likely a government funding bill. "washington journal," you will reaction to the republican tax reform bill -- viewer reaction to the republican tax reform bill. we will be taking your comments, called, and comments on twitter and facebook. [video clip] are 41, the nays are 48. the nays are-- 51, 48. the tax cuts and jobs bill passes. host: republicans are now forced to take another vote on it today . we will explain as we spend the next two hours taking your calls on the republican effort on tax of warm and what you think about it -- tax reform and what you think about it. republicans, (202) 748-8001.

democrats, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002. if you want to post thoughts on us, and you can find us on facebook as well. here are some headlines looking at last night's effort. congress on the brink of tax overhaul, that is how the wall street journal laid it out this , and the gop tax rate for corporate tax now at 21% as part of that new package. washington times, when bill, three wins for republicans. not only highlighting the tax cut plan, but what it does for the individual mandate ends drilling in alaska. if you go to usa today, it describes where we are as of today when it comes to this glitch that extends the tax drama. here to explain that and to talk about the process from yesterday is john mcardle.

>> good morning, pedro. anion of what happened -- explanation of what happened yesterday -- just after 2:30 yesterday, the house passed its version of tax reform. 12 republicans voted no. that is one less republican that voted no back in november, when they voted on their version of tax reform. 3:46, the senate decided to on the taxebate reform plan. by 5:00 p.m. yesterday, it was taxr that the republicans' reform plan had run afoul of the burke rule. here is an explanation of what it is. after former named senator robert byrd, this can be invoked -- this tax reform bill passing with 50 votes under the

reconciliation process, according to bernie sanders and democrats in the parliament terry and the senate parliament who agree with them, this yrd rule,the bu allowing 29 savings plans to be and for homeschool expenses the title of the bill itself, the tax cuts and jobs act. all three of those were determined to violate this rule. even they had to vote to waive d rule, or strip out those provisions and vote on the bill. by 12:44 a.m. this morning, just after midnight, the vote happened in the senate after stripping out those three provisions. .he final vote 51-48 yesterday that leads us to today. the bill has to go back to the house to be voted on again with

these three provisions having been stripped out. here is the timing on what will be happening today in the house, -- courtesy of craig caplan. the senate passed to the republican tax reform bill, and it goes to the house rules committee at 8:00 a.m. this morning, before the floor debate that is expected later. craig kaplan tweeting that the house will debate the senate passed version of the tax reform bill for 20 minutes, and will vote on final passage as early as 11:00 a.m. this morning. -- notte is an expected expected to be in danger of these provisions being stripped out. leaders are confident they will have the vote in the house, and that will be sent on to the president, tweeting last night after the senate vote "the united states senate just past the biggest in history tax cut and reform bill. terrible individual mandate, obamacare repealed. ."es to house for final vote

he said it would approximately be approved at 1:00 p.m. this afternoon, but politico says the white house now expects the this afternoon, not at 1:00 because the house might be voting at that time. president trump might not be able to sign the bill for several days, according to politico is reporting this morning. -- signdoes find that that bill, it will no longer be the tax cuts and jobs act, so here is what the official name of the bill will be when the president does signage. it will be to provide for reconciliation pursuant to title's two and five of the concurrent resolution on the 2018. for fiscal year a lot of reporters are noting that name change yesterday, so that is what is being voted on today in the house. host: some of the elements of the packages being voted on when

it comes to deduction. the standard detection is temporarily increased to $12,000 for singles, $24,000 for married couples filing jointly, a child tax credit increase for $2000 for each child, and up to $1400 of that can be delivered in the form of refundable credit. up only up to 10,000 total dollars of state and local deductions, which of stateny combination and local income taxes and property taxes, but do not to prepayying them. the proposal is one step ahead of you, and your accountant will not allow for it. it also talks about the individual mandate under the rubble care act. buy aduals must qualifying health insurance plan, but under the new bill, mandate is reduced to zero. first call this morning, this is

from rob, new york, democrat line. thank you for holding. go ahead. caller: thank you for c-span. you know, i was originally excited about putting the experiment of a businessman in the white house. and you know, i am a ross perot trade enthusiast, but this experiment with this businessman is a failure. he is be fake, and he is the main creator of fake news. recommend ben stein as a gift, who has been talking about raising taxes. i believe that there should be a tax, a minor tax on each stock market trade. needs to be a way to generate revenue for this country, not , tax, piefaith-based

in the sky, hoping that our revenues are going to increase has never worked. and faith of trickle-down economics is not going to work. host: let's go to our republican line, maryland. herbert. caller: [video clip] host: herbert from fort washington -- hello? robert, texas, independent line. you are on. caller: thank you for c-span. over the past year, i have from c-span, and these live public hearings that occur on what is happening with our government. i do not have any other real public hearing understanding on

this tax reform bill until it is past. what thisso saying tax reform bill is, how it will affect our lives, and what the people in congress are telling us is not really true. i feel that democracy has taken a serious kick here regarding the way our elected officials beings foren upfront us as americans. host: what is it about the current tax proposal being voted on that you have concerns about? caller: i think that because the mediums are all towards income individuals under $75,000, that will expire in 2025, and there will be cuts for people above that. we have a serious fiscal problem that will occur in the next 4, theears with the debts,

in 2027,d going broke the issue of social security trust funds being depleted entirely within the next 12, 13 years or so. to arthur ins go memphis, tennessee. democrat line. caller: yes, i think these republicans think everyone is stupid. how could they pass a bill and trump will not release his taxes? tennessee, corker, he is a bigger liar than anyone else was. thank you. host: the new york times also talks about what the plan does to the alternative minute of tax. -- minimum tax. this makes sure people with lots of deductions do not pay too and also hit families

were state income tax is high. this will not go away under the new plan, although many republicans had hoped to eliminated. in 2025, it will kick in at higher income levels. under the current plan, states pay about 40% of inherited property. that is waived to over $5 million. the baseline exemption amounts double to $10 million, and this is applied to people who die after december 31, but before december 1, 2026. next up is rita, on our republican line from ohio. caller: i want to know -- you never mentioned the taxes for the people that do not make under 20,000 the year. -- $20,000 a year. i only learned 17,000 dollars. but no one gave us any idea as to what we will get to benefit with this tax break? host: the new york times

highlights some of the elements, or at least how this might affect single individuals. the income taxes equal to 10% of taxable income if you fall between $9,500 and $38,000. that original $9,500 figure goes up and shows some of the brackets and how it might affect people in those brackets. that is on the new york times website. kim, north carolina, wilson, north carolina, independent line. thank you for taking my call, and do not cut me off too quickly. we saw this during the bush administration and saw it aptly what itdid -- exactly did. i cannot understand how they try to sell this to the american people again. ,here is a study that was taken that if they took the tax cuts they are giving to the richest tothat they would be able

give each working and middle-class family $27,000 apiece if they put it to the other end. if they did that, americans would buy new cars, new appliances, and i would stimulate the economy. when they do it for the rich, what we have seen before is they take it and invested overseas. they will not bring those jobs the labor because overseas is too cheap. what they are doing is selling our country out. controlled 25% of the world's wealth. this is the biggest market in the world. it is like downtown wall street of the world. host: tim in north carolina, he talked about his thoughts on how the republicans would sell this tax plan. mitch mcconnell talked about his and his colleagues plans to talk about this across the united states. here he is from early this morning. [video clip] >> we are looking forward to it.

