substantially. she wants toaxes, raise taxes substantially. that is not going to happen. we will also cancel billions in global warming payments to the united nations and use that money to invest in america. [applause] [cheers] mr. trump: that includes repairing so many of florida's problems. thank you. we are going to rip their so many of -- repair so many of florida's problems, including the hoover dike which is a big problem and the florida aquifer. and we will protect the everglades. we will have so much money left over. you know what we want? we want really beautiful clean air, really crystal clean water,

and we want safety. we do not need to give hundreds of billions of dollars away, we have no idea who is getting the money, giving into the united nations. that is called, giving into an open pit. can you imagine if these guys were doling out that money? we are going to keep our money here and we will take care of our infrastructure and our environment, and we will lower taxes. [cheers] rebuildp: we will also our inner cities. the african-american community has been treated terribly. terribly. that is why i am so honored to see those signs. that is turning out to be the story of this election. the african-american vote. watch. they have been treated unfairly.

african-american and hispanic people living in the inner cities, there is no -- oh, you like that hispanics? how many hispanics do we have here? [applause] mr. trump: by the way, that is a big story. the cubans just endorsed me come and they gave me the bay of pigs association award. we will be making a different deal man they made with castro, they are very happy. that is another story that is turning out to be big, the hispanic votes. it is turning out to be much different than people thought. the african-american community and hispanic community, the folks living in the inner cities, crime-ridden, you cannot go to the store and buy a loaf of bread, you will get shot. the education is the worst and to their are no jobs. we're going to bring back jobs

and safety. and i say to the hispanic community, living in the inner-city, to the african-american community, i hell do you have to lose? i am going to fix it. i am going to fix it. the democrats have been running that thing up to 100 years unbroken and they come in and say, we want your vote. and you give them the vote, you know this? they know. you give your vote and they disappear for four years. they say, see you in four years. and they come back again and again. we have to show them that it does not work that way anymore. and they will never be able to do what i do. i am here and i am doing five or six of these a day.

hillary goes home and she goes to sleep. if she wanted to do it, she does not have the energy. believe me. we will become a rich nation again. to become a rich nation, we must also be a safe nation. a 550% clinton wants increase in syrian refugees coming into this country. thousandsbove that and thousands that are already coming in. you want to see a problem? this will be the great trojan horse, modern-day version. it will bring radicalism and extremism into your schools and throughout your communities. when i am elected, we will suspend immediately the syrian refugee program. [cheers]

keeprump: and we will radical islamic terrorists the h ell out of our country. [cheers] mr. trump: you look at what has happened in france, in germany, no. and we all have big hearts, we havens, we will get them to put up the money. trillion, think of it. i will get the gulf states, they have so much money they do not know what to do with it. they just have to be told nicely. they will put up the money and we will build safe havens in syria. we cannot have this. we have enough problems. a trump administration will also secure and defended the borders of the united states. [applause] [cheers]

said, yes,and as we we will build a great wall. [cheers] mr. trump: we received the first ever endorsement issued by the ice and border patrol officers. it has just been reported that as a result of our open borders, violent cartels have spread into all 50 states. more than 90% of those arrested are here illegally. are you shocked? 90%, think of that. 90% here illegally. >> i love you. mr. trump: i love you, too. a future construction worker. look at that baby, so cute. give me that baby. [cheers]

mr. trump: look at this baby. [baby crying] mr. trump: future construction worker. [applause] mr. trump: they did a great job. that is a beautiful baby. congratulations. that is an early trump fan, right? that is an early united states fan. [applause] mr. trump: anyway, back to the basics. hate going through that, i

to say this, but these terrorists are killing innocent americans, threatening schools and destroying our communities. a government that will not protect its people is a government that is unworthy to lead. of state, hillary clinton allowed thousands of the most dangerous and violent criminals to come into the country, go free, and wouldn't send them back to their home countries. and when they did, their home intelligentlyery said, we do not want them. take them back. i promise you, when we take these killers and gang members and druglords back to their countries, they will be accepted gladly by their countries. thank you so much for bringing this killer back, mr. trump.

we appreciate it. trump,ll say, president thank you sir. we are so, so happy. mr. president, we are so, so happy to have our druglords back. to have our killers back. to have our gang members back. thank you mr. president on behalf of -- i will not use the name of the country. the open borders means the end of your country. where theary cities girl was murdered by an illegal immigrant and deported. this was a man deported more than five times probably. thousands of americans would be alive today if not for the open border policies of barack obama and hillary clinton. [boos] mr. trump: and by the way, i said it.

this guy is campaigning full-time. she cannot campaign for herself, nobody shows up to her meetings. the only way she gets them to show up is when she has the star power. that is the only way. otherwise, she gets 500 people, 400 people. the cameras never showed that. can you imagine if i had a small crowd? there would be headlines all over, trump is not doing it, right? but she has these little crowds show up. look i'm a she cannot do more than one or two a day because she does not have energy. and she can't get any people. but obama goes and campaigns for her and he should be spending time in the oval office, defeating isis, straightening up mong those -- a killed, americans like josh

wilkerson, his mother i have gotten to know during this campaign. josh was a student. a great student. he was murdered at the age of 17. he was tortured and beaten to death by in a legal immigrant who should never have been in our country. and his body was set on fire. remembrance project, these people are amazing people, people who have suffered so much. last year in florida, 17-year-old starlet pitts, her boyfriend and murder -- her boyfriend and mother were viciously stabbed to death in their home by in a legal -- illegal immigrant. the suspect was wanted for double murder and robbery, but he was released from custody, enabling him to commit these and other horrible crimes. and the people that knew him

begged that he be incarcerated, or bed that he be thrown - -begged that he be thrown out of our country. and the obama administration refused to listen. death. a trump administration will end this nightmare. we will protect american lives. we will cancel all federal funding of statuary cities. [cheers] mr. trump: we will stop illegal immigration, deport every last criminal alien, and dismantle every cartel threatening our great citizens. [cheers] mr. trump: when we win this election, you will finally have a government on your side, fighting for your community and protecting your family. [applause]

repealmp: we will also the obama defense seaquest and build our badly depleted military. the greatest people on earth. that means modern aircraft. mcgill, anybody? look at that beautiful -- you know, some of the fighter jets are so old, they do not make them anymore. 18 years old, they did a documentary about it. we will take care of those new beautiful jets out of mcgill, ok? i am honored to have the endorsement of more than 200 top admirals and generals, and 22 middle of honor recipients. i heard we picked up about five of them today. [cheers] mr. trump: i want to thank the coach for coming up and talking

to you people. and joe, and your attorney general. you have so many great people. all of the people that got up and spoke, i want to thank them. they are speaking all over the country. hillary brought death and libya,r to iraq, syria, and she empowered iran. they have been empowered and emboldened. we gave them $150 billion and they hate us. now they are strong and we have created them. they were ready to die. they were ready to come back and make any deal we wanted and we took them out of the ashes and made them a world power, not just a regional power. all hillary clinton was thinking -- bad judgment, bad instincts. she unleashed isis across the world. during the debates -- did i win

the debate? [cheers] mr. trump: i was a little worried my because for a week and a half, i would here, she is not going out of her house. she is doing debate prep. you are supposed to know this stuff, right? i mean, she has a lot of experience. that is the one thing she has, is experience, but it is experience losing. she kept doing debate prep. i felt guilty, what am i going to do? 10 hours a day for a week and a half? we are supposed to know the subject, aren't we? anyway, she did debate prep. i do not think it helped her. hillary has spent $6 trillion that we -- on wars that we never win. we keep fighting and we fight,

fight, and i always say that general george patton, general macarthur, they are spinning in their graves. they cannot believe it. we go into mosul. ladies and generally, we will be attacking mosul four months from now. these guys are tough and smart, and so isis, one of the reasons we are going to mosul is we think the isis leaders are there and we want to get them. before the announcement is over, they are gone. what ever happened to the elements of surprise? the elements of surprise. what a group of losers we have. [cheers] mr. trump: now it is a tough battle. they are dug in. much tougher than they thought. no, we need different thinking in this country. they should have kept their mouth shut, quietly and quickly

into viciously go in and then have a news conference when it is over, a week later. right? and i am convinced they only did that for political reasons, they thought it would be a great, quick victory. it wasn't. it was a disaster. and you know, hillary is running it and she will get credit. they already had mosul. we gave it up. then isis was formed. now it is in 32 countries. during the debate, i watched her say, we are going to fix the taxes. why didn't you do it? all of her people do the same thing. we are going to do this, we are going to do that -- i kept saying, why didn't you do it. it will never happen. they dragged us into foreign wars, shipped our goods and our

companies to other countries, and they have left our borders wide open, so we have no borders and yet we are fighting for countries that a lot of people in this room have never heard of. we are fighting so they have a border, but we do not protect our own borders. that will change on november 8. [cheers] mr. trump: a trump administration will never ever put the interests of a foreign country before the interests of our country. from now on it is going to be america first. so to all americans i say, it is time for change, it is time for new leadership. want you tong, i think about --

>> we want trump. we want trump. we want trump. we want trump trump. mr. trump: thank you, folks. i just see a sign that i love. let me see that. let me have that. let me have it. [cheers] mr. trump: i love that sign. it is true. i love that sign. i love all the signs. women for trump, blacks for trump, hispanics for trump. thank you. i just found a second mic, i am probably being wired or tapped.

that has to be the justice department doing it. saying, where is this mic. hell did the hell -- the did this second mic come from? think about what we can accomplish in the first 100 days of the trump administration? we are going to have the biggest tax cuts since ronald reagan. she is going to raise your taxes. we will illuminate every unnecessary -- eliminate every unnecessary job killing -- cance l everyday legal -- illegal obama order. we are going to protect religious liberty. [cheers] mr. trump: we will rebuild our military and take care of our great veterans, like they have never been taken care of before. they have been badly treated.

