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>> tweeting yesterday, paul ryan says reports out of taxes are devastating. the people of sutherland springs need our prayers. they were praying when it happened, they don't need our prayers, they need us to address and passiolence crisis sensible regulation. headline across the front page of the san antonio express-news. time for worship turns to harbor. -- horror. the new york times with the -- the victims ranged from five to 72 years old.
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today,nt page of usa they note the attacker was found fatally shot a short time later. later after an attack in a neighboring county. there is no motive for the attack but they didn't officially identified the gunman. two law enforcement officials were not authorized to comment publicly. the new york times in their information about that man. he served in the air force at a base in new mexico but was court-martialed in 2000 12 on charges of assaulting his wife and child. sentenced to 12 months of confinement. again, the motive in the attack is unclear.
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of this morning, there is a lot to investigate. we are getting your reaction today on this latest mass shooting. democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independent callers, (202) 748-8002. hisident trump shared reaction yesterday. here is what he had to say. areur thoughts and prayers with today's horrible and murderers attack. this act of evil occurred as victims and their families were in their place of sacred worship. we cannot indoor the pain and grief that we all feel and we cannot begin to imagine the suffering of those who lost the ones they so dearly loved.
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our hearts are broken. but it is dark times and these are dark times. it is dark times such as these when americans do what they do best. we pull together. we join hands and lock arms. sadness,gh tears and we stand strong. oh, so strong. provideistration will full support to the great state and all local authorities investigating this horrible crime. , just a fewn minutes ago with governor abbott and we offer our thanks to the andt responders, the fbi all of the many people involved, federal and otherwise.
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ultimately they stopped the and rendered immediate, life-saving aid to certain victims. i will continue to follow .evelopments all of america is praying to god to help the wounded and families of the victims. we will never live -- we will never leave their side. we want to hear from you. lines for democrats, republicans and independent callers. the lines are yours. catherine is in massachusetts on the line for democrats. good morning. place, thethe first pastor is responsible for what happened. he sacrificed his congregation to the son and god.
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told man to worship on the first day of eight days. and for these pastors to preach this stuff to the congregation -- they had no business in there. your point. to alabama, sandra, your reaction. to me, because i have lived here a long time and congress has voted god out of the country. this generation, i do believe it because oftion putting god out. that would make it better is to allow school systems to put him back in
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there. that was ridiculous taking him out of school. class,went and went to you finished your work early and you went at the 10 commandments. every day led off with bible and prayer. can't remember anything like it has been over the last few years. i wish they would go back to smaller schools, not these lake buildings. then you arels and allowed to punish the children. put prayer and bible reading back. host: john is in maryland, and independent. good morning. give my sympathies and deepest condolences to those who lost loved ones. i think the country should start a dialogue with gun control, automatic weapons need to be banned. there is no reason that i can think about why people want
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automatic weapons other than for creating atrocities that happened in texas. that is my comment. thank you for taking my call. times noted inr their reporting that it is unclear how they obtained the weapon used or why he targeted that church. an ar-15es say he used very end, a knockoff of the standard service rifle carried by american military for roughly half a century. they are legally sold in the fire onlytes that semiautomatically and were covered by the ban that went into effect in 1994. since the ban expired, weapons have been legal to sell in the united states and sales have searched. they sell for about $500 and $900, depending on the model. former comment now from
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president barack obama, taking to twitter. "may god grant all of us to ask what concrete steps we can take to reduce violence and weaponry in our midst." obama, he tweeted a few times yesterday. here on capitol hill and around the country, we do want to hear from you. there is also the governor of texas with a statement out yesterday. governor abbott saying that while details of this horrific act or under investigation, cecelia and i want to send our thoughts and prayers to all of those who have been affected by this evil act. i want to thank on enforcement for their response and ask that all texans pray for unity during this time of loss. what you think? as we show the flag at half mast at the u.s. capitol? caller: i'm glad they put the
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flag at half staff. i think it is good that somebody thatave been in the church helps with the gun. but i think congress needs to pass a ban on assault weapons. because what do you need them for? other than to go to war? you think that is politically possible right now? i'm assuming you have watched the debates over gun legislation in the past? well, it would be possible if we had more smart gun lobbying agencies that were able to be as effective as the nra and things like that, yes, i do think so. host: senator dianne feinstein has been pushing for a bump stock been in the wake of a and she tweeted yesterday that this shooting in vegas comes -- this
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shooting yesterday came one month after vegas. randy is in louisiana on the line for independent callers, go ahead. caller: hello? ok. hey. well. it, ite way i look at seems like every time there is some kind of shooting, they are on some kind of drug. changing their story about the las vegas shooting. , this could have been orchestrated by the cia or the fbi or the atf. get: we are not going to ahead of the investigation or speculate this morning. we are looking for reaction today. and we will let the
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investigation play out and we will bring you information from the investigation as we learned. it is continuing and we will keep looking for updates. we do want to hear from the viewers this morning about your reaction. thomas is in sterling, virginia. go ahead. caller: i'm so sorry for this senseless violence. i think the gun debate will continue to matter what and i don't think it should be politicized. i think it is possible that these killings are being done as a need for fame by lone wolf's and i would suggest that their names not be published. and may be in the future, people won't seek doing such things to gain fame. they when you say shouldn't be politicized, what do you mean by that? isler: i don't believe there a current solution with gun control. i think people who want to
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commit these atrocities are going to do so, one way or another. and i think it is other motivations that cause people to do this, not just the availability of handguns or semiautomatic weapons. in this case, i believe that this person, if they were called shooter x, it might restrict people in the future from committing such a heinous crime. host: steve, good morning. i wanted to say something about background checks but your other callers have proud to me to say something about semiautomatic weapons. i am a concealed gun owner. if you do away with these weapons, it's no different. you still have hunting weapons out there in larger caliber. it's just the high-capacity magazines that they would
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change. if you did away with the ar then you have hunting weapons. i'm sad. and my pastoroer preached yesterday and we are sad. back to the background check. versusrable discharge bad conduct discharge, i found out this morning that they are not the same thing. if you have a dishonorable discharge, you can't pass a background check. i am wondering about the bad conduct discharge. you have to go through a general court-martial to receive that, a dishonorable discharge which shows up on the records but a youugh that term around but said that he had a bad conduct. host: that is what has been reported. the bad conduct but not a dishonorable discharge.
