comments about trump. in the middlets east, and scotland, panama, they do not understand the modern world. they don't think globalism in a sense of selling out america is a useful or practical thing to do. in that sense, they will be firm and top, but i do not know that they will be harsh. >> i happen to be a reagan kid. gingrich young adult. 43 bush kid and one of the senior advisors for the national diversity coalition for trump. one of the things everyone is talking about foreign policy, but we need to look at domestic. unfortunately, as a conservative, i've been a conservative all of my life, but

we have to get into a form where we look at places and i applaud the president-elect for going into flint, michigan and having people like mr. percy jones from atlanta getting with the governor, trying to solve that problem. but what bothers me, i am from maryland. i was shunned as a candidate because my governor who happens to be a republican did not push our president-elect. how do we form a reality in our own party that they have to get on board or get out? mr. gingrich: i think what we have to do, and i think what president-elect trump is trying do both in his appointments and other activities is we have to , be ready to go everywhere in america and be prepared to represent everybody in america

and i think -- i don't think they suggested the idea of a new deal for african-americans just as a passing thought. i think they're very serious about it. i was talking to the vice president yesterday and he was on the way to a meeting with 30 african american business leaders in new york and they are very serious about thinking about how do we ensure -- this is not political. if you believe in making america great again, you want to make sure americans have the chance to be great again and that is a key part to what trumpism is all about. >> mr. speaker, thank you. i'm from tv tokyo. i'm wondering how you feel about the american media's handling of the report of russian influence in the election outcome? thank you.

mr. gingrich: this is an example of what i mean by a watershed. in the old days, and the old order, we would have taken them seriously. we would have felt bad about it. we would have been on defense for weeks. this is why i want us to use the term propaganda media, not news media. the entire story is a lie. the director of national intelligence does not agree, the federal bureau of investigation doesn't agree. who it is ciae agrees because no one talks on someone in the post talk to a friend of theirs with a guy from georgetown with the card that says cia and so they said this is great. first of all -- this is one of those things were you have to say to yourself -- this is why i go back to the essay on

intellectuals yet idiot useful. and i want you to follow a for a minute. you understand how big the changes going to be. the obama administration is cheerfully saying gosh, we are so utterly incompetent that the russians may have interfered with our elections and we didn't know it. that is the heart of their defense. that really reassures me about the national security of the country. second, you have hillary, whose defense is apparently somebody from the fsb which is the replacement for the kgb apparently got to her and the fsb convinced her to set up a secret server in her bathroom which is an old russian device. honey trap used to mean sex, nowadays it means bathrooms. they convinced her to delete 33,000 emails and the same agent convinced her to lie about it and you have to ask yourself, when seven-year-old come in and say my dog ate the homework, it's one thing.

when the former secretary of state who is a nominee walks in and goes i think the russians must have done it because i don't think that was because i was incompetent and a crook and nobody believed me -- this is why we are in a different world. political correctness is going to rapidly die and we are in a world in which we get to tell the truth, and the truth is the washington post lied just as the new york times was deliberately propagandistic in his description of dr. price and the rest of us ought to get a habit of calling them on it. these people are not newspeople, they are not reporters, they are propagandists, they write junk and they write junk with a deliberate left-wing bias and we ought to take them to task every single time they do it and on television, we ought to do the same. i admire kellyanne conway because she represented the new order. every time somebody on msnbc or cnn tried to go at her, she would reframe it. she would not allow them to set the terms.

that is what we have to have when i talk about a movement. every citizen has to stand up and say we are going to fight to make america great again. if you don't want to fight to make america great again, i recommend you go home or we're going to run over you. thank you all very, very much. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> c-span's washington journal live with news and issues that impact you. coming up this morning, former

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ellison and the possible next leader of the democratic national committee will outline his policy. >> c-span where history unfold daily. in 1979, c-span was created as a public service by america's cable television companies and is brought to you today by your cable or satellite provider. >> representative-elect anthony brown, you are a familiar face here in this area. what did you do before coming to congress? >> before i had the privilege of representing the district, i served as lieutenant governor for eight years. with governor martin o'malley and before that, i spent eight years in the maryland general assembly in the house of delegates. i served on a number of committees.

