retiring. at least whether to be in power for the first two years. >> thank you for joining us on his uighurs -- newsmakers. this week on capitol hill, the house takes up a double body funny for hurricane and wildfire relief and the national flood insurance program, also on the agenda, registration protecting whistleblowers in the federal government and the defense programs bill. the senate is in recess this week, returning next monday when they will send the nomination of leicester gingrich to be ambassador to the vatican, live on c-span two. coming up live in just under an hour, a discussion about u.s. china relations, until then we will take a look at some of

today's washington journal, marking the 20th anniversary of c-span radio app. >> "washington journal" continues. host: we want to welcome larry o'connor. is this your first time on c-span radio? guest: yes. you came down and broadcast my show simulcast. it -- host: you were going after the nobel peace prize significantly. guest: i was at i think it .umped the shark he shook hands with an israeli without actually -- he did not actually stop the killing. the international campaign to abolish nuclear weapons, there

were nuclear weapons in one of the biggest threats we have is north korea around developing nuclear weapons. the development of nuclear ,eapons in the hands of people it is actually been a cause for peace in the world. i know that is counterintuitive. yes, there is the nuclear threat, but look at the lives that were lost in the 20th century before the nuclear bomb. never saw that kind of conflict after that. of they this because nuclear bomb but just an interesting observation and my listeners enjoy it as well. host: we have heard from our viewers and listeners this morning from senator bob corker. comments on his new york times interview. host:he said the president could us to world war iii. he talked about adult day care. someone was off duty yesterday, i am paraphrasing. where do you put this story? like so many other

things, it was a great story for beltway journalists. a major segment on cable news goes by that your typical average american is watching, they look at and listen to it and decide what has this got do with my life? decided he would not run for reelection and i said on the air, get ready, this is what will be.e rest you can never get in trouble in washington dc by being a republican who criticizes donald trump. they're the most prized possession for cable news and journalists. if you are a republican, you hold elected office and you go an of your way to be outspoken critic of donald trump, you get invited to parties. i am not saying he is taking his positions based on the desire for attention. this could very well be where he sits an outspoken and his grounded valud principles guide him.

but let's not forget this man wanted to be the secretary of state to the same man. is he very different than who we saw a running for president? i am not sure. runs through the whole process and supported the president in the campaign. inside theooks like beltway politics. looks like a man auditioning for some spot on cable news after his time in the senate, or as a high valued lobbyist in washington dc where he can triangulate and is willing to criticize republican president. host: we are coming to you from the c-span studio and or we're celebrating 20 years. guest: congratulations. that is fantastic. host: brian lam began his career on the radio and always wanted to own a radio station and now we are coast to coast and streaming on the web. we will get to your calls in a moment. guest: your studio is nicer than

mine. commercial radio, we broadcast from basically -- no commercial breaks on c-span or c-span radio app how do you approach your program? guest: we look at what america and our community are talking about. butow it may seem strange people in washington are not always focused on what is going on in the white house and what is going on in capitol hill. like anyone else in the country, they have a mortgage and kids going to school. a lot of things are going on in our community in washington that rises to the level of having a significant interviewer conversation with listeners on the program and we try to look at the entire swath of topics people are talking about. when people start lining up guests for the show, we are looking at the new cycle and we will say, let's try to get this person or that person to talk about that topic.

by the time we get to 1:00, the whole news cycle has -- because of a news event or a tweet or what have you. we sometimes make changes during the program. i am on from 3:00 to 6:00. these days between 5:00 and 6:00, a tweet and an announcement at a firing changes everything. oftenwe know that all too p or we are competing a little bit with you but we hope you tune in as well. we are glad to have larry .'connor i have to ask about your background. how did you go from the theater on broadway to breitbart to being a radio talk show host? guest: a typical progression. isn't that similar to your background? no. i always love theater, in high school, it was always my passion . i went to new york, worked for the schumer organization, the largest real estate and producing company in that city.

