senator mcconnell: i don't think that's going to happen. i think we're on the way to getting an agreement and on the way to getting an agreement very oon. answer all these hypotheticals because i think we're on the way to getting an agreement and getting it very soon. >> the senate majority leader there. the house in recess. waiting to start work on a temporary government funding bill with current fend spending authority expiring thursday at midnight eastern time. the new measure would extend funding through march 23. it would also extend defense spending for the entire year and would fund community health centers for two years. while we wait for the house to gavel back in, we'll take a look at some of today's "washington journal." "washington journal" continues. tungsten jim himes is back

at our desk -- a democrat from connecticut. how concerned are you this morning, the morning after the largest ever single-day point decline on the dow jones? guest: markets go up, markets go down. of aarket has had one hell run the last nine years. the idea that we're going to get any adjustment shouldn't surprise anyone. what is surprising is the president would choose to do what president have not done -- me.upside is all now yesterday your help talk about the downside if it is all him. guest: how much is he to blame for the downside? guest: the president has very little effect for the economy generally. starting six-months into his term, president obama had a growing economy.

the president has very little impact on the economy unless you do something like go to war. what if we do something like have another government shutdown on thursday? well, the idea of a government shutdown is not a new thing for the market. if you look at what happened to weeks ago when there was a shutdown, if you would happen a couple of years ago, there might be some near-term noise, some loss of confidence, but fundamentally the market will reflect what investors think about the private sector and their ability to generate profits over time. host: how concerned is the market over congress's ability to raise the debt ceiling coming up? guest: that is a slightly different issue. that is the one thing in the near term short of, suddenly, a war, would have a dramatic impact on the stock market. again, the markets have seen

before long time, the lyrical back and forth, noise, silliness around the debt ceiling -- here is seven that does absolutely nothing to control the debt, but every once in a while it rears its ugly -- ugly head. when the to the moment markets believed we would stop servicing united states debt, at that point there would be hell to pay, but until now i don't think they actually believe that would happen. host: in the next 48 hours -- what happens with the continuing resolution. will you support it? guest: it depends what is in it. i have not seen it. i am much or anyone has seen it on capitol hill. running the government on a week by week basis -- the single large centipede on the planet is largestst centipede -- entity on the planet is an enormous issue. voting against

continuing resolutions for a while because i want to see the government -- we need to stay over the weekend or a holiday to get a budget done, that is what we should do. guest: do you think we should take -- host: do you think we should take the military out of the continuing resolution process and vote on that separately? that is a we are hearing might be included in this latest containing resolution. there was will recall a deal made many years ago because our groups of congress that want to see the military budget increase, then there are groups that want to see things like research and development, work on cures for diseases -- that funding, assistance for you people that want to get education. the deal was we would put severe caps on on both sides of the budget -- military and nonmilitary spending. that was until deal everyone made and everyone was comfortable with. now the proposition is let's spend a lot more on our military, but not let's spend any more, basically, on helping kids get educated, rebuilding our bridges, our court system.

that is not going to fly, at least with democrats. democrats may not be essential in the house today, but they are essential in the senate. the idea we're going to let the military spending grow, grow, grow, while everything else is forced to contract will not fly in the senate. with your work, house intelligence committee -- were you surprised with support democrats risley -- received when it came to reap -- releasing the democratic memo? guest: i am not surprised. the chairs of this should be transparent, so it is hard to turn around and vote against releasing the democratic memo. donald trump does not strike me tothe kind of guy to say yes putting facts out there that are contrary to his narrative. in the next five days we need to see whether we will get

permission. host: what can you tell us about the democratic memo at this point? is it a point by point refuting of the nunes memo? guest: that is exactly what it is any mexico blood freely important points. 1 -- exactly what it is, and it makes a couple of really important points. this is really not about the origins of the russia investigation. that investigation was underway for months before the carter page fisa application even existed. memo willdemocratic show is the application for the fisa -- this is what we are down to --fisa abuses in the case of carter page. it will show the judge knew the le dossier came from a politically motivated source. the judge knew. we will also explain the fact that in a fisa application, the

