north dakota. and i believe that the role of government is to empower people. that means focusing on the fundamentals. the things that will help our economy grow and help job creation. that means reducing the regulatory burden. that means making sure that we reform the tax code so that it's pro growth and simper and more fair. and that means balancing our budget so we don't leave a big debt to our children and grandchildren. it also means supporting law enforcement and our military so that americans feel safer here at home and abroad. these are the things that will make our state and our nation stronger. moderator: eliot glassheim, one minute opening statement. rep. glassheim: thanks for having us, matt. a 1997, grand forks suffered tremendous flood, 800 homes were badly damaged. almost the entire city had to be evacuated. at that time i was on the city

council. and we were charged with getting the city back up and running. people were concerned about whether they should reinvest in the city. on a council committee i was on, some of my fellows spent a lot of time debating trivia. and i got so frustrated and angry at one point i shouted, stop talking and start moving dirt. that's the sense of urgency i want to bring to the united states senate. there are too many things they have not finished, they have not worked on or got taken care of and issues have been festering for years without -- moderator: that's one minute. robert marquette. sen. hoeven: thank you very much. mr. marquette: thank you, matt. i'm running for the united states senate because i am fed up, sick and tired of the corruption, graft, and greed that has become systemic in washington. i don't believe senator hoeven

has done anything meaningful to address these issues. and in fact he is part of the problem. the collapsing commodities prices that are destroying profits for north dakota's oil producers, and farmers, are the direct result of failed economic and monetary policies designed to deal with the toxic consequences of our national debt. and senator hoeven has voted to add $6.5 trillion to this debt. our failing economy, endless wars, and loss of personal liberties are the legacy of establishment politicians like senator hoeven. and i believe he's betrayed the trust and confidence of the people of north dakota. we can do better than this. i can do better than this. moderator: let's get to our fs issue and the hot button issue the north dakota access pipeline and all your opinions on the project and how it was permitted and handled and the ensuing protests and where it goes from here from both the state and federal perspective. eliot glassheim you start us

off on this. rep. glassheim: as a permitting process, i think was flawed in directly ribe was not consulted as a sovereign nation as they should have been but were invited to many meetings. early sure that the bringing of the law enforcement and closing of that road was the right thing to do. i think the governor should have met with the tribal leaders and tried to work out a solution. e're in a really bad situation now. we need the federal government to step up with some funds that have -- for law enforcement. but more than that, we need both the tribes and the pipeline company to be brought to the table to see if they

cannot find a way out of this impasse. and if i were senator, i would try to broker that -- that kind of meeting. moderator: robert marquette, response. mr. marquette: well, i fully support the dakota access pipeline. and based upon what i understand, all of the permitting processes, all the necessary i's have been dotted and the t's have been crossed and i think we should go through with it. and my principal concern is whether or not the condition of the world economy and with the collapse of commodity prices, whether there will be oil that will be pumped through that pipeline. and i think that the most important thing that i can do as a united states senator is address the destructive economic and monetary policies that are created by

washington's deficit spending and restore free market forces so that we can have a more thriving and vibrant economy here in north dakota. moderator: senator hoeven, response. sen. hoeven: well, look, we need energy infrastructure. not only for economic growth, for job creation, but also for national security. but to produce energy, in this country, and get it to where it needs to go, we need energy infrastructure. that means pipelines. that means transmission, roads, rails, bridges, all of the above. we can build the dakota access pipeline safely, not only protect the tribe downstream but everyone else downstream. it goes in an existing right of way where there's already a gas pipeline and a transmission line. whether you're for traditional or renewable energy we need this infrastructure. we can build it safely. we need the energy infrastructure. we need regulatory certainty. we need legal certainty so that we can build this infrastructure. the administration needs to step up. i'm pushing them not only to get this approved but also to

help us with law enforcement and safety so that we protect the farmers and ranchers that live in that area so that we also make sure that any protests are peaceful but that we get this project done. moderator: eliot glassheim, a response. rep. glassheim: i agree that we need the energy. we need to have the safest means of transporting oil. we're not going to do without in our lifetimes so we need to find a way to do it. however, we do know that pipelines occasionally break. and so there's no absolute guarantee of safety for drinking water. and i don't know how -- i don't know how we resolve that issue. but the pipeline has to be built. but it needs to be done safely

and it needs to be done perhaps in a different place crossing the missouri, perhaps not there. but that needs to be negotiated out. and discussed further. moderator: robert marquette. mr. marquette: well, as far as i know, the -- in the entire process, they had archeologists on site to assure that all the historical sites were preserved. all the petitions were filed and it -- the pipeline should just go through. i believe that it's the safest and most effective way to transport oil. we just need to ensure that we have a thriving and vibrant backen -- balkan to ensure we can supply the oil. moderator: senator hoeven, last response and we'll move on to another topic.

