s. senate? sogressman murphy: i am

grateful for political act, an independent fact checking agency that has gone through these allegations. the claims thrown out by senator rubio has been debunked. i am a cpa, i got my license in 2009 by one of nine cpas in the house of representatives. if elected to the senate, i would be the second cpa in the history of our country to serve their. if you look at the fiscal house i think we could use a few more cpas. i am proud of my small business experience to help prevent the oil coming down and potentially coming down our west coast. i am proud and would be quite a willing to put up my experience as a cpa and in the small business sector against our opponent who has been a lobbyist his entire career. we need changes and senator rubio has been lockstep with special issue scripts. he has done nothing but do the bidding for special interest

groups. we all know he never shows up to work, but when he does he has a 98% voting record with the koch brothers, a right-wing special interest group. i believe we can do more and i am proud of my competence because they have all been bipartisan in nature. i have been able to bring home money to help with research procedures farmers, bringing home money to help develop -- ever great. veterans with the backlog. i will continue reaching across the aisle to solve these problems and help the people of florida. todd: senator rubio, you said in last week's debate that you will serve a full six-week term in the u.s. senate god willing. he used that qualifier before times. you know you said the prayer and convinced you following the pulse nightclub shootings that this race was one you needed to be an. is god willing a way out in case

prayer causes you to change your mind? sen. rubio: it is something i always say. while man plans the steps, god plans the course. on november 9 the sun will rise and the creator of the universe will still be sitting on the throne and everything that happens will be ordered by him. i always use that come it is not a qualifier, it is what i believe. let me address what congressman murphy said because i think he is living up to his reputation embellish her. he did not run because he was a cpa, he told people his experience as a cpa would make .im a good senator in florida he does not have a license to be a cpa. he still does not have a florida cpa license. he talked again today about how he helped clean up the oil spill. he did not. independent fact checkers confirmed he did not have a

single contract to do so. you make things up because you do not have anything real to point to. he talked about $2 billion he was able to get for the everglades. those were projects in the water bill that were suggested by the army corps of engineer's a long time ago and he had no -- nothing to do with them being in the bill. he docked about saving medicare advantage recently, he did not do anything except sign on to a letter. he did not save medicare advantage. he is no record of achievement and i occurred people to compare that with the things i have done in my nine years in tallahassee. there are sanctions today on hezbollah because of a bill i passed. on and on. congressman murphy: if you voted as much as you lied you might actually be a decent senator. you continue to throw out these lies. the have all been debunked by political. i have -- i am proud of what i have accomplished and ready to

put that up to your record. we were already asked this question about your comments about not running for office. let's rewind a little bit. you said 10,000 times was your quote that you are not going to run for senate again. the day before qualifying you throw your name back in and it takes you for months to finally admit to the voters that you want this job. it took you for months to do that and all the sudden the polls are dead tied and he will like you again and say he will serve a full term. >> i want to let the senator respond. congressman murphy: the reason he keeps --sen. rubio: the reason he gives bringing this up is because it would've been easier for him to win if i had not changed my mind. we are now 10 minutes into the debate and you've been given to chances to talk about your achievements any do not have any. you have been there four years and it is like it never happened. florida is the third-largest state in the country, a key

state. virtually every major issue before america has a presence here. we cannot afford to have someone in the u.s. senate that after four years in congress has never gotten anything done. i encourage people to compare that to my record of getting things done bill after bill, law after law. being the referee is no good, they did not even give me a whistle. we have so much to cover and we are 10 minutes and. the next question begins with you senator. you said you would favor increasing the retirement age to 70 for future retirees and you are telling workers younger than 55 they will have to work three extra years. that is correct. sen. rubio: that is not correct. the age is already going up incrementally. someone like me, 45, after this year i feel 46, but i am 45. i would say that instead of retiring at 607i would have to retire at 67.5.

nothing would change for people who are retired or about to retire. my mother is -- she requires -- not want to change anything for people on it now or near retirement. for younger workers there will have to be smaller changes or it will not exist. these programs are going bankrupt. anyone who tell you we can leave it the way it is is lying to you and the longer we wait to address this reality, the likelier it will be we may have to disrupt programs for people already retired. medicare and social security is critical for floridians, my mother, people in my family. i want it to survive and thrive and to be there when i retire and my children retire and for americans on and on. it will not be if we continue on this course. todd: senator murphy cap -- congressman murphy, you say you

are against cutting social security. what will you do to protect it? congressman murphy: there is a .tark contrast between us i believe social security and medicare are two of the top achievements in our countries history. money.the my opponent has taken millions and millions of dollars from special interest groups that want to dismantle these programs, which explains why he said social security and ened use have "weak as a people." sen. rubio:'s the put your money in wall street and privatize it and turned medicare into a voucher program. further.disagree i say we need to strengthen the programs and i have introduced a bill called the save benefits andto give seniors arrays helps with cost-of-living adjustment and by raising the cap we can ensure these programs are not only for current seniors, but my generation and younger because i have to be

protected. aboutubio: the comment taking from our people is as true as the cpa licenses, it is just not true. if you think about social security, it was designed when we have 16 workers for every retiree and now we are down to three workers for every retiree and soon it will be down to two workers for every retiree. everyone, including a legend cpas should be able to do the math and realized quickly that this program is in trouble. i do not want to dismantle social security and medicare. had you explain that to voters or my mother who is on social security and medicare? i want to say that an improvement for people on it now. there will have to be changes to the way it works for future beneficiaries in my generation and the congressman's generation. >> i will offer a rebuttal opportunity. it is then murphy:

programs you supported, it is the ryan bell, privatizing social security and turning medicare into a voucher program. that dismantles these programs and is a huge change. it is not just what you are saying right now on the stage, it is what you have done as a senator and that should be scary to our seniors. we can do more to ensure these programs will be there for years to come. sen. rubio: that is false. i do not support privatizing social security. i do not support privatizing social security and i do not support turning medicare into a voucher. i support turning it into a choice among which it is now in many ways. medicare advantage which you claim to have saved from cuts and you did not of course is a choice program. it allows people to decide whether they want to stay on medicare or a provider. i want more people to have that option. letressman murphy: we will fact checkers into this one.