i served as vice chair of the judiciary committee and finished my eight years as the majority whip. about 16 years in public service and state government, i am looking forward to bringing that experience and the work with constituents and issues here to washington, d.c., and capitol hill. >> what about that work do you think will help you here on capitol hill? >> a few things. one is whether your work in a state legislature or the executive branch, what you learn is you get things done through compromise. finding consensus, finding common ground. agreeing to disagree where we do but where we have a commitment to getting things stand. so for eight years in the legislature i did that on some very weighty issues as well as as lieutenant governor. infrastructure investment, the -- infrastructure investments, domestic violence, early

childhood education, college of portability, trying to find common ground. i hope to bring my experience to washington. i am excited about the congress. there seems to be a real interest in getting things done in washington. i am hopeful we will find common ground on these core sets of issues so we can go back to our constituents and say, hey we are making government work or you. >> why did you want to run for a house seat? >> for me it is always looking for opportunities to serve. i grew up in a home where my father taught his children, my father and mother, the importance of service. i served in the united states army on active duty and in the , as ies here and in iraq mentioned. and in the house and as lieutenant governor said for me being a member of congress is another opportunity for me to serve the constituents in the fourth congressional district. there are a lot of important issues.

i have experience with a number of them but i'm very excited about this privilege. >> you did run for governor. you lost to larry hogan, republican. what did that teach you about politics and about coming to washington to serve in the house? >> 2014 was a life lesson. a lesson my father taught me and a lesson i try to teach my own children. that is, sometimes in life you have successes, sometimes you have setbacks and even in the face of setbacks if you believe what you are doing it for me it is public service, pick yourself up, brush yourself off, stay in the fight. my fight is for good schools and safe neighborhoods, creating neighborhoods and a strong economy that crates jobs for more and more. uper 2014, i picked myself and said, hey this is what it is all about. stay in the fight. if there are more opportunities to serve, do it.

that was a life lesson i learned and i can tell you just does hillary clinton said on wednesday morning, after her defeat, just two weeks ago, it hurts. because you put your all into it. a lot of people were there supporting me. volunteers and others. i am grateful for that and that is why i also felt an obligation to them to continue to work and continue to fight. >> how would you describe your ideology?>> -- your >> one of compromise. certainly i believe i am progressive on many issues, you know i support for example reasonable gun regulations. i do believe that government is the backstop for many and it should serve the role of making sure people do not fall through the cracks and that is why i support investments in equity and funding public education. i believe for example when it comes to investment in transportation and

infrastructure that we should partner with the private sector. public-private partnerships as well as traditional ways of funding infrastructure but i say on many issues i am progressive, a lot of economic issues i'm probably what one would consider more moderate, looking for partnerships with the private sector, but i think first and foremost i described my ideology as one of consensus building. serve? do you hope to on what committees? >> that is the $64,000 question that every new member is asking. with my experience as lieutenant governor, my expense any armed services, there are a number of committees i think i could add value to, when offending the house armed services committee, the other being transportation infrastructure. i led the charge and maryland that will now be the delivery of

the purple the purple line in the capital region area. i have done a lot of education and early childhood education. there are a number of committees and i am very excited about the chance to serve on the house armed services committee. >> tell us about your family. >> i am blessed with a wonderful wife, carmen, who is very supportive of my public and she, too, is you know, a professional. she works inside the home and outside home helping raise kids. our three children as i mentioned. i have a daughter who is at the university of maryland at college park in her last year, so that is pretty exciting for her. i have two 16-year-old boys. not twins, one is about to turn 17. it is great. it is a blended family and my 16-year-old son jonathan we adopted as an infant. i have a stepson, anthony. there are a lot of anthony's in our home. >> when did you decide to adopt?

>> you know, i believe every child, you know, deserves the opportunity to be raised in a loving and caring home and at the time, my wife and i were looking to expand our family and we knew there were many children who wanted, deserve to be in a loving, supportive family and we thought we could do that, so we adopted jonathan. what a joy. we thought that, you know, we were doing jonathan somehow a favor by bringing him into our home and we learned the gift and the favor was all his towards us because he has just been a wonderful addition to the family. >> any mentors for use writer your political career? >> a few of them. first, my role model and not a political mentor but muhammad ali, who i think taught all of us that a few things. one is that nothing in life comes easy and no matter how easy he made it look, he reminded us it took a lot of

hard work. he used to say that you know, he would run long on the road before he got to dance under the lights. he worked hard. i also admire and respect him because he was willing to sacrifice what achievements he made to speak out publicly on issues that were important to him and at the time it was his opposition to sending u.s. troops to vietnam and it cost him his heavyweight belt. that he was able to regain that. most importantly he spoke on on , what was most important to him. i look at him as a role model. former attorney general steve sachs helped me out a lot. i look at former members of congress. elijah cummings who is a current member and has been very helpful to me over the course of my career. holier,yer -- stanley the democratic whip supported me in my run for governor. we've had a great relationship throughout, so i know that, you know, where i am today is because of the lot of hard work through so many marylanders who

