-- susan ferrechio, the chief congreszional correspondent, the viewer, as well. susan ferrechio, what was leadership andse the ways and means committee leadership to the senate tax bill yesterday that was

unveiled? guest: depend morning. it was interesting because this chamber has been working agether loosely for months on tax plan, as well as in consultation with officials from the white house because they be too far apart overall, but there are fundamental differences between bills and i think the ne that will perhaps end up changing because there is a lot of disagreement over it is the corporate tax break. i think republicans in both chambers want to lower the rate level, the agreed upon you see in both plans. on the house side, corporate tax reduced immediately, beginning january 2018, whereas until 2019.delays the senate bill does this in money in reate more the treasury, more offsets. that, you reduce money coming into the treasury, that is part of the reason they do it. they consider

that to be gimmickery and the corporate tax rate will spur growth in economic growth overall. so my thought initially on this lawmakers g to house when we learned of the plan, is they feel corporate tax rate happen immediately or faster than in the senate bill. lawmakers, to senate when they first came out of the briefing yesterday morning, them the tax plan, many of told me the same thing, that they want the corporate tax rate happen sooner and they're oping that can be accomplished somehow by playing around with the tax plan and to reduce costs elsewhere. is my initial perception from talking to lawmakers they left townre for the veteran's day holiday. susan ferrechio, what are you hearing about the vote? do house republicans have the votes? have the republicans

votes? guest: that's a good question. know, these things can be tricky because there are members lose fornd members who their districts in this tax lan, right now the people that may not vote for the house bill are republicans from wealthier and higher taxed districts. many of them have gone on the record already to say they can't support the plan because their constituents would be paying ore because tax rates go up slightly for some joint filers property tax the deduction changes, mortgage interest tax deduction changes and the elimination of state and local tax deductions overall in the house bill. do not these lawmakers constitute enough of a faction the house. bill in i think the majority of members, conservative big factions who can cause problems when the house is trying to pass ills with republicans only,

they appear to be on board with this right now. my initial thought, it's in good house next week going forward with the exception lawmakers from the higher tax districts, who at appear to don't constitute enough of a faction to prevent the bill from passing. host: we talked about senator david perdue of georgia yesterday, former fortune 500 c.e.o., he has the president's relying on sident him for tax reform and he told us in the newsmakers interview, believes they have 51-52 republicans in the senate. reach 50, you could see up to six democrats voting yes.us and susan ferrechio, what do you think? well, that's really an outstanding question here. what will democrats do. the democrats we have our eye on, are democrats up for states ion next year in

won by president trump in 2016, we call them red state democrats in the senate. none of them committed to voting for this tax plan. talked to many of them individually and they aopposed o bill, f what is in the including local and state tax deductions, and i think what it down to greta, whether they calculate it will benefit f. they stituents determine by looking at details of the bill, there will be a lot of avings for majority constituents, it may be difficult for democrats in the bill,s to vote against the however, that is not a guarantee, none of them committed to doing it, the resident has gone through with outreach for democrats who have talked to the president about and say n cooperation could lead to collaboration. but there is no real connection there, other than these loose talks that they're aving on capitol hill occasionally between white house administrators and key democrats. think that but i

senator perdue brings up a good for , it may be hard red-state democrats to vote against a tax plan that benefits th constituents if they calculate it to turn out that way. with susan g ferrechio, chief congressional reporter with the washington xaminer, here to take your questions and comments about the legislative agend a. tax reform can call ic, but you on other public policy issues, as well. democrats, 202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001. 202-748-8002.nts, call in now, we'll get to your in a minute. susan ferrechio, you wrote a weaver, long with al g.o.p. election route haunts tax reform push. way?at guest: it was pretty new esting, the results in jersey and virginia. less so the governor's races, races that vidual