we already have a plan for the veterans and they love it and we have overwhelming support from the veterans. they are great people. we will provide school choice and put an end to common core and will bring our education forward. we will support the men and women of law enforcement. [applause] saverump: we are going to our second amendment, which is under siege. we have the endorsement of the nra, the national rifle association. i have to tell you, these are great people. wayne and chris and all of them. they love this country. they gave me the earliest endorsement they have ever given to a presidential candidate, we are going to save our second amendment. and we will appoint justices to the united states supreme court

who will uphold and defend the constitution of the united states. and it is time to cut our ties with the failed politicians, like hillary, of the past. hillary clinton is the candidate of yesterday. we are the movements of the future. [cheers] mr. trump: and they have never seen a movement like a this. they have never ever seen a movement like this. there has never been anything like this in our country's history. we have to close it out -- by the way, who is voting? that is about 80%. 20%, leave right now and vote. eighth.ore the the numbers are looking good. did you vote? >> yes!

mr. trump: blacks for trump, you voted right? thank you. we are fighting for every parent that lost their child to drugs and gang violence. we are fighting for every community whose jobs and dreams have been ripped out of our ipped toand sh faraway lands. it is happening all the time. and we are fighting for every american that believes government should serve the people, not the donors. i am asking you to dream big, because your vote, think of this , we are just three days away. can you believe this? three days away. we will bring about the change you have been waiting for. your entire life. this will be a very important day. and i know that the vote that you cast will be the most

important vote of your life, because our country does not win anymore. we will start winning, we will knockout isis. we will not -- knock them out. we will win at trade, we will win again. we will win so much you will get sick and tired of winning. you will say, mr. president, you are winning too much. take it easy. we are going to win so much you will be so proud of your country and hopefully, proud of your president. [cheers] makerump: together we will america wealthy again. we will make america strong again. we will make america safe again. great will make america again. thank you very much everybody. thank you. get out and vote.

god bless you everybody. get out and vote. ♪ ♪ >> you can't always get what you want you can't always get what you want you can't always get what you want but if you try sometimes you find you get what you need ♪ ♪ [cheers]

i saw her today at the reception ♪ >> c-span's washington journal, live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. coming up on sunday morning, the president of the constitutional accountability center and erica baxter, the senior counsel for the fund for religious liberty, will be talking about the role of religious institutions in politics and campaigns and the debate over the right of religious groups. and the senior correspondent for the washington examiner. be sure to watch washington journal live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on sunday morning. join the discussion. >> on newsmakers, a look at the

safety of putting systems, with officials overseeing voting. the president of the national association of secretaries of state, and thomas hicks. newsmakers on sunday at 10 of clock a.m. and 6:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. democratic vice presidential candidate senator tim kaine of the virginia spoke at a rally in florida. here is a portion of his remarks. it is almost 20 minutes. senator kaine: hillary and i believe that we should do something similar to what president reagan did in a bipartisan way, comprehensive immigration reform. it will involve a number of different things. it will involve more border security, helping employers

figure out the immigration status of employees my but it will also involve a path to citizenship for people who are paying taxes, following the law, undergoing criminal background checks -- we do not want to divide families. we want to keep them together. [applause] this is not democrat or republican, polls show that the american public supports, you have agriculture and technology, chargeand governors and organizations, there is a broad consensus on this. we got nearly 70 votes on this in the senate and we have not gotten the house to take up the matter, but the american public likes the idea of reform. on the other side, donald trump basically want to build a wall and have a deportation nation, deporting 16 million people. you are 11.5 million

here without documents, but he also says 4.5 million citizens, they are citizens my but if they were born to parents that are undocumented, they should be part of the deportation. i do not want to live in a nation, i do not want to live in a nation where officials go house to house and business-to-business and school to school and neighborhood to neighborhood, to deport 16 million people. that is not who we are. [applause] just, let me just finish. you guys have been good. when i get rolling, sometimes i really get rolling. i am a u.s. senator. i like to talk. let me tell you how we will win. this is the important thing. it is close. it is close in florida and all over the country. i like where we are. i would rather be us than them. i have you on my side, so i would rather be us.

i know that. but the last thing i want to tell you is, we cannot take anything for granted. because, even when we look at the polls right now, they can tighten and they can be wrong. we cannot take it for granted. we have the government of russia and the director of national intelligence who says, along with our entire intelligence apparatus, saying they are undertaking steps to attack before the election. remember, that was impeachment when nick said was president, going into the dm's -- going into the dnc. it is more than that. it is hacking into the e-mails of colin powell, tapping into state boards of elections. we have caught them doing that. we have never seen it. we cannot take anything for granted. we cannot take anything for granted.

donald trump is going around saying the election is going to be rate. he is trying to set up for afterwards when he can complain and whine. the better we do and be more powerful message we send -- he can whine all he wants, but everybody will know that those are just the words of a sore loser. [applause] senator kaine: that is what we are going to do. we cannot take anything for granted, because it would be good to have a congress and a senate that is willing to work with a president clinton. the better we do for hillary, the more people we will put in office and work on the issues. the last reason we can't take anything for granted -- hillary is trying to do something that has never been done before. if it had been easy for there to be a woman president in this country, there would have been a woman president. another statistic that surprised me a little bit.

now congress is 19% women, , that is the most it has ever been. there is my punchline. that is 75th in the world. below the global average. our best we have ever been, we are below the world average with the percentage of women we have in our national legislative body. in iraq, the percentage of women in the national legislative body is 26%. we are at 19%. afghanistan, it is 28%. rwanda is number one, about 65%. we are so good at so many things in this country. we are so good at so many things with respect to women, but a great nation should be willing to look in the mirror and say, here is something we are not good at. we are uniquely bad act electing women to federal office. so nobody should think this is going to be a breeze because hillary is trying to do something that has never been done. i'll bet there are people in

this room that have tried to do something that has never been done. in your own personal life, your neighborhood, family, workplace, schools you have tried to do , something and have been a path breaker. in your life you have tried to , do something that was a dream of yours that was important, but you had people tell you, the time is not right for you. there is somebody else. you are not the most qualified. you should consider doing something else. you have had people pour cold water on you when you tried to go after a dream. i think that is a universal human experience. i will tell you, hillary clinton has heard that her whole life, that this is a profession more for men and women and it is going to be hard for this, how come she is not more likable? donald trump says she does not look very presidential. she has been running into a

headwind all her life. i know that she does not take anything for granted. what do you do at the end of the day when it is so important and you are trying to make history and it is not going to be easy. what do we do to have the discipline we need for the next three days? i will give you a tip. i am assuming everybody is voting. i want you to rev up. here is my tip. i will tell you something good about me and something bad about me. the something good is that this , and ninth race, i am 8-0 i am not planning on losing tuesday. i do not lose elections. you can beat me at scrabble, you can be made at trivial pursuit, but i do not intend to lose. that is a good thing. the bad thing is i barely win. today but i ame , mr. barely likable enough. and in politics, that is not

bad. there is no other depression -- other occupation where you can be at 53% to be a winner. it doesn't work except in an election. the reason i barely win is i run in virginia. we are barely blue. so, to run and tough real estate and win or run like hillary is , doing against a headwind and win, you have got to have discipline. and this is what i tell myself in every race i have ever run. i am the underdog until they call me the winner. i am the underdog until they call me the winner. and i want you to put that thought in your head. i am the underdog until they call me the winner. we are the underdogs until they call us the winner. that will give you that discipline. it is not just about the election. it is about life. i think it is about life. >> we love you. senator kaine: i love you guys. thank you. [applause]

senator kaine: this is about life. what is it that unifies democrats? i used to wonder about that. traveling around the country as democratic committee chair i will be with the blue dogs here, progressives there. over time, i would see that we democrats are a big, quirky, eccentric, motley family. i say it with love and affection. will rogers said in the 1920's, i don't believe in organized politics, that is why i am a democrat. 90 years later, still a ring of truth. this is the oldest continuously operating political party in the world. what is it that unifies us? and it struck me, we are underdogs. we're underdog people. i do not know if it is our dna , or we choose to be that way.

in my church, we talk about a story that is well-known. the story of the good samaritan. somebody is at the side of the road who is beaten up and they need help. they are at the side of the road and they are asking for help. and everybody is on the road and they are all on the road and a whole lot of people walk right on by. they know better, there are leaders, religious leaders, people with titles people who , are smart. and they walk on by. and i bet back in the day, somebody walked by and said, you are a loser. that is probably what happened. [laughter] senator kaine: in the story, the samaritan in that story is an outcast. the samaritans were in kind of a marginalized position. this is not a story about yesterday. this is a story about today and tomorrow. that person had somewhere to go.

there is something that he was doing. when he saw the person that needed some help, he said, i'm going to set aside what i'm doing and go over and help. you know this. in every zip code in florida, virginia and every zip code in this country, there are people on the side of the road asking for help. they might have been a victim of violence, in a neighborhood, victim of a shooting like the tragedy in orlando. families torn up. they might be a person grappling with a cancer diagnosis or who how to affordut college for their kid. it might be a middle school are getting bullied and not knowing where to turn for help. it might be somebody that made a mistake when they were younger and they are looking for somebody to give them a second chance. it might be somebody that just needs a friend. you know what i am talking about.

we are all on the road and we have a choice. do we just walk by, or do we decide to go over? the thing that is cool about this story is, you do not have to have all of the answers. you do not have to have any of the answers. you do not even have to know the words to say. all you have to be willing to do is to say i will roll up my , sleeves up and i will figure it out instead of doing just the thing for me, thinking about me, i will put somebody else and the needs of someone else at the same level of my own and i will help this person. i will tell you this. hillary clinton is not a person that will walk on by. i am not a person who is going to walk on by. i don't think y'all are people that will just walk on by. you put that underdog mentality in your head.

i am the underdog until they call me the winner with an attitude of, let's be helpful to the underdogs around us. we will have the energy we need to face off against donald trump , the kgb, or anybody else, and win a big election on november 8. remember what i told you, if you do it in florida, it is done. it is done. let's go win! thank you guys, good to be with you. ♪ [cheers] ♪

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>> tomorrow, c-span's road to the white house coverage continues beginning with vice president biden had a hillary clinton rally in scranton pennsylvania. that is live at 11:45 p.m. eastern. p.m. eastern, donald trump in sioux city, iowa. clinton speaks at a campaign rally in florida. that is all tomorrow here on c-span.