sen. hoeven: as i say it can be done safely and understand it's in an existing right of way where you've already got gas pipeline and a transmission line. that's why i make the point about whether you're for fossil fuel or renewable we need this infrastructure. and also dug underneath the river so about 92 feet below the bottom of the river. if there were a leak, it would be like almost 100 feet below the river. and somehow that oil would have to come up to even get into the river and there's monitoring devices on it as well. so also, the judge, the federal district court judge in washington, an obama appointee, determined that the -- had done everything they needed to do for siting the pipeline and the route has been changed 140 times to address any archeological concerns. so again, this is about doing it right and doing it well. but we need legal and regulatory certainty in this country to build the necessary energy infrastructure. and one final point. it's one thing to have

protests. but they need to be peaceful and within the law. and what we're seeing down there is protests that are not within the law. that puts a huge burden on our law enforcement. again, the obama administration needs to step up, help get this done, and help with the law enforcement efforts. and i'm working very hard to get them to do that and to get reimbursement for the state and local costs of all this law enforcement. moderator: let's move to national security. this has become a big issue this year with some attacks in san bernardino and orlando. as senator, how would you deal with isis overseas and also with homegrown terrorism and rooting that out as well, robert marquette, you start us off on this one? mr. marquette: well, we first have to understand the cause of the problem. particularly with domestic terrorism. and the cause of the problem is our failed interventionist foreign policy. iraq, libya, syria, yemen, none

of these countries have attacked the united states. and our military and para military interventions in these regions are murdering millions of people, destabilizing the region, and these are immoral and illegal acts. and it should come as no surprise to anyone therefore that there's blowback to this activity. and that being people want to get even. they want revenge. they want justice for what's been done to their homeland and their people. moderator: senator hoeven, response. sen. hoeven: well, you need comprehensive strategy to take out isis. we need to take out isis by working with our allies in the region that. means the peshmerga and that means the jordanians and the egyptians. the iraqis, free iraqi army. we've got to make sure that

we're working with our allies and then we provide the kind of leadership and strategy, the low gistics, command and control, those types of activities that can make sure that like i say, our allies in the region go in and with our leadership and strategy, take out isis. and we've got to take them out at the root and then at the same time, work in our country with the f.b.i., the c.i.a., all of our law enforcement agencies and stand strong with law enforcement to make sure that we root them out in this country as well. and that's why when robert talks about drastically cutting our military, cutting it in half, in this dangerous world, that makes no sense. and that's not something that we can do if we want to take out isis and make sure that americans are safe at home and abroad. moderator: elliott glass hiram, your response. -- glassheimer, your response. rep. glassheim: first thing we're going to have no boots on the ground in any large numbers.

the country doesn't want it. we can't do it. we've had a number of adventure wars over the last three decades. and none of them have turned out well. so i don't think we need to do that. also, we need to be friendly with all the muslim countries throughout the world who do not embrace terrorism which is a billion or more people. that's why we can't have donald trump's proposals even discussed because they -- they alienate the muslim people from the united states. and we need them to help us in combating isis. we need to put more money into our friends, supporting our friends in jordan and elsewhere who are willing to fight against the people who are killing their people as well.

at home, we probably need to increase funding for the f.b.i. and the intelligence services. and we need to do something bout guns for people who are thought to be dangerous. there has to be a constitutional way to prevent them from getting guns if they've been judged to be dangerous. certainly the no-fly, no buy list would help some to not ave domestic terrorists. moderator: want to get robert marquette in for a response. mr. marquette: well, i appreciate senator hoeven putting words into my mouth but i prefer to put them there myself. he speaks about working with our allies in the middle east. there has been a wikileaks document dump that now demonstrates that as our allies, saudi arabia, and qatar, that are funding and