knocked out a lot of local in the suburbs. the suburbs are where the state deductions are very popular and of course, hose are eliminated in the house bill. it had a lot of lawmakers talking on capitol hill about that on their re-election prospects in 2018, popular.eductions are the tax bill overall, would lower rates, but it does get rid so-called loopholes or things people use to pay fewer taxes. has a lot of lawmakers on capitol hill nervous about how that will look constituents will think of it and how it will impact their election prospects next year. they certainly, i think, were -- elt warned by what happened on tuesday, with these big wipe-outs with local elections in i think particularly virginia, where you saw the nearly flip ture

from very strongly republican to now just a bare republican majority. a day there, wasn't uite sure majority hung in the balance. so lawmakers are paying attention to this, they always post-election contests don't really mean anything, especially in states that have blue, but they do pay attention to them and i think the impact wary of of what tax reform will do for constituents.al the interesting thing about this bill, more than most that i've capitol hill is the way lawmakers are talking about it will impactve their constituents. they are going through constituent property rates, tax rates, they want to going house by house to see whether people are oing to win or lose from the tax plan and that is how they decide whether they will support it or not.

and they're being very careful about it and the republican the rship intends that in end, the vast majority of onstituents will benefit from this plan. and they're counting on that, that is going to make or break makes it not it through congress. host: susan ferrechio, the other story you have from earlier this push for erve tiatives obamacare mandate in the tax bill. what do they want to include and leadership responding? guest: well, persistent theme now, is there a way to repeal the individual mandate. on't forget, they attempted to repeal and replace healthcare law earlier this year and weren't able to do it. a quest to get it done one way or the other. here they would have an done with to get it just 51 votes, circumventing filibuster that would block it. it would create $400 billion in would be a which

help to maybe eliminate some of thatther loophole closures are unpopular. there is chatter on capitol hill way to put this in, i think republicans are tempted by it, i think they are, talked about it, the president encouraged it, key leaders on the hill are it.cussing but, i think they're on the ence because it also has the potential to -- for the entire doing there may be unease that among senators who they need in the senate to pass the tax bill. moderate senator. so i know there is discussion, do i think they are tempted by it? do, but i don't see a commitment to do it. it's not off the table. talking to were republican leaders yesterday afternoon before they left town, about, still talking they won't rule it out and i is something we need to keep our eye on when the mark up comes on the senate and house doesn't make it

into the house passed bill, pass the house next week? it could come later on, both chambers will probably have to work on a r and compromise bill since each chamber is likely to pass a plan.rent tax host: we'll see what the viewers have to say. sarasota, you're up first, mary. of er: i really think most the public supports doing away and local tax deduction as way to compel say new york and howfornia to really look at their tax money is spent. federal f receiving deduction for state and local taxes, they'll have to take a how the state and all county necessary their state are money.y using their it will hit them in the pocket pay and compel them to

attention to how their money is being used. have is point that i that according to the u.s. 27% the adultbout of our country is college educated, all the way degree to ates professional degrees, doctors why should now loansty subsidize student for quite a minority? when we really need skilled tradesmen training in this people to be ed job ready and to make a decent iving, yet everything has been focused on college education. paying n tell you from for my own children, every penny to go through school get through. classmates use

student loan money without any are that they were going to have to pay it back. got went shopping, they spray tans, got their nails done, you know, this is not taxpayers should subsidize. host: all right, mary, susan ferrechio. guest: well, two interesting topics, both about deductions. there is definitely a fight on capitol hill amongst lawmakers bout the state and local tax deductions. you have lawmakers from states like texas and florida, who say, why are we subsidizing state and high tax deductions for tax states? why are we doing that? the high eople from tax states who feel they are doing the subsidizing because money back into the federal government, which rest istribute it to the of the country. you have sort of quarrel going on amongst lawmakers over who is

paying more and who is owed more and i think the state and local ax deduction is the heart of that right now. and they are in the house people who don't like the state and local tax deduction, you have places like york, new jersey, california, pennsylvania, where taxes and the r rest of the congress is saying, exactly the argument the caller is that why ich don't they take it up with their own governments. tax rates.igh that appears to be where the debate is headed right now on hill.ol go back to the second point that the caller was making about the idual deductions and fight over that. it certainly has brought up really the what government should subsidize. people feel angry about the deduction, terest they believe it favors the high everybody ers over else. there are people who do not favor these other individual deductions and think