dossier was just part of the application, and the nunes memo was dishonest about what andrew mccabe said about the importance of that information. we will get it out there, hopefully, if the president agrees. we will have that debate. what i worry about is the ugly political purpose the memorandum has served. we will hear from those callers today -- their people that say the f yeah i is compromised, -- the fbi is compromised, the judicial system is compromised. people trying to set up a world -- i have no idea what robert mueller will say, but if he says i found the following three examples of wrongdoing, a meaningful number of people will say he was compromised, the fbi was called mice. there is a time -- compromised. there was a time when people who were leaders stood up and said the integrity of the justice system is critical.

there was a time where john mccain would shut down a woman in a town hall who said president obama was a muslim. sadly, that day is gone. is the use of information from a politically motivated source in a fisa application concerning to you? guest: not only is it not concerning so long as it is adequately disclosed, but i would ask your viewers to consider the fact law enforcement uses informants informants.riminal a few thousands can you use a sources every day. all of those sources, all of those informants have biases one way or another. i don't think i've ever been a source that doesn't have some bias. the job of some judge is to judge whether that bias infected the information, the evidence being presented. host: you are saying that was

done here? guest: it was disclosed to the judge there was a political bias and no one has suggested the judge just said oh, ok, this information must be true. this is a federal judge. the federal judge looks in totality, mix a decision. they are not alleging that whatever went to the fisa court was untrue. we just heard that it was paid for by the democrats. people need to remember the totality andt the information. information always comes from biased sources. the reason we care about who makes -- we make a judge. the judge sits down and says do i feel there is probable cause, in that case the judge said four times yes, i do. host: stephen is up first from connecticut. independent. go ahead. caller: thanks for taking my call. like air are kind of

coming out of a balloon. it really was a disappointment to me. me,know what interests honestly, is the midterms coming up. elections,bout ways -- wave elections, and i think it is true. i think it is comparable to what happened to obama. mccain,ant to say john new hampshire's favorite son, we are pulling for you. to pennsylvania's 18th district. that by double digits. there will be the will be watching. host: congressman himes, what will you be watching? guest: [laughter] guest: it will be extended see.

there is a lot in the question. i am gratified that lots of americans in rural places are standing up and saying i am not comfortable with this president and i am going to express that discomfort by going to the polls, showing up in march is. i am the democrat -- marches. democrat appear. but when the president -- in my first speech a republican stood president obama and city you live. when the president says you're not clapping for me -- a lot of people say that is not my country. it is a debate of ideas that we celebrate. we don't call our political opponents because they did not stand up and applaud for me traders. i think the president will suffer substantial setbacks as

he should. host: durham, north korea. richard. independent. -- north carolina. richard. independent. caller: i would like to say the most common issue today is actually race. look at what russia did when they exploited us with social blackwhen they mentioned lives matter, the issued in ferguson, missouri, and we are leaving ourselves open because we won't address it and we are too cowardly to look at the issue straight up and front. unless we decide to solve this issue of race, we are always going to be exploitable to enemies like russia, china, the middle east, and i think it is a very dumb, naive thing to not even mention this when most of these men that come on here,

alle empty suits, mostly white men who avoid the issue altogether, even if you mention way around it. host: richard, let's give congressman himes a chance to respond. richard is right at a very deep level. it is nothing we are comfortable talking about as a society, but the undertones of race that flow through our politics -- it is hard to talk about. if you talk about it, someone will call you a racist or someone will say you are a snowflake whatever it may be. race permeates our political dialogue. isn't it that -- this president will, almost every single day, including in willuper bowl message criticize african-american athletes for taking a knee during the anthem and they are doing that because what they are