if we cannot sell this to the american people, we should go into another line of work. this is an important compliment for the country, people will value it and appreciate it, but it requires us to continue this discussion with the american people. we will all be doing that all through the year. willie, hollywood, florida, democrat line. caller: hi, how are you doing sir? according to the bible -- i have read the bible more than three times, and according to the bible, there are no such thing as tax cuts. you must pay your taxes. god said to the rich i do not want to give you the power to is wealthy, so giving required. god said to the rich people, pay your fair share. that is it. host: gregory, missouri, republican line. caller: hello there, and thank you again, c-span.

is itf the difference does not handle everybody, but then again, the top 10% of our wage earners paid most of the bills around the place. too many illegal immigrants take away -- how to that obamacare workout? it didn't. $10 trillion in eight years, i do not know how he spent it. we have 3% growth, and it could very well jump up to 4% plus. that means businesses with the rates are going to come out here. that means jobs. of these college students might be able to pay for their college. that is all i have to say. host: let's go back to john mcardle. taxs we are having his reform discussion and this final vote in the house, whatever we will see from the white house today, we are still a couple days away from a potential government shutdown is a spending plan does not come

together before midnight on friday. here is where we are not. a reminder of the big ticket items that are being looked at in the government spending plan -- this from reuters. they are talking about a long with funding the government, conservatives want n increase for military spending, and disaster aid in $80 billion to help puerto rico, the virgin islands, and several state recover from and wildfires. check funding, the children's health insurance program, which pays for 9 million children in low income families, is slated for renewal, but that is still up in the air. of course, obamacare as well. the reuters story noting that the senate might attach a bipartisan measure that retains low income subsidies. reporting fromst politico from late last night on the negotiations and where this stands.

write gonerters for now is the bill funding the pentagon for the rest of the fiscal year. now, house republicans are looking to extend funding only until january 19 for the whole government, hoping the new strategy will produce enough support to stay off a funding lapse on midnight on friday. a massive disaster aid bill will be broken out and have a separate vote, but there is surprisingly strong opposition to that package, which was unveiled by the house appropriations committee this week. it is unclear whether gop leaders will include funding for the children's health insurance program as part of the new funding bill, a proposal to reauthorize the section two buying power under the foreign intelligence surveillance act a stand-alone bill as well, not part of this negotiated plan. between this morning, house

leaders are likely to hold a 5:00 p.m. meeting on the government funding bill as that deadline approaches. takeshis tax bill vote place and everything happens in congress on that, they turn to the government spending and we will be right there with you to watch what happens. host: a partyline vote yesterday, 51 republicans, 48 democrats. the lottery winner this morning talking about partyline votes, saying passing boats along party lines -- we have seen this too many times from congress. where is the middle? (202) 748-8001, republicans. democrats, (202) 748-8000. .ndependents, (202) 748-8002 independent line, indianapolis. caller: i think this is a win-win. go throughing does and work like they say and money comes back to the country. that is good for everyone. that is good for us.

but if it does not, -- i am not going to vote with republicans anyway, but if it doesn't and they have to start starving their social programs, there will be a bunch of votes against them. for a guy like me, this is a win-win. host: georgia, herbert, democrat line. caller: good morning, pedro. people are voting against their best interests. the republican people, you have to watch out. a have already two thirds of the world wealth in the united it to america. -- united states of america. and people do not understand that the social security want to raise it up to $141 for medical insurance. that is all coming out of your check for the senior citizens. . just got a letter from them that 2%, they are taking it back $25 and take $300

extra out of your social security check. let me tell you something. this is about politics. going toublicans are suffer just like the democrats and every other person. i do not want to hear about the economy is doing good, because the economy is doing good on the back of slavery. theot tell me about economy. i want to know that money is going to our children, and our children's children. the deficit is still going up, and these people do not even see even realize you are voting against your best interest. half of congress's millionaires. half of congress are millionaires, and they are getting $174,000 out of taxpayer money. you think they are going to complain? herbert in georgia. robert on twitter says the only reason democrats in congress toe against the tax cuts was

deny trump a win. no other reason, he says. wall street and nbc news what peoplepoll on think about the tax cuts. 900 adults being polled. those middle-class americans, 37% of them said they would pay more, 16% said they would pay less. when it comes to you and your family, 2% said they would pay more versus 70% saying they would pay less. corporations, 8% asked if they would pay more, 66% said those corporations would pay less. when it comes to wealthy say thes, it says 6% wealthy americans would pay more, while many more would pay less. ruth, kentucky, republican line. you're next. caller: thank you.

i went to our local bank and was 120siting a check for $5,000 in my personal account. $125,000ot of money -- in my personal account. i said this is just going to the irs, this is one fourth of my taxes to my business. wouldn't it be great if my taxes were lowered, this state in the community, and it would pay for two jobs? , it would pay for four jobs, and i would take one of them right now. when they say that this money by the pocketed pass-through companies, by businesses, in fact, it does go back into local jobs. it goes into the local community. jobs, and when it goes up to the government, it disappears forever. host: house speaker paul ryan in

the op-ed pages of the wall street journal has a piece taking a look at the vote they took in the house and what tax reform he says means for your paycheck. he writes in part, the relief is also coming for small businesses , they are the heart of the economy. a new provision will enable job creators to the 20% of their income. small businesses will be able to write off the full cost of equipment, giving them an incentive to expand and hire more workers. the bottom line will help you earn more and keep more of what you earn, but that is not all. the tax cuts and jobs act achieves a historic trifecta of policy goals. the bill also illuminates the individual mandate penalty, aluminate the health care law, -- illuminates the health -- eliminates the health care law, and makes it so we can harvest more natural resources. tennessee, independent line. hello. caller: i have been working two

jobs all of my life, and i will give you an example [indiscernible] toorked overtime starting thousand 15 until this year -- 2015 until this year. [indiscernible] that is what i was supposed to make, but all year i did overtime. paid 11,000 in taxes -- $11,000 in taxes, but with federal withholding, i will pay $6,500. i only got $2000 left. [inaudible] but i pay the government 19%.

and i am left with $44,000. that is including overtime. i'm supposed to be the $1000, $2000, so whatever mess they did is wrong. they need to do it right. this taxes called pass-through. [indiscernible] and i will work for $14 an hour. go to tennessee, phyllis, tennessee, democrat line. caller: good morning. i was calling to say the have been repeating the same thing, saying the

middle class people are going to get this cuts, but i have been watching the house. i have been watching the congress. i have been looking at the nn, -- cnn and msnbc. we are not going to get that tax cut like they said. it,s the richest getting the corporations getting it. they sell the same old line over and over. i am surprised at corker. at first, i was thinking about leading republican. he turned around, but when i found out he is a millionaire with real estate, he is going out and this will benefit him. and that is what he signed on, because this will benefit him. host: chuck in alabama. he is in phoenix city, alabama. republican line, high chuck. ck.hi chu + about 4 -- weabout four times the year

think the government will get shut down if they do not fix the budget. bums are not doing their job. they should be thrown the hell out. obama never had a budget, and these people are screaming the poor, the poor, the poor. nancy pelosi is the worst. almost $400 million. that is hardly some money going out here. if you take a look at these bombs, we should look at them and see where they accumulate all of this wealth and the job to $240,0000 $5,000 a year. this is ridiculous. , who oncee bartlett identified himself as a republican, now identifies himself as an independent. now after taxes, trump is suddenly expendable.