i worked behind the scenes and management production. general being the manager in los angeles. through my career, i was always right of center. setse theater business, it you apart. most of my friends would speak openly about politics and talk about them through the 1990's. i think i gained the ability to talk about politics and hold my own was still remain friends with people. i think that age as me and talk radio. i often have people on my show who disagree with me. just be conservative conservative conservative. becausesition happened breitbart started a website called big hollywood where he focused on, this was the beginning of what we now know as breitbart news, but at the beginning, he started various theites, big hollywood was first. he wanted people in the entertainment business who were to the right of center to write

for him p or i reached out and told him i was in theater and he immediately responded to me and asked me to start writing for him p or within a year, i was an editor for him. i focused on breitbart tv, the video site. after his said f, i said -- stayed with the country -- the company and ended up going my own way, and leaving the company and starting a radio career here in washington. to radio through breitbart, i started streaming a nightly radio program on the internet. miracle for anyone's career. our guest is larry o'conner from wmal. e are approaching the top of

the hour. we are wcfpm. are streamed on the web. check out our free c-span radio ap p. app?u have the guest: i don't, but i'll have download it for me. keith, democrat's line from chicago. good morning. caller: oh, larry o'conner -- keith. hi, caller: from breitbart and media-ite. congratulations on making it to c-span. for sunlight.l legitimize ed to breitbart. it is not a news organization. .t is not legitimate larry, please comment on the buzz feed story that broke last week, it was momentous and i

to get your take. mainstream i nationalism white superiority. host: superiority. host: thanks, keith. guest: thanks, keith, thanks for watching and listening. i work for media-ite, right now, contributing editor there. story, all the events and e-mails, exchanges bannon, that happened after my tenure there. to say most fair of us who started with andrew breitbart, we wish that website we know that se andrew had a vision of making a and i nce in had country think that site has done that. i certainly can't speak to something that happened there had already left. host: keith again from florida, morning. caller: yes, i'd like to ask a that on, what was it obama, president obama did when the nobel prize when he

received it? hardly t been in office any time at all, could you he do to me what did obtain that award? ost: keith, were you listening on friday? we were talking about that. guest: part of my point, as well. nobel prize transitioned to this award for having great and for holding all virtues people in europe think are fantastic. what barack obama achieved. afterhe became president, it was headline, but more innocent civilians were killed via remote control, drone ark tack, under president obama than any other before him, whether was peaceful act or not, it is up for the nobel prize to reassess. goes along the lines of, let's give award to somebody for promoting peace because they gave good speeches or have good

intentions. you want to award somebody for promoting peace, where are peace prizes for american generals and american leaders over the last 12 years who have and thee to bring peace incredible opportunities for the women of afghanistan? ook how the women of afghanistan were treated under american n before the troops and ally necessary that area liberated them. that brought more peace to region and more opportunities for the women of afghanistan icam did for removing nuclear weapons from our world. full-time ave seven employees, two part-time and a number of great interns that all of this together. c-span radio public affairs and at n, on our website c-span.org. that is the next caller from decatur, georgia, on the line for democrats. caller: how you doing? good morning. i watch c-span, i have a

question. -- out of school and teaching kids about the political ideas and also ethics religion because how can ou put somebody ethically in the white house who -- females nd same time turn around and hold a bible up. there are a lot of questions because i'm an x-vietnam vet, i lived in segregation 21 years, why can't discussion ace started in america -- host: thank you, we'll get a response. larry o'conner. guest: big issue. at conservatives recognize this point days of having virtuous individuals like george in the oval tting office, even though he never sat white house ffice, wasn't built yet, has gone by side.ste supporters of bill clinton able to s years were

compartmentalize its behavior church after the lewisnky situation. behave one way and we care about policies they put forth and sadly, i think that was learned. do i wish the president of the united states was more of a upstanding individual that my children can look up to after?del their lives absolutely. that ship has saild and we have to deal with the real world and and we werevote for taught and frankly i think we've learned that is not what people anymore. host: i will ask a generational question. humor of johnny carson, is it different with fallon and -- guest: very different. comedy is.where the

