the mccain came down to florida, and florida was even. florida was even that whole night, that big, beautiful state. and it is even. the panhandle. anybody live in the pres.-elect donald trump: i love the panhandle. devastated, they were the media, the anchors. they have insight or months and months that trump is going to get absolutely killed. i remember three weeks before one of them asked how trump will lead to rest of his life. because this is one of the most devastating defeat that he will suffer. -- which isreer

true, which is good. your production, how good are they? all of your football teams. they do well. this guy was saying it with such joy. he was talking about us 3.5 weeks for the primary. his whole life has been based on winning. he is going to suffer one of the greatest defeats and the history of politics. that is what they were saying. we were going to lose the presidency. i was going to take down with me the house and i was going to take down the senate. it was going to go down as the single greatest defeat in the history of politics. and three weeks later, we had the single greatest victory in the history of politics. [applause] pres.-elect donald trump: , usa is right.

we're going to put that sign up, weight in the usa. on our products that will make a lot of. he was very happy and that i went back to work. i went down to work. i didn't do interviews. all i did was the rallies. i did want to do interviews because they would cut it in half, it would make a beautiful statement and then all of a sudden, you'd say that you didn't say. in the back part of the sentence off, they'll talk about the other part of the paragraph that isn't so good. i said i don't want to do these people. to quote me, want quote me from his speeches. now i get my squads. even there, they will take a funny line and i will give you an example of what happened. one of the papers wrote a story, i was talking a lot of fun over the last couple of days, i said that higher to the election, you

people were strong and vicious and violent and you wanted to win. i'm saying it kiddingly. you wanted to win but you are vicious as vicious as i had ever seen. we were all laughing and having fun. after the election, i was in hershey, pennsylvania. i said, and now, your mellow, your low-key, you are sitting back, you want, you want. now you're chilling out. now you'reu won, chilling out. these people are so bad. we can't have a little humor. if we have humor, they're going to take it. when you write it, reported or

read it out, it sounds that way. when you see it, it as a second that way. -- it sounds exactly that way. we can't change. people get it obviously because i think i just heard a statement counties.n about 2700 where is kelly eckerman mark where's the great kelly and -- where is kellyanne? where is kellyanne? we need to get her appear. she is always on the phone talking to the reporters. trying to get the reporters to straighten out their dishonest stories. hope and kelly and.

in the history of politics of this country. she is the first campaign manager to ever win as a female. she did a fantastic job. kellyanne conway tell her about the counties. kellyanne conway: high again. so, your president elect donald trump one over 2600 counties. that is huge. of the 50 states, 306 electoral votes. had any of those graphics on tv vote,oad to the popular we have been in california and illinois and new york and we would have won the popular vote. but every graphic said road to

270. so we figured we would get 306 to have a little cushion. there is one other thing that doesn't get a ton of covers. -- coverage. donald trump, your next president turned 270 -- 200 counties from president obama to president trump. [applause] she islect donald trump: a tremendously talented person. she started with us from day one. she is to be in our real estate company. i said what do you know about politics? she said absolutely nothing. i say congratulations, you're in the world of politics.

she was there the first day and she was fantastic. she is a little shy but that is ok. but she is really talented. -- say ath the words few words. merry christmas everyone, and thank you donald trump. we hadlect donald trump: a great team. so, the other side when we won so quickly and -- bigly in ohio. we had those horrible exit polls. they did that to depress the vote. because it is places like

california and other places that they can see there is a three-hour gap. they say i love trouble but i'm not going to waste my time. these exit polls came out and my daughter and her husband called up and they said dad, it is looking really bad. i said what is looking back? it can't. i left michigan and start speaking almost at 1:00 in the morning on election day. we had 31,000 people. inside and out. i said what is looking bad and she said those exit polls are horrible. and is not looking good. i went to my wife and said do you know what? go badly about this because i worked as hard as you can work. forget, that last month, i did two and three speeches a day like this. maybe i'm wrong about it. did work hard and you lost. but i did, i worked as much as

you can possibly, physically do. and think anybody, they have written this, i would think anybody has ever work harder in the last month of a presidential campaign than i did. nobody. covered 17 states and i went to maine, i needed one. they said you cannot get to 270. 270 said there is no past -- two 270. win 270.will i got a two by the way. i got there, i got that one vote. i went to maine and that is the beauty of this electoral system. the popular vote,

i go with new york state, california, act and forth, back and forth. it would be much easier. the problem is that every other place you should stop in florida and texas, you wouldn't see any place else. it would be so much easier, i think i would do better. but you would never see most of the country. the electoral vote. i never appreciated it until now. how genius it was. what they had in mind. they did want everybody go to boston and new york. everything else would be forgotten. it is genius, i am telling you. i went to 17 states. that you states wouldn't go to. they were great. places that normally, you wouldn't be thinking about too much. they were incredible and they came through for me. most of them really came through. so then, you had the hillary people, saying that --

[booing] >> lock her up. lock her up. pres.-elect donald trump: you had the hillary people on. they said that we would win the state of thought. cap information, we are going to win. maybe that information was how many people voted illegally. they would say that is a terrible thing that he said. isn't that terrible? you have to look into that. the problem is when you win florida by that much, there is nothing much they can do. you can't have people and numbers that is bigger than the number of people.