there should be fewer of them. loan, the student other could be anything, the child tax credit, anything where like why are we subsidizing any of this. issue.t is part of the the republicans have argued, why don't we lower rates and get rid deductions, and then when you calculate taxes, keep ore of your money up front rather than getting it back through the deduction process. so it is really brought up that debate on capitol hill and you really see lawmakers struggle withing how to deal this. everyone has their pet deduction they are trying to save. you know, , deductions that are taken out in restored in e been the senate, among them the student interest deduction that about, er was talking it's back in the senate, hasn't been taken out in the house. nother one is medical expense deduction, which is gone in the house, restored in the senate. house yesterday voted to

restore the credit for those who up to $13,500 per adopted child. restored. nd it is because people are attached to deductions and favor them or don't favor them and on capitol g fight hill over them, not clear what will make it out in the end. beginning of process, it's churning through the house now and beginning its a lot in the senate and of the work may ultimately doors and nd closed house and senate are working out that final deal and you may see termsore change necessary of which deductions make it in or out. rose waterbury, connecticut, democrat. can you hear me okay? host: i can. caller: okay, i'm just calling i am very unhappy with the current administration and to be quite cruel.

and even the tax plan itself, to take away medical write-offs, it cruel.seems and they are replacing it with, are makingeople that billions and billions of authorize, they're going to get cuts, that seems very, very cruel. and of course, a big concern of mine mine, we seem to be headed for world war iii at our own accord, pushing this. i think it is really important pparents to nd grand children and grandchildren will have to fight if we have world war iii. it is very serious. concerned. those are my concerns. write-offs and the tax plan just is another angle of cruelty, in my opinion.

host: okay, rose, susan ferrechio. what the caller might be talking about is the state tax, it would choose always a point of contention on capitol hill between republicans democrats, democrats want to preserve the estate tax, whereas republicans want to get rid of it. in this case, you see two house and the he senate, the house phases out the raises cap, the senate keeps the estate tax, money coming g into the treasury. i happen to think that estate going to stay in and because they need revenue, i think two, because that republicans are hearing the entiment of callers like the one we just listened to. i feel like they tonight want his to be a tax cut for the wealthy. know that the priority of

republicans writing this plan in both chamber system make sure this is tax cut for the middle don't want a whiff of this benefiting the wealthy expense of the middle class. i think you will see all efforts to prevent tax plan from looking way. i think overall, people on the ends of income earners will see savings. those who are paying more are oing to be higher income earners and i think the estate tax will probably stay in, at point, if i had to guess, byause mostly it was left in the senate. they're going to have more say process, they have smaller majority, harder to get through the senate, they need they areuence over it, the tougher chamber to get this thing passed. that is how it will be addressed, preserve the tax

cap on how much, end up preserving cap on who will still be in process ise time the over. host: brenda in chi co, republican. far as judge is concerned, they can corroborate make up a story to fit the coberation, that would be pretty easy for them to do. as far as the estate tax is concerned, that takes away farms and then agri business moves in with all their want less and if you pesticides, you need to let farms keep their host: okay, brenda. comments on the judge and what is political fall-out, if any, for republicans

and their agenda. well, you know, there is ow a threat they could lose another seat, so that is terrible for the republicans because they are barely scraping their 52 seats in the senate. they were not able to pass a majoritye bill because wasn't big enough. they need more padding so they few people and still pass things f. they in fact lose senate seat from pam bam, they ofl be down to bare majority 51 votes, which means they can nly lose one vote on any given g.o.p. majority measure, which many, so that's a problem for them and i think there is a real fear amongst could ben leaders this political disaster for them. they have called on roy moore to, if allegations are true, for him to step aside. an moore was never

establishment pick. he did not have full backing by he republicans and the senate to begin with. and he won his primary. trump endorsed luther strange, the hand-picked replacement for jeff sessions he left the senate to become attorney general. roy moore is claiming that the allegations are not true. the way it works in the state, his name will remain on the ballot. republicans are in a tough spot right now. candidate s is the and they don't like it and it is clear, it is a red state, not clear what happen fist he fate of t will be the his seat in the senate and i think it's a real problem for right now and with a lot of uncertainty at this moment about will happen. in general, with the seat.