i've been lectured to by those uys so much lately, jimmy fallon a little less. you saw the cry fest over the stafferson and with miley cyrus signing thank not otes to her, it's entertaining from my perspective, maybe it is a thing.ional i think johnny carson, i couldn't tell you where he stood politically, he made jokes, but didn't use plat torm to lecture to the american people what we thinking or how we should be voting. i don't think it is because he political. he had great respect for the job viewers.d some are republicans and some are democrats, some like reagan, mondale.e i have an idea, i'm here to tell your roughet you end day here in america with the things going on with a laugh and make up ment and you your minds because i respect you so much, i think you can ctually make the decision for

yourself. jimmy kimmel doesn't have that espect for his audience, that is not what i pick up. if you vote the wrong way, because i vote the wrong way, kimmel wouldn't watch me. why would i tune in and watch that. host: stephen colbert is number vantly use he is fer anti-trump. guest: that might be a reason. i think they split up the with so many late hows, stephen colbert had a real niche opportunity to be able to capitalize on the audience, i suppose. listen fthey can do it in a funny way, people will tune in laugh. i think for a lot of viewers and people who feel like hollywood entertainment outlets are out of touch with believe, what frustrates them and me, no one person sitting in the writer's are about toat you say will be offensive to a lot of people. lot of people aren't bad

people and believe this and think this, why do we want to offend those people? answer is, they don't care. ost: is alec baldwin funny impersonating donald trump? guest: he was funny on "30 rock," portrayed this meglo-meniachal ndustry, they meant that character to be the show and he nded up being incredibly likely. bunker phenomena. host: we are talking to larry 'conner, we are coming to you from the c-span radio studio, elebrating 20 years on the air today. studio.paalatial c-span eautiful multi million dollar espresso machine. i'm kiding that is npr, they get government funding. to shirl e going

nedayton, ohio. i can't respond to that. hi, shirley. host: go ahead, shirley. like to es, i would make a comment. i am thankful i have c-span. but i get c cable, c-span. i appreciate your listening to sides, but it doesn't matter to me, who is on, republican or democrat, says, what we s need is better schools, what we need is lower taxes, what we is a better government, what we need is a better resident, the thing is, i was taught in school and i am 78 years old, what i was taught in not what you, it's know that does you the good, it's what you do with what you know. all those politicians know the right thing to do, but how many standing up and doing it? what they promise, i know what you need, i know what you need, but what have they done about it? listen to c-span, i

and hearings and hear what they say on there and they don't each vote for what they believe in. host: shirley, we'll get a response. thank you. shirley is voicing is very much an example of why donald trump struck a cord last and why so many journalists in washington, d.c. still kind it.don't get you heard a lot of pundits to said donald trump doesn't have a iowa or new hampshire, but doesn't get a chance to win the republican omination and certainly won't win the white house. after the election, they said, i guess we got that one wrong. know what they got wrong. they think they got the interpretation of the polls understanding ot of the ground game for the two campaigns wrong. really got wrong is that for years now, for years, perot, ars, back to ross i would argue, there is a large segment of the american populous

who feel like washington, d.c. is oblivious to what they want about and ey care feel like there has been a lot of money spent on politics and not a lot to show for it. i think that was manifest in the vote.d trump host: from georgia, carolyn is next with larry o'conner of wmal. good morning. i tend to not and vote either party. in ing based on what i see characteristics of the president. vote in local because i move around quite a bit. i think to say that you're not being very fair about the dent obama's getting peace prize. i think he is virtuous and he's be.wn himself to he's shown himself to have moral character, i think that is incredible that you would lessen that award for him because

during the eight years he was president, we didn't have ll these situations popping up in the news. we didn't have children showing fraud.mitting we didn't have his kids in the a cabinete serving in position, although they were too peopleand we didn't have quitting, resigning, being fired either. i think that we are seeing a presidency that was stolen and ll the literature and all coverage that rachel maddox, and msnbc, and apan and number of shows and the his number.l have host: thank you, carolyn. guest: thank you, carolyn, and you for your service. arolyn may be conflating two different subjects we were discussing. we were discuss thanksgiving

and who we have in the oval office now, comparing to the clinton presidency. i wasn't suggesting barack obama or upstanding s man, i don't have enough information, i haven't seen otherwise. whether he was worthy of winning a nobel peace based on winning speeches and the election. after he won ed the election, he hadn't done anything as president of the yet, that got conflated there. host: roy moore is ahead in the a pre-republican state. if he wins the senate seat you think2, what does that represents to the republican party? trumpism transcends president trump. president trump, for whatever reason, may be a decision with mitch mcconnell at the time, at the senator strange time, who was running against roy moore in the primary.