up breaking news, ladies and gentlemen, donald trump has won the state of florida. they had one guy, i guess he was mid-level, he was saying that we will win the state of florida. we will win north carolina and florida but florida is looking strong. dns's head is is me one minute, we have something breaking, breaking news, trump has won the state of florida. the guy's been in there and say what happened? then they said that i can't win north carolina. they spent so much more money than me. i spent peanuts compared to what they spent. under budget and ahead of schedule. does that sound good? [applause]

underelect donald trump: budget and ahead of schedule. like we will have our roads built and our planes built. under budget. the old days, you had some people here that would tell you, when you spend less money and when, that is much better than the other way. i had cases where i was tied or of the nicole. likead spent in a state $50 million and i had spent about $2 million. and they sent him trump is not spending the money. i said that is a good thing. they don't understand. that is a good thing. if i can do that, if i can do that, it is a good thing. remember in the primary in new hampshire, i love new hampshire and in new hampshire, i spent almost nothing.

i can't say anymore, they are all kinds of my now. person has about $22 million. i spent nothing and one. they said that before i want, this person was doing great because he was spending much won money. i said yet but i will win the state. so remember for all the young people here, when you spend less money, and you went, that is a good thing, not a bad thing. so the next state was north carolina. which is great. they outspend me 5-1. i had my sons there and we had incredible people there. they came out and again, breaking news, donald trump has north carolina. every republican for 48 years has lost pennsylvania.

they always called it the bride that got away. i don't even know if that is politically correct when the press as it. it will bei say, politically correct but if they say it is fine. republicanery thought they want. i said we will win pennsylvania. we have three congressmen who will win. i did want to tell it to everybody because everyone thought they would win anyway. so we are looking and there is 1% i am leaving by a lot. 1%. if i lost by there was no way i could lose the state. they would not call the state. excepting victory. if i win pennsylvania, i went. the other side is said that they will win pennsylvania. when they look at the numbers, they understood. then we had a surprise. breaking news. donald trump has one the state

-- won the state of wisconsin. and people were saying, where did that come from? what happened? we thought we would do well there. but we wanted. now they are in trouble. they are really in trouble. i don't know if you saw that they have the most beautiful stage. i wanted to swap stages with through. -- midway they had that beautiful picture of the country, it was magnificent. they spent $7 million on fireworks. they knew something was wrong. is af the people who high-level guy said we made a big mistake. we made a big mistake. we are going to lose. he was telling that to people. i thought we were going to win. then all of a sudden, they canceled their artworks a week in because you know what, i found fireworks just don't work when humans.

lose. agree -- when you do you agree? did you ever see one of your football teams when they lose? no. it is called depression. but they canceled their fireworks and just to be cute, we sent an offer in and week to buy their offer fireworks for five cents on a -- the dollar. they had a great company that would have done it. we offer to buy at five cents on the dollar and we never heard back. then they took the convention center. if i lost, i want to get out. he would have been my case and i would have came up and said legs and gentlemen thank you very much, i really appreciate it. my supporters, i love you. but it was a movement that didn't work.

i would have set a want to thank my wife, my family, bye-bye, i'm out of here. did want to get this use some expensive thing. i had a ballroom in the city. all the sudden, we said we would win. we knew we would win because we won pennsylvania even though they wouldn't call it. i called it at 3:00 in the morning when it should have called it at 1130. if you look at the ratings, they were so high that they are making a fortune by not calling it. then we won before pennsylvania and the state of michigan. -- ybody said then they started to have the cameras. we had one guy but is really good on the next. you know who i'm talking about. that map was so red, it was so unbelievable. that used to show it and it was really depressing. everything -- everything was blue, blue, blue. they had the blue wall. it was unbreakable. or did we shatter that wall?

that wall was shattered. that wall will never be the same. now we won wisconsin, now we won michigan and i will never forget the guide was devastated. he never even thought of this. quivering. he puts it on the map and the map turns red. donald trump has one the state of bliss -- wisconsin -- won the state of wisconsin. please check this. won the stateas of michigan. it is very unfair to the state of pennsylvania. they never get the glory. it was the guy who could rush for one yard and they didn't get the glory. but we love our people in pennsylvania. -- ow he goes

there were saying there was no way to get to 270. the most they could get me to was to 69. 269. they get paid a lot of money and they don't know what they are talking about. i will tell you. got above 269. i was watching it for months. i got upset with texas. texas that they would win it. iswhat happened was, that like if going there. i knew that one. now he goes there is no path for hillary clinton to become

.resident of the united states donald trump and his great movement was president of the united states. so it was pretty great. [applause] it's was castor said it was as they called it in it was his tank. -- a sportscaster said it was as good as it gets. they called entertainment and i guess it was. we will get great trade deals, we will make you so happy and so proud.

and jeff sessions will make you so happy and so proud. wealthrs, the jobs and have been ripped out of our country. foreign powers have gotten rich bleeding america drive. not a lot of people know it better than the people of alabama and the people of the south in general. because you know what happened. that is all behind us. we're going to stand up for the american worker like nobody has ever stood up for that worker before. [applause] our economic agenda can be summed up in three very beautiful work. jobs, jobs, jobs. [applause] there is a woman out there that am very excited by those three words.

