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parents, and the community. the panel is part of a national afterschool summit hosted by the arnold schwarzenegger institute for state and local policy the university of california. [applause] >> thank you. this panel conversations focus is how afterschool programs help keep kids in school and on track. we will start with monica. when they said, arnold, isn't this program spoiling kids? you did not need a program, right? i said when i was secretary of education that this is like a tale of two cities. we have high schools that win the economic decathlon and we have high schools that are like dropout factories and unfortunately that is usually determined by zip code. the poor communities where 90% of the kids are in poverty are

not getting the same level of certified teachers, books, and other things they need in those schools. let me get you, second-largest school district in the country with 600,000 kids. what to see the role of afterschool? it is not what schools is supposed to do, but how does it help get the goals that every school district needs to achieve? >> absolutely. what we know in l.a. is we are all about 100% graduation. 100% attendance. engaged them ways. it relies on an afterschool plan. l.a. unified has gone from 40 -- 45% graduation to 75% graduation because we have improved relationship with all students. we have built 131 new schools to make space but we focused on personalization and decentralization.

afterschool is about enhancing services to young people, about somebody caring, being there, but also somebody investing in you. afterschool programs help is learned in a very positive way so you get role models. whether it is strategies or athletic or art and music. whatever that and richman is, we are telling you we love you, we have high expectations of you, and we believe in you. even for kids who participate in the supper program, that means they get three meals a day on campus. our afterschool folks are mentors are bridges, connectors, and sometimes, sometimes, they are the only person that that young person would have during that time. l.a. unified's program, we have 1200 programs on 600 sites, serving over 100,000 kids every

single day. yes, i am glad we are here because, yes, we need more. it is a strategy for app academic wellness, and social, emotional learning, and we know it works. we know it works. it is good for l.a., it is good for california, it is good for the usa. >> thank you, monica. i will come back a little later. we want to talk about kids in poverty where english is a second language. speaking of the day program, what it can do to supplement a school program to help achieve the goals. i am going to go to the oregon superintendent of the year, heidi, from your perspective, as the superintendent of the year, what are the best things -- this could be helpful to the people in each state, what can they focus on? what does afterschool best focus on to help the kids achieve what they need? heidi: after school helps

students dream new dreams. [applause] it is very difficult for kids, especially in rural areas to dream about careers that they have never seen. they had not been exposed to. through afterschool programming we are able to develop long-term mentoring via skype and other videoconferencing with professionals in fields. that allows the students to start to see a different future for themselves. we support that. we support that with classes to build the skills and confidence that they can move forward. my favorite examples, we have a great group of people with blue chalk media that will mentor the students. as the students gain editing and and video skills they can share their voices. the confidence that helps the students gain changes their trajectory. they no longer think of themselves as a student in poverty, but a student at a mission, a purpose, and a path. >> thank you.

i am going to go to you because not only are you one of the great think tankers, you actually have experience bringing education to southern states. from that perspective, similar question, what are the best uses of afterschool time to help kids stay in school and on track? what can they do. >> first of all, it is great to be on the usc campus. i was never a student here, but i did grow up in los angeles, in the crenshaw district. in the early 1970's i learned to swim at a pool not too far away from here. it is good to be here. let me go to your question. let's be clear, afterschool programs are educational, not necessarily just academic. here is the difference. when i learned how to swim, that was educational, but there is no test, or standardized test for swimming. when i was in st. louis i had a

chance to speak to a number of students, most of them free, reduced price lunch students who were learning to play chess. last i checked there was not a standardized test for chess playing. look at florida and virginia. we have good public schools in both states. about great public schools and therefore we don't need an after school program. you can have a great school, and a great afterschool program. between 3:00 until 6:00 we are building students minds, bodies, spirits, and souls. from talking to students, parents, particularly parents, who say the after school program is more than just babysitting. those were the cold phrases people would say, we should be paying for them. the reality is they're giving parents comfort. they are going to get access to social capital skills they're not going to get in the seven day school hour or to comment

what they learned. for me afterschool programs ra holistic approach to building holistic children to in fact make the country great again. [applause] >> eloi. i wanted to hear from k-12 school district leaders. now we are going to learn from the gentleman who knows community colleges with over 2 million students. out of everyone in the country you are probably be best seated to understand what the gaps are. what are the students getting out of high school and going to community college, what are they lacking so that this audience can better understand, from your perspective, the areas afterschool might better focus on to help fill those gaps? eloi: thank you, bonnie, thank you for the invitation.