>> we will move yesterday, we learned premiums for many under the care act expected to rise an average of 25% next year. that is awfully steep. you said he would support changes to the law. can you be specific about what needs to be done to reduce premiums? rep. murphy: there is no question the affordable care act was a huge step forward for the country. the question is getting it right across the aisle to make sure we are fixing it. so that we have more coverage for more people that is more affordable. but you have to show up to work and be willing to reach across the aisle. senator rubio has spent the last six years trying to undermine this legislation. he wants to take us back to the days where you could get chopped -- dropped from your health

insurance plaintiff got sick, where you could be denied coverage if you had a pre-existing condition, where women were being charged more than men because they were women. or seniors being charged more for prescription drugs. that is what he wants to take us back to. now he's going to tell us about the risk corridors. that should be renamed the florida premium increase. that is why many health experts have said our health insurance rates are going up. i don't know why he brags about this. it has made it more expensive for you all. i believe that we can expand medicaid. that means 900,000 people in florida will have access to affordable health care. we should be pushing that our government is negotiating with pharmaceutical companies. i believe we can do more to grow from the waste, fraud, and abuse in our system. we should be looking at a public option, especially in rural

areas. one of the major premises of the affordable care act is that there was more competition. more people fighting to ensure you. you need to that competition. todd: let us ask senator rubio. you have repeatedly vowed to repeal obama care. today, 20 million more americans are insured then when you ran for office the first time. if you repealed the affordable care act what will you do , tomorrow for the people who have health insurance today? sen. rubio: first of all, it is not a risk corridor, it is a bailout. let me talk about obamacare. one of the ways obama administration cut the big insurance companies to support it is that they put a provision that said, if you guys lose money under obamacare, we are going to bell you out and we are

going to use taxpayer money. and yes, i am proud that we got rid of that. why should we use taxpayer money to bailout private insurance companies making millions of dollars in profits? why should you be bailing out private insurance companies? i want congressman murphy to answer why that is the right thing for our country. why should any of us, why should taxpayers be bailing out private insurance companies? what should we do instead of obamacare? the not want to go that to old system. the old system didn't work. he did not have an answer on a plan. his plan is, i want to make obamacare even bigger. here is a better approach. number one, if your employer wants to give you money, we will give you health care money, you can use it to buy any plan have , to pay taxes on that money. i want to get rid of that. when an employer decides to give you money to buy your health care, you can do so tax free. of course they can continue to buy it for you. if that's not available i want a fully refundable tax credit to buy health insurance from any

company in america across state lines of insurance you want. people that find it difficult to afford insurance because they have pre-existing conditions that ultimately made them uninsurable. that is a much better approach than the system we have now when you are forcing people itno obamacare. todd: rebuttal? rep. murphy: i am glad you brought up the high risk pools. that plan you just proposed has been tried in 35 states and has failed in all 35 states. billions ofdds dollars, makes it more expensive, and adjust people from their plans. that is of course the talking point given to him by the koch brothers another interest groups. that plan does not work. they did not know who was going to sign up, how risky they were

going to be. what health care problems that were going to have because of the legislation, we do have a spike. because of your legislation, we have more. it is because of you that floridians are paying more. as you are bragging. sen. rubio: congressman murphy should answer the question i asked. why is it right for the american taxpayer to bail out insurance companies? they are making profit records. rep. murphy: i'm talking about the people, not the companies. sen. rubio: these companies would participate in obamacare with the promise that if they lost money, the taxpayer would -- would bail them out. said that you can't feel the knot with taxpayer money. to tell you the lawlessness of this administration, they are going to the insurance committees and say, don't worry, just sue us.

you will get a default judgment against us. this is an outrage. todd: we're going to move to the supreme court. this is for both of you. we begin with congressman murphy. the next president will send several supreme court nominees to the senate for confirmation. what criteria is important to confirm a nominee from a president of the opposing party? rep. murphy: the constitution is pretty clear on this one. his is the president -- it is nominatedent's role to a supreme court justice, and it is the senate's job to confirm that individual. i think this is one of the most important jobs of being a u.s. senator. it is critical whoever the choices understands the constitution. they will follow the rule of law.

and they will be able to make sure that is played out fairly and equitably for everyone in our country. this is one of the areas i think is pretty disturbing to a lot of americans. the senate has not acted. the senate has not even had a hearing on merritt garland. by all accounts he is as qualified as anybody we have ever had to be in the supreme court. yet there has not been hearing. senator rubio is not even taken the time to meet with merrick garland. i guess he's too busy running for president, but he did not even ask these simple questions. the american people are so frustrated with congress. they are mad at the house, the senate, republicans and democrats. i don't think they ever expected that the dysfunction in the house whatever bleed over to the supreme court. the supreme court isn't even taking up certain cases because they know it is going to be a tie. that is a complete unnecessary course of action, and all of is of the obstructionist tea party republicans like senator rubio that care more about their own ambitions than getting things done for the people of florida.

todd: senator rubio? sen. rubio: it isn't that the person understands the role of the supreme court in this country. i do not care what justice' personal views are. let me tell you the proper role of the supreme court is not -- it is not to write laws. that is the job of the legislative branch. the proper role of the supreme court is to take the case and apply the constitution according to its original meaning. what do those words mean to the people who wrote them? if you don't like what the constitutional says, we have an constitutional amendment process. that is the way you change the constitution. what i care about, my number one criteria, they are all smart people that went to ivy league schools. but do they understand the proper role of the court? if the people on that court are

not those that understand the proper role, we will lose our own constitution. the court is to apply that according to its original meaning. that is the singular criteria i will use in evaluating any nomination for my the president. todd: we are going to move on to my colleague from "the miami herald." >> nearly half a million people have died in the five year civil war in syria. many people fleeing their homes led to a refugee crisis and opened the door to isis. you voted against u.s. airstrikes in syria in 2015. would you vote to commit u.s. ground troops to join the rebel fight? the situation is much more difficult to solve that it was four years ago. president to choose to pursue a route.

let's find people we can work with and let's ensure they are the best equipped, has trained on the ground. it will lead to a vacuum. it will be filled in syria like every is filled and the middle east. the president chose not to pursue. as a result, moderate groups declined to their capabilities creating the vacuum for isis to , emerge as they crossed up from iraq and the situation we find ourselves in today. the bottom line is this -- our interest in syria are singular. that is to ensure that it is not a safe haven for radical islamist to take root and plan attacks against the u.s. and our interest around the world. if any president comes forward with a plan that works that could achieve that aim, i would consider it. i do not believe it would require ground troops. i believe ground troops would be counterproductive. i think the u.s. should be more in the furtherance of that plan.

that is not what the president was proposing. basically a symbolic strike to send a message, but not backed up by a clear plan. i articulated what we should have been doing instead. this president has failed to do so and left a vacuum that is now filled by radical islamists, iran, and vladimir putin. the result is we have less influence than we did four years ago. rep. murphy: there's no question that things have become more complicated in syria. the people spoke out five years ago that they wanted to have a small voice. at least some say in their government. since then, what have we sing? assad has done nothing but on hisin use chemical own people. we have to make it abundantly clear that assad must leave power. what we're seeing is a more complicated situation

developing. as a member of the house intelligence committee, it is critical we unite to ensure this problem doesn't get any worse. what we're seeing now is vladimir putin getting more and more involved behind assad, continuing to boost him up. i believe it is our alliances that will help bring assad down. how do we do that? it is these alliances. those alliances that will give us the strength, the choice of donald trump wants to tear of those alliances. that will not strengthen us. senator rubio has lost credibility by supporting donald trump in this election. donald trump, we all know, has millions of dollars in financial ties to putin, thinks he is " a strong leader" and wants to tear up the very alliances that will be sure we get rid of assad. it is pretty confusing to me, especially someone on the house intelligence committee that knows how precarious this situation is.

