ways in republican hands at the time, came together to get welfare reform and spending restraint to sort of keep spending flat while the economy grew andriev knews caught up to spending. that's how you get to surplus and that's why you think you're seeing so much focus in this administration about getting economic growth. you cannot cut your way to a balanced budget. you cannot tax your way to balanced budget. but you can keep that growth on spending and grow your way to balanced budget. >> watch our interview with mick mulvaney, director of the office of management and budget, friday at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span, c-span adio, and cspan.org. sunday on american history tv on c-span3, we'll look at two u.s. presidents. at 6:00 p.m. eastern, john f. kennedy's life in photos from the smithsonian american art museum's images. >> you know, the wonderful thing about the kennedys is they never pushed photographers or writers away. they didn't care how they were

photographed. they didn't care whether the tie was fixed, whether the coat was on. this or that. they knew that if they made themselves accessible to the they would be published and of course it was a groundswell. there's no question about it. that the media coverage of j.f.k. was just the first time we'd that will be followed at eight, looking at reagan's relationship with both paul the second. -- with pope john paul ii. the extraordinary untold story of the 20th century. >> the pope had sent a cable to reagan saying -- i am praying for you. then reagan sent a cable to the vatican saying -- i am praying to you. as for moscow, if they are worried at this point, about a kinship between the pope, and the president -- they really

ought to worry about it. >> american history tv, all weekend, every weekend, on c-span3. >> coming up next on c-span, testimony on russian corruption and actions against russia. the army chief of staff on military readiness and comments by the president on transgender people serving on the military. police officers who responded to the congressional baseball game were honored at the white house. and esteemed operation of the pentagon program that gave military equipment to a safe organization. also, ongoing at this time, repeal of obamacare. senators demand assurances from the house that it will not actually become law. republicans lindsey graham, john mccain, and cassidy expressed their concern that the health care measure would be passed by the house without first going to

conference to solve differences between the house and then it measures. the senate has been working on the health care bill and about three hours of debate remain. wilkin -- we will take a look at the senate floor and listen for a moment. >> i am getting emails from folks saying -- what is going on? what is happening in the united states senate that they cannot keep track of what it is that we moved to. we do not know either? we are here, probably all night waiting for the majority to finally produce a bill that they will use to attempt to repeal and maybe replace or not, the affordable care act. everyat we know is that single proposal that has been brought forward in recent days, has two pages. it would -- has two issues, it reduces coverage and raises cost. it might be 20 million americans

or 32 million who lose coverage. different scores for different proposed bills. by 15%, raise costs 20%, or 30%. sometime later tonight will see the final bill presented on the floor and hopefully will get some score so that we know what we are voting on you for we finally get to it. but what is so scary to families that i'm hearing from, is that after seven months, of majority rule, where the republican party controls the senate and the white house, we do not have a finished bill for us to debate tonight in detail. and we do not yet know exactly what we will vote on later tonight. we just know a single see, every proposal -- >> that was a senator from delaware speaking. live coverage of the debate from the senate continues to read on c-span two. we will be taking your calls and comments as you can.

a likely final vote is expected tomorrow. ♪ >> c-span's children journal live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. coming up on friday, we focus on the debate in the senate to repeal and replace the health care law. be sure to watch live it seven eastern front -- numeral 7:00 eastern, friday morning. >> next, we will hear from investor william browder testifying on corruption in russia. his former lawyer, surrogate skynet ski -- sergei magnit died after investigating corruption. last year president obama approved the magnet ski act which band --magnitsky whic