>> election night on c-span. watch the results and be part of a national conversation about the outcome. the on location for the hillary clinton and donald trump headquarters and watch the concession speeches. , on demandon c-span that c-span.org, or listen using the free c-span radio at. >> now, alabama senator jeff sessions campaigns in new hampshire for republican presidential nominee donald trump. this is about 20 minutes.

>> right in front of the bus. face this way. >> are you ok? >> i got it.

>> nice to see you. >> glad to see you. >> this hat has been signed by everybody who is everybody. , the list goes on. you are now famous for the first time in your life, right? thank you so very much.

>> we will do pictures afterwards. >> this is a local senator. >> nice to meet you. >> we are from mississippi. >> renee powers. a good friend of mine, i went to elementary and high school with her. >> you stuck with a guy from the very beginning and i can't tell you how proud of you we are. you are not quite dressed for this weather, are you? [laughter] >> i still want a quick picture with you.

>> look at that. [laughter] >> hi, rebecca. peek-a-boo. >> he is going to win for sure. >> i think so. >> the barbecue and beer bash. thank you so much. >> you get moving. >> are you in charge? >> do you want to rile them up? >> we will do pictures after.

we will do a couple of speeches. in,f we could all bring it the senator is going to say a few words. senator sessions: it is good to be in your neighborhood. it is a real privilege for me to have an old friend, a really great guy, a great conservative. a real trump guy. it's exciting to have senator sessions here today from alabama. he is not dressed quite appropriately, but he will be all right. we will keep him warm. it will be a great night on tuesday. thank you. [cheers] >> i will let senator sessions say a couple of words to you. senator sessions: thank you for coming here and working. i have been told repeatedly you

probably have the best organized state in the nation. you are knocking on doors. making phone calls, doing the bread and butter work that takes us from a close election to victory. i think that is where i think we are headed, don't you? [cheers] senator sessions this is a : people's movement. you can feel it. there are people who are never been engaged in politics before. i was just up at the hotel and manchester and two guys came up to me. they left connecticut and are traveling around here to try to make a difference. they have never been active in politics. when i endorsed trump back in the early part of the year, i said this was a movement. it was more than a normal political campaign. i believe that is true. i believe people are not happy with washington. they are correct. they should not be happy with washington.

it has not delivered for them. the economy has not done well. we have not had the standards of ethics in management we need to validate the money we send to make sure it gets spent wisely. we need a lawful system of immigration. not the end of immigration, but a lawful system that serves the national interest. there is nothing immoral or unkind about having that kind of a system. we need a strong national defense but we do not need to be engaged in problems around the world that we can't make a positive difference in. it tends to make things worse. i think donald trump is where we need to be. bob and i serve together. he is a great american patriot. i love this guy. he stood every day for what he thought was right. we discussed the courts, how

important it is that we have judges that respect the constitution, who understand they serve under it, who don't believe they have the power to just redefine the words of the constitution so it says what they want it to say. they just want to reinterpret the words of the constitution. i will tell you i am excited , about it. i think the american people are excited about it. they want change. they want good management, integrity. they are not happy with the powerful special interests that meet and plot and get their agenda accomplished while our agenda is lost. and nobody pays attention to the people. we need to speak. >> absolutely. [cheers] senator sessions we want to hear : them all away.

jake tapper and the whole team ought to know what we think about this country, where we want it to go. and the great classical american heritage of justice and prosperity. thank you all for what you do. [cheers] senator sessions anything else : we need to do? [laughter] >> can i get a picture with you? >> we're going to do this organized. everybody will have an opportunity to take a picture.

>> we will try to get our attorney in here with us. >> regina. >> we need a group photo. >> bring out everybody.

>> we need you in the photo. >> come on out. >> which one are we looking at? >> me. >> can you hold up one second? [cheers] >> thank you.

>> everybody smile. >> i can see why no one can handle a camera. >> thank you, thank you. >> thank you. >> can i get the picture?

>> thank you. >> you will have to send me $100 for this picture. >> we will donate to the campaign.

>> we're working hard. >> there we go. >> let's take a picture with my. >> i will take it with my camera so i can send it to you.

>> veterans issues in the house. >> how are you? >> thanks for having me. >> new hampshire, two weeks ago -- boss.former [indiscernible]

>> thank you for your support and service. >> got bless you. >> all right, all right. >> some good people here. >> thank you very much.

>> you must be freezing. >> your local, right? >> is close, no doubt about it. close nationally and close here. i do believe that with the turnout and enthusiasm, it is going to make the difference. both pollsh polls --

show us ahead or right near, and every vote will count. i urge people to turn out. me in myeem to experience that elections tend to break one way or the other at the very end. it happens to reagan. i think it is going to break trumps way tuesday. >> new hampshire doesn't have that many electoral votes but why is it such an important state? >> we know that state after state can go either way. it can be extremely close in the electoral college and the state and a few others added together can make a significant difference. it feels to me like we have a movement of people.

not normal political people, people who love their country, who are worried about their country, who feel like and i believe are correct to feel that washington has not been paying attention to them, not paying attention to what they are concerned about, not pay attention to the real issues they face. i think that is a real problem in america. we need a person of action. very little action to improve america. symptom oft is a where people are today. >> specific questions for you guys. >> thank you, guys. >> washington journal, live

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>> here is our moderator, kathy brock. >> welcome to the debate. the candidates -- democratic congresswoman tammy duckworth and republican incumbent senator mark kir joining me, charles thomas and university of chicago's erica molinaro. carrot -- the candidate who answers first without a chance for a rebuttal. each candidate will have an opportunity to ask a question of their opponent and have an opportunity for a rebuttal as well. we will wrap things up with closing statements from each candidate.

rep. duckworth: i want to thank the women's voters, abc seven for holding this forum. i am running for senate because i want to work for hard-working families all across illinois. when i travel the state i hear people say that the economy is supposed to be growing but they don't feel it in their hometowns. are, i often hear that people are worried they will be -- worried they won't be able to afford to send their children to college. students leaving school with massive debt. it is time that we invest in our nation. that means we should have an opportunity at the american dream. to should be able to afford send your kids to college, pay off the mortgage, and save for retirement. thank you for having me here

today and i look forward to this discussion tonight. kirk, one senator minute. sen. kirk: i would like to take a moment to thank tammy for accepting my apology when i disparaged her family's admirable military record. you by honoring your service, especially that of you and your family. rep. duckworth: thank you. thatkirk: and i would say i would like to be sent back to the site based on my record of that we to make sure --e a republican was republican trying to serve as the glue between both of the parties. state, ivice to the have saved to export import bank

against my own party. moderator: our first question comes from charles thomas and goes to congresswoman duckworth. charles: shootings, gun related crimes, and homicides have reached epidemic proportions in the city of chicago. if you are elected, what will you propose in the united states senate to mitigate the violence here? --rep. duckworth: we certainly need universal background checks. i'm also the first candidate to put out a comprehensive criminal before reform proposal anyone running percent, including the incumbent. let's get rid of mandatory minimum sentences for

nonviolent, first-time drug offenders. violence,lk about gun we need to also talk about economic justice. i sat down and met some gang members. they said, if you would invest in manufacturing, invest in companies that bring jobs to the south side of chicago and i had a job, i wouldn't be involved in gangs. anything we do needs to involve economic justice as well as gun violence legislation and criminal justice reform. moderator: senator kirk. with the person who put together mothers against senseless killing in englewood. a vacant block to she can meet with the ladies there who had stopped gun violence on the street. based on my legislation i have put forward with senator

gillibrand with new york to ban gun trafficking in criminal organizations. we have to shut down the stores --ip that gun the relationship with gun stores that cpd tells us have contributed to many of the crimes in the city. i think theth: difference between us is that i have a comprehensive plan that doesn't just involve gun violence legislation. we also have to deal with economic justice. my opponent has said that he lacks the capacity to deal with police-community relationships. if you elect me to the senate, i will make sure that i have the capability but also that we will lead on this issue. as a senator, it is a responsibility to do that. question: our next

goes to senator kirk. i want to go a bit deeper in the gun control legislation. the truth of the matter is that congress has failed to work together and pass comprehensive while masstion shootings seemed to happen more frequently in america. what would you propose to preserve the second of the rights while keeping guns out of the wrong hands. ? think the most important thing is to make sure the wrong people don't get guns. voted for the ban of anybody on the no-fly list to buy a firearm. if you are too dangerous to fly on a civil aircraft, in my view, you are too dangerous to buy a firearm. i want to make sure that position is adopted by a bipartisan majority of the congress. with gunworth:

violence legislation, some of the things we need to do are universal and bipartisan -- universal background checks. sayof republican voters they support universal background checks. there is a bipartisan bill waiting to be voted on in the house right now. there is also another bipartisan bill that i am also cosponsoring that will close a loophole to allow gun store owners to convert their inventory to personal use and sell without background checks. we had a sit in in washington and i participated in it, and demanding legislation. many senators came over to support us. my opponent did not. on a day when we really needed the moral support, one of our senators was missing in action. we could get rid of body armor

piercing bullets. there are sensible things you can do without taking away people's second amendment rights. i would like to make sure we have magazine limits. i have also voted for the assault weapons ban. these commonsense measures -- we also need to ban cop killer bullets to make sure the body armor of our police force is always adequate. moderator: our next question goes to congresswoman duckworth. we know there is a real connection between violence and education. more than half the people in this country are incarcerated did not graduate from high school. it is no surprise that the lowest graduation rate are the toughest neighborhoods of chicago. what can we make sure to do to make sure these kids can have the opportunity for the right type of robert -- type of education and a path for

college? rep. duckworth: there is a lack of hope in these communities. if you are a ninth grader, what will you keep -- what will keep you motivated to stay in school? if the only choice you have is to get involved in drug trafficking or again -- or a gang, while just a high school if you have no hope of going to college? i will work hard to put together an economic plan that will deal with economic justice and , supportntrepreneurs helping businesses that will move jobs into the area. that weso make sure keep college affordable so that a young person will stick it out. when i was in high school and didn't know i could go to college, at least there were ways i could afford this. let's make college affordable, -- makemunity be

community colleges and technical schools free. sen. kirk: the best way to do this is not with a free government program like my opponent -- she was asked three times by the "chicago tribune" how much the free college program cost? $60 billion. it only cost $25 billion to go to the moon. legislation i put forward would allow every mom and dad in america to start a tax-deferred account to save for college. financial education of the next generation is probably the biggest payoff. father sits down with my sister and her name is right at the top of the statement that nothing is better for financial education.

