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sexual misconduct. for the first half hour, your thoughts on roy moore, particularly if you believe him or his accusers. if you are alabama resident, -- post on twitter or facebook. if you go to the aol.com, that is a newspaper based out of alabama, take a look at news out of alabama, it has the story about yesterday's accusations that came forward saying that minutes before the new accuser came forward with allegations come his campaign issued a statement describing it as a witchhunt. the new accuser is the fifth woman to accuse more of having sexual or romantic account with

him when they were teens. moore campaign issued their response saying -- that is from the moore campaign. the story that broke yesterday. was on capitol hill where mitch mcconnell was asked about roy moore in light of these accusations. here is what he had to say. >> i think he should step aside. >> are you encouraging a write-in campaign? >> that is an option we are looking at. whether or not there's someone who could -- we will see.

>> versus someone to prove these are true in these situations. the believe these allegations to be true? >> i believe the women, yes. host: that was mitch mcconnell from yesterday. a look at cory gardner on monday who rested up his position on roy moore saying -- that all taking place yesterday in the first half hour of our program, your thoughts on this

matter, particularly if you believe a judge more or his -- judge moore or his accusers. joe in georgia. independent line. joe, i have been calling your great network for over 30 years. i think judge moore is innocent until proven guilty. the real problem is mitch mcconnell. he is not getting things done. he are to be replaced. i think these accusations against moore is -- nothing has been proven. i don't think he should drop out of the race. if i lived in alabama, i would vote for judge moore. ast: why is it more of

problem for mitch mcconnell? caller: we didn't get the health care thing past. the senate bill, we need tax cuts now, pedro. we need to cut taxes. i'm a big stock market guide. that will help the stock market. we must pass these. republicans were going to cut taxes. we must cut taxes. host: we are going to leave it there. john industry heights, maryland. surprised theally way this new -- not really surprised, the nation -- what is going on is coming through the pipe. and tryhappening here to discredit them because they are coming forth now. i believe the ladies because i find it difficult to believe that a woman is going to put herself out there and expose .hat happened to her

whether 35 of 40 years ago, it doesn't matter. the trauma comes back in your mind so i believe the women at what is happening here is going to come in thing in this country where if a lady make an accusation against a public figure, then they are going to try and discredit her credit rather than dealing with the allegations. this thing is eating ready to get really ugly for the people who call themselves christians to sit and listen at this stuff and don't have some type of moral compass with these guys is beyond cap retention. even starting with the president. host: flushing, new york. caller: good morning. but if you areze going to -- it is not about leaving the woman or man. -- this haso say

become politicized for me now? i'm sure that everybody would argue he should be for any office but we should give him the benefit of the doubt. why should i say i don't trust him? who am i to say that? politicians, both republicans and democrats are using this for the own election purpose. we are recognizing sexual allegations. we are doing a disservice for this harassment. for me, i am not going to buy any argument politician is telling me. if you go on that, george bush senior has to become to do. do you trust george bush? i am very much disappointed. host: news has a story this morning i look through texas senators in response. john cornyn who would chew his

endorsement. -- amonga rare public the gop leaders. rosemarie is next. michigan. hello. caller: good morning.

i don't think he should withdraw from running. if he wants to have anything done, we should have had it done with the president first. it seems like this election has really gone corrupt. [indiscernible] start whipping up some stuff. i just understand it. 75 years old and this is the lifetime,tion of my period, right up to the president of the united states. host: who do you believe more? caller: i believe him. host: why so? caller: 40 years, give me a break. you sit back until this guy is going to run for office. why didn't you get him when he was just a judge. now he wants to go to

government, now you want to go after him. there's somebody out there stirring the pot. host: allen is next and washington, d.c. caller: without a doubt, i mr. moore should have his day in court. system is innocent until proven guilty. hello? host: go ahead. caller: you are innocent until proven guilty. i don't know who to believe. the justices system needs to go forward. not this witchhunt which as decided to come after this man. people of alabama did step forward and then vote their conscience. host: maxwell in maryland.

good morning. caller: good morning. i wanted to talk about roy moore on the ladies that came out. i tend to believe roy moore before he had an interview with sean hannity. sean hannity asked him questions, do you deny having an affair with an underage girl? he said he cannot do that without the permission of the mom. he cannot even the night. that she could not even deny it. -- he could not even deny it. , he cannot even deny it. if you watch that show, everything he said was like, he did it.

[indiscernible] that is wrong. host: that is maxwell. this goes on at a story coming out yesterday about the former president, george h.w. bush. this was reported by the chicago tribune saying --

there is more reporting in the chicago tribune this morning. our first half hour before our first guest, your thoughts on roy moore and his accusers from oklahoma, democrats line. go ahead. caller: i think that guy is a pedophile, because he asked the girl's mother. i think you know better than that. asks a a guy like that parent to take a donor out, and you know he is in the wrong. that is all i've got. host: santa barbara, california. go ahead. caller: i think they should cut to the chaff and have all the and they willoore all take a lie detector test. and find a what is going on, we won't have to listen

to all of this back and forth. host: you think a lie detector test to settle people's opinions? caller: i think a lot of people believe steve wilco's. you have three or four accusers there and he is not, it will come out. host: aside from the lie detector test, is there one person you believe? believe it is unusual that all these things come out just before the guy is running for the selection. it is a little questionable. sudden -- i don't know. i think we could get it settled really easily. if moore would be willing to go on the sea wilco's show in the accusers wooden, that would settle the matter. host: about 15 minutes for the

segment. the attorney general will appear before the house judiciary committee today at a hearing that is scheduled to take place at 10:00. he might be questioned about a possible special counsel to take a look at actions by hillary clinton concerning uranium. they include on the website, a copy of the letter that was sent to bob goodlatte. here's the letter from the department of justice.

that is part of the letter you can find online through bob goodlatte judiciary committee. james, hello. caller: good morning. i have an issue with the timeline in this until i heard the reporting that he had

admitted that he got in touch with all the mothers and a new he was going out with them. a 30 year old man in a 14 euro girl, that doesn't add up. he was banned from the only mall. as far as the timeline and people waiting, people got to realize this meant was a position of authority. even at that point. imagine a 14-year-old girl being threatened by an attorney. i have no doubt in my mind he is a pedophile and should be in jail. host: massachusetts, we will hear next from michael. go ahead. caller: i just want to say, i think what about me-ism coming they see bill clinton did this 20 years ago, well louis c.k. did this a year ago. we have to accept a child molesters just seems crazy to

me. it is about the whole is she just came out now pretty was a systematic thing didn't think they could come out and say this happened to me because your entire lives were on the line. the fact that people are coming out and saying within the past year, me too, enough is enough, it makes sense this woman would come forward now. host: do you believe the women then? caller: definitely could with that many women coming forward, what do they have to gain? they have nothing. they are not looking to book deals. all they did was go on the record and say, yes, this happened. host: let's go to north carolina. mike, go ahead. caller: thank you for taking my call. i have a question to address. where is the due process? where is the theory of innocence until proven guilty?

his name was from the very start. i think it's a plot to justify the millions they spent against roy moore. they need to take this case to a special prosecutor. something smells fishy about this. , she probablys knows a million liars. i am saying there needs to be due process. something to make him resign. i hope he stands in their. this to conclusion. don't rush to judgment. give this man a day in court. host: on twitter, one viewer says --

if you want to make thoughts on twitter, that is how you do that. pages of the wall street journal ask a look at tweets that were recently sent by donald trump jr.. in connection with contact he made with wikileaks saying --

here is dennis in australia. independent line. caller: good morning. when they have had 40 years to complain and there's only four weeks out, i think is highly suspect. clients.t is no strong if he has committed an offense, that is not very good but have 40 years. host: tell us about interest in the story from australia. caller: i follow u.s. politics quite a bit and it is quite exciting. donald trump has a strong following in australia.

a lot of us are very pleased ofh the change administration to a republican administration. host: how are you watching us? throughfox television c-span. host: i don't know if that is the network. thank you for calling us. caller: fox is our cable provider. robert, he is in arizona. hypo. -- caller: i'm going to bore everybody with the truth and history of how this country was formed. take andd on violence,

on the time element. we talk about the time, how are you going to bring this guy up to trial and try him and say, he is running at the same time? at trial takes a long time. when you take stuff, you leave women pregnant and then you talk about, all these children cannot be aborted. this is very serious stuff. how about all the abuse? are we try to obtain civility? that is why we have government and that is why i believe in mandated voting. to the point -- caller: federally funded elections just equity fund wars. host: who do you believe? accusers. course, the why would anybody say anything. when a person is very powerful, they have all the attention, they have all the power and when

they abuse somebody, have to wait for the time element. it never gets to them. host: we will go to don in california. caller: i want to talk mainly this latest accuser of judge moore. her story doesn't just isn't possible. hit anyone who works at a restaurant knows that when a restaurant is open and when it is closing, the doctor area is not a lonely place. there is always someone having a smoke, watching something or dumping garbage. that would be the last place that he would drive up to try and pull anything on her. also, this woman your own admission, she said that her boyfriend at the time had a terrible temper. it could be that this guy beat her up and in order to explain her bruises, she made up this story. that is the story she has been sticking to all of these years.

also, lastly on this whole thing, all of these politicians pretending to be so upset at roy moore, we have a sitting senator menendez who is on trial for bribery. it included under age prostitutes and he is still sitting in the senate. this is just a bunch of stuff made up by people who don't like his politics. and they are not honest enough to say that. host: done mentioned senator bob menendez, a story coming out when comes to the jurors deciding on this, they cannot agree. this is quoting the juror --

next up is susan, mclean, virginia. caller: good morning. thank you so much.

i wanted to mention one thing about this situation that my 17-year-old high school son and i were talking about. as awful as this is, i am a woman and he loves his grandmother and he said that if anybody did anything like this, they should go to jail. our second amendment, the american constitution guarantees an individual to a right of a fair -- host: are you still there? i think you broke up. let's go to sherry, des moines. and the . caller: good morning. what i have got to say is i don't believe the women. number one, what parent is going to let their 14-year-old, 15, 16 go out with a 30 something-year-old man? i can't understand why all these women get up there with gloria and they read.

i wouldn't have to read the stuff that happened to me. i wouldn't have to sit there and read and cry and all of that. i would come out and say it. ajo, the democrats -- ajo, the democrats, they have sold their souls to satan. that is all of got to say. host: dylan from alexandria, are you there? -- i think are on people are applying the wrong standard here. innocent until proven guilty and something we give when we are taking somebody's rights. is for a privileged to be your senator. the whole idea of due process doesn't apply to him.

we as voters make a judgment based on everything that we know . forget this innocent until proven guilty krapp. just go with what you think. host: what judgments have your right at? caller: i believe the women 100%. the details behind his last victim who came forward is amazing. anybody who would complain and say it is 40 years later, people don't talk about this. i was groped once and i didn't talk about it for years and years. i went home and try to forget it. i cannot believe that people would blame women the way they do. it is really infuriating. host: that is the last call we will take on this topic. more open phones to come as we continue on pete we do have guests scheduled including fred upton, republican representative from michigan. a group of legislators working

to pass legislation for daca. we will get a status report on that update next with fred upton of michigan as washington journal continues. ♪ >> watch c-span this week as congress debates tax reform. the house debates its bill on thursday. live coverage on c-span. get the pills -- get details at the span.org. app.he free c-span radio >> c-span, where history unfold daily.

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good morning to you. guest: good morning. host: remind viewers what is daca? guest: the president said that he wanted congress to fix this program. it is run by executive order. congress, do your job and let's figure out a way to deal with these hundreds of thousands of kids, many of them come in at age 2, 3, 4, years old. gone through our education system, they have jobs. registered, all of that. without a legislative fix, they could be forced to go back to a place they don't even speak the language. there is a bipartisan group of folks that is working to have some legal way for them to be able to stay. there's a couple of working groups. i'm a part of a group called problem solvers. we have had a lot of discussions

and we are meeting this afternoon. the idea is, maybe before the end of the year, but certainly at the beginning of the year, we need to have a legislative solution that we can move through the house and senate, get to the president that he can sign to give some assurance to these kids. host: is there a legislative solution? guest: i think there is. presently if they don't have a violent record. this is not a pathway to citizenship but it is a pathway to legitimacy and being able to stay here. i have met with a couple of daca kids. they are fearful. they have seen some of their fors being deported out maybe even running a traffic light. they don't know what the story is. they want some resolve. they are right. as i have found, our telecom meetings, my meetings back home in michigan, there's a pretty

strong majority of democrats and republicans that say we need to fix the problem. host: is the ace bill -- is there a bill? guest: there is not a bill -- i guess you can say there is a bill, the dream act. i am going to be supportive and is less -- of a legislative act. there's a lot of instructive work that is being done behind the scenes. we are hoping we can pop out and be able to get not only the administration support but a clear majority in the house and senate. host: are those the typical committees that deal with this issue? not.: no, it is i care of this issue. -- we got got a large some great educational institutions and western michigan and university and a good number of hispanic kids and

a good number of daca kids that are there. it needs to be fixed. that is what our group is all about. dividedthat is equally between republicans and democrats to work on a host of issues, of which this is one. we thought we could get through the partisan squabbles and be able to get something done that ought to be. the president gave us a challenge. we had a republican press conference last week. 12 to 15 republicans with their saying we need to work on this. democrats on the same page. i've had some good discussions with leaders on the democratic side. this is what congress -- we need to solve this. host: our guest is going to be here to talk about the status of daca.

perhaps you are under daca are here illegally anyone to give some thoughts on this matter. you can also post on our website. is there an economic component to what you are doing? particularly the jobs and taxes? guest: i call them kids. there are many young adults but many of them are working. they are paying taxes and having social security taken out of their payroll. they have gone through the educational system. they believe that they are an american. they grew up in our neighborhoods and in our public schools. getting often scholarships to go to university and when they get their degree, they want to stay. they want to go back to wherever it was that they perhaps were brought. is a number of

these families leave their economic status at home. i met with an adoption service back in michigan, and they told me the story about two little girls became. they were eight and 10 years old. got a letterrnight under the door, they didn't have parents. these were drug traffickers and they said, we are coming for you tomorrow. the 10-year-old said, we are out of here. she took her eight-year-old sister and they made it to mexico and into the u.s.. now they are in michigan and being adopted by family. they go through the normal 12 questions. one of the questions is, have you thought about committing suicide? she said yes. said, ifrted and she they were going to get us, i was want to kill my eight you'll sister and kill myself.

often they come from that kind of background. they have been here and been placed in families. congress, get your job done. that is what i to the president's message to be. who knows? get your job done. send me a bill that i can sign. that is what we are try to do. host: brooksville florida. you are on with representative fred upton. caller: thank you for the chance to say something. i believe that the president has done what the law requires. he has turned it over to congress to make the decision by the daca children. i do believe they should be allowed to stay, but let them do it legally through congress. exhibit orders don't hold up until the next person that comes into the presidency. in addition to that, 40 years ago, our laws and morals were different.

those gross would have had a better chance if they came forward then. thank you. guest: you are right about the daca situation. the president said deal with it. i'm tired of these executive orders. a lot of folks question of the constitutionality of what happened before. that is the challenge that a lot of the sea and that is why we are going to work hard. we are going to try and get that done. the chance we can get done before christmas but certainly by the early part of next year. we should have a proposal that we can move through the congress and get to the president where i think he will sign it. we are not looking to have him veto a bill. provide some sense of relief for these kids. hundreds of thousands. gio of texas said he

thinks he can get through into votes. guest: the two former chairman, he was a part of the group of 12 or 15 republicans last week. i think he is right. i think we'll get over 300 votes done host:. -- i'm interested in learning whether or not there will be building of the wall. funding that would be incorporated into this, because i don't think this is going to solve the problem long-term, if there isn't a definitive approach to building the wall to stop the schemers. guest: i don't know yet. there is a working group of folks that the speaker is appointed. i am not a part of the group. i am part of the problem solvers and we've got it working group there as well. border security could well be

part of this. it is a question of how broad do we make the fix. go echo do wee go? border security, some could find this as a border wall. the president has talked about he is not anxious to sign any continuing resolutions spending bill come december less it's got money for the wall. orwas looking for $1 billion $2 billion. that doesn't fund a lot of the wall. generalthere is a support to make sure the border secure, whether it is a wall, securing more agents. we will see how this plays out. host: we heard dave brat talking about the future of raqqa sing that anything that goes forward

has to encourage migration enqueue -- to deter hiring immigrants legally and it would eliminate the -- would you be on board? guest: let's see. let's see how fast -- and other freedom caucus, they've showed an outline of those principles. let's see how we at just those dials. do we have more board security? program?for a worker no?: fundamentally, yes or guest: i want to see there is a right balance. i haven't looked at the details yet. i want to hold my fire. host: north carolina, republican line. caller: how are you doing? -- i'm notally really happy with any of these

elected senators. they are really just concerned about people that didn't elect them. there are so many people in this country that need their attention, and their work to be concentrated on the citizens that are here. all of these people, young people and children, need to go to the back of the line or make some way for them to get legal citizenship. instead of letting them tax our welfare system, tax our educational system. it is a most impossible to track these people. they can say whatever they want and you've got to believe what they say. how is there any way to prove it? there is no way. guest: there is a way. i have sat down with a number of our daca students.

they have been in the public schools, they've got school records that might've been there since third grade. they are now in college. you can see that they are there. those that have jobs, many of them do, they are paying taxes. the employer can provide that. they are paying social security taxes. in fact, you can define pretty easily that they have been here for maybe even 20 years ago when they first came. likeave adoption records, these two girls that i described. no one is talking about automatic citizenship. many folks say, there's a process that we have. you go to the end of the line and make sure you know english. in parts of the constitution. you take the citizenship test. many of us have been at those

ceremonies in our states. in fact, you establish legitimacy, a legal way for them to stay and the facts show only about 40% of the folks that have come to this country actually want to become citizens. my view is, they want to become citizens, great. they infect do go to the end of line or go through the normal process, takes years for them to build to take that oat to become a citizen. host: this group of euros, have you had a chance to meet with the speaker? guest: i am not a part of the formal group. i've had a good number of conversations with our leadership, including the speaker over the years in terms of time to resolve this problem. it.e got to do

it has vested for a long time. the president said get it done by march. we've got to meet that timetable .verybody realizes it is time it is time we get this done. let's put good people at this table. let's move it forward and whether we have a hearing -- you talked earlier about what are you a member of the energy commerce? i care about this. technically, it is the judiciary committees responsible to the. at the end of the day, we're going get a bill to the house floor. ?ost: karen in michigan caller: yes. i think we should let the people michigan for work in

and there has been several farmers that has not been up to do their crops like asparagus because they didn't have the people to do it. then on the other hand, the aople that come over here and dozen of them live in one house and a go get food stamps and just one person, just one person is working, nobody else. ago, i made a dollar -- i was taking care of five children and my granddaughter and it would get nothing. i think they should be able to come over to work but then go back home. thank you.

guest: it is more than just several farmers. my district in michigan, very diverse agriculture. apples,, we go through great apples by the way. very diverse. a peachtree st picked three times. we really require a migrant workforce. as i sit down and talk with a good number of my farmers, , they left farmers last year literally hundreds of thousands of unpaid crops, whether it be cucumbers, tomatoes, peaches, apples because they haven't had the workforce is there. on a cold day like today, it is going to be snowing, there's not a lot of work out there.

they have gone someplace else, to california, other places. florida got decimated with the hurricane, but we're looking at a workforce that we need for seven or eight months of the year. our guys are losing that crop because we don't have the workforce. that is different than the daca program. these are young people that have come, ages, three or four and now they are in their early 20's. that act workforce, that is another component of immigration reform that we also have to deal with. part of this stock to fix or not, i don't know, time will tell. i like to think we can do that too. how much leeway we

are going to build a have to include a fix like that. not wanting to be citizens but really wanting to work and frankly, we don't have the workforce now to do the job that we really need. host: alexia in phoenix. independent line. caller: i just wanted to add a comment about the daca students, soda like a question. what will happen with the daca students who got accepted into universities? guest: it is all the same. i've got a number of -- i set down a couple of weeks ago with a good number of my daca kids and i have done that a number of times earlier this year. they are worried because if they lose their daca status, they could be plucked out of school and they could be forcibly sent back to where they came from. there is real unrest.

there's real uncertainty and they are pushing us to deal with this so they can get on with their lives. it's not like back in the 1960's and 1970's on a draft status. your draft card that you got some student and therefore you're ok. we've got to do with this, whether they are a student or not. host: i want to ask you about taxes or the tax reform plan. where do you stand on the vote? guest: i'm looking forward to getting this bill up. it is not perfect. the design are right where they should be. different so neither house nor senate bill is going to be the one that becomes law. you can see these pieces begin to fit together where in fact that conference agreement between the house and senate can work. it is targeted toward the middle

class, doubling the standard .eduction in the hospital, we drop it to we are squeezing out a lot of the loopholes. we are loss companies overseas because we have the highest corporate tax rate in the world. the last number of years, we .ave heard lots of complaints let's change the tax code and stop these companies having a set that's having an incentive to go overseas. we are going to bring back capital investment. one of the biggest arguments and concerns they have is the cost of capital. if we can lower that tax rate on 25%, businesses, to getting rid a lot of these loopholes, our economy gets a lot stronger, and average the

reports for the average middle-class family is a savings of $1100. maybe we do a little better than that. host: should more be done on the area of state and local taxes. guest: i would like us to see have us a little bit more of a deduction. it helps to get the votes in the northeast and out in the west. we will see how that works in the house. you can see -- i saw kevin brady say over the weekend, the house language will prevail. we will make sure there's some relief. i think he is right. that will be one of the fixes. host: we saw the president saying what about a 20% tax cut? is that an area of concern? guest: in the house, we are 20%

in corporate. thisrd on the radio morning, the senate may be talking about test susan collins talking about a 21%. i think it will hit janeway first in 2018. is thene of the issues individual mandate for the affordable care act. guest: i support the individual mandate. i do not believe it should be a part of this tax bill. the discussion and focus on to build tax relief and to be more competitive with the rest of the world. when he had the element, it is a whole new ballgame. host: democrats line. wilbur, thanks for holding. caller: good morning. hello? him to ask this guy one

question. how do those kids get in school? that is my first question. guest: i didn't quite understand. host: how do the kids get in the workforce? michigan, thanks to our good governor, our unemployment is lower than it has been at 15 years. you cannot go anywhere without looking and seeing employers looking for people to come to work. we had a manufactured -- we had a michigan manufacturing day a couple of weeks ago. they brought in 900 high school kids that are looking for jobs. the factories are looking for jobs. restaurants are looking for people to work. -- if youpretty good want a job, especially in michigan, you can find one. host: from iowa, the independent line. brian, go ahead. caller: good morning.

i have two quick comments. 350 years ago, this country was predominantly occupied by the native americans and and it is amazing to hear people complaining about them now, but because we basically have a terrible situation with potential terrorism and whatnot. now our hands are tied almost. a horrible thing. i just basically want to make a comment. host: let's go to lori. caller: good morning. is this regarding the daca children that go -- children

yucca in their contributing to the economy, why are we so against them? ahead.olor, go caller: i think they have given more to this country than americans who are born here. most americans were on welfare, section eight, medicaid. who don't work, who don't pay taxes and these students are working, why are we so against them echo -- against them echo guest: -- so against them? guest: thank you for your comment. i've met with a good number of daca folks across my district, all walks of life, all different ages. they want to be here. this is a country where they came to. this is where they want to school, these are the values that they know.

they are signed up to pay taxes. they're getting a decent education. they want a future and they want to get married and raise families. all those different things we care about. if all of a sudden a program ends, and they are forced to leave, your life is in shambles. they are part of our community. for the most part they are pretty good people. from connecticut, independent line. caller: good morning. thank you for having me. i wanted to comment on a few things. , if we were to deport these children, this would be an awfully cruel thing for them. most of themhat

are not culturally familiar with the countries they came from. to send them back there would be terrible. else is that is about the tax rate. personally, i don't think it is that bad. in this country, we get some of the best tax deductions in the world. having the problem is exaggerated. the real issue here is you have an llc and he was speaking through a pastor rate. -- pass through rate. the federal government says what ever profit your llc makes, that is your money. that is what needs to change. that would help people more than changing the tax rate. host: thank you. guest: you are right on the docket kids.

-- on the daca kids. they may not have a single memory perhaps of where they were born or raised. depending on the child. on the tax side, look for some change to happen. the senate and house bill are different. at the end of the to me, it is important. most jobs created in the country are small business jobs. that and the reduction in the tax rate will mean something. a lot of those deductions will be gone which is how they make , by reducing the corporate rate and streamlining the process, and we have all heard objections about companies and not paying any taxes at all because of deductions. those deductions will be gone which is why you will have the lower rate.

rate, maintain the upper employerw the largest in one of my counties, they moved to ireland. their taxes were lower. that will change and by allowing those profits to come back home and a lower rate, they will invest in the midwest and connecticut and places around the country, creating more jobs here and making us more competitive with the rest of the world. will happen. if we were to believe the website out of west michigan, it says you are contemplating a run for senate. guest: we are thinking about it but have not made a decision. a lot of people have encouraged

me to actively consider running for the u.s.me to actively consg for the u.s. senate. we have not made a decision at some point soon. it is all relative. stay tuned. host: what are you thinking about? is a big state with 14 congressional districts. i have towife and consider is the money you have to raise, the time you spend not working on legislation, the time you spend not working on family issues, all those different things. is really a tough decision for all of us to make. host: is any of it a summit possibility of the senate, the resignations taking place amongst republicans in the last few weeks and possibly what happens in 2018? guest: an issue to me is i have always been bipartisan to her you know my record. a lot of things i have worked on bipartisan there there is a real frustration not only in the country but in the house, that many of us have with

the function of the senate, not eating able to get things done. they are not working together. palace hadin the good pipe -- bipartisan support. those were stalled in the senate and that has got to change. if i was able to get the confidence of the voters to win, i would work hard to change the perspective of the senate. host: what about the possibility of the house turning over in 2018? election is important. there is a small margin in both the house and the senate. we have got to get the tax bill done. that is a big thing. because of the margin we have in the house, i think republicans will keep control of the house but by all expectations, we are likely to lose a number of seats. host: what about -- roy moore?

guest: i think he needs to go and get off the ticket. he is a bad face for the party in terms of what we ought to be focusing on. i watched it woman come forward the other day. he needs to get off the ballot , nor shouldot win we want him to win and be the face of republicans, whether he served in alabama and they you -- or the u.s. senate. it is discussion -- disgusting. time,we appreciate your fred upton. coming up, open phones for you to comment on. we will take those calls momentarily.

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saying between election day 2016 the end of this ear, the political committee reported paying at least 1.2 million to the federal election commission and not a dollar has come from democrats. the first person on the list, , sayingt trump himself his campaign has paid about 20 2000 in new york, for a stay in the sea, about $3000 on office supplies for his ,ottled water company republican of texas spending $16,000 saying in january he held a reception at a meeting will -- meeting room in trump's onend tell and the list goes , about 10 people on the list, republicans who have spent money at trump property.

line, you're up first. go ahead. caller: i was calling in to speak to upton. host: he has unfortunately left us but go ahead with your comment at least. caller: i think the huge majority of us are sympathetic to daca and something should be done to make them legally able to work. but i have never heard anyone question the source, allowing these children into our schools. we have thousands and thousands now and we will have thousands more if we continue to allow illegals as permanent schoolchildren. i can see where you can have

instances where family brings their children and they can get of documents so they can go to school while here, but to just have people , the parents are illegal and they are putting their children into schools that are illegal. we will have thousands every couple of years. host: let's go to democrats line. roger. caller: my comment this morning is -- hello? host: go ahead. i was wondering about donald trump and all of his business in town. taxes to apays communist country but we do not know if he pays any in this country. moore trying to take the senate seat.

win.inion is he will he won't be the first one in the republican party who has one because of things -- one guy in florida got caught up in a drug bust and was trafficking cocaine from florida to d.c. and he was host: what do you think about the calls from some including the senate majority leader saying he should be expelled should he win the seats of the senate? caller: why should he? understand why they would not want to seat him. let's go to south carolina where bill is, next up. i wonder where all of the people, she was going to

bring suits against trump. another thing. just like the people in alabama, thank you. wall street journal, a story taking a look, health and human services, saying president trump has announced he nominated a secretary of health and human former georgeng a bush administration official who criticized the formal care act, carrying out to help law. he served as deputy -- deputy and wouldof hhs inherit a $1 trillion agency charged with overseeing the 2010 health law, and congressional republicans, fared efforts to repeal it. familiar with the work of the federal government, he praised republicans who said he would ring significant institutional

knowledge to the job and consumer -- consumer groups criticize the job, might neglect lowering the drug cost. keith in missouri, go ahead. you are on. thank you for taking my call. republicans were ok when illegal -- with illegal immigration as long as it was cheap labor. they then decided, guess what, we got a better deal and we can ship jobs overseas with slave waterand not worry about and air with no regulations and everyone can ship our products back to the united states and not even pay no taxes on it! and then we are going to get a big tax break when we are already paying nothing!! talk about corruption in the government. it is unbelievable. becauseote democratic

republicans are totally unacceptable. i don't really like the democrats either but until we start arresting and putting them in jail, our politicians, we will never get this cleaned up here i want to thank c-span and you all have a nice day. host: republican line, florida. caller: i want to talk about daca real quick. these politicians want to talk are a nation's laws. they want to pick and choose what laws they want to enforce and which ones they don't want to enforced. it really will not solve the problem. upbe they got screwed governments. the only people who don't want that are the drug cartels and

the people in power. every other mexican would probably love it. that is all i have got to say. if you want to join us on twitter, you can do so. if you want to post on the facebook page where the conversation takes place in the course of the program, you can do so at facebook.com/c-span. several hearings taking place today. jeff sessions as well will appear. if you want to go to our website at c-span.org, all the information that will take place concerning attorney general sessions talking about a variety of things. usa today has a story taking a look at what potentially might come up, including the hearing, which will ask questions about associations with russia saying

they could not be more definitive when he told us that he had no knowledge of trump campaign contact with russia. i'm not aware of anyone else who did. i don't believe that happened. in march 20 16, sessions and other advisors, that meeting, public hapless told the group yet connections that would help arrange a meeting between president trump and russian president vladimir putin.

>> these people, the mexicans or whoever they are, don't make no difference, it is not just mexicans. across,people coming there is no way to vet this stuff. the schools are overrun. you talk about the quality of our education system one is the potential drag of what we have got in the country. do we not have a right to turn these people back because they are not far -- following the law? once we establish the laws and they break them, we do nothing but give them food stamps, a place to live, a free education, the and then you want to keep them because they don't know their country. you should have sent them back when they got to the border. baltimore, maryland,

democrats line. caller: i wanted to make a comment about a lot of politician arguments in favor of tax benefits for the corporations. theissue i think is major rate of pay, the salaries of most of the countries, india, their wages are significantly lower. not to mention programs that cost money in addition to salaries. thank you. halt --e new york times highlights cases -- the limits of first amendment protections on free speech. when asked if the california mayor made agency centers require information about bit wearinge for

political support badges or other insignia at polling places. the national institute of family and life advocates concerns a law that requires centers operated by women -- to provide women with information wearing political support badges or other insignia at polling places. the national institute of family and life, and the persuade --eded to the program and to get -- to provide information. the law violates their right to free speech by forcing them to convey messages at odds with their valise. incompleteay it is and completeombat information. and complete information. even talk about issues you have heard this morning so far.

>> they are illegal after all. on the bill,rgin we do not know how much taxes they will pay once they will be completing that education. they come into the already low bracket. we should bring a system in , where their economies are going, australia and canada, haveing the best minds may a good system based on the education of people.

that actually start shipping to -- we should not be relying on daca or any kind of this migration. host: they take a look at the issue of tax reform. thatn find out more about on c-span.org. c-span3 and 9:00 in the morning, you see it at c-span.org courtesy of the c-span radio app. in the senate, talking about the gop tax billing criticizing it. here are some comments from yesterday.

>> republicans are giving huge handouts to wealthy corporations and they are taking away he said durbin -- suburban deductions. student loans, and more. congressional republicans are doing their best to put their majorities at risk. if republicans thought it was hard last week with the drag of an unpopular -- unpopular president weighing them down, wait until the voters here about it now. if they thought it was hard to pass a health care bill that would raise premiums and kick millions off of their insurance, wait until they see how hard it would be to rate -- when elections after they raise taxes on lanes of the middle-class. host: democrats line, we will hear from william.

i live in california but i grew up in the south and what i see now is, unfortunately, instead of us focusing on the real problems, we are concerned with immigration. most of those people are not contributing a lot to the country and not impacting the country as much. my life is more impacted by these tax laws and that is what people should be focused on, not so much immigration. bad we have distracted people. host: as far as the tax efforts going on, how do you think it will directly affecthost: you sd it pass in the house and the senate? caller: i can relate it to my

own experience. my tax bill went up so i listen --people saying how great it is just rubbish. i experienced it and i know i was impacted. less money than engineers. all of a sudden, we are impacted. the middle-class, not the rich, are impacted. it will be the same with this tax bill. host: this is from the examiner -- examiner website. the washington

examiner he had no motive for why he would be struck from behind. he says i am not concerned about the motive and i'm concerned i was attacked and someone broke six of my ribs and gave me a damaged lung. i've heard for 10 days, the senator said, after arriving back in washington. rand paul is doing yard work on november the third and was blindsided by the attack allegedly by his neighbor, chart with fourth degree assault and released saturday on $7,500 bond. that is from the examiner website. paul,le more about rand his physical state, things aids, thed by two senator had no obvious scars or bruises. he quietly explained he was

still struggling to breathe and politely declined a handshake from marco rubio, one of his 2016 presidential campaign opponents not out of spite but because he said it is too painful. michigan, go ahead. i love your open lines and to me, they are the best of it. you to -- if you want to totally, had what country, --in this sorry, i read my books during great -- breaks at lunch but they are good books.

republicane by a that is pretty good and it is called dark money. far as the books you listed, what would people learn if they read those for themselves? caller: pre-much everything from what is going on without her systems, social security, privatizing everything, and that is not just republicans. also democrats. host: give me an example from the book of why they want to privatize everything. ourer: for one, it shapes money and puts it in the hands of a few private people.

it were still going toit were s. let's take the voucher system for one. there is no oversight within it that you normally have with a school board. there is no oversight within it that you normally have with a school board. it allows them to eliminate otherthere is no oversight witht that you normally have with a school board. it allows them to eliminate other people. just because there is no oversight. they should be held to a standard and probably hit with false advertising for not providing a service that they are actually saying.

these crisis centers do not want to help the women coming in and tell them they have the option of abortion. there are only pro-life and none of them actually give people the full scope of the information available to them here that is why california had to pass the law. if they were held to a standard where they had to tell the truth, it would not en issue. that is the best example i can give you. if it is a private organization and they believe a certain way, doesn't this turn into a free speech issue? caller: just like the hobby lobby decision. my free speech cannot override your free speech. sphere, that is where we are running into the problem. just because i believe you should not eat fish, does not mean because you work for me, i can make you not eat fish. we are running into

and the supreme court has to come down and decide free speech has a point where it has to stop. it cannot usurp another person's believes. host: republican line, frank. caller: i would like to comment on this last speaker. counselorn a pro-life and i have done sidewalk counseling in front of abortion centers for 22 years. the crisis pregnancy centers are not medical facilities. they are in -- the courage months of dad's to give birth to their children and they provide financial assistance sometimes, material help -- host: some provide medical services, right? caller: no, they do pregnancy

test but they do not do the service you would find in the doctor's office. host: sonograms and the like? caller: i think a minority of them have sonograms. but if california will force pro-life centers to talk about alternatives like abortion, why doesn't it work the other way that abortion facilities should about life to tell centers? that would only be fair. host: as far as the last caller's point about giving the full scope of information about services of these types, that should not exist at the pro-life centers? they should not have to tell about abortion, no. because they are not a medical facility.

they are promoting life and encouraging moms to get earth to children. that is the mission. host: last call, jason. --ler: roy moore, i believe i think democrats will do anything to get back at republicans. host: why do you specifically believe roy moore? well, i have been listening to his show, it has come out at an odd time that they are just now coming out point --this

here is what i say. where is the proof of these show the proof. if he is guilty then yes, step aside. host: how do you think these are affecting people. caller: i have not really talked to anybody about it yet but it i will talk to people about and see what their opinion is on it and see what they feel about it. host: jason and -- in alabama, of last call on this set

ocean phones. two guests are joining us in the next hour. we will be joined by susan -- .uzan delbene she will join us next. later, we will hear from politico's elana schor as she discusses the current process for sexual harassment on capitol hill. those conversations are coming up when washington journal continues. ♪ >> watch c-span this week as

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>> watch our live coverage saturday and sunday on book tv .n c-span two >> washington journal continues. host: representative suzan , -- from the us ways and means committee, the tax reform currently being discussed and debated. where are we in the process of productmight see as a guest: for thursday. the bill went through the ways and means committee last week. there will be a discussion and a vote. it has been unfortunate. we have the opportunity to really talk about what we should be doing in tax form and it should have been a bipartisan effort and it has not been. the goal of tax reform should be to help middle-class families

and have a strong economy going forward and that has not been the goal of this tax reform unfortunately. i'm disappointed in what is coming to the floor and i do not think it represents the values he should have represented in our tax bill. i think the ryan and mcconnell plan saved -- favors organizations over people. we have deductions we're taking away from families. people's ability to deduct state and local taxes, property taxes were capped at $10,000. but businesses get to keep deductions for state and local or they can deduct moving expenses if they are offering facilities. a 15% tax cut for corporations and middle-class families really get small amounts of rakes and those are only temporary.

it is not a reflection of our values or a bill that helps middle west families. would you say corporations don't need that type of tax break? guest: when we talk about a strong economy, we should be talking about investing in people. skills andple with we need to make sure they have the skills we need for jobs of today and of the future. would youwe know the trickle-dy of economics has not and proven to work ever. we need to make sure we are making investments in people and that will help build a strong economy. host: we have several people saying high tax rates that corporations have to pay forces them to make those decisions. why not consider a tax break for them? guest: there has been a bipartisan agreement you could lower the corporate tax rate and lot of special loopholes and deductions that

are in there and simplify the tax code, and you could lower that somewhat but this has been a situation where it is a huge thefor corporations and focus has not been on middle-class families or building a strong long-term economy. it puts us in a bad place with a and increase to the deficit i think that would be a drag on the economy going forward and move us into the wrong direction. host: is the corporate tax rate of point percent to low? absolutely. we should focus on families and builds and make sure we long-term opportunity in our country. the trade-offs we made in this bill are wrong i think. host: is there a number you would be satisfied with? this is something we should have done, we should have sat down and brought in experts and people who represent different issues and we should have talked to them and understood what trade-offs to make and what impact we would

have. it went out and was jammed through committee and will be rushed through the or without getting feedback on what we could do, and what would be the right thing to health businesses to thrive and also help middle-class families to thrive here it i think this has been a missed opportunity. is joining delbene us, a member of the ways and means committee and a democrat from washington. calling in on other issues -- host: you can tweet questions or comments at our twitter feed. local taxes, how will washington state residents be affected? guest: host: -- guest: they will be affected greatly. it used to be something that had to be approved every year by congress to allow rapid --

residents to do that and we finally made that permanent and at republicans are looking ripping that away. part of the issue for families is certainty going forward, knowing what the tax policy is so they can plan and when you change things like mortgage interest deductions or student loans or medical expense deductions, you impact families and they are not able to plan and many folks are uncertain about the -- what the future may hold. what do you think that proposal -- of that proposal? guest: it is unclear where republicans are headed but corporations get to deduct property taxes above that. it is off -- it is unfortunate. deb is on our republican

line, houston, texas. caller: thank you for c-span. a question and they, for your guest. wefar as the trickle-down are always told, because i'm 55 and i grew up with it, we are always told it does not work. facebook and all of these places, they only want to have one central and. you cannot call it person to talk to them, you cannot walk in and there is no local community. they keep all their money parked overseas. why don't they bring the money back and why don't y'all in court -- encourage them to be job makers? more jobs? they said when they automate there will be different jobs but it is not true. the made all the money but good job growth was in service, waitressing and bars and restaurants and hotels. if a rich person stuck house money and they buy a yacht or boat, someone has to clean it, i guess.

wherehed a program on pbs people were foregoing rvs now and families want their own planes. host: thank you. guest: i think you are bringing up an important point, which is we need to make sure we have an economy that works for everyone in the country and we need to understand what are the opportunities we have today and what are the changes and disruptions that will happen through new industries and innovation and that is what we should he looking at. we should absolutely encourage investment in the united states and encourage innovation and new opportunities. we need to look at investing in people and making sure we get the training needed to participate in this economy. that is where this policy and the budget that was passed is

really disappointing. we are not investing in people and the long-term opportunities. there is a short-term view that would take away from the future. increasing the deficit impacts our future and takes away the resources for folks to get a great education, for interest -- for instance, deductions and the tax will. there is a short-term view that would take away from the future. all of those things impact families. we should look at a policy that create and keep jobs in the u.s. but also makes sure we invest in people so they have great opportunities going forward. host: democrats line. create and keepcaller: greetin. guest: good morning. host: are you still there? go ahead, you're on. caller: yes.

i've heard from everybody from steven mnuchin to kevin brady tout how the new tax bill -- to and therporations home money with it. i wish you a challenge, if this is good enough for president trump and his father to bring their corporation money home from overseas, it seems to be lacking when the conversation hit this. the tax returns, who knows if they are paying taxes on it. i wish you would challenge him with that, thank you. one, absolutely, we need to make sure we have incentives for corporations to invest right here and that should he the big goal of tax reform. we also need to make sure the focus is on the middle west wealthiest not the and largest corporations. it is another place where this bill has fallen short.

the focus is not on middle-class families. a family tax credit put in place is only temporary and would expire. corporations, the 15% tax cut is permanent. make sure the focus is on families. it is unfortunate that benefits they might have seen in the bill are only temporary. host: when you talk about incentives to invest here, what are you specifically talking about -- what would you specifically like to see? guest: investing in people, making sure it is about investing in training, making sure companies are able to invest in training, skills, education, so they have the skills they need for the new economy and the economy going forward. i think that is important. we have things in the tax bill that make it harder for companies to provide tuition for students and take classes. that is going in the wrong direction. we need to make sure investments

are taking place for people right here. corporations are taxed 35%. do they really pay that in your opinion? the overall effective rate is 18.6 sent. it is another place where small businesses tend to pay higher taxes and large operations tend to pay lower taxes. this is an opportunity to understand what we could do to make sure we have a system that is fair and we don't have folks to take advantage of loopholes and have tax attorneys to lower their effective late, to understand what we could do espy -- their bills tend to be higher. that smallake sure businesses farewell as well. our guest previously served as corporate vice president of microsoft.

joining us for this conversation. virginia, republican line, you with representative suzan delbene. caller: good morning. i have got a couple of facts and you may agree or disagree. what we call the 1% in this country, they pay 73% of the tax, is that correct? guest: i do not know exactly where you're getting your numbers. ok, romney when he was running said he 7% don't pay tax. guest: we have people across the paying taxes and as i mentioned earlier, we have a lot of folks who do not have resources or the tax attorneys and accountants to go through it

-- a complicated tax code. it is middle-class families and low income families who are not able to take advantage of loopholes in the tax code. wealthy families and large corporations, they are. that is why the effect of the many corporate tax rates are a lot lower than the and for a lot of families, they wish they had the same opportunities. we need a similar and error tax code and we need to make sure small businesses and their families are treated fairly. i talked to my constituents and i hear frequently about how families feel they are not given the same advantages of large operations. hello,rom arkansas, independent line. make a i would like to comment. there has been a lot of talk about reducing the corporate tax

. in the united states, used to get paid $30 an hour, and the same worker in china and philippines is getting paid mainly -- maybe less than a dollar an hour. if you have corporate manage the rate, the ceo, same or similar in costs,ay so much or would you rather reinvest all of that money back in china, india, philippines, to take advantage -- i do not think it has any basis in reality. that is all the comment i have. guest: there were these efforts to bring back money parked overseas and many cases that went out as evidence, shareholders, not necessarily as that is all the comment i have. investors.

i think there could be a bipartisan effort to make sure it goes to investing in infrastructure here at home. we know that helps create a foundation for economic growth. use repatriated dollars to focus on jobs and skills training. so everyone in the country has access to the skills they need for jobs. the department of labor says they had 6 million unfilled jobs in our community. let's make sure the jobs are filled and the people are given let'sills they need and make sure those opportunities are widely available. the republican bill talks about ringing the bill back but it is a missed opportunity when we are not talking about how those dollars are invested. there are no specifics.

they really have repatriation to pay for the big hole in the deficit by not paying for the , there have been proposals so they would be used for things like infrastructure. that is another opportunity for the tax bill. ultimately pay for those tax codes. what do you think about the arguments? guest: there will be huge amounts of growth and it will magically pay for everything. i will call that magical thinking. again thatn time and the idea of tax cuts create jobs and a stronger economy. that has not proven out even more recently in the state of kansas. kansas is still trying to dig out because of policies like

that. we should be responsible stewards of the finances caret our government dollars. we should make sure those are our countryely for and we should not be in a place where you are increasing our deficit $1.5 trillion and may be higher. a lot of gimmicks done in the tax bill to make it fit into package, it fits in 10 years by having things package, it fits in 10 years by having things like corporate tax rates in the intoe will that do not go effect for a year so they can save the money for a year. or benefits for families that disappear in five or six years just because it makes the numbers work out better. we should be looking at being fiscally responsible and making sure we have a budget that works for families and making sure we have a strong balance sheet right here for our country. the hearings for the house ways and means committee still

on our website at c-span.org. the final legislation will be voted on this week. berlin, maryland, stephen, republican line, go ahead, you are next up. caller: how are you doing today? i really like what you are saying and i want to put in a little more to berlin, it. i married twice, i had six children and they all resided with me. my 18-year-old just went into the army. as a father, i became disabled. house innd purchased a a nice part of maryland where they have great schools where i reside. they do notying is really give married people a lot of perks to deduct. if you are married and established, you should have more of a tax break. they always separate the married people.

it is like they want to end marriages throughout the whole world, it is just ridiculous. mean, i paid a lot of money in kid, and ii was a moved to another part, in myrtle beach, where taxes were a lot lower and they were a lot cheaper. when you made kid, and i moved to another xml of dollarsr hour, you had more in your pocket. guest: i think the important topic you brought up of fairness, it should be a that is fair and works for everyone in the country. that middle-class families that middle-class families are getting a fair break and small businesses are getting a fair break, that we realize how important it is, it the contributions they are making to our country, and make sure they are treated well in our tax code. that is the opportunity when we

talk about tax reform to address the issue of fairness and unfortunately, i think the bill we have before us is moving in the wrong direction. from new york, democrats line, jeff, hello. caller: good morning. i saw you on the marco committee last week. thought you spoke very well on the issues. of course, i live in new york and the big issue now is the elimination of the property tax deduction and i hope folks realize a lot of that property tax obviously goes to schools. i consider this republican bill really a raid on the wealthy in and thetern states south and southwest and of course california is a target. i am also a retired schoolteacher and an army veteran.

i got a call from one of my american legion buddies and slated for elimination and maybe you can tell this representative, there was an exemption for those who hire disabled veterans, is that included to be eliminated in the house gop reform bill? first of all, thank you for your service. proposed under the guise of sympathy kaisha and, a lot of deductions were limited, things like medical expense deductions, deductions for student loans. ofnow there was also a lot concern about the issues you bring up in terms of disability. be thehould not trade-offs we are making it i have heard from families in my district who have high medical expenses and have a family member who has long-term illness like alzheimer's, and their expenses are great.

they are worried about being if they cannot deduct medical expenses because they are so high. the changes in the republican bill do not address issues like that. it puts them in a much more -- much worse situation. these are examples of things where if you're talking about tax policy being a reflection of our values, this is going in the wrong direction. it is a missed opportunity for us to do a better job to help them was across the country, to make sure if there are issues that our taxties, policy take that into account and helps out families like that. it is disappointing that was not a part of the conversation and that we never even had that conversation. the debatehing in about the bill was president trump off his call for the repeal of the individual mandate of the affordable care act. do you think that will end up in either version of the house or senate will? still in discussion

behind closed doors with the republican leadership. i do not know. it has not been in the house bill yet. they potentially still could make changes before it comes to the floor but there has still been talk about that so it is still a possibility. host: minnesota, independent line, you are on with our guest. good morning. america and morning good morning, c-span. you are proving my point and we talk about income tax and you bring up things like you should medicalto deduct expenses and this that the other thing. it is income tax. there should be no deductions. it is based on what you make. you ared point is addicted to spending money. we have a $20 trillion debt. you can't have an issue and you keep up the same thing, our values. we have 300 point game people with different values spirit you cannot just generally say values. you are addicted to spending

money and what comes up through tax reform is a lot of cutting. so get your talking points ready for the fact that now we need to what is spent in washington because the best thing for families is where we pay less to washington and we keep our money. i actually think this tax plan, if you really want to be fiscally responsible, this is absolutely the wrong bill. it will punch a huge hole in our deficit of $1.5 trillion, and more. on interest is not covered that so that would make it more. it is looked at in the 10 year window where we know it would impact, there would be a great impact to us beyond the time frame because they are trying to make it look like it is worth than in 10 years where they are delaying things are taking away of those things

continue, it would put a bigger hole in the deficit going forward. -- when you look at it from thiscal standpoint, absolutely is the wrong bill here it it is the least fiscally responsible. we we need to make strong investments. to build an economy into the future, we should be investing infrastructure, education and skills training, like research, because all of have given us great return over the years and they are the foundations for a strong economy. so we're moving in the wrong about on, if you care this responsibility, this bill moves us in the wrong direction, realize thatave to

sometimes there are investments we make that actually save us run and i'd long say infrastructure is a great example. the pot hole today, it is cheaper to fix the pot road bed fix the whole later because you didn't do anything, those are trade-offs expenses to the backs of our children and grandchildren and i think that's that's d i think irresponsible. host: representatives hold a at sexual ay looking hararsme harz /* harassment and what needs to change. change.t should no tolerance policy for sexual harassment. be training for everyone in the capitol. clear if you are a victim of harassment, it needs should go, where you who you can talk to, there is someone that will treat the there seriously and so,

needs to be rethinking and i know there have been proposals that, we need a zero tolerance policy. house, congresswoman jackie spear has been pushing or reform and i think that there will be various pieces of legislation, she's been pushing or legislation to make sure that it is clear that we have training and it is clear there process that where people can go and where people know how works, who they should talk to and they're treated fairly and respectfully. what is your perspective on the last couple days moore?tion on roy guest: i think roy moore is unfit to be a u.s. senator. was not a supporter of roy moore before these accusations came out, because i don't think qualified, but clearly we have many, many women who he's reated terribly and i think that he should step down and not be a u.s. senator. here is george from

stubenville, ohio, on the line for republicans. guest, good th our morning. caller: yes, how are you today? guest: good morning. to know oneuld like thing, why are you people so people?rich what is your problem with a rich person? you don't look like you lost me.s to host: excuse me, caller, continue on, but be respectful. respectful. i like to know what you have against rich people and i'm not -- there.we'll leave it guest: we need a tax system that is fair. i think we right now have a we're and the policy that looking at going forward actually favors the wealthiest favors large , corporations. we need a system that is fair, that works for middle class that works for small businesses and you know, if you resources and you're able to have tax attorneys and others elp you out and you're paying lower rate than someone who doesn't have that and maybe has fair?ncome, is that

no. fairness is about making sure that everyone pays their fair we have equal responsibility to supporting our country and nd our so, i think fairness is a key compone key nent, should be a component of our tax system, a ething that we should make priority and unfortunately, i don't think with priority we have breaks large corporations families don't get, when you talk about state and local taxes or if a family has of a job, they don't get to deduct moving expenses, but a company can moving expenses, that is not fair, that doesn't address of our core values and those are -- that is one example of a problem with the plan that coming to the house floor. host: one more call, mike in north carolina. line.at's caller: good morning, thanks for taking my call. listen, i'm having a little trying to figure ut the way the republicans are

se ing this corporate tax break situation, they're saying it to s to be lower tax rate bring jobs back from overseas, ut when i listen to mr. upton earlier, his defense of corporations and how little they pay now was simply they were going to close the loopholes, cases, as i was taking it, was going to make bracket, sogher tax f that's the case, how many boats of equipment will we be seeing coming back across the ocean, if it is actually going to be higher? seems like they're trying to this kind of both ways, it doesn't make sense. caller, thanks. are theo, i think these reasons why tax reform should be something that is debated, where we have lots of hearings, do not bringsts of hearings and

things in so we can understand how different industries, taxes, how corporate different industries would be impacted or respond to changes in the tax code. that we had the opportunity to do that, i think board cuts ross the doesn't really get at the issues that you're bringing up. look at eally need to is how do we make sure that we have an environment that allows part of my to grow and that is making sure that we have great investment necessary human capital so that there are great workers right here in the u.s., able to take those job to book us right here in the united states, you have incredible infrastructure behind you, a great education system, great workers, those are things and we have hold dear need to invest in them to keep those going forward and those incentives and where dollars need to be focused, not taxesnassuming if you cut

that magically that's going to mean it will trickle down to country, across our that is the trade-off made and that was the wrong trade-off. representative suzan delbene, member of ways and committee. guest: thank you. exists andat -- what what is being proposed with of politico, she'll join us next. >> wash c-span this week as congress debates tax reform, the its bill on

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sunday 10:30 a.m. eastern on book t.v., on c-span2. temperature >> "washington journal" continues. host: elena schor joining us she covers o, congress. here to talk about a hearing looking at today sexual harassment in congress. genesis of it.he >> take a broad look at arassment on capitol hill, comes as multiple outlets, my wn, "new york times," "washington post," associated press, tally the sheer number of tell.s that women have to some anonymously, some not, about experiences on the job. extremely pervasive and this is a cultural moment coming to washington after start the ng hollywood with harvey weinstein scandal and ther celebrity that have touched the media and tech industry. host: what kind of numbers are talking? guest: it is tough to tell, that

is part of the problem. ere at politico, we are covering push to reform the system. know is 15 harassment complaints were filed with the office of compliance, which is hill harassment and workplace misconduct policing office, basically. instance, the "new york times" interviewed 50 folks for and we ory today alone ourselves have many stories we have printed. it is pervasive. walk us through the process, if someone has a charge of sexual harassment, walk us the process on capitol hill? guest: before you can file a complaint, even formally, you go through a mandated period.ing and mediation this is controversial among victims and victim advocates for several reasons. office of compliance says we're admin sterg the law that created us. training.ndatory we want more freedom to sort of give victims a bigger role process, but

they're going by the book, which reason why all are calling for reform. during this mandatory mediation period, say, it is feasible that lleged victim could be in the same room as the alleged arasser or co-workers of the alleged harasser who talk about the victim's allegations. his can be psychologically damaging environment. it is true a victim can request to not be in the same room, but you think about the age of some victims, early 20s and heir first job on the hill, it's extremely intimidating and there is so much fear of retaliation. continue in our conversation, if you want to learn more about the currents comes to sexual charges.nt 202-748-8000 for women to call. 202-748-8001 for men to call. c-span wj. mediation takes place. oes that resolve the issue or other step?

guest: the ultimate goal is to settle the issue without taking it to court. the last recourse is filing a federal court if the victims feel their concerns haven't been addressed. know that about 69 settlements between fiscal year current fiscal year were filed totaling $2.9 million. types of harassment, we don't know how many of the 69 harassment, versus based on religious beliefs or nashlt. that is are saying public money going to settlements tis confidential offices involved never get named, it is time to name and shame. congressman ple is tim murphy, who was recently resign over serious personal problems of his own. politico uncovered systemic problem with harassment, not sexual, but really abusive work behaviors. of members turn to

staff and it stays under the radar. host: your colleague, rachel, talking about this said one issue is each office is a feast with its own policy true?h of the -- is that guest: absolutely. yes. what offices like to say, 535 of them inesses, each have their own policies. now we talk to pretty much the and we actually found as senate was passing andatory sexual harassment training, many fnot majority, were requiring it or moving in themselves.on of course, it was impossible for senate to know its own members in this direction already because of the systems. corporate world, sexual harassment is a mandatory not taking place on capitol hill? guest: no. ust on thursday passed mandatory training for member and aides and that is a big deal. resistance hear among certain members, why

should i take this training, it the r my aides, they are problem. the house has yet to act, today's hearing and seenistration committee is as important. host: is that the standard amongst the federal office d.c.?sary washington, guest: sexual harassment train something host: yes. guest: of some sort. i can't tell you 100% require it r it is voluntary, but it is the standard. host: let's take calls. florida, keith is up next, elena politico, keith, good morning, go ahead. caller: good morning, thank you answer our re to questions. can you hear me? guest: sure. reality. we s eed to teach our kids that there is no job or money or worth being s assaulted, male and female. the reality of it, this has been on since the beginning of man and woman and the government on this for ing

years. now hollywood and sitcoms, a joke out of sexual harassment constantly. courses and everything. the reality of it is that women to stand up at the time. you need to learn failure and be to start your life over. the last woman that gets ssaulted by the man -- host: caller, i think you are fade nothing and out, we'll leave it at that. point about women needing to stand up is a valid one. senator brand and congressman spear, the folks on the hill working on this, say, that is what we're trying to do with this bill. there is a bill being introduced this week to broadly reform the process and create confidential office of the compliance, the theory being, these woman, in order to stand resource they can

guarantee won't pass information back to the employer. betweenat is time frame the start of the process and end of the process typically? typically three months, including mandatory period before a complaint can be acted on. host: go to california, cynthia is next, good morning, cynthia, you're on. good morning. thank you for letting me express my opinion. i believe that these women are coming forward now because they environment ent make its safe for them. i applaud them for doing that. i don't think they have anything to gain by being on t.v. and alking about it if it hadn't happened to them. happened to me quite a few years ago, so i think it is great and i hope that the whole environment is changing now, where women will feel safe, or matter, coming out these people some of the treatment and getting them people harming them in

the work place and they also don't believe that people should be in public office if they are doing these things to people and their power and harming their employees and people them. host: elena schor? guest: well, the caller make omes really good points and seems to subtly refer to the roy moore scandal, which did not senate's quick move to create mandatory training. of course, the alleged victims moore were not subordinates in the work place, but nonetheless, it helped raise awareness and sensitivity among republicans who aren't really accustomed to speaking about these kinds of issues. listen to senate majority leader believe the ing, i unequivocal y clear statement fight withing alleged victims, that's a big deal. to filer those who wish charges on capitol hill, is it clear they can go to a series of get this rder to process done or where to start

the process? guest: mostly, no. be fair to want to the office of compliance, they haven't had much of a budget doing more they're and more and more work. that said, they are under raise their ure to own profile and since politico and new york times and started to post" write about this, office of here, nce, hey, we are come by and take this training. it is hard for them because it mandatory until thursday and only on one side of the capitol. terms ofds are tied in impressing upon aides that they are available. from john is next, john is new jersey, good morning. caller: good morning, sir. is no clear holesome work place harassment policy, it is held over everybody like a veiled, vague trend. what is it? it might be a look, might be a and re, very sad hypocritical and needs to be

specialty out very clear and and the vast majority of people do not commit it. shouldn't be held like everybody else. thank you. dnigz of a schor, the harassment, is that clearly efine? ed guest: actually it is not. every system can set own of harassment. some offices go far further than thers, saying a suggestive picture hung up in your cubicle, a joke that is racially that is harassment of anyone listening to the joke mchlt offices take a much cleaner and less specific approach. host: from illinois, tonya, good morning, you're on with our guest. go ahead. caller: good morning. my call. for taking because i wasptsd sexually abused as a child. raped by a grown man and

reason why you don't say nothing is because you're afraid, you feel ashamed, you it is your fault. so i believe those women, those are not lying and also, it is not that i didn't try to do my life, i went to college and i have a master's a ree and then when i got job, i was under a man and he me, i got rassed retraumatized again and had to reporting you know, him at work and it -- it makes you got to amed, prove it and it is very ifficult for women to come forward. so when people say why did they wait, why did they wait? is hard to talk about. i see a erapy and psychiatrist, but this stuff is happens., this i was sexually abused at the age

of four years old, four years that was not my fault. so, i just want to say that shame women nt to or men who come forward, shame on them. you. guest: well, thanks to the caller for sharing her story. lot of itself takes a courage. she's right, it is not her fault. it is not your fault. i talk to senator illibrand, she has been active on sexual assault in the military and campuses, before this. pointed to a survey, getting republicans onboard to repair military, a n the survey said 59% of females in sexual tary reported assault felt they were retaliated against. when the caller talks about the big concern in other institutions, if we change the system, there is still this is no way to police that happens.on

host: your stories democratic women's proposal expect to require public disclosure of congressional offices if they happens.ed a settlement, can you host: your stories democratic expand on that? guest: yes, it is about an sparency, if there is office like congressman murphy, deter behavior is to name the offices. complaints are filed, put it out identify it. and there is nondisclosure requirement, few people know here, i talked about this pot of money available, taxpayer adjudicate settlements. condition for going through the process, right now, alleged victims have to sign nondisclosure to not talk about their experience. for some people, that can be beneficial, some victims want to career, but their once they talk about it, google has hundreds of hit of their that is painful for future employers. make he women want to do, it optional.

let an alleged victim decide how story.nt to tell their host: transparency is expected to get pushback. is a well, congress self-protected institution, bound by tradition, it is not personal change, but any change is bound to get pushback. north nne marie, in carolina, calling. hello, go ahead, you are on. caller: hi, good morning. all, pedro, i want to apologize for how you were ago, a several months guy called in and started yelling at you. -- you are north of the border, i wanted to say i'm sorry that you had to put up like that.ing host: appreciate that, caller. go ahead. of sexual the point harassment, i worked in one of the u.s. attorney's offices in the country. all from 1985 to 2007, we had videos and sign off hat we saw, certain films or whatever, on sexual harassment,

what it was, how to identify it, blah, blah, blah. one thing that not a lot of eople talk about is, it certainly is about sex and other thing is i but arassed, not sexually, more like violent thing. the man i worked for, assistant attorney, who would slam when i made a wl typo, slam phones, slam doors was always when no one else was around. comes under lso sexual harassment, the bullying look who we have in the white house, nothing but a big bully. elena schor, i've seen you on bill press show periodically on free speech t.v. people need to check out free speech t.v. thanks for your time, appreciate it.

guest: so, the caller makes a great point about types of harassment. a lot of ways, hostile work environment and all of them are 1995 law that created office of compliance. e were talking about sexual harassment, because harvey einstein, tim murphy, another proof this happens in many different forms and on all eforms being proposed to the system, cover those types of harassment, as well. debate over roy moore, change the dynamics of this conversation on capitol hill? mean, if moore is elected to the senate, there will be a move to expel him, take over the news cycle. absolutely it will, because roy oore has become a cultural symbol of the negative side of behavior. of host: to memphis, tennessee, ashley, next up, good morning. thank you for taking my call. i was just going to say that who going to hold these people

accountable if they are charged harassment? a third party that people can even complaint to and then who is going to take them out of congress or the senate, know? who holds them accountable? ost: what is ultimate punishment then? guest: she raises a great question. the office of compliance is that third party entity who can field the complaints. employees, happens to oftentimes senior staff in an office, you can't kick them out be the ess, it has to lawmaker to fire them. you saw a great example in brenda lawrence, wwho reported on. leader of the anti-harassment push, turned out women in her been having a very tough time with a senior staff fully and she wasn't aware of the situation, so ultimately she put the senior leave, remains to be seen if he will be fired.

because of every office is a a lot of ness nature, cases, it is up to the member of congress to decide. fired, the person is could they file legal challenges and complicate the process there? guest: certainly. can happen.nything talking to lawyers involved in this process, lawyers for actually as long as you have a good lawyer, the process isn't as bad as it is to be.t the thing is, that is not cheap and folks are very young. host: mike in connecticut, hello, go ahead. caller: hello. ahead.ou're on, go caller: my name is mike from connecticut. confused.f on one hand, toughest men are cops, we're firemen, fighter pilots and can do anything a man do, yet delicate flowers. e said something to me, i'm so upset, i need medication, i i wish they could make

up their mind. i learned in high school, if you woman against men, they will take your country. it could someone explain to me, tough or delicate flowers? guest: well, i'm pretty sure tough and are both occasionally delicate. for that matter, so are men, of harassment es are filed by men, not something gender.ows men can be sexually harassed on the job. have clearer t to rules so we can understand better what actually constitutes harassment. there is confusion clearly. florida, hello. caller: hi. how you doing? make a brief to remark, first of all, i think what a lot of women go through and i sympathize. want to make one point,

though, about more general kinds job, i sment on the would call bullying harassment. i have been living in the state 1989.rida since state, in anti-union which employers, bosses have aximum power over labor, over workers, employees, and workers power or clout. i have worked for temporary remember own here, i one job they sent me on back in the 1990s. i worked for was a younger man than i was. stuff and he would literally he would throw, took threw it er and against the wall he got so -- he as -- there was something disturbed about this guy. had to call the temporary i don't want to

continue working here, there is something wrong with this guy. they argueed with me, i was technically working for the temporary agency. i'm sure women go through this probably 10 times or 100 times more than men and it also has a sexual component to they argueed with me, i was technically working for the temporary agency. i'm sure women go throughit. so i'm not making excuses for saying bullying and sexual harassment probably go are her, where women concerned and also -- caller, leave it there. guest: i think the caller makes quite a lot of fair points. describing in his work place is the same sort of emotional stress and psychological intimidation that make its tougher for people in junior positions to speak up, no matter gender. host: from pennsylvania, tom is next. aller: yes, i think as reporter, you should be asking senate republicans that don't roy moore -- what

anita hill? she still stands by her story f. we're going down this rabbit is anitaele like who elect elected, disregard the role of the peep and he will play by our own rules, go to the hill. guest: i'm not sure what the caller means about asking senate hill.licans about anita i don't know if all viewers know, she wasele elect elected, accuser of justice clarence thomas during the confirmation process in 1988. she is actually recently spoken p and said this moment culturally about sexual harassment is something i never faced a lot of skepticism and criticism, including from senate did take s, but they her up to the hill and hear her testimony. ost: from new jersey, mir, go ahead. caller: yeah, i'm thinking this i'me thing is validation -- not saying they are not true, they do sound a little true, but details describing are too

clear for somebody to remember clarity from 40 ago. host: caller, you there? caller: hello. going.o ahead, keep caller: yeah. if these things happened more years ago, how -- exactly that, i think whether it is true or not, may be true, i think the details are completely fabricated, the details have to be fake. mean, i assume again, the caller is talking about moore.s of roy certainly there are interviews with victims of sexual assault how many esn't matter years pass by when you experience trauma on that level, the details stick with you. to say more beyond that. host: committee hearing on the house side, after this, where do go and what legislative efforts will we see? gillibrand and

r are expectedie this week and testifying about proposals. where we go next is frankly anyone's guess. we have a story on politico.com, that examines possibilities. senator amy this week and testifying about proposals. here we go next isklobachar isp democrat on the rules committee, as power on making further changes. she has convened a working combrup, her goal is to get in, because to buy doing forms is great, we have to pass something. she has -- but not a lot. host: who are allies then? now it's chairman chuck grassley on judiciary 1995 lawe, he wrote the that created the office of compliance, he takes personal in updating it and shelly moore capito, from west virginia, is on the rules committee. host: the house side, any republican buy-ins or supporters of the effort?

greekt congre congressman speeer is get nine house republicans, including congressman costello to sign on her bill. hello.obert in virginia, caller: how you doing? thank you for c-span, love listening to you. my concern with roy, obviously with the sexual abuse, is seems like everybody accused lost for. caller: how you doing? thank you for c-span, love like they're already found guilty and we're accusing the gentleman or whoever accused of sexual being ent of already guilty before the trial and telling them to step down or whomever it is, like not getting due process. i feel that they should. that is my comment. guest: well, due process depends the forum in which alleged offense occurs. in congress, due process is mostly beyond closed

doors, really no way for folks like you and i to know how the are handled by the office. for roy moore, the statute of limitations had expired for these offensives these women are of.sing him to say they should have come forward at the time, these are didn't men who likely realize until they grew older exactly the nature of the offense. to try everyone in a court of law tis not possible at this point. and what happens on house senate side when it comes to charges of what is being debated hearing, ated and the that would change due process so to speak. yes, exactly. -- by signing more spotlights on who is called complaints.ffice of host: glen in birmingham, alabama, go ahead. caller: yes, good morning. of all, i would like to say this. mediaick and tired of the with their -- they love roy

moore in alabama, please. don't. and there is a lot of people that don't, either. i want to say this. men, not the one that just called, women want to hear about were ocess, these children, these were children, teenage girls. know how hard it is for women to come out against men?rful you are already saying, if, if, f, these republican men, these are the most spineless, i don't see how a woman could be married man right now. that are spineless wimps were not right. host: gw enn, alabama. final thoughts on the process on capitol hill and what you expect from it. alonging to see speier can d and get -- on board. two members will go

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forh that or you can listen it in other means. again, all available information bout hearings today on our website at c-span.org, the attorney general, jeff sessions on the house side in front of committee, udiciary questions of him concerning russia, concerning the story taking a look at the possible look at the clinton 1, those and uranium possibly up for discussion, too, seehe hearing, what you can in front of the house judiciary committee with the attorney general. steve up on open phones. florida on the independent line. steve, hello. caller: hi, how you doing? you, go ahead.nk caller: listen, i've done a little studying on the subject the nnon is upsetting republican parties to the point this seems like a conspiracy, number one, fund the justice department and get all he heads of the different

entities inside the justice department and get them appointed, same thing with the are department, they tearing down all the cultural political the can't bements and that right. he's an involved -- this bannon. got this russian mess and the whole nine yards. i got to tell you something, pony show has got to end. host: from illinois, austin, on the line for republicans, go ahead. caller: yeah, there is no that is all a , hoax. talk about president trump's amazing approval ratings hello.s would be -- host: you're on. caller: with the media against at so bad and still got any all, any support, they say he hasn't done nothing, this guy much, the country is doing so well. if they would give him the say e, if the media would

one nice thing about him, report one good thing he's done, and approval ratings will skyrocket. ost: what good thing would you say tops that list? caller: well, neil gorsuch, of course, and other judges in the queue waiting to come in and shaking up the country, getting things moving, deregulation, border, at the southern it's amaze whatting this guy has done with all the opposition he's faced. host: robert in illinois. the "washington post" this david and emily look at the president's asia trip, week, talking s about one topic that didn't come up a lot was that with human his s, saying throughout 12-day trip to asia, the president focused primarily on trade, alk about terrorism and north korea nuclear program, saying lgs bout chronic human rights abuse, in a region known for brutal regimes, the theme for trump who

declared during a may speech in ront of leaders, "we are not here to lecture, but offer partnership, unlike barack cancelled meeting with the philippine president year," the two men peered at ease as they pose for photographs with other leaders tag-along shirts. across from that, across the ay, pictures stemming from the meeting, as well, you may have seen these handshake pictures so the "washington post." look at that, hear from tammy in line.ota, democrat's go ahead. caller: hi, good morning. thanks for taking my call. response to a caller a while back. how these ioning women with accusations can emember the details from so long ago. we never question a soldier that

comes back with ptsd and his of what happened to him, but we can always question a woman. a woman on thursday night, the men on friday are can't ning, i know this be true. say, om experience, i can that when something like this you, you remember every detail. i can still remember the man's face. i am 54 years old and this 17.pened to me when i was i can remember every single detail. for these men to say, these cannot recall what happened to them is simply wrong. i want to say kudos to gw enn, she's so true about guilty women that can tick by these disgusting pigs that are out there. thank you for the call. one last thing, the last caller says we should praise

trump. i will praise trump for this, he accusations against him for sexual assault and harassment, let's do something that. host: republican line. this is jack, mount eden, kentucky. jack, go ahead. caller: yes. say, you know, former president bill clinton was never held accountable for accusations against him was he? no. in the state of alabama, i would be voting for one, these se for allegations always seem to come exact same time, just like they tried to pull on any of t trump, did those come through? no, they didn't, seems like all he women accusing trump of doing something, they kind of like dropped out of the picture gloria alrich was behind this, also. this is a witch hunt,

trying to, you know, get a instead of there, roy moore. this is all political. want to push it, they could prove it if they wanted it. let's go ahead and prove host: from springfield, massachusetts, we'll hear from democrat's line. caller: hi. yes, thanks for taking my call. i was 11 years old when i was first sexually assaulted. detail.er every i'd see these people that did this to me everyday of my life. i didn't have the power when i was 11 years old and it was too realized e time i things, the details will stay with me forever and people need understand that. t's the men who conveniently forget it if they want. host: judy in massachusetts. couple stories in the paper this taking a look at iran. some showing photographs of the which 445 there in

7000le were killed and over injured in iran, according to he semiofficial tacman news agency, gave estimate significantly higher than 407, earlier.d eight people were killed at the iraqi side of the border and waited in line to donate blood in response to a call from the government. leader delivered message of contollence on monday, urging rescue workers to keep searching for survivors, from the paper this morning and "new york times" looking at the earthquake. "new york times" -- sorry, "washington post" this morning taking a look at iran and the saying the international atomic energy agency said in a confidential viewed by reuters and others, iran stock piles of enriched uranium have not xceeded the limit of 300 kilograms and iaea gained access o any sites they tried to

visit. iran isme iaea attested meeting -- six major powers, ncluding the united states, implemented early last year. iaea provides ammunition for agreement, whothe say the united states will isolate itself and be responsible for killing the deal imposes restrictions beyond what was agreed on in negotiations. oklahoma, this is patrick. patrick, good morning, go ahead. morning.ood i have -- i am a republican, i have two comments. i don't believe the five women are all lying, i do believe oore should step down, number one. number two, i really thought obama would be better with the time, i did e first vote for him second time, i did ot -- what he couldn't do in eight years, trump has done in 10 months, get the economy to in eight years he kept it at 2.1, i just don't think he that much about business

and the economy, where trump obviously does. he's a world traveller, i think he and knows how business works, that is why i voted for him. the gentleman on earlier, i think he has done a airly good job, i don't think he's got too much good press about him, they should write something. last thing i want to say, keeps talking about republicans, but let's face it, have the democrats, what they done? i think america is sick and ired of that and we want to do better together, not twieded. that is my comment. tennessee, umbolt, independent line. presley, go ahead. calling about this moore, roy moore. what he did and if he continue that.obody can defend the people that support him, hat knowing what he done, they are the -- about as bad as he time, clinton e

was elected, everybody knew what e done, raping the women and all that, and then his wife acked him on it and he was elected twice, his wife run and he people that knew what they done and still backed him and people that that he done, they t are worse and sorrier than the clinton fist they backed them they done.t never been a country in the history of the world that has propaganda put on than this country has in the last 50 or 60 tis absolutely terrible. stories about the environment related to the environment, out of bond "new york times" reporting trump administration needed stability united nations climate change by giving defense fossil fuel, nuclear down answer to driving

global green house gas emission, advisor. banks, special on international energy issue executives with top foss to make sure rest fossil fuels are used they can be clean. heads in the sand, before the trump team could make disruption ere was by chanting demonstrators and protesters walked out, leaving room half empty. the remainder of the presentation, audience members officials, house who attempted to explain trump's view that global warming is a hoax. carbont taking a look at emissions worldwide, 45 billion tons being pushed into the according to the report done by global carbon hopesct team, which dashed

emissions had peaked. we hope we entered the quarter, haven't, said the study o-author jackson of stan ford, university, united states climate change in germany, it lso goes on to say on average about 2.57 million pounds of the n dioxide emitted into air every second and top five china, ng countries are united states, india, russ ja and japan. urope would rank third, as a whole. susan, sacramento, california, happened line. two areas that relate to the women's issues hat have not been traeszed and one of them is racism, plus sexism, which impacts only women color, the other is the types hidden that are being of ractice, experiences women having reproductive organs sterileized eing

against our will. there is research and dat aall vailable online and throughout the country and we are not able to get law enforcement to take complaints or enforcement agencies for civil rights. get things ying to to cnn, so have many women. ae harris foundation, i'm not part of it, but they have data reproductive removal. t sends young women into conditions that are at risk of their lives and of course the to both being subjected racism and sexism is so structive to the lives of women color. i hope c-span at least, i hope women will call about these issues, they are out there by the thousands. thank you for letting me speak. being conducted today, amongst many hearings on capitol hill, one in senate c-span 3, mittee on if you were to go to that channel now, you would see that look at leastng a

working through tax reform efforts. that ing taking place on as we speak, again, monitor that on c-span 3. attorney ons, the general, expected to hear before the house judiciary committee, that hearing taking place shortly. again, he'll talk about a lot of different topics and being republicans and on these topics, that is available to you, as well. our website as always, you can find the complete details for ll the hearings and more, that at c-span.org. myranmassachusetts, democrat's line. caller: hi. this is myra from massachusetts. host: uh-huh. caller: thank you for taking my call. i'm calling regarding the comments made before about in le coming forward late their lives after being harassed young.hey were

and i was sexually harassed when and i our years old remember, i didn't have the 18.ory until i was something triggered it. i had suppressed it for all years and all of a sudden, could visually see everything that happened to me and i was shocked because i had suppressed it for so long. ost: that is myra, in massachusetts, calling. florida, lake placid, line for democrats, hello. caller: hi. it at all xpress embassy is reporting that in roy town he was banned from ma mall for his pension for teenagers. for those who don't believe he was ung children, banned from that mall for that exclusive reason. at age 12, was

groped by a brother's friend and i never told a soul. for those who don't believe, believe. host: one of the issues taking week, the houses expected to vote on its version of tax reform. he economy section of the "washington post" this morning shows or talks about letter or americans who define themselves as rich, don't cut our taxes is the message. americans, including doctors, lawyers accident chief eneurs and executives, saying it is a mistake at a time when the ation's debt is high and equality is at worse levels since the 1920s. notletter calls on congress to pass a tax bill to exacerbate inequality. letters tell congress to raise like them, h people being released publicly this week as republicans debate would add to at the debt to pay for widespread ax cuts for businesses and

individuals. jeff.ee, alabama, this is go ahead, you're on. caller: yeah. roy moore sexual harassment deal. -- al harassment is back of this includes both parties in alabama, you know. and that is about all i really got to say about it. thank you. host: as far as roy moore himself, do you believe what he says or believe the accusers? jeff in alabama, are you there? he's gone. california, democrat's line. hi. caller: good morning. happy to be here. been watching you all morning. my comments are the following. i think fred upton is right on when it comes to daca. sexual harassment, which is the current subject, i harassment sexual

raining with lockheed martin 1970s and any in late early 1980s and there were by that i o that, mean when it first started out, only the managers were trained sexual harassment. the managers said to themselves, are we responsible, let's get everyone trained. was trained and everyone became aware of sexual it ceased to exist. it was very simple, it was easy do. and i'll give you a certain -- kind of funny. of sexual ed harassment one time. the accusation was heard distant one that was relative open cubicle situation

had at lockheed. it was from my wife. a daily nd i had conversation on the phone, maybe during break time and i would answer the phone, is this my first called it. and that i d that was sexually harassing someone they were sexually harassing me and filed a charge against me. funny.really so naturally we went through the saw my manager, i went and saw the secretary that had that, we discussed it, we realized that it was my wife and it was somewhat hilarious and i can look back on hilarious. harassment is al and being male individual and i realize what