and knows how dangerous vladimir putin's involvement is. a couple points. secretary clinton was the secretary of state when these situations for going on. i disagree with donald trump and have repeated twice he is wrong on these issues. i am not sure which alliance you are talking about. for example, the united states today is working with kurds, creating incredible strength for -- strain between us and our turkish allies. which alliance are you talking about? the syrian kurds, or the one with the turks? this is a situation the present has put us in. he put us in this situation because he has no credibility with the turks and the syrian kurds. these are the consequences of a --failed foreign policy. we have less influence in syria as the result result of broken

for policy of barack obama much of what was instituted when secretary clinton was in the state department. rep. murphy: it is important to note how many factions are involved, whether that is the kurds, peshmerga, russia, hezbollah, the moderate rebel forces that we have not tried to our in many ways. i think it's important to talk about them. senator rubio and i know how complicated it is. we both know that donald trump cannot name or identify any of those groups or their involvement, yet you continue to support donald trump, who we have seen 16 u.s. senators not endorse him., but un they know how dangerous he is to our country. you have to be able to stand up to people like donald trump if you care about our national -- but you criticize

someone for not knowing the people in the region. the peshmerga are not in the region. they are iraqi. rep. murphy: the same point, senator rubio continues to support donald trump. it goes back to the same point. it is shameful that he stands there with him when you know that trump does not know any of this. we are seeing what is happening in mosul. donald trump is something that mosul is a failed plan. we have to continue working with all of the various factions we get along with. we haven't had any action, and have not had leaders willing to stand up. i will stand up to anybody, whether they are republican or democrat, to do what i think is best. todd: we have other issues i know that you want both want to

get to. take a breath. take a drink of water. we are going to take a quick break and come back. again, we will return in just a moment. >> now back to decision 2016, the u.s. senate debate live from broward college. here is wpfb news anchor todd mcdermott. todd: i will ask our audience to retake their seats. i promise, just 30 minutes left. everybody gets to talk. we will go to a question for both candidates. >> the president for one of the departments has apologized for mistreatment by police against blacks and hispanics. that mistrust justified, and what can you do about it in the senate?

sen. rubio: i believe the overwhelming majority of men and women in law enforcement do an extraordinary job for country. and if there is danger we will call them and they will show up not knowing what is on the other side of the call and we have seen far too many cases of women and men, our police officers who have lost their lives protecting us. on the other hand it is , impossible to ignore that there are many communities in this country, predominantly minority communities who do have a terrible relationship with police departments and a huge level of mistrust and i talked about this and i talked about it for months even during the presidential campaign about people know personally. one of them is a police officer who had been pulled over numerous times with the explanation and he was resentful and did not know how to explain it to his son and he was upset. when you hear the stories you understand that and you can understand while at the same time honoring the men and women who serve us in uniform. here's the bottom line, with the

agree with what i just said, if a significant percentage of the american family feel they are treated differently because of the color of their skin we have , a problem and it needs to be addressed. one of the thing with done, it is important to talk about that there is that such thing as the police department, there are multiple law enforcement agencies and the thousand. for example, the sheriff of deval patrick, the have a great program and a pretty good relationship with their communities. other places need to improve. the one thing i have been in support of -- supportive of is creating grants for smaller law enforcement up arms to be able to afford body cameras. i believe that is in the best interest of the officers and the community. >> you say you have a criminal justice reform plan if you get elected but what have you done as a house member to show floridians in law enforcement that you have cared about this and minority communities that you have cared about this issue

rep. murphy: the vast majority of sheriffs and law enforcement are dedicated, brave men and women, putting their lives in the line for all of us each and we day but there is also no question that there has been a breakdown in trust in so many of our communities. just in the past several months in my congressional district, there've been terrible 2 tragedies. one young man named corey jones, he was my age who was a drummer in his church band every sunday chiefly. he was on his way home and his car broke down and minutes later he was shot and killed by a police officer. another young man named demarcus seymour, unarmed ends up getting , shot and killed by police officers. i have had a chance to worship and pray and get to know these families and see how not only does this care part of community it tears apart the family and we , have to do more and we must make sure that we are building more trust and i have introduced

the trust act that will help build more trust between the police officers and the communities that they are serving. and i believe we have to make sure that all of law enforcement has the resources they need for things like body cameras so we know exactly what happened. we are getting more transparency with more technology and we have to make sure that all law enforcement has this but what we cannot do is have presidential candidates like donald trump who is the -- most racist, bigoted people to run for office and they are espousing this hatred which is ripping apart our communities and we deserve better than that. sen. rubio: may i respond? the answer to every answer is donald trump. i am paraphrasing. paraphrasing the vice president that someone else's platform is a noun and a verb and now donald trump. that is his answer to everything. we do have a breakdown at the

community level. it is a deep breakdown and in , many committees the force they put forth does not reflect the community that they are supposed to be protecting. a lot of law enforcement agencies are recognizing that. they are realizing that there are deeper issues we have to confront. one the things i am proud of is children's zones modeled after the harlem children's zone's, and has spread to orlando in jacksonville. it goes into inner cities and delineates a geographic area and says we're going to do everything we can to help people living in this area to overcome the challenges they face. here is what we do know. if a child is born in a broken family and substandard housing -- rep. murphy: i did introduce a criminal justice plan and i worked with it with senator cory booker and in developing this plan i can tell you how frustrated senator ocher was with senator rubio for not setting on his legislation which

has overwhelming bipartisan support and there are some common sense provisions that help with recidivism and ensure that folks who have done enough time to make sure they can get back in a workforce and vote, and they have the education for the jobs of tomorrow. commonsense things that we can do to make sure everyone has an opportunity but senator rubio did not support the plan. sen. rubio: number i am in favor one, of criminal justice reform. i am not in favor of rolling back the reforms that have bad people fory a long time and keeping them from being on the streets and harming people. do i believe a lot of people are being arrested for crimes that they should be diverting? absolutely. if you are 18 years old and you are arrested for a minor offense and you cannot afford a private attorney, you are assigned a public defender and that public defender as cases they are 4000 handling so they convince you to plead guilty and now you have a record and now you can

cannot get into the military, you cannot find a job, absolutely. for first-time offenders we should be doing more to divert the amount of the system but that is largely at the state level. it is under state laws they are getting prosecuted. i am not going to let a bunch of dangerous people out on the street. >> the economy. florida is doing better than most when it comes to job growth but wages as we know are generally stagnant. a recent study by bloomberg news showed miami and tampa among the 10 worst cities in america when it comes to the income gap between the haves and have-nots. what ideas do each of you have to get more for liberty and a pay raise? thank you.: that's a critical question. and no question that we have made some strides over the past several years. there are far too many people that are still being left out. as i traveled the state, i hear

the same story, people are telling me they have not had a reason 15 years, that their child has $50,000 in student debt and still cannot get a job. or their mom cannot afford their prescription drugs and they tell me, they read about the economic recovery but they are not , feeling it. far too many people have been sot out of this recovery we've got to do more. i believe that starts off with investing more in education, from pre-k to phd programs and there should not be a difference in the quality of education depending on what neighborhood you are from. we should be investing more in infrastructure. there is $2.5 trillion offshore, why in the world are we not bringing that money back and investing it into good middle-class paying jobs? why are we not raising the minimum wage? we have to address our tax code as well. we have to address our overly burdensome migratory environment and these are commonsense things that i think we can solve and help our economy. when senator rubio was asked about one of these ideas, the minimum wage, his quote was that

it was a waste of time. there are hundreds of thousands of people living on minimum wage and i believe that we can do more to help them out because anybody that is willing to work a full-time job in this country should not be living in poverty. we know that you think being a senator is a waste of time which is why you miss 41% of your votes, more than anybody else while running for president but the differences you got paid 100% of your salary when you are missing those votes. those folks on minimum wage, they are not getting paid. there's a huge difference. you have to show up and roll up your sleeves and be willing to work across the aisle. sen. rubio: i find it ironic i am being lectured by the plight of the working class by millionaire who inherited his money lecturing the son of working-class immigrants who inherited no money. i understand clearly what people are going through. it is not just the wage gap, it is the cost of living that continues to rise, it is basic access to the internet. you cannot do homework if you do not have access to the internet. data plans are out of control.