candidates, moore and strange, were trying to run to much as ide, as possible in the campaign. the trump t get nomination, ended up winning based on running a trump agenda. sent for e message many regions and states in this country, you don't necessarily donald trump to energize trump voters and for establishment, that is something have to deal with. host: larry o'conner, on c-span guest on the radio studio. ohio, democrat's line. guest: hi, tom. caller: hi. it be known in 970, i was a conservative republican. carter democrat. 1993, the first tax -- the tax rats voted in a ncrease during the clinton

presidency that got three votes passed it. democrats, including our former governor, ted strickland got defeated and republicans took over the congress the next year. the next six years with that xtra money democrats provided, they hauled off and balanced the budget with a democrat president. since then, the president says swamps.s to drain the in the last 20 years, doing it numbers, 80, sxakt -- 80 and 45, republicans who tried to ins tax cuts and they did it 2001 and started the spiral the time house has been in control of the the lican conservatives, senate for 80% of the time has been in control of the epublicans conservatives and

the presidency of the united states has been in control of conservatives 45% of the time. to know, your guess, do you think the ones who s are the need to have the swamps drained office and 53 of in with the social democrats who 50 years, in 1980, we were number one in ages, we were number one in living standards and 90% of the emocrats at that time, walter mondale called themselves like bernie at, sanders. guest: there are a lot of trump oters and donald trump who would agree, yeah, when the swamp gets drained, a lot of republicans should go down the with them. i think we've seen that play out. the way the debate over tax going forward is will be interesting because the caller is right, it seems like

politicians in this town worried about the deficit are power.s out of the deficit is not that big of a deal. principally, and where i think i get the sense from many callers is that when is blown up, based on a large government spending kind of r some government control of certain portion of our economy and that deficit, that doesn't grow the economy, that economy, you get cular spiral ofcu doom. we have a deficit and the grow y is not going to because we've got that deficit and spending. tax cut, tax cuts historically, you can ask president kennedy back to his cut, when you cut taxes that grows the economy. balloonle, yes, it will the deficit, the growth it will get in the economy will offset that. i agreepretty much what

with. host: senator corker says if it not s the deficit, i will support it. where does that put the tax plan? uest: puts corker with the democrats, which is instructive and important to recognize. tax ure where it puts the cut. interesting to see. mcgaskill and -- by the way, tax reform package, not just a tax cut, simplification process for nd filing taxes, appealing to a lot of americans, if the president its right and has good people on the hill, might be to plug democrats to replace corkers of the world. callers sound different? we are in the dc area. guest: they are talking about a issues, we have callers with long memories and they remember decades before now and i think that is something everyone needs to remember. oldemember back in the good

day when is senator john mccain anted to repeal obama care and build a wall on the texas border, arizona borders. richard in oxnard, california. steve and d morning, larry, i'm really having a lot of fun here with c-span this morning. think this is more entertaining than "saturday night live." say that?do you why r: just, i don't know this morning i've been watching and it's just been kind of funny to some of the callers. you know, i was just looking up notice that d i trump is at 37% right now. at 16%.ress is just wondering which adult day care was cocker talking about, the congress or the i'm not sure? host: richard, thank you for the

tuning in. guest: it's a good point. approval trump's ratings are and historically they aren't great. he gotre pretty bad when elected president, too. they have always been bad, a lot accepting that even though people don't like high esident or give him approval rating, they like him compared to certain alternatives and the alternative our caller up are people in congress, by the way and people in the media. well,pretty unpopular, as i'm not, i'm a talk radio show, people love us. divide, democrat, republican, independent, do you do that? guest: we don't, we open eight lines to cover the greater washington metro area and app dy listening on the around the country. we have a call screener who lets know what people are going to say, if i see someone who will disagree, we mix that up, as well. we don't ask party affiliation. i understand why c-span does it and it is pretty cool.