that is exciting, right? that is why we will lower our business tax rate from 35% to 15%. you will see things happen. we are one of the highest in the world by now. just about the highest. we will be among the lowest and you will see what will happen. it will be beautiful. that is why we are going to eliminate job killing regulations. lift the restrictions on the production of american energy. including shale, oil, natural clean, call.tiful, we will put our miners back to work. our miners are going back to work. we're also going to rebuild america possibly infrastructure. and boy does it needed. it needs it. $6 trillion in the middle east. we could have rebuild our .ountry three times over

it is time folks. with all of that, we will not be hell out of isis. we have to. [applause] pres.-elect donald trump: i am to support the construction of new roads, bridges, tunnels, railways, all across this nation. we will put our people back to work. [applause] pres.-elect donald trump: it is time to help get americans off of welfare and back into the labor market. regarding this country with american hands by american workers. my administration will follow two very simple rules. by american and higher american. --

buy american and hire american. the usa?member made in you know, these people will spend characters for paul. is it made in america? ?r made in the usa america first. who likes made in america? [applause] usa?ikes made in the [applause] [applause] usa, usa, usa.a,

pres.-elect donald trump: can we do one more poll? it is raining and miserable, we are also looking what -- soaking wet right now. it doesn't matter. time magazine disk in the person of the year. -- just gave me person of the year. always a great honor. the financial times which is a big deal, just gave me person of the year. remember, at the people here are women. and thank you women, i did so great with women. [applause] lls were so dishonest with women. i would go home and i said that my wife said that no woman in the united states will vote for you. we did great with the

african-american community. the great. -- we did great. [applause] pres.-elect donald trump: remember i said that the inner cities had nothing to lose? they agree. we did great with african-americans. we did great with hispanics. i said we will build a wall but they wanted also. they want their jobs protected. they want safety, they don't want drugs pouring into our country. we did great. we did great with women. that was embarrassing. those polls were so wrong. they were brought just about everything -- they were wrong on just about everything. i get person of the year from time magazine and the financial times. if it is a woman that gets it, we have to think about it. they want to do it because they

want to be politically correct. you run the magazine, you run the financial times and time magazine, do you go man of the year? or do you go person of the year? which is better? person of the year? or man of the year? [applause] it is pretty simple. if it is a woman, you go woman of the year. they are all saying yes. so we had a lot of fun, we have done more. at the center of our agenda is fixing our terrible trade deals. nearly is now running $800 million in annual trade

deficits. dealer ife great car you could negotiate a slightly better deal than this? we did all this work with trade and we are losing or we have a deficit of over almost $800 billion per year. it is a most like what are we doing? country thatst no we do well with. we have been deals in every country. that is going to change fast. is that right? our country is -- has lost one third of its manufacturing jobs since nafta. one third. when i first saw this and i can say because this is the last time that i will be speaking at a rally for a while. they are saying that as president, he should be does alleys. but i think we should.

we have done everything else the opposite. this is the way that you get an honest word out. you can't give it to them because they are so dishonest. they had a cloud today. who said i wanted to have another world trade center catastrophe because it is good for my face. think of it? what kind of a demented person would say that? think of it, thousands of people killed. they said i wanted to have another catastrophe like that because it is good for my face. anybody that says that, this guys demented, he is a demented person. that is why the times is failing. seem three weeks ago. i give it a shot. i had a great meeting, everybody said i did great, evident was great. but they will never change. they will never change no matter

what you do. they will never change. that is ok. we did well without the. what kind of a demented person would say that? is incredible. and theaw this statistics, i said it must be a typo. this is impossible. we have lost 70,000 factories since china has joined the world trade organization. said 700, he says 7000 maybe. but the number is 70,000 factories. many of them right from alabama. and you know it. it is the greatest job that in the history of the one. on theft it.to we are going to bring it back. we are not going to be taking advantage of it anymore by all of these foreign countries. we are going to have a very new

policy for a long time. it has been this way. it is called america first. it is now america first. if a company is to fire their workers, leave the great state of alabama or another state for another country and then shifted productw project -- right back into our country through a very strong border. there will be consequences. right now, they can do that. make the product, bring in for nothing. he so what we did with carrier air conditioner. go by carrier. we have thousands of people if you look at it from a family standpoint. they will have a great christmas in indiana. we have many of the things happening. many, many, many. if they want to do that, we are going to pose a 35% tax on those products coming into our country. they are not going to move. they will not move.

why didn't your politicians do this 15 years ago? because either they are not smart, or they always talk about free trade. i wanted fair trade. i love free trade. i want their trade. if they don't do then we don't do. it is now 35% tax for a company. other discoveries that think they will get rich by firing thousands and thousands of workers in our country? i hope they get rich. but do you know what? we are going to get rich as well. we will impose a very large tax on those companies. we are going to write up that legislation there is an. leave, -- their model no longer works. the politicians that taking care orby campaign contributions something else.