phones are catching fire. i appreciate the indictment of the obama academy. you talk about more jobs being created, they do not pay enough especially due to the cost of living. what creates better paying jobs? we are living through a rapid and dynamic economic transformation. america today is not globally competitive. we have one of the highest business tax rates on the plan. we have over $2.8 trillion of american corporate cash parked overseas, $2.8 trillion, larger than the size of the entire russian economy. we have regulations that are out of control making america a more , expensive place to do business. we have to become more competitive by rolling back taxes especially on small business and by rolling back the regulatory burden. we need to begin to diversify

our educational choices. it is not just have to be a four-year degree, we need more vocational training, something i have worked out since my time in the legislature. we need more alternatives to traditional higher education and i have a detailed bipartisan plan that i have worked with with numerous senators that would create options for single mother who has worked for years, for example, as a receptionist that wants to become a paralegal. we need to allow more dual enrollment allowing high schools , to use programs to go to a committee college and graduate certified and ready to work as a plumber, electrician, or pipefitter. these are important measures. what senator rubio laid out is the same failed trickle-down economics, more tax breaks for the millionaires and and the largest corporations. you might have forgot my family story because we've all got them. my dad never graduated from college. he was a union carpenter and a union labor, worked every single day out of the back of his pickup truck to build a family

business, to build the business to provide for his family and the number one thing that he taught me was hard work. showing up to work, something that we all know you forgot. senator it is important to note , who you are fighting for a now because you are fighting for the millionaires and billionaires and the largest corporations. you are against raising the minimum wage and protecting social security and medicare. sen. rubio: i admire your father story but that is not your father's story that is not your , story. you have not worried a day and a -- in your life about where your next check will come through. i do want to increase people's wages by my idea for wage enhancement which is better than minimum wage increase. we have learned a could eliminate between 500,000 and 600,000 jobs. you make more expensive than machines, they will be replaced by machines. it is already happening. in less than five years the majority of these fast food restaurants will not have people

at that window, it will be a touchscreen. we do want to help workers with the skills they need to find a better paying job for the 21st century. the outdated ideas you are proposing made people more exempt. >> thank you, senator. this next question is for both of you. for the first time ever, the u.s. abstained from the u.n. resolution vote against the u.s. embargo on cuba. that is history making. samantha power said it is history making and shows that the world is against us when it comes to the embargo. i will start with you, congressman murphy. you said you would support targeted sanctions against members of the cuban government. you did not say where you stand on the trade embargo. would you vote to lift the embargo on cuba? rep. murphy: we did get a chance to talk about this in our last debate and i will tell you the same story i told last time. i know this is a very personal

situation for many people and i have some cuban relatives, some are here this evening. i have talked to them at length about this. i understand this is personal but i also believe we have had a policy in place for over 50 years that has not worked. it has only empowered the castro regime. i want to help the cuban people and i do not believe that anybody does democracy like america. let's make sure we are providing more opportunity for those cuban people. would we rather see our own cruise ships royal caribbean and , carnival in havana or would we rather see russian spy ships their? and we can do more to protect our country and help the cuban people out. i would continue to ensure that we have targeted sanctions against the castro regime and those have terrible human rights violations. believe we need to move toward normalization. i do not believe we cannot do this overnight but we have to continue down that road to help the cuban people. sen. rubio: what the president

did two weeks ago further remove sanctions. members of the communist party and the government in cuba are eligible for remittances for the first time in our history. there's a not targeted sanctions, that is a massive opening in exchange for nothing in return. what happened at the u.n. today is nothing short of lawlessness. that is the law of the united states and the refusal of this administration to enforce that and stand up for that is lawlessness. if you do not like the policy, work to change it, i know that is what they are trying to do but i will tell you you can just ignore the law the way this administration habitually does. as for the opening is concerned, cruise ships? an invasion of cruise ships will bring democracy to cuba? it is not. the cuban government is a dictatorship. we have made over two years of concession after concession. they have not taken a quarter step toward democracy. by the way, on the same day the president announced that we were going to be allowing the false -- full sale of cigars and rum,

you know with the cuban government did? they invited the russians to open a base on the island of cuba for the first time in 30 years. this is not working. for every step they took toward democracy, we took a step toward sanctions. this is in all one-way deal and in cuba today, there are still people living there who still -- stole your medicare money. they are fugitives of american justice harbored by the castro government. a cop killer lives there. she murdered a police officer in new jersey. it is a crazy broken deal that , needs to be revisited because it is rewarding the castro regime and asking nothing in return on human rights and the freedom and dignity of the cuban people. rep. murphy: i do appreciate your efforts on cracking down but this weekend donald trump was on a sunday morning show in miami and when asked about violating the cuban embargo, he basically admitted that he did

it. we know this is one of your core issues and i am not trying to be critical because i do respect your position the person you chose to be our next president has basically admitted he violated the embargo. you continue to stand by his side despite this being one of your core initiatives you care about. what will it take for you to not endorse donald trump? is a anything he will do or say? you are criticizing donald trump for position you agree with. rep. murphy: you have no backbone. todd: please refrain. at this moment, moving forward when it comes to cuba, it is important for us to have leverage. the cuban leadership is in their mid-80's. they are not going to be around much longer and our hope is they will be replaced by a new generation of leadership that is open to makes -- making steps forward. there is no precedent in human

history for tourism or full economic engagement as being the sole catalyst for democracy in a country resistant to democracy. the cuban government is not interested in democracy. they are interested in dollars. they want dollars to be able to fund their oppressive regime, they want more money to leave what is in place now permanently and they want us to accept them as a legitimate form of government. i ask you why are the cuban , people the only people in this hemisphere that cannot vote? >> that is your time. this next question goes to both of you. first to congressman murphy. as a reference, last january in a town hall in iowa, you said, we're not going to fix america with senators and congressmen. the fact is it looks like the american people agreed with your statement because this average of six polls this past summer shows almost nine in 10 americans disapprove of the job that congress is doing. that is representatives and

