children. from the independent line, good morning. i start by saying, i am an immigrant. i have been following this conversation. many things the guest is saying are quite right. some things are extremely, i would say dangerous. i agree with the person who called on the independent line about education being important. i also think this whole subject is so complicated that to try to boil it down to small chunks is dangerous. let me to you one thing about this business of ethnic -- differences in and ethnicity in terms of students that are

so-called gifted. both of my daughters are in the gifted program in virginia beach. both of them are doing very well. one is a doctor, one is a lawyer. i don't think this was a genetic issue. i think, if you look at the way immigration was set up in 1965. thato-called known whites were allowed to come in needed more education. come of ticket into the united states was a phd. i don't think that means i am genetically smarter or my kids are. it does mean that my wife and i were both able to fortunately instill in my kids, they both went to public schools. we have gifted programs. this is really a dangerous thing. i think it does border on

eugenics for people to talk about the differences in race. if you say there are differences amongst to children, there are differences amongst the economic strata as far as racial differences in higher and lower. host: i want to give him a chance to respond. calleri think the prevailed a lot of the discomfort. the fact of the matter is the research suggests there is a genetic component to intelligence. intellectual ability is not the student equally between groups. my own view on the matter is that to some degree that doesn't matter. there is quite a bit that can be done that is purely environment all in nature. i think there are cultures that value achievement in different ways. as we talked about, there are a

number of environmental factors that can be manipulated to ensure the kids have a high degree of ability. to deny altogether there is a genetic component to intelligence is simply not proved by evidence. host: teresa, from the bronx. teresa: thank you. i am curious, how long have you been in the country? were you raised here? here. i was born teresa: i think that you definitely are a racist, in the sense that you are trying to from south asia, and you are a hindu, if there was a genetic component, you would not be here because your country would be far superior to ours. let me to you something, i am an

older woman. i was educated in a public school system here in america which was very good. it was after the civil rights movement started. it was definitely a deliberate effort to demonize the public school system. they have taken away all of the things i had. we had languages, music, arts. nephews my nieces and go to school, they don't have these things in public school. furthermore, all of my friends -- their kids are in college, they are smart. the education of your child depends on the parenting. host: i want to give them a chance to respond. one of the reasons people are reluctant to talk about these issues is precisely because of callers like that who deal with the issue by using smears like racism to avoid

complicated issues. host: what about the issue of the decline of the public school system? does that factor into the research? guest: sure. i am critical of the public education system. i have an innate skepticism about the bureaucracy how they responsive to a democratic majority, if they can respond to outliers along the bell curve. that is why i think the solution to nurturing talent has to happen in the private sector. host: the executive director of the american conservative. you can find that at the american conservative.com. thank you. up next, we will be taking more of your calls about the russian probe as it reaches the white house. 202-740-8000.call republicans of 202748 8001.

independence, 202-7488 euros 02. -- 8002. a rhode island democrat talks about how the u.s. is rep -- protecting military government and private sector networks. : three things we need to look at, how to we protect the networks. and cyberde, nsa command are in charge of protecting. they do a good job. i think we are organized. the challenge is the training and personnel. there rapidly getting up to speed. i think they would acknowledge that not -- they are not where they want to be. they are getting their. i have confidence in their ability to defend the.mil network. personal training will be the key aspect of this. to continue, the trajectory they

-- the department of homeland security is responsible for the.gov network. it is a work in progress. we have to continually work at ceaiy,heartrngo t he. e hehaen ihotoe ottheomrk iinhean opratecr,ncdi ucre ere wredagean g e.mortk ll ecic fanalecr, d lvi--el incaon - tecounatns thpratseoro ra d me. ts n meow tth ess pcendla, t y d'ha t el cu t pnsth whe wlug srt ptan

alysoongoecitew ha auay heth oltoakth eie has ayb -- we have been able to give them greater tools to get scholarships in that area. host: you can see the entire interview with congressman jim langevin sunday at 10:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. on c-span. you can also hear it on c-span radio and newsmakers is available online at seized on.org -- c-span.org. we now return to our conversation about the latest developments in the russian probe. it has reached the white house according to the washington post. 202748 8000. call

republicans 202748 8001. independence 202748 8002. william is calling. good morning. what are your thoughts? william: i have been a republican most of my life. many of my friends have been democrats. i tried to encourage them to wake up and smell the coffee. it is rather ridiculous that people that are more a canned -- akin to be kind of socialism that putin is a party to would even think that somebody like donald trump, who is into free enterprise would have anything dictatorh the kind of that putin as. -- is. gangs saying like they are the victims and people