if it is something else, jeff sessions will caps on. he will. he will cast them. i wouldn't want to be done. them, ill catch wouldn't want to be them. to be a rich nation, and we will again, we hadon to be a safe nation. the murder rate has experienced its largest increase in our country in 45 years. the murder rate. more people are being murdered that in 45 years. he pressed murtaza that. did they ever write that? -- the press never tells you that, did they ever write that? no they didn't. we are going to ring this to a veryrime wave

rapid and. one of the greatest public safety threats remains open borders. there goes your business and your country. abraham lincoln, thomas washington,eorge they all believed in strong borders. we don't. mostght for countries that of you have never even heard of before. therefore it is. and yet, we don't protect our own borders. but i have a message for the drug dealers and the game members and the criminal cartels that are terrorizing all of our citizens in cities, at different places throughout the united states. the message is that your days are numbered. we are getting you out. we will build a great wall and we will stop illegal immigration for good. we will have doors in that wall. and people will come into that

wall and they will come through that wall by the tens of thousands. but they are coming in legally. they are coming in legally. will stop the drugs from pouring into our country. what the drugs are doing to our youth, we have a big problem here but every problem has a's -- every state has a big problem. you see it with our youth. it is astronomical numbers like never before. we will work to keep our country safe from terrorism. we have seen islamic terror attacks from paris, to belgium, to orlando, to san bernardino to the world trade center. think of that. one attack after another after another. this as clearly as it can be stated.

radicalng to keep islamic terrorists out of our country. [applause] pres.-elect donald trump: we have no choice. that includes suspending immigration from regions where it cannot be safely process. extreme vetting. is that ok? extreme. and security of the american people. it will always come first in the trump administration. ethics reform will be a crucial part of the plan is love. i believe we will drain the swamp of corruption in washington. and stop government officials from trading favors at your expense.

we face many challenges. the world is a mess. our country is in trble. we face many challenges. yesterday,ama said there is no hope. but i assume she was talking about the past and not the future. i'm telling you that we have tremendous hope. we have tremendous promise and tremendous potential. to be so successful as a country again. we are going to be amazing. i think she made that statement not many of the way it came out. i met with president obama and michelle obama, my wife was there. she could not have been nicer. i honestly believe she meant that statement and a different

way that came out. i believe that there is tremendous hope. beyond hope, we have such potential. this country has such potential. you watch, it will be so special. things are going to happen. like you haven't seen happen in many many decades. this is truly an exciting time to be alive. the script is not yet written. we do not know what the page will read tomorrow. for the first time in a long time, but we do know is that the pages will be authored by each and every one of you. don't forget that they did not know you existed until election day. then they said where did all those people come from.

where did they come from? they came in by the millions and millions and millions. they set records in many areas. they set records here. we set a record here in alabama. they said where did those people come from? and now they will work really hard over the next four years. i think we're going to make it. i think you next four years will be a lot easier if you want to know the truth. we are going to do a great job. you, the american people will now again, be in charge. your voice, your desires, your hopes. they will never fall on deaf ears. the forgotten man and women of this country and they were forgotten by the way. you are not forgotten any longer. you will never be forgotten again.

incomer, we will raise and bring back our jobs. we will repeat -- repeal the disaster known as obamacare and create new health care reforms that work for you and for your family. we will reestablish the rule of law. defend the second amendment, very important. they protected religious liberty. they will appoint justices to the united states supreme court. they will uphold and defend the constitution of the united states. we will heal our divisions and dividedour very country. when americans are unified, there is nothing we cannot do. no test is too great. goaleam too large, no

beyond our reach. nothing. there is nothing like us, there is nothing and nobody like us. our message today is or all were all parties, all the leaves, all races, all walks of life. whether you are african-american, hispanic american, asian american, we are all american. sharedall united by one destiny. i'm asking everybody to join us incredible movement. here is my request. ever give up. we can't give up. i should have given up in this campaign five times. i should have given up according to them, 10 times. i could take you over 10 different things that happened.

where people would have given up. but i never give up. i should have given up but i never gave up. never, ever give up. never stop believing. never ever stop dreaming. altogether,at, then we will make america strong again. we will make america wealthy again. we will make america safe again. america greatke again. thank you, thank you alabama, god bless you merry christmas. merry christmas everybody, god bless you. ♪ "you can't always get what you

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the presidential inauguration of donald trump is friday, january 20. c-span will have the coverage of all the events. listen live on the free c-span radio app. now a discussion on high school graduation rates from today's washington journal. >> joining us now from denver is former colorado lieutenant governor joe garcia. he is now with the western interstate commission for higher education where he is president. he is here to discuss a new study called knocking at the college store, projections of high school graduates.

it shows a desk -- decade-long stagnation. graduates, nowl the number of students receiving diplomas is expected to drop significantly area lieutenant, thank you for joining us this morning. joe garcia: it is my pleasure to be here. i could for the opportunity. -- thank you for the opportunity. kimberly: let's talk about what the goals are. job: it is an interstate compact formed back in at 1052. -- 1952. you can imagine that states like wyoming, montana, there might be fewer institutions. particularly, those that offer professional degrees. there is a need for doctors and dentists in all of those days. whatlls a little bit about

-- why the study was undertaken. what was trying to be measured here? >> i want to be really clear about one thing. people think we're talking about graduation rates. we're not talking about the rates, they have been going up. we are talking about graduation numbers. they have no peak. up for 15been going years. now we had a peek and we are going to see a decline over the next 15 years. that is what we're seeing people out to be concerned about. we have been doing these studies for four years for the last 40 years. we have been doing them sponsored by the college board and acp because they are concerned about the number of high school students and graduates. we think the nation ought to be concerned as we think about our future workforce. >> the highlight from the wall reporting on this said that the truck decline and birth great recession will result in a fall off in the number of students graduating