been obsessedve with getting the tax cuts over the finish line, racing to complete them in the dead of night because they can see the handwriting on the wall. trump and the gop among the lowest approval ratings ever recorded. the gop margin in the senate will fall from 52-48 to 51-49. republicans can lose no more than one vote on any issue as long as vice president pence is there to break the tie. with the end of the gop agenda in congress as site, republicans -- insight, republicans want to lock in as many things as possible. of course, the gop president guarantees there will be no tax increases to defense costs, which just leaves entitlement programs, like social security and medicare to bear the brunt of deficit reduction. .hat is bruce bartlett wayne, new jersey, independent line. good morning, pedro.

thank you so much for taking my calls, and thank you for c-span and all the people that work there. they do a tremendous job in the background, getting these called out. i have not called in a wild. -- while, butme it is about time i said something. the republican membership -- how are they able to repeal the individual mandate in this tax bill? breakswe do need tax throughout the whole scale. ,e gained a corporate tax break but 27% would work better and still unable to congress -- enable congress to give bigger tax cuts to those making under $24,000. it would also stop them from destroying the aca. plainly and simply, they are in violation of the rules committee's. you cannot take a vital piece of

the aca out without going to hearings and committees. t know, what are your thoughts? host: you mentioned the tax rates under this new plan. the top marginal individual tax rate will be at 37%. rate, 21%.te tax initially, with the president and others wanting under 20%. ax law changes, under the gop plan, 1.1%. under tax cuts under the previous bush administration, 0.7 percent, 0% under reagan in 1986 and 1981, 2 .9%, and under president kennedy, two points -- 1.6%. caller: good morning, america.

my comment on this whole situation is that donald trump will not release his tax deal so we can see how much he is paying to china. he supports a communist country but will not show a dollar to america. i think this will going to benefit him and all of the republican congressmen and senators great, because we do not know, he will not release his tax returns. host: we go to john mcardle. guest: we have spent so much time focusing on the past weeks who would not be supporting the tax reform legislation, so now that we have had a vote yesterday in both the house and senate, let's take a look and focus on that. in the senate, the vote was 51-48, a partyline vote. the one senator not voting yesterday was john mccain of

arizona, who is recovering from brain cancer treatments and was not there to vote. in the house, more of a shakeup. 227-203 the final total in the house, and our c-span capitol the producer has a list of 12 republicans yesterday that voted no on the final version of the republican tax reform bill, but not the final, final version, because there is one more vote today. those 12 republicans in the house are the same republicans who voted no on the house 16 -- onn november november 16. republican leaders did pick up one vote from the november group. so i was 13 republicans voting no in november. the one republican that voted yes this time, public and tom mcclintock of cal -- republican

tom mcclintock of california. freeling--- riley freelinghe riley jersey -- the hill newspaper focusing on his no vote yesterday and his vote in november, noting that it rubbed colleagues the wrong way in november, because committee are expected to support these initiative. after he broke with a partyline last month, it was suggested that he be removed from the house appropriations committee. given that president trump narrowly won his district back in the 2016 election. a couple of capitol hill reporters are focusing on this as well. daniel neuhauser is with the national journal. a huge piece of gop legislation

linghuysen denied. keep an eye on his seat and what happens there in the wake of this tax vote. the house coming in at 9:00 in part to do other work, not only on this bill but also on the second vote they will take on tax reform. up until that point, we will spend the time with you. if you want to call us and give us your thoughts on these efforts by republicans to pass tax reform, (202) 748-8000, democrats. (202) 748-8001, republicans. independents, (202) 748-8002. hubert mitch mcconnell talk about how he will sell the plan. it was minority leader chuck schumer in his closing argument who had this to say about the bill. [video clip] >> what has been sold as a job creator and wage booster will do

little of either as companies, large, big, powerful companies are already initiating stock than hiring more workers and raising wages. is that what you intended? give them more money so they can buy back more stock, increasing the wealth of a corporate ceo and the wealth of the wealthy, spending billions of dollars overseas to overseas investors? that is what is happening already, corporation after with thisn has said new money, we will do even more stock buybacks. ultimately, the american people will learn that republicans have oncedered their so-called in a generation opportunity on corporate welfare and taxes for the rich, financed by tax

increases and health care increases on the middle class. the joint committee on taxation just released a report that nearly 14527, million middle-class families under $200,000 will either get tax hikes -- can we have order, mr. president? >> the senate will be in order. stuff. is serious we believe you are messing up america. you can pay attention for a couple of minutes. way, if you would like to see the things we had on this program when it comes to taxes -- not only with this administration, let previous administrations and see how they approach the issue, you can go to our website at www.c-span.org find thet is where you video library. if you type the words tax reform will show there, it

you all that we have taken it over the years on this topic. some city, california, republican line. caller: can you hear me? host: go ahead. caller: messing up america -- i do not know what schumer is talking about. the individual mandate hurts the lower classes the most, and that was passed by the democratic congress by forcing americans to buy something they do not want to buy. and also, what about that -- the democrats were talking about a for the gdprmal growth? that was the new normal hillary was talking about, and the republicans have been talking about 3%-4%, doubling that. and obama doubled the debt in eight years, and never was able to grow the economy beyond 2%. these people, these democrats, as far as i am concerned, have no credibility whatsoever. to be honest, if they did not have the liberal media carrying

water for them every day, i do not know what they would do. song always the same old about the party of the rich, party of the corporations, but they are the party that wants to put government controls in all aspect of your life. that is not cheap. that is what obamacare was all about. so the government knows best, that will be the new democratic party line. host: alaska, independent line, dave. caller: hi. there are quite a few things i would like to talk about. i would like to start out with conflicts of interest with our senators that are very wealthy and voting on these tax reforms. one of our senators in alaska has a family business worth $5 billion. he stands to make at least $1 billion, or his family does, over the next 10 years. where are the checks and balances on that?

and i will tell you another thing -- the republican tax gotrm -- when george bush in office, i paid $19,000 in taxes the first year he was in office. i got back $20,000. how does that work? this is a similar type of scam. i have called and called and called to our senators asking one question -- tell me one time in our nation's history when trickle-down, whatever you want , supply side, whatever, which has been tried 1930's,890's, 1920's, it was tried in reagan's time, when rogers named it trickle-down, but it became common in reagan's term -- it has never worked without causing a deficit. to ask you about another element of the tax

reform plan, this idea of opening up the arctic national wildlife refuge. what you think about it, considering it is in your state? caller: i live right near there. of alaska, andop that is a mixed bag. some people here are for it and some are against it. i am kind of for it, but it is not going to make much of a dent in our national debt. it should not be in the tax reform, neither should the savings account for the fetuses and this thing with daca. -- the a ca. it should be about tax relief for middle-class and small businesses, not giant corporation. host: mike, south carolina, democrat line. caller: we always hear about our corporate income tax rate is the highest in the world, but of the 500 largest businesses, about