this is what you did in stocks and bonds. to make sure child that she knows what a lifetime of saving and investing can do, that would help. keep our savings rate up to the chinese rate. rep. duckworth: the difference between us is that my opponent's solution is a wall street solution. mine is a main street solution. when my family went into extreme poverty because my dad lost his job in his 50's, we went through everything. 401(k) plan,been a we would have cashed it in. we need to have a plan that will be beyond wall street and 401(k) plans. let's make sure that we make college affordable for everyone who is qualified. moderator: our next question comes from charles thomas. charles: i want to go back to

your apology and beginning of this tape. apologized, but some are questioning your statement and saying that your question to her last week had racist undertones. how do you respond to those critics? sen. kirk: i am not a racist. i would say that my work with african-american entrepreneurs shows how much i care about a long-term solution to creating an african american entrepreneurial class that will help us fix neighborhoods like those on the south side. i am absolutely not a racist. i already offered apology. charles: what were you thinking when you said that? sen. kirk: i wasn't thinking. it was a mistake on my part. charles: any response, congresswoman? rep. duckworth: i think we

should focus on the issues. the problem is that he says things that he doesn't think through. he recently called the president a drug dealer in chief, referred to him as barack hussein obama. that is not acceptable language coming from a united states senator. let's talk about the issues. i would like to touch back on what we should be doing for folks in underserved communities. i talked about making college affordable. we also must invest in our education system. we should provide for infrastructure development, more stem and steam education programs, giving any kid a shot at the american dream. kirk, 30: senator seconds if you would like to respond. sometimes i have been too quick to turn a phrase. some of those things, i have already apologized for.

when it comes out, you realize it is inappropriate. our next question and he goes toa congresswoman duckworth. duckworth,resswoman argue healthy enough to perform the duties of the senate? rep. duckworth: very much so. i just finished the chicago marathon. i have so much going through all of the neighborhoods. i have released hundreds of pages of my medical records. transparencyfull and was very proud to release my medical records. i gained weight when i had my baby and have not gone back to my pre-baby weight. i probably should not have had that doughnut this morning. i am very healthy and i have supported transparency by releasing my full medical

"chicagond both the sun-times" and "chicago tribune" saw those copies. if you would like to see them, we will provide you with a copy. i would say that i have released a letter from my that says for my stroke i have made a full mental recovery. i also climbed the willis tower for the fifth time. , i tolde i was in there my staff that if they fall behind, i will rebuke them. rep. duckworth: i would like to ask the senator why he won't release his full medical records. i take him at his word that he is capable. my problem is that he has not been doing the job. i go to places all over the carbondale, belleville, he simply has not been there.

he has not been there for students, manufacturing. he supports businesses to send jobs overseas. the problem is, he is not doing his job. moderator: senator kirk, our next question goes to you. you have criticized your opponent over a workplace retaliation lawsuit filed against her when she was the head of the illinois department of veterans affairs. the two people involved in that action were featured in your campaign ads and they were your invited guests to a debate last week. why is this issue important? sen. kirk: it shows that, while tammy

duckworth has served as a war hero, that as an administrator, like the chicago tribune when they rebuked most of her veterans outreach efforts, they said they had fallen flat rate in our case, our campaign has not invented anything said by those women. they are only statements of people who actually worked for tammy. moderator: congresswoman? rep. duckworth: from the moment i woke up in my hospital bed after having been shot down, i have dedicated my life to serving veterans. veterans are my life work. i get up every day trying to figure out what to do better for veterans. it is why when i was a freshman, i passed legislation to help them deal with mental health care and dry when i was at the state of illinois, we opened 80 additional beds. it is why i continue to work on issues that deal with them veterans coming home and still needing to find jobs. i am proud of the work that i did to reduce the number of homeless veterans by 50% when i was the national cosponsor for that. my life'srans are

work. i will never give up on my vets and i will not let lawsuits, political, commercial prevent me from doing what is right by veterans. it is why i go to heinz v.a. i turned that entire program for insurance over to them and i sit in that room like the other veterans because they are my life's work. moderator: senator? sen. kirk: i would say that i have led the charge to make sure that we have uncovered the poor care that has been offered to veterans at the heinz v.a. i was told that they have cockroaches in the cafeteria and even served on to a veteran. what he got back for dinner, he stopped eating for two days. we understand from whistleblowers that they had not sent any embalming work in the morgue until the veterans were just sitting in the body bags until a local funeral director said to us that the remains came in liquefied form and were not

usable. moderator: thank you. sen. kirk: we need to make sure we bury our veterans with dignity. we undercovered all of that. moderator: congresswoman, the next question from charles thomas. charles thomas: this question is about change of policies under which syrian refugees might be admitted to the country. should religious beliefs and associations attending to religion be considered at all when a refugee applies for admission to the united states? rep. duckworth: i do not think we should create a litmus test for who can come to the nation, but i think anyone who comes to the nation, especially syrian refugees to be fully vetted by the agencies that do the work -- charles thomas: does it include a look at their religious beliefs and associations? rep. duckworth: i believe it will include looking at everything, including religious beliefs, as well as looking at their backgrounds. they do biometric checks, then being done by the fbi, cia,

homeland security, the state department, and it lasts 18 to 36 months. this is a thorough process. i did not serve in the uniform and defend this nation to ever do anything to endanger this nation, so i think we must have a robust process and allow the refugees to come. you cannot in this country go back on our founding values of who we are as a nation. there would not be religious test for those who come to america, not on those you love, your gender or your background. we are a nation of free people that welcome immigrants and we must remain true to that. moderator: senator? sen. kirk: my opponent says that we should accept a minimum of 200,000 syrian refugees, even though the director of national intelligence says he cannot -- in the testimony he gave to

congress, the director of the fbi, james comey, said that the common sense point that you cannot deploy fbi agents throughout syria in the middle of the syria civil war. i took testimony of the general and director of the fbi seriously. i think the wise and prudent action should repeat. postponed the program to figure out to these people were. moderator: congresswoman? rep. duckworth: my opponent is misquoting the fbi director. in fact, he was called that by "the washington post" and "the chicago tribune" that says the fbi director did not say that and he is also misquoting myself.

we are adding to the isis topic and a machine that says america hates islam, muslims, and i will not allow us to endanger american servicemen and women in harm's way by feeding that isis propaganda. moderator: the next question to senator kirk. erika maldonado: depending on whom we elect as president, your immigration reform, would you go against a republican president and your own party proposal if it contemplates building a wall, deportation, and separation of family? sen. kirk: let me answer this question in a language most important to the people on this issue. [speaking spanish] she does not speak spanish.

i think we need a reform immigration system. the reason i voted for the immigration reform bill is it contains the kirk amendment that says if you are not an american citizen, you are serving in the fireary and you come under combat, ou become a united states citizen immediately. that is led on the principle that if you fight alongside us, you are one of us. i was one of the bipartisan majority to make sure that we passed conference of immigration reform. erika maldonado: congressman, would you vote against that kind of plan? sen. kirk: in the long run, we need more border security. border security opens up the bipartisan space to have immigration performed and to bring the 525,000 people who are undocumented in illinois out of the sombra en nuestra sociedad.

necesitamos eso in this community. moderator: congresswoman? rep. duckworth: the problem with the senator is he is not consistent on this issue. when he is up for election, he votes one way and not up for election, he votes the other way. in 2007, he said the best way to combat, in his words illegal immigration, was to distribute free contraceptives in mexico and also voted against the dream act before voting for it. he was not consistent and could not answer your question. i believe in comprehensive immigration reform that must be fair, practical, and humane. when i moved back to the u.s. when i was 16, when my dad lost that job, even though i was a daughter of the american revolution, the sister of an american, my mom could not come with us. for those months when we were separated, those nine months, we suffered and i needed my mom there. i cannot imagine what it would

be like to be six years old and to have your parents deported overseas because you are american-born and they are not heard whatever we do, it must become preventive and we must humane about it. we need to get to work on this. moderator: congresswoman duckworth, u.s. intelligence officials identify isis as the number one terrorist organization in the world right now. the u.s. response has primarily been one of airstrikes and special ops forces. do you believe that that strategy goes far enough? if not, do you believe that we should have more american troops on the ground in syria and iran -- iraq? rep. duckworth: i think the problem we have right now --

first off, we must destroy isis. they are an enemy of the american people and freedom loving people everywhere. they are an enemy of our allies in the middle east, israel. the problem we have right now is that the american people do not know how many american troops are engaged overseas. i fully support airstrikes, special ops, the use of drones, but my position, why went to go to the united states senate, is to be there when the proposal is to ramp up and to say, but, if that is the case, then we need to have the new discussion of the authorization for use of military force, which is the guidelines by which we send american troops overseas. we must have an exit strategy. this is what it is going to cost in lives and treasure, and we need to do right by military men and women, so we are going to do this and that would make sure we have that discussion. the american people deserve to know. moderator: do you always know the cost upfront? rep. duckworth: you do not always know, but here's the problem, too often we have hidden the cost from american people. an example of when this came up recently as when the president proposed to the tune of $500

million in syrian rebels and sending them back with three weeks of vetting, i have posted because there was a hidden cost to did not bring up. when you give troops american-made weapons, you have just committed america to a long-term resupply of american caliber bullets, so someone with real combat experience, it is a point out with that task. i opposed it, i stood up to my president, i think the senator was wrong to support it. none of those weapons are working for america and now and hands ofe now in the isis. moderator: senator kirk? sen. kirk: i think the current policy of using special force in the united states air force, a point that we do not need boots on the ground but we need over the ground. the u.s. air force is very good at hitting targets. iraqi military is moving forward and they can identify american air force and that would make rapid progress against isis. i would say that using this strategy, we are likely to capture mosul. at minimal cost to the united states, and the key thing is to look at what happens afterward.

