equal as males. host: lisa is on the line from houston, texas. you are on with claire suddath. caller: hello. thank you for c-span. i was having a question about a , isarison between workers -- they alsoloyees consider, for example, i am thinking of the difference between a ceo of a major company and a small proprietor who just is trying to create better company. for example, i just wanted to give, like my daughter, she is a first-year computer science i noticed the hours she has to put in third she rides a bus to the campus,

-- at ut. i noticed the hours that she has to put in, she writes a bus to 9:00, and i worry about that, i did not tell her that. but there are concerns women have to worry about. i do not worry about campus because they have guns on campus , at school. but there are so many things to be considered that women have to take into account that maybe isn't talked about, like the safety issues and what we're really competing. also, how is the work a ceo does , who gets paid 1000% more than their lower, then, like, a hugetarial person in a corporation like united health care, how is their works that much more dangerous than, like, a secretary. host: i want to give a

claire a chance to respond. guest: i am not clear on what your question was, but when we say all women, all men, it is everyone, all women in every job, and everyone who is a man in every job because most ceo's are men. they tend to be in that category. i do not think we are comparing the job of a ceo of a fortune 500 company to a woman running her own business and claiming there is a gap there. that is not necessarily what we are talking about. when we talk about jobs, that would be to ceo's, one is a man, one is a woman, or something like that. as far as safety, i think that is something that women deal with throughout their entire -- so safetyy see going to work is no different from walking home at night.

that is unfortunately part of being a woman in this world, and that is something women think about. that is true. host: john calling from silver spring, maryland. hi. caller: thank you for taking my call. i think the whole purpose here is most women, they do not fight their own right because the reality is any company that you the firsty for a job, thing you asked, companies might not tell you come up with a , this is what we pay the males, this is what we pay the females. equal, thene is not there is dissemination but the reality is, a woman cannot become successful because every time a woman stands up and says, "look, i'm doing the same job as a female counterpart, and i am getting less money, people laugh at you.

i have four daughters. it is a shame. i was told, look, you stand up for what you believe, whether they like it or not. when i sent my daughters to college, and i know they can do the job that men can, i will not expect less than what men gets paid. host: ok, john, let's let claire responds that. can women on her own push back? guest: yes. the short answer is yes. the longer answer is yes, but it is hard, for two reasons. one is that women tend to ,egotiate differently than men for whatever reason. there are studies that have been done about this, and i have also talked to people in hr who interview people for a living and offer them jobs. they say in their experience, women do not negotiate quite the same way that men do. when women are offered a salary or offered a raise, they more often than not -- not every time

-- but more often than not, they accept it. askednd to push back and for more money. why that is, apparently women are just culturally taught that you should just say thank you. i have also struggled with this in my life. but there is also the fact that we do push back, are you going to be considered "bossy"? i have talked to women who have pushed that can ask for more and met resistance. some met resistance and broke through and didn't get the raise or the bonus, and others were just shot down. be that you ask for something and don't get it because they do not think it is appropriate. regardless of who you are. that is something that women do deal with. iz is on the line from new jersey. we have a few minutes.

what is your question for claire suddath? caller: claire, i have very glad that you are bringing up this issue. i worked in education, very traditional, from 1970's to most recently when i retired. during that time, i got a masters plus credit to my calling card, and i was pushed to get the most that i put under the contract. i think women cannot be afraid of being called "bossy>' ." smile when they call you that and take the extra money to the bank because you needed to help yourself, help your family. you're not just there to waste your time in a job. you are there to make it economically viable for you. and you are also helping women behind you. host: what is your response, claire? guest: i think that is a great way to go about it turned i think that is something women should think about when they are thinking about how much they are

worth and how much they want to ask for, and it will also help the men in her life, too. host: ok, claire suddath, staff writer for "bloomberg businessweek."you can find her story on businessweek.com. you can also find her on twitter. thank you for joining us today. guest: thank you. your up next, we will take calls on open phones. democrats -- i promise this is right this time -- demogr crats, you can call (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. and independents, (202) 748-8002 . booktv in american history tv to portland, oregon. we will feature all of our nonfiction book running from the city including an interview with author scott ferris talking and j edgar hoover's prime suspect.