paved the way. i am grateful to come to congress and serve. >> anyone you are looking forward to working with our meeting or anything your looking forward to working on here? >> in terms of what i am looking forward to working on. i would like to continue to do the work in education that we have been working on and maryland and that is expanding early childhood education. i do believe every four-year-old in maryland and across his country should have access to affordable quality early childhood education. -- are in pre-k, they then start kindergarten with a higher degree of success. the numbers are tremendous for how well they do. graduation rates and prospect after high school. so, early childhood education. more career technology education. we think a lot about preparing students for college and we think of for-year institutions but there are many jim a

four-year degree is not what is really on the horizon right after high school, that these students need something as well to prepare them for the workforce. nowsed to call it a vo-tech a college career technology so i would like to welcome that as well. then college affordability, whether it is expanding the pell grant, incentivizing higher education, looking for ways to make college more affordable. those are some of things in education field i would like to work on. in terms of people, i am excited about being down here and the 435 members of congress, republicans, democrats, men and women representing districts throughout the country. i am looking forward to getting to know all of my colleagues on the hill. >> you are replacing representative donna edwards who ran for the senate this time around. has she given you any advice? like she has given me a lot of assistance in the transition.

-- you any advice? >> she has given me a lot of assistance in the transition. really the folks at non-constituent services which is a top priority for me on for donna. how do we make government work whether it is a veteran having it for call the getting their disability claims approved, whether it is a senior citizen who is having some difficulty and rolling in medicare and a host of other constituent service issues. we had a long conversation about that and she shared with me how her office operates. she offered a lot of the census that's a lot of assistance. -- a lot of assistance. the other advice you gave me was look, as a first-term member dumping bashful. don't hesitate. there is no such thing as when your turn. speak up and being gauged on issues important to end issues that are important to our constituents. >> that was anthony brown, we appreciate your time. thanks for talking to c-span. >> thank you very much. >> a look at why presidents are seen as successes and failures. we spoke to elaine k mark on why

residents fail. this is -- on why presidents fail. this is 50 minutes. alain kamarck is back at our desk. our topic is white presidents fail which is the title -- topic is why presidents fail which is the title of your book. what leads to successful presidencies. in your book you layout three -- three thanks that a successful president need to balance. guest: a successful president like a leader in any organization needs to get the policy right, needs to be able to communicate the policy and needs to be able to implement the policy. those three things should be in balance because it is wonderful to have a good policy, but if it never happens, or as it happens, it gets all messed up, no good. host: modern presidents tend to

lose that balance at what part of that gets out of balance? guest: i drew three circles twice. the verse one has been in balance. the second one has policy as a small circle and implementation as a small circle and communication taking over everything. modern presidents get to the presidency by talking a lot and then when they get to the white house, they keep talking and speechifying. now with the trump tweeting. there is constant machines. what happens is this pushes out the need for making sure that what you say is what you do. the problem comes because once you say isn't what you do or doesn't happen and blows up on you, modern presidents have discovered they cannot talk their way out of the mess. host: examples where this

obsession with communication, where it has led to failure? guest: there are so many. democratic ones in republican once. -- ones and republican ones. one of the big ones for george bush was the failure to react in a timely manner and effectively after hurricane katrina. there was nothing that george say or his campaign could that could erase the image of those people in the superdome in new orleans. this was a massive government failure and massive government failures are massive presidential failures. moving on to a democratic president. there was nothing president obama who is quite eloquent could say to the people who were trying to get health insurance

back in october of 2013 at the website that kept crashing. when there is a big governmental failure, the president cannot talk his way out of it. that is why they need to pay more attention to implementation and less time talking. host: we are talking with elaine kamarck. why presidents fail, that is our topic. the lines are open if you want to talk about these failures. her recommendations to avoid those failures, we'll get into those. let's talk about our resident elect going to a transition -- our president-elect going through a transition process. how modern presidents have tended to deal with transitions. you rank -- every transition is

soaked in hubris. they think they can impose their priorities on the world and the world rarely cooperates. bubblingf that problem up during the transition? guest: the first way is they bubble up with appointments. the appointments -- almost every transition makes it a point that either they have to pull back over doesn't make it through the conservation process and they have to replace that person. it is a lot of appointment problems. that, we are going to see. rex tillerson looks like he is going to be appointed secretary of state. he has got some confirmation problems in congress. let's see if he makes it through. donald trump is appointing people he knows, people he knows are extremely rich.

