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we are expecting a huge turnout saturday and sunday. saturday: join booktv and sunday, november 4 and five on cspan2. visit our website at booktv.org. c-span,today on washington journal is next. at 10:00 a.m., the house returns for general speeches. up legislativeg business at noon eastern looking at a boat about sections against a rant -- looking at ahezbollah. in an hour, utah congressman chris stewart on the u.s. military operations in niger, and the house intelligence committee decision to revoke deals made during the obama administration. any: 30, representative paul tonko on the opioid epidemic and president trump's expected
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announcement to formally declare the crisis in national emergency. later, philip chino and -- philip shenon and the release of documents related to the assassination of credit -- of president john f. kennedy. >> silence give equal complicity. i have children and grandchildren to answer to, and so, mr. president, i will not be complicit or silent. ♪ arizona republican jeff flake used the speech to announce his retirement. senator tothe only speak out against president trump. bob corker also plans to resign when after the president yesterday. more on the speeches yesterday. we want your thoughts about that and what it says about the current state of washington, d.c.
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republicans, call (202) 748-8001 , democrats, call (202) 748-8000 . call (202)s, 748-8002. our honor's -- post on twitter page. twitter.com/cspanwj. senator flake's 18 minute speech most scathinghe criticism of trump today. he spoke with bewildering sadness. speech can be available for you to view at c-span.org. here's a portion of it from yesterday. [video clip] flake: a new undesirable order, that phrase being the new normal. adjust to the
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present course of our national dialogue with the tone set at the top. we must never regard as normal the regular and casual undermining of our democratic norms and ideals. we must never meekly accept the daily sundering of our country. the personal attacks, threats against principles, freedoms, and institutions. the flagrant disregard for truth and decency. provocations most often for the fattiest -- pettyest reasons. not having to do with the fortunes the people we been elected to serve. none of these appalling features of our current politics should ever be regarded as normal. ourselves to allow lapse into thinking that that is just the way things are now. if we simply become inured to this condition, thinking it is
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just politics as usual, then heaven help us. consequencesof the and without consideration of the rules of what is politically safe or palatable, we must stop pretending that the degradation of our politics and the conduct of seminar executive branch are normal. they are not normal. reckless, outrageous, and undignified behavior has become excused and countenanced as telling it like it is, when it is actually just reckless, outrageous, and undignified. when such savior emanates from the top of our government, it is something else. it is dangerous to a democracy. host: you can watch the whole speech at c-span.org. not the only senator speaking out against president trump. bob corker, who had been exchanging sharp exchanges with
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the president over the last few days via twitter and yesterday in an interview on nbc news. thoughts on the speeches that were made yesterday and the statements that were made yesterday. what you think about what it says about the current tone in washington. republicans, call (202) 748-8001 , democrats, call (202) 748-8000 . independents, call (202) 748-8002. this is the senior senate staff writer. good morning. guest: good morning. host: how does this play out among the president supporters and detractors? obviously,e was decidedly to camp's -- two camps, republican senators and democrat attenders. is one of the people in the senate who has white respect on both sides of the
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aisle, even if his positions are generally too conservative to ever agree with democrats on most matters, with a large exception probably being immigration. there.s the reception but outside, what you had was the groups that were -- that are associated with steve bannon, the former white house adviser, who is gone back to breitbart news, and others who are basically celebrating. there were people saying in so many words that basically the band wing of the republican party has won again, because flake and now sees going to retire after corker, who has been likewise critical announced he was going to retire. and they managed to defeat luther strange in the republican
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primary for jeff sessions seat. there are groups planning victories, but the general sentiment on the hill is people are not going to be too pleased to see flake go. host: senator flake and in critical of the president during the campaign and as president. as far as the announcement, was this respect -- was this expected? maybe the short answer is eventually. that flake had been saying he was still running , and whenever he would be asked by reporters, his response was that he was raising money and that he was certainly still running. but there were concerns that were coming about his poll numbers and the way that they had plummeted in terms of approval among republicans in arizona.
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aere was going to probably be point, maybe early next year if with her would have needed to be some real conversation about whether flake would needed to be replaced on the ballot. to avoid the possibility of kelly ward winning the republican primary, which republicans generally view is unelectable candidate. host: the senate wants to work on tax reform. other issues including a budget and things of that nature. think this changes the dynamic of the senate and its ability to work on these major issues done? guest: i don't see this really meeting all that much in terms of tax reform. is is sortor flake of on the partisan pendulum --
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flake is going to be someone who is going to be inclined to support just about any tax cuts will probably agree with the more conservative budget scoring of the tax cuts, in terms of visual -- eventual economic growth. i think what your viewers should be looking out for is whether flake and maybe some others start voting against or be harder on executive and judicial branch nominees, who have sort of ties to the trunk organization -- the trump organization or ties to the president's family, or to close to the trump world itself. i'm wondering if lake and others might decide that needs to come to an end. host: one of those people making it difficult include senator
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corker, who had sharp words for the president yesterday. he had several tweets leading up to the present visiting capitol hill. guest: i would probably put in people --amp of basically the way the mathworks, with their only being 52 republican senators -- if lake , corker, lisae murkowski in alaska and collins in maine, if the five of them decide they want to do something -- again, they are not ideologically lined up on policy all the time. if the five of them decide they want to stop something they believe trump is doing this over the top, they can do that. they have the votes to do that themselves. liszewski, thank you.
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again to the phone calls from you, viewer. they will be on the screen talking about not only the speech and criticisms from senator flake, but senator corker as well. robert and south carolina, democrats line, your first. go ahead. caller: the question i have to seems to beor flake well taken. the american public and senators feel that donald trump has done , outrageously nationwide. today not moved to have him impeached for something? that's my question. ist: republican line, paul up next in pittsburgh, pennsylvania. caller: good morning. by some ofprised
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these comments that were made by senator flake and sen. corker: i think when you have a president that is populist, and that's non-politician a , i think you can expect some of these comments. that doesn't surprise me. i believe both men are decent senators and i think they will put their constituents and their when it comes to voting on the issues such as tax cuts for health care. they are both going to be in the senate for the remainder of this congress. i think there is equal to survey the democrat party, because you have a number of young democrats who are critical of the leadership that is too old and too white. you have senator feinstein was running for reelection in california and she can get the support of young democrats there. -- she can't get the support of young democrats there.
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there's always going to be changed. host: did you find years of agreement senator flake? caller: some of it. i think there is legitimate chrysostom. this president is unlike any president we've ever had. he shoots from the hip, he relies on his tweets. part of the reason for that is against practically zero support from the liberal media. it's not there. as his way of getting the message out. coarseness is a number of aspects of our society. host: that's paul in pittsburgh. twitter, the comment this morning about the senators speech saying i loved it, which -- i wish the rest of the gop wasn't complicit. if you go to breitbart's front , here's the headline --
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establishment republicans fall like dominoes, luther strange, bob corker, jeff flake, gone. let's go to tony in connecticut on the independent line. caller: good morning, c-span. , but i agree with the senators and the reason why i agree with them is because what mr. corker started out that heesterday was should let them write the bill and then they should comment on the bill and the next thing you know, he was getting attacked. that's not the way you run the senate. everybody's always talking about the president might lose his rights. what about the senate's right? the senate is a different body. they have 100 senators and each one of those senators as just as much power as the president. --t's what our constitution was written.
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here, he justight wants to go together. these other republican senators need to step up in criticizing and telling what he's doing wrong so he can do the right thing. host: vivian in fredericksburg, virginia, democrats line. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i don't know what it says about us as a country, because we are looking bad. what has trump done? he hasn't done anything but lie. and c-span, went you do a series on what has he done? , his and his family's business is done overseas. these on fox news talking about how he's a champion. why doesn't he start with their products? why don't you bring them back?
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and that comment about the liberal media, why are they liberal, because they will not spew his lies? he lies daily, his staff lies daily. they couldn't tell the truth of their life depended on it. fredericksburg, you heard our interview talk about the polling mr. flake was experiencing, this is the new york times saying his private polling has steadily become worse this year intensified by his chrysostom of mr. trump and his firm stand against the president is alienated republican voters but has long dissuadeack record to democrat voters in the statement, to his side. -- host: k in baltimore, maryland.
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caller: i'm thinking your senator flake and corker are so upset about president trump's behavior, he must have been beside themselves when bill clinton and an intern under his desk. i'm wondering why the question today with a thought for today is people calling in not about the fact that hillary clinton and the democratic national committee paid for the false dossier against president trump back when they were running for election. host: we will talk about that later on with the guest from the house intelligence committee. paul in lake como, pennsylvania. independent line. good morning. caller: good morning. me -- can you hear me? host: you are on. caller: i agree with the lady who was on their wholeheartedly. i think that as far as mr.
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corker and mr. flake is concerned, it's their own them re-demsi call , ok? they want to go one way and they want to go another way. they decided they are not good to be able to get voted back in, they're going to get out. but first of all, i was not put here on this earth to judge these people. i'm a christian, and that's the way i believe. host: what did you think about senator flake's comments specifically, particularly when you said about the president? caller: i think he was just off the wall. i now think you should have been saying that stuff. host: how you mean? caller: could i say one thing? would you, c-span, we willing to have a good old southern baptist minister on your program when
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onning to answer questions what's happening in the world today? because of all the signs of the second coming of the lord are in place right now and the main one is wars and rumors of wars. host: ok, will look, think it is very democrats line. caller: good morning. the independent line in the last crap bill is full of clinton. has nothing to do with what we're talking about. how to donald trump get elected in the first place? he doesn't pay tax, he doesn't do his business properly. he knows puerto rico $33 million, which he could've used to help defray some of the cost and give their grid running, and how in the world this man become president? he's a pedophile and everything
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else. host: the thoughts of senator flake and senator corkery yesterday? caller: senator flake and corker has the right intimidations, they have the right ability, and god bless them for having the chutzpah to call for about. nobody else is, nobody else has. do you think they should've stayed in office is that of retiring -- instead of retiring? caller: they don't need to be in office. it's not about election, it's about moral right, ok? and what we need to have before us as leaders of america. host: that's wilma instigators were, florida. the washington post takes a look at the next steps in the announcement from senator flake yesterday, saying the party's organizedts quickly
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campaigns to raise more money than republican incumbents. host: in connecticut, republican line. josh is up next. i think the flake and corker homes. they get in and they don't even care. is exactly what trump voters were voting against. the person has no common sense and is just infuriating. people just don't even think.
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says theuy calls and senator has as much power as the president. obviously immoral on. people not know how this system works? i'm not even concerned. as far as i'm concerned, flake incorporate were out anyways. he quit a job he was going to lose. in your mind, there was no truth to what senators flake or corker was saying about the president yesterday? caller: there's a little truth in what everyone says, but the overarching what he was trying across -- it just doesn't ring true. it's exactly what trump voters are voting for is someone that talks the truth exactly how normal people would say it. is talking how normal people talk and saying what they are thinking. and that's an issue. host: one viewer on twitter or noblething great
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about flake or corker criticizing on the way out and still voting with the gop 95% of the time. joy in florida, independent line. caller: good morning. i think the gentleman who spoke before me as part of the problem. everyone thinks they know more and better than the previous speaker. what we need to be looking at is how we look to the world. president trump seems to have gotten into the white house with one purpose in mind -- to erase obama's existence as a president. that's all he's done. is that give orders erasing everything that obama has done. whether or not it was good or bad. what they need to look at is what is he doing? ,e's dividing the country everyone is so educated and so right, and everyone else is wrong. that's dividing the country.