area, notomething, red clear that is going to happen, ut it certainly hits senate very hard yesterday. this happened when they were all in the tax briefing and they out of that tax briefing and all of us reporters are aiting with the news of this breaking story and within, you all 20 minutes they had it of read it and digested and came out to talk to reporters, which is unusual, that, they r does thought if allegations were true that he should step aside. i think there are some conservatives who are angry of the story ng and in feeling that it was prevent here to republicans from winning or winning.oy moore from so it really created a big explosion on capitol hill

and i think republicans on the hill are very distraught over it at this lot of uncertainty about the seat. ridgecrest.in an independent, you are on with susan ferrechio, of the examiner.n caller: good morning, america. and good morning, greta. on air.tiest journalist host: thank you, mike, your question or comment? i have three very important questions for susan and the examiner. but, you know taxes for us out in the far west is a mute point. california is lost, the federal 1282 dollars for four-member family is a joke. in two months chases down work for my in racting business california in the slow economy. was, i how great this almost fell out of my truck. hat we do, 1282 dollars, that

is a joke. moonbeam is raising taxes offset the to federal taxes, so you know, in states, it doesn't matter, governors will raise take more money from you. thisnow, on the radio show 7:00, he will t expose that the house of congress is 98% corrupt. and in the pockets of wall street. my split question. number one, are the democrats efforts to7:00, he will expose that the house of congress lean toward socialism? in the republicans corrupt efforts to lean toward facism is funding the soros black hood protest? host: okay, susan ferrechio, his do you make of question? guest: well, there are people tax ng about the amount of avings, whether the amount of

nearly 1200 for a family of four aking $59,000, when that amounts to much for people. and in a lot of the country, it does. it does amount to certainly expensive is a very to live and it does have very high taxes. so you're right, those states may not benefit as much and i that that is an argument is happening on to live and it very high winners and losers in this thing. the hill right now about the they try to write a bill that had all winners, but you can't because if you cut taxes one place, you need to find the elsewhere or else the deficit may grow too big, which lso damages the economy and eventually hurts everybody. trying to find delicate balance and this is the number the house came up with savings and i think the caller is talking about

people around he country may feel, as well, pending where you live, where it is very expensive or property taxes are high and the deduction will hurt you or where your mortgage interest is pretty high costscause of the housing and now you're going to lose money on that under the house plan. be a winner under this thing. oftentimes in congress it's about the math on how you pass legislation. how to get things through with in votes in the house and this case 51 votes in the senate and they build legislation turn intoes t legislation that can just win the right amount of votes and deal s where a lot of making comes in and that is at rate, make is tax sure middle income americans will benefit at least most of them. out, it mayr points not be enough for everybody and other in some cases,

people may end up paying more. host: let's get a couple calls michigan, republican. bob, good morning. not a happy , i'm republican, those republicans in congress are a disgrace, i mean, god, that republican bill in the senate looks like something would write. riculous.d host: why do you say it looks like something the democrats write? caller: keep the estate tax, they certainly would, they are putting off bringing the money for a couple hore years. you know what, we're not in they in a couple years, will get rid of that. this is craziness, we have power now, use it. don't like e guys donald trump and i don't think they like be nothing power. be ink they would prefer to in the minority. nd i'm sick of this identity politics business. host: bob, i want susan ferrechio to jump in, what do bob's comments?