80% do not pay that rate anyway. they pay far less. to include far less than the 21% . so i do not know how that benefits anybody other than as an advertisement that hey, now our corporate rate is 21%. that will generate absolutely nothing, and companies are not going to make investments like they are talking about. they are going to increase, buyback stock, as schumer said, or increase executive compensation. host: but what convinces you love that? i know that chuck schumer said that, but what convinces you that it will be true? caller: because they have stockpiles of cash now. they have not made investments in plant equipment or anything like it, and the additional write-offs are not going to do it. the only thing that will do it

is significantly increased demand, and by giving money and giving more to the upper portions, the upper tax brackets, they will make investments. it will not increase demand, and demand is what increases companies to put more money into assets and into workers. host: on twitter, eric says trickle-down economics has never worked, it doesn't work. james says when it comes to the minority leader chuck schumer, you think chuck would vote for a bill that would mean the end of a republican majority. you can reach us on twitter at http://twitter.com/cspanwj. oregon, kathleen, republican line. caller: i have been living on social security for the last two years. and medicareaid

are partnering -- covering hardly squat, and i want to know what the taxes are going to do for the people that are living on social security. host: what do you mean by that? 50% of well, my rent is my income living on social security. how am i supposed to pay for anything else? host: independent line, mark, virginia. caller: hey, good morning, pedro. i listen to a lot of the colors every morning, and i every morning,s and i think it is sad that we as individuals fall into these partisan categories rather than looking at your life experience. the fact of the matter is that things have never gotten any cheaper, and what is going to happen is if there is any growth

on the plus side, all of that growth is going to be sucked up by the top 10% of the 1%. the corporations or not to hear -- are not here to give anyone a break. if there is more money on the table, they will take more money. that is not a partisan issue, that is anyone who has been living with their eyes open. when you go to your grocery store or no to receive services, nothing has gone down at all. theill continue to raise matter how great the economy is. it will not be a sharing economy. it will continue to look to the bottom for wages to give people to perform the task of services they need. host: the wall street journal offers some tax scenarios -- this is based off the university of pennsylvania's been warden model when it looks at the current tax break. when it comes to high tax states, those married with two

children who live in california make $60,000 in wages that are taxed upon. the current tax liability is $2800. on,r this plan being voted $900. if you are married with two children in the district of columbia and make 300,000 in wages, the difference, a drop of $9,100. with noou are single children in new york, 300,000 in wages, difference for you is a $150 increase. it is those high tax states that became part of the debate when it came to the deductibility of state and local taxes, which is part of the problem. the senate was voting last night to approve the house -- you can more today on it. stay close to c-span for all of those developments. south carolina, democrat line. hello there.

caller: hi. i just had a comment. passed doest was not benefit the middle class and lower class. it only benefits the top 1%. everyone that voted for president trump will be affected they areew bill that passing, and i feel really bad for the people that voted for him. he is a con artist and a liar. twitter, i had to drink some coffee due to staying up late watching c-span -- which we say thank you -- but we survived the republicans passing this bill. karen says i believe a lot of people see it as a windfall and savings plan, and marie says super excited this morning, huge win for taxpayers. to thosegive my thanks who stayed up watching c-span and get up early to watch the

washington journal. returning to the discussion about the potential government spending deal and the shutdown that would not happen -- that would happen if there was not a deal by friday at midnight, there have been a lot of questions in recent weeks as to if there will be an immigration deal that will impact the so-called dreamers. reporting from the washington post on that issue, democrats are backing away from a pledge to force a vote this month over the fate of thousands of undocumented immigrants brought to this country as children, probably of hurting threat of a government shutdown at a critical moment in spending negotiations with that deadline at midnight on friday. dozens of democrats have about to withhold support if republicans refused to hold a the on the measure known as dreamers. a group of vulnerable democratic senators are facing reelection in conservative states next year and are not willing to go that far, which means the party is unlikely to muster the votes to block the spending bill. a tweet that got a lot of attention yesterday was from jeff flake, right around

lunchtime yesterday. daca will bipartisan be on the senate floor in january." this noting that flake as part of a bipartisan group of senators that are looking to tie the bill to border security. mitch mcconnell said he did not have any scheduling announcements yet for january. there are plenty of democrats who want a fixed now, what -- a fixed now, one of them is elizabeth warren from massachusetts. i am ready to vote on a clean dream act now, and so are many of my colleagues on both sides of the aisle. a majority of americans support the bipartisan bill, so what the heck are you waiting for, senate majority leader? let's do this right now. host: washington, d.c.,

republican line. caller: thank you for taking my call. i would like to speak to some of the framers ideas about democracy and capitalism. thomas jefferson wrote that you cannot have a democracy and capitalism, that they would unduly influence each other. i think this bill is a great example of that happening, where corporations are influencing the government and the government in turn is proffering off the work of their own legislation through the corporate interest they hold. is a better way, if it sounds like you do not approve the way the republicans are going with this? caller: i think there needs to be a way to take away the corporate influence. i think the campaign-finance way tois a really big even the playing field, but there is too much big money influencing both parties. i think the republicans and the

democrats both have a lot of but the way that corporations are able to influence the government is really wrong. history of at the corporations going back to the banning of corporations during the industrial revolution in england, and the ways in which the robber barons and corporations have evolved over time, you can really look at how corporations have no soul to damn and nobody to incarcerate. it is in entity that exists like a person with all the legal rights. host: ok, ok we get your point. independent line, hi. caller: the deficit is going to grow, and it is going to grow more than $1 trillion. if you have trump is in there as

president right now, i think you will eventually get impeached. he has so much experience in bankruptcy, and china is not they what they would say would do, so you have trump in there and he has so much experience in bankruptcy, why doesn't he let the u.s. fall bankruptcy-- file and stiff everybody the way he stiffed people when he was a billionaire and declared bankruptcy and sought bankruptcy fraud. the rich are going to get richer and the poor will get poorer. i worked for pepsico, a division of frito-lay, and they -- all they will tell us is this will maximize the stockholders' wealth. the percentage coming down on their taxes will go back to the stockholders. willatch and see, they split their stocks every time they get chance for the upper

management to get their bonuses and become richer and richer so the poor get poorer. host: thank you for calling. a couple of posts on facebook. susan says whoever puts up an angry face about me better new dime they received because of this bill. you ungrateful liberals will never admit it. and ed says this is a snatch and grab that you actually gives wealth to the top 1%. the middle and lower class in this country do not benefit from liberal -- this long-term. facebook is where you can post your thoughts, on our twitter feed as well or call us on the phone line. illinois, democrat line. caller: how are you doing,

pedro? host: fine, thank you. caller: the vote is very disappointing. you have the republicans saying they had a solution for a problem that is not exist. they told everybody that we will go after entitlements now, that is our plan. i have been watching this show several times. he acknowledged that it never trickles down. tax cuts the they did said it would grow the economy. the economy did not grow, we were in a major recession. cuts --t reagan's tax there was a major recession in reagan's term in office, and you had to raise taxes after those tax cuts. his successor said he would not bush lookedxes, but

at the numbers and said we had no choice. we have to raise taxes. the republicans -- this is basically their wet dream may have had their entire lives, cutting taxes. every morning, they wake up with soiled underwear and feel good. twitter, when the economy is strong erased taxes and pay down the deficit, not the opposite. a good comment, this is first step. they finally decided to do their job. charlie, south carolina, republican line. pedro, thank you for c-span. i appreciate you guys. the only hope is to lift people out of poverty is the free enterprise system, and those who try to do the class and the system do not see the people who wake up every day, work two or three jobs, start their own company, try to get ahead for

their family, they are people that get in boats and try to come to america and risk their lives to have that opportunity to do more with their lives. these people think government is the answer and they are crazy. donald trump will stimulate this thismy so anybody in country can get a better job. he will then start cutting the welfare programs and get the productivity and the labor participation rate so high in this country that you will not believe it, and then he will be reelected. so these people who think about government, the rich, and the poor, and they are totally crazy. i am getting the biggest chuckle listening to these people saying oh no, my benefits may be cut. this is a free enterprise system, this is america, go to work. host: so you are convinced that if the republicans passed this grow taxes, that will

compensate for the debt and deficit that will be added on, the $1.5 trillion figure that you have heard about? caller: he has to get people to work. , bernie sanders, socialism, he has to turn this big ship and move people off of it. when bill clinton cut welfare, a third of the people hopped off because they were riding on it. he will have to do that to get people off the welfare bus and go back to work. he is the first business president. host: we have heard some colors say ift -- callers businesses receive the tax credit, it will go back to their tax holders -- shareholders. caller: people that are trying to get a job for the first time, this ought to be the best news -- this is a christmas present. you cannot get a job. get a job. if you want to go to work today,

go get a job. you can get a job. if you are not working right now, you are not trying. host: charlie, south carolina, giving his thoughts on the republican past tax reform in the senate, the house also passing it initially, now taking another vote today. we have that and other things going on on capitol hill in washington. plenty of news happening today as well. already, a tweet, this clip from good morning america glowing around. around. paul ryan in his election plans in 2018, the speaker saying in his good morning america interview today about his election plans that is something we will discuss down the road win the appropriate time -- when the appropriate time comes, the we referring to he t and his wife.

this in the headlines, paul ryan seeing his wild washington journey come to an end. for thise was made moment, referring to tax reform, but now on the verge of achieving his long-sought legislative dream, he has his eye on the exits. another politico story, a follow-up on the paul ryan story last week, press secretary sarah huckabee sanders told reporters that trump had a spoken -- had spoken to ryan within hours of that political report, quoting her as saying the president did speak to the speaker not too long ago, and made sure the speaker knew very clearly and in no uncertain terms that if that news was true, he was very unhappy with it. the speaker assured the president that those were not accurate reports and they look forward to working together for a long time to come. so something to watch in the coming days and weeks. host: if you are watching this program regularly, you will know

when the house of representatives, and, this program and. they are set to come in one hour from now, at 9:00. up until then, we will take your calls, tweets, and other responses to the efforts on the house and the senate in passing tax reform. (202) 748-8001, republicans. (202) 748-8000, democrats. independents, (202) 748-8002. you can also reach us on social anwj. at @csp voting last night was not without drama, this also with the house speaker as he was giving a speech on the floor of the house yesterday to hecklers and those protesting, who interrupted him. here is a bit of that display. [video clip] >> today, today we are giving the people of this country their money back. this is their money, after all. the speaker of the house is

now in order. the contravention of the law and against the rules of the house, the sergeant at arms will identify the person or persons responsible and have them escorted from the house chamber before proceedings will resume. if you go to our website, more of these goings-on that took place yesterday as both senators in the senate and house voting on these packages for tax reform. greg, stafford, virginia, independent line. i'm an independent, usually i vote republican, but it seems to me when public and are in the majority, their main focus is on defense spending, and they want to cut all of our social benefits. when the democrats are in their majority, they want to increase benefits.

they still fight now p role of that is going on to fight wars. why are they not stuffing wars and bringing that money home? thank you. that is my comment. host: dale is next, republican line. hello. caller: how are you doing there, sir? the first thing i want to do is think you.

a professional. there seems to be a number of black people voicing opinions about their concerns with the economy in the south and i and i think it is important but we need to think about what texas is doing. they are balking on payments and they have to close down. the efforts on the house and senate and tax reform, your thoughts? i think we are spending more than we are bringing in and that is why we have a $20 trillion debt to be reconciled. i suggest we do an open process were people come to the chambers and then our opinions itemize what needs to be here or there or whatever else. crazy but that's what i think we need to respond. host: the deficit of the

country? caller: the reason i don't support that is we need to take more measures and make sure we are not spending as much as particularly in the economy. tom joins us on our line for independence. caller: good morning. the same people complaining they onesow wages, they are the saying we need more immigration and with their stock up, i have a question that i am not positive about. will these daca people be entitled to immigration will they bring 20 or 30 other relatives with them? once they are granted daca citizen status. trump needs to stand up.

textould not sign this will. half of the stuff he promised, he would get rid of all of these loopholes. he would give us the postcard. three glasses and the tax rate not half of the stuff trump promised that he would deliver to us. he needs to stand up and show congress he will not let them change everything and run it all. he needs to grow a pair and not sign that will. will show you other stories going on throughout the less than an hour we have. politico reporting late yesterday.

they would testify before congress earlier this week. -- saying they are seeking information about handling of two probes, handling of classified information and investigation of donald trump us campaign associates and ties to russia, attorneys general, transcribing interviews as early as tomorrow with the fbi lawyer, page. fbi more of that on the website for politico this morning. continuing dialogue or at least send your calls to tax reform efforts and the house and the senate. democrats line, george, hello. george: i am not clear on what is going on but it sounds like the same thing that happened in 2008.

i have a fixed rate loan because of eminent domain and i could not find anything to get me out of that. they just sent me a letter telling me somebody bought me out and i am back into a fixed rate loan. how can i go to an adjustable rate loan? a fixed rate to age -- an adjustable rate just by changing -- i am a black person. how is exactly what host: does your situation connect to tax reform. caller: ok, tax reform, bush said to americans he would give everybody an opportunity to own their own home. at the same time, he gave corporations the ability to change their interest rate. host: ok.

here is john. a reminder to our viewers the house is having another vote on tacit form today because the isginal, committee bill decided to have violated the provisions of the original bill, the bird rule by the senate parliamentarian or as the atlantic puts it in their headline, parliamentarians gives bill the bird. after the house passes sweeping $1.5 trillion tax bill, they , with hisisions headline earlier this week, the person -- a democrat who died seven years ago. one more headline, the one you just saw, from time magazine, asking what the bird rule is.

perhaps the best way to explain this to give robert byrd the chance here. here is the late senator byrd from the 1986 budget debate in which he stood up and talked about the bird rule. >> offering what is commonly called the bird wall, i noted in the press it was referred to as the so-called bird rule. i do not know what they mean by so-called. it is the bird rule. purpose was to curb the tennessee including every thing in the kitchen sink -- the bird rule has proved its efficacy. compared tol be cerberus. referred to, the greek

epic poet who lived in the eighth century bc. success inand

reconsidering bills. host: if you noticed the timecode, that was from 1995. we have the ability to show it to you but you can see it for yourself at our video library. that is c-span.org. if you want to see the speech, type in robert byrd, tax reform. you can see -- you can do that at our website. teri in florida, republican line. >> hi, i really love your show. think you for taking my call. and in the lower middle class my entire life. i have tried to outfox the government every time it incurs to my family.

and my children's education and my health care and my hone ownership and everything the indle class the people need the government is so is showing a curveball. in the stocknvest market because my husband works at a small business and he had no retirement other than social security. so we got into that and since president trump has been in overe, we have made $15,000. in our retirement. going toyou read is change and the new tax plan? caller: not at all. only donate so much and cannot write any of it off. it is tax free money.

host: up until the last several days with republicans trying to pass this. caller: my income will go to percent, that is great. the deduction doubles. that is great. it is like getting two extra children. yes we will have more money in our pockets. we will have more jobs in the last couple of months. it is always risky to make changes. it has been ridiculous. host: ok, thank you. independent line. baltimore, maryland. caller: it is frustrating to

listen to your collars -- your callers because there are so many talking points. you asked if it is bad or if there is a problem with profits returning it with dividends rather than high -- hiring people and that is just as good as if they hire people. money goes back into the economy and they reinvested at a higher return, it helps us grow. it is allocated -- the power of the politics. it goes based on return. more jobs and economic growth. in support of the bill, i wish it was revenue neutral, but i'm in support of the bill. a lower taxink rates and incentives will help bring the money back to the. the economic activity is

the sum of all the little actions and decisions at everyone of us make every day. i am sure some companies will just raise wages. some companies will do buybacks but at the end, it does not matter. all of us will help it grow more than now. people do not realize, you can look up on irs.gov, after the -- theax cut, it does bush tax cut, doesn't work. i am a small businessman although i have an economics degree from duke university. thein capital markets all time. i do not think people understand how they work and i don't that most politicians understand either. host: how do you think the proposals will affect you into

the next year and the following year? because i live in maryland and i live in baltimore city so i have high property taxes, i will probably net out in my estimate probably the same. from sinnefit corporate tax rates and small businesses. i do not think people understand the logic behind that. it is not a giveaway. if you are a corporation, you pay taxes based on profit. it is a profit tax and on an income taxpayer did mine go to me individually so i pay a high rate. and youre a corporation pay the ceo, that person pays the individual rate but the leftover money at the end of the year, the u need for investment in the future, is tax that a lower rate. small business right now, extra money is taxed at a high rate. i will have extra cash to redeployed new investments and new projects and i think it will help me grow and hopefully hire people.

let's go to indiana, bill is next on our line for democrats. thank you for taking my call. sense,this does not make a lot are going through a transformation. i wonder how he will pay for augmentation and to go through hormone therapy and to get everything that i need moving forward. if they will cut off the scenes at the future. i am curious and concerned i will not be a but to fulfill my life if this happens. that is very concerning to me. thank you for taking my call. on twitter, john in north now,ina, half don't pay the instructive, and this is another viewer on critter who says netscout systems security and medicare and congress does not owe them money anymore.

lines.call the phone republican line, calling us from the basket, go ahead. forer: yes, i am all changing taxes. but i do not like it if a pilot into one big hill. host: you are looking for a little more simplicity in the process? caller: that is right. keep it simple, stupid. host: james, mississippi, independent line. caller: good morning. , when at the situation the democrats had the house and the senate, and president barack

piledwas in office, they on him about the deficit, the deficit, the deficit. it is just outrageous. look at the $10 trillion he put on it. now you hear the republicans say, well, you know, it may be a little bit of a deficit, $1 trillion of deficit added to the deficit or whatever, and it shows you the politics of it. up. salaries will go ok. would you please hold these people and say, what do you think the minimum wage should be for people? you have people right now working three jobs, to jobs, on food stamps. they are not sitting -- sitting around like republicans say.

have mothers without husbands, and the hour and three to four jobs. but they are still on food stamps. they look at people and say they are sitting around not doing anything. there is something going on here and i feel like when you look at look at these you businesses and things, they are coming to mississippi the because of certain stigmas laid on them. host: got you. thank you. michelle. in washington opposes morning, talking about the treasury paidtment, saying he $174,000 over five years to soak times including allegations of including anment, $85,000 settlement claim. the washington post confirmed on tuesday.

of $332,000.r cost pin specifically to harassment or discrimination claims. only a partial accounting of money used to deal with these allegations. pay used office funds to severance packages to employees. a demographic new york resigned amid allegations he groped and tickled male staff members. the settlement confirmed by two sources was negotiated after the claim --ought a the account has recently come under scrutiny. next up is susan, massachusetts, democrats line. hello.

i wanted to ask about the health mandate. they are removing the health mandate. being taken out because of the law that said extraneous things should not the in? i am puzzled. people do not seem to understand i havesurance is spirit car insert -- car insurance. if i don't get in an accident, i'm paying for those who do. i just have insurance in case. medical insurance should be even more important. whoe are people out there have preconditions and because they are taking away the mandate, it will make it harder for them to get the help they need. when it comes to the section that deals with the individual mandate, the new york times highlights two things. under the current system in the affordable care act, they must

find qualified health insurance plan or pay a penalty unless they qualify for an exemption. under the new plan, the penalties go to zero which means that they may sign up for coverage and that is expected to lead to higher premiums for people who do not qualify for premium subsidies. back to john. host: what you just pointed out remains in the bill. it was not pulled out of the bill as part of this bird rule debate. it remains in what the senate voted on last night and with the house voted on today and what the president will most likely sign, republicans confident the house with get the votes. part of the debate going into the spending bill ahead of the government shutdown is a plan for shoring up the affordable care act cost-sharing reduction payments. we talked about this a bit ever since the white house decided to pull funding for those payments. here is more on the debate and what will happen with the spending bill from politico.

mcconnell promised moderate republican senator susan collins of maine that he would prop up president obama'signature health law so long as she backs tax reform but speaker ryan's more conservative comments is flatly rejecting the idea and urging the wisconsin republican to stand firm against his senate counterpart. the disagreement could make for the tword dynamic here most powerful man in congress worked side-by-side for months on the rewrite of the tax code but just as they are about to achieve the goal, they should be squaring off over whether to fund obamacare subsidies. we will see the debate play out in the coming days. speaking of senator susan collins, a story from bloomberg toking about her reaction the coverage of her vote and where she will be on tax reform, this is from bloomberg, susan collins yesterday ripping the news coverage of her decision to vote for the republican tax ill as unbelievably sexist.

pressnot believe the which read another senator with 20 years experience as they are treated me. they have ignored everything they've gotten and there are iories after stories of how was duped. how are you duped when all of the amendments are accepted. bills i the insurance care about as well as the provisions waving the automatic cuts in medicare that can be triggered by the bill. plenty of news organizations picking up those statements by susan collins yesterday. we'll see how it plays out ahead of the friday at midnight deadline for the government shutdown unless a spending bill is passed. host: joe is in brooklyn, new york, on the republican line. for taking my call. i am ato point out, little confused.

he promised that in a few months, we would see who is right, democrats or republicans. all the people in the united states entirely, a few months before we see that actually wages go up or taxes go down. we will see they are just liars pair there will be a test before the mid-term elections, we will have a test about who is right, democrats or republicans. test of which party is right, the republicans or democrats. i wanted to point that out. george, independent line, sterling, virginia. is that you? virginia. is will in host: go ahead. you are on. caller: i'm a disabled veteran

from vietnam. by and watchedd it tossed should be hung at the tree of liberty. that is all i have to say. host: why do you call them traitors and subversive? caller: when you stand with corporations and allow them to write tax bill that benefit them and trash the fighting middle-class, no one deserves a country. new jersey next. paul is on our republican line. caller: good morning. i cannot believe how disingenuous the democrats are, saying tax cuts are bad. was it ever, you know, ethical to start talking about tax cuts are bad, giving the people their money?

it is unbelievable. trump is trying to do what he said he would do in the election and you have to respect the guy. thanks a lot. in hillsboro,paul new jersey. on the floor of the house, we have focused a lot on the senate. it was on the house they were prepared to make the vote and making the closing arguments. the ways and means ranking fellowgot up before the members of the house to talk about his view of the tax bill and the long-term cost of it. >> this money will be used for stock buybacks and dividends. investmentbe little in the last opportunity where we should have invested in andunity colleges vocational education and apprentice ship programs. 6 million go unanswered every day because of a skills alignment problem and also, bihar of what opioid addiction has done across the united states and the sideline, 2 million people.

what they are telling us is the following. we have tax simplification. what happened to the postcard? carry around a billboard for tax simplification to figure out what is in it. they keep talking about phase in and phase out. we will be passed out by the time they get done with this. it is more complexity. wait until people have a chance in the next few weeks to sort what is in the bill but here is something you might give thought $60 a year.will get the second quintile, 300 and $80 per year. the top 1% will get $51,000 per year and a tub 0.1% will get $193,000 per year all in the name of middle-class tax relief. proceed to the holiday, they are telling us this is the christmas present. and you know what they're doing with it? it will be christmas hangover

debt and they are putting it on the credit card and adding $2.3 trillion to the federal debt. merry christmas. host: michael joins us from bristow, virginia, independent line. caller: first, wow. a couple things. i'm very happy the individual mandate is being repealed. i have known people negatively affected by it. there was a donut hole where you have people who need a little more than that percentage of the popper -- poverty line, but they also do not make enough to actually afford insurance. it ends up being a choice between getting that insurance or putting food on the table. to comment on one of the previous callers likening it to car insurance, you have the option to not drive if you don't want car insurance. with the individual mandate, there is no opt out. you get the insurance or you pay fine.

the second point, the fact that this will help low income people with a tax plan, the doubling of the standard deduction will help one is -- one of two ways. a bigger tax return or take additional allowances and have less taxes taken out of your paycheck. it will help some people. if you take a look at virginia politics, stemming back at the november elections, the house delicates, republicans were in power since 2000 and that has changed. it is 50-50. that is because of a recount that took lace yesterday. it was between the democrats and republican david were -- competing for the seat. in a recount, wins by one vote. it brings the house of delegates to a 50-50 power between democrats and republicans and they will have to figure out how to do power-sharing in the days going forward.

but stemming from that november election, winning by one vote, picking up that story and that is available online. mike is in florida on the democrats line. hi.er: i'm just calling to because i want to say i'm grateful for a fixedllins being income democrat, that i can still have my two deductions for student loan's and property tax. that is all i have to say. thank you. oklahoma, republican line. bob. morning.ood real quick, it has been laugh out loud funny watching the reaction today to the gop tax lan being passed. whether it is sideshow gel or , it is high humor.

these people do not get the fact we want to keep our own money and we are sick and tired of washington wasting it. it is funny and laughable and it is better than test -- deaf comedy jam. host: when you hear concerns about deficit, how do you react? caller: deficits were not on anybody's radar a year ago. all i want is to keep more of my own money. the good people of the united states are better stewards of the money than the it -- than the insane clown posse running it right now. host: what would you do with it? caller: invested in my stuff. .aybe in my grandsons education i would buy stuff. that is what this is all about, stimulating the economy.

people like nancy pelosi and chuck schumer, we are sick and tired of the stuff being barked out by chelsea chandler and rosie o'donut. host: how do you benefit from this? are you middle-class, do you make an upper income, how does it work out? caller: pretty much middle-class. i am glad someone is looking out for us because they have not for the prior eight years. it is ridiculous. jerseyoe is in new caller: i hear people trying to get what they want, and congress is just passing things basically according to their interests.

you can increase happiness by her actions, for the greatest and this isople, just helping a couple of individuals. it should be shut down completely. he has left us, but let's go back to john, who has not. you: i will stay here with all morning, pedro. the house morning committee will meet to discuss the final version of the tax reform bill, a reminder that debate on the house floor is expected to be less than an hour then when it is hitting the house floor. sometime you on when this is expected to be finalized, from thetical this morning, white house will hold what she is calling a test victory lap at 3:00 a.m. this afternoon per and

invite that would extend to senate republicans. it looks like the white house believes this will be said and done by 3:00 p.m. this afternoon. stick with us on the c-span network all day long to watch the final vote and what happens when it goes down. host: 25 minutes until the house of representatives comes in, that is where we end our program today. if you want to give tom -- comments to pass the tax reform package, -- and you can tweet us. chris, democrats line. i am 90 years old and i sit here and i am simply amazed simpleot come up with plans to solve our problems. for every swipe of a card and every transaction like on wall street, is one penny were deducted in five years, we would

be rid of all of our debt. and maybe you can tell me before i finish the view would pass it all on and see what happens, and then the unemployed could be employed by a couple of means. look at the forest fires in california. people out there clearing up under the trees, we know that the fires were probably -- probably in my not have happened because there is no fuel. like oregon, put everybody to by nobody has to jerk their own gas now like i was young. they check under your hood and they do different things. is too simple. they give everyone a job, they will say, this isn't perfect but. , what know what a bill

imperfect bill is, write a perfect bill. host: let's go to texas, republican line. caller: yes, i think the democrats ought to get on board with this tax break. it seems to be doing pretty good and it ain't even in effect yet. host: why should they invest in it if they oppose it? caller: you would think they would want something that helps americans throughout all of america. will benefit the american public. no doubt in my mind. argumentsof the democrats make however is ultimately the one point $5 trillion of debt that it adds an deficit that it adds. said, backe they from it coming back to the

taxes, coming back into their pockets, they can go out and buy more things. they can do things they have not been able to do in a long time. and kudos to president trump and the republicans. the tax bill does what it is intended to do, there is no doubt in my mind there will be who will pays really heavily come the midterms next general election that we hold. host: that is howard in midland, texas, and kevin brady is from texas. part of the closing argument yesterday was what he saw as benefits to the tax plan. here is him from yesterday. >> our communities have washed company -- companies and jobs move overseas for too long.

with one been fighting hand behind her back from an outdated tax code and they deserve a new tax code that allows them to compete and win anywhere in the world, especially at home. when they compete and win, who decides where the money goes? washington says to spend it overseas and the new tax code says to bring it home and spend it here in america to grow our jobs, our paychecks, our communities. that is why this moment is so important. opponents of the tax bill do not really worry about tax cuts for the rich. they worry about tax cuts for you. if you spend your money, they can't. if you have the first claim over your earnings, they no longer do. if your dreams come before theirs, every thin and everythingchanges --

in washington changes. everything. given the choice between the federal government and you come we choose you. hard-working american taxpayers. we choose you, the only special interests that truly matter. america deserve a tesco for a new area of prosperity and we deliver on that promise because it is your money. california, democrats line. good morning. good morning. kevin brady is a liar. yound it incredible that have working people who are for the bill that raises their taxes. that they are cheerleading to up seemly rich people more

of the money that they look for. bill, for anyone making $75,000 or less, will cause their taxes to go up. and the republicans, the temerity of the republicans claiming that this trickle down fairy dust that they have been ,outing for more than 30 years that has never materialized for any american, all the people calling in and talking about how the economy is just going to boom and everything is going to singeat and the birds will and the clouds will open up and it will just be wonderful, they are drinking swamp water. the trump administration just

gave their billion dollar donors a wonderful christmas. because they are the only ones that actually benefit from this tax scam. host: in michigan, independent line. good morning. caller: good morning. i want to preface my statement by saying i have a degree in economics. i just want to have a little discussion about the money that we are saving. does anyone remember the word block box that al gore used to talk about? taking social security and putting it in a separate account? they say a lot of people don't pay federal taxes, that is true but when they raise the money that you put into your social security account, that is rating your money.

this is the third year that i as a reset event of social security have not gotten a raise. interests,the 2% excuse me, the 2% increase we got, that money went right to paying my medicare. even though i am on social $1200 a year is taken out of my social security to pay for my health benefits. retiree, i still pay for my health benefits. no one talks about the way they take money away from people host: i'd don't mean to interrupt but all of that in light of the current tax reform bill, can you connect this that way? caller: certainly. i am appalled at how ignorant

the american average populace is. they do not know how they manipulate the money. david in new york, republican line. caller: good morning. i definitely feel the stimulus package by lowering taxes will work. i definitely feel that the way that trump is talking about it believect, but i do not the congress people on the democrats side are being honest. i do not believe the corporations are benefiting tremendously. i think it will give them an opportunity to bring cash overseas and higher americans. i think that is a great stimulus for the american people and

having lower taxes and paying into government is a great stimulus for people. they buy goods and that will bring up the demand side. so it will increase the supply side and that is a great stimulus. half -- the democrats are bringing this like it is only a gift for the rich, that is wrong. i wanted to point out this morning that just about 18 hours ago, house republicans were celebrating passing what they thought would be the final tax reform bill. of course they are having to come back and vote again today because some provisions in the bill violated the so-called byrd rule in the senate. here is paul ryan 18 hours ago on his twitter page, just past ,he tax cut and jobs act cutting taxes for middle income families across america. today, the name of the bill will be a little different because the name of the bill is one of those provisions that violated the byrd rule.

as joseph points out from the washington examiner, here is the official name of the bill now, to provide for reconciliation pursuant to title's two and five of the current resolution on the budget for fiscal year 2018. it does not quite roll off the tongue the same way. bernie sanders was one of the members of senate who raised problems with the byrd rule and the parliamentarian eventually agreed with sanders and other democrats. bernie sanders on twitter taking a poll for what republicans should change the name of their tax bill to. here were the choices that 33,000 individuals on twitter voted for. 13% said it should be called a middle-class hike bill, a cash for corporations bill, the winner trillions for billionaires bill, and 11%, the road for medicare cuts bill. that was bernie sanders website -- webpage yesterday afternoon.

baltimore, maryland, democrats line. good morning. caller: i like trillions to billions. i will not believe this is a decent tax bill unless i can see how they are draining the swamp for presidents -- president trump and his cronies. trump's see president tax returns. how can he be under audit so long? how can we assess whether he is in patting his pockets with the for altra billionaires? it does not make sense that we could say this is tax reform when what it really is is a big to theas bonus wealthiest people in america. host: florida, independent line. the next up is carl. just reading something on the web about trickle-down tax cuts don't create jobs. this is from the center for american progress.

it says the state experiences can guide federal policymakers. it says when there was a tax increase, that jobs actually and by 2.5% in california in kansas, when they cut taxes, they are most fell in their face. if people do not pay attention to the reality of history, and they believe what the republicans are saying about what isy trickle-down, the definition for insanity? host: does it explain how chuckled -- how it led to create jobs? caller: private sector job growth has been stronger after tax increases on the rich than after tax cuts. bill clinton, it went 2.5 percent up. during george bush when he lowered the top rate, it went

2.66. after president barack obama raised top rates, it went to 2.5. this is the center for american progress, which is cited with references for any of the public to see. fredericksburg, virginia, republic line -- republican line. caller: it is interesting to hear people call talk about trickle-down economics, but i wonder, do you want the trickle-down of the republicans, or do you want the trip -- trickle up poverty of the democrats? that is what they do. they trickle up poverty. so i cannot see any choice other than the fact that we need more and i'm our pockets sick of them throwing in security.nd social

the democrats have been pulling that for 40 years or longer. they used to have something called the doughnut hole and they used that to beat up republicans forever, no matter that they gave prescription drugs for everybody. there was a doughnut hole, and something from 1917, and brian lamb is to have a lot of people on their talk ,bout how those two groups those people did not get the same social security check as everybody else. and they were talking about how they were going to fix that. they have been pulling that stuff for so long. , ever well, over 65 aware of what is going on, i know the people which we would just go ahead and die. host: ok. one of the pieces they have in the paper takes a look at the

industry and the winners and losers under the tax bill. cite international provision aimed at taxing overseas profits would generally benefit investors that support company saying is on the industrial section, adding that u.s. manufacturers are likely to benefit from the ability to mealy right off the cost of equipment and when it comes to sections of hospitals, him him bullet as they -- the the bill would preserve their actions to tax-exempt bond markets. the repeal the mandate that most people would get health insurance would increase the number of uninsured patients seeking medicare and the lower corporate tax rate would benefit companies like hca health care incorporated. barbara is next in illinois, democrats line.

caller: hello. i just wanted to comment that with everything our government, the currentcaller: hello. administration, president trump is doing and trying to do, he is creating a new class of people. in the middle and lower class, they will turn into peasants. our taxes will be going up to help compensate for the taxes of the big corporations. they don't have to pay. aca?about the medical, the i know people who are on it. god for bid if these people were scully's, theye would not get the great medical bid,he got four, got for if they have with senator mccain has, they would not have the great care that they have. we do not get the great care that they have now.

it is just very disappointing. chicago, illinois, independent line. hello. yes, thank you. my name is tracy. i think that what happens is is that they sickly, they work for of obama, youred know, and clinton, and all of them are they are making $174,000. $9,000n hire up to employees. toare paying their salaries make decisions, to be bipartisan and try to get things kind of on an equal level. this bill, ok, if it will create jobs, ok, how many jobs will you provide and ham and erases will you give? to be part of the criteria in

order to get the tax cut? thank you. back to john. week, we have been monitoring several events around town this morning. cohen,those was gary president trump's director, of his national economic council, is -- he was speaking at an event, predicting market rallies as stocks have not raised in the tax cuts that are coming. at that event, he also talked about the passage of the tax reform plan and what can happen today after that happens. here is gary cohen from earlier this morning. cohen: i think we will have ont and house leaders down the south lawn. better stay nice weather. >> what will the message be?

>> the president will thank them for the hard work and congratulate them for their effort and remind them we have a lot of work to do but it will be a celebratory atmosphere. let's go to tomorrow, austin, texas, and she joins us on our republican line. good morning. caller: good morning. it is sandra. i was a question concerned about with tax cuts. i like it for the middle-class bank and i think -- the middle-class bank -- the middle class and i think we need to lower the corporate tax because that would get more companies to invest more in our infrastructure and also to move them from overseas. my question is, how are we going , most of the service outsource their work .verseas, such as india

maybe also because it is cheaper to hire over there, so will it be cost effective for them in the immediate future within the next year to remove these overseas, outsourcing back to the united states and provide training for american workers and will american workers wind up working for that lower cost? in india areople not really getting paid what a typical american gets paid here. corporations be wanting to come back over to the united states to give us more jobs? about thats thought while they were doing the tax bill and lowering the corporate tax? let's go -- host: let's go to florida to your next.

caller: medicare and social security were both instituted to help from going to poverty and old age. when you go to the parents and grandparents, what this will do to them, you should consider exactly what the republicans did and if it does not get fixed by it couldlection, very will impact social security and medicare. we will be hurting ourselves, those of us over 50 and those of us who have parents who are in their retirement ages, it is really going to destroy their lives, much like it was back in the early 1900's, before the plants were put into effect. that isant to go back, ok. i make a good living but we will have a lot more people in poverty. host: ok.

phil, massachusetts. the house is about to come in. ask your comment. the guy from new york, four of his representatives did not vote for the bill and they are republicans. the lady from virginia, she was talking about outsourcing jobs. .o one is talking about the tax i will explain what that is if you give me a second. when a company or corporation makes money outside the united states, they have to pay america taxes on the money. now they don't have to do it. what they can do now instead of outsourcing the job, they can move the whole corporation, the whole building, out of the and they don't have to pass anything, they doctor pay american -- america anything. all i am saying to you is the floodgate is open and -- is open. host: we believe it there.

a lot happening including another vote the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to the order of the house of january 3, 2017, the chair will now recognize members from lists submitted by the majority and minority leaders for morning hour debate. the chair will alternate recognition between the parties. all time shall be