it doesn't look there is an elaborate vetting process going on. usuallying process delves into people's backgrounds, their finances and taxes to make sure they paid all the taxes they were supposed to pay, to make sure their business dealings are on the up and up. who knows what is going to come out? that is a frequent, with presidential transitions -- that is a frequent problem with presidential transitions. host: what is your advice to avoid those early failures? guest: it gets worse when a president comes out of nowhere like trump, because he doesn't have the depth in his party of relationships, so he doesn't know that people generally no about policy as if they served in the senate. most president

elects, needs a vetting team that is on the ball. we don't see too much evidence of that. how much they are vetting will come out, because when these people going front of the senate, believe me, the senate will put them through their paces. host: elaine kamarck is our guest. she is also the governance studies senior fellow at the brookings institution and founding director of the center for fective public management with us for 45 minutes. phone lines are open. we will start with glenn and illinois. good morning. caller: good morning. i am wondering about how many democrats -- presidents have lied like this one we got going now?

is a thingw if it that you do when you are running ? host: a question going back to your concern about communication. guest: there is a tendency for presidents to exaggerate things, look for a great line in a speech, etc. outright lying is fairly unusual , unusual for the vulcans and democrats -- four republicans and democrats. president trump seems to have a problem with this. what is being said around odd.ngton is this kind of trump supporters are saying, well, only his opponents taken literally. everybody else takes him kind of figuratively and metaphorically.

that is kind of odd, because when you are president, your words matter. your words matter in foreign affairs and in international relations where they get translated, where other countries in recent -- other countries act in response to what they think the president is doing. it is a little nervous making. host: in your book, some of the blame comes from the nomination process that we have today for our president. guest: you bet. we used to nominate presidents the way the rest of the world nominates their leaders, enclosed party convention. that seems very undemocratic except that what was going on here was the party leaders and followers were controlling who had their brand, so to speak.

when we opened up -- and only the united states have done this -- the system to primaries, parties lost control over who the nominee was. it became this free-for-all. it was not until this election that someone got nominated who had no deep roots in the republican party. in fact, what used to happen in the old system for all of this downsides, was that you had an element of what the political scientists call "peer review. other people who knew this person and new things about them was -- them -- was here she capable echo did he or she have money problems? they knew things that the voters are likely not to know. that peer-reviewed gave us some

ok presidents. we don't have it anymore. host: this is an argument to give more power back to the party elite. guest: yep. there was talk, everybody was complaining about the democratic superdelegates. on the republican side, they were wishing they had more superdelegates. this something both political parties are going to have to grapple with because this system can yield people who a lot of people wonder if they are qualified. democrat, good morning. caller: good morning. can you hear me ok? i have a couple of things to say. that lady talked about the bank that lent russia money, the bank doesn't lend iran money for the

boeings. she was way off on that. to the point that we are talking media,s -- i blame the and i know everybody says that. this guy did not get cleared. his sons were bragging -- i am talking about child -- bragging that the russians were pouring money into the trump enterprise. that is big news, especially what he is doing. it is clear to me, how did he get in there without showing his taxes and knowing what is companies are doing? russians ownnd trump. it is no big secret. everybody is eating at the straw because they want their big tax cut. guest: i think that you are right that the media could be

more, you know, sincere in its investigation. the fact of the matter is the media has a hard time doing this, that what used to happen was people, the party process of nomination was controlled by people who knew the players. it was one of the reasons it disintegrated -- it it was hard to get new players and their. the virtue of it which you see with our neighbors in canada and great britain is the people who come in to lead the parties and the government tend to be well that it. they are well vetted by the press and people who know who they are, what their business dealings are. this season went surprise and consternation to the republican party and they were worried about this guy.