from u.s. high schools starting around 20 -- 24. that could be additional to's -- tor colleges build their classes. can you talk about what the impact of this drop-off in the number of students graduating high school will be? significantng to be on those institutions of higher education institutions. are struggling with enrollment. it is not going to impact the elite institutions that already turn away far more students than they can handle. for the kind of institutions like the one isolate, regional conference of universities or smarr -- small -- small private colleges, they will face a real talent in filling the seat and generating tuition revenue. for employers, a time in the nation needs more and more college etiquette -- college educated workers, there will be

few available because we are not graduating enough from high school. but me be clear about one thing, when i say college educated, i don't mean a four year, traditional degree. we need people with post education. >> we are to joe garcia, the former governor of colorado, we're talking about a new report detailing the drop-off in the number of high school graduates that is predicted to happen through 2032. we have special lens for this conversation today. 8000,ts can call 202-748, parents can call 202, seven 4000. all others can call 202-748-8003. let's look at some of the

members of the study and what it shows according to the 2030 one. the number of white public is predicted to from 2013 to 2032. the number of high school graduates is projected to be one point 6 million which is about 252,000 you are then in 2003. some of the underfinanced say that the other hispanic graduates are projected to increase by 50% or more. there were 920,000 graduates around 2025. there were more pacific islander public high school graduates that were expected by the early 20 30's. by contrast, black students

which recently reached a height are excited to12 decline by the early 20 30's. and declined by about 6%. talking little bit about these different demographics and how the numbers are changing and what the impact of that will be. : the different demographics are saving us right now. we would see a significant decline in the number of high school graduates. the hispanic regulation and asian population have been growing so fast. once you get through 2025, even those rates or those numbers will fall off. right now, for every white student that leaves. we have a hispanic or an asian student to fill in. that is no longer the case after 20 25 because the rates have started to decline in 2007. just like all other demographic groups. we will see in all over the

decline. that is something that we need to focus on. the groups that will be graduating other groups that traditionally have not enrolled in college at the same rate as the white population. we need to increase the number of graduates, all graduates who complete high school college ready and graduate. fromd he is calling in oregon. andy, you're on with joe garcia. andy: thank you for taking my enjoyed enjoyed c-span. mr. garcia, over the course of my tenure, one of the things i noticed was more and more of a push to get everybody college ready and less emphasis on making sure that everybody was engaged. that clearly worried me over time because what i saw with students who were physically saying this is not for me, the four-year school track, not enough information available to them to encourage them to stay

engaged and find their ambitions. i am wondering how you might be working on that? joe: first, i want to emphasize that we are not talking about getting more students enrolled in four-year colleges, that is not the only objective. we need people with associate degrees and technical and trade certificate at least as much as we need people with bachelor's degrees and graduate degrees. we areh the problem is, not getting enough students to persist after leaving high school and pursue any credential. we really need to make sure that the students do feel engaged and find things that interest them in the career and technical programs because that is where we will have the biggest shortages. in health care, investment effects are and, in places where you don't necessarily need a bachelors degree. trends, talk about the

-- >> let's talk about the trends. the south is the only region that is protected -- projected to experience an increase in the number of high school graduates for every year of the projection . although that number is expected to contract after 2025 in the early 2000 about one third of the nation's high school graduates work located in the south and the region chair of the national total group. during the two years of high-growth, they expected to and in 2025, it is projected that southern states will generate almost 47% of the nation's high school graduates or 1.3 million graduates. it will go from accounting to a third of all high school graduates to nearly half. thisare the reasons of boom in the south? why are we seeing this decline in the north and the west? >> good question, we are seeing

significant growth in the south. significant by increases in the hispanic population. keep in mind, texas is considered part of the south. when you look at texas, you have the highest growth rate of any state. that is what will drive the growth in the south. we are going to see in the south, just like every house, a leveling of of the african-american population and a decline in the white population. we are going to seek significant growth in population there more so than anywhere else. in the northeast, we will see a decline. we don't havthat sigficant hispanic population growth as we do in the south and in the west. >> you are talking about the places where you see growth. seeing aly are we decline in the number of high school graduates?

is there fewer people in that age group? are there more dropouts? what exactly is driving this projected decrease? >> it is simply a matter of migration from other countries. we have seen a decline in the birth rate from 2007. that is going to impact a number of high school students. in the 20'se there and graduating in 23 or 24. that is where we will see the significant decline. high school graduation rates are going up. they hadn't been steadily climbing, the numbers would be far worse. that to another point which is among our growing population, how hispanic population, they tend to trap the white populations in terms of graduation rates. it we really want to increase the numbers, we have to focus on increasing graduation rates for all of our subpopulations, for all of our authority grips. next we are talking with joe

garcia, resident of western interstate commission for higher education. it is about a new report that is predicting a dramatic increase -- decrease of the number of high school graduates. we have specialized for the students. 202,nt to hear from you at -8001.parents, 202 -- we have larry calling in from evergreen, colorado. thank you for calling. larry: thank you for having me, thanks for c-span. i've been a registered republican for 40 years. i grew up in a christian, conservative family. my mother seemed to have a very anti-public education attitude. i think that i see that more and more as the years have gone by, especially to my republican party. i decide this administration's

pic of education. , especially in the form of civics, civic education. i just do not thank you, larry. really good point. what we have seen is a decline in the number of students attending the rokita or -- parochial or other private schools, and that will continue to decline. it was about 10% of the entire student population here at will be about 7% in 2030. we have seen a tremendous increase in the last five years in the number of students attending public charter schools. that has increased by 50%.