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everybody, he doesn't have anything good to say about any citizen. even gold star family's. look at the man. privatell running his business. this is the united states of america. people come here not to create a king, and that's what trump wants to be. host: that's joy in florida. 20 minutes or so comments from you about the statements from senator flake yesterday, when it's directed at the president. even agree, disagree or otherwise, republicans, call (202) 748-8001. s, call (202) 748-8002. democrats, call (202) 748-8000. sen. corker: to nbc news and capitol hill. it was -- years part of that dialogue. [video clip]
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>> standing up in front of the american people in stating untruths that everybody knows to be untrue. that he does, which everybody sees through. the dividing of our country, the name-calling, for young people to be watching not only here in our country, but around the the president of the -- you would is think he would aspire to be the president of the united states and act like the president of the united states. the just not going to be the case, apparently. it's up to others who serve in light of capacity try to conduct
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themselves in more becoming a leader. statement corker: a -- senator corker making a statement. leading up to that visit, the senator and president trump exchanging tweets that each other and leading up to that, you can find those on the twitter accounts for both of those people. , we of those statements talk about the statements themselves in the larger issues at play when it comes to going -- to what's going on in washington. diane is next in woodstock, georgia. republican line. caller: good morning. thanks for taking my call. i would just like to say that i respect flake a lot for what he said yesterday. i really agreed with everything he said. i wish he would have been more
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critical, i'm on the opposite end of the spectrum from what his beliefs are. i really respect him for saying what he did say. and hopefully, other republicans will start to come around and realize that supporting this president and pretending that everything is normal just isn't working. host: when you say you wish you were more critical, aside from what he said yesterday, what would you like him to say or address? progressive, as a good grief. you should already have been impeached by now. as for as i'm concerned, a lot of people that have a brain in their heads believe that. this is ridiculous. the right now, the republicans they have the house,
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the senate, and the presidency, and they just don't want to rock the boat. host: you are calling in all republican line. are you not republican? caller: no, i called in on the democrat line. host: i must've seen that wrong. thank you. mark from like jackson, republican. say i: i'm calling in to was very impressed was senator corker and what he had to say. i feel it's unfortunate that he won't be running for reelection. think that he is the very type of candidate that i could support for national office. host: what is it about senator corker and his statements the
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you agree with most? caller: i just think the tone of the statements were excellent. very measured, very logical and thoughtful. certainly were reasonable statements. addition, i think that his emphasis on policies is also very correct. thesencern about out-of-control national debt is something that everyone of every party needs to be concerned with. mark in texas calling in. inn your next from pam deerfield beach. caller: in my opinion, this is a good thing for trump. mccainn is to resign and should leave. we need someone who will work along with trump to get america back on track again.
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i say hooray for justice. it's all coming up about hillary clinton's recklessness and her dishonesty. quit twisting trumps words. thank you and have a great day. been taking your thoughts on the statements from the centers yesterday and we will continue to do that and show you some other news as well. several people referring to hillary clinton. her name coming up several times in the course of yesterday's news. this is "washington post," taking a look at the russian dossier. the headline, clinton campaign and d&c paid for research that led to that. lawyer said they hired chris steele, a former british intelligence officer with ties to the fbi and the intelligence community. perkins cole retained the company in april 2016 on behalf of the clinton campaign and the dnc, before that agreements,
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fusion gps research into trump was funded by an unknown republican client. october,he end of fusion gps gave research documents to elias. that's from "washington post." "new york times," highlighting and issues ofans hillary clinton. it's the first of two back-to-back announcements, top public and the house judiciary and oversight committees said they were formally examined the president's justice department investigation of mrs. clinton's emails and less than hour later, republicans from the intelligence oversight committee said they were opening a separate inquiry into the measures approval of 2010 agreement and left the russian backed company in control of much of the united states uranium.
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those topics coming up and a member of the house intelligence committee later in this program come to talk about amongst other things, those issue. the president of the united howes sending out tweets moses from his account this morning saying the clinton campaign and the d&c paid for that research that led to the antitrust fake news dossier. the victim years of president. from ventura, california, democrats line. melanie. democrat'm a hard-core and i really appreciate what flake is standing up and doing and what corporate standing up and doing. i have a lot of respect for them. here we go again, blaming hillary clinton once again. i'm ashamed of our government and how low it's gotten. the bar is so low that anybody can cross it. that we could cross over and realize what's really going on this nation -- health
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care, everything. this man is destroying our country. he doesn't believe in god, he doesn't believe in anything but himself. god that he will be impeached. i'm tired of it, the world -- people are tired of it. we just need regular order. host: cheryl from thibodeau, louisiana. republican line. caller: good morning. i would like to make a comment as a republican. that people in the country are very disturbed on the democrat side with trump, and then of course, republicans in support of donald trump. never since andrew jackson has there ever been an attack on a president as you see today. there's so much corruption in d.c., and as far as flake and , -- and corker
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and mccain, they are not adding anything to the process. the reason why they are not rerunning for their offices is flake won't get the campaign funds and the backing they need. so why should you run for office? of course, they're going to go out fighting and i'm not going to say that trump does everything correct this for some the things that he says, but i do think the man has a heart and i do think he does have an intent. i think it's very unfair treatment. listen to the listeners. it's all about soundbites that they hear from the tv. this is what they intend us to do his influence rather than look at the real process of what's really happening. and yes, people as far as immigration is concerned, we need to do something about that.
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the man is trying very hard to protect americans. i know he comes out with some things that i cringe as a republican. host: when senator flake makes those comments and offers those criticisms, you agree or disagree with them? or somewhere in between? caller: somewhere in between. but i support trump and i will support him if he runs again. host: donald trump also sending out several tweets taking a look at senators corcoran flake, saying the reason both of them ispped out and senate races because they had zero chance of being elected. they are so hurt and wounded. the president out of the meeting with republican senators is today outside with blake and corker was a lovefest, standing ovations and great ideas for the united states. that meeting with center of elegance talking about efforts on tax reform. richmond, virginia, stephen,
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democrats line. caller: good morning. agree with corcoran flake. all republicans speak up and talk about all trump, because he is a pedophile liar. withnybody who disagrees him and tells the truth, he will try to dog him. i'm don't care if you are a woman or a man or if you are republican or democrat, or if you were a war hero or if you are a gold star family oracle star person. soldier, warrior. donald trump is a pitiful president and we need more to speak about him. can i say something about the dossier? host: quickly. caller: the dossier was started by the republicans. and then, once donald trump
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became the campaign for the republicans -- host: we highlighted that in the story we just read. mechanicsburg, pennsylvania. republican line. trump has beennt nothing but honest. he's working hard. from over the wealthiest president we have had ever. but he's also grassroots. he loves this country and he believes in god. i feel god is working in his heart. and he's been nothing but hard-working and sincere. i think it's unfortunate that these two senators said what they said. i would like to see c-span choose several senators there are speaking in favor of trump, and then have a morning talk about the positive of donald trump. they should have been a
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president that was impeached, and it should have been barack hussein obama. hillary is guilty of selling 20% of uranium. inhave a lot of problems this country and trump is trying to handle as many as he can. republicans need to get on board with the grassroots president. host: one of the people speaking out yesterday about the statements made by senator corker, particularly by the president and about his reputation was that a minority leader chuck schumer, democratic senator who talked about that. here's some of his statement from yesterday. [video clip] schumer: he's thoughtful, he is hard-working, he's bipartisan, he has strong believes. president trump would stop --eting and start reading start leading. we've seen no leadership from this president, whether it's on tax reform or health care, whether it's on north korea -- all he does is tweet and make the problem worse.
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americans don't want that. >> [inaudible] senator schumer: i wish the president, instead of finding countless enemies to pick fights with, starts rolling up his sleeves and solving america's problems. plain and simple. look, i said what i believe. his presidency thus far has been a total flop because he spends all his time fighting with so-called enemies and not solving problems. in the pages of "usa today," this under the headline the president must rise above his critics, adding if you are counterpunching against some random detractor who is far less powerful and prominent than you are, it's hard to avoid looking like an arrogant bully. when you are president of united states, everyone is far less powerful and prominent than
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you are. next in cleveland, tennessee. independent line. caller: good morning. i would just like to say hats off to senator john mccain, bob corker, and mr. flake. truthk they've spoken the , unlike others speaking lies. look up a compulsive liar. they have psychological problems. people speak for our country, even if it's one or two a time. we need things done. we need numbers.
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we need to get in contact with her senators and governors. the people of got to know how to do it. thank you. host: hartstown, new york is where susan is on the line for democrats. good morning. caller: good morning, pedro. werel that corcoran flake well spoken and what they said. i think it's unfortunate they are not going to stay in office, because that will make room for more were going to take this that's in a direction not going to be pleasant. a couple of your callers keep invoking god. i believe in god, but i believe in separation of church and state. i also feel of people keep saying let's give him a chance, and it's almost a year now and the chance is up. he had plenty of time to read he doesn't understand when he goes
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on twitter and has these rants, he doesn't represent himself, he doesn't represent his base. he represents all people of this country as our president. and what he says is derogatory and embarrassing. we need people to speak up. the problem is i don't think people who were planning to remain in office are going to have the nerve to speak up against him. it's only the people who are no longer going to continue that seem to be able to do this, which is very sad. host: do you think that's going to change the nature of the senate if more people decide to leave office and they replaced by -- depending on who they are replaced by, do you think more resignations are coming? caller: that's hard to say. i don't know. that would be impossible for me to say. i guess the people feel like they have to speak up against trump, and knowing what the states are like in terms of
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support for his followers, that there may be more resignations. that may be the only way people will be willing to speak up while they are in office and have to work actively with him and get things done. i don't think they're going to be saying anything. host: do you think that because of senators corker and flake that more republicans will be emboldened to speak out against the president? caller: i don't know. i don't think they will unless they are ready to resign. i would like to see someone who is going to stay in office and fight for their position to do so. i just don't know. host: dennis comes to us from louisiana, independent line. dennis, you were next. caller: good morning, pedro. understandople don't -- i don't fall for all his rhetoric these people are speaking out against the president. , it is you got is back and listen to the speech that flake presented yesterday, he was speaking out against the
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party. he wasn't speaking out against the president, per se. he was speaking out against the party. the thing is about the -- whent, what it is is he said what he said about draining the swamp, that's what he meant. he came to drain the swamp. just because chuck schumer says president is the speaking out against people like him because he's not wanting to fall under the regime of the establishment. wonder if he and the other guy, that was with trump, the one he could fully trust in, you know i'm speaking about, i just forget his name for the second. host: do you agree with senators flake incorporate not? -- senators flake and corker or
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not? i'm against what senator orders saying about the president, but if you listen to what flake was saying, he is speaking against the whole republican party. he went up there to not fall under the regime of the establishment of what the republicans are doing. he went up there to make a change. and he can't get the change of the republican party very if these individuals, these certain individuals that want to stand with the president and people of the public is not seeing past that. they are falling under the regime of the establishment of a republican and democrat side. they are wanting to stand with the president because they want to stand for what the people want in this country. if they don't want to be americans, we will see you later. that's what the president come to do. he came to drain the swamp, and all these people who don't want to swim with the president, we will see later. people whof those
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spoke out against senator flake's speech is the person who actively candidates take his place in the senate, kelly ward, former arizona republican state legislator running for jeff flake's seat. steve bannon. she spoke out yesterday, an interview with reporters about senator flake's speech and the larger issues concerning that. here's what she had to say. [video clip] most of the people who use the other resists movement don't disagree with all caps policies. they can't get beyond donald trump the person. this is not about donald trump the person. this is about our country and about securing our border. it's about stopping illegal immigration. it's about repealing obamacare. it's about fixing the tax code. i hope they can get that done by the end of the year. let's hope they keep their noses to the grindstone and get it done. it's about making sure military is strong and veterans are taken care of. all of those things are what
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people are crying out for. people who are resisting donald trump just don't like donald trump or amalek senator flake said, they don't like his tone. i'm not as concerned about his tone as i am about the things that he is doing to keep our country on track. the decrease regulations that we have that have caused the economy to sewer. the dow is up, unemployment is down, food stamps are down. that means the american people are thriving under donald trump, without having a lot of support from the left or the right. host: from arkansas, republican line. this is like, go ahead. caller: yes, i remember when john mccain said they let the , more than he ever could have imagined having followed him in arizona.