senators. the disapproval is tied to partisan infighting and gridlock and inaction. how and on which issues will you work with the opposing party to affect positive change in america? rep. murphy: thank you for this question. it is this very gridlock that i think is holding this country back more than anything else. one of the first things i did when elected to congress was start a freshman bipartisan group called united solutions. they were to bring 40% of the freshman class together to talk about issues we agreed on rather -- instead of issues we disagreed on. from that group i have been able , to put forth legislation to help get our fiscal house in order. there is a great quote from presidential medical said it is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit. i'm proud of all of my achievements in the congress over the past four years because they have been part -- bipartisan. there have proven my ability to reach across the aisle to get

things done. whether that is working with a congressman in north florida to ensure that veterans are getting the care they need by reducing the backlog or working with congressman posey to pass legislation to help our estuaries that are being devastated by discharges. that legislation was signed into law by the president. hoping to work across the aisle to bring home billions of dollars for the everglades, helping to pass insurance that will help reduce flood insurance rates for floridians. working with congressman rumi -- rennie to help our citrus farmers that are dealing with greening and i will continue to reach across the aisle and soft -- solve problems. and that is in stark contrast to senator rubio i already pointed , out when he shows up to vote votes 98% of the time with the koch brothers. these special interest right wing groups. he is doing the bidding for them in washington, d.c. not you , all. sen. rubio: did you know that daniel ortega has banned me from

traveling to that country? i worked across the aisle and we treasured industry to criticize them for stealing an election. i am barred from traveling to venezuela. i am criticized by their leader. sanctions onimpose all of his cronies surrounded him. hezbollah has criticized me by name. i worked in a bipartisan way to impose sanctions. aid around the world is conditioned on whether countries are doing a good enough job of taking on human trafficking. i was able to work across the aisle. laws and measures that happened because i worked with people across the aisle. your answer is when you got to congress committee started a club called united solutions? we need a lot more than that. we reaction actual results. i ask you again, he keeps pointing back at all the money he got in the budget. he did not. .here were going to happen

he has been in congress for four --rs and has never signed passed a law. i've been in the center for six and i have passed law after law signed by a democrat president. dysfunction, the best example was this year when we needed zika funding. i was the first republican to come forward. i voted for every single zika funding and we finally got it done. that's what we need a washington. yes.murphy: the signature is proven himself ineffective and washing, d c. he just talked about zika. it took eight months to get a bill on zika. the president came out in february talking about how we needed to do something. i started working on this immediately making sure that we , were working with the private sector and nih to make sure we had the resources to fight it

but he has 04 is in getting -- zero influence in getting mitch mcconnell, his leader, to ever bring this up for vote so he has no influence because everyone knows he has one foot out the door. you got to show up to work and get to know your colleagues and i wish you would have come to my bipartisan group because we had numerous leaders to help fight to bring money home for the everglades. todd: i have time for the closing statements and that is it. otherwise we could go all night , with this discussion. the first closing statement goes to congressman murphy. rep. murphy: thank you and thanks to the moderators and thank you, senator rubio. as the miami herald said this election is about courage and senator rubio has failed that test. i am proud of all the endorsements i received from our newspapers. i am proud of the support and received from so many of you because florida deserves a senator that is going to show up to work, someone who will roll up their sleeves and get things done for florida. i have a 97% voting record in congress consistently proving my ability to reach across the

aisle and get things done. think about what is at stake. the supreme court hangs in the balance. the majority in the u.s. senate. there is way too much at stake right now to have a missing senator. we have to do more. i am asking for your vote and your support. if elected to the u.s. senate i , will be the hardest working senator the state has ever had. thank you. sen. rubio: thank you for being here and thank you, congressman murphy. i respect anyone who seeks public office especially in this day and age and i appreciate your candidacy. as i do anyone who steps forward. i think there is a big difference. you talk about courage and politics, there is no courage and politics people people have courage are people who put on a uniform and are willing to die for freedoms and liberties. i am proud of my record and it stands in congress -- in contrast to congressman murphys. an hour into this debate, he has not been able to sauna law that became the longest country

because he had anything to do with it. he talked about zika, senator nelson refuted the argument. in may, the u.s. senate passed the zika funding and i was instrumental in that. i tell you why this is so important, i know that this is an ugly campaign, not ours but in general. this has been a difficult year especially for young people that are voting for the first time. here's what i want you to know, we are going to be ok. we're the greatest country in the history of mankind and we will go through this election and we welcome turn it around and i believe america is great. >> i am so grateful for both of you being here tonight. leaving me 15 seconds to thank you for your service and thank our audience all over florida and across the nation. and the studio audience here at broward college. thank you for being part of democracy. good night. [applause] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]

>> thank you for watching decision 2016, the u.s. senate debate. this debate was made possible by the financial support of leadership florida, the florida press association, broward college, aarp, the black alliance for educational options, the claude pepper foundation, florida realtors, the league of southeastern credit unions and affiliates and the children's movement of florida. >> washington journal has this update. democrats are divided over decision to pull money out of the expensive florida race for cheaper competitive states. not takingd they are hillary clinton's momentum and the sunshine state and geico boost marco rubio future ambitions. ship comes as democrats the in increased chance of gaining the majority they lost two years ago. main of the races they would need to win to recapture are tight.

democrats are diverting the funds into three cheaper states with close senate rates. north carolina, missouri, and indiana. you can read more today. have more now on the florida senate race from this morning' is washington journal. we are back continuing our battleground series of florida. isn us from fort lauderdale dr. susan macmanus. why is floridah about a ground state? -- florida a battleground state? a guest: --ida is guest: florida is a microcosm of the united states. we are a melting pot and our demographics more closely parallel the united states with

race and ethnicity. we are absolutely almost tied in terms of percentage of registered democrats and republicans. 30% democrats and 36% republicans and the rest? no party affiliation. registration is your parity. what is the impact of that on outcomes in the state swinging back and forth? guest: the last three elections , predictor only carried florida by 1%. had -- onlyr only carried florida by 1%. bested romney, he only won by 0.9%.

the grassroots is critical. the swing voters are on the rise . it explains why we're just inundated with television ads and have been. host: the electoral votes, how many? and what does that mean? guest: 29 electoral college votes. we are a powerhouse when it comes to the electoral college. where the third-largest state. -- we are the third-largest state. we are frankly of the big states with a lot of electoral college and by far the most competitive. california leans blue. texas red. new york blue. florida, purple. host: where does the race stand now in florida? guest: just to show you how volatile it is, within the past two days, we had one poll come

out that shows trump was up by two. and another that shows hillary was up by three. take your pick. still a tossup statistically. such an intense battle right now . to make sure that everybody is registered to vote. vote by mail has been happening for a couple of weeks. in person early voting started this week. everybody is reporting daily how many people have turned in their votes, how many people have voted early in person. the real push has been to vote before election day, a push that is being pushed by both the parties and campaigns because they can track who has voted and focus on those who have not. by florida's election supervisors, the last thing that

onceupervisor of elections are long lines on election day they keep florida's results from being affirmed for a couple of days as what happened in 2012. a push everywhere to vote early, either in person or by mail. host: who are these swing voters? the unaffiliated voters they could ship the balance for one of these candidates? guest: the swing voters are swing for a lot of different reasons. many of them are younger. among florida's millennials which are the 18 to 34 years old -- 34-year-olds, a third of them are registered with no party affiliation which explains why both parties have aimed their sights on college campuses. there are also other independence who really are minor party affiliates.