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they need to extend that to the bad conduct? host: is this something you look at?gress should caller: absolutely. people develop opinions about the church, early on. they might have over pairing -- they might have overbearing parents who pushed the church and you don't how sick this guy is. you know? confident are you that congress will look into this and there will be action? here we are, a month from what happened in las vegas and dianne feinstein is expecting frustration for not getting enough support for her bump stock legislation in the wake of that attack? caller: i don't understand it.
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i don't understand why people want to turn a semiautomatic weapon. i think nothing will really happen. host: kevin from maryland on the line for democrats, good morning. caller: it is about public policy. the guy who did this served a year in jail and with the bump and republicans are -- i'm not trying to say that it is just republicans. but look at public policy. this guy bought a gun last year and he was able to buy one of these guns. so it is a decision about who you vote for and their position
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on these things. reasonable gun control. we used to have reasonable positions but now you without anything politicians being held hostage to anything. members believe in reasonable control with background checks but the nra is firearmcompany for the industry. so their goal -- if you look at the money, it is for the gun industry. the nra is nothing more than a lobby to sell as many guns as possible. and they make it think so that americans are going to get their hunting guns taken away and nobody wants that. but these people keep voting for aree officials, they cowards in the sense of standing up for reasonable gun control.
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host: what are examples of reasonable gun control? caller: like the bump stocks. how on the world could they ever be allowed? thewould they ever not watch? everybody knew there was a device you could do to convert your gun into a semiautomatic but no one spent any time watching tragedy after tragedy public, you'ren going to have these mass shootings. host: that was kevin in maryland. -- stronger gun control in the wake of the sandy hook elementary school killings in connecticut. and he released a statement yesterday. "the parallel assess that you feel right now -- the paralysis that you feel right now isn't real. it is a fiction created and
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methodically cultured by the gun lobby designed to assure that no laws are passed to make america safer because those laws cut into their profits. he said, none of this is inevitable. as my colleagues go to sleep, they need to think about whether the gun industry is worth the blood flowing endlessly into the floors of churches, elementary schools and city streets. ask yourself, how can you say you claim to respect human life when -- measures of your constituents? that was part of senator chris murphy statement he put out yesterday. you can read his full statement on his website. this morning, we get your reactions to the shooting. one more newspaper from texas, the dallas morning news with the headline this morning "horrific roger, an independent.
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caller: thank you c-span for allowing us to voice our feelings and opinions and god bless the families that have suffered loss for all of these horrible murders with guns. i want to say that i hate guns. they are made to kill people. yes, you can do other things with them but guns are made to kill people first. and why does the headline say "terrorist runs over and kills eight people, runs his truck gunmane crowd." but a kills 26 people in a church. kills 50 people at a concert in las vegas. an elementarys up school of first graders. a gunman does this terrorism.
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at somebody,a gun you are a terrorist because you terrorized that human being. people, we need peace in our lives. that rid of the guns. you don't need a gun. if you want a gun, join the military. thank you, that is my thought. host: out of corpus christi, gunman kills 26." caroline from california on the line for republicans, go ahead. yes, i taught school for almost 45 years and we didn't have shootings. and yet there were guns, ever since the revolutionary war. what happened was, in my the little white hospital -- and when i was
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called, they were called in sane asylums -- a recalled in sane asylums until he could get help for them. but now, everybody has a split personality. they are two people and we give themmedicine and we give hydrocodone and all the things. , having, once the brain taught science, once the brain has absorbed the change with the medicine being strong -- first grade teachers are telling getnts to take children to drugs in the first grade. ritalin. that is the beginning. grass.t kids start with
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and what do we do? we spend $50 billion getting rid of smoking and our street's and restaurants and schools and all of the many things and places that we go. almost a smoke-free world but the only go out and legalize 17 states? to sell marijuana? int: that was caroline california. a tweet yesterday from gabby gifford, herself the victim of a mass shooting attack when she was home in her district. she said yesterday on twitter that she is praying for lawmakers to find coverage -- to find courage. this must stop. she is now a strong advocate of increased gun control. here is a story from the wall street journal today, focusing
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on sutherland springs. a tiny town southeast of san antonio. everybody knows everyone and "it has one main cross street." there aren't even any red lights. the town is incorporated. residents say it is too small to operate to school so children tend to their studies nearby. to threes home churches. and one of those churches is now the site of the latest mass shooting in this country. paulette on the line for democrats, good morning. caller: i just have a couple of comments. the love of money is the root of all evil. that is why the nra doesn't want to do regulations. second is that if we treat gun sales like we treat our sales, -- inquirence
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and my lasthecks comment is for god to bless us. from domestic and foreign terrorists. host: bobby, go ahead. caller: for three years i worked education in japan with disabled children. i was able to go into the mountains with a friend of mine, japanese. hunting. we huntedhis gun and to small species of deer and goats and through the hunting process, he explained to me that he was able to get his long guns only after -- i thought he was joking -- a 10 year waiting. check.and a background
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i said, you have to be kidding me. no, you have to do that to get a shotgun in japan. as i thought about this, i thought about why -- it is partly cultural, i know that -- but the japanese don't have such a problem with shooting and killing and firearms. very seldom, it is very rare. i lived in texas for six years. the deep south for most of my life. the gun culture in the united states is an endemic part of american life. and unless there is better it is going to continue. it is part of american life.
