>> the committee for economic development policy conference will resume in about 15 minutes with a discussion on infrastructure. news from capitol hill today. the house and senate out spirit were that utah representative jason chaffetz some of the chair of the house oversight committee, says he will not run for reelection or any other office in 2018. he is in his fifth term and said on facebook earlier that he has long advocated that public

service should be for a limited time and not a lifetime or a full career. he says he has no alterity or motives and is healthy and confident he would be reelected. the national republican congressional committee chairman said that republicans have a deep bench of talented candidates in utah who are more than up for this challenge. the nrcc is confident in our ability to keep this seat red in november appeared we will take you back to the discussion on infrastructure at the policy conference, the committee for a good, development. until then, part of the program from earlier today. >> nicely from the last one, i

thought i would start by asking each of you -- if we look back on the first 100 days of the trump presidency a couple years from now, what is the one thing you think has happened that we will consider noteworthy since the president took office? bill, do you want to start? >> really? is this on? >> yes, it is on. think whating to would be the one thing. i cannot come up with anything specifically. i have a word i think we describe the first 100 days -- so far, the first 90 days, because we still have 10 days to go and who knows what will happen. >> it is a family audience.

we are on tv. >> showing my military experience for many years ago and a time of crisis or did we used to have a word called vuca, which stood for volatility, uncertainty, complexity, and ambiguity. to me, that would describe the first 100 days. >> in the military, and was it really a v or was it an f? >> it was a v. ok, so i think that we will history with the potentially most important things are. i don't know, but i will throw out just a few possibilities. one is the president's famous remark to the governors that "who knew health care could be

so complicated," and we did a best quote bracket, and that was the one that won. i actually think it should have won because it really did reflect the complicated and slightly bumpy transition from campaigning to governing. historians could look back on that and say it was the beginning of the dawning of the realization that this is going to be harder than he promised and a transition to a more normal form of governing were they could look back at it in say this was a reflection that he was completely not ready to govern and it lasted throughout all of the next four years, eight years, whatever, of his presidency. the other thing, and i think this one is related and is also the significance of it that has yet to be fully developed, is what i have called, not in the

terms of the antitrust resistance uses it, but the normalization of trump. not that we're defining acceptable behavior down, but his behaving, as many presidents do, on campaign promises making governing realities, so we saw ofs remarkable spate abandoning or transforming campaign promises into different approaches to governing. that, too, as we look back on it in history could be an interesting moment of, ok, america first also includes bombing syria when we have chemical weapons and things like that. so i think we have potential seeds of what historians will

seize on in the first 100 days, but we do not know which ones will be most ripe. >> i think there were plenty of lost opportunities is what historians will say when they look back over the first 100 days. remember, we have many more days to come. if the most important thing day, didn the 101'st we not give him credit? i think it will talk more about the agenda moving forward. i think the nomination and confirmation of neil gorsuch is sort of a monumental moment, whatever side you are on. in many ways, it will be sort of everlasting compared to what may happen on tax reform or health care. it is one of the lasting moments and one i feel people have not necessarily given quite as much attention to.

>> sabrina stole my answer. >> i will let you go first on the next one. >> it is not easy to go first either. i think one of the reasons bill had to sift through what has happened, and it feels like years but it has only been 90 days, and that is because we have witnessed so much. decades after the president's twitter feed has fallen dormant and we don't even remember what parts of the anatomy celebrities may grab with imputed to the dust with impunity, neil gorsuch will still be deciding cases on the supreme court. and depending upon how things play out over the next few years, the withdrawal from the tpp, which i personally view as intemperate action and an unfortunate action, is something we might look back and say, hey, what was that moment where the liberal order in trade we have been building for decades, since world war ii,

began to either unwind or perhaps take a number of steps back, it will take a long time to recover. >> good recovery from gorsuch. i would not have thought of tpp. ifhink another one is that the attack on regulations continues, whether undone by executive order or through the creative use of the congressional review act, you can see that can have lasting effects and will be something he actually got done, as opposed to the long list of missed opportunities. i do have this image of the trip presidential library -- of the andp presidential library you walk into a giant screen with a continuing flow of trump tweets forever. i am not convinced that with the advance of artificial

intelligence that the trump tweets will die when he does. i think we will see about what he tweeted in 2075. >> there might be some we do not want to die because they are very funny to recall. >> and building the library -- >> it will cost $200,000. >> and wherever it is, it will have 18 hoes. -- 18 holes. [laughter] i wanted to start with you, but this is a bill's alley. looking at the teletext of all of this, the discussion about the divisions within the republican and democratic parties, between the white house and the republicans in congress, among the democrats, the polarization of the country -- i think there was this general sense that we could go on in this situation for some time.

this does not strike me as a sayainable equilibrium, to the least,ut i cannot figure out what is likely to change the dynamic at what do you think? >> i agree with you at i think this has to stop, and we have to move forward. i work for republicans all my life. i was a senate staffer, not a house staffer. so i focus on the senate. and to accomplish the things that really need to be accomplished, whether it is passing a continuing resolution a week from now or increasing the statutory debt amount later this fall, whether that is doing tax reform, and i think tax reform will have to be done on a regular order basis, that will required the u.s. senate 60 votes. we have not done away with the legislative filibuster. therefore, i think that will

force -- because republicans will not want to be in a position of shutting on government or defaulting the government, and that perspective , i think, is going to force work across the aisle in the united states senate. i think it will come. it will have to come, but there will have to be some reaching a from democrats. and republicans will have to -- i am not saying vast numbers, but to get progress going, it is going to require the united states senate, and 60 those will be the key. bill says we have to have progress, so it will happen. but we might not have progress here do you agree? you are saying it is a week away, right? >> i think we will have to have 60 votes next friday. certain issues, there are things that have to get done. optimistict quite so

-- or maybe i am optimistic, because as a libertarian, the less that gets done, i do not necessarily have a problem with that. but i think we have seen already static, for lack of a better word, and some of this seems to be attributable to the shifting of kind of who is on top in the white house. there has been this discussion of some more ideological staff tobers being marginalized one extent or another and the rise of what has been termed the new york democrats. it seems to be a little bit of a more temperate tone. >> you mean like gary cohn. >> and steve mnuchin, jared kushner, and -- >> ivanka trump. >> ivanka trump. but we were talking about this a

little bit before we came on, david, i think the 100 days -- >> it feels like 100 years. [laughter] , the artificial construct, and if you look back at administrations in the past, there is not necessarily a law that really happens in the first 100 days. we probably should try to toss this construct aside. hisld reagan did not sign first piece of legislation until march 31. it was on a breakfast tray in his hospital room after he was shot. george h.w. bush's first piece of legislation, meaningful piece of legislation, he signed, i am sure you remember, the whistleblower protection act. that was in april. so there is not necessarily a lot that does get done in the first 100 days. , think recent memory, obama

clearly because we were in an economic crisis, a lot happened. the stimulus bill, and i kind of handicapped that one because getting all additions spend money usually is not a heavy lift, but the auto bailout, other things. a lot happened in the first 100 days, but that has been more the exception than the norm. would iing forward, think is different and distinct about this administration is that the divide has seemed too hard in a little bit. i have been heartened because the reg reform stuff feels pretty real, but even then, to get anything meaningful done, you have to be able to legislate. that does mean is 60 votes. on any of the big meaningful stuff, it is difficult ring out to see that happening. even though in previous administrations, a lot of the big stuff, tax things, got done in the summer, it is hard to look out in the summer and have confidence that there will be an