sometimes we lump the two together. libertarians, greens and other minor parties. among those are people who are disaffected. the swing voters are really all over the map, but the largest concentration is the young. in terms of race and ethnicity, there are larger shares of independence among hispanics and asians which of those two populations make up about 15% that's 50% or 60% of florida's registered voters. -- 15% or 16% of florida's red should voters. be eitherors tend to way but sometimes can be

conservative. you have the the graphic of religion in florida. how does that make -- how does that play out? guest: religious makeup in florida is identical to the national makeup. research'sed on your desk research center data -- research center data. it is a perfect mirror. the big change since the last presidential election has been a rise of unaffiliated people, people who do not identify with -- almost the same nationally. they are the young millennials. key parthas not been a of a lot of the discussion in this year's election. a lot of it has to do with the fact that both parties are not -- are recognizing that the millennials who are now

america's largest generation and becoming a powerhouse lyrically, that religion is not some way that you reach them. theur state, based on survey of which i am the director released recently, the number line issue -- the underlying issue is the economy and jobs. taking a backseat to other demographics this timeout. you mentioned the cuban vote which has been solidly republican, but now the younger cubans are leaning more democratic. you cannot say the hispanic vote is all cuban and all republican, because frankly not cuban hispanics outnumber cubans. they leaned heavily toward the democrats. puerto rico's are the big story this timeout. the biggest change in terms of

hispanics since the 2012 election has been a huge influx, because the island's economy has been crashing. many have moved to the central florida area, orlando. more in tampa as well. the two areas, the i-4 corridor, the big story is the influx of puerto ricans. the democrats have been making some inroads there host:. -- inroads there. host: when they moved to florida, what is it like for them to change their residency and vote? person becomes a citizen regardless of whether -- or comes to this country and can cast their vote, it means so much. i have a couple of canadian friends who just became citizens . they are watching everything that comes on television, reading everything. they are so excited to vote.

the same is true with puerto ricans, especially in the orlando area which is the largest concentration of new arrivals. we're seeing them exert power in terms of officers you recently had in the august 30 primaries in florida, three puerto ricans that secured nominations -- one for the u.s. congress, the house, another for a florida senate seat, and another for a florida house seat. their muscle is being exerted not only in terms of voting, but now in office-holding. host: before we get to calls, dr. macmanus, talk about the geography of florida. you mentioned the i-4 corridor -- how does it break down, and what are the areas voters should watch on election night? guest: let's start on the top --

the famous panhandle. from pensacola east toward jacksonville. that is the more conservative part of the state. typically votes republican. several military installations, especially closer to pensacola, othernama city areas, bases there. that is the conservative part of the state. and it is pretty much rural. turnout, 70%,igh 80%, in some of the rural counties in north florida. then, let's go down to southwest florida, which would be naples, collier county, fort myers. that is the most solidly republican part of florida. if you go to the southeast part of the state, that is the most solidly democratic party.

a lot of it explains how people arrived in florida. northeasterners from new york down the east coast and settle in florida. 75 takes equal from the midwest down to the west coast. the interstate highway system has, sort of, helped formulate who lives where. the real, key battleground, of course, is the i-4 corridor, which stretches from daytona east to st. petersburg. the markets cap and orlando together account for 44% of florida's registered voters, and in those two media markets, the percentage of republicans and democrats is a most identical. it is why the part of florida is called the swing part of the swing state. it is why you see the most television ads in the whole country.

number one, the orlando market. number two, tampa. it is the battleground. rarely will a candidate come to florida and not appear in one of those media markets on a visit. host: and the candidates have and the candidates have been there this past week several times holding several rallies and we have been covering them on c-span. go to c-span.org. let's get to calls. billy in miami, florida. good morning to you. what is it like where you are living? anglo living in a spanish town where i grew up and i was race. two things i want to think about -- when i see the commercials of hillary clinton sitting before the congressional committee and she says benghazi happened, what difference does it make now? that rubs me the wrong way because i am an xml it to

secondly, i saw a college student voice an opinion -- x military. i saw a college student voice an opinion that said we are electing a president, not a pastor of a church. if we went back in history with george bush, bill clinton, dwight eisenhower, i am sure we would hear stories that are comparable about what we are hearing about donald trump. it is 2016. it is not 1953. you have a different character with donald trump, which i support holy. to thinkn, i have about i am a liberal, and i am a gay man. with hillary clinton -- the next 80 years, we are going to be placing four -- eight years we are going to be placing four supreme court judges and we need

liberal judges on the court. i am torn you i support a lot of ideas donald trump has. with hillary clinton, it will be more of the same. it really bothered me when we gave iran back the money. when they violated a world-accepted policy where you do not cross the line of an american embassy, i think they should have forfeited the money. host: ok, billy, let me jump in at this point. you have less than two weeks. why do you think you will decide --how will you make the decision? decision,have made a but there is room for change on both sides. there is -- it is a torn issue. i like the man. i like his ideas, and i have to worry about the supreme court justices. thank you very much. host: you bet, billy.

we heard that point. , what is your reaction hearing billy in miami? guest: it reflects what i hear across the state. people are really torn. they do not know how they are going to vote. it is because people really want to do the right thing. if there is one common theme i itr a lot about floridians is i wish this country could come back together, that there could be a healing of this horrible divide in the country, and what they see in the two candidates, they don't see that coming together. there is such polarization. they like some aspects of one candidate, but not of the other. some people have described this election as a personality-based election rather than an issue-based election, and that is one of the sea changes we

have seen in the election that has everyone asking is if the craziest election you have ever seen? of course i have to say yes. it has really changed how we campaign. many people are torn. in our state you do have a large number of military retirees, and active-duty military and their families, and security issues are always a big concern in our state, as we heard from this gentleman. gaylso have a sizable population. increasingly very political in terms of their activities in politics, in terms of donations and high turnout groups. many running for office now. i understand people like billy that are conflicted, who are worried about the security of the country, but at the same time worried about the supreme court. host: oscar is next in yucca valley, california. good morning. caller: good morning. are going tonnials

take the state because this is a progressive state. these people are young, and i will say it is not just educated whites this date will be taken by millennials. this is not the old guard of florida. this is a new florida. host: let's get dr. mcmanus's opinion on that. academic, my big been the rise of the millennials. the 18 to 34-year-olds. people still think you have to go to florida and you run to an area where there are a high amount of retirees. those days are long gone.

youngest generations in florida make up 50% of our registered voters. what are they interested in? economy and jobs. the be? he dealt was whether they will big question-- the is will they still vote? voted forons of them bernie sanders. they are not as warm toward hillary and they don't necessarily like trump. will they vote is a huge issue. surely vote, she will win. that is why she has been going to college campuses and her surrogates as well. hillary clinton is able to bring can connect with younger people. president obama is a terrific surrogate for her as well as his wife, michelle obama.