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host: do you think a 10 year atting time is realistic this point? if not, what is realistic? that could be taken in this environment? caller: what does crazy donnie say about immigration? we need to have hyper advanced investigations for people. so we could apply this for enhanced hyper vigilance on immigration two people acquiring firearms, something reasonable? a good solid year or two of a background check to see if somebody is unstable, such as the gentleman who probably severe from some sort of mental elements. one can assume. or two, with an
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enhanced method that crazy does for emigration. host: we get your point. the discussion is happening on twitter as well. karen writes in "if you banned weapons, bad actors will get them through criminal sellers. bad idea. " "if hunting rifles are no different then how come we never see them use a bold action deer rifle? " thisaren points to how apparently ended yesterday, saying it was a gun who took the demon down, it keeping him from killing even more. i never owned a gun and i don't have one and i don't want one. apparently a good samaritan did engage the attacker.
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did give chase to the attacker. we are still waiting for further information about how he eventually died, whether it was self inflict it or not. last point, chris murphy, the senator who statement we read earlier address this, as well. another one of his twitter theowers pointed out that attacker here was engaged by a good samaritan and chris murphy wrote yesterday that "let's be clear. nobody stopped the shooting. 26 people are dead in one of the countries mass shootings. " a sad anniversary yesterday. eight years to the day of the fort hood rampage. newspapers did note. usa today also noted the timeline here of some of the deadliest mass shooting's in this country in the past 17
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months, we have seen three of the worst mass shooting's end this now counts for one of them. as the las vegas attack and the orlando nightclub attack that killed 49 people. on june 12, 2016. 17 months, those three are among the worst mass shootings in american history. rob is in ohio, go ahead. caller: hello? host: good morning. my comment to you folks is -- i am a christian and i people who were shot, you are absent from your body and you are present with the lord. and this country will see more and more people killed. and it is because of the absence of god in the country. you have over 300 million guns
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in this country that have said from the media and the only thing that is being done to resolve anything is that people are hating people. i turn on facebook and i watch abouty own relatives talk who they hate and how this person is nuts and all of these things. we are producing hate. is the answer? caller: we need to work on our heart. get back to the basics. you had an elderly woman on earlier who said this country has always had guns and it is part of the makeup of america but until people return to the past, they are not going to solve anything. and our pastor means a godly past. eliminated god from schools. we have eliminated god from public holdings. and the point is is that our
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education is atheistic and angry. everything is angry. 24/7. we can watch our own presidents. not just trump but all of them. eventually there is something negative said that works up one group of people against another group of people. now people are worked up against christians and the deplorables. i could go on and on. obama, when he talked about weaponry earlier but obama, himself, when he was president, he used to racism. and he should have raised above it. all of the black pastors i know preached about love. we are born with the free will to choose what we want to believe. host: that was rob in ohio. we are showing your reaction now
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from members of congress. here is ted cruz from texas, saying he is keeping all those he is in prayers and that grateful to the first responders on the scene. the other senator from texas says it is truly heart breaking prayer fore say a the community there. that it iseports devastating and the people need prayers right now. is congressman eric swalwell, a democrat from thefornia, pointing out attacker's apparent history and bad conduct with discharge from the military in the wake of a domestic violence issue saying " please, house republicans, explain to me why we shouldn't know the for selling someone a gun if they have an assault
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conviction." saying theykentucky are sending condolences to the sutherland springs community. linda has been waiting in arkansas on the line for democrats. good morning. caller: good morning. i have a comment. six years ago, i heard an article about how they were talking about how cities and states keep a specific crime statistics take great what is amount of people that are wanted on current warrants. not the people in jail. not the people who have gotten out of jail. but current warrants. and at that time, colorado springs -- before they change the marijuana laws and taxes
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one quarter of the population had current warrants according to a newspaper article. i think that if people knew that, they would have more of a sense as to how big the crime problem is. and we could make more of a judgment. on guns. think that is something lawmakers should release to the public? cities and states don't want to be listed as blighted areas. host: so they want to make sure people come and live in the district. caller: bright. and when they find out what the crime statistics are, they go somewhere else that has a secret. westminster, maryland. good morning. go ahead. caller: i am a former member of the nra and my view is that at
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some point in the late 1990's or 2000s, the nra turned from a lobby from hunters to a lobby for the manufacturers. maybe they always were but that is my impression. once it went that way, i dropped my membership. and now, the perception to me is control, the of nra touts as complete disarmament. you look at the pattern and it is military style assault rifles that are used in the shootings and those rifles are designed for one purpose. to kill people. opinion, i think, let the hobbyist and hunters have long rifles but assault rifles, i
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think -- in the words one of the colors used, use extreme vetting before you can purchase. back to ayou think policy issue on current control when you are and nra member and explain the communication to you as a member and how that process worked? and what they told you about legislation and action they took? caller: i can't think of a specific example now but i remember when i moved from one ago, to another 20 years the local nra office was very helpful. the gave me links to find local state laws so that when i moved, everything was done properly. so in that respect, they were helpful.
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host: thank you for your call. we are taking your calls and getting your reaction in the wake of this latest mass shooting. all minds are open for you to call in. democrats, (202) 748-8000. .epublicans, (202) 748-8001 independent callers, (202) .48-8002 we will get back to your calls. today, there will be the house republican tax reform bill will begin working its way through the committee process. the house ways and means committee take that up today at noon. we will be airing that committee meeting live on c-span two and c-span.org and you can listen on .he c-span radio that is something we will be talking about through the week as the process continues. also through the week, the president's trip overseas continues. here are some photos of the president's trip.