like waters of california who say that the cia distributed the drugs to all of the dealers in los angeles. i lived in los angeles at that time. it was not the cia. it was countries like mexico and colombia. about president trump's own comments before and after the election that he wants to work with russia. comments that a lot of air putin is a smart man and his praise for him. don't his own words show at least some sort of willingness to work with russia? william: i personally hate peyton -- bottom of. -- vladimir. if i was president i would try to work with him. i don't think people know how

terrible war with russia would be. we are at a point where we are ready to have a revolution in this country. it will not come about the way the people think it will come about. trump,ore on president as we noted, he is in saudi arabia today to kickoff a nine-day tour of several countries. his first overseas trip of his presidency. great tod earlier -- be in rehab, saudi arabia, looking forward to the afternoon and evening ahead. #abroad. we are talking about the ongoing investigation back at home for the president. the ongoing russian probe. matt, on the independent line. matt: good morning, thank you for c-span. i am a world war ii veteran.

i have been all through the politics. originally from my new york accent you realize i was a democrat. i left when ross perot ran. is,point is, what i learned keep your friends close and your enemies closer. that is precisely what trump is doing. all of this hullabaloo the democrats are throwing at us is nothing but smoke screen. waters, she should be impeached. deadame to the congress poor and now she is a multimillionaire. where did all of that money come from? host: what do you think about the appointment of a special counsel by the justice department in the russian investigation? matt: i have a lot of respect

for this special counsel. i think it is a good idea because there is no way of countering anything he says. unimpeachable as a reference that once he makes a positive statement, which i am fairly sure he will, it will be almost ridiculous. i just wonder if all of these people in the new york times and the washington compost, i wonder if they will have the intelligence to apologize for all of the turmoil may have caused this president. host: ok. in a programming note, this weekend our c-span cities tour takes book to be an american history tv to trenton, new jersey as we explore the city history and talk with local non-christian authors coming up

at 5:15 p.m. on book tv. all of the programs from the city will air together in one time block. crosswordsauthor of " of the revolution" describes trenton's role in the revolutionary war and the significance beyond being the location of a famous battle. important is a very city during the revolution. that is something that people only think about when they think about the battle of trenton. they recognize that was important. that was a major turning point. trenton goes way beyond in importance to just one battle. washington spent more time in new jersey than any other state during the revolution. the important thing to him was to keep the revolution going. keep the army in the field. i believe that new jersey in general and trenton in particular was very instrumental

in helping him, which that. -- him accomplish that. host: make sure you tune in as the c-span these tour travels to trenton, new jersey. to catch any of the programs from a cities that we visited or to see where we are going next, go to c-span.org/cities tour. tina is on the line from holly ridge, north carolina. tina: thank you very much. i appreciate all of the work you all are doing. i just want to share my personal feeling. think it is on our pledge of allegiance, one nation under god. i think instead of all of this turmoil, we need to trust that god is watching over us and taking care of us. host: ok.

in other headlines today from the washington times the reports that there could be a shakeup in the washington -- in the white house can vacation seem -- communications team. it says president trump is set to shake up his team moving sean spicer from the podium at briefings according to sources close to the white house. is excited to remain in the job in a press office, but he will be replaced by deputy press can -- press secretary sara sanders in providing the daily briefings. the sources said the shakeup was producible following two weeks of medications turmoil at the white house after the abrupt firing of james comey. ross on the line. good morning. ross: good morning. host: what is on your mind?

-- : host: jim, from pennsylvania. what are your thoughts on the latest developments? why thean't understand new york times and the washington post can get all of this information without having to publish it. the facts. goes, is the probe don't think it really has anything to do with the campaign or the election of 2016. thele must think republicans and democrats who do not have the

intelligence to make a decision based on the person running on the ticket. like jim, what would you government officials to do about saylligence agencies who that russia tried to meddle with the election and the u.s. government? jim: what is the intelligence agency supposed to be doing -- collecting data on other governments, not on political elections. i served two years in the service. there is an old saying that sometimes the intelligence is not -- does not get the facts right. people actually die. look at benghazi.

we were expected to believe someone, because they say something, yet they can take the fifth amendment. as far as comey getting fired, trump has the right. host: ok. some of the other headlines, the latest about julie on assange's legal issue, it says he may have legal troubles remaining despite the top in a rape inquiry. when the wiki leaks founder jumped bail and thought asylum and ecuador five years ago to avoid a rape investigation he was considered by many a hero of transparency, internet freedom, and resistance to the secret states. sweden prosecutors announced on friday that they were abandoning the attempt to extra bite him, invalidating the warrant for his arrest. moment,nge did a happy

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