afterward, when we have the iraqi military, which is muslim, speaks arabic, and represents the armed wing of the elected government of iraq, it is much more likely to hold the character in the long-term without blood from the united states. moderator: we will move past the rebuttal. sen. kirk: let me if the day after the election, we could meet publicly at the billy goat and have a beer and show illinois family weekend married the hatchet, i would ask if you would do that?

duckworth: if i can have a diet coke, i would be willing to meet with you there. -- rator: duckworth: the question i have has to do with your act. you call it sexist. in illinois average make $12,000 a year less than men do. i don't know how you could call it sexist legislation when it theirnot just women but families as well. is $12,000 less to spend on food, education, every day goods. how can you call it a sexist piece of legislation? >> i am for equal pay. for the senator from

nebraska's legislation to allow anyone in equal pay to find out how much other people in the same company in the same position make. remember, this was written by the house democrats. the troubling part was it gave the right to of a big democratically connected law control of the rights of women just because it was democratically controlled. that as amake sure woman you do not have to let them take control of your life just because you are female. i think that is sexist. know the tagline "equal pay" is a good one, but if you are in the work place you should not

have legislation passed that .llows them to take control that is incredibly sexist and the reason i voted against that act. thinkuckworth: i don't the senator understands the lilly ledbetter act. it is not sexist. earn thellow women to same as men for doing the same job, something i enjoyed in the military and enjoy as a member of congress. i think women should make the same as men whether they work in government or the private sector. it will for equal work is not legislation. moderator: thank you. turning back to the panelists. >> senator, six years ago you promised during your 2010 campaign to repeal obamacare.

does that remain your position? senator kirk: i think we should keep the long-term legacy with coverage for people up to age 26 pre-existingre the role does not come in but i was very responsible when i first read about obamacare. only republican alternative. it had key reforms. the way to lower health care costs in america is to reform lawsuits in america. we have vast, open deserts of people where you caret get competent ob-gyn because of the fear of lawsuits. we want to lower the barrier. age 206i want to make sure is kept. at there is one key reform we want to keep. you as an american citizen

deserve the right to buy insurance from any state in the union. if you can buy car insurance from a green gecko in any state, you should have free insurance competition in every day. duckworth: the senator has voted to repeal the obamacare act in every chance he is had. every single time to repeal. i voted to fix it but also to preserve it. i voted to get rid of the medical device tax because the cost would be passed on to individuals. there are things we could do to fix the affordable care act. one of the fixes is to work to allow people to close up loopholes that currently allow people to sign on during the grace. have a major procedure and then drop it. the movement that was a bipartisan fix that if you sign on to the affordable health care

act during open enrollment and have a major medical procedure you need to keep it for the entire year to alleviate the cost over the year. things that can be done but we cannot put millions of americans out onto the street without health care insurance. kirk: i agree with present no -- i agree it is a crazy system. --ing sure we offer the higher we] -- make health care costs the more we restrict health care that is taking things in the wrong direction. congresswoman, many won't be able to rely on social security by the time they retire.

many people my age won't be other two, it either. [indiscernible] -- duckworth: one of the first things we can do that has a bipartisan support would be to raise the payroll contribution cap. right now if you make one million dollars, for example, you only pay into social security based on 10% of your income work hard-working americans who make 40,000, 50,000, $60,000 pay 100% income on for taxes. to do what myng opponent has supported, to raise the age for social security recipients. my mom relies on social security and when i go down to granite city or talk to home health care workers they social security

to retire. please do not raise the age. i do not know how mm going to make it beyond that. do tor thing we can extend social security is comprehensive immigration reform. we have 11 my people in this country, many being paid under the table and not paying into the system. that would help. way is tork: the best make sure we don't break the bank of the federal government. my opponent wants to spend more, tex moore, pushes further into the red. i want to spend less, tex less, get us out of the rent. if we don't do big spending proposals like my opponents free college plan for 60 main dollars, it will hurt people. the duty of illinois voters is to protect people in the state

that has already heard people in puerto rico and greece. in puerto rico and greece, the system is collapsing because the government is defaulting on debt. we have to make sure that does not happen to the people of the united states. , hisduckworth: my opponent leadership on us entering the of in iraq, accounts for 50% our national debt by 2019. almost a trillion dollars. he is no fiscal conservative. the person spending money to get us into a mess is sitting right next to me. what we can do to make certain social security is there is to make sure the top 1% pay their fair share. us immigration reform. i do want to invest in the economy. i do want to invest in the next generation of workers. to senatorquestion kirk.

233 days ago president obama thenated judgment girl into u.s. supreme court. to date, no senate hearings on nominated merrick garland to the supreme court. to date there have been no senate hearings on that. senator kirk: i was the first republican to meet with merrick garland and i encouraged others. a dozen followed my lead. rarely have i seen my opponent, one of the most in effect of members of congress by ratings. >> where do you think about where we are right now? the u.s. supreme court with only eight justices. is unreasonable

to say we're not going to confirm anyone. the constitution clearly lousy president to nominate. the reason i was the first republican to talk to merrick garland, i said i was you meet with them how can you supply any advice or consent? i disagree with ted cruz on this. when i go back i will say that to him. you cannot hold up the system for years and years. that is unreasonable. democrats would need presidency, they have the right to bring forward the nominee. that is the way the system works. rep. duckworth: my opponent would like to say he is a leader on this but he is not. he had a photo opportunity with merrick garland. he did send a letter to his colleagues to say please meet

with merrick garland but right after that he got on talk radio and told a conservative station he knew the hearing" would never happen. he was encouraging these meetings. what he should have done was to gather colleagues to send a letter to leadership. say, we will not vote for you until you have these hearings. he would not do that. it is smoke and mirrors. broken.em is i hope the democrats take control the senate because then at the very least the nominees, regardless whether it is president obama, trump, or clinton, can make sure they do their jobs. >> how do you fix it? if democratsh: have control of the senate will make sure the hearings happen. the american people would then see how qualified these people

are. what is happening right now is obstruction is some on the part of republicans. kirk: i disagree with the republican leadership and i told senator mcconnell that a hearing would be in the interest of the country. nationalbe on television. an event in which younger americans who want the current issues and want to watch the nominee answer questions would be healthy for the country. i argue that is why we should do a hearing. it is the right wing to do because they constitution gives the impetus to the president to make a nomination. >> before a ask a question, i want to ask senator kirk something. why did you vote for mitch mcconnell to be the senate

majority leader given the fact you such profound differences with him and some of the leadership of your party? when i stood for election for illinois i said i was pro-choice and pro- gun-control. i will be pro-whatever illinois needs. the leader understands somebody from illinois will tend to the left. that is the interest of the state. >> so why vote for him? senator kirk: mitch mcconnell is a life and anti-gun-control so i did not agree with him. you disagree about being disagreeable. woman duckworth, germinating to say? you just made my point. he has the meeting but does not take a real. he should be that leader in the senate and tell mr. mcconnell, i will not vote for you and 17 unless you agree to have this

hearing and vote. >> this is to congresswoman duckworth, the economic policy institute reports your home state, illinois, the land of lincoln, has the highest african-american unemployment rate among all 50 states. if you are elected, what will you do to reduce the african-american unemployment rate in the illinois, specifically african americans. rep. duckworth: one of the things i'm working on right now looking and talking to senator clyburn from southern illinois about the federal contract. for example, if we get a national infrastructure improvement plan, windows dollars come forward, we need to hold the federal government

accountable and the contractors for hiring minority is this is. knownically, women businesses, black-owned businesses. >> i am talking here about african-american specifically. absolutely.th: that is why the violence happened in chicago. we provide tax incentive for locate into the community. provide the training for the workforce which is why i believe we should have free technical education systems for people in that and brown communities they can go into the workforce immediately. we need to invest in education. kirk: with regards to african-americans only, i would with entrepreneurs where we brought together african-american entrepreneurs with business plans with competition, we did it at chicago.

rolodex and saw ] -- indiscernible sometimes think it might be on the south side. one of the ironic moments we had the wealthiest cornell graduate, also an african american, anti-said, i'm not even going to talk to you wish of done 2.5 many dollars worth of revenue. he could not even break through a make sure sherod got hearing. to get a business off the ground. to see everything sherod went through. example,e a specific

we actually did not hold contractors accountable for keeping jobs in the community. so many indiana forms came in and performed the work and hired people from indiana. we need to make sure the jobs remain in the community so we can enforce federal guidelines. i'm going to make sure for black-owned businesses, minority businesses, especially in these contracts to win these contracts. senator kirk: regarding vacant lots, i said we put together legislation that would take any american mayor if you have a vacant lot where nothing significant has happened for the last year, if you could do a investment where there would be no federal taxes for the first year. races in through the the real estate community to say, you want to operate without tax, do it on a vacant lot in this community. >> senator?

kirk, recreational 23 states and the district of columbia have passed a law for medical use of marijuana. would you support legalization of cannabis and why? sen. kirk: and i think this lower physical and mental. i think the country is not high enough. , am worried about drivers young drivers driving while high. the roads will become unsafe for her. medical marijuana like colorado, where the clinics are prescribing 10 times the amount that would be normally prescribed for people in the area. the effect itbout would have on our young people. >> we do not have enough data that supports one theory or the

other. senator kirk: in general, i think it lowers physical and intellectual performance. rep. duckworth: i disagree. in illinois, we should be expanding the use of medical marijuana. it has the potential to really help people with severe medical issues. for example, children with epilepsy who have seizures. veterans fighting posttraumatic stress disorder and brain injuries. my opponent says he protested because there are too many high veterans. i think veteran suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, from brain injuries, deserve to have the help. it is observed to help with other neurological disorders as well as cancer patients, to help them be able to eat to maintain nutrition. i think if we would expand and

implement in a controlled way the medical marijuana, we will get that data he mentioned that is missing to better and foremost whether we should move forward and any other direction. >> will you support it? rep. duckworth: yes i will. in fact, i supported allowing federal doctors at the eight facilities to talk to their patients about medical marijuana when they are in the state. we actually had a problem where somebody in a state that allows medical marijuana that is a veteran gets prescribed by their doctor, they cannot talk about it. there is a gag order. that is wrong. >> final word to you, senator. senator kirk: i highlight the work of dick durbin on this to come down hard on cigarettes smoking. we know there are about 7000 chemicals in a cigarette. the inhaling of a substance directly into the pulmonary , most people will not

consume marijuana with a filter. i want to make sure all the things we know that her bad about smoking, ingesting all those carcinogens does not sound like such a long-term health risks for people. >> our next question goes to calm his. a week ago yesterday, fbi director james comey told about a new set of the he believes are germane to the both hillary clinton. as a result, he has been harshly criticized on the election coming up for days from now. do believe he overstepped his mound and there should be roles that govern this kind of release post--- before the election? rep. duckworth: this is one of the things we will be dealing with when i get back to washington. i'm on the committee that upped into this before.