that is hugely important for all of higher education. the education of our students, higher education does not begin the day they walk into the community college or public university, it begins their first days of life. all the way through. those that are successful, those successful ino be those institutions are the children that have the opportunities in life, to be able to navigate life and learn to have a structure in place, a network in place that allows them to have a safety net, allows them to be able to progress socially. that is the biggest gap we have when kids come to our colleges. we know today that a high school diploma is not the default anymore to get into the workforce. we are exacerbating the challenges they will have

throughout life, if they're not to come to college. that readiness begins early. for us, afterschool programs building a social network in the communities that help students with all of the skills they need to be successful in college, not just academic preparation, but life preparation. those are the biggest challenges we face. california community colleges, it is our privilege to accept the top 100% of students. from all walks of life all , backgrounds young and old, they come to our colleges. the greatest denominator is whether or not they built a network in their life that allows them to succeed in life and to succeed in life, it allows them to succeed in college and make their life easier. bonnie: i'm going to follow up on that. yes, as important as the social network is, thank you for stressing that, while afterschool cannot replace the

academic teachings that regular schools should, what are -- where do you see the greatest areas of academic weakness that exist in the students math, , english? stem? what areas academically might you be seeing some deficiencies in some of the community college students entering? eloi: as educators, we have created standards. whether or not that makes sense, we have created them. algebra is the primary, essentially the killing fields for students of color in higher education. if there is an area of emphasis, study after study shows, if a student does not master algebra two in elementary school, in high school, their chances of succeeding in higher education are probably less than 10%. it is literally the biggest

barrier to quality credential of anything else. certainly language skills, vocabulary, and as long as algebra is a gateway to a college credential we need to focus on it. bonnie: i will pick up on that with you. i remember when i had the privilege of working with arnold and danny and starting out of the l.a. program in middle schools, is that we also heard the importance of algebra. especially middle school, it has to be fun or the kids will not stay. they are not required to be there. i remember learning how afterschool programs could use "disguised learning." they would use a cooking class to teach fractions. gerard, i will go to you first. monica you also focus on this. from your perspective, what are the unique ways that afterschool

programs in school can help meet some of these academic gaps? gerard: several years ago my foundation sponsored a project where we interviewed 406 parents in four cities to figure out exactly what afterschool did for their children. a majority of the parents were low income. they had their children in afterschool programs that focused on the arts and the science. some things they were getting in school, but it helps to supplement. what was particularly interesting, equestrian. why? the parent was clear. we do not own a horse. let's start with that. number two, it is learning to not only how to ride a horse, but how to feel the horse. that is understanding how to feel yourself. how to work with yourself. number two, the horse will gallop fast, do a calculation between start to finish. at the end of the day, the horse eats a lot of food. if you're not going to take care of the horse, how much would you put together every day and every

week. it became math, science, can -- can aesthetics, and otherwise. this is a kid who otherwise you would assume would never understand a horse other than maybe being a bookie. my father was a bookie in l.a., so i know how that works. the mother said, this will get him out of poverty. for me, i have seen unique programs change the lives of students, but also encourage parents to go back to school. something we often don't talk about, the spillover effect. bonnie: monica, a similar question, you have one of the leading districts with an actual focus on afterschool. what do you see -- again most of , all these funds focus on the lower income populations, which does not have the same quality school, unfortunately as the wealthier children in those neighborhoods.