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he was in japan yesterday. in japan, he targeted north korea, seeking to put pressure on north korea. he is scheduled to attend the asian economic summit in vietnam and the philippines where his criticism of the trade agreement will take center stage. trump will try to persuade china and other nations to cut economic ties with north korea to pressure kim jong-un to give up his weapons. the sidelinest on with the president in vietnam. so certainly, there is a lot of interest in that meeting. one other headline from the president's trip, this is the president addressing u.s. troops at dakota airbase in japan. trump rallied the troops in flexes military muscle. the photo of the president above that headline from his trip overseas. one other political issue to stay on top of for you in
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virginia, the close governor's to the wire.g down the general election is tomorrow in the state of virginia. several stories on that in papers today including this from the washington post, the opinion page wondering what the will to hell about trump's power. we will see what happens. the new york times and their coverage of that race says the tactics in that tight virginia race may become a guide elsewhere as we look ahead to 2018 and 2020. identity politics come into play in that article by jonathan martin and the new york times if you want to read that today. back to your calls as we continue to get your reaction in this first segment of the washington journal on that shooting yesterday at a church in texas. in this latestd mass shooting.
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dave is in wisconsin on the line for an dependent callers. go ahead. caller: yes. i am 65 years old. i have owned guns all my life and i am not against guns. but there is more to this than that. these assault type rifles seem to be the weapons of choice in these mass shootings with high-capacity clips. and, you know, it wouldn't bother me if they were banned or regulated. and i think some type of sensible regulation -- i have no problem with that. but there is something going on here. there whofolks out may not understand the lingo an assaultplain what weapon is? what defines that? ban assault weapons, how do you distinguish them? caller: this is the assault type
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replica. a rep for of what the military uses. i realize they are only semi automatic but the thing is, they have high-capacity flips. and that differs them from regular semi automatic hunting rifles. it is the magazine capacity. wrap off 20u could rounds really fast and it probably improves your aim. but that isn't the problem. what i'm trying to get here is that it is a societal problem. what to drive someone to hate himself and the people around him so much that he is willing to take his own life? and all of other people with him? my heart goes out to these people that have been involved in these mass shootings. this is something that we, as a society, we have to look at. what drives people to do this? adversee seems to be
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into any kind of research. what is wrong with our society that pushes people to these types of situations? and the mental health issue how our and also, society works. the difference between the haves and have-nots and, you know, the hate that we seem to have for each other, whether it is the color of our skin or our economic situations. i don't know the answer. but i think we should get really serious about looking into what is behind all of this. you can ban these assault rifles and i think there are enough of them out there right now that these mass shootings are baked into the cake. similar to terrorism. what is behind terrorism? we can't kill enough terrorists to stop terrorism.
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what are the reasons behind it? host: that was dave and david is in michigan on the line for immigrants. go ahead. caller: thank you for taking my call. my thoughts and prayers to all of those affected by this. donald is at fault for this one. the man was obviously mentally ill. lifted the mentally ill ban that mentally ill people in america now have access to all of the guns that they want. only because he wants to undo anything that president obama put in. these are bad republican gun laws. they always have been. republicans did not reinstate the assault and that president clinton put in and disaster donald promised us. if he was elected, all the carnage would stop but yes what?
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it is getting worse and worse and worse. because now isis is attacking us on our soil. half ofe taken over afghanistan and we have been fighting there for 16 years. this is on disaster donald. host: as we said before, there is a lot to learn about motive here. we don't have a motive yet. but as to what david was referring to in terms of the law that trump helped overturn, this was back in february, reporting we did talkk and about this when it happened, the social security administration finalized the standing rule in december under president barack obama, this law that that was going into action within its first two months of trump but he repealed it without public display.
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it prevented certain individuals with mental health conditions from buying firearms. prior to his overturning the rule, four democratic senators were up for reelection and had sided with republicans to revoke it. with the revaccination, the social security was reported to -- individuals who are unable to work because of severe mental impairment and can't manage their own social security benefits and were ineligible to buy guns. socialught that those security recipients could pose a danger to themselves or others. again, that repealed it happen back in february. , aning out in texas independent. good morning. caller: good morning. i am a veteran. and my thoughts are this. thenu have to be an guns, you should been drugs because
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they also kill people. if you want to kill somebody, you don't need a gun to do it. we need to educate our children. our every educating children? all of the violent videogames, we allow them to watch but we expect them to god into society and behave like human beings? this is what we promote. host: what do you say to those people who say that a gun can kill a lot more people a lot faster, especially these guns with things like bump stocks or large capacity magazines? what do you say to those folks? that a well, i would say truck with a bomb could kill more people. if you want to kill people, you don't need a bomb -- you don't need a gun to do it. guns don't kill people. it is the idiot behind the gun who does it. and what we teach our children
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that are causing the chaos, it is sad but it is the truth. have a few more tweets here. robert says the current event will not encourage people to turn over their guns. and jim writes in that you would think by now that congress has that prayers are ineffective. talking about prayers offered by congress. our country ist excessive with these types. and -- says maybe something could be done by the sides of structures offering bullet protection in the wake of this latest mass shooting. or more headlines from around texas. from the star-telegram "this is horrific." is the headline.
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is from the gas station where she did work a block away. the front page of the amarillo globe news, "everybody is going to be affected." a picture of the scene outside the first baptist church. and one more from the denton "cord chronicle, a shooting, texas' deadliest." ind is waiting out international falls, minnesota. the line for republicans. go ahead. caller: good morning to you. i have heard and listened to the whole discussion and i have to shake my head at people cracking as the nra. i have never heard of an nra member shooting at people. the peopleoblem is
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before saying it is a societal problem. it truly is a societal problem. where did they get this information? who is spreading it? why are they doing it? some of these get people talking about donald and stuff like that, you know they ie msnbc and cnn followers, think the media should be held accountable because they're are the ones doing the brainwashing. but it is the viewer that is self inducing the brainwashing to themselves. and i think that until the media pipes down and quits cracking on about stupidity, you know, we do have a societal problem. -- if you don't think the media is pushing stupidity, i don't know where else they are getting it.