i am looking forward to hearing both sides of the issue. there should be guidelines. what i hope to happen as i am calling for the director to come forward with everything he has. bring everything to the table. if he cannot because some is classified to the general public then he needs to do a poor briefing to members of congress. we'll have a security clearance. it is not helping our democracy process at this stage. >> do think he missed up? rep. duckworth: i want to see what he has. i do. i'm happy to listen to them tomorrow from he wants to do that. it is not about whether or not he has the information, it is about the timing of the revelation. that is what i'm trying to get to. rep. duckworth: i think when it comes to law enforcement you have to follow what you think is right and i trust the judgment of this man in i am going to give him the benefit of the doubt, but government go so far and i believe in greater transparency but i want him to bring or what but he is gone and

then i will pass judgment on whether or not i think he overstepped his bounds. i have been in illinois campaign for months i've not seen what he is looking at but i will certainly do my job when i get back to washington to see what exactly he is talking about. sen. kaine: i admire director comey. i think he is an upstanding public servant. your committee said good things about him. all the good things they said director comey. everybody in this country is under law. just because you are under candidacy for president does not mean you can violate the law. the investigation should go wherever the investigator wants it to go. if you are running for president you should not have a get out of jail free card. >> but do you think since he sent his letter to congress a close to the election it was a bad idea or he should have done a? sen. cruz: i think the idea that director comey, who also works

for loretta lynch ui also voted for attorney general conspiring with republicans is not credible. rep. duckworth: i am going to hold my judgment and see what he brings to congress. it is highly suspect but again, i trust a man who is shown himself to be a professional but i want greater transparency and i am going to make sure that i figure out what exactly has happened in committee. >> winding our westin stamp. secondt question is 45 response from each of you with no rebuttal. this goes to senator kirk. >> both of you are outspoken in your opposition to donald trump candidacy for president of the united states. what if he is elected? what is going to be your relationship with donald trump, senator? sen. kirk: and i have not endorsed donald trump. i even asked him to stand down. the he said that about

mexican-american judge -- >> but how would you work with him? kirk: given his personality, i would probably have a lousy relationship with him. i don't expect them to win. i feel he does not have the temperament to be a good commander-in-chief. i have said that he should step down from the nomination. i felt that he is not -- there are many times when people will sell their souls to the party of doir allegiance, i will not that. i will make sure i always tell it the way i see it will stop in this case, just because he is the republican nominee does not mean he is the best. i will tell the people of illinois i feel he is not the right one. rep. duckworth: i'm going to they love theing country as much as hillary clinton. we are sick and tired, they are sick and tired of the republican

initiative because they will oppose every initiative from president obama. i will let donald trump when his policies are good for the country, when they make sense and are logical. but i am not going to oppose in every way because we already have that handed is not working for the people of illinois are the people of this great country. i am assuming he loves these country as much as i do. him accountable for making the decisions and when they are bad decisions i will oppose him just as i have oppose my own president when i disagreed with temples top >> it is now time for closing statements. -- one minute. rep. duckworth: i want to thank everyone for holding this form today. i am running for the united states in a because i want a nation the rewards hard work, not one that rewards wealth. i understand what families are going through. your turn to make ends meet.

save for that down payment or that mortgage. that pisa american dream. you want to put money aside so your child can go to college and you want a dignified retirement. that is what people are asking for but they don't see it happening in their hometowns. whether it is on the southside of chicago, across is great state. north to south, east to west, i see we have worked to do. if you elect me to the united states senate i promise i will work on economy that invests in manufacturing, invest in illinois, invest in hard-working the top 1%d puts behind the families that work and are the engine of our economy. senator kirk: i asked three about in the coming election for a man who is can please leave been independent of his party, putting illinois first. so many people in washington, d.c., but their party first.

in my case, had i been a typical republican voting against gun control measures. i broke from iparty just as i should have a hand put illinois first. we have got to put somebody in the mexican once to put somebody in the senate who wants to serve as the glue between both parties and makes sure the entire senate works for both parties and the people. bags that concludes this debate will stop we think both candidates. we thank abc political reporter charles thomas and univision's air come el dorado. we hope what you -- erica maldonado. we hope you vote on november 8. thank you and have a good night. ♪

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>> alaska public media presents debate for the state: election 2016. the alaska race for the united states senate. and now here is your moderator. moderator: good evening. welcome to alaska public media's debate for the state. tonight is the final face-off among candidates for u.s. senate. republican incumbent lisa murkowski is the chair of the senate energy and national resources community best committee. democrat ray metcalfe is a real estate broker and former state lawmaker. independent margaret stock is an immigration attorney. and joe miller is a

libertarian, an attorney, and an army veteran who won the republican primary for the seat in 2010. i'm lori townsend, news director for alaska public media, and i will moderate. we will begin with a series of questions from our journalists, our panelists. we are in anchorage, simulcasting on public radio and television. we will also air video questions from alaskans in fairbanks and dilling ham. if time allows, we will also have rebuttal. candidates, your answers will be timed. the limit for your first round is 60 seconds. liz has the first question. >> mr. miller, you have run for the senate twice before as a republican. why didn't you file as a republican this year and compete in the republican primary? mr. miller: i was very honored

to receive the unanimous endorsement of the board of directors of the libertarian party. they had their nominee step aside. i was not planning on running for the united states senate. i had a moose hunt planned for the week i declared. it turned out to be something that i think has provided alaskans with tremendous opportunity this season to have a conservative choice and have somebody who is going to fight for their liberties. i am excited to be in this race. i am thankful to my wife that she gave me the green light to do it. and i am excited about the platform of the party. it talks about bringing decision-making closer to home, where you can be in charge of the decisions that are made, you can bring accountability to your government, and you can actually have a hand in making changes that bring great impact of the state. >> ms. stock, being an independent party candidate has been central to your campaign, but you have also donated your -- coordinated your campaign

with the democratic party. are you independent in name only? ms. stock: i am an independent like most alaskans, but i needed the resources necessary to defeat a republican senator. the republican party was not willing to cooperate with me. in terms of sharing databases. the democratic candidates did not feel they have a viable candidate, and they felt i was a pragmatic problem solver that had a lot of experience in washington getting things done. and they offered me the opportunity the court with their campaign in hopes that i would defeat lisa murkowski and return a sense of a compliment to the united states senate and the partisan gridlock. >> how helpful have you been to the democratic party? ms. stock: not at all. i am not a democrat. i am simply using the campaign resources they made available to me because i purchased them. i am not a democrat, i am simply using the campaign resources they made available to me.

>> mr. metcalfe, you used to be a republican. now you say you are a bernie sanders-style democrat. you don't have party support. you don't have money in your campaign account. why should voters take you seriously as a candidate? mr. metcalfe: liz, i don't have a party support is not quite accurate. i don't have the support of some segments of the party. there is a split in the democratic party, and it boils down to efforts to remove certain corrupt practices from within the party, certain corrupt practices that are commonplace within our system. those who support me are the ones who support what i'm trying to do in weeding out the corruption, and those who don't support me are the ones who frankly adjourned the state convention to avoid allowing the

platform that had been proposed by the platform committee to be adopted, because it had my proposed anticorruption language in it, and it had been adopted by a 27-6 vote, and the old guard adjourned the convention to avoid ever having to deal with it. >> ms. murkowski, six years ago you ran as an independent and you won. your voting record shows you to be one of the most moderate republicans. you do not support donald trump. how sure are you you are a republican? sen. murkowski: i think it's important to correct the record. write-ina right-and -- in 2010. i was not my party's nominee. but i was a republican. i think this series of questions is interesting, because it

demonstrates that you have a republican who has actually changed from being a republican five different times to run in the general as a libertarian, you have a republican who switched to an independent supported by the democrats, you have a former republican who has at least remained true to the democratic party since about 2008 who is not supported by his party. i look at what i have done representing alaska as being one who supports alaska 100% of the time. so when i think about my voting , record, it's not as a moderate, it's not as a conservative, i have not changed my party label to be someone i am not for the purposes of an election. i have remained true to alaska. >> we will move on to an energy question.