host: jacksonville, florida, willie, good morning. caller: good morning, gentlemen, you doing? guest: great. caller: you conservatives. ya.l tell donald trump, i'll just give it to you straight. of thethe laughing stock free world. you make excuses for him. never seen anything like this. voted for, i haven't since 1966. i'm 61 years old. seen such incompetence in the white house. let me tell you something else, not -- i'm i'm going to get straight to the point, we're going to take back year and get rid of this clown, okay. everybody.cares

-- guest: if someone doesn't -- i don't defend the president, god knows he's capable of defending himself, wee have seen that hrough the media and social media. i'm not sure what i said was making excuses for the president. this president being incompetent and all those hings, listen, i think i recognize a lot of people will look at this presidency and say, anything like n this. as the caller said, you are right, of course we have never this nything like this, man is a real estate developer ho ended up being a branded identity on national television for reality show and ended up and programs ts and becoming president of the united states without holding lected office without running for office, of course we have never seen that before. i think what gets boring for me,

how the media reacts to presidency is whenever the president does something unorthodox, says something unorthodox, tweets something, on fire 's hair goes saying this is unprecedented. eah, the whole thing is unprecedented. topic at hand,he rather than we've never seen anything like this before. we will all tell our kids we were there and got to see this happen. host: next call, alexandria, virginia, ken is on the air. you listen to larry o'conner on wmal? no.er: i can't say i have, guest: try us out today. caller: i will see if i can. i'll give you but a shot. i appreciate your time. guest: thanks, man. caller: everybody is entitled to their opinion, wonderful thing about america. it is not impressive, it is things he , a lot of says are completely nonbinding putting together this country for what it is.

going back to the peace prize. for barack obama and the condone and conditi condition -- continued haven of violence, he brought a lot of just on hisher, not own behalf as far as leadership people to d, but for be together and actually work together. think it is, i everybody, again, entitled to celebrity lot of apprentice, he is not treating people like constituents, but a fan base. a lot of times when you go to certain places, he caters to them, he is constantly on, like television, you are constantly seasoned break in between right now, i don't think he understands the gravity of dealing with.he's i don't think he's very personable, i think if your son was vying for college or job application and behaviorsdown a lot of

and his mannerisms, you probably college, get the job to everybody entitled to his opinion, i'm not particularly behavior.his host: understood. thank you. guest: god bless america for that. essentially, i hear this a lot about barack obama, he brought many people together, he brought unifying force, yet after eight years of the obama was so cy, our country divided that we ended up electing a president that so disapprove of or feel strongly about and yet, you know, the conditions were there to allow donald trump to become president, how unified were we? divisive during the 2016 campaign than i've seen in the country. did barack obama really unite us a divisive such country at the end of eight years? i didn't see us united. ronald reagan's eight years we were more united than barack obama's eight years.

recognize donald trump brings out passion in people and or le, you either love him hate him, you think he's great or horrible president. knowing all of that, know the people say about him being incompetent and unintelligent,and not grasping what the presidency s and what he's doing and our country being in horrible shape, nowing that for so many people must be devastating to understand this is the man who beat hillary clinton. thederstand the passion and depression, on so many people that so many people feel. that for a out minute, you really do have to put your brain around that and the fact that of all of the things you don't like about him and the people who voted for him, didn't approve of him. he had 45% approval rate presidency, on the they still disliked hillary clinton that much more. no traffic, no weather, no commercial break, how does it

feel? i could get used to it. host: dale, arizona, go ahead, air.re on the caller: good morning, please be atient with me, i have a cold, talking southern ginias robert,med i would like to build my name up ike that guy building his name up is making a lot of money. now your guest, this is my comment. a lot of people get very rich with stock market. him make sure e that he makes an extended remark stock market. percentage of taxes people pay and corporations that don't and make a comparison with hat it was when democrats were in there and they were paying the taxes, they were paying the taxes were very high