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poor old donald was blamed. but they put it in the arkansas gazette. rememberd if anyone that mccain was the one that started the fight, and it reminds me of general sports car, with even one who said dogs don't bark at parts cars. -- parked cars. host: how do you relate both of those statements to the statement made yesterday by the senators? senators -- i was so upset -- i would: turncoats. poor, misguided men who are bitter, like mccain. i'm glad that woman called in. mccain and flake and corker. they are just bitter. i'm so embarrassed for them. i would give my life for
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president and there are many like myself very thanks for letting me comments. host: senators flake and corker on the "washington times," frontpage. taking a look at steve bannon this morning. groups of other prominent grassroots conservative operations say they are on board with steve mann's crusade to oust the entire slate of incumbent republicans. the former white house political strategist is tapping into the same iggy azalea mood have been sensing. they are active in the election, but expect 2018 to be a banner year for ousting republicans. host: mike is next. caller: i feel like we're witnessing one of the biggest brainwashed jobs ever in politics.
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democrat, it's always been a democrat, take over a party and really just watch the party fall apart. corker -- he's mr. tea party. read -- if he can't get reelected, what is this party looking like? i hear republicans talking, but this is mr. tea party we talking about here, and he is speaking truth that others, you have the one guy who said i would like to have the senators who support trump. those guys are only supporting their careers. they feel the same way. they just can't say it. because the party of the republicans is no more. this is the party of the trumps. conservatives that are calling in here today who champion the tea party and try
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to keep obama in line, where are they? where are they with these tax cuts and these massive increases that are coming? where are they? day thety, one republicans of older going to wake up and realize that all their true leaders, all the true people who spoke the truth are going to be discredited and their careers are going to be over. they did that were number of us. they are trying to save face for out-of-control president. they are tarnishing their careers. he's ruined more respectful republicans than any democrat could ever do. host: you think even after the more mightsterday, be emboldened to speak out re-think that won't happen? caller: the thing is going to happen is if there is some kind of poll that shows the moderate republicans, who is really a
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dinosaur now, start to rise up and understand that this man, if his actions are being observed by their children. his actions are being observed by the world. listen to me, i understand where they're coming from. everybody is frustrated with how the democrats do things, how the republicans did things. trump is a response to a bigger issue. but once you have situations where we are dealing with war and dealing with respectable admirals enough to get up and diminish themselves just to cover up an action of a dysfunctional president -- host: we're going to move on. caribou, maine. independent line. go ahead. caller: i like to say i disagree with flake's speech. why would you leave the arena where you are the checks and balance against someone so
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out-of-control president? to me, flakes all the handwriting on the wall of what you are seeing is a bunch of pretext. he did not leave for the reasons he is saying. he left because he knew he was going to get embarrassed in the primary, and that's the reason. why would you leave if you are going to be the one who's going to stand up and speak out against the president in the scene where you are at? should be more like rand paul, who disagrees with the president and will be going up the president, and where there's agreement, you will, long side. you don't leave that position, especially if you think the president is out of control. i think he's an embarrassment. i think is a coward. that's my comments. ohio, republican line. with your next from cheryl. good morning. caller: i'm feeling really good about what president trump is doing. i feel like he is busy
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constantly doing things. the problem is you have too much negativity and emotional opinions from hollywood and all them talking about -- people may not like his style, by feeling we have an american president, which makes it very happy. i don't know where these people were, we have c-span for that. where were you when it was fast and furious? there's an endless array of scandal and obamacare and will these people are be affected by that? if they would just watch it on youtube and listen to these people. this is the truth coming out. nobody wants to hear the truth. if they want talk about trump, to get the truth, the first minute talk about the president haved before that and you a serial killer in hillary. somebody needs to bring up besides one station on tv.
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with all the money we've wasted on this with trump, and it always was hillary and always will be. always has been. host: talking about an event that occurred yesterday that the president was on capitol hill talking to republicans. there was a protester shouting trump is treason as he threw russian flag from within the press stakeout as president trump walked with majority leader mitch mcconnell. host: sterling was arrested and charged with unlawful contact -- conduct. he did not hold any kind of press credential and the president to not respond to questions from reporters as he made his way to the senate republicans weekly policy lunch. coveringcer coming -- the events captured video comment on his twitter feed.
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in trenton, florida. democrat fine. -- democrat line. caller: i agree with the senators and i hope that more of them fall in line and start speaking out more against what's going on here. have aoesn't seem to grasp of any of these issues. everything is so simplified. like health care. he says who will be so complicated? him.one knew, except for he comes up with policies for immigration that can't possibly be enforced or constitutionally acceptable by the courts. time tryingo much to exercise this idea of one-upsmanship with all the tweets and all this kind of stuff. it seems to me all he has perfected is a display of dumbas
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smanship. i don't know where this country is going. host: republican line, sharon. caller: i was embarrassed on both of the senators, and the way they spoke. i can see why trump tweets. it's been told he's only had reviews.f positive and 98 -- 98% negative. host: what were you embarrassed by? they -- they quit. and i'm not a quitter. and they're quitting in the middle. if they were so against strong, they should've stayed in. and represented the people, not themselves. i mean, they were paid to go up there and do a job. host: as far as what they were saying about president, those are things you don't agree with? caller: i know trump comes on
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strong. sometimes he says things i want to say, because of all the negative things they are saying. the mainstream media, never report anything that he is doing. host: such as what? caller: i want to mainstream media watch fox. ask what isa viewer the president's accomplishments, how would you answer the question? -- he: well, he tried don't have his republicans -- i think there's corruption. in the democrat party and the republican party to. host: union, south pennsylvania. this is a lead on the line for democrats. i hope i pronounce your name correctly. i tell you, the democrat most of my life.
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i'm now going to come republican. i see with the democratic party has done. before it was $12 cell phones, hillary was selling our uranium to russia. so onting $100 million the table. what a bunch of crooks. i listened to richard badmouth everybody. he wants to keep up with where barack and hillary were going. trump is doing with this country needs. people want to badmouth him because he's not for government programs to give giving and giving and giving to people. who really don't deserve anything. they should be paying taxes themselves rather than have the government tax summary works for it and is more successful. host: does it surprise you to hear republicans present as the president like you were yesterday -- criticize the
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president like you heard yesterday? caller: those are just people who have sour grapes. that's all. the whole thing is sour grapes. mccain has been there entirely too long. he's defected to the democratic party. and he abandoned trump on the health vote. host: let's hear one more call. walnut code, north carolina. independent line. caller: good morning. people are finally waking up and seeing that the senators are not doing the jobs that people are sending them there to do. have a couple of the democratic party, senators who are rock stars and stuff. they are waking up and finally finding out there doing nothing but making themselves rich and taking bribes and they are not doing what the peoples of them therefore. so they're going to replace them, that's what's happening. and they are just mad because
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flake has seen the road down the road and he's on his way out because he never tried to do nothing to help him. host: that is our last call on this two members of congress. up next, we hear from chris deadly to talk about the ambush in niger. in president trump is expected a the click the opioid crisis national emergency. those conversations are up next when washington journal continues.
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♪ -- his week on q&a >> they were shoving and jostling. their target was charles marie. it intensified. it looks like he was going to fall to the ground. he was a 74 euros man. i grabbed him by the arm. to make sure he did not fall. -- i don't know how many. i was fearful of being separated.
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that is when it turned on me. somebody body slam to me from the other direction. a violent protest on the campus last march following a scheduled lecture by charles murray. >> c-span, where history unfolds daily. a publics created as service by america's cable television companies, brought to you by your cable or satellite provider. >> washington journal continues. host: this is chris stewart of utah, a member of the select committee.
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the events of yesterday, where does this leave the tone of capitol hill? >> and is unfortunate. it is unfortunate. i think it is indicative of the divisive time we find ourselves in. the republican party is divided. democratic party is equally divided. we are seeing these ideas play out. if we can be more respectful to each other, that would go a long way. host: do you think the statements made against the president are valid? guest: some of it is. sometimes the president makes it harder. how many times have we said we wished you would not tweet at 4:00 in the morning? he chooses to communicate in a way that no other president has before.
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no other president has done before. thingring that, the one that is hard to argue, there has ,ot been a visceral opposition and a press that has been so critical of the president in my lifetime. to temper down a little bit would be helpful. host: you serve on the select intelligence committee. we wanted to talk about events in niger in light of the death of those u.s. soldiers. could you tell us what we know today about that operation, and what questions need to be asked? guest: any time we lose soldiers we need to understand why. those of us in congress are wondering about this now. most people would be surprised we have 800 u.s. soldiers in niger. the reason we are there is
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because isis and al qaeda is there. we want to bring stability to that part of the region and not give them a foothold. like they had in other parts of the world. while they are a small group, to counter them. we know the soldiers -- i have a chance to travel around the world. many times you see things that can concern you. intelligence ability to look at the world around us. in sub-saharanrs africa, we express our concern. we don't think they have the eyes and ears they need to protect themselves. that was demonstrated in this event here. they went on a patrol and didn't expect to encounter an enemy force as large as they did. soldiers.