>> the dakota access pipeline would move oil to major markets in the lower 48. at the same time, the pipeline route threatens lands and waters that are valued by the standing rock sioux tribe, both as sacred lands and as a water source. using this case as an example, mr. miller, how does the federal government balance the broader need for economic interest like development of a pipeline across the country with those of individual native american tribes? mr. miller: i am a tribal sovereignty advocate. i have made that clear since the beginning of this campaign. i think we need to have local control. people in control of their land need to be able to make decisions. thankfully in alaska, we are not confronted with those issues. the real ogre in the room is the federal government. it's not that we have landed in private hands where we can get transit for pipelines. it's where you have a situation where overbearing federal agencies, where senator murkowski continues to be cutting off the ability of agencies who want to invest in alaska, stopping that.

i think the way forward for alaska is to ensure that when we bring back there is federal agencies. landmark.want to open we need to use our political leverage. rather than the ever-shrinking amount of money. that's a problem we have. we send people to washington dc, but that easy money is getting smaller. we've got to rein in the federal government. >> how would that ease the conflict between the standing rock and the developers of the private land? mr. miller: if we had access in this state to the billions of gallons of oil under the ground that the government has prevented, there would not be fights like that. we would have semi-check oil we could refill the pipeline. we would not be looking at uneconomic ways to get at, things that create conflict with other people. >> thank you. >> mr. metcalfe, how would you balance national economic interest with tribal rights?

mr. metcalfe: if the federal government would have done a better job of consulting with the traditional elders prior to the planning process, this whole mess could have been avoided. that's just what should have happened. >> ms. murkowski, tribal rights versus national interest? sen. murkowski: we need to move our resources, and most would acknowledge that a pipeline is the most efficient way to move oil. we have got to be able to move resources for the benefit of the economy, for jobs, and for the country, but we also have to work with the tribe. it's called consultation. this is where i think we have lost sight of some of the trust, responsibility, an obligation to make sure there was confrontation well in advance. -- consultation well in advance.

in alaska, we have done that. we did it with the trans-alaska pipeline. we could not move forward without making sure that the obligation we had to native alaskan people was settled. we were able to do that, and we moved forward with an alaska pipeline. >> ms. stock, what is a way out of this situation with the dakota pipeline and the standing rock tribe? ms. stock: that's a great question. the standing rock sioux tribe believes that their interests were not taken into account, so we have protests going on. it is true that the pipeline is on private land. also, pipelines generally are safe, but we have had problems in alaska with the taps having occasional spills and linkages, reportedurse they get and we try to get them cleaned up, but the tribe is worried about their drinking water. we are familiar with that in alaska. that is something the tribe is

very much concerned about, because they felt their interests were not taken into account. in permitting processes, it is important to take into account the local community, the folks around the private land on which the pipeline is being held, because the pipeline can have effects beyond the private land on which it is going to rest. and now because of the protest the government is waking up and paying attention. i have heard today that they are considering an alternative route that may reduce some of the impacts. >> mr. metcalfe, to get things done in the senate, you have to have allies, relationships matter. who among today's senators has an approach to senate politics that you would aspire to? mr. metcalfe: i would have a fabulous ally in bernie sanders and elizabeth warren. i'm sure they would be my mentors as a freshman senator.

by the way, i'm the only person on this stage who has embraced the entirety of bernie sanders' agenda. >> what is it about mr. sander'' approach to senate politics that you would emulate? mr. metcalfe: he would become the chairman of the budget committee. i would support his agenda, what he wants to accomplish. he would have largely my support, and he will have 20 of allies, and i am sure he will have more allies given the outcome of this election. his national support is clear. >> ms. stock, the same question. who among today's senators takes an approach to senate politics that you might emulate? ms. stock: there are actually a number of senators that take approaches i would like to

emulate. i like senators who are very hard-working, who spent time working on bills, holding committee hearings, and her moaning oversight. as you probably know, i don't take money from corporate pac's. in contrast to my opponent to a taken millions of dollars from corporate tax. pac's.orate one senator i do admire is angus king, an independent from maine. >> ms. murkowski? sen. murkowski: in order to be successful in the congress, you have to be able to work with everybody. i have worked with and will continue to work with those who are the most liberal and those who are the most conservatives and those in between. i have worked with senator barbara boxer on fishery regulation issues and afterschool learning programs.

i have worked with senator lee from utah, very conservative, on issues relating to privacy and civil liberties. i have worked with -- in fact, i set up the arctic caucus with the independent angus king from maine to work through some of our arctic issues. it's the ability to work with all of your colleagues, and to reach out and bridge the differences that we clearly have, but make things happen. those who would suggest that you have to just stay in your corner and hope that others come to you is not a realistic approach to

legislating. >> mr. miller, in the past you have spoken of your admiration for senator cruz. does that admiration extend to his approach to senate politics? mr. miller: the main reason why, i think americans across the united states, alaskans, we have, want to come 11% approval rating in congress? the reason why is because most alaskans regard the senate and congress as corrupt. it is broken. it is not broken because it is not getting along well enough. it is broken because it is getting while long enough just getting along well enough to give themselves pay raises, exemptions from laws. it's a club, and it is a club that is destroying america. we are at $20 trillion in debt right now. alaska is the essentially a federal colony. alaska does not have access to most of its resources because things are not getting done in the right directions. there are a few outliers. bernie sanders has some great ideas. i'm not a socialist, most people understand that, but he wants to rein in the big financial powers. mike lee is a quiet guy, but he has expanded the resource bases that states can access. >> thank you. >> i'd like to follow-up, when

was the last time congress voted themselves a pay raise? mr. miller: several years ago, but the problem, 11% approval rating is the consequence of a congress that constantly exempts themselves from laws that they pass a on others. goes up exponentially when somebody gets there. why? because there is insider trading, and those in congress refuse to apply those laws to prevent insider trading. >> thank you. you have to leave it there. >> let's move on to immigration. ms. stock, this is your area. what do you say to those who look at the terror attacks in san bernardino, manhattan, and orlando and say it is unsafe to admit muslim immigrants because they or their american-born sons could become radical jihadists? ms. stock: we have always had a problem in america with folks who get angry at the government

-- and decide to attack it. timothy mcveigh blew up the oklahoma city federal building in an act of terrorism that was initially attributed to muslims, and it turns out he was a roman catholic. we are always going to have a problem with terrorism in the united states, and what is important is to figure out what causes the terrorism. it's not necessarily tied to a particular religion, though at one point in time lots of the folks committing the terrorist attacks profess belief in a particular religious system. most important thing to fight terrorism is to have good intelligence, and that includes intelligence that talks to the communities from which the terrorists might come to try to find out who is going to radicalize them. most terrorists in the united states today were a result of people getting radicalized over the internet, and we do not have a good handle on how to stop that. we need to have a conversation about how people get radicalized over the internet. and working with our

intelligence agencies we can stop terrorism. >> mr. metcalfe, do you believe the u.s. should admit more syrian refugees to help with the massive crisis? mr. metcalfe: in our largest immigration port, there is a big statue of liberty, and i remember why it's there. we are a country of immigrants. just before the second world war was heating up, we turned a way a ship load of jews who got returned to germany, and many of them died in the camps. it is a stain on our history for having done so. we should vet as best as we are able, but when there is a humanity crisis like this, we have an obligation to open our arms. i ask myself once in a while, and i'm not a religious man, but what would jesus do? i think jesus would open his arms and say take care of these people, they are my people. >> mr. miller, what is the right response during this refugee crisis? mr. miller: i think it is absolutely insane that we would be living in thousands of refugees with inadequate background checks.

we know it is not being done properly. the government intelligence agencies are telling us it is not being done properly. and in this time of heightened security issues, why don't we address those issues? i keep on hearing about how, oh, we have got to tap down individual liberties, we've got to have an nsa surveillance state that listens to everything you say on the phone, that is able to track everything you do on your computer. there are a lot of common sense things we can do like not letting in radicals. i mean, thousands of radicals. you look at this refugee program, it does not make sense. we are letting in many people, some great people, but a lot don't have adequate background checks. those are the risks we cannot undertake as a country if we want to maintain security.

>> ms. murkowski, last year you call for a pause for allowing syrian refugees into the united states to allow for time for an assessment of the vetting process. what is your take on that now? what do you think of the vetting process? is it sufficient, and is it time to let more syrian refugees into the country? sen. murkowski: if you listen to all three of us, we agree that the vetting is an important part of it. making sure we put the resources and intelligence there, making sure we really understand who is seeking to come in. i think it is important to note, though, that the refugee process, the screening process that we have, is much more rigorous. the time period in which it takes someone to go through that full process, to actually come into a state like alaska, is almost a two-year process.

there is a level of vetting that is a higher standard than you would see if you just got somebody who is going through a regular immigrant process. am i satisfied with where we are? no. do i think we need to be doing more to make sure that we have the level of assessment and analysis, and then making sure that we know what's happening with these individuals come into our country? it's important. >> our next question is going to come from us from our media partners in fairbanks. it is a question from a question from longtime fairbanks resident mary bishop. >> hi. my question is about tribal jurisdiction over certain lands in alaska. certain tribes can now put their

land in federal trust. do you think this is a good thing for alaskans? >> all right. let's start with you, ms. murkowski. how do you square the alaska data claims settlement act with the territorial jurisdictions that tribes would gain by putting land into trust? you have one minute. sen. murkowski: in alaska, putting land the into trust was not considered as part of an opportunity, if you will, simply because we do not have reservation status here in the state of alaska. it was not until, as mary said, a recent decision out of the administration that would allow for land into trust here in alaska. i have been pressing on this issue because i think there is a great deal of controversy about what does this exactly mean. there is not agreement in the state itself as to what this means. it does not mean more federal

resources to allow for greater public safety. that's an issue that we need to address. this is still something that i think we are all, as alaskans, looking to determine, what does this really mean in a state like alaska where indian country does not exist? >> thank you. mr. miller, would you try to put the brakes on alaska tribes who want to put land into trust, or do you think the process should proceed? mr. miller: it's tricky, because land into trust is not clear to a lot of people, especially in alaska. it's been done before, and it may end of causing land to not be able to be modified. there are a lot of natives that are divided on this issue. what we have to do is seize upon those issues that we can work together on. with tribal sovereignty, we can actually joined together with the state and push out the ogre in the room, the federal government. the federal government is keeping you away from your

resources, has overtaken 100 million acres of alaska lands. they are now maintaining fish and wildlife management. could you imagine a cooperative approach of the state and the tribes to manage the resources of the land, and displace the feds on federal land? better yet, imagine a scenario where we take the federal land and start divvying it up to the stakeholders in the state? the state, the tribes, and create a whole new renaissance. we can do it together, but we've got to put aside these old divisions and work for a bright future that i think alaska can promise. >> mr. metcalfe, your thoughts on federal protection for tribal lands. mr. metcalfe: the question was, is a good for alaskans? i think the first question needs to be, is it good for the villages? the villages do need better local control. they need protection from being overwhelmed by the corporations around them that they are a part of. but as other people have said,

it's new. we do not know what it is going to look like. congress needs to get out in front of this. it does not have to look like a reservation. it's already happening. there has been tribal recognition across the state by the federal government. there is one application already processed which will probably go through for land of trust. we need to get in front of it, shape what it is going to look like, and make it work. >> ms. stock, same question. ms. stock: we have a very unique situation in alaska. unlike the lower 48, our alaskan native corporations are a unique institution, and the relation between the tribes and corporations is unique. the land into trust idea has been proposed as a way to solve local problems. of course it is going to take years to figure out what the process will be and how it will work in alaska, because it is being applied in a unique situation.