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is that on one side or both sides? caller: one side. most of the mass shooters are democrats. do you ever think about that? host: that is not a statistic that i have seen. where did you get that? caller: absolutely not. i bet -- when you talk about statistics and they want to talk about statistics being so great, they use per capita numbers. in my county, there are less than 15,000 people in my whole county. so if there is a shooting in my county, which is really rare, it would show that per capita, we are higher than chicago. but wait a minute. hold the phone. so now we have statistics that are swaying people that are meaningless statistics.
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if you put a dot where people get shot every day, most of them land in the big 25 blue cities. that is where it happens. host: we get your point. larry, go ahead. caller: thank you for taking my call. i'm concerned from a different angle. because i am concerned about what happens to all of the people who get injured or are disabled, do they get some kind of special coverage from the government? the va?erans to at way can be done about the we give health care to people, especially people who are injured in these increasingly popular mass shootings? and terrorism? i think people in england and thana would be better off
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the survivors of the shootings. for taking my call. host: we appreciate the call. miranda is in tennessee, a republican. go ahead. are you with us? we go to frank from new york. go ahead. this mass shooting is terrible. not much you can do. but a call or before said there should be more education of weapons and how to use them. are goingody, if they to get a weapon, they need to have a photo id, just like a drivers license. and then that should be the end of it. weapons,ee people as they won't walk in and shoot. that is the bottom line. nra members don't shoot people. it is the wax jobs. if anyone has a weapon, they should have a photo id like a drivers license.
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make it legal. host: do you own a gun? caller: yes. i don't carry. i don't have a reason to carry in new york. it is pretty calm. host: by appreciate the call. in denver, colorado. a democrat. caller: yes, this is dave in denver. people were hitting on some of the solutions. that noreal problem is one has even mentioned that it is called religion. last week, the guy in new york that god islered whatever.uha akbar or this is admit that religion, nothing will be solved. until we met that this is at then that -- look
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middle east. what is it all about? religion. and these people calling in to claim to have the divine wisdom? it is sad. it is sad. don't forget that they are half a chromosome away from a chimpanzee. keep that. host: what you imply by that? cocoa they are delusional. host: who is they? believe in some guy in the sky, you are delusional. of or jesus. host: you don't think anyone in organized religion should own a gun? caller: i don't think people who are delusional should own guns .r vote host: we have five minutes left in this opening segment of the washington journal. we want to keep you updated on a
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few other stories this morning. this story on senator rand paul's condition, recovering from five broken ribs and bruising to his lungs, unclear when he will return to washington, signaling that the injuries he sustained on friday are more severe than originally thought. he was allegedly attacked by a next-door neighbor. a 59-year-old who was charged with fourth degree assault. the nature of the dispute remains a mystery to locals who in theth men based southwest kentucky town. senator rand paul did tweet yesterday about his condition. saying his wife and he appreciate the overwhelming support after friday's "unfortunate event." one other story that is getting thet of attention involves commerce secretary, wilbur ross.
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he apparently failed to disclose business connections to vladimir putin's family and inner circle on a required personal financial form earlier this year. that is according to documents from this weekend. he said earlier this year he would retain stakes owned by his private equity firm in a shipping company. he didn't disclose that the company does millions of dollars with a moscow-based chemical company. they have close ties to the kremlin, according to an analysis by the international consortium of journalists. this ties were revealed weekend in h rove of documents from a bermuda-based law firm. the owners, the wall street mary tonotes that -- vladimir putin's youngest daughter. in light of all of
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the russia stories lately is getting a lot of information today in several different major papers around the country. time for a few more calls in this first segment. but we will have time later in the program to talk about this again about 9:30 this morning. ohio,as been waiting in on the line for republicans. go ahead. caller: hello. my name is jane and i am from cincinnati. this is about the guns. they't understand why stopped stopped and frisk. i think they would get a lot of people that shouldn't be carrying guns. host: do you think those tactics , stop and frisk, should be used across the country?