guest: well, he sounds like some embers on capitol hill, there has been more divide among populous republicans who say more awmakers should move aggressively on this tax plan cuts should be no delay in and they should rely on economic rowth to bring money to the treasury to allay fear that debt ill get much bigger, through aggressive tax cuts, including the estate tax, which, you know, does affect family farms, family-owned businesses and not just for the rich, however, it benefit the rich. and there are a lot of republicans who are very angry particularly ce, in the senate, where they have a often require nd 60 votes in the house democrats which most legislation, stalls a lot of things. they would like the senate to, the green ey have light, which is the power of

majority in entire congress and white house, they should be moving faster and more have sively, while they the power. and they are not moving aggressively enough and will knows, back in the minority and then democrats will they will use the power more aggressively than republicans are doing now. a hot debate on capitol hill and caller is reflecting a people want the senate, for example, to get rid of the filibuster rule so that all pass with only 51 votes and not 60 votes. of discussion in the house, they would like the senate to to that. of bills, to lot move forward a republican agenda, the isn't able to pass because of democrat's use of the filibuster. so, you know, that's always under discussion. see much changing this ongress, but it's certainly

under discussion and it's part some populous tone of republicans in the house and some in the senate, as well. to john in chantilly. caller: thank you for taking my call, i want to say to susan, i countrys and ier see when people pay taxes how they improve their country. i know,the only country people want good service, they don't want to pay for it. line, i have my own house, i get something back my y year fthat goes to community and i see roads being changed, i don't mind getting this money at all. i can do my own, i get $1000 back every year, but bottom line is this, people calling, complaining about the congress. 40% republican and a 40% democrat, and people who involve thing, they sit out and start complaining. f you don't vote and don't

engage politics of the country, you will end up something like want to say st something about alabama, the man running the senate. mitch mcconnell has how siness to tell our -- they elect their representatives, i think this is attack about is people who don't like that guy. host: thanks, john. susan ferrechio. uest: well, you know, the tax debate is kind of never-ending on capitol hill, how much you you d pay and how much, know, you should keep in your own pocket. different philosophies, each party argues. democrats believe that you need to pay more into the system, so government can more for you along the way m terms of services. people arly in helping who may need more help. the poor and the disabled and just need more

help. whereas on the republican side, hey think that individuals should make the choice about what to do with their own money and keep more of their own of governings sort philosophy and you see that reflected in the tax bill, where you to keep more money and letting ates you keep more up front rather than having to use deductions to of it. some again, it is two different philosophies, it is one reason you are seeing this bill so far on capitol hill have before it.icans because the divide is pretty big how each party approaches taxes. definitely believe that more government is needed coming and more money in, they consider it an nvestment, call it investment via infrastructure investment

would create jobs through programs or education through medicine funding, through government funding, whereas republicans want the individual to be more in charge keep more money and be more personally responsible, two different philosophies have ople who vote different philosophies, as well, reflected in how they vote and i that is why on capitol hill right now, you are bipartisanship in tax reform, one of those things i two truly divides the parties. host: viewer consist follow this debate and susan ferrechio's to rting if you go washington examiner.comgto twitter at susan ferrechio, congressional correspondent. susan ferrechio, thank you and the rest of your team at the examiner for letting c-span come to your news room this morning and chat with you all do there in your reporting. thank you very much.

much, thank you very greta. host: we're going to spend the today's "washington journal" in open phones, where we started this morning. what is on your mind with any political issue, call in about tax cuts, that is what we've discussing for the last half-hour, political issues, campaign news, health care, all the table this morning. democrats, 202-748-8000. 202-748-8001. 202-748-8002.ts, go to twitter or facebook.com/c-span, we'll get your thoughts after we hear from at ker ryan from yesterday his weekly news conference, where he talked about the house is blican tax bill and this what he had to say about how it class. the middle speaker ryan: we haven't had 3% economy in a decade. you know what happens to country that grows so slowly? standardsflat, living

get flat, economic anxiety and insecurity goes up. is happening in this country today. you wonder why we have anxiety and polarization in america? i would argue when people are really worried about whether the table t food on or pay the energy bill next week, next month, that is a real problem in america. purpose of this legislation is focused on not giving highest earners biggest tax breaks, the purpose on this legislation is giving middle a break.x families and you got to remember, half the country is living paycheck a surveyck, i just saw that said a third of americans eel $400 away from a financial crisis in their family. hat's who needs relief in this country. by the way, when you get tax rates down on businesses as bill as dropping in the we're proposing, that is good for everybody. ood for jobs, good for wages, good for economic growth and so, appropriations bill,