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shoring up the election system. state officials are crying foul refusing touest, turn over some or all of the information requested to say, the president has responded on twitter. he says, "numerous states are refusing to give information to the very distinguished voter fraud panel. what are they trying to hide?" good morning, christina. caller: good morning. how are you? host: i am good. what is on your mind? caller: as far as the voter fraud, i think it is great. about i am aing very successful women in business. i think computer, s.t.e.m. helps women. it is so important for women to learn how to negotiate and the work field. we have only been doing this 20, 30 years compared to that men have been doing it for a lot

longer. i think women have been activated to the business climate, and they have not learned how to negotiate the same way that men do when i come harde table, i am a negotiator, and at the end of the day, i am able to make more money than the men who are my counterpart. it is confidence in negotiation. i wanted to say that. when it comes to the voter polls , i love what trump is doing. great for him host. host: james is calling in from south carolina on our democratic line. hi, james. caller: hello. host: go ahead. tell us what is on your mind. [indiscernible] that a worked a job woman has maybe say money that i did that she has produced the same amount of work. host: ok.

we have another james who is calling in from white plains, new york -- i am sorry, from grand forks, indiana. james is calling in on our republican line. caller: hi, i am calling in from dakota. host: sorry. caller: it is ok. it looks a little the same. a little less trees. [laughter] host: you are very kind. what is on your mind today? caller: i only caught the tail end of that discussion, and i hope there was some guy out there or some smart lady who called in, a smart, republican woman, who i admire what you have to say, i hope there is someone who thought of the death gap, meaning come every year, the numbers are between 94% and 96% of people who. at the workplace are meant. talk about unfairness. approximately 4000 men died last

year compared to 200 women. these are meant doing incredibly brutal jobs that women -- not only do could do, and some of them do come on but it is almost impossible for them to do. back in pennsylvania, i was a slate roofer 1000 young guy, and rubber.lot of epdm i would come home beaten and bloodied. when i was 25 years old, i could barely walk. that was the only way i could hour back$12, $15 an in the 1980's. you look the oil fields, the man can't, which are called "man -- man for a reason camps, which are called "man ca mps" for a reason, you look at the men who are maimed every year. herauex say?

about the blood still to make money. do not forget about the thousands of many died over the year and a half filled in the infrastructure of the country and are buried in the graves of cement, whether it is the grand coulee dam, the hoover dam for your area.unnel in gratitude,a little ladies, if men stayed at home, the entire system would collapse. host: mike as a democratic caller. what is on your mind, mike. ? -- is a biggest joke in the world. it has gutted the epa.

-- the national labor -- calledon, and assassination of caesar with donald trump. people do not understand. the may be the end of progress,tes is any as with the death of julius caesar fashion line host: ok. death of julius caesar -- host: ok. "senators, trump urge

repeal." in arkansas, the "arkansas democrat gazette" focuses on the travel ban. the chaos of the original, and the newly implemented travel ban. it also talks about trump tweeting for a full repeal of the health care law on its cover. iouston chronicle" focuses on .c.e., targeting parents of smuggled children. finally, the "indianapolis star," leading with the story we talked about a moment ago about some state officials refusing to comply with the request by the roll house for voter information. steve is calling from indianapolis on the democratic line. caller: the matter and want to

talk about is the voter commission. even in the red states, indiana, even they want to block this. they are really overreaching for this, and it is the republican party -- there is one party that continues to gerrymander and redistrict, and it is the republicans. they also want to restrict , and it is voter id one party, and it is republicans, and they want to keep it on a weekday. voting on want people the weekend when there could be a lot more people getting out. they do everything they could do to keep people from voting, which is the most un-american thing you possibly do. it is the republicans. all they want to do is keep everything in a cheating manner un-american, it is and we just need to step up. it is a lot of poor people that are the ones voting for them. we have got to step up and wake up, america.

host: steve, do you have any concerns about the integrity of the voter systems, whether people are trying to cast ballots that they are not entitled to cast? does happen, it would be something that would never swing it one way or another. we're talking people that have died in things like that. right now, they're trying to say it is a long illegal aliens. there were almost 3 million more people that voted for hillary this time around, so that is just way beyond. and that is another thing that i ,eft out, the electoral college it has only helped the republicans in recent history. they have everything swung their way, and we don't even have to mention the russian situation that is under investigation, so they are really trying to swing it is so blatant

that we as americans have to wake up and get our youth and everybody out here to vote. host: ok, charlie is calling from roslyn heights, new york on our independent line. hi, charlie. caller: hi, everybody. i was really excited when a man from north dakota called and put things straight about men and women. men have it hard, too. i was drafted into vietnam. i said no to it. women were not drafted into the army. that is not saying women do not have it hard. but i'm a progressive. i do not believe in identity politics. migrants for small blacks first, it is not going to get us anywhere. it will make things worse. you, charlie, let me ask today, women do serve in the military, in fact, they concert in combat positions, yet there is still a gender gap.