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host: is that an intelligence failure? guest: it certainly indicates that. y were not expecting this ambush they had. if they had been expecting that they would have been able to protect themselves. war is difficult. people die in war. it would be swell if we could guarantee that would not occur. >> we need to say could we protect them better? was there intelligence that would have made them more save? that is where we are. host: will you investigate it formally? guest: i don't think so.
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we will rely on the pentagon. i expect they will. i don't think there was anything nefarious. it is not like there is something to hide. we lose soldiers in combat. i was an air force pilot. i love and one respect more than these young men and women sacrificing everything to serve our country. we have a responsibility to do everything we can to protect them and give them the training they need to complete their missions. i think the pentagon understands that. we will see what they conclude. we will talk about these and other topics with our guest, republican of utah. you can tweet thoughts or
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questions. a story in the washington post talks about what is going on in niger. would you agree? guest: we have a mission there. it is an important mission. let's see what the pentagon says we reevaluatehink the necessity for soldiers being there. one of the things he wanted to talk about is the launching of an investigation by -- concerning russia. could you give us a status report? guest: the first question is what is going on with the russian investigation, the acquisitions of russian collusion. or more broadly, russia's attempt to interfere in the election last year. said they areme i going to try to intervene, to
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mess with their election. there is no question they did. we wanted to answer those questions. how did they interfere? how do we stop them from trying to mess with our elections in the future? there were accusations of collusion between the trump officials. there just isn't any evidence of it now. even democratic colleagues have stopped talking about it because they have not found evidence of that. one of the things we want to understand better is separate from the russian investigation. people tie them together. the secretaryut of state clinton and office, vladimir putin wanted to expand his business dealings with the west, part of that was to expand
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his uranium holdings. the option to purchase uranium assets in the united states, and while those negotiations were taking part, the fbi knew russia was in that organization. notbacks, bribery, they did share that information with the we want toment understand why. that would have been an important consideration. whether that was a good idea. we need to understand why. secretary clinton was asked about her role in it. i want to play what she had to say. >> it is the same baloney they have been peddling for years.
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there has been no credible evidence by anyone. it has been debunked. here is what they are doing. trump and his allies, including fox news are really experts at distraction and i version. the closer the investigation about real russian ties between trump associates and real russians, as we heard jeff sessions admit to in his testimony, the more they want to throw mud on the wall. i am their favorite target. me and president obama. i am not surprised. the real story is how nervous they are about these continuing investigations. this is an investigation of secretary clinton. she may have played a role, but this is not our target. our interest is the fbi and the
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justice department. why they did not share this minister -- information. why did they not know that this was happening? that this very critical junction, not sharing the information, not going forward with the investigation. host: she says there's no credible evidence. you say it is not about her. not sure of what she is responding to. this isn't -- we are not looking to demean secretary clinton. she is not the central focus. it is the fbi and their decision-making. host: this is harry for our guest. obama holder,
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little red -- loretta lynch. it reminds me of the rosenbergs. they got executed for something similar to this. i have to see a full-scale investigation. but they deserve that sentence. there are leakers out there that are not going to talk because of obama's justice department. there is no way he wasn't aware of this. the clintons have been thieves for years. obama is no better. he had to know about this. it needs investigating. rothstein.oeller and host: thank you.
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guest: there is an awful lot in that call. the american people deserve answers to this. for a lot of people it is secretary that clinton had a pivotal role in this. andhusband goes to russia $500,000 to give a speech, were they aware of this? there is a long list of questions. let's find the answers and tell the american people. if this is viewed as being an attack on secretary clinton then we lose credibility and we lose support among the american people. it is the justice department. it is the fbi. they close down this investigation? why was the secretary made aware of it? how did that come into play with her decision-making with her
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husband's involvement? host: will should be called to testify? guest: i think we are too early to make that decision. caller: thank you for taking my call. i would like to get your guest's thoughts on the niger situation. a lot of people are jumping to trump'sons of it being benghazi but i think that is premature. what i am curious to know is, why might it have taken the team out there over an hour to make the call for close air support? and, what happened with the breakdown? isr, both before and during, and after the
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situation. as a service member, i would assume they would still have intelligence surveillance during any type of encounter like that but it seems like at face value, it is almost absent. i was wondering what your thoughts were. guest: there is couple of things in there. it is one of the primary things we have to understand. what assets were available. or they available that morning? for the troops aware of the situation around them. almost an hour did pass before they called for air cover. was air cover available? did we have resources and air power available that could have helped protect the soldiers. , in these types
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of operations you want to have the ability to medevac wounded, to extract soldiers. we don't know whether we had resources to do that. those of the questions we have started asking. they are the questions we need the answers to. i have seen this and read this, people saying this is trumps benghazi. i think that is silliness. this is combat. it is a horrible tragedy. we will lose people in combat. they doesn't mean the president was derelict in some way. this was a pentagon operation. the pentagon is going to have answer questions. a assume this is somehow scandal and there is a cover-up, i don't see it. host: this is worn on the democrats line. caller: how are you doing?
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i did not serve, but my wife served. you guys keepo -- saying we don't need to spentigate niger but you taxpayer money investigating benghazi. i do agree with the lash and butnd i don't blame trump, you need to spend time blaming clinton for what happened in benghazi that basically she had nothing to do with in my opinion. now you say we should not investigating niger. we understand these are wars and things happen that we need to know what happened. with regards to russia, you -- what you're trying to do now, investigating other things i believe is why -- wasting taxpayer money and is a distraction. you need to focus on what really happened there.
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instead you want to investigate things that are going to come out and spend millions of dollars and find out nothing. it is the same clastic distractions you guys do. this is why people hate -- rankinge committee's said this, the gop has this one rule. investigate a clinton. guest: for those calling for an investigation into niger. the pentagon is. we want to understand. protecting our soldiers, given resources they need to be successful. other thing you want to investigate tell me what it might be. i don't see a corollary at all between what happened in benghazi and what happened in niger. please tell us. i have no idea what someone wants me to investigate. russia will once again. we deserve answers.
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we deserve those five national answers. russian intentions, how successful were they, how do we counter them? the primary objective, this is clear, the primary objective was to break down faith in the institution. goal, myas their heavens, they are smiling you are to care. that is clearly what has taken place. let's understand that and reported to the american people. these are partisan issues. the net -- the democrats want us to investigate. i think we should answer all of these questions. let's be thorough and tell the truth and do it as quickly as we can so american people will know. how are you doing? let me asserts some facts. u.s. troops are supporting the
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.rench military the u.s. is using heavy-handed tactics to deter villagers from opening those resources to other nations. they foughtd was back against u.s. soldiers. now it is some sort of problem having propaganda. it was 12 days when the president did not respond. no air support given they were killing villagers who were protecting natural resources. that is number one. they are calling these people terrorists and saying they are isis. region to be in niger. this is preposterous from any military standpoint. host: thank you.
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guest: i just disagree with the caller. there is no question there are isis elements in niger and they are trying to expand influence and power there. there is no question about that. i disagree with the presumption that had we had air assets the purpose would be to kill these villagers for protecting their resources. i think that is an absurd accusation against the american military. we go to extraordinary methods to protect civilians. to protect collateral damage when we have these attacks. they are necessary to protect our soldiers. they are not there to attack villagers. and and al qaeda are there we want to counter them. if we give that an opportunity to establish a foothold, we have
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to deal with that at some point. it is easier to do it earlier. host: senator mccain called for an authorization for military force. what would that look like? guest: i am a lone wolf on that in the senate. i have always advocated for militaryn the use of force. i think it is the responsibility of congress to say we support or don't support these military actions. the majority of congress believes we should support these military actions and should authorize the president to carry these full board, but -- forward. we need to update that so the american people know that congress supports these efforts. host: update, how? guest: it was targeted towards al qaeda. then there was interpretations
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that allow them to expand to isis and other threats. in that.specific we authorize the president to protect american security anyway he deems necessary. someone make it more restrictive. let's give this president the authority he needs to protect national security. for some people it would be. they would wanted to be mourn their row. that is the debate we should have. host: frank in utah is next. we we hear from lisa. han.t: welcome fellow utah caller: i wanted to comment about the, you made about hillary clinton the most
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americans don't want to go after her or the clintons. we just want justice for everybody. want the law to be fair to everyone. we don't want people to get away with stuff. think that is a americansnt that would like that. guest: i want you to know that i agree with you. one of the primary things we , allto do as americans people are treated the same under the law. if we lose that everything else crumbles away. that breaks down the faith in
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what we believe is america. our intentioning, isn't it just to target secretary of state clinton. it is broader than that. accountableld her for that. my concern isn't with the secretary's behavior, it is with the justice department. that should be concerning. if it was just secretary clinton , who concluded long ago that minimum, ethical concerns with this family. targeting the clintons because it is easy, that is not the point. was the justice department ethical? were they professional? thishey try to protect russian company? was the administration interfere with that process?
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that is a more dangerous situation. it is far more broad reaching. those are things we want to concentrate on. host: the committee heard from ohan.el c what were they appearing to find out from them? guest: very broadly, were they aware of any collusion or communications? the same questions we have been asking all of the witnesses. host: did they say they were aware of collusion? guest: if they did, it would have been league. i will go back to my comment, if you think this president is going to be impeached for collusion, you are going to be disappointed. we have no evidence of that at this time. even my democratic colleagues rarely talk about collusion.
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being, there isn't any evidence of it. host: nothing came from those two yesterday. did you learn anything new? guest: i have to be kind of careful because those are closed door sessions. we didn't learn anything that was going to change the investigation in any dramatic way. host: independent line, thank you for calling. go ahead. caller: i have a couple of points. i wanted to know if isis is trying to make any connection with north korea. articlead day lengthy about north korea wanting to detonate a hydrogen bomb 1600 feet above where the satellites are. that they are working on that.
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do you know anything about that? could they possibly do that? guest: two great questions. let me answer them as best i can. would it surprise anyone have we had north korean regimes, one of the most dangerous situation we , he and al qaeda or any other terrorist organization both share a goal of attacking or destroying the u.s.. there a clear how these groups, north korea, a terrorist organization would bring us harm if they could. that is one of our great fears, they would make them available to terrorist groups. anyone would presume that would be something we would be concerned about. the nuclear program is extraordinarily concerning to us.
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when i was a young captain flying the b-1, we were tasked by president clinton to develop plans to attack and destroy north korean nuclear facilities. our policy was we would not allow them to have nuclear weapons. then he held up an agreement and we failed in that. we clearly have failed in that. this president strategy and policy is we won't allow kim jong-un to marry his nuclear program with the icbms calling nuclear tipped missiles. i think the president is right that policy and it is important we not fail in that like we failed in the two previous ones. my only concern is we
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shouldn't be selling nothing to russia if they are not our ally. about north korea as far as wanting to act -- ask the u.s. if we could be a part of selling nuclear weapons. when i actually saw that i said why would we sell nuclear weapons or try to be a part of them when they are at war with us? host: thank you. guest: that would be a terrible idea. proposing we so north korea nuclear weapons? again, that would be preposterous. it certainly would not happen. to votee house is set this week on the senate's version of a budget. how happy are you with that?