this is an economic growth bill, middle income fairness bill, which is, yeah, if you have an accountant and can navigate loopholes, all these deductions and loopholes, deal.n get a good why do we want to have a tax code that is so rigged? code that is a tax simple and easy and fair? that's what we're trying to accomplish. at the say, look analysis, tpc, jct or tax the ation, they tell you average families in all income cut.s see a tax about the n talking house g.o.p. tax plan, their version differs from the senate, "wall street journal" this morning editorial tax reform momentum, the senate on the house on the top rate and businesses. editorial t journal" writing the senate approach is simpler and businesses with tax rate can op

write off more income this, should win support from the federation of independent business whose businesses are often small enterprise. 9% bracket could get nfib endorsement. tax rateg structure of means that congress could some ay consider lowering top rate on individuals for more growth. senate bill's individual reform than the and worse house version, they write, better in that cuts the top rate a little to from 38.6% on income of $500,000 for single filer. bill's ves house obnoxious bubble rate of 35.6 earners, that gh is "wall street journal" editorial board with their opinion this morning. tax are your thoughts on reform or other legislative item? victor in florida, republican, victor, open phones, you're up first, good morning.

caller: good morning. would like to see americans for tax fairness come on explain to the public that the effective tax corporations is not the highest in the world, it's half, they vary nlths taxes now and this tax tax rates to big the corporations and for the very wealthy and what is left the poor and to the middle class, it is going to hurt medicare, going to herred going to hurt students and it's going to hurt people ithout money and without lobbyists. the biggest problem we have in this country is lobbyists buy our congress, with their 14% approval rating and get them to come on television and lie about a plan nothing, but atrocious. that is my comment. host: victor, have you been debate, mark up in the house and ways committee and what they plan to do next week

senate finance committee, are you follow thanksgiving? caller: yes, i am. to n see very -- i go americans for tax fairness and they will tell you the truth stuff a lot of this coming out of congress is nothing, but misinformation. host: okay. bottom, helps s the top. host: for others that want to watch go to c-span.org, you can schedule there, we covered this week's mark up in website.means on our charles in oakland, new jersey, independent. hi, charles. caller: hello. my comment is that i'm disgusted ith the fact that the politicians apparently think we're really stupid. taxes, e not cutting our they are moving them. they are -- when you add 1.5 to the debt, you're not cutting taxes, you're moving them down the road. me, i'm old enough to remember back when there was spendargument about taxes liberals and we ended up with conservatives who increased

astronomical by numbers by just simply moving taxes. reagan moved 1.5 trillion the road ands down he's praised as a great tax cutter, but we ended up having up that money down the road. they are doing this over and over again and people have to that p and understand you're not going to get some $100 worth of unit by paying their.50 for it. fabian, democrat, what is on your mind? caller: i'm an independent. okay. caller: hi. i am a -- i'm an accountant and corporate tax rate, the previous two callers are they do not pay a 35% tax rate. ost of the big -- i've worked for a big company, i cannot say who i worked for, we pay 0% at year.nd of the we get back $2 million after

everything. people in the middle class, ike me, when we lose our mortgage tax credit, we lose our interest on our student loans for my son and my niece and nephew, we lose that, we don't gain any money we lose everything that we get from these tax cuts, things that we get. i wish, like victor and the they us caller, would please stop lying to the people. getsaverage big corporation 14% or lower. i am an accountant and i know this. sady, you might be interested in the "new york piece, bigs analysis windfalls likely to skip the middle class and ben castleman much is rd report this clear, either version of the bill, talking about the house epublican and house senate bills, would be bad for residents of high tax, sade there, high-cost states, high-tax, high-cost

states, both bills would eliminate deduction for state and local sales tax, not a big in low-tax states such as florida and texas, but otentially huge difference in high-state california and new york. the senate bill would go further deduction for state and local property taxes, that would be especially hard on jersey, that s new have high housing cost and rely eavily on property taxes to fund their government. republican, orida, in open phones. caller: good. stuff they're talking about, we could get more as much tax if it wasn't for the unions and the democrats, they got everything donald receives. the '50s and '60s, was our best years. hour.working for $2 an i had more then than i got now. nd these people that said