saying is not that i am unpatriotic, not that i'm not standing by veterans, but i want to tell the story of my community, african-americans -- how mike unity feels when we are pulled over by a police -- community feels when we are pulled over by a policeman. the president attacks those people for exercising first amendment rights. when you have other people expressing first amendment rights saying we want more freedom of religion -- the president celebrates that first amendment right. you will not convince me in the disparate treatment this president applies not just to black athletes taking a knee during the anthem, but you name it, the cast of "hamilton," which happens to be a group of people from communities of color, and i can go on and on -- you're not going to convince me this president does not think dramatically different about the interests of our communities of color and this president think about what people in this

country. host: ingrid. florida. line four democrats. caller: good morning. good morning, representative himes. i wanted to talk to you about the mueller probe. i just saw this morning the president's lawyers are not muellerhim to go before without first having the questions given to him, and i remember last month that his physicians proclaimed that he was in excellent health, and i don't understand why this president is supposed to be special, to have questions written, given to him --can you explain that, sir? guest: i can certainly explain why the president's lawyers don't want him being interviewed by law enforcement. we could argue a little bit

about whether this president lies a lot or a little bit, but this president every single day lies. if you are doing that on fox news -- telling the nation of the biggest inauguration crowds ever, the biggest tv audience for your state of the union address, even though that is provably not true, even though that does not matter, you have now perjured yourself and committed a felony if you do that under oath. you make the right point which is nobody in this country is above the law. if the fbi or anyone else wants to interview you, even if you are the president, you show up and you get interviewed or you take advantage of your fifth amendment protections and say i don't want to testify. just saying i'm above the law i don't need to answer, that is not an option. host: yet, it is the president calling your ranking member the liar, "little adam schiff," he

called him -- guest: what can you say, right? it is in the of politics that you don't punch downwards. here is a president taking on an in the minority in the house of representatives doing it in typical fashion, simply making stuff up. adam schiff is one of the most honest man of integrity that i know, but the fact the president would deem this a presidential thing to do says a lot more about the president that does adam schiff. host: how did he react to you after reading that tweet yesterday5 -- yesterday? host: -- guest: adam? host: yeah. guest: he chuckled. never in the history of this the president

protecting member of the minority in the house of representatives, but that is this president. host: bill. canton, illinois. caller: i have more of a statement than i do a question. i am a white, middle-class, educated -- i have always been a democrat my whole life, and me and about 39 others voted for trump. we feel like the democratic party has voted -- abandon the middle class. they represent the illegal immigrants more than they do the actual citizens of the united states. until the democratic party shows me and others like me that they represent middle-class america, we are not voting for you, and that is the bottom line, period. thank you. guest: i hear you loud and clear on that, and that is not the first time this democrat or a .emocrat has heard that

as you might imagine, in the past year that has been an immense amount of soul-searching on that question because communities that he used to vote for us in big ways did not do that. they voted for donald trump, who offered lies like we are bringing the coal mining. in this country we do not have either/or, zero-some politics. we're going to stand up for dreamers -- individuals who were dragged here illegally at age two from countries they have never been back to, that don't know those countries. when the president says we're going to throw you out, we are going to say we are a country of immigrants, a country of deep values. our motto says out of many one. that does not mean we are not going to stand up for the family in the midwest sitting around the kitchen table saying how are we going to pay for college for our kids? how are we going to pity's health care bills?

it is not either or. i'm not going to argue with you. we got the second part wrong. it is not either/or. we can do both. time withd a little the tax overhaul, which delivered huge amounts of money to corporations. i understand some corporations are raising wages, but delivered huge amounts of money to corporations and the very wealthiest people in this country. you can now leave $22 million to your children tax-free. i want you to look at the difference between what donald trump and republicans delivered to you and what they deliver to the family that will leave $22 million for your children and ask yourself who is looking out for you. host: i want to spend more time on the dreamers issue. this from yesterday -- a bipartisan proposal to resolve the impasse was dismissed by the white house is insufficient. the proposal by john mccain and