but there is a big if for millennials. younger women, the idea that just elect hillary because she is a woman does not resonate. racial and ethnic diversity is a key part in their lives. race is still seen -- still seen as a acre area in life been gender -- race is still seen as a bigger area and life been gender. aimingt days are spent at college campuses in florida. host: is part of that effort getting them to vote early? guest: absolutely. before this, there was a big push to have been change the registration. one of the things we surveyed at usf, we surveyed a lot of election officials across the state and asked them, what are

the common questions that the people call your office and ask about? i was able to talk to groups about the state -- i was in to talk to groups around the state. one of the biggest things the supervisors told me was many young people just don't know how to change their registration from one place to another. often, that is been one of the reasons they have not voted. they were still under the impression you have to run home to where you are registered to vote. but it is very easy to change your registration to where you currently live. i do think that the supervisors across the state have tried to get out that message more this time out.

but it is the mechanics of voting. brand-new voters, brand-new registrar often really need extra help and telling them where to vote, explaining things to them. we take it for granted. brand-new voters are unsure and intimidated. that is the role of parties and candidates and election people is to make sure those new registrants. vote. host: a federal judge in florida extended to october 29 to november. fifth that has been extended --that has been extended. let's go to daytona, florida. good morning.er: i am an independent voter. my main issue is power. in florida, we have amendment one for solar. it is important for me to choose my power company. right now, florida power and

toht will want to force me continue fracking amalie to pay for that. i would prefer to pay for solar forms in florida. i want to see to candidates address this horrible issue not allowing us freedom of choice. billsill bring our power down. i want to see a candidate who will talk about amendment one, especially in the senatorial race. marco rubio was her house speaker -- was our house speaker. he completely ignored it. kind of like our water amendment from the last election they are ignoring. i want the candidates to address this. host: thank you, lori. dr. mcmanus? guest: we have the u.s. senate debate in florida last night. it turned very quickly into the usual of each one of them

pointing out the other one's flaws and credentials rather than talking about issues like this. the environment is a big issue in florida. it was number two and a survey. -- number two in a survey. people most of florida because of its environmental aspects. they want to hear candidates talk about the environment. it is true of all age groups, a very millennials are environmentally conscious generation. but fracking, in our survey, we found, and this is interesting, we found a large portion of floridians did not exactly know what that term. meant. the environment is a big issue. climate change -- but in our

state, most importantly our water-related issues -- the everglades, quality and quantity of our water. we have environmental things of late like the lg. but it has not gotten a lot of attention at the presidential level. the u.s. senate race, even though it is important, it has not gotten as much as attention because everything on our television is pretty much presidential ads nonstop. host: that senate race is between the incumbent senator marco rubio decided to run for his seat after losing in the primary. and patrick murphy. that debate, if you missed it, you can go to our website at www.c-span.org. we were covering several of the debates across the country for senate and house races. glenn in new jersey, you are next. caller: thank you for taking the

time. the back-and-forth between hillary and donald needs to be put aside and we need to focus global povertyas because if we can stabilize these other regions, that is going to bring jobs back here to the u.s. take that going to threat of terrorism away. they target areas where there is poverty and no structure and they can come and take over. there is one billion people hungry in this world. one child dies every 3.6 seconds. that is from poverty and a lack of clean water, hunger and preventable diseases. if we focus on that issue, that will bring security back to the united states, and it will also help bring jobs because they will come out of poverty, and

they will become consumers and buying goods. that bring stops here. host: all right. dr. mcmanus? guest: certainly. her argument about the global nature of the economy is something that is absolutely true. we know that. the problem is, when you have an election like the one we have right now when the top two concerns of voters are the economy and jobs, and personal safety and security, which would include both terrorist incidents on american soil and random shootings that are very unsettling to people, we do see polls that show and asked the question about where people would prefer the emphasis be spent, one of the polls show over half of americans say, on solving people's problems and america first, and that other

countries take care of themselves. americans become somewhat isolationist in what they want when there are such huge problems at home. but it is absolutely true, as your caller mentioned, that the world's economy is intertwined. it is a global economy. as i said, americans say, right now, big problems at home. let's address these first, and then we will worry about the rest. and panama, city. good morning. caller: good morning. i wanted to say that i have been a republican for 40 years. i did not vote for bill clinton. in,when newt gingrich came they accused him of anything you can think of. i watched that for 30 years. i voted for hillary because i think with donald trump his lack of stability and the crudeness was enough to change my mind right there.

i would've voted for hillary anyway. i think he will make a great president. i have lost friends in the selection. part of my family. we are divided right now. i hate it. i still think she is the best one. i could not possibly vote for somebody who as -- for some ice who is as crude and swears with children in the audience. i think he is terrible. host: what about your female friends and family? our most of them -- do they have the same reaction to donald trump, or are they split? caller: half of my family are for hillary in half are for trump. along a lot of my friends. i lost friendships because of it. host: dr. mcmanus, how are women in florida reacting to the stories that came out not too long ago about donald trump

bragging about taking actions without consent? guest: the women vote is many toward hillary, particularly the older women vote. women do differ ideologically. the bigger point that your caller made is how many people just cannot talk about this with people that they had been friends with or family members. this is the toxic nature of our politics. the most interesting poll i have seen this timeout which tells where we have come to is how many people say that they would be very upset if their child married someone from the opposite party. think of that. [laughter] joe and will go to pensacola. good morning. caller: good morning. host: question or comment?

i want to commend the lady that just got off the line. fellow for radiant. -- fellow floridian. it is the same old thing we have to realize one thing --we have to know what we are dealing with. donald trump is a typical, average american man. yeah, he is talking about everything people want to hear. but you are talking about a racial divide, it did not start the donald trump. he is just a voice for people who have already felt that way. there is a lot of resentment in this nation. to think thatical the issues will hide their true feelings. i wish he would come together rest human beings and see that we have a problem. without the reality of success

and preparedness and capability, it speaks for itself. i am voting for hillary for one reason --because she is qualified, ready, and prepared. host: ok, we heard your point. i want to have dr. mcmanus jump in. hest: the racial divide that talked about goes that many, many years. people are hopeful that it will get resolved. it did not start with this election cycle either. in florida, we released a poll results yesterday from our survey, which showed when asked what the biggest divide in our state that is keeping big problems from being solved, just two years ago, by far the biggest divide was identified as republicans versus democrats, the partisan divide. this timeout is the racial and ethnic divide. we are seeing this follow the

country and it has been exacerbated by this campaign. the gentleman pointed out, it is very distressing to people who just want people to come together, good people. the problem is, how we come together, the viewpoints of how to do it are extremely polarized. host: another call from florida in lake worth. tony, welcome. caller: i am really concerned about how they are going to regulate fraudulent voting and fraudulent registration because we have seen it compound. how are they going to account for the overload on our election system? they cannot even get through the number of registrations. host: we will have dr. mcmanus answer. guest: we have had a lot of late registrations because of the

court ruling that said that registration could be extended a week. of our county supervisor of elections to certify those registrations. causing people like your caller to ask the question, how can we possibly verify all of this? every election season in our state, there is always local press that comes up with a story about how people are voting in florida. those kinds of stories are not news to florida. registrationsate -- now, the late registrations -- it is causing people to wonder about the integrity of the election system. let me ashore the nation that florida no longer has the electronic touchscreens causing problems. we do have paper ballots. we do have good rules in terms

of how people can slack the ballots they send in. no election system is absolutely perfect whether it is people or equipment. you can have shortcomings. everybody in the state is committed to ensure that every vote counts. the last thing florida once, and any state for that matter, is to be the epicenter of the country for a month after an election. i don't see florida going there. i really think our election supervisors are doing the best they can. host: we do not want another replay of 2000. what are the rules now for a mandatory recount? and they changed? guest: the mandatory recount is within a certain percentage as an automatic recount and a tighter percentage means you have to have a recount. the first percentage is of a sample.