and now the whole idea is that were 92% and 79% and now they want to put them down and they still don't want to pay the bills and they want grow the economy, i tell you, i get sick and tired of having grow the economy by inflating everything, make a the percentage of when x base that it was you make reference to the lower tax cuts. -- you never mentioned what the percentage was. let me jump in and give larry o'conner a chance to respond. of t: i didn't follow all that. genius robert, i'm not a doctor, condition, i take wo shots of nyquil in the morning and two shots of dayquil and okay in two days, based on

cold, not what he brought up. wall street has become the enemy people eople, so many run against wall street every year and good politics, i suppose. there was aresting, time when wall street was just corporations orr monopoly men. how many of us have a 401(k) now how many of us have a retirement plan or ira, roth ira to wall onnected street, when we run against wall street or get angry at people wall street and making money on wall street, when political leaders talk down about wall street and suggest that there is a problem there, retirement n our fund. when wall street does well, almost every american is doing well because of it. just because it does well for the economy, we see result necessary our 401(k). is a major deal. and i don't necessarily know if for always a great thing wall street to be the target of political rhetoric, let's not

forget, balancing two choices in 2016, hillary clinton was more candidate of ump wall street bankers. host: last question, vice pence says -- what is your take? i don't understand the argument this was waste of taxpayer dollars f. he stayed the three hour football game, no one would complain, same whether he stayed for the game or not. the n.f.l. has played this erribly from the beginning, they should have done something early last season when this theted with karp, he was on record saying he was protesting because he didn't want to honor country, everyone said this was protesting of police brutality, that is part of it. be the why. the action was understood by kaeperknick, he is on the record saying this is meant because i don't want to honor flag or country. the n.f.l. says he has a right to first amendment right, you

the job toa right on your first amendment free speech. you are in the media, maybe media, you are in the you can't say everything you want to say when you are at work. he n.f.l. should have said, yes, you have free speech outside confines of employment, do this.ing for us, goodyear, next time you support your player's second amendment start bringing firearms to the locker room, then stand on principle with bill of rights. happened to tom brady fourth and fifth amendment right they pickdeflaetgate, and choose which rights to choose. this, it isas blown a major problem for football, i wish they would solve the roblem and the solution is, if you wear a uniform, you honor the men and women who wore the uniform and stand for the anthem. host: i can say this, larry wmal, thank you for stopping by, celebrating 20 radio.f c-span guest: congratulations, come on 20 years.en it is

guest: larry o'conner > "washington journal" continues. host: and welcome to hour four of the bill press program. [laughter] host: just finished three hours on the air, right? hours.two host: thank you for being with us, we appreciate it. from talk about headlines the "new york times," the interview, extraordinary. corker supported donald trump early in 2016, chair of the senate foreign relations committee, back and forth on twitter yesterday and this interview that senator did with new york times and jonathan martin. guest: stunning. don't think, we said so many times we have never seen anything like this in washington before, right? member of the ng president's own party, one of he most respected members of the united states senate, respected around the world, head of the foreign affairs committee whohe united states senate,

actual actually, he said things about lot of sident that a democrats haven't even said, right? it started out when the attacked him and said that corker had begged him for his endorsement, the president said,d to give it, corker i'm going to quit and the president said that his manager enough guts to run for re-election. corker says that is not what to ened, he decided just retire. the president tried to talk him out of changing his mind and no, i'm going to thank you for your offer of ndorsement, i've decided to retire. he totally called the president, basically a liar, then said, too bad the white house has turned adult day care center, where a man who is president of the united states who thinks he running a t.v. reality show, not the presidency. he thinks he is still on the

he accused him of making reckless threats against corker untries which says could lead us to world war iii. never seen a war on words like this ever between any senator the united ident of states. host: critics this morning say rhino, not a republican. guest: i think if you look at corker's record, he's a republican. he is a genuine conservative represented o has tennessee with distinction and i a problem of ve winning re-election, if he run.de to i'm a democrat, i'm not the one republicans advice, but i think republicans had assist from and call anything republican who disagrees with donald trump on rhino.g a i mean, there are more republicans saying, i'm a