minimum wage, minimum wage was made to get a start, never made f. we could ing on get business people a little bit they would bring more jobs back to this country. e wouldn't have to pay as much taxes, everybody would be working, we wouldn't need all foreigners, ns and immigrants coming in taking our jobs because we got too many welfare that don't want to work. democrats say, yeah, they want to work. work, they want to can't afford to work. host: how do you know? that?o you know caller: because i live amongst a whole bunch of them. host: you talk to them and you observe? can see it. there are people that i know that is on welfare that got two kids, two wo vehicles, snowmobiles, four and everything. host: carol, dalton, georgia, democrats. caller: yes, i want to talk regarding ax reform

he amount they're taking away from medicare and medicaid. to affect the ng enior citizens that been drawing this for years? them?hat not hurt host: carol, i don't know the can r to that, but if you search that on the web, you ight find in the legislation itself, c-span.org has put the legislation up on our website. pages, so there is a lot to go through there, know the answer to your question. tony in montgomery. in los angeles, a republican. hi, freddy. the problem art of is the tax code is thousands upon thousands upon thousands of rules and regulation, no one really knows. ridiculous.

supposed to have a tax code like that. next comment. tell you, a thousand things about the tax code, but i constantly and don't hear it the other way. what is wrong, if it is true, i the news media, i don't believe the "new york times," you said conservative wall street journal," you didn't say liberal "new york times." whether it is true, this will help rich people. what is wrong with helping people that are successful? we hate successful people so much? horribly have to tax successful people who work hard and to some degree, achieve america?n if we're going to have a fair tax code, don't punish people hard and provide jobs for other people who have successful businesses. bedrockful businesses is of american prosperity and has een since the inception of our country. stop hating people because of success. problem, envy he

is. we should have a flat tax. that won't happen, of course, everyone is so envious. anyway, if we're going to have success, don't punish don't punish hard work. host: all right, freddy, tony in alabama.y, tony, what is on your mind? caller: yes, i have two comments. taking my call. the rich has been getting cut 25 or 30 years, hiding money overseas and if you taxes, they not going to bring it back no way. question.econd i hear all these people talking about immigrants. immigrants, lks are too. they came here and claimed they discovered america. what we going to do with them? take all of them and send them back to plymouth rock? that is my comment. thank you. host: tony, we mentioned asia dent trump is on his trip and yesterday was in chien ahe went on to vietnam to attend

the asia-pacific economic countryion sum nit this o. your screen is the family photo and some are wonder figure resident trump would don the traditional jacket the other leaders wear. you can see him there. like other so, presidents have done in the past, the family photo at the ap leadership summit "u.s.a. today," he told the other leaders, i will always put america first, expect all of you in this room to put your countries first. the president attending the ap vietnam and we gallon to michael in illinois. hi, michael. thank you for taking my call. the taxes are bad, richer will richer, we will take a beating as middle class. the story of roy moore, 22

out against ome this and it sounds like it probably is true, they do their sure he reporters, i'm they didn't want to attack this guy without the real facts. he problem is, what you got going, calling out this guy with other republicans, you are ilia to save a senate seat. you are saying tis okay if you as you ldren, as long keep our senate seat, that to me the most atrocious ti-- politician can be around. auditor of the alabama state is okay, jesus and mary, mary was 14 years old. wrong with these people's thinking? these people don't need to get thrown out of government and be or have backgrounds checked, i don't know. michael. right, caller: calling out pedophilia, to save a senate seat. host: lynn --

accountant, just twists and how money turns on the tax plan. healthcare ike the plan. if they were doing the right it g, it would be easy and would seem easy, so i mean, estate taxk that the applies to funds that the though was nodding as that is true, they keep looking for maybe more than one -- in going to be lost to a family pause of estate taxes. you know, whether or not my personal taxes would go up and and i'm very middle class in new york, there are away the student loan deduction and, you know, say is not fair to allow kids to go to school and become members of society, waltonis fair to let the

family keep $50 billion in where ion to generation the kid, none of the kids or of the s, all part aristocracy have to go to school for one day in order to keep all inherited and ey work their lives for. ost: george in sterling, virginia, independent. hi, george. caller: good morning. talking about tax reform, i'm 66 years old and i can't understand people can still proliferate the untruth that trickle down creates jobs and brings money into the united states. i just can't find data that position.hat host: okay, samantha in leesburg, virginia, line for

democrats. hi, samantha, a few minutes left in open phones, what is on your mind? want to say two things. number one, i am a democrat, but in the top 1% of this country. i find what the republicans are appalling. first of all, when they tried to away.people's health care secondly, it makes no sense to caller who is e saying people, why are people wealthy people? it is not people hate wealthy successful people, it does not make sense the walton family should get a tax cut when employees $8 an hour. they don't even earn enough to ay for their own health care, so it has to be subsidized by the government. think that ybody these billionaires deserve a tax cut? just, what is shows me is -- but ublicans

republicans, all of the donors tax cut.g for this how is cutting the estate tax anybody who can't pay their bills from month to month? host: okay, i will leave it in more voices. alabama,in albertville, republican. you're next. caller: hi. the reason for our government is preserve and defend the united states of america. not to protect the globe. we spend so much money for health and food and everything away fromls taking it the people of the united states. biggest ne of the problems we have with our tax authorize. if i ran my household, like the runs their financial ituation, i would be in real

trouble. caller: comment on the alabama ace, i continuing is all made up and i believe that some of the emocrats, some of republica republicans -- roy moore stay in and i hope he stand fast and stand his ground and fight it. thank you for taking my call. host: bruce in chicago, republican. hi, bruce, you're on the air. caller: i was sitting there listening, number one, i don't know what people have against the people that pay taxes. taxes, i pay probably 50% demonizedome and i get and everything thinks because you made some money and i work that is i was lucky, how i made my money. peoplejust don't get why

are bitter about it, i mean, people create job when is they make money. also, that thing, that one fella pedophilet the record reflects -- they are not the american way. hollan host: okay, bertha in texas, for democrats what is on your mind? caller: alternative minimum tax. okay. caller: okay, on alternative minimum tax, this is the tax or wealthy ople people pay. t only benefits the wealthy people that can hire ccountants, lawyers and tax shelters so they do not pay their share of taxes. minimum tax is so that you can pay at least some taxes, is the purpose of the alternative minimum tax and they oing to do away with the alternative minimum tax so that zero althy people can pay

taxes. host: okay, bertha, more to come or all of you interested in taxes next week when the house is expected to vote on it. version, rk up your we'll be discussing more on the "washington journal" and our coverage continues on c-span.org. does it for today's program, thank you all for watching, enjoy the rest of your friday and your weekend. ♪ >> in order of veterans day many lawmakers are meeting with veterans today and over the weekend.

today is the 242nd birthday of the united states marine corps. members of congress took to twitter to wish the marine corps a happy birthday. here is what house speaker paul ryan had to say. whenever our nation needs you, your there. first, last, and always. to all marines and your families, thank you, semper fi. representatives are celebrating marines by spending time with them in northwest indiana. "thank you marines and happy birthday." sanford bishop wish them happy birthday and took pictures of members of the logistics base in albany, georgia. tomorrow in observance of veterans day, vice president ine pence will take part

a ceremony at the tool of the unknown soldier and will speak afterwards at the amphitheater. live coverage from arlington national cemetery begins at 11 a.m. eastern on c-span. the united ago states was at war in vietnam and this veterans day weekend, american history tv on c-span3 looks back with 48 hours of coverage, starting saturday at 8:00 eastern we are live at the national archives among the backdrop of helicopters. at 11:30 a.m. to 1 p.m. we are taking phone calls and tweets live with historians about the war in 1967. at 1 p.m. from the vietnam veterans memorial, a ceremony featuring remarks by chuck hagel and the desire -- and the designer. then on real america, a vietnam war special report. due to the enemies

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