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guest: the house version was more conservative than the senate. it is critical for us to take tax reform forward. i haven't spoken to anyone who intends to oppose that. primarily being that is the vehicle that allows us to move forward on tax reform, which is so important for the american people. host: we have our people talk about matters of debt. the senate budget produces those things. are you comfortable moving forward with that? guest: the main reason i ran for the house was because of our spending. i thought we were committing national suicide with this. tax reform allows us to grow our way out of our deficits. just the truth.
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it is the best outcome we are trying to achieve. alot of people say i save hundred dollars in taxes. that is good. we want that to happen. family of average four, making $52,000 a year, this means $4000 in economic growth, and upward pressure on jobs and wages. that is the thing we're trying to achieve. i am so glad we are giving the american people a tax cut. ist economic growth, that the more important outcome. is so important, why it is so important for us to have this legit -- this budget. host: aside from that are there other means you're going to have to employ to get the changes in brackets? what do you have to rely on? guest: i'm not sure i understand
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your question. concerning the debt? host: the tax plans, if i understand correctly, it depends on growth. if that is not achieved what are you going to have to rely on to produce smaller brackets? best: i think it will achieved. that is the bottom line. from 2% to 3%. difference does it make? it is a huge difference. an additional $4000. it means greater revenue to the government because of greater tax activity. does that mean we close our eyes or turn away from the deficit reduction and spending? of course not. that is just the world we live in. we have to concentrate and be focused on carefully spending and having a well thought out conservative budget. we can have this deficit through
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growth. that is better for american families. caller: good morning. i have a question about niger. ofon't know i am skeptical .o many intelligence failures apparently we had them in iraq. now they cost lives. the primaryaring is thatn for the attack was the mission was changed backupam without having originally green berets were not supposed to be going after high targets. they were basically there on a
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social type of meeting. i wanted to know if you knew anything about that. also, i don't understand why trump cap to michael flynn for so many weeks after it was known that he was a nonregistered foreign agent. host: ok. thanks. guest: we put our soldiers in harm's way and we want to do everything we can to protect them. to that. elements did they have situational awareness. did we have the capability to call on air power is necessary? did we have the resources necessary if we needed to evacuate them like you may encounter? those are the things we're focusing on. they may or may not have had a mission change.
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those three foundational elements still are the primary concern and the thing we need to focus on. host: what is the time went on the uranium investigation? guest: my question is hopefully very quickly. we want to the american people to know. some of my colleagues would love for this russian investigation to be the thing we are talking about in the middle of the midterm elections. i think it is nuts it would take that long. it shouldn't take that long. we are near the end of this investigation. when we have reached that point, let's go tell the american people. the uranium investigations are something we're just getting started. i would hope it would be something we would be able to do any matter of months. host: thank you for your time
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this morning. tonkol hear from paul next, talking about president trump's expectation of announcing an opioid crisis in the united states. , what theheen and expected deadline tomorrow of documents concerning the assassination. we will take up those topics when we return. ♪ >> this is lois kim with the texas book testable. we are -- book festival. we will be welcoming over 300 .uthors for 150 panels
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we are expecting a huge turnout of 50,000 on saturday and sunday. the bookook tv from festival in austin. for more information visit our website. this week on q&a -- >> they were shoving and jostling. their target was charles murray. it intensified. it looks like he was going to fall to the ground. do's and human being would do when you see a 74-year-old man on the verge of falling by the man. i grabbed him by the arm. i was afraid. it was large. i was fearful of being left behind.
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when i did that it turned on me. somebody pulled my hair. somebody body slam me. >> allison discusses a protest on the campus following a scheduled lecture by charles murray. washington journal continues. host: this is representative paul tonko from new york and the vice cochair of the addiction treatment and recovery caucus. could you explain the work of the caucus? basically, hearing testimony, drawing information and providing policy and resource advocacy. statistics, the which are very concerning. 64,000 drug overdose deaths last
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year for 2016. that is a 21% increase over the 2015 calendar year. it is the equivalent to nearly gun and traffic deaths, and surpassing the aids crisis of the 1990's. a very disturbing situation. it speaks to the need of sound policy that goes beyond half measures that make us feel good, allowing for unsubstantiated stereotypes to guide us. guest: what policy does the united states currently use? strong stepde a forward with the comprehensive addiction and recovery act, which allows for grants to go into the communities, allows for
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all sorts of activity, education. one of the efforts i worked hard , and a republican member of the house, we were able to include in that the increase of patients per dr. that can be seen. there had been a cap of 100. 275 and that to expanded the disciplines of service providers from doctors to nurse practitioners and physician's assistants, which helped a great deal. i have legislation that will expand that. host: president trump is expected to declare the opioid crisis a national emergency. guest: it engages the health public services act which allows for some restrictions to be undone and allows for resources to be enhanced.
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hand to draw focus to this entire epidemic. additionalovide for legislation that might come to bear. it is that undoing of restrictions. ofre are institutions disease that do not reimburse states for medicaid they are beyond 60 patients. this will allow for those to be utilized and are medicaid reimbursement to be made. i would champion in that epidemic declaration the efforts congressmanng on that would take that legislation of which i spoke and expand on it by adding disciplines like a nest assists and midwives, and
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would make permanent the 275 threshold so that there is certainty in the legislation and would allow for medication assisted treatment. to the crowd from that state, he is here to talk about his work on addiction issues in the opioid crisis overall. if you want asking questions, call. timelinehe expected between if the president announces and when those resources you talked about could be put into play? guest: i would hope there would be a good sense of urgency, that we would see an emergency response. i think it is important for us to address what is that golden
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utilizingwhere we are in accordance with clinicians and doctors in this field the best treatment, whether it is sewn --e or dell track deltrexone. threshold, the treatment side needs to be addressed. one in five individuals out there are struggling with substance use disorder, getting the treatment that he or she requires. thosetatistic, 60% of entering in incarceration situations are bearing a substance use disorder. beis telling us we have to more vigilant. when it comes to dealing with
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the arrests aside we are not going to arrest or incarcerate ourselves through this crisis. 1980, when nearly tripled our arrests and incarcerations. overinterdiction has cost a trillion dollars. the treatment is substantial here in terms of a solution. you: the first call from columns from -- comes from pennsylvania. caller: good morning, congressman. i wondered if you are going to investigate and hold accountable the members of the family and the tremendous wealth of the thaty, the sackler family has a long history of developing and marketing connected with
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purdue pharmaceutical, these opioids, and even valuing. they were geniuses at pushing that stuff into the public. they have billions of dollars as a family, not to mention the wealth of the pharmaceuticals to set up and be accountable, and remediate thend suffering that is now -- not to mention the dollar caused that has taken hold of things. guest: it is a good point. there is a lot of work that is going to be done in terms of prescribing, using opiates for disposing of them, and the development of these, given opiates. i think you will see a lot of work being done because we have seen exponential rise in addiction.
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with thetaken hold beginnings of opiates. i would underscore illness here. we have got to see it as an illness otherwise we will not conquer this growing epidemic that is impacting all demographics of american life. host: michelle is next. she is in minnesota. republican line. caller: good morning. i was wondering, all of a sudden we are hearing it is an epidemic. on under obama? if you could be specific, what was he doing? what were you guys doing over the last eight years? all of a sudden it is like we have this addiction crisis. they don't happen overnight. certainly, a lot of the
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gateway to this addiction began perhaps with sports injuries, a simple procedure like a wisdom tooth being extracted. back pain and back surgery. there was a grasp on the issue. turning into an epidemic level. the legislation was developed in the obama administration. veryresident and his team much saw the need for legislation and resource advocacy. this is an issue that does not know political balance. -- bounds. there are republican and democrats -- this is across the board of concern. when you to keep the vigilance going. it has been addressed be on the current administration,
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addressed over several administrations. when it comes to an epidemic, we need to do everything we can with a bipartisan spirit. host: independent line. caller: thank you for taking my call. my question is, when did diseases become discriminatory? cancer doesn't discriminate. diabetes doesn't discriminate. drug addiction, they discriminate. a person that never takes an opioid could never become addicted. a person that never takes a drink of alcohol could never become addicted. if you choose not to do it you don't become addicted. i've been there, done that. you do it for yourself. that is the only way to get over it. that there is a need for studies of the brain. the brain is the least resource organ of the body. some of the efforts made through
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the terrorist act, along with research dollars need to be funded to their fullest. isn't suggest that there an illness situation here where -- we providing more opportunities to discover how to address the illness of addiction. like any illness i would say it is not discriminatory. this simply say it is a choice, or you have a power or it is a character flaw is not really addressing the issue with the appropriate science related to it. more and more there is indicated lobes of the brain just desire the opiate, or inform us that we shouldn't go there and need to reject the opiate use. learning how to develop that
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response, via science and research will take us a long way towards conquering the disease of addiction. host: the fda chief got the possibility and regulating how they are for scripted in the first -- prescribed in the first place. guest: i think there is a need there. without pointing a finger of blame there was the dispensing of opiates that became a reliance in a way. there wasn't a follow through on what damage might occur. people are getting deliberate about notopiate use, reaching to opiates and making certain that a management is something that is addressed in different spheres. host: is that a regulatory issue? guest: in some ways there might
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be opportunities to regulate the prescription of opiates. there needs to be an all of the above strategy. that assists people who are working their hardest to conquer the illness. host: tech stuff, the republican line. caller: hi. ,he company i work with industrial hemp, non-psychoactive cbd products, we are getting testimonials from people of how much more effective it is for pain relief than opioids. there is also extensive research peoplecbd's are helping that are addicted to opioids get off of those opioids. ontead of spending billions
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whether pharmaceutical companies put out products to get people off of opioids we should have more studies on using industrial hemp products. guest: there will be research done with various efforts to address pain management. we have seen the negatives out there. we know we have an epidemic that needs to be addressed and i believe there will be work on how best to respond to pain. how to manage that pain. host: the next call is from the democrats line. are you a god-fearing man? guest: mi what?
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at?am i wh caller: god-fearing man? ok. let me ask you this. how can the drug companies give me a medicine for 20 years for crohn's disease and then call it a scheduled to drug. it was an opioid the whole time, and then pretend like it never happened, and take the chemical out of it, and then put you back on pain medicine. they have done this to more than one person. i'm not the only one. they have put steroids in our food. they have put all kinds of chemicals in our food. who is to say they don't have opioids in all of our food? regulations,s why
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there is research. there is preventative programming done to make certain we are going forward in the best interest of consumers. are instructive. we will do our best to address a progressive format for the outcomes out there. >> when it comes to the opioid crisis it has to be on a grassroots level. what are they doing on that? guest: i would think public education, perhaps prevention. no one has pushed harder for prevention programs than myself. doave led the efforts to robust funding for substance abuse prevention and treatment
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block grants that have had a tremendous track record. 1.8 billion dollars. with inflatione we would have seen more dollars. have a 20% reduction in the buying power for those grants. that is not responding well enough to a crisis. 83% are working positively, breaking away from alcoholism and alcohol abuse. we should be strong in our efforts to fund them. cutting these programs, cutting
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research is not the answer. drug-freefan of grants that go towards different communities to respond in a more personalized way. what works best in that? programseen successful in that. these are programs that have education,ngly to prevention. isn't all of the above strategy we need to embrace. host: democrats line. caller: hello. it starts at the hospitals. days --re i live, it is i have to tell them no, i don't want that. give me motrin 800. strong medicine.