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caller: yes they could. white, black, yellow, green. whatever. host: go ahead. caller: thank you for taking my call. of the tv andth movie executives who put up the message about guns, constantly. about how it is macho to shoot people. the texass ago, preceded a days or two with almost an identical scene. and there was a real host trump waso, president
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asked about the mass shooting in texas. pres. trump: that mental health is your problem here. this was a very, based on report -- prillaman a reports, a deranged individual. we have a lot of mental health problems in our country, as do other countries. a guns situation. i mean, we could go into it, but it is a bit soon to go into it. fortunately, some of you had a gun shooting in the opposite direction otherwise it would have been much worse. problema mental health at the highest level. it is a very, very sad event. these are great people and a very, very sad event. at that is the way i view it. >> texas republican commerce and roger williams tweeted this morning -- "my heart is very heavy and we are praying a lot for small-town sutherland springs and all communities involved." jim mcgovern, "how many
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more americans have to die before the house gop finally stands up to the national rifle association and puts people ahead of campaign cash? we must act now." >> the house ways and means before sending it to the full house for debate and vote. watch live coverage today starting at noon eastern on c-span 2 and c-span.org. and listen live using the free c-span radio app. from david shall consider at the national press club. you will be talking this afternoon about the v.a.'s efforts to improve the health care system live at 1:00 p.m. eastern right here on c-span. tonight on the communicators, a look at the congressional hearings this past week with attorneys from facebook, google, and twitter over russian sponsored political ads in the
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effect they had on the 2016 election. we're joined by technology reporters. >> we have an idea what happened. we know of a number of ads purchased. it is possible there were more. accounts that purchased ads on twitter and we know about some action on google. what we don't yet know is whether there was any collusion with the trump campaign in coordination with buying these ads on social media. and we don't really know if his suede the election one way or the other. >> picked up on wide-ranging concerns the lawmakers had about the brett of these companies and lack of accountability in the law for them. for example, you had john kennedy not particularly active on tech issues grilling about data privacy. --sumer david of prophecy privacy, is clearly something worrying him. i think a lot of americans worry
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about it when you look at polling data, too. i think we understood russia was the focus of these hearings and the urgent matter, but there is a broader set of concerns may be feeling this distrust. >> watch "the communicators" at 8:00 eastern on c-span 2. the c-span bus is traveling across the country on our 50 capital store. we resell he stopped in jefferson city, missouri, asking folks, what is the most important issue in their state. i'm concerned about foreign policy. with a big change in administration. it is a little bit different than the past year or eight years, rather. hopefully, we can continue to go smoothly. it has been a little rocky at the start. c-span is what helps keep me up-to-date on this. women'sconcerned about health care. it seems like it is always under attack. i think in order for women to be
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truly equal, we need to have free control of our bodies. >> my issue with what i think missouri needs is we need good paying jobs. we need people to be up to contribute to society, to their local area, and a help serve others. one way you can do that is by having a really, really good job. that is something i would like to see from the state of missouri. >> i would like to see -- try to help more of those that are the neediest in our communities. we have a project homeless connect. we have several other different significant events in our community. we are trying to make an impact. if that could be done statewide, i think would make our state maybe one of the models for the nation. and i would love to see that. >> my issue is we need more
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era,rs of the world war ii i think. i am a little on the edge of that. i just thought -- i've been listening to with center chill -- winston churchill and visiting his museum. the people of the 1940's did some wonderful things. >> voices from the states on c-span. cable or satellite provider. >> "washington journal" continues. host: each week in this segment of "washington journal" we take look at how your money is at work and in a different federal program. focusing on the children's health insurance rogram, better known as chip, joined by alex ruoff of bloomberg, he's here to help xplain where the program stands, what it is, remind us as
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e start this discussion, who qualifies for chip and what services it provides for folks? chip is safety net above medicaid. edicaid serves the poorest americans, but in the '90s there as realization there were families, specifically children, not having employer provide needed nsurance who health insurance from the government. so this is just above medicaid. people who are above 150% of 0%, maybe 100, the poverty line, people whose jobs are in the service industry, people who maybe both the service work in industry, really not employer provided health insurance, meant to stay above medicaid, similar programs,d, state-run given allotted amounts of money, a granting system and they set
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up their own programs. 13.5 total cost yearly billion, 9 million children or covered in the chip program. we're talking about it in "your segment," should note special line for chip your family is on the chip program. 202-748-2003. independents, 202-748-8002. alex ruoff, for the nine million children covered, how much does up, how have to pick much do they pay out of pocket and what sort of services are they getting? chip is dependent on the states, states really define a are, some have y been pretty innovative with the wrapped ome have around, make sure kids get a big robust more ices,
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han medicaid, medicaid does -- array of services -- i wouldn't say some, defined set of really has to go pretty far. hildren need dental coverage, pediatric care and children go it is doctor quite often, meant to be very robust program pays e federal government more to states, a matching states right now some get 100% of programs paid for, a 90%, the federal government is pulling the tab. generous, that was the idea. when children are covered from a is rnment program, it important they get robust services. and orin hatch are long believers of that. host: what are the stat? funding expired september 0, beginning of fiscal year.
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the federal government's funds expired, they are not giving new money. this does not mean the states have run out, the new sets of the system is built for a little bit -- run-over money that is set ark side for the federal government year.tra money each those will start to -- depending some will ate is, dwindle by the end of the year. five states, i believe they are minnesota, ina, -- i a, washington, d.c. gallon blank on the last one, i think it might be nevada, will out by january. that is pretty alarming, specially with this point, states have to prepare for that. one of the tricky issues, they by january, they can't just pull the plug or reeze it, they have to alert beneficiaries starting later this month or member likely in december. looking states are forward to telling their
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residents, hey, we might have to enrollment, we might have to roll back your benefits tis alarming, as cuimagine, for a lot of families if that is to happen. of states do not want it in there, it is an expensive process. c-span voters know there was a vote on chip in the house, that take this program? guest: it is pretty complicated issue here. chip he house passed a bill, a five-year extension, it came with other health programs, passed largely along party pretty much icans except three voted for it, all but 15 democrats voted for it. democrats took issue with how the republicans want to pay for this. ballpark of 15 or 16 billion dollar bill all together a lotid for it by cutting of obamacare funds. funds really meant to pull out progra -- a.c.a.