i will not speak on this because i am not knowledgeable about it. but from the statistics i see, men died, they do not have the lifespan of women, and they die from stress-related illnesses. i don't know. but as a regressive, identity politics is the wrong way to go. to say "my group first" is causing problems in this country, and it is not progressive. arereal progressives talking about change for everybody, helping everybody. host: dan is calling from san diego on our republican line. what is on your mind today, jim? caller: good morning, c-span. this is jim in california. we have no way to identify who is an assistant and who is not a citizen. you fill it out,

you send it in, they send you a valid, or whatever, and no one in this state knows whether you are a citizen or noncitizen. with regards to the electoral college, the first president and the second president of the united states were voted into office by the electoral college. host: ok. in other headlines today, the "new york times" reports that the epa chief is planning a test of climate science. scott pruitt plans a team of researchers to test the on -- fic findings

host: rick perry, the energy secretary, endorsed the idea in a senate hearing on thursday. michael is calling in on our democratic line. hi, michael. what is on your mind? caller: hi. well, we forgot, as far as i'm concerned, mr. trump -- i am not calling him my president because i did not vote for him -- as far as i'm concerned, he is a parasite of a leader to this country. what about seeing his taxes? we forgot all about that and his billions of dollars or whatever. anyway. i am and ask naval veteran. he is just really bad. that is all i really have to say

about that. right, susan calling in from santa monica, california on our independent line. hi, susan. caller: hey. how are you doing? host: i am great. what did you want to talk about today? iller: i had to laugh when heard the gentleman talking about men dying. death, men die some of of what man has ever died from childbirth? -- yes, men dying, but what man has ever died from childbirth? it is biology. we are getting away from the , andtion of human beings we're doing more use of drones, so you will see more equity -- i am sorry, i am

getting nervous. it is ok, susan. have you ever worried that you were paid less than men in your jobs? caller: absolutely i was paid less. my entire career, i was paid less than men. a lot is that women were different jobs than men. women work as secretaries. saw it in sales, the men were the salespeople, and they made all the money. i see it in program management in the military industrial complex, and they can take more than the women who are working the contracts. what else did i want to talk to you about? host: let's taken one more headline as we're taking your calls on what is on your mind. the groups are protesting

pentagon for the delay. lgbt groups are blasting the pentagon to displ delay for six months in listing transgender people. mmo from the defense secretary james mattis, on friday, inamed -- in a memo from defense secretary james mattis, on friday, lgbt organizations slammed the decision, a think tank said it will "compromise military readiness." iris is calling from new jersey on our democratic line. hi, iris. caller: hi. i wanted to make a comment on the voter registration. for several months now, my friends and i have been expecting this to happen because

it is voter suppression. it is a way to ensure that the republicans again be elected, for the president be elected again, or something what trump calls "rigging the election." we are also expecting sometime in his presidency to request that the limit on the presidency would be removed. registration, at all levels, it is a protection totalitarianp any terms, any type of dictatorship from taking hold of our country. all of the voter registration commissions out there that are fighting this, i applaud them, because this should be obvious to everybody. zeke is calling from

indian on our republican line. caller: about the gender speak this morning, i suggest everybody watch the movie "red pill." industriests out how are very skewed for female. just because we are strong does not mean we need to done. also with the voter registration, that kind of stuff , whenever the government is asking for personal information about citizens of state, that does not sound like a good thing to me. i would really encourage everyone, let your state no, do not give your government all your personal information. there is no need for that. and watch the "red pill" movie. host: there is calling in from tennessee on our democratic line. what do you want to say, larry? my concern is in the

last election, and the house of representatives, they removed the election assistance commission, giving the money to this is -- the election assistance commission is part of the federal government that aids a secures to provide way to vote. -- keeping their computers upgraded, where they cannot be hacked and stuff like that. trump first when got elected. host: ok. that will have to be the last word. that is all for today's "washington journal."

tomorrow, we have the interfaith alliance president jack moline. longtime career diplomat james dobbins will be here to discuss his book. and documentary filmmaker alexandra pelosi will be here to discuss her new hbo film that features an unabridged reading of the words of the nations founding fathers by celebrities and politicians. that is all for today. join us back tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. ♪ [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2017] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> coming up today on c-span, a

look at russian attempts to influence democratic elections. then senate leaders discuss ongoing efforts to pass a replacement to the health care law. later, intelligence officials testify on fisa and whether or not to reauthorize the law that allows talent -- intelligence agencies to access the telik mitigations of foreign nationals outside the u.s. -- the telecommunications of foreign nationals outside the u.s. eastern on 6:00 p.m. the civil war, historians discuss new york city during the war, from divided political loyalties to its southern economic ties and the 1863 draft riots. >> it seems clear these draft organic perfect storm of resentment that have been building for maybe half a century. you were saying that this was not so much an irish riot or eth

nic riot but a working man's riot, the largest in our history. ourunday at 8:00 p.m. on presidential history, philip placeslks about associated with george washington's birthplace. >> there were still amway stories about the land, and the washington's themselves were living further away. retreat.rt of a there was not a lot on the land to recall where the buildings were. p.m. eastern on reel america, the 1977 documentary "men of bronze" about the soldiers of the u.s. infantry regiment known as the harlem hellfighters. >> all of our equipment,