arming isis. so i don't know how you work with allies like that. they have to understand that in seer -- syria not just a civil war. it's a civil war. it's a cold war and it's a holy war. and these three things are being played out all at the same time. and as far as the holy war is concerned, it is saudi arabia and it's qatar and certain kuwaitis and turkey that are supporting the radical islamists, isis, other types -- splinter organizations and providing them with low gistics and support because they perceive bashar al asaid as a her take -- her particular for his secular ideology. and it is part of their ideology that these infidels must be removed so they can establish sharia law. syria, simple, under

bashar al-assad was a place where muslims, christians and jews could all live in peace and harmony because of their secular progressive nature. and quite frankly the united states and its allies are on the wrong side of this fight. moderator: senator hoeven, response. sen. hoeven: well, again, this is why we have to support our military so strongly. and that's what i've worked to do and what i'll continue to do. but at the same time we need an administration that will stand with our allies and stand up to our adversaries on a consistent basis and put forward a strategy, working with our allies in the region to defeat isis decisively. moderator: and elliott glass miami response -- glassheim we'll move on to another topic. rep. glassheim: i will remind president hoeven that we have a president who has been doing that and strategy and we have drone strikes and pushing isis back and he has been working with our allies. i think he's waiting for some funding from the congress, i don't know what's happened to

the congress. but we -- we are doing exactly what he says he wants. and president obama is in charge of that. and it's working. moderator: let's move to the economy specifically north dakota's economy which in the last year we've seen is very dependent on energy and oil and across-the-board budget cuts and things like that and some accusation that is maybe north dakota's too dependent on energy, too cozy with oil companies as some have alleged. and what can be done to fortify the state's economy from your seat in washington, senator hoeven, you start? sen. hoeven: again, i talked about this at the outset. the solution is not more government. it's stimulating the private sector. and empowering people, empowering our entrepreneurs and empowering ingenuity. and you do that by reducing the regulatory burden, reforming the tax code, to make it pro-growth and encourage and empower more investment. you make sure that you control government spending. we reduced -- i agree with robert. we have to reduce government

spending. those are the steps that enable job creation. and investment. and for me, jobs has always been job one. but we have to understand that that comes from private sector investment. and you got to create that climate that will help us not only grow the economy, build on our ag base and build on our energy base. i talked about the next wave of development in terms of economic growth being technology. but we've got to continue to diversify this economy. and that's been my life's work. throughout my life, both in the private sector and the public sector, as governor and senator, this is always been an absolute priority for me. moderator: eliot glassheim a. response. rep. glassheim: one of the most important things we can do is to increase spending on research and development. much of which comes from the federal government. and where new developments are discovered and then put into work in the private sector. woo -- we have a very healthy

medical operation at the university. we have research is needed in coal, clean coal and in oil. and these -- these government programs help to stimulate jobs. i would remind the senator that most government spending goes to the private sector. sometimes he acts as if the government was spending its own money on itself. but mainly governments hire private sector people to accomplish the purposes that government set out. i would think that diversifying and the senator has been very active and i need to applaud him for his work on drone activity, which is a very good next step. and i think we should develop. but -- and we need also research money in terms of

establishing an alternative energy presence in the global economy. moderator: and robert marquette. mr. marquette: all right. first thing we have to recognize is the problems faced by the energy sector and the agriculture sector in north dakota are a direct result of national debt and the failed monetary policy. listen, since the great recession, the government has increased the national debt at a rate 4 1/2 times the economy has grown. it's a formula for bankruptcy. and congress knows it. they had a choice. they could have slashed government spending and paid down the national debt. or what they chose instead to do was to bail out their banker buddies and try to stimulate the economy in an attempt to try to grow it faster than what the debt was growing. and so the interest rates with fixed near zero and billions of

money printed out of thin air and the government told producers you should borrow this money to expand production and increase the supply of goods and commodities. it failed. what we ended up with was an economy with a surplus of supply in things like commodities, oil, and agriculture commodities. and when supply ex-eads demand the price collapses. and this is where we are today. and senator hoeven and congress' out of control spending that has created this problem. moderator: we need to get to our last question from our co-sponsor. aarp of north dakota. if elected what action will you take to update social security so it's financially sound for future generations, eliot glassheim. rep. glassheim: social security is one of my top priorities. it's extremely important to tens of thousands of retired people in north dakota and