these are public schools. we're seeing a dramatic increase in the number of students going there, because parents see that there are different options available through the public system. host: what might this mean for private schools? the wall street journal says number of30, and private school students will drop from 220,000 -- will drop 302,000 in 2011, at 26% decline. what does this mean for private schools overall? guest: what we have seen is that private schools, especially parochial schools, have been closing their doors for years. you think about traditional catholic schools in urban centers, and they have struggled. table began to flee to the suburbs 20 years ago and fewer

people attend those catholic schools. we have seen more students who might have otherwise attended the private schools find public charter school options that met their needs. we have seen a shift away from those private schools to the public charters, and we expect that to continue. although it is possible that changes to policy under a new administration might reverse that trend. too early to say. an educator is going from silver spring, maryland. caller: thank you for c-span. i am enjoying the conversation. i am also a parent of three children educated in the public school system, and i am a big advocate for public school education. i live in a part of the country where there is a diverse mix of students, and my children have the benefit of being educated in that kind of environment. one of the things that gems out at me from the numbers that have been shared here in the discussion is a continuing trend

students or mix of the diversity, and i am wondering, what is being done to to move one students from school and into a workforce where they will be interacting with people from many different , diverseand this great environment we are seeing so that we can expect them to function and thrive and succeed by being able to interact positively with people from other cultures -- how is that part of the work being done? it is certainly one of the advantages of attending a diverse public school. it prepares you to work in a diverse work environment. we know that our country has been growing steadily more diverse over the last several decades, and that is not going to change. so we want to make sure our

students are well-prepared. we need to be ensuring that our educators are diverse. we do not have a particularly diverse teaching force. we need to make sure more of our diverse students are graduating from high school, graduating college-ready, and thinking about pursuing teaching degrees. that is what we will really need in the future. host: an earlier caller mentioned the president-elect's choice to head the department of education. this report from politico -- the billionaire philanthropist tapped to lead the education department once compared her work and education reform to a biblical battleground where she wants to advance god's kingdom. of thea national leader school choice movement and has pursued that worked to promote the use of taxpayer dollars on private and religious schools. what are your views on the use of taxpayer dollars for private school? guest: well, i agree with the

court's, which have said public be used to cannot support private schools, particularly parochial schools. the public charter school has been a great option that has worked well in providing great opportunities, providing opportunities to innovate in education. that is what we need to see. happenot know what will with the new education secretary, but we know the happn with the new education secretary, but we know the law has not changed and the constitutional principles have not changed. host: can you tell us a little bit about how this study was done. how can you predict so far ahead what high school rates will be for students, some of whom have not been born yet? a good question. we do look at trends. that isis based on data

publicly available, primarily from the federal government. we look at the number of students enrolled in school and in each grade level right now. and we also look at birth rates, which are critical here. it varies depending on the demographic group and the region of the country. and then we use summing this on the little dark call the cohort survival ratio. we look at the number of students in a given grade and how that compares to the number of students in the previous year and then we grade, make projections based on all of those things together. we also look at the private school data, and that is important. that is where we have been able to anticipate continued declines in private school enrollment, which really outpace the declines overall in public schools. host: how do you expect the federal government, as well as states and local municipalities,

to use this data? this is what is really important. we have to recognize that the student population we are serving now and will be serving in the future is different than the student population we served 30 years ago. 30 years ago, it was more than 70% white. going forward, it will be barely above 50% white. we know that the students are coming in increasingly hispanic often need other supports to be successful. that is why we have seen a achievement gaps, kindergarten readiness gaps to it we have to address those gaps early on so we continue to maintain and even increase of the graduation rates from high school, and just as importantly, increase the college participation rate after that. when he to make sure more of these students who have traditionally been underrepresented in post secondary institutions now and role at the same rate or higher than whites in the past.

frankly, our workforce needs more people with postsecondary credentials. not necessarily four having your degrees but post secondary training. host: marianne is calling from austin, texas, a parent. caller: hi, i am calling in regards to the technical programs that you are talking about, getting students ready. i have a 10th grade student that invery lax in taking -- partaking in education. i fear that i am going to lose and the dropout, student diversity in the school now and the system of the school is full-blown multimedia. they live in this world, and i would love for my child to go ahead and get some sort of apprenticeship to get ready for a technical program. childot want to lose my

to a dropout rate. i really don't. but i just fear she is lacking in school so much -- that is my worst fear, to be honest. i am hoping i am not the only parent like that. guest: well, i sympathize with you. inave been a parent of kids high school, and i was one of those 10th graders that was disengaged. we have to make sure to provide opportunities for young people in school to become engaged in nontraditional ways. for me, it was shop classes and small engine repair, and that is what i looked forward to more than calculus. but a cap's me involved in a engaged to the point where i was able to graduate -- but it kept me involved and engaged to where i was able to graduate. those programs are expensive to run in high schools and are

often delegated to community colleges. we need more hands-on programs for students to keep them engaged. once they graduate and enroll in a secondary -- post secondary institution, there interests bloom. host: how did the graduation numbers compare to those in other countries? do you know if this is a worldwide phenomenon or something specific to the united states? host: our study did not include any other nation, but we do know in the more industrialized nations, they have seen similar issues here at their growth is coming from either an immigrant population or increasingly diverse population. but the white population is beginning to decline as a percentage of the total. most of the countries, at least western european countries, are facing similar challenges.

we want higher education institutions and faculty members to recognize that they have got to be prepared to teach the students who come to the door, not the students akin to their door 30 years ago or the students they wish they had. it is often first generation low-income students and students of color. from dexter, missouri, and educator. caller: good morning. for mr. garcia, i was a vocational teacher in an illinois high school, and seniors from five counties were bussed in. kids loved folk asian or. -- kids love vocational. i saw a higher level of kids

really knowing what they learned in school and having retention. my main question is for today. i think kids are bored. even the young kids in my neighborhood down here in missouri. we have a big head start program. by the time you get to 12th isde, all you know teachers, school, and school buses. is that having an effect on kids? thank you. guest: we know that when we create diverse opportunities for students, many of them do better. some do very well with a traditional academic program, but some need the opportunity to do some hands-on applied work. we need to not just look at the old school sort of vocational programs, woodshop or welding or auto mechanics, but look at new forms of vocational training and

high school, including health care and technology. most of the kids are bored because they can do the work easily and we need to provide more opportunities for them to take college-level classes while in high school. we have seen growth in dual enrollment, and those students often graduate with college credit and a farmer likely to continue on to college. we need to begin to blur that line between post secondary and secondary to give more kids in the secondary system the opportunity to get post secondary training. host: harold is a parent calling from maryland. you are on with joe garcia. caller: i wanted to say good morning, joe, and thank you for being a soldier in this fight to make us a less anti-intellectual country. i feel that with donald trump being elected, and it started with george bush, that this country is really -- i think the

reason we have such an issue with public education is that the republicans, as a whole, have really emphasized, you know , making intellectualism something that only people on the east coast and west coast deal with. besides that point, one of the things that i think would be a start this trend towards fighting against this anti-intellectualism is using one of bernie sanders' suggestions, making any type of public university, college, technical training school, community college, making it free. lettingstart by just any person that wants to get into the education field have free tuition. any person that wants to get into the education background, you know, a major that has anything to do with teaching, let that be the first free

tuition that you give out. long wayhat would go a into fighting against this being of intellectualism something for only east coast and west coast elites. host: let's get a response. guest: i agree with you that education is a value. when i had an undergraduate degree, a four-year degree, my first job was a charger i've are. i thought i was a better truckdriver and a more engaged citizen because i had that degree. it did not necessarily translate into the work i was doing, that it made me a better and more engaged citizen. we should do everything we can to promote the pursuit of education at all levels. we also need to think about what we're doing to engage students while still in high school so they are motivated to go on. that is, make sure they understand the college will be affordable to them. many folks look at college and think it is too expensive, so

why bother pursuing college, precollege curriculum in high school, and why bother even graduating? we know that if students see it as an attainable, they are more likely to pursue it. so the notion of free college is something that is gaining traction or was gaining traction around the country. whether that will continue, i don't know. if it does not, we need to be focused on providing financial aid so students can afford to go to school, especially since more graduates will be coming from low-income backgrounds. we're talking about projected high school graduation numbers with joe garcia, president of the western interstate commission on higher education, former lieutenant governor of colorado and a former white house appointee under president bill clinton at the department of housing and urban development. now we have a call from el paso, texas, a parent.

.aller: good morning, joe my question is simply that even if we prepared the students to graduate from high school, colleges are making money off of remedial courses, coming back and saying that these students are not prepared for college courses. i just don't get it. sometimes i feel colleges are doing that in order to make more having to know, by take the remedial courses before they can get into the main core. what do you think of that? guest: first, you have a great community college right there in el paso. you are right, far too many at the community college and test into remedial courses, manning their learning something they should have learned in high school. they are paying tuition but not earning college credit. nationally, that number

approached 40% of all students needing remediation after they graduated from high school and when they enroll in college. we need to change it at we have seen dramatic improvements of remediation reform, so we are able to move students more quickly through a remedial sequence. it is costing committed the college's money, because remedial courses charge the same tuition, but they are far cheaper to teach. they are generally taught by adjunct faculty, and their generally in english or math, two areas that do not require extra equipment. students through those programs more quickly. if we do a better job with dual enrollment in high school, we make sure that not only our students college-ready but they have some college credit when they graduate. that will be key to reducing remediation rates, which really are impacting the overall persistence and graduation rates from college, particularly for nonwhite students.

host: on the issue of school choice, something advocated by the department of education, the secretary-designee has an opinion piece in forbes magazine by an education analyst who says it is not enough. actions informed by taken in states like arizona and michigan, they should introduce results-based expectations in funding for federal programs by tying education opportunities to measures of student outcome-based productivity, and the nation will understand that the choice that leads to results is the greater good. what is your opinion of that? guest: it is absolutely true. we know that people often criticize public schools because of their graduation rate. they are not graduating enough students, and the students they are graduating sometimes are not

college-ready. when we look at private schools, particularly in michigan, and even some charter schools, their outputs are not any better. we know they are outstanding performers in the public charter school networks, and we know there are outstanding private schools. but those outstanding private schools often serve a very narrow range of students, predominantly white and upper middle class, and they would do well wherever they were enrolled. in michigan, we have seen an increase in the number of for-profit charter schools and private schools, and the results are, frankly, not very good. announcer: coming up sunday morning, news media alliance president and ceo david shaffer on what the media industry could