what can they do, also can you pick up on what gerard said about parent involvement? everyone in education knows the everyone in education knows the more likelihood for success is to involve parents. how does after school play a unique role in all of the above? monica: l.a. unified is 91% kids of color, and 84% of kids who qualify for free and reduced lunch. kids who are english learners in the neighborhood of 25%-28%. all through l.a. unified, and we are large, the afterschool programs are amazing. things like cyber patriots, where kids are coming in and really exploring robotics. right now there is a team from l.a. unified in baltimore participating. that is awesome. we also have an aquatics program. it brings us a whole set of

pools so kids -- it is like what you are talking about about the horse. the experience of swimming is not something that is available everywhere. our beyond the bell partners create the experience for our kids. that is really life-changing. the other thing i want to share is we have an academic decathlon. in the world of the best of the best, worst of the worst lives in l.a. unified, we provide ways that our students benefit from each other in the learning experiences. we want to set a high bar for all and give different levels of support. if you are in english learner, the ability to spend more time speaking with people. the ability to hear more people talking in english, that is very important. if you are a poor child, like we heard before, your environment is not going to go beyond a few blocks from the house. when you get on a bus and you go visit a college, a football

stadium, whatever the field trip is, that is just building desire, dream, efficacy because you are beginning to imagine that world for yourself. our afterschool programs and the partners that we work with, in l.a. unified, we have so many partners. we have organizations that come and say, i have resources, i have talent. i have people who care. i want to engage in school, not just the regular teachers, we love our teachers, but not just the credential kind of learning. adults with talent that want to invest in the next generation. i have to tell you, i have never met a parent who does not care about their kids. one thing i want to say about l.a. county, kids in probation, that is at an all-time low. why is that? we have better attendance. we try to eliminate the dropout factory. we still have a long way to go.

but we are conscious about the preservation prevention strategy. if we can keep you in school, we absolutely change our neighborhoods. if we can figure out a way to work with our committee colleges, work with the afterschool partners, we are building that support system around you that is helping you achieve what you are. our parents want successful and supportive schools. i have to tell you, our afterschool folks, they are relentless in investing in the young people. i just think about it as a critical, it is a must-have. it is a must-have because it helps our kids -- we have 180 days of schooling. we all know we need to do more. those afterschool experiences, whatever they are, however they come to your school, they always pay off. bonnie: thank you.

heidi oregon, obviously l.a.ferent from california. , as superintendent of the year obviously you know the importance of parental involvement. in l.a., we were are lucky because we have l.a.'s best. we have afterschool all-stars focused on middle schools. we take the kid all the way through. in your experience in oregon, tell us a little bit about what the best afterschool providers in oregon are doing right for elementary schools, middle, and pick up on the point that monica made. while we are all, especially some of the state leaders here support trying to get more funding from state, together getting more from federal. it leverages a lot of private dollars. monica talked about the local partners. can you address what illuminates the best of what is working.

afterschool in oregon? >> one of the most positive aspects is it gives all parents something to celebrate with her children. we see parents rallying around a child. if you have a kid who has not shown a passion, how do you wrap around and support that child? after school allows every child to explore and interest. every child to develop a passion and loop the family in. the best programs offer courses for the parents. we offer ged classes and english and spanish classes in the community and many of the schools throughout oregon do that as well. that gives families the opportunity to learn together and show that learning is a forever process, not just a school time activity and really , allows parents to feel like they are modeling positive behaviors for their kids. all of those factors combined give us a more educated

citizenry in a community. they give us an opportunity for informal interactions that are more positive. often school is so structured and parents can sometimes feel intimidated to walk in indoor and have a conversation with a teacher. if you instead say, we have been doing horticulture, we are going to have a harvest night and celebrate with a meal, would you come join us? that is a different environment and that gets parents in the door and helps them feel welcome in a school environment. they might previously a have not been so comfortable. bonnie: eloi, two questions that i have for you. one is to pick up on this partnership notion. the horseback riding, the swimming, and the value that is, to the student, maybe not academically, but educationally. the second question is, our community colleges and california -- a lot of work-related programs, nurse degrees and other things. part of what today is about is

how afterschool programs help prepare kids for the workforce. community colleges are very focused on that. the two questions, the first is, pick up on these kinds of partnerships and the value of the horseback riding in the pools, as you see it. in workforce development, what are you seeing in other committee colleges that a middle school or high school could focus on to help make the college students more ready? eloi: just as noted, this is about communities coming together to support the children in the community. as community colleges we really believe in this approach. we are in 113 different communities across california. we are not successful without partners, partners and the nonprofit world, k12 programmers -- partners, public universities all coming together and focusing

on the youth of the community. we are fortunate, we live in a day and age when these partnerships are growing leaps and bounds. we have college promise programs popping up throughout the entire country. college promise programs are focused on bringing an entire community together and making a commitment to every single child in that community that they will have the opportunity to get a higher education. it's a wonderful time for our colleges. we hope the federal government recognizes and supports the kind of effort. to the other point, opportunity is about having access to, in a meaningful way, to the workforce. the workforce is very discriminating today. it discriminates against those who don't have some sort of credential. just as we are increasing high school graduation rates, as we should, we keep moving the goalposts. now the economy is demanding

more and more credentials. arecommunity colleges focused on that issue. creating pathways, clear pathways from k12 through community college. and if a student wants, onto a higher level. the more students we can put in these very clear, navigable pathways, the better off the workforce is. the better off the communities are. the healthier the state and nation are. healthier our stated nation are. >> am going to bring up something that certain 10 robinson brought up in his head talk and that is his belief that we are squashing creativity in our students in our k-12 schools , another opportunity for afterschool programs to come in and deal with this aspect. let's talk about creativity the stem, theth, reading, the standardized testing, none of that tests

creativity and we all know how important that is for a well-rounded human being. you on that.with you see the need for getting test scores up. and,mportant is creativity from what you have seen with the best afterschool programs, what are they able to do to help bring that back into students lives? essential.ty is what we know is that we learn from our kids. not afraid of jumping in the pool or getting in the course. when we squash kids, that learned hopelessness of i just can't do it, what they are telling us is we can't do in the system. to. unified had to change

see different graduation rates and we had to embrace learning. why is everyone showing up at the afterschool programs? the dancers or the gallery, those programs are full and we don't have to beat folks down to come. we had to learn from that. part of that is the personalization. is moving away from the structure to what is the most important thing to the relationship on feelings. remember the academic skills are one part and i believe reading is essential. it is a life skill. it's not that we have to do one or the other, but that reading and math makes a difference. our social, emotional learning, listening -- the kids who can listen and actually follow direction and get something

done. is understando do where the kids are at him a build a system of support and that attended to their needs, but it wasn't one or the other, it had to be both. creativity in los angeles is a way of life and the school system was the one that had to kids are accept our different and the world is changing, so we should all accept that. youngbout helping the person trial the best in them and i have to tell you, the afterschool program, this is going to be risky, but those folks were happier than the people i saw during the day. giving themselves permission to have a good time, giving themselves permission to be human, we have to get the job done. but we have to treat the adults in the program as well as we are

treating the kids in the community we all live in. are two state education think tanks -- talk about this in general, particularly the role afterschool can play. influencesty exposure and exposure influences creativity. here's what i mean -- the number of college students involved in afterschool programs is tremendous. we had tutors from usc coming to my elementary school, but i fromt need usc students l.a., they were from different parts of the country. we have a number of colleges involved in afterschool programs and our students who are in central virginia, many of them for reasons may not travel outside a 20 mile radius and most of them don't own a passport.

yet the superintendence received a grant from the national science foundation who partnered with other universities and adults to allow students in central virginia to have conversations with students in brazil. imagine what that means for understanding more than one language, the importance of looking at geography, the parents coming in saying my kids are talking about a passport. i don't have a passport. .t is the exposure this exposure to people who eat different foods than you do, who think differently than you do and live in different parts of the world. yet people coming in because of the military, so creativity is --luenced by creativity and creativity's influence by exposure and exposure is influenced by creativity. continue to pile

requirement on top of requirement on top of our students. the we out he is most of us who graduated from our universities probably could not get into them today. cocktailo have discussions around creativity and what it takes to get into our university, but the reality is we probably could not get into it today. the world that our kids live in is much more competitive than ever and much more stressed than ever. is something we need to foster in every single one of our classrooms. we need to allow people to express their creativity. i think we are recognizing that in our colleges, recognizing the to infuse entrepreneurship into our curriculum and allow individuals to express their talents and creativity in ways that allow them to break the cycle of poverty because there are many ways to skin this cat and education is certainly

central. have to be careful. it's easy to talk about the lack of creativity when you are at a cocktail party and we've all graduated from university's. so just supporting our public schools, allowing them the freedom, pressing against those who want to continue to promote standardized exams, allowing teachers the opportunity to receive the professional development they need so that we give the opportunity to those in the lowest income communities the same opportunity for creativity that we give to those in the highest income committees. how do you incorporate creativity and what are the best ways afterschool programs might be able to do that? >> they don't need anyone to incorporate creativity for them because students are creative.

what we need to do is raise the terriers that stop them from exploring. what afterschool programs do is allow them to play with it. our goal is to listen to the kids and follow their lead. we have great ideas of's student ideas that have formed. we have a strong intern program were high school students in turn and work their way up to becoming the teachers of the afterschool program. a high school student came up with that idea. our greenhouse, high school student came up with that. we have a race car club and that came from kids. it's always a matter of giving kids the voice and then taking time to listen to them and get out of their way. they know how to do this. follow them. [applause] limited time we have left, rather than directing a single focus question, i'm going to allow each of you an opportunity, if you have one he's of advice to give to these

people from all 50 states that are afterschool champions about what each of you feel they should be focused on that could most help our kids, what would it be? since you mentioned creativity, there is a former civil rights leader dame september clark and she was a mentor to dr. martin luther king and yesterday was his assassination time in tennessee and she said i like chaos because from chaos comes creativity and we are now in the middle of a conversation about financial chaos, whether you will have the money to support your programs. let's use this as a moment of creativity and i will take a point from malcolm gladwell. he did research on the italian renaissance and when we talk about all of the people who made the italian renaissance great, he said what made them great isn't the fact that they were geniuses. they were not geniuses by

themselves. they became geniuses because they came together. in this chaotic moment, we will do the genius thing working together because at the end of the day, thought about left or right, it's about doing the right thing for kids to make sure they are not left behind economically. take the chaos and become creative. >> i want to offer you to pieces. number one, celebrate your success. in education, we have to learn about marketing, talking about what works, and how you are successful. the beautiful opportunity in this movement right now as we have thousands of stories of celebration. ,ometimes what we have to do videotape the kids, put it out, let people know, let the taxpayers payers know, the leaders in your community know how it made sense. saying thank you is a great opportunity to say a crenshaw

graduate and it works. we have toond thing do is really talk about belief. if we believe we are the leaders, we have to talk about plan a, plan b and plan c. in the great california recession where we lost $2.7 billion, the people of l.a. unified were amazing. employees, neighbors, allies, people step up. our opportunity to organize as a community of believers -- what is the next 10 years going to look like? that, i would say to all of you thank you come a thank you, thank you. we need you and we rely on you and you have absolutely made a difference. >> thank you. l.a. usc is very lucky to have you.

i agree with everything that has just been said, but focusing on help in these children and their parents leave in themselves, believe that not education something that is part of their lives, but that higher education is available to them and is an opportunity for them. all to help them believe this is part of their future. the last thing i would say is continue to do what you do here. these programs are important to our future. an attack on these programs is an attack on our children and an attack on our children is an attack on her future. we cannot let our future be undermined because of short-term beliefs. >> i just wanted to pick up on

the belief in the kids. it's always been true and maybe now more so where poor kids and kids of color get told they are losers and that they are never going to make it. they don't hear they are going to be a winner and i've had the privilege over 30 years of watching arnold go to these schools and i watched just by him saying to them we love you and you can be a winner and you can do anything and i've seen what that means to some of the kids. thank you for that advice. >> afterschool is a magical time. it's the one time of the kids day where they are guaranteed to be in a safe environment, receive some sort of food to fuel the fire and learn without barrier. we cannot look at afterschool as a negotiable. it is an essential element to childhood. we have to work to preserve the

magic for kids because they needed and is essential for their growth. >> let's hear it for this unbelievable group of leaders. [applause] congress arers of using their 11 day fourth of july break to visit other parts of the world. arizona senator john mccain is in afghanistan today visiting troops there. he and other members of his delegation did a flyover of the afghanistan and pakistan border. he will be spending the july 4 holiday with troops. amy klobuchar spending the holiday in minnesota and she made this video which was tweeted out today. duluth on a in beautiful lake superior. this week, we heard something pretty interesting. commission ons election integrity asked every state in the union to provide sensitive voter information from people's birthdays to their vo