christopher kuhn would grant to top a plan introduced in the house, but president trump tweeted the idea is a waste of time because it spending tohorize build new barriers along the border. where do we go from here? guest: there is a deal to be done because in excess of 80% of americans think we should give the dreamers a path to stay here legally. they should stay employed, out of trouble with the law, pay their taxes with everybody else, and there is a deal to be done there. as a democrat, some of the things the president wants, a little bit of money to look at his famous border wall -- we are in the minority, we have to make optimizes. the president hasn't presented with deal -- has been presented

with deal after deal. member this is not a problem that exists because of the looking for democrats. because --blem that problem because president trump said we're going to throw dreamers out. he did not need to do that. he created this problem. it is on him to look at one of these deals and say i will take that deal. host: time for a couple more calls. rodney. alabama. line for republicans. caller: yeah. this guest you have has drank the kool-aid. first of all on so many levels everything you have said is incorrect and wrong. if i literally $22 million or two in a $20 million to my children -- -- $220 million to my children -- that is money i have already paid taxes on, you knucklehead. democrats typically want to keep

all my money. that is first. we know the truth is coming and you don't have a rock to stand on. you ought to be thinking we have to throw the ballots off the sinking ship because trump wasn't supposed to be arrested. you guys got it coming -- elected. you guys got it coming. calling from is the state of alabama which for the first time elected a democratic senator. ship, not only sinking not an alabama, where we ever imagined we would have democratic representation, that is a function of florida lukens saw fit to move -- republicans saw fit to put forward. let's set aside the inheritance tax -- the president embraced a man for whom there were credible allegations of child molestation. under those circumstances, the democrats are not on a sinking ship.

-- i don't know his circumstances, that we can talk about inheritance taxes, the top marginal rates, the rate people in this country pay -- the fact of the matter is in this country a small group of people are doing really, really well. i've been a lot of them, a very affluent district. the middle class is worried. as usual, the folks living in .overty are getting left behind when individual like rodney says you need to protect the families handy $22 million down to their children -- handing $22 million down to the children, it is ,ccruing to the very top end top 1%, top 2% of this country. by the way, we hear the public and say you need to spend more money on -- republican say we need to spend more money on defense. where is it going to come from?

whethereeds to decide he wants to pay a lot more for that, or maybe some of the people that really benefited from thousands of points of increased in the stock market -- maybe we ask them to help pay for it, too. host: daniel. go ahead. caller: i'm a democrat and i am disgruntled. it is unfair we have a president that goes on record saying some of the things that he has said that are really an appropriate and we do not have enough people really challenging him. i think it is unfair that people on the right can go so far to the right that as soon as we have someone on the left going a little bit to the left like bernie sanders he is considered crazy. host: what would you like to see democrats do? caller: i think democrats need callsus more on universal -- some of that appeal to me,

who is in my 30's, working all the time, trying to survive. i don't think it is fair republican can get whatever they want when it comes to military spending, bombing countries overseas, but when it comes time to college tuition, free health care, anything like that, democrats caved in and let him get away with that whatever he wants -- whatever he wants. guest: two are for the comments. i hope you heard what i said to bill who called in from the midwest. we have taken into her -- we did a lot of thinking -- heart, we have did -- we have done a lot aboutnking collectively the fact that we have not been listening to concerns people have around the kitchen table. while the stock market has done well, while you can now leave $22 million to your children without tax -- that middle-class family, and ever present a lot of them, they sit at the dinner

table and say maybe we can pay the college costs, maybe, but if we get sick and our premiums go up or if i want to contribute to the 401(k) to have a decent retirement --that is not going to happen. that is where we need to be and where we are. maybe we have not been focused enough on those things, and that his criticism we democrats will take on board. that is who we are. all you need to look at -- dean to do is look at this tax plan -- the first thing they did when they got here with donald trump they were going to repeal the affordable care act. that was going to have the effect of throwing 20 million americans off their health insurance. you are right. we need to stay focused on those issues that really every day people around the kitchen table care about. e gentleman from texas seek recognition? >> i send to the desk a privilege red port from the committee on frurels filing under the rule. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the title. the clerk: report to acompmy house resolution