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my 16-year-old fell off his bike and they wanted to prescribe medicine that was addicted to my son. i said no, he can handle the pain. giving people here in the hospital. they give you a prescription for something strong for something that is addictive. we need to start looking at hospitals, at the doctors that prescribe it very easily. i've never seen anything like it like i see here in key west. guest: we could realize with this epidemic declaration, obviously education. making sure if you get recertified there are these courses. that you are trained about the dangers of opiates. that is important.
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a number of issues that could be addressed. institutions for mental disease, growing the number of beds that are available. making available for those two turn that around in situations of emergency. turning it around with the reach to naloxone. the should be in the catalog of activities that would accompany an epidemic declaration. host: we're about to see a declaration from the president. what does it mean? vacanciesling these is important. we are fighting an epidemic. we need professionals and clinicians to be fully equipped. you need to have vacancies this dreadful
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epidemic. is a weaknessat that should not be acceptable. reduction in buying power for the grants for prevention in treatment, is not the answer, it be more aggressive approach. host: carol in west virginia, line.endent caller: yeah, as far as the epidemic, why hasn't the rug industry been held to the standards as the tobacco industry was? to tobacco industry had settle for a bunch of lawsuits nd everything because they produced an addictive product,
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pharmaceuticals aren't held accountable and it does start with the hospitals, with the doctors, starts with the pharmaceuticals. there are ink responses coming forth, have een for the last couple years and people saw the rise and it unexpectedly. there is a response to the -- putting pressure on drug manufacturers, to the medical consuming nd the public and law enforcement. there is just a multiple of are being s that adjusted and honed to the addiction.fighting host: when it comes to the pecific opioid epidemic, what is interest in helping on this. guest: i think this has bipartisan support. mentioned, we did the carol inserted the d threshold elements of the bill,
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which i think are very important. that was done in coordination indiana shawn from raise standards and make them permanent and grow discipline. we'll see if we get bipartisan support for that. we have to respond quickly here fully and reach to every tool in the kit. host: sue next in maryland, republican line. good morning, sue. caller: good morning and thank tonka, for entative this subject, i really appreciate all of your work. like my main point is to declare this an emergency. kids that have w succumbed to do disease, it is a disease. at least 8 to 10 people have died, they know of, that doesn't count the ones that lived on. all the parents and
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all the people that are affected this horrible, horrible epidemic and thank you for using because that mic, is what it is. guest: it is. caller: i actually want to make point, there is two problems here. there is the war on the street is heroin afentanyl, that is killing majority, there is issue of pain management, the people dealing with chronic pain and i'm so glad they haven't today, a lot nes of times, i hear chronic pain people calling in. sue, thank you very much, sorry about that, want to -- to say, sue offered interesting and pertinent perspective. fentanyl, 50% more lethal as opiate that has hit the streets. the law enforcement community of that, s aware again, the need for a very
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urgent response here. full pledged support of resources. we have to address what is happen nothing our jails. with 5000 or so jails and centers, 40 are providing medicaid assisted reatment to warehouse people and send them out to the same environment is not helping them lives, going to save this is cutting across all new a, save lives, look at approaches, innovative concepts. i have introduced a bill that for medicaid to 30 days before release, because when you are incarcerated, you come out into the environment because of physiological impacts of what level you were at when you ntered, that has been reduced, obviously you're in an incarcerated, regulated setting. you go out into the environment, eight times greater factor you overdose in the first two weeks.
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we need to be sensitive here and about crime. not just tough on crime, but smart about crime and making start this we edicaid opportunity, this treatment so that you go out and have a reasonable chance to your fight continue against this disease. host: from florida, republican joe, go ahead. caller: hello. hey, mr. tonko, i appreciate and availability for a conversation here. life ad a situation in my and like one of the previous callers who said, i am one of pain patients. neuropathytic, i have in most of my extremities. the differences between opioids alternatives are not as great as and i don't think it is correctly.ssed the alternatives to opioid, lyrica, and nd
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nsaids are, and other just as bad or worse for you furthermore, and for someone like me who will need pain management in the future, i will be losing my toes shortly, within the next few years. pain management is not covered under any type of insurance plan. talking $300 to $50 to three-month supply of opioids for pain. i hope representative, that you mind that there are people out here who are having difficulty going the right way getting pain relief and one more comment on that, too, i've had bowel problems lately. are some of the most extreme pain that you'll ever experience in your life and three of my doctors are eathly afraid of losing their practice license in prescribing
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opioids today because they have harassed by the dea. host: joe, thank you. guest: he raises a good point, check into that coverage for pain management. he also reminds me that one of the worst situations that could allowed was this various fort with the iterati iterations, five between the senate and house, the affordable basically those versions of those bills to the l or replace undid pre-existing condition protections, which are important are struggling with addiction. so they would have devastated by of reform, as was the effort to remove from the health benefits package mental health services that cover addiction. it is important to note we could have done tremendous 30% to nd reduction in haveealm of medicaid would
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really taken and hurt this .ommunity severely been llion people have covered by affordable care act, that were not covered for the urposes of their illness with addiction. host: paul tonko, vice co-chair addiction ional treatment and recovery caucus, democrat from new york, thank you for your time. guest: my pleasure, pedro, great with you, let's continue to work away this epidemic. expected ident trump to release documents related to talk 's assassination, with author, philip shenon, who wrote a book talking about that ateful day and what he thinks about the release of these new documents. we'll have that conversation next.
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>> this week on q&a. [chanting] > their target was charles murray. i was a little behind him and and looked nsified like he was going to fall to the ground. he was a 74-year-old man. i did what any decent human a ng would do when you see 74-year-old man on the virge of falling to the ground, i grabbed him by the arm to make sure he i was afraid d of -- this was a large, i don't being w many, fearful of separated from them and being left behind. took his arm and it turned on me. somebody pulled my air, someone ody slammed me from the other direction. >> allison stinger discusss iolent protest on the campus last march, following scheduled lecture by charles murray.
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what allison stanger on q&a. unfoldsan, where history daily. a 1979, c-span was created as public service by america's cable television companies and to you today by your cable or satellite provider. >> "washington journal" continues. host: philip shenon is the "a cruel and shocking act" secret history of the kennedy assassination and here pending bout the release of documents concerning j.f.k.'s assassination. good morning. we expected to see released? guest: we'll see thousands and documents f pages of released online. it is fascinating people around he world will see these documents at the same moment. it is going to be very difficult weeks, if not months, to
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understand what is in there. we understand that these include documents about the assassination that have never been seen by the public before 30,000 other like documents released in the past form with material. we are supposed to see them in full, we have no word from about what he will allow to be released. host: is it your expectation everything comes out? does he have ability to hold something back? guest: only person who has power any of the documents, 1992 law requires document every relating to the assassination, the only person who can block hat is the president and it turns out the president is donald trump right now. he's said he will release these files, unless there is compelling national security information that has to be ithheld and i think there is a frantic effort at the white house this week by the c.i.a. nd f.b.i. to turn and block some of the release. host: what would classify as a concern? security
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guest: in my mind, i guess i speak as historian these days, i should all be released. it should have been released years ago. we've been dealing with theories 54 years, it is time to best an end to this best we can. may be made this week that some of these ocuments were prepared in the 1990s, involve relatively recent enforcement or law operations that might still be ndangered if documents were released. host: national archive, there is a website you can go to see the already exist and then pending documents as they come out. long to get ake so to this point to release all this information, so many years later? is that in tory 1991, oliver stone produced his which produced a million conspiracy theories about the assassination, kicked ruckus, congress the release year required
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of the documents to tap down conspiracy theories. of the law, millions of pages of documents were made public. small hundredful, 3100 documents have been held back and se agents like f.b.i. c.i.a. argue they might endanger national security, but under 25-year deadline and that 25-year deadline to release thursday.g in full is host: the author of "cruel and shocking act," secret history of assassination here to talk about release of the documents. f you want to ask questions, 202-748-8001 for republicans. 02-748-8000 for democrats and independents 202-748-8002. what would you like information would you like to see from the documents? are there unanswered question necessary your mind about what happen? ed guest: there are. the material i'm most interested in involves the secret hidden hapter of the kennedy assassination story, which is it involves mexico city, it that es mysterious trip
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lee harvey oswald, the assassin takes to mexico several weeks the assassination, we and he met with cuban spies russian spies and other people who had at the height of the wanted to ght have see president kennedy dead. oswald two other things, wasn't marxist, he was supporter and c.i.a. hadon oswald under surveillance in there.city while he was in mexico city, he was talking openly about his intention to kill the president. the question in my mind, what did the c.i.a. know in real imes weeks before the assassination that the threat this man posed. alonechange that he acted narrative? guest: he might. t doesn't point to a second gunman, but claims he may have been in contact with people who to do e encouraged him this or help him or help after he was able to carry it out.
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to the question of whether or not there were accessories to the crime, there co-conspirrators in this crime? host: is this material that the understand on could or do have you to have working knowledge of how this works to sense of what is released? guest: no, i fear a lot of whene will be disappointed they pour through this material. this is government officials to other government officials, a lot is c.i.a. code some in pseudonyms, foreign languages, some, based n past experience, will be illegible, even for people with background on this to make sense documents for weeks, months or even years. host: is it possibility the how the consist reveal c.i.a. and f.b.i. performed in this matter when it comes in the to the investigation and how they reacted afterward? guest: absolutely. he narrative of the kennedy assassination has changed dramatically from the idea a pure lone wolf,
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delusional young man whose plot to kill kennedy could never have been foiled. the f.b.i. and c.i.a. argue they didn't have the chance to stop it. be actually ms to oswald told, may have told other do, e what he was going to may have gotten help to do what he was going to do. i think a lot of documents we going to see suggest how much more the f.b.i. and c.i.a. knew about lee harvey oswald assassination. host: first call is from willie in detroit, michigan. you're on with our guest, philip shenon, go ahead. willie. yeah, this is i was -- i never heard about the [indiscernible] -- became president. mean, they had the monster that -- yeah, s [indiscernible], you
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would have the -- host: okay, willie, thanks. guest: without getting into the details, there were a lot of theories conspiracy in the kennedy assassination involving the mob. have had reason to want to see president kennedy the kennedy legislation robert kennedy. lee harvey oswald had ties to organized crime. who killed oswald, jack ruby, had ties to organized crime. theories are out there, i understand where they come from, i haven't seen credible to suggest they are really true. host: let's hear from john in democrat's line.