i do support tribal sovereignty and the idea of government-to-government relations, and i think it is worth exploring the idea of land into trust because people are asking for it. >> thank you, candidates. for our audience, this is debate for the state with candidates vying for u.s. senate. we are getting close to half way through the evening, and i would like to now offer time for candidates to ask a question of one of their opponents. you have 20 seconds to ask your question, so please be succinct. mr. metcalfe, do you have a question for one of your opponents? mr. metcalfe: i have a question for margaret. what do you call it when a mayor is found to be hiding gifts of alaska's largest real estate developer, gifts worth tens of thousands of dollars while the same mayor was giving tax

exemptions exempting the gifting developer of over $10 million and taxes? would you call this bribery? i don't know -- >> i don't know right you are talking about. do you want to clarify? by metcalfe: it was detailed largest from alaska's developer to the mayor and it detailed -- >> what is your question? what youlfe: i asked thought about this? >> i don't understand the question. will admit i went on a three-our tour with ray because he said he had a tour that was interesting. we drove around and t accuse

most of the democratic leaders of corruption. he told me he had helped to convict various politicians. whole pile ofe a papers i could not make heads nor tails up. i would assume since we have history of taking things as prosecutors, he took these from or to a prosecutors at some point and they found them of no concern. mr. metcalfe: the same tour i gave her i gave others. toy flew a crew up here juneau. then they went up to washington, d.c., to take the tour and it resulted in the indictment of several legislators. what relevance does this have to the current senate campaign, we will move on to ms. murkowski

, you have the opportunity to ask a question of one of your opponents. ray, i willi: direct this to you. we have been debating health care for years. the macarthur me state and nationally have been pushing a single-payer system. wholeheartedly with this approach but as the democratic nominee, why do you for athis will work alaskans? >> you have one minute, mr. metcalfe. mr. mike cap i believe in bernie sanders proposal for a single pair texas them. the current is not working. i have had a company that provided insurance for employees. the insurance companies refused to pay when they had an obligation to pay. they would constantly come in and say, here is your new

policy, less than the other guys and then they would double the policy in short order. it just did not work. you have an accident, send them a bill, they would forget who you were. that system is not working. never did. i am now on medicare. when you turn 65, everybody in this room will be on medicare. the world reason on we cannot expand medicare to simply cover everybody. bags thank you. thank you. >> i wholeheartedly disagree with a single-payer system. inputs the government control of care. access is a critical issue in this state. quitea is collapsing frankly because of this. states need more flexibility and choice, not less.

>> mr. miller, do you have a question for one of your opponents? star miller: senator murkowski, you have long been a critic of the courts and have called to pull alaska from the ninth circuit. to have been opposed president obama's so-called hand-picked nominees but you have even voted for some of them. helped elevate the same activist to the bench. senator murkowski: i would remind you that the two nominees that president obama has put before the senate, justice kagan in justice sotomayor, i voted against. have fair to recognize i taken an approach that when it comes to ensuring there is an opportunity for an up or down vote, particularly if you look

at district court nominations is not anustering approach i think is appropriate and i have allowed for judges to go forward so they can receive in up or down vote. but in terms of putting a rubber on any nominees, i have not done that and i think it is reflected in the votes i have made. thank you. mr. miller: part of the -- we know this from wikileaks. an e-mail said, the judiciary is quoted as saying you were going unless the good one is a child pornographers. i don't think that is a good

standard to go by. there is a for-four split right now in the supreme court. effectively the second amendment -- moderator: we have to leave it there. a i will ask joe miller question. joe, six years ago you stated that this debate that quote the central government has no role in providing for a government health care plan. that is a direct quote. campaign,rent theiscernible] -- prior to aca alaskans could not get insurance on any private market because they had pre-existing conditions, they did not have a -- is it hypocritical to rail against government-provided health care when you yourself

have regularly participated in government provided health care? [crosstalk] miller: admittedly i am a veteran and i have hearing loss. i will fight or every veteran in this state to ensure you have the coverage, that sacred trust between the government and those who have served is upheld. that is something that has. happened -- that is something that has not happened. understand when obama claimed that you can keep your doctor, everybody found out that was a lie because most of us do that.able to premiums have gone skyhigh. i talked to one guy, when up so high it was a 20% in his net income. inerally, this results

control, inefficiency, less choice. i alaskans want a system where you can judiciary. there. that is something i pledge to help election -- alaskans with. ms. stock: i am under the impression that joe does not have private health insurance on a private market. he has it from the government. since you are against all government provided health care presumably that means you would medicare, medicaid, veterans administration, revert everything to a market system? mr. miller: not true. moderator: we're going to take a video question from telling him dillingham.

importanto secret how this is. it is the cornerstone. my adult life, we have looked at the threat of a large scare -- large scale mine. if elected, will you support, as we do, they epa use of the clean water act to support the bay? ms.rator: let's start with stock. you have 45 seconds to respond. ms. stock: i am opposed to the minds. i think it is the wrong mine in the wrong place. i am opposed to the idea that we do mining and a place that would harm a renewable resource. the bristol bay salmon watershed is a remarkable place and it is renewable. it is important that we do not

harm that. i'm not opposed to mining but it must be done in a way that protects the environment and the epa does play a role. the government has been talking about rolling back the power of criticaly water is a resource in alaska. many depend upon the water and the ground. it is very critical to protect the environment and the epa plays a crucial role. >> i have been medical of the epa intervention. i have said that there needs to be an appropriate process for any development project we have. the epa should not be moving forward with a preemption on a project before the project has been laid down. i've had many conversations in bristol bay with people who have concerns about the balance.

none of us is alaskans want to exchange one resource for another. we not going to trade fish for gold. we need to know we can access the resources safely, keep the amazing fishery safe. problem, we must have a resource we can respect. metcalf: i believe it must comply with the clean water act. that is not the only problem. i see no problem in developing it with our current tax system. we don't get paid for. why would we? leave it in the ground. >> i believe the answer to many of our problems -- part of the reason we have lack of purpose

-- last week talking to people about how they want jobs. one we have opportunity for jobs such as the gold mines and resource development, we should seize those and make sure they are hiring alaskans. especially made of alaskans. first. state and local needs to be in charge of the cross -- process. if you are in that area, you should certainly take part in the rewards or have the ability to stop the project. >> we have the longest running vacancy on the supreme court in the country's history. you said you respect did republican senate leadership decision not to hold hearings. any sitting president will not be able to get nomination when against opposition.

>> i think this political environment we have been in the past year has been intense to say the least. nominationd jacked a as critical as that of a supreme court justice. i think it is important that you allow for the political temperature to subside a little bit. the chairman made a decision that he was not going to move forward with the hearing. i am not on the judiciary to many but imho i'm in hand i do know when i call a hearing ike's expect the people on my committee would respect will we are doing. i have respected the role the chairman has played as we deal toh a vacancy that does need be filled and will be filled i believe when we have a new president. isn't the right decision to hold up the nominations? mr. miller: senator mikulski

said mitch mcconnell got involved and of course mitch mcconnell as senate majority leader said, no you can't do that. i will tell you right now, it is for-four. or justices who say the constitution is -- if america garland would've gotten a vote, gone forward as the president appointed, your rights as you the them would be over for second amendment. i can assure you i will do everything in my power to fight everywhere i can to fight what would take away your second amendment rights and if i've to stand for a whole week to filibuster a justice who is taking away your second amendment right i will do that. will protecte, i your second amendment rights. a processsupport is

that would allow us to get confirmation to allow for the advice or consent to move forward which is exactly the role the senate plays. >> is that different from an actual hearing? >> he has suggested that somehow or other i supported merrick garland. i want to make sure people understand what i support is allowing -- you can absolutely [crosstalk] metcalfe: first of all, merrick garland is not that, he is middle of the road. i think it is wrong to try to

delay the hearing all the way to the next presidency. if elected, i can tell you i would vote my conscience. ms. stock: i think it is a terrible situation. the longest vacancy on the supreme court in history. a result of partisan abstraction is some. previously it said it was a matter of good governments to hold a hearing. there is no reason to leave a vacancy on election year. now they have said they're going to hold up the vacancy for four gets if hillary clinton elected. we're going to have a 4-4 decision. it is ridiculous and a copout to blindness on the judiciary committee. if you are a leader, senator, you take a position and stand

up. speak out. not caught up out. you caved in. ] rosstalk -- tweeted that's what happened. moderator: we need to move on. next question. this will probably also bring some heat. it is on abortion. candidates you will have one minute. course would, what you follow to change america's abortion laws and policies. >> i think a nation that basically sacrifices -- if we do .ot protect life if we don't protect that, what rights are up for grabs? i think they are all up for grabs.

i think an indicator of a nation that is willing to defend or not defend its defenseless is something we should consider. i will do everything i can to make sure our judges are pro-life. i think that life itself, i am proud to have the endorsement of alaska right-to-wife, is -- the federal government, is it going to protect life and if not, what else will it allow to be taken? bills would you write to change the policies and laws? >> i think the constitution is sufficient. the 14th amendment says no life -- be deprived without the of law. >> mr. >> you are a pro-choice candidate. will you support for funding

for planned parenthood that provides health care as well as abortions? mr. metcalfe: i would. >> ok. why? mr. metcalfe: for one reason, from a libertarian party, that joe is a part of, they believe that a person has a right to control the wrong body. mr. miller: that is not the platform. mr. metcalfe: the national libertarian party subscribes to that. i have no desire to control a uterus, frankly. i can't imagine why someone, a group of men in a u.s. senate would want to. >> throughout your career it seems no issue has been as thorny for you as abortion. your votes related to planned parenthood funding have angered both sides. can you clarify where you stand? sen. murkowski: i do not like abortion. i don't think any of us like abortion.