donald trump t doesn't represent me or what is country. this host: we'll get to your calls in a moment. 20th anniversary on the air. local an involved in politics, head of california democratic party and appeared on cnn, for a number of years and now your own radio show. yes, i was in the media long before i became active in politics.arty i started in 1980 on television, in los angeles. number one station in the state. there about a year when wally sherwood, who is kabc radio,ector for called me and said, hey, we'd like to have you come over and guest appearances or on talk radio shows. i had never thought about doing

talk radio. i did and liked it and soon got my own radio show. probably the last 30 years or so, i've been doing and television at the same time. sometimes the same show, but on day.ame i love doing radio and t.v. host: how can people listen to the radio? guest: bill press show.com. ur show comes out of washington, d.c., two hours every day 7 to 9 a.m. east coast time. you can listen live or go to the podcast and they can listen to show any time during the day or any part of the show and they can also watch it on directv, free speech t.v. simull -- simulcast on

speech t.v. host: go to indiana, you are up first with bill press, line for independents, good morning. caller: hello. host: hi. yeah, no, i'm in michigan. host: go ahead, i'm sorry. caller: that's okay. steve, you are one of my favorites and that new guy, two got, jeff guys you fella, john?r host: john, yes. caller: i can't believe how on.ck they caught greta, she was a little bumpy, but she's caught on. ahead.o we all try to do our very best. we thank you. question.u all do, no but anyhow, bill, how are you, brother? guest: good, good to talk to you. what's up? aller: well, i just want to, i got to put a plug in. c-span, you are the second best network, sorry. free speech t.v., there's no know, restriction,

and i'm telling you, brother, times.in dark you know what i hope happens? out whenre people turn refuse to call him president, he didn't get the popular vote. george w. didn't get the popular vote, how does that work? outst hope more people turn when he's taking the perp walk nd i hope the washington or capital police treat him the way police to treat everybody else when they're car, i hope n the they smash his pumpkin head into the door and i hope more people to watch him take that perp walk than showed up for his inauguration. host: tim, i'll stop you there. thanks for the call from michigan. we'll get a response. guest: um, i will refrain from donald trump o

with personal insults, but i ill say tim's first point, i in k it is troubling that this new century, we've had two presidents take office without popular vote. and i think that should be a lesson to all americans to take at the electoral college, hether it still fits our day and our time, i don't think it does. i think it is time to get rid of seems to me whether republican or democrat, the candidate that gets the most should win the election. host: would that not change -- most : if you get the vote, win the election. host: one principle, bill press, forced to are campaign in states they wouldn't otherwise campaign in new or ohio theylaware would campaign in, texas, florida, you know, pennsylvania, york, california, where the votes are. would well, i think that

be getting rid of the electoral college is not the only answer, number one answer, but also i support it, that ystem, i think the primary system today, totally out of whack, it is not representative at all. should iowa and new hampshire be the first two states? the united epresent states, either. the answer, right? not more iowa the answer to e, that is regional, presidential shift, s that would maybe southeast primary, the first year and northwest the year and move it around that way. electoral college, get rid of it. willie in kent, washington, republican line. go ahead, please. good morning. hi. y comment is i'm a black man and i just taken aback by all going on in regard to excuse resident trump,

me. he situation has -- the media in particular, the television, s, we can't govern the country through the television set, through the media. never left ts have theeorge bush declare, when wall fell down and soviet union apart, the communists, that wasn't the end of still here they are and still coming here. you can tell by what is going on on television. haven't watched a prime time television show in 25 years, nothing on. e can't govern on 30-minute programs, cnn is just one long show. from , i watched you guys the beginning, mr. kenton, i he hasn't s name,