the other would be all of the returns are a mandatory recount. it is one half of 1% is the trigger for an automatic recount. host: anthony in las vegas. good morning. thanks for calling in. go ahead. caller: good morning. i always watch her show when i really appreciate it. union member of a labor and one of the only labor unions --weevada who went against endorsed bernie sanders. they did not want us to endorse him in the primary. i am also pretty active online. theren a community where is a lot of millennials. i know for a fact these millennials are not warming up to hillary clinton. they are not going to vote for her. they are pretty dead set on that.

when you see the chatter online. a lot of them are starting to warm up to donald trump. the reason they are warming up to donald trump is because they want to take the system down. the system is corrupt. we talk about it, all of us, we share posts from wikileaks. we see all the things that the democrat party has been involved in. host: i want dr. macmanus to share her thoughts on that point of the young people not trusting the system. guest: absolutely. again, he points to the verification of it with a huge percentage across the country that voted for him in the primaries or caucuses. it is true. we mentioned earlier that the is int of the millennials question, of course, in florida, we have a history of last-minute young voting.

but they do believe that the system is corrupt. the money and politics is very alienating to them. when i speak to various parties, when they ask how do we reach younger voters? i say don't make every appeal you are sending to them all about money. these young people have a lot of debt, college debt israel. -- college debt is real. they have only known two presidents. they have only been a political age for the barack obama and george w. bush administrations. yearly nation the two-party system is very evident. -- the alienation of the two-party system is very evident. unfairness in the whole process is one polls only focus on hillary clinton and donald trump when on the ballot are other candidates.

that has not been helpful for americans in terms of making voting decisions. but the younger people are tired of politics as usual. host: it did not help bernie encouragement to vote for hillary clinton and not a third-party candidate? has that not helped in states like florida? guest: it has not helped whatsoever. i must tell you that there are older progresses that also have not warmed up to her in spite of a sanders has said because the older progresses are the ones ,ho track all the wikileaks especially when it related to what they are ready but was the case about bernie sanders being treated by the party. we don't know what percentage of democrats are just going to withhold their support, or go for one of the third-party candidates. what i will say about florida,

which is making it so difficult to call who was going to win, and all my years of following politics, i don't believe i can ever recall that there has been such softness of opinions about voting and about who to vote for both parties at a time when both parties need cookie 70's more then the -- need cohesiveness more than they ever had. it trackback or difficulty of to the- it tracks back difficulty of using polls because they cannot predict turnout, especially in volatile swing states like florida. host: tony is in virginia. good morning. caller: good morning. i am a traditional republican, but i voted for patrick moynihan in new york when i lived there. i am going to make this about

population in the world getting overpopulated. the lady earlier mentioned something about reaching out and helping people around the world regarding poverty. my concern is when the population is going to double in asia, china, india, africa -- before we know it and how many years, we will be double the population. how much more immigrants can be except? -- we have to it have limits and protocols that these people need to follow. not: tony, dr. macmanus is an immigration expert. what are your thoughts about immigrants coming to this country and the election in florida in particular? guest: it is not cited as one of the top issues in the state.

it was not near the top. in terms of asking floridians how the economy could best be improved, or what are the things that could best be improved, the top of the list was better paying jobs. number three was the immigration issue. now, florida has torn humans about immigration because many people who live there are immigrants. my own grandfather was an immigrant in the 1900s. hand, this is a state that is aware of what uncontrolled immigration can do to the economy. so, you do have mixed signals on this issue, but really, it is not as big an issue. who are a large influx and cubans have a special status for years, it is not the issue. what is the issue is immigration

and security within immigration and the economy. host: let me ask you about the ground game for each of the candidates. where are they spending their resources, their time? florida andhem need the win column to get to the magic number of 270? guest: let's start with the last question first, absolutely, donald trump must have florida. he cannot win without it. does hillary want to lose florida. ? absolutely not. senateritical to have a controlled by the -- when you look at the media markets, you can almost sense that they are picking places where they are worried about a key part of their base and turnout.

hillary clinton spent a lot of time down in southeast florida. particularly appealing to the young college students in the communities of color in that area. she is bringing president obama tomorrow in that area. she has also come to tampa. hillary has come to the tampa market, who she tried to reach. the millennials, the older voters, and hispanics. why did donald come to tampa a day before her? to reach the large suburban vote, which is really critical for a republican victory in our state. filledurban areas are with middle and lower income, and retirees. that arethe places competitive, or the places where you families and children, and middle aged and a bit younger

population. each of them are carefully choosing the areas of the state where they need to ramp up turnout. exactly why donald trump went up to san augustine. -- ifis in sync augustine he is in sync augustine, he is in the key republican market. where they are going speaks volumes. where they are spending their last money on ads. clinton has better surrogates. trump does it on. host: dr. susan macmanus. it thank you very much. guest: thank you. broward county sun sentinel to this recent story related this issue that the outnumbered in their county, activists are not running with from donald trump. we need to elect donald trump

said a republican. candidate for the broward county commission. . he said it is essential because we cannot continue to lose the country. even the republicans are way behind in broward county and no party affiliations, independent voters -- he said to have the courage of your conviction. the florida presidential race from this morning's washington journal with mitch ceasar. with a look atck the sunshine state of florida. it is 29 electoral votes. mitch ceasar, the chair of the broward county democratic party, and a member of the democratic national committee's executive board joins us from that city to talk to us about hillary clinton and the democratic party's campaign in florida. let's begin with what happened four years ago. in 2012, president obama one florida by less than 75,000

votes. lesson 1%. when the state had pretty much parity, but more registered democrats, 536,000, has hillary clinton been able to capture the obama coalition in the state? guest: i think she has. it is been a process because president obama is a tough act to follow. we talked about millennials for a really long time. he effortlessly connected with them. i think there is much more momentum on the clinton site now that we are closing on the actual election day. to give you historical perspective, president obama won florida by a point. 70,000 or so. broward county is the largest in the credit county in the state. the margin of victory, the margin of broward county was 255,000 votes. for us, it is not about winning.

it is about the margin, which can't be tries to ramp down. there is more enthusiasm. there's genuine concern that there is a possibility of a presidency. host: this is from cbs, a recent article, that hillary clinton, who many voters say won the debates, has not persuaded voters on key items, such as her ability to fix the economy, or that she understands regular people. host: clinton also fails to hit the 50% mark on whether she understands regular people, and whether she could fix the economy, 42%. what is your reaction to that, mr. ceasar? what is your reaction to that, mr. ceasar? caller: