among others. he is interviewed by technology reporter david mccabe. >> figure out what the credentialing will look like for the jobs that are available, not everything will require four-year degree, i'm not as concerned about folks who are getting four-year degrees or phds, what are you doing after high school to get you credential that actually going to get you a job? and i think the federal government should be looking to credential actually relate to employ sxment having conversations with private sector and funding those type of aprentishship programs. >> watch communicators tonight 8 eastern on c-span 2. >> "washington journal" continues. host: it is open phones on the "washington journal." we end our program at 10:00 today talking about any public policy issue you want to discuss. phone number. republicans, 202-748-8001. democrats, 202-748-8000.

independents 202-748-8002. we'll get to the calls in this, our last segment of today's program. line for democrats. randy, what do you want to talk about? caller: good morning. i'd like to comment. free trade has put this country in one heck of a problem since they came up with this. you can't grover norquist and his plan to lower taxes continually in uneven basis, the way that is the money is pooling at the top of the stratus or the economy in 1%, it just doesn't work. our government was founded and paid for by itself by taxes at of the border since inception,

it goes back to boston tea party. we're selling ourselves out with free trade. has to be some type of equitable vet tax that will help even the playing field for workers in america that don't earn enough in wages to pay social security taxes and the rest of the taxes and take care of them in old age. host: does it surprise you new "wall street journal" poll shows climbing for free trade, the poll showed highest portion of americans who said free trade helped more than hurt since the journal nbc news pollster started asking the question in 1999. does that surprise you? caller: yes, not really. i don't really have faith in polling like i used to because there is so much big money and

corporate money behind the polling, the polling become a business unto itself just like fundraising. host: when did that start to turn randy? caller: well, i think it really started to turn back in the 2000s, early 2000s when they started -- it could go back to bill clinton, it could go back to nafta and deregulating things from '96 on, the gingrich era. really, my lack of trust in polling has probably i would say since early 2000s, really become evident that not really -- host: appreciate the call from iowa this morning. daniel in hastings michigan, line for democrats. daniel, good morning. caller: hi, thanks for taking my call. i want to make a comment on the tax cuts, proposed tax cuts. right now on corporate tax, 50%

of fortune 500 companies pay less than 15%, even though the tax is 35% when they take all deductions they pay 15 or less 50% of them. you have big, big companies, g.e. paying 0, my point, we tried this, we've been down this road before. the tax cuts would be great if they were for the working class, huge for them, small ones for the rich. 70% of our economy is consumption based. when you give people that have a lot of money they will not buy a thing. if you give this tax break a big tax break, i think prot posed tax cut over there is for myself, is like $600. okay. give this to the working class, they will go spend the money. the economy will be robust because we're the people that

can't afford the vacation, the extra meal out every week. i just think that we're going down the same rabbit hole that we've been before blow the debt up, democrats will have to come in and be under demanding to cut social programs because of that. i think we could get a lot of waste out of the money that we spend on military already. thanks for taking my call. gospel line for republicans betsy is wait nothing elkhart, kansas. caller: yes, we should take legalization of marijuana nationwide. host: why is that, betsy? caller: looks like colorado has had result, i saw a man that had said that the teenage rate had not increased, which is one thing they had worried about and they had less drug dealers

running around in the state. host: betsy, how confident are you that the trump administration would work toward that specifically the justice department under attorney general sessions? caller: well, from what i've heard, he's very anti-marijuana, however, if they change the law he would just follow the law. and we have been trying for years and years to get these laws changed and it's been too much of a political lie that the government has told us over the years about how dangerous marijuana is. it has beneficiary habit, not just getting high, and i really think this would help the general population. host: you say that we've been trying, here is article in the

huffington post from yesterday, i believe. states for marijuana war with jeff sessions. who is the "we" when we've been trying to get laws changed? caller: oh okay. well i'm a member of like normal the groups that try to get the laws changed, like marijuana policy project things like that, and different groups. you can find them all over the internet. host: thank you for the call. matt in baltimore maryland, matt, good morning. caller: hi. i have couple of things, first, thanks for c-span, giving us a voice. i think the republicans should take page out of the democratic playbook and change their name. instead of deporting, which has a sort of mean connotation we

should call it repatriation. it would just sending them back to their own country, i think that is a nice thing. host: rebranding would sell it with who? the american people or the world? caller: i think it would sell it to the world. i think everybody would suddenly have a different mindset on what this effort is. there is nothing mean about it. of course we should start with the criminals and lay off the people who have been here a long time just as reagan did unsuccessfully to cease it. no need to build a wall when you could put 500-foot electric low fence that can't be shorted because it could be detected. that would pretty much end

anybody trying to cross it. you couldn't do it if you hads and negatives different heights, a lot of details but that is one thought. a second thought i had, that might help is that we should insist that anybody at congressional rally be of that man's district. the running and professionals and semi-pro -- host: you talking about town halls specifically, ned? caller: yes, town hall, that is what i actually meant. sorry. host: no. caller: the thing is we have to return to a place, i'm a world war ii veteran and i've watched the evolution of this country

from hard patriotism in hollywood included to this very lonely one world policy, which is impossible to affect and it runs the entire gamut from carbon sequestration which is unusually ignorant, except to the people who are the brokers and make the money because it doesn't reduce the carbon, it just sells one guy's a lot toment somebody else. host: william up next in arkansas nhot springs national park. line for democrats. good morning. caller: yes, good morning. thank you for having me on your show. i actually have more of a question. your guy made a comment about border adjustment tax. he made a good point, said for people like me that don't understand completely what it

is we should look it up in full detail. i was curious, could you tell me how to look it up in full detail? every time i look it up on google, the only thing it addresses me to is like newspapers forbes, cnn, fox and all that stuff which we know are biassed. i was trying to figure out where to go to find the information through government pages? host: i'm sure the speaker's office has put out information on this. i'm -- i know kevin brady's office ways and means, has put out information. website of the two guests on recently is piie.com, adam posen of peterson institute, check out his work there. grover norquist, americans for tax reform, atr.org, get you started in those spots. alfred in california, open

phones, go ahead. caller: good morning. how are you? thank you for taking my call. i have two comments. one, a question regarding maxine waters when she came on msnbc calling donald trump and his cabinet scum bags, she's a congresswoman, who kind of language is that in regard to young people? i mean, she's a congresswoman calling them scum bags and another thing, the democrats continue to say that donald trump is racist and white supremacist, i did research and democrats are the ones that are for the ku klux klan, why doesn't that come out? why isn't there investigation in regard to ethics and what waters said, calling them scum bags? that is unacceptable.

host: alfred, you think the discourse in american politics is at the worst you have seen it? caller: yes, i have. i have never seen this in my life and i was appalled, it turned my stomach in regard to her using that word. why did that word and that incident strike you so much? a lot of people talk about incidents of discourse deteriorate nothing our political system. caller: well i see congressmen and women, they never use that kind of word. i mean, it's ludicrous that a congresswoman, supposed to be well educated, uses that terminology. she could have said something else. i'm 64 years old and i see

c-span all the time and i appreciate you taking my call, but it really really upseted me a person with that caliber would use that kind of word. host: cindy in new egypt new jersey, line for independents. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you, c-span, for letting the american people have a voice. two subjects i'd like to comment on. one first is that if my memory serves correct back when ross peron the was run withing bill clinton for the presidency, he warned bill clinton about signing nafta and we've seen the bad effects of nafta. since then i've been intrigued at prospect of having a businessman as a president and people of business versus politicians in the cabinet. and that is exactly what donald trump has done and i think before people go criticizing all these billionaires you know, if

you an employer you want to hire people most knowledgeable about the system you are dealing with and i feel like if these men and women he's putting in the cabinet can do for the country what they did for themselves, i think that is a good thing and we should give it a chance, number one. the second subject i'd like to comment on is how none of the democratic leaders and i've called them here in the state of new jersey and i've requested it over and over again, to get up and denounce the violence against trump supporters. there are men and women in the hospital with no arms and legs that fought for this country, the most important thing is the vote, the inauguration, sacred things in america. people have died, people have burnt to a crisp who live like permits for fighting for this country. for fellow americans to be pepper spraying people in the face and breaking private

property and union members, you know that is why there was no one at the inauguration hardly, union members couldn't go for fear of be og t.v. and couldn't go to inauguration for fear their boss would see them, everyone knew there would be violence there. host: when you contact member offices about this in north carolina what do they say to you? caller: well i couldn't get ahold of senator menendez, he had someone take my call. i pleaded with him or her taking the message to senator menendez to have somebody, major leading democrat denounce violence and discrimination for example, there has been contractors that went to people's houses in new jersey and had a trump stick sxer they were turned down from the job. the people said, you are for

trump, i'm not going to hire you. we are being discriminated against, there has been acts of violence to from the job. the people said, you are for trump, i'm not bruce springsteen's band, they said there were death threats against them. these are your fellow americans and suppressing the vote, making people have to hide who the candidate of their choice and another thing is, you know i don't think people realize because of the media polling before the election a lot of trump supporters never went and voted. people were registered to vote and didn't vote because they thought he had no chance and there are people not registered in new jersey, that i know they were thinking about registering to vote for trump, but they didn't because of polling. host: cindy in new jersey. speaking of president trump, cindy, president trump will give his joint address to congress tomorrow night. you can watch it live on c-span 9:00, also on c-span.org listen on the c-span radio app, we'll be looking for stories before

that. tomorrow morning previewing the president's address and talking on wednesday morning after the address here on the washington journal. linda, noerj, connecticut. good morning. caller: good morning. first of all, i'm taken aback by cindy from new jersey's fear of getting physically accosted for being a trump voter. i live in connecticut and i drove by a lot of trump signs and i didn't bother them and they didn't bother me. she kind of has to get facts to back that up. of course we have discourse in our country. we're supposed to. we are not supposed to agree we are supposed to compromise. this country was founded on discourse. we will get past the anger and

the election and we will heal. what we need to do is listen. not to people like cindy, who see artificial veterans getting burned to a crisp, but to the voices who go to work everyday, the people on the bushes, on the trains everybody needs to listen the president included. host: linda what makes you certain we will heal? caller: we don't have a choice. we look at grammar school we don't see democrats and republicans, third graders coming out, we see our future. when push comes to shove, this is a good nation of good people. and when we look and we finally sit things out and when events happen tragedies like september 11 people, movie stars give up millions and people like me give hundreds and we are good people

and always heal. host: thanks for the call. james calhoun, georgia republican, go ahead. caller: good morning c-span. host: morning, sir. caller: the russians are coming. yeah, i'm trying to -- with that. good movie, though. larkin -- host: what did you think of hollywood talking politics last night? caller: well, you know, it is going to happen. anticipate that. -- [indiscernible] i compare it to old-time hollywood. i mean, such a great actor, and even today -- good work.

even after he's gone away. but i want to -- tear somebody down and say something hate sxfl vicious about them, you know, like all these insist on doing now days, it goes with the territory, after what they pulled on mike pence. the now days, it goes with the territory, after what actor, stage actors, just got up and put their two cents worth in. it wasn't as bad as i was afraid it would be, he had to leave so it wasn't -- host: james on the line for republicans. speaking of republicans, a lot of conservatives in town just this past week for the conservative actor, stage political action conference, cpac, and washington times and cpa c conducted a -- i'm sorry cpa c, and mclocklin and associates conducting this

poll for the washington times asking questions about the trump administration one to those who showed up at cpac which campaign promise would they like to see president trump follow through on? taxing about tax reform in the last segment, tax reform was nothing one issue they would like to see trump follow through on. 33%. 28% saying ending obamacare most important campaign promise. 17% said border wall most important. most important campaign promise infrastructure, 8% said it was the most important. to see the wrap-up of polling from those who attended cpac, it is in today's washington times. just a few minutes left in the program today, get to your calls. tafd waiting denver, colorado, line for independents. david, open phones, what is on your mind? caller: yeah, i've seen -- that

lady mentioned normal, that is norml. national organization for reform of laws is right on target. host: right. caller: i wouldn't have a problem with them, you know, throwing in an extra 5% sales tax on it. host: how is legalization going there in colorado, david? caller: it's going really well. i mean, you know, people don't have to buy stuff that has been smuggled in and tainted with who knows what, the people who use it for medicinal reasons, you know, they don't have to, you know go through the hoops unless they want to for extra benefits and less tax and the quality, you know, the quality of the cannibis is greater.

host: having access, topic those who oppose legalization often bring up. caller: yeah. you know i'd like to mention there was a gentleman that had a lot of people think that cutting all the loopholes out of the tax form would benefit us you know. wealthy peep and he will corporations can afford lawyers and accountants and so that would be lots of jobs for them and not only that, but those are really sentence for corporations and the wealthy to a portion on upgrades and charity and a lot of beneficial things, i think if

anything we need more, you know, green technology and things like that to make it easier for corporations to reinvest in newer technologies. host: to dela in new york city. line for democrats, good morning, dela. caller: hello. i live in new york city, we once had a thriving textile and apparel industry, until the clintons came along and got maft naft. hillary sat on the board of directors for walmart, we lost -- manufacturing economy. i blame the clintons and hillary clinton should be held responsible for this, but she's not, not said a word about it. host: okay. jim in north carolina. line for independents, jim, good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for c-span.

i'm recently retired baby boomer and i've been paying income tax for 40 years and now whether they use vat or bat, they want to shift the tax over to things i need to buy. that seems unfair. and also, i don't think gutting epa regulations is going to do anything to help this country and the extraction industry is really need to ramp down and we need to go solar. what industry do you work in? caller: i was computer programmer. host: what do you do now? retired? caller: recently retired and that is my point, i've been paying income tax for 40 years and now they want to shift the

tax to things i need to buy now that my income has gone down. host: thanks for the call. thanks for watching c-span. steven in michigan. when donald trump gets on tv tomorrow, everybody that believes he is not a legitimate president, turn off your tv. host: still with us? hank is income -- republican. caller: thanks for c-span p or i appreciate your work. i wanted to say in response to the woman who called from connecticut, a lot of problems are going on right now individually with people committing violent acts in general in the world. it is largely due to what i would say is the idea of sour grapes. the other party finally having to come to the realization they

did actually lose the election. you do not see republicans going out and committing over the past 50 years happening that did not happen when republicans lost the election. host: give me an example. caller: what went on at berkeley. you have a bunch of hired thugs by george soros and organizations like that being paid to go in and commit absolute violence and wrecking buildings and trying to cause problems with people, in particular the young woman in charge that i have seen on a number of political shows who said flat out we are to take a stand and do this and that. but her stand is a stand for violence. i do not think that is the way to heal the nation. you look at our public schools, you don't see democrats and

republicans, i would like to say, maybe this is just my opinion, but a great quote -- a great book will describe to you exactly will what has been happening since the idea of god has been taken out of schools, you see the kids -- it has had a big effect. a social engineering project. i don't think the democratic side is being fair to the republican side in a way -- >> host: kathleen, independent in texas. caller: i want to talk about president trump. i believe he is going to be the best care he don't put up with nothing. he stands up, he is a strong man for this country. if he can do it, he is the only one who can bring us out of this. nobody is going to pull any wool

over his eyes, and he will take care of is this like he is supposed to. host: what should he tell members of congress when he stands in front of them tomorrow night? caller: he will turn this country around. it will take time and patience from the people of the united states to pull together and work together. host: joe is waiting in new york, live for independents. caller: good morning. i feel like -- that democratic woman, trump started this campaign, big hands, and also, it talks about the destruction of the xl pipeline, you know,

obama didn't approve it. obama didn't approve 30,000 people signed up to get arrested, to do civil disobedience. there were demonstrations in washington dc. 40,000 people. bring it on, you know, obama he takes obama had it bad with civil disobedience and demonstrations you know, it is going to get worse under trump. host: that is joe, our last caller today on washington journal. there will be a presidential address at 9:00 and we will show it live here on c-span. you can also see it at c-span.