been there, but -- host: we got you, he's since watching, d probably he lives in kentucky. caller: i appreciate the way he business.is you do a good job, steve, greta not complaini complaining. even c-span, when newt gingrich of republicans took control congress, c-span story changed, at ped having two guests on the same time, different just, there is no play going back and forth. there is one guest, two guests i can recall, martin steel, he last two guests i can remember going back and forth. c-span we still do it, we try to mix it up. larry o'conner first and bill press next. we have balance. we want to give you more chance in sometimes with two guests, it is more back and fire. like cross guest: like cross fire. host: you want to respond,

though? first of all, i totally agree c-span does incredible job brian and all you the rest, brian lamb. ut i disagree, i think there re many, are many, many fine choices in the media today. it depends what flavor ice cream you like. you can watch fox and get one the r, watch msnbc in evening, not necessarily all day long and you get another flavor, conservative flavor in the morning with a mix, i'd ay in the morning with morning joe. and c-span kind of right down the middle. network to still watch abc and i think cbs, network news is good source of information. newshour, i think there are a lot of very good choices out there in print media and electronic media today. radio.ere is talk

vice i asked about president mike pence yesterday. guest: he cost $200,000 knowing ahead of time that this is the president mike pence 49ers, for god's sake, of course a ebody is going to take knee. he knew that, he went to the game, prepared to walk out. press release written before he walked out, sure to were told, be watch, pay attention during the national anthem, something is happen, total political stunt. e flew from las vegas to indianapolis for five minutes and flew to los angeles, cost $200,000. ost: cheryl in los angeles, good morning. caller: good morning and mr. bill press, i'm so glad you have however, i wanted to make three points and i'll be very quick in trying to make them. one, i wanted to talk about the had on person that you

before mr. press and i didn't get to get in on that, i know has been spot on, like baskin ors, when -- like and robin have the different flavors because everyone doesn't ike the same flavor ice cream, you are going to get a variety. however, the person that was was african d he american, i also am african american. and also, i notice he didn't really pay attention and and ime when people get on they just want to talk about their political views, they really get the facts in what they are speaking about, you know. to say is about about the press puerto rico, what is his thoughts on that, i just so hurt that i feel that he president could just drop

the things that the people need -- remote er in row places that is what i want his that.hts on host: thank you. guest: i think the president's to hurricane harvey in texas and federal administration response was spot on. they did an excellent job. i think the response in florida, irma, was right on. in puerto rico, they missed the ball. not prepared, re this idea that oh, god, we it was an island in the middle of the ocean, a big ocean and they couldn't their trucks there, i mean, duh, where have they been, and instead of acknowledging the fact they were low to move, the president attacked the people of puerto rico, blamed them for not paying wall street and suggested if only they paid their bill to wall street, maybe

been so mucht have hurricane damage. think insensitive and i he should admit they blew it. got there.y and i think the resources maybe now, what they need, but it took almost two weeks for what was going on in puerto rico. just one little fact. first weekend, right after the storm hit on thursday, rico, that following weekend, donald trump did -- 22 tweets about the n.f.l., not one single tweet about the people suffering people in puerto rico, to shows you where was.attention host: we are talking with bill press on "washington journal," listening on c-span radio, morning program can be show.com.bill press graduate of niagura university.

you grow up? guest: delaware, little town alled delaware city, delaware, south of wilmington. high school in wilmington, delaware and studied priesthood for a few years and sent as seminary to go niagara ge at university, public university, catholic public university in niagara falls, new york. host: roy from st. louis. then sent to switzerland to the university and got degree degrees.gy, two host: roy, good morning, independent line, st. louis. good morning. steve, great job, i love your show. congratulate c-span for wonderful 20 years on the radio and i watch you pretty all the time. anyway, bill press, you are a and i really i -- you. guest: thank you. aller: i have watched you for

years, yes, i think you brighten up any panel you appear on. kudos to c-span for bringing you on, especially after the last was very irritating. but anyway, i just want to tell ou that this is the first president in my lifetime and i voted every election since mcgovern and i'm a democrat, i have voted republican once or going to specify who. >> and we break away from the end of this record a program to take you live at a look between -- at a look at the relationship between the u.s. and china. this is life from the johns hopkins institute here in washington. this is c-span. >> are transforming at such a pace, long-standing foreign policies and power dynamics are