host: the capability of the media to vet candidates getting better or worse? guest: i think it is getting worse. the reason is the media is under a lot of pressure to get eyeballs and viewers, so if you aww, donald trump is tweeting about miss america or miss universe pageant and everyone runs over there, it is easy to distract the media. trump is good at distracting the media, particularly when they start doing complicated and sort of boring things like what his business dealings are in the world host:. south carolina, jesse a republican, good morning. caller: good morning. host: go ahead. .aller: i am a veteran i have had some major issues

in columbia. i was doing fine but because of incompetence, just not doing the right thing, i lost money. i think that is another reason why presidents fail. they don't pick the right people to look over these things. 8.5 months for an exam, an acceptable i waited for months in 2011. since this has taken place, i have lost money. i will not get into who is involved but i had the director hank up on me at the columbia v.a. that is wrong because they make mistakes and they don't want to fix them. , case been to the ip management, they did not do nothing. i have had senators, congressmen not doing anything for me. i even went as far as the one over here, this v.a. system in the cannot get the results there. host: the v.a. system being

touched on. guest: i talk about the ba system in the book and -- v.a. system in the book in one of president obama's failures. it was no secret the administration had serious problems doing what it was supposed to do. nor was it a secret that they were cooking the books, so to speak, to make it look like they were treating people like our caller in a timely manner, when they were not. it is one of the things that talk about in the book, which is presidents getting so far removed from the government that they run so that when the v.a. scandal broke into the news because of a veteran who actually died for lack of care, the obama white house acted like it was a surprise. they were surprised you the whole thing. that should never have happened.

the president should not be surprised. the president should be able to anticipate what is going on in their government and fix it. host: one paragraph from a book that sticks out -- most of the people the president sees every day will be the same people he solid when he was campaigning. the people the president doesn't really know are the 4 million or so people who work with him in the executive branch and the military. a new president is where intellectually that they are there, but few go out to walk the halls of the federal office buildings and washington, d.c. who was the last president you think did that? was good at being hands-on and knowing what was happening in the hallways? guest: not many. [laughter] this isit is particularly modern problem .ecause our government is now -- government is now run by

800 [indiscernible] at any given point in time in an organization that they, something is going very right and something is going very wrong. presidential failure tends to happen in two directions. first, as in the example of the failed to ronnie and rescue mission with president jimmy carter, when something is going wrong, it is because the president doesn't see and what isnd the level of happening in the government. they fail to see what the government knows and learn what they should be learning from the government. we saw that time in and time again in the bush administration, particularly with their intervention in iraq. ways, either they do not see the problem that blow

up in the face or they don't take the good and the smart stuff that is in the government and use it in their policymaking. host: the book again is "why presidents fail: and how they thatucceed again," a book "one washington post -- that one ryder said hest" wishes president-elect trump would read. michael is in alabama, democrat. go ahead. caller: good morning. it has been months since i was able to talk on c-span. in-depthe been several surveys. these are the two main concerns are have of any president and you hit it. this wonderful journalist or historian hinted at one of orse, the cabinet members

partisan or even more partisan of that president. i see most residents choosing yes men or women, yet, they seem -- when they claim to get things done, it is usually by, one hand watches the other, you do what you have got to do. , evend fight rahm emanuel though he is a fellow christian, the secretary of the interior under reagan, the first one, and ed manes is connect sample and i'm too young to remember the corruption of vice president iiro agnew under nixon but heard his name so much on the evening news when i was in kindergarten and elementary paull, and countless wolfowitz, and the last george w. bush administration and education secretary who gave us,

what i call, although she meant well, no standardized test leave which did not flexibility for the state. one more problem that i see that it wish you would address, each theident appears to have secretary, the treasury, or the choice for attorney general order the irs to inspect the .ooks usually, lobbying groups and think tanks that are the opposite from the way the party empowers the white house things at that time, and i thought i choices, butty that wonderful barter income who had so many of those problems getting the v.a. to do anything for him, my heart goes out to him. host: i will let you pick up on that. said old a loter

of interesting things, and one of the things about our cabinet secretaries if they do not have in the way to look at it is the cabinet andetaries have to manage let's take the environmental protection agency head, yes, i think the person would like to do a donald trump and run around the agency and say, it "you are fired, you are fired coming are fired," but the epa does not exist because someone made it up. it exists because congress passed laws creating it and telling it what to do. you cannot just get rid of it because you are cozy with this

person or president's "yes" men. you have to convince congress to stop and repeal the clean air and as a republican congress, they may do that but that is more difficult. remember, we are an organization of laws, and while president trump may want to walk into some of these office buildings and tell everyone they are fired, they will say, great to see you, mr. president, can we have a selfie with you wish to mark that i am -- with you? but i am protected by civil service and you cannot come in fired. host: good to be a topic for another segment. guest: [laughter] that is right. host: speaking of cabinet picks, that expected pick of rex tiller's and made official by donald trump in a tweet, saying he has choosing one of the