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caller: yes, hello, how are you? have a copy of the dallas in that ews and article, the gun experts found was supposed to be used by oswald and they named it mauser, these guys were gun experts, they would know the mauser,ce in the german and that is why i believe in the theory, along with 75 other -- 35% of people in the don't believe ho oswald acted alone. when they find a gun that didn't match with oswald had, they had to change the story. bviously something else is going on here. you can get a copy of the dallas morning news, i'm sure they have copies of that, i'm not making that up, that is here. dorothy killgalin, was for many ng jack ruby
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months and before she was supposed to see him for the last dead in her found apartment. that is another book someone shaw, the d by mark reporter who knew too much. your, want to really get read.is a good book to guest: your caller raises an interesting point about the rifle. useful in is is explaining where conspiracy theories come from. assassination, the dallas district attorney holds a news conference and said a mauser rifle had been found on the sixth floor. sixth le used on the floor was an italian made rifle, i think the n, district attorney, who gave the press conference, acknowledged made a mistake, it was not a mauser. there was a statement to the was one type of rifle and turned out to be another, that is where the
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theories come from, somebody must be covering up something, when that seems to dumb, but honest mistake made by dallas officials at the time. texas, saul, go ahead. caller: good morning, my is, i know there has been a huge controversy for a ong time of why they weren't releasing documents and all that other fun stuff. the u think any of conspiracy just kind of questions about certain shady on during that time of the assassination and want to question of, not to really say do you think all the real, do you are have any example or thinking that it is actually real, some of them? take my question off the air. guest: i think there are a thousand conspiracy theories, can't all be true. but i think there is at least a that lee harvey oswald told other people what he people g to do and that
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offered to help him do what he do, especially help him escape if he was able to carry this out. that i guess qualifys as a conspiracy because the efinition of conspiracy is two people plotting to do wrong and i guess that would be a to piracy, that makes sense me and that leads you back to this tale about mexico city. people are k most aware several weeks before the assassination, lee harvey oswald people who might have wanted to see president kennedy dead. theories you have heard, what is most interesting one you heard about the assassination? lots of interesting theories, everything from castro aliens. the one i find most intriguing people knew ther oswald was going to do this and encouraged him. come we saw war commission out with information concerning learnappened, what did we from the commission work and anything ub stantial to the
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work. -- autopsy photos or x-rays, might was concerned they become public and damage the legacy of kennedy because they were so grizzly. a lot of medical evidence was bumbled by the war commission. paul, paul is in .alifornia, democrat's line caller: i want to say, i don't think oswald did the reason is thatmy when he was, kennedy was shot, thrown backward into his
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ife, from, anybody know anything about gunfire would say that the shot didn't come from grassy knoll from his right. thing, it's been proven oswald could not have hot all the shots fired that day and that is one thing, but declaring thing is a cover-up, the government made it look like he did do it, mess up and the facteports oswald was in russia and going d and said he was to disclose all secrets he knew bout the military and the government let him back in the united states and his wife without any kind of reasoning or that, that just wouldn't happen. i believe oswald did work for and he had extensive records by the f.b.i., so on and my comment.at is thank you. guest: there is a lot there. oswald the idea that
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asn't the gunman in dealy plaza, the scientific, technical tudy over the years, using techniques not available in the 1960s at time of the oswald was n, shows almost certainly the gunman in he plaza, probably the sole gunman. murder of a dallas police officer by the name of j.d. many, many witnesses see that happen, eyewitnesses to the murder of tippit by lee harvey oswald. why would oswald have done that if he wasn't trying to flee ecause he had just killed the president. the other question about oswald, not being able to carry out all at dealey plaza, i would encourage you, if you have dallas, go toe in the texas school book depository, it's been turned seum, you can stand at
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the sixth floor window where have stood, d to look out this window and imagine received marine, who rifle training, shooting @ president's limousine, moving 12 miles an hour, very slowly. i don't know much about guns, i people who do will tell you that would have been an easy shot for a man trained in marine corps and how to use a rifle. host: we are looking at the where does that fall in what happened to j.f.k.? important piece of evidence in every investigation. clock on the a assassination. you can line it up with the, you timing of the various shots and for the war was key piece in how oswald could have gotten off that hit the limousine. host: plano, texas, democrat's line, you are on with the guest,
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morning. caller: good morning, pedro, thank you for c-span radio app. wanted to say that that was a mentionedy, the guest the sixth floor museum, i'm documentslot of these do end up at a museum, i think that is where they belong. mexico city about because i've heard a few not but a few historians, local historian about mexico city. thought the war ren commission, the photo of the man in mexico city didn't look anything like oswald, i'm files the see what f.b.i. has and the c.i.a., and i ope they will go ahead and release those. i've always thought that visit by oswald was debunked, but i'm wrong. uest: well, there are a lot of allegations that oswald never went to mexico city, this was an imposter. lot of theories come from the
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fact that after the assassination, the c.i.a., which monitored the soviet and cuban embassies there with banks surveillance cameras could never come up with a photograph a oswald, they came up with photograph of obviously a very led to t man and this the idea somebody was impersonating oswald in mexico city. thinking about this for several years and going through documents that are declassified, reason to believe the c.i.a. covered up what it knew bout mexico city, wanted to cover up how much it had known bout oswald and his movement around mexico city because it would be a scandal if it was shown the c.i.a. had known a lot even he was maybe talking about killing the president. so, i think the idea there was imposter, i can see where the on the me from, again, basis of this photograph that confused so many people, but sure sounds like oswald was sounds like he may
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have told people he was going to kill the president and that is c.i.a. knew the about it, wanted to hide after the assassination. the mexicanpossible government has information? guest: absolutely. documents a lot of have been held back all these years is because it is going to sharing there has been between the c.i.a. and the mexican government, pecifically the mexican spy agency. i think there are people in the mexican government who know a lot about this and never told story. host: have we heard anything about the kennedy family about documents?e of are they okay with that? guest: i was relieved to see kennedy, grand nephew of kennedy said the family has been disappointed the weren't consulted about release, my understanding is the kennedy family wants to see this material released. i see that jacqueline kennedy, secret service who protected said he e kennedy believed mrs. kennedy wanted this material out on the record. george, 's hear from
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george is in oklahoma, republican line. hi. caller: how you doing? listening.or i've got one thing to say, like question. why, why after 54 years, is at risk?security that don't make no sense, and says ets on t.v. we're keeping this evidence back because of national security. threatened? who in this country is information? this our country, our whole country? we need national security for that? who has an interest in this to keep it squashed? so that would be the question ask people to ask, who has an interest in keeping it squashed? guest: i'm totally with you. i continuing is nonsense this secret after ill 54 years. i think the argument was made or may have been made in the past, people who identified in the documents who were alive in 1963, who are still alive
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might be in some sort of danger if their identities ere exposed, but i think it is more important at this point that the government to do its best to show full transparency assassination because it clearly didn't in the early days. ost: as you understand it, is it the national archive advises president on what to keep and release or other people in play? guest: i think the national archives is there to release if the president decides to. i think the people advising the week, probably director of the c.i.a. and director of the f.b.i. and i making the are argument some documents should not be released. illinois,ert, chicago, independent line. caller: yeah, hi, good morning, c-span. that wanted to say anybody who, if you look at the can see that you before president kennedy's head back, it bends forward slightly, as it is bending slightly, his brain
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matter is coming out toward the front. no one has ever been ble to explain why oswald, in april, tried to assassinate general edwin walker. oswald's own brother, who knew him better than anyone whilelooked into his eyes he was sitting in the dallas cityy jail, i mean, dallas jail and walked away knowing that oswald did it, he acted did it,d he knew why he he wanted notorie ty, that is my you.nt, thank guest: well, i'm glad we returned to this question of the film. i'll tell you, when i first saw the film in the 1990s, it became remember seeing it the first time. it is horrifying and confusing. confusing because when president kennedy is hit in the indeed his oks like head is snapping back and logic ould tell you if a head is
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snapping back it means a shot is being fired from the front, in case, this place known in all eternity as the grassy youl, but i'll tell you, if talk to medical experts, people in law enforcement, they will human bodies do unpredictable things when hit by a bullet hit know, causes the nerves to spasm, fluids in the body and it looks illogical that hit fromould have been a bullet from behind, but people ho know the science say that the fact his head snapped back does not mean the bullet didn't the texas school book depository from the rear. oft: looking at soon-release the j.f.k. assassination documents, our guest, philip us to talk about that, author of "a cruel and shocking act, secret history of assassination," if you want to ask questions for remaining minutes, 202-748-8001 for republicans.
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202-748-8000 for democrats. independents 202-748-8002. what is your take on the book? uest: well, what is the secret of it? >> i set out, my first book was i thought it would be relatively easy to do my second book with the warren i have experience. it turned out the warren -- warren commission investigation, debate about the kennedy assassination is just a morace, there are so many conspiracy theories and i kept iscovering in the course of research, how much evidence had been hidden from the warren commission, specifically by the f.b.i., which were clearly desperate to hide the truth about what they had before the oswald assassination and i kept stumbling on information about involving e chapter mexico city, which may offer secrets still about what 1963.ed in host: republican line, johnny in golden via, arizona.