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fund h.h.s. t to programs for preventing disease issues. they also voted down the grace you did pay your insurance premiums, short amount time you are given to pay premiums, they will cut it off. have issue with some of these and feel that a lot of effort ressed this was know,botage obamacare, you way that pay-for program shared something with chip they felt they couldn't support, taking money from the affordable care act. host: does this bill move in the senate? guest: no, i don't believe so. democrats who want to support it, they need eight. hey have been pretty onboard with affordable care act there. leading democrat on the senate finance committee, has really been very outspoken saying he's not going to
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support the cost the house has ut together, he's really working with orin hatch on something they can put together, waiting on that, a lot of unknown and i think a lot of lawmakers are getting are being e they placed, 15 democrats supported this bill and all had a chance the offices last week, a lot of them, more than alf are from states run out of money first. you know, they are nervous, they listen, i'm worried the program will end, i want to get his going, that is potent, particularly in washington, you don't want to be responsible for causing children to run out of ealth insurance, i don't think that is politically healthy for anyone. there is pressure to get this moving. host: we'll take some of your questions this morning. we have phone lines for emocrats, republicans, independents, as usual and special line for chip recipie s 202-78-2003 is that
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number. a are joined by alex ruoff, health policy reporter. mark up first, austin, texas, democrats. go ahead. caller: hello, who am i speaking with? alex.you are on with alex ruoff. kwaukt how you doing? disabled and my carrier is united healthcare. out on friday that hey are no longer covering the dental plan on your insurance with united healthcare, but the didn't get it was i no letter until two months ater, i just got the letter on friday, but the thing stopped dental plan.the no one told me or said anything about it. that.as my comment about you know, everyone in austin, texas, the state of texas know longer have dental plan if they have united healthcare. host: did you have questions children's health
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insurance program? caller: i don't have any kids and i was just listening to the program, i just wanted to put that out there. host: got it. something you cover in your reporting? anything to what the caller respond p that you can to? guest: i'm not sure if you are employer-sponsored insurance or where you purchased it from. insurers are looking to cut and over again, shifting of benefits, you know, year on year. it is a pretty complicated issue, i have to say depends on things, shifting of networks catches people off guard. get your ho you insurance from. bron bronx, new the york. good morning. guys, my od morning, heart goes out to the folks out shooting.ith the my question is, you put on the numbers, i think i
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and 13e million children and a half billion dollars. does -- how does that get federal and squared away? money forike a lot of that amount of people. can someone answer that for me? thank you. host: alex ruoff. guest: yeah, chip is funded largely through the federal overnment, unlike other programs like medicaid or subsidies you might get on the market, most money is federal money and states pay for it. their own program. florida you get larger freedom, set out. that chip is an expensive program, yout to be generous because are paying insurance for children, a very specific set of low-income children. it does try to go an extra mile medicaid. i don't know if you have children, there is medicaid say, childrenwill
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aren't cheap to take care of, they are regularly visited by regular check-ups, there is assistance through this nd you are trying to cover these children over set of period. children does medicaid pick up versus the 9 talked about through chip? guest: complicated. a lot of programs are medicaid and chip programs. i don't have the number sitting large t of me, but a majority of that 9 million are under medicaid programs that are programs,edicaid chip this is just -- host: states put the programs together? yes, since affordable care act was passed, expansion somewhat d was supposed to fade out chip. medicaid was expanded up to chip level of income and the idea was that enough children would be covered under medicaid and new expanded medicaid with people who got there or they would end up on market, they would say, your
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parents are getting subsidies, would be rolled into private insurance programs. or a number of reasons, that hasn't happened, not every state expanded medicaid, the rollout not been perfect. there has been an argument about the switchover here. look more expensive, but at largely across this wide wath, you know, it is not more expensive if chip, especially incrediblyedicaid are efficient when you think about insurance programs, the number you think ge when across federal programs, private the way , you look at the federal government pays for programs, it is relative lie the way it pays for help. host: mark, a family that is in under the chip program, a chip recipient on from nnorfolk, virginia. how does your family use the
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chip program? caller: absolutely. we have four children in the chip program. it was help whfl my wife had to to school to pick up her secondary degree. i can tell you, virginia has a super dooper stand-up job comprehensively across the board the program. you know, from the time you have to the level of the network of doctors and specialists cians, that specialize in pediatric is m, pretty much everybody on board. i give that to the leadership of of virginia. one thing that i think is important to mention, is that as we try to bring remedy to our overall healthcare system, i it is very critical that if we have any childhood wellness,r talk about it's best to get it straight in the very beginning. to basically g
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snowball into a heavier burden for healthcare system if we attack it on the front end. virginia is like number one, you it comes down to being able to administrate that rogram efficiently and organized as it does. host: mark, thank you for sharing your story. fromdo you want to pick up that? guest: important to this and on edicaid is the focusing on long-term programs and a lot of them have picked this up largely ecause they are talking about the moany they get from the federal government, not having of money or ount not having renew set of programs canmade a few worried about we plan our budgets across, they want to plan the budget across years, six-year plans for wellness, say, look fwe want to children, covered under we want to grab it years, identify maybe
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children at highest risk for health issues and see if we can get them well over time. what they need years, identify children at highest is budget five-year or ur more extension of the program, right now a lot of them have said, we are putting the breaks on some programs, might have to programs eakos concerned where money we are getting from washington. them, how doern for we plan ahead for budgets? beingt this money -- that said a lot of states, virginia, texas is a good example, just money is coming and soldiering on, waiting for washington to act and they are they will. host: are they assuming they will be paid back for what they of pocket as they are waiting for the reauthorization to finish when it does finish? guest: yeah, the money will be recognized through here. using is not -- it is federal money, run-over funds. states get their own money, we will see change. a lot of states, arizona included, arizona in the past,
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they have laws on the books here here if the federal government stops giving them money, they will shut the program down. ago, ppened a few years arizona shut the chip program down when there was a lapse in has ramifications. a lot of states say we cannot one multi billion dollar hit our budget, we have other fund, roads, s to police to pay. chip is important to them, they money for purposes into their funds. they will be hoping this fund will be setback up, but they do not want to be here. hey were hoping this money would have come in july. june tdid not happen. in harlingen, texas, line for independents. go ahead. good morning, c-span. i'm glad you are covering this. population, especially kids, use chip. it is very important. curious to know however,
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and i don't want this to come cross the wrong way like i'm not caring and i know preventative care is very money is, but how much undocumented or prenatal care and potentially c-section, that type of thing? because i am in healthcare, i worked in indiggent clinic, i would see 12 to 15 a day, all undocumented and all get thanksgiving care. citizens are hearing, we don't have enough money, the budget is running out, you have healthcare, you don't buy healthcare, you will be penalized, this will happen, will happen. so i foresee some issues there, the at are they doing in law, can you traesz that? the only way the benefit could exercised, the laws don't seem to be coming together well. thanks for the question
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and call. guest: there are a lot of that ers here focusing on issue. it is a thorny one, one when affordablegether the care act, they had to discuss about how the benefits come subsidies are rolled out and it was a direct decision to say, we want to make their benefits, get benefits and we will check lot of the look out at whether or not these people on the back end of this. the e are verified through healthcare.gov, or their nsurance markets, but it is a lot of benefit. this way they make sure people get coverd and they come back to push back on the verification side of this. mean, when much, i this law was rolled out, the focus was on coverage and covered s many people as possible, make sure people got benefits, got care and then something they sort
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of said, we can go back and do a lot of verification. it is very deliberate point on there, part -- pushback on it years.e i know when the house passed its and dable care act, repeal replace plan, there was a big republicansa lot of aid, we want to get partnered, make sure none of the tax credits are going to anyone people who are documented americans and there has been a discussion about that. the law itself is not ruled out, it is coverage first. that is the focus and largely make sure people get insurance coverage they need. question off twitter, what age are you covered to if you are enrolled in chip? guest: i believe it is 18, as 18, you you are under get chip. states define this themselves, parents match , income levels.