greatest business leaders of the world, ceo of exxon mobil, to be his secretary of state and the basis nomination fight and the confirmation fight on capitol hill. ryan is in new york, new york, republican. caller: good morning, c-span. i wanted to get into the news media. it is so important when we are misinformed on a daily basis. to cnn, they are the most mendacious, deceptive news media that is out there. they lie all the time. our give you an example. when donald trump went to meet with the president of mexico, they met and when donald trump came back, cnn started off in the morning and first thing they said was "donald trump lied about his trip, he said there was no discussion of building the wall." that was a stupid lie because people -- this is all coming

from the left. they call it a euphemism, liberalism, but they really are left-wing fascist, these people, if you look at what they have destroyed throughout the world. but here's where they went wrong . andld trump went to mexico the mexico president said he would not give money to build the wall and donald trump said, let's hold that into they -- into bay. i did not come to talk about that. the way the extrapolated is based on a left-wing biased. they had to say he lied. it goes on and on. instance, a couple of people said he was a racist. why? well, he called the mexican judge a mexican. that's the way we talk in new york. if i told you my best friend was raised in and

brooklyn, that would make me a racist under the pc thinking. identified oneer thing in the last election, which is people were sick and tired of political correctness. and this goes back to looking at donald trump. his opponents are really worried and appalled about him. they think he is a racist. they do not believe that he is going to be a good president because of what he said. his supporters think that he is to first politician ever speak to fully and honestly. that is something we will have to see as it works out. one of the points of my book is that all of this stuff, what you say, how you say it, etc., once you are president, reality matters. baloney on both sides that you heard during the the presidents come

into office thinking they can continue to play that game. they cannot. reality matters. if donald trump wants to get the chinese, go get the chinese. if he wants to put a terrace on stuff, go do it -- tarffis stuff, go do it. that is reality, and people know the reality of their own situation. the point of the book is there comes a point in presidencies when the reality of you on situation is much more important than what ever baloney or the press or the president of the united states is talking about, and that is what president have to worry about. host: north hollywood, california. james, democrat. good morning. caller: good morning. wow. what a great guest to have.

i would first like to thank c-span for the news they do pennell and like to thank madam kamarck for coming on. i will lay it out. host: 102, james. -- one or two questions, james. is unfortunate to me that so many americans do not see the american government has an organization to be valued [indiscernible] that thesehesis ands cap the policy communicating the policy and implementing the policy, my question is where do you think president-elect donald trump is going to fall into this framework? and how we anticipate it will impact his foreign-policy? i hope to have you back again. you have so much to offer. guest: thank you. the thing we have to worry about for donald trump is on both

sides of that, both the policy and the implementation of the policy. is the first presidential candidate in a long time who does not have a lot of reefing papers on their website, did not sheetst the typical fact that go along with presidential speeches of candidates during the campaign. we do not know exactly how he .ntends to do these things we know he wants to get tough on immigration. people elected him and were drawn to him to get tough on immigration. we do not know if he can actually create a registry for muslims. you need appropriations, etc. we do not know what that level turn out to be. and of electronic sensors in some places a while on the border, what more does donald trump do and does that really

?ork once you build a wall, people can go over and under it, so does that really solve the problem? of course, the business of mexico paying for it is idiotic and basically he does not say that anymore because i think he knows it was a great campaign line. a lot of the things that president-elect trump has said cap real problems being implemented. the question is going to be going back to this literal or figurative. what to his supporters conclude in a year or in two years? , do theye is no wall lose faith or do they say, no, we wanted him just to be tougher? are under theons amount that has been doing the obama administration, what do they say? that is what we are interested

in seeing and that is one of the things going on in washington now. people are saying, do not taken literally. host: sherry, republican. caller: good morning. caller:good morning. i would like to -- i am not really up on all of this politics, but i have been trying to read about it. i am 74 years old. this is the worst i have ever seen election go. i never knew there was so much corruption in the government until this past year. killingg, stealing, the . what is wrong with our government and how can we ask some of this? some of the things she says donald trump lied about, hillary or worse, so please, help me out on this. host: go ahead. guest: god is a matter of perception. we do have a fairly active judiciary -- that is a matter of

perception. we do have a fairly active judiciary that finds out corruption in government. caughtere two that got for corruption this year and they are on their way to jail. host: news this morning. a 10 year sentence. for corruption, there is the headline from "the washington post." guest: we do tend to find corruption. ,hose are two people out of 538 however. the federal bureaucrats in washington have lots of regulations designed to prevent corruption. in campaigns, we do have a lot haveing and i think we do them on both sides, and i'm sympathetic with that. i think you need to separate out what happens in campaigns. this was a particularly dirty from whatampaign happens in the government. i