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caller: hi. grade and e fourth we -- when j.f.k. got shot. and we didn't have counselors, we f counselors back then, had prayer. we prayed in school. came in and ipal and our teacher said, okay, everybody gets to go home, the president has been assassinated, but we're going to pray. home o. that went day, we had gotten our first magnavox, stereo and the first thing i saw on the color was blood, blood and if you look at that car and you slow it that the will see shoots urns around and
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president kennedy in the head. bombsed where they blasted above the ground, so i've lived where rld all my life, i've known people want to kill good and j.f.k. was good. have been 10 years old and i didn't know anything about the ics, but i know kennedy's are good people and this ly reason that information cannot get out is oil.se it has to do with host: okay. thanks. guest: well, you know, i think makes clear just how traumatic this was for so many americans. not quite old enough to remember this, i'll tell you, as travel around the country talking about the book, people, as your caller can, as well, can remember exactly where they were, they remember exactly the shock andf horror and fear, there was real fear this beginning of
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something much larger. i should point out, though, just of the driver of president kennedy's limousine, i do not think there is any had anythingdriver to do with this, this shot came from the rear. and this is philip shenon the book, by the way, if you want to pick it up, "a cruel and shocking act, the secret history of the kennedy assassination," us for or is joining this discussion. when it comes to fascination is ithe caller, previous, nostalgia that keeps people fascinated? unanswered questions? that to?ou attribute guest: all of that. interesting to talk to people the ere alive in 1963, other great trauma of our time was 9/eleven, a lot of people, assassination was most traumatic national event of their time and changed the way many americans feel about their government, you know, a lot of americans, the opinion
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continue to show most americans don't accept the government has ever told them of truth about the murder their president. host: in kansas, republican ann is next. caller: hello. ahead.hi, go caller: happy to finally get on, been listening a lot of years, able to get through, it's been busy. i was wanting to comment on the busy.one and it was the other topic. as far as the kennedy know that on goes, i there is so many different theories and it affected my life. a lawyer in for beverly hills at the time it happened. got were just like they mafia, theere like a bad guys, the ones that hated him got through to him. i was just so not knowing what thought oh, i just such a tragedy and i didn't even really care for him as a president. didn't, but after
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that, i had so much respect after you hear the stories, you realize, we don't often know what goes on in our life. you think you know one thing and get the real story and it's just like today, everybody for against trump everything, but he's a good person. host: okay, ann, keep it to at hand. appreciate it. guest: talk about president kennedy, onesident thing that is really interesting this week is the fact that who dent trump is the man will settle this drama for the moment and of course president rump is a conspiracy theorist, interesting to think what is going through his mind as he decides whether or not to that will se papers resolve some conspiracy theories about kennedy's death. line, last ndent call, john in minnesota. caller: hello. hear me? host: you're on, go ahead. caller: hi. i heard a check, question of the possibility that in ld had been involved
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military intelligence, when he he took the rines, russian, k a test in as i called comrade and in the unit e was hat on occasion, when the head person was sick, oswald was put was at position that he -- in ansferred to a apan, an intelligence unit ealing with u, is any of that true? guest: i think everything you said is true. the thing about lee harvey swald, you can understand why there are conspiracy theorys about this young man, he lived spy.ifelike a prefsly tried to defect to cuba union and defect to
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shortly before the assassination. he s -- he speaks russian, reads russian newspapers, you're correct, in the marine corps him as comrade and voltic. oswald was bout suspicious and you can certainly understand why people thought he ouldn't have done this by himself. host: what are you going to do comes he information that out, will you revise the book? what is your interest? rewrites theething story, i would be intrigued to try to rewrite some of my book. that is the situation, i think we will be presented with lots more vidence to show this cover-up by the c.i.a. and the f.b.i. of what they had known before the will ination, i think we get new information to bolster that. host: philip shenon, thank you this morning. 20 minutes until the end of the rogram, open phones until 10:00, 202-748-8001 for republicans. democrats 202-748-8000.
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independents, 202-748-8002. those when we come back. >> this week on q&a. [chanting] >> shoveing and jostling, the irget was charles murray, and was a little behind him. kind of intensified and looked going to fall to the ground. at the time he was a 74-year-old did what any decent human being would do when you see a 74-year-old man on the virge of the ground, i grabbed him by the arm, to make sure he didn't fall and i was afraid of a large, i don't know how many,y was fearful of being and being rom them left behind. i took his arm and it all turned on me. my hair, ulled somebody body slammed me from the other direction. allisonebury professor, stanger, discusss violent rotest on campus following
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ahead.go caller: my name is theodore, thank you for receiving my call. because i think it's time for us to know all about of 2016.ign if donald trump from day-to-day from hed everything weileaks, etcetera, why come cannot hear what is in the dossier? we read the information, as well. all, all e now for it the -- whatever it is to come out. we don't know. there is a series of investigations in congress, there is investigation going on robert mueller, do you think those will answer questions when the information comes out? if it ever comes out, where things are now, we have eople trying their best to muddy the water. we can always e, starth, it is time now to
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showing clips, whatever was in the dossier, those have been proven, just like they show the same thing in wikileaks, published about hillary's e-mails. host: tom on the republican line. yes, good morning. host: morning. caller: this is tom. on that dayced back that it was a conspiracy because kennedy's assassination. so it wasn't just oswald, there conspiracy. i'm convinced of that. thank you. host: what is the conspiracy in mind? caller: because why was his assassinated? host: who do you think is behind the two? no idea. have you know, whether it was ku dayta. i was convinced at that time, i wasn't convinced until his was assassinated. host: tom in iowa, the vice
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president being called in to a vote in the senate, this vote dealing with banking rules, that . today" reporting the republican-led senate narrowly voted on tuesday to epeal banking rule that will let consumers band together to credit card company, vice president broke a tie, banking industry had been lobbying to roll back the bureau moved to ban most types of mandatory found in n clauses fine print of agreements, consumers often enter into when account or king getting a credit card. cindy in washington state, line.ndent caller: hi. good morning. host: good morning. caller: i'm hoping the paperwork, the government coming out about president kennedy's will prove that there are reasons that the government wanted him gone and i the c.i.a., in particular, but i think that two documents
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come out are he sent a letter to the c.i.a. and one the n.s.a. saying he wanted ufo's and the out he that we have contact wanted released, he wanted that information. i hope hat paperwork, that document comes out. i think president trump is trying to save himself, which is i would like him to live and keep doing what he's doing. paul, john, st. california, republican line. go ahead. caller: good morning, i'd like north korea. i have two questions and they're open questions, i guess. one is about they had nuclear and i've nce 2003 always wondered if they have een selling weapons to get money for their regime, so i'd like to get the answer to that somehow. a question hing is of parity, i've always wondered
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a small nuclear nation would choose a fight with the in the nuclear arsenal world and i've come to the conclusion it's kind of like a b western movie where rating party calva ry, and follow them over the hill and run into whole sioux nation or if calvarycha chases the nation, y go over the hill and attack the fortbehind them. i think it is combination of both. if north korea, if we get into altercation with north think china will step in and russia will step in on that. i think it's more or less a way to provoke us into something, into a larger about t, i'm worried that. host: front page of the arizona
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republic this morning, picture who nator jeff flake, announced retirement yesterday senate, and the also took sharp criticism against president trump. compliceit, that is part of the speech from yesterday. f you want to watch the whole thing go to our website at c-span.org and view for yourself. ohio, democrat's line. caller: just curious if there anything coming out in these papers about jack ruby, it was a cover-up, shooting lee harvey oswald would way to cover it up. stefanie, independent line, you're next. caller: hi, i want to talk about the so-called tax -- stefanie, are you still there? stefanie, i for think we lost the connection with her. go to democrat's line, south
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hello.a, barbara, caller: yes. thank you. for taking my call. of all the because hull balieu about the republican party going to different directions at the same time. what i'm worried about is banks now pence did the tie-breaking vote to protect the banks against the little people. that is the thing that will be ith us for a long, long time and poor people better wake up voting for. they're other one thing and the thing that i noticed is they're law passed t a new parks that they
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are going to start charging more, that is another strike poor people, wanting to take their children to our going l parks and it is to cost more money, almost twice s much, if the republicans get their way. poor people better wake up and going on with our national policy. thank you. host: lead story in "u.s.a. today" this morning takes a look military misconduct, according to investigation by the pentagon, finding many as 500 cases. scandals involve sex including an army general who led a swinging lifestyle, lived rent free after his affair fell apart and another under investigation for facebook messages to the wife of an elicit soldier on his post. abuse, the pentagon does no trend analysis to
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etermine if the problem is worsening nor does it regularly announce punishment for generals public rals, all figures, "u.s.a. today" found. relationships, violation of military code of justice have been reassigned notice and ic allowed to retire quietly, in honors, a with full graphic highlights the various things that "u.s.a. today" found the defense department, 234 counts of personal misconduct, 109 al violations, regarding personnel matters, 60 when it comes to government travel violations and 50 other category. new york, republican line, you're next. caller: how you doing, pedro, thank you for taking my call. make a comment about the investigation into the probe, now involving hillary clinton and barack obama
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hope the press gives as uch coverage to that as they have to the supposed republican russians, i with think it is much more important. that? why do you think he's gone. nelson, in richmond hill new york, independent line. hi. caller: hi. this is nelson. would like to just talk about how the 300 million dollar contract that went to puerto friend at is actually a of a trump cabinet member, owns had only two which staffers at the time of hurricane and the fact that in washington seems border be a second alogorchy, in favor of putin, look.one you mnuchin and tillerson are in control of sanctions which aven't been levied against russia three weeks after the deadline and we have trump to
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thank for that. i wonder why is putin the new president? this jody off of twitter morning says, in response to the caller talking about admission adds, $70ic parks, she to get through the gate at yosemite right now. on twitter, post on facebook and give us a call on the phone lines. louisiana, mark, republican line, go ahead, you're on. having me.nk you for i know, i was told, this is what family, ught, kennedy's his dad, gained a lot of his prohibition and whatever connections he had or whatever connections followed his son or whatever, for it to be so secret for all time, something could be damaging, either to the kennedy name or whatever. kennedy, personally, but there is something there for it long. this way for so why would they not want to make it public? had, t the scandals we've
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the major scandals, we had nixon and now we have hillary clinton dossier that uses to get -- go to the intelligence court and get a watch app, on presidential that not like s nixon, you know? we talk over each other, we work together and not let the politicians take all our oney and abuse us the way they do, both sides do it. we talk over each other and build up so much hatred toward other, we don't work together and somebody said this is all trump's fault. you know whose fault it is to me? this is the truth. people in thests, media. i give y'all all the respect in the world for letting both sides on here and express their many ints, but so jushlists, so politically
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how they, i don't know can consider themselves journalists anymore. host: that is mark in louisiana, williamcummings on the ory following up announcement two-person energy firm won a contract to help rico.o the contract would help rebuild puerto rico electrical related to a , small montana company that had only two employees when maria struck the u.s. territory and sparked calls for investigation from republicans democrats on capitol hill, in addition to size and relative nexperience, the fact white fish energy holdings is based in zi zinke's home town of louisiana. congressman'stana son had a summer job at a white fish construction site, a for the house natural resources chairman rob bishop, epublican of utah, agreed that the congressional review was needed. the committee has jurisdiction
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and other u.s. territories. stan from connecticut, democrat's line. morning. caller: morning. i just wanted to say that a lot f people don't realize that trump is an actual protege of to joseph assistant mccarthy and that kind of his playbook, f approach to things. under otege, he studied him and this kind of reveals something about him that is not obvious. host: so what example would you give, then, of being the protege plays out now as president at the white house? gets inoh, trump, if he a battle, he just coming back again and again and cohen's art of roy approach and many other things, you'll ou research it, see that there is a lot of similarities between those two
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individuals. albany, new york, hear next from jane, independent line. hey, how you doing? i want to make a quick comment to sue the banks. i really find it interesting now out with want to come this bill, especially after the madoff.nd the i truly believe this bill should we should nacted and have already had something in place to get some kind of like retr reution or get paid for loss banks.e citibank wound up getting sued too long ago, they had owed them money. your comment on that, should it be a bill for that? hould the banks be held responsible through litigation to, you know, consumers? ost: i'll let the viewers respond, if they wish. barbara in tennessee, republican line. go ahead.
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yeah, i wanted to ask you a question about the event friday night xas for the hurricane victims, that there were five former there.nts did c-span, was c-span there during that? we covered it, but hopefully in a minute or so, i can confirm that 100%, i it.eve we covered caller: no, i checked all three stations, nobody covered it. our website check at c-span.org, because i'm told that we did cover it, you can there if you especially type in the video library. internet, in't have was hoping to see it on t.v. ost: we took it in, i don't know if we will reair it, our website probably the best source you that tion to tell information. but barbara, thank you for calling in. of representatives just about to come in

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