millions throughout the country. people depend on it. we also need to make sure that the government guarantees that it will be there long into the future. right now, the congress has been kicking the can down the road. they've been unable to act on it. and if nothing is done very soon, within 17 years, everybody will take a 23% cut in their benefits automatically. no one will be to blame, senator hoeven, and everybody in congress will say it's not our fault. we didn't do it. but it will happen if they don't act. basic to increase the level on which people pay taxes. it's only up to $114,000 of pages. we need to raise that. perhaps to $200,000 or maybe $250,000. and that will bring in enough money to deal with most of that

deficit. we may have to also do things to hold benefits in check and not raise them. the one thing i will say is we have to have republicans and democrats agree on any fixes to social security. nothing will move in the congress. moderator: need to get robert marquette in. we're short on time. robert. mr. marquette: i'm not a professional establishment politician, so i don't need to lie to people about these things. the congressional budget. the heritage foundation released a report earlier this year based upon congressional budget numbers. that showed that social security needed an immediate injection of $50 trillion in order to maintain long-term solvency. and we don't have the money. it's just simply not going to happen. c.b.o. numbers also demonstrate that we're projected in 16

years that social security, medicare, medicaid, affordable care act subsidies, and interest on the national debt are going to consume 100% of the revenues. tax revenues taken in by the treasury. leaving nothing left over for anything else including national defense. we have to recognize that the federal government has destroyed all of these programs. and we have to take these programs away from the people who have so severely mismanaged them. we need to turn that money back -- moderator: we're getting very short on time. sen. hoeven: we need to make sure social security is softly for the long term. right now softly until 2034. the way we do that with economic growth. 2% and rowth is 1% to we need to get that to 3% to 4%. the percentage of people in the work force during the obama

administration has dropped from 66% during the bush years to 62%. fewer people paying into social security. right now we have about 7.9 million people unemployed. if we get just 20% of those people back to work, that puts $100 billion more into the social security trust fund over the next 10 years. that's why i keep going back to getting this economy going. jobs and opportunity. creating the business climate to do that. i worked to do that in north dakota's governor. and i'm working to do that in the united states senate. and i agree with eliot that we have to get people working together to do that. moderator: closing statements. robert marquette, you go first. mr. marquette: well, conservative report has given senator hoeven a failing score of seven on a scale of 100 for his big government, tax, borrow and spend voting record in support of corporate welfare. so your choices are these. we have a big government establishment republican that

pretends to be conservative when he's not. and a big government establishment democrat that is shameless about it. and then there's me. a true constitutional -- a true constitutionalist and a fiscal conservative. and i swear to the people of north dakota that i have the courage of conviction to do what it takes to make the changes that will end the destructive economic, monetary, and foreign policies and wall street's corrupting influence on government and restore the wealth, power, and control of our lives back to the people. so help me god. moderator: senator hoeven. sen. hoeven: robert, you said some things i have to respond to. i've been all over the state talking to north dakotans and i think i know what they want. so when you come out and say you want to legalize all drugs, legalize all drugs including meth, including opium and all drugs, when we have a drug problem, that's not what north dakotans want. they don't want the military cut in half. they do not want social security ended as we know it

and all somebody has to do is look on your website and they'll see that. so that's not what -- and they don't want the farm program completely abolished which you would also do. so again, this is about making sure that we do what we can to build our state and our country. and eliot, i've enjoyed working with you and the legislature throughout the years and you maker the point about bipartisanship. look, we have to work together in this country. we have to come together in a positive way. i care about our country. i care about our state. i have kids and grandkids. we've got to get this economy going and we have to make sure we support law enforcement and our military so we're safe at home and abroad. that's how we build a brighter future. and i want to thank -- moderator: that's one minute. eliot glassheim. closing statement. rep. glassheim: thanks for having us. my mother was a grade school teacher who came over in immigration around the turn of the century and they believe that frank len roosevelt saved their lives. my father was a small

manufacturer, 40 people working for him. and he -- every election season, he voted for a moderate republican. so i have both of those elements in my character. and i think i'm exactly what the senate needs to be able to ork across the aisle and get things done. unfortunately, i'm glad to hear senator hoeven say that he wants to work together with republicans. but he's voted 90% of the time with mitch mcquonl and has been involved in the dysfunction of washington of not getting things done. i hope to get things done. and i hope to incorporate -- moderator: time is up. rep. glassheim: democrat and republican ideas. moderator: thanks to all of you. rep. glassheim: in nigh legislation. moderator: thanks to all of for a lively debate and thank you for watching prairie public and aarp's coverage of election 2016. so long.

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