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host: darrell, in preston, missouri, line for independents, good morning. caller: good morning, john. think the program should be totally abolished, especially in medicaid that took for everyone, like my brother lives in new mexico, the whole is on medicaid, why should they get chip? anybody on't think needs it. they can pay their own medical have. like we always and maybe they ought to forego a that costs $750 52-inch skoocreen t.v. chip was created to cover a lot of children, children in the children who sort of idea was they don't have experience. states that did take the medicaid money, got to use part of it for chip. states combine their
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programs, so chip the idea is to phase out chip over time so that states will be and they takestem care of all of the people without health insurance who insurance, who need government-subsidized program, or chip, the id idea was to grab them all into one pool. that did of reasons, not work out, largely across the country, a lot of states didn't programs n. a lot of ways, yes, medicaid that.am, accomplished chip is really one of the more popular programs in the country, especially for public health insurance program. it enjoys a lot of support, of great success stories about, you know, get in do a lot better. a lot of focus and studies do particularly that children within chip do better, they go get better re,
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dental care tworks out better for us. people, when they run the numbers, it is cost-effective to young sodren insurance they have health and care they need. time for one or two more calls, special line for chip 202-783-2003. south n greenville, carolina, an independent, good morning. caller: good morning. caller snu like the last said and ron paul always churches, people who volunteer, donate money, it unconstitutial for pay for be forced to products or services and taxation and theft. were to add up medium household in america is $50,000 after whole career at a job that is literally 1.25 million government steals from you via taxation.
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of le could take care themselves with that money, edindicates their own children, security.r own private bottom line, the pharmaceutical crooked, very ry corrupt. you have one out of five amphetamines, they committing suicide, serious health issues with the drugs they are forcing on the children. host: shawn, take the point, running out of time. livingston, new jersey. good morning. caller: good morning. i m truly, truly sad when hear a gentleman like just talking before and the woman before. on you. you christians, are you really christians? it just disturbs me to no end to who are put in situations they have no control illnesses, they
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get cancer, do you forget they get diabetes? heart forget they get conditions? what is wrong with you? oh, no, you are only concerned are not voting yet, god will condemn you they are born, they are -- go die. josephine, in new jersey. schedule aheadhe for chip, is there anything on side lendar on the senate and how much time does that give the two sides to come back up with finalcome plan to send to the president? guest: no schedule so far on the senate side. a lot of people are uneasy about where they are here. idea, i think a lot of people, the discussion is likely chance nto the -- good you will run end of the year in federal spending package. has not been eager to put stand-alone health bills on the floor. not mcconnell does not --
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sure he is going to do that often this year. -- bipartisan support, but it is probably pretty likely t will end up in federal spending bill. it will make states uneasy, once see it there, i don't becoming a problem, i don't see it being a poison pill as long offset are more bipartisan, that is a big mystery here. keeping close to the vest more so than the house. find that out next >> the house ways and means committee today. the committee could spend several days this week on the bill and gop leaders hope to have the vote of the full house later this month. the committee is meeting shortly at noon eastern time. you can watch that live on c-span2. we have legislation posted on c-span.org/congress.
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you can read all 429 pages of the republican tax proposal. >> tuesday is election day with key governors races in new jersey and virginia. watch live coverage of victory and concession speeches from both races on the c-span networks. candidates in new jersey are bill murphy and concord on oh. in virginia, and gillespie and democratic ralph northam. watch live on c-span and c-span.org and listen live on the free c-span radio app. the c-span bus is traveling across the country on our 50 capital store. we recently stopped in jefferson, city -- jefferson city, missouri. i am concerned about foreign policy. we have had a big change in administration. it is a little bit different than the last year or eight years, rather.
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hopefully, we can continue to go smoothly. it has been a little rocky at the start. c-span helps keep me up-to-date. concerned about women's health care. it seems like it is always under attack. i think in order for women to be truly equal, we need to have free control of our bodies. c-span . >> we need people to be able to contribute to local society, and to help serve others. one way you can do that is by having a really, really good job. that is something i would like to see from the state of missouri. try tould like to see as help more of those that are the neediest in our communities. we have a project homeless connect. we have several other different significant events in our community. we are trying to make an impact.
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if that could be done statewide, i think it would make our state models for thee nation. and i would love to see that. >> my issue is we need more era.rs of the world war ii i am a little on the edge of that. i just thought -- i've been listening to when center chill in visiting his museum over in fulton, missouri. the people of the 40's just did some wonderful things. >> voices from the state on c-span. thethe new york times president trump in asia with a campaign style rally on sunday with ari

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