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competition is a good thing. it pushes us to do our best. and you know that a fight is fair only when everybody has a chance to win, when the playing field is level for everybody, and the rules are clear and consistent. that's important to our consumers, our workers, our employers, and our farmers. you deserve a fair shake, even though there might be much bigger players in the market. without a truly competitive marketplace, those big companies can raise costs, or slack off on offering good service, or keep their workers' wages too low. and in an era when large corporations often merge to form even larger ones, our leaders have an even greater responsibility to look out for us as consumers. to keep america's economy growing and america's businesses thriving, we need to protect the principle of fair competition. that's not, by the way, a democratic idea or a republican idea, it's an american idea, because it's the best way to make sure the best ideas rise to the top. my administration has done a lot

to keep the marketplace fair. we defended a free, open, and accessible internet that doesn't let service providers pick winners and losers. we cracked down on conflicts of interest by making sure professionals who give your retirement advice do so in your best interest, not in theirs. and in the last few months, we've made even more progress. this week, my department of agriculture took major steps to protect farmers from unfair treatment by bigger processors. these rules will help swine, beef cattle, and especially poultry growers who have fewer choices in where they sell their products. this month, the fda started taking steps to make hearing aids more affordable for more than the nearly 30 million americans suffering from the frustration of hearing loss. we think people with moderate hearing loss should be able to buy a hearing aid over the counter as easily as you can buy reading glasses at your local pharmacy. this year we also addressed two

other problems that keep workers and wages down, the overuse of non-compete agreements that hurt workers in the job market, and the unfair practices of companies that collude to set wages below the market rate. and we backed new steps, including a law i just signed to fight robot scalpers that artificially drive up ticket prices, and a rule that requires airlines to reimburse your baggage fees if your bags don't make it to your destination when you do. finally, it's this principle of competition that's at the very heart of our health reform. in fact, it's the reason we call it the affordable care act. it makes insurance companies compete for your business, which is helping millions afford the care that helps them get and stay healthy. by the way, it's open enrollment season right now. you can still sign up on healthcare.gov until january 31 and get covered for 2017. our free-market economy only works when there's competition, and competition only works when rules are in place to keep it fair and open and honest.

whether you're building the next big thing or just want to be treated right as a customer, that's good for you and good for the country. thanks, everybody, and have a great weekend. sen. toomey: hi. i am pat toomey, senator for pennsylvania. each congress, i make it a point to visit all of pennsylvania's 67 counties. this fall, i was able to visit every corner of the state and speak to so many people about their concerns and their hopes. over and over, pennsylvanians told me they want safe neighborhoods and schools. they want our country to be secure and strong. they want a growing economy that creates good jobs. well, pennsylvania is not alone. hard-working men and women from the rust belt to the sun belt to the plains, they voiced similar hopes for the future. this has been a difficult eight years. terror returned to our shores from boston to san bernardino. we've endured the worst economic recovery since world war ii and the weakest labor participation in 40 years. the middle class has shrunk.

and the cost of health care has skyrocketed under president obama. many americans don't believe their children will be better off than they were. and some younger people feel the american dream is slipping out of reach. well, my senate republican colleagues and i have worked to lessen some of these fears. we've enacted critical tax legislation to encourage more manufacturing and more research and development here in america. we passed legislation to repeal obamacare and sent it to the president's desk. senate republicans worked across the aisle and passed a law to help fight the opioid epidemic while stemming the diversion of painkillers to the black market. we implemented common-sense, conservative education reforms to strengthen charter schools and shift decision-making out of washington. after years of short-term extensions, republican efforts will help long-term fix america's crumbling highways and infrastructure. and we provided essential improvements to ports, waterways, and flood control

systems in nearly every state. we worked to help ensure that our veterans are always first in line for the best quality health care, and that includes suicide prevention and mental health treatment. providing for the national defense and supporting american troops are among the senate republicans' top priorities. we helped keep america safe by supplying more of the tools service members need to take on national security challenges and help strengthen our military posture. but we aren't stopping there. come january, the congress and the new administration will work to transition americans to a better health care system that gives families and individuals affordable choices in coverage, and takes washington bureaucrats out of the doctor's office. we'll work to reform our convoluted tax code to unburden taxpayers and free up dollars individuals and job creators can save, spend, and invest. and we'll eliminate regulations and red tape that have slowed

the economy and hampered manufacturers, the agriculture industry, and our municipalities. you will see the economy unleashed. we heard you this fall. we are going to keep working for you. as the year comes to a close, it is a good time to remember that there is more that unites us than divides us as americans. the blessings we enjoy are possible because of our forbearers who came here for religious freedom, our founders who imagined a nation conceived in liberty, and the military men and women who protected those ideals over the generations and stand guard for us today. all that we enjoy and are thankful for as americans is not a result of luck, but rather of the sacrifices of men and women of great character who founded, shaped, and defended our great country. we'll work to safeguard their legacy and our children's future. i am senator pat toomey. merry christmas and happy

holidays, america. announcer: c-span, where history unfolds daily. was created as a public service by america's cable television companies and is brought to you today by your cable or satellite provider. peter: michael o'rielly of the central communications commission on january 20, your life changes. how will your professional life change at that point? mr. o'rielly: first of all, thank you so much for having me. in administrations will bring a lot of change to our activities of a commission. i would like to say that very few people vote based on top indications policy, but the outcome does have dramatic impact on our activities, and it changes the majority of our makeup. that will alter our current