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you know, the concerns about his security clearance were, you know, raised to the highest levels. apparently there was some discussion from the white house chief of staff and others high up in the administration. and so, you know, goodlatte said he supported trey gowdy. host: the speaker also endorsed his rights to it, yeah. scott: the speaker supports this investigation as well. i think you can say it's the first sort of real oversight we're seeing of the trump administration separated from the russia investigation, which is now very convoluted. you know, it will be very interesting to watch this as it unfolds. i would note, of course, that trey gowdy is retiring, so he doesn't have to worry about any sort of political backlash from the president of the united states. that may be one reason why he feels free to pursue this course of action. host: as is mr. goodlatte. we'll see how this plays out. thanks, gentlemen, for your questions and for being on "newsmakers" this week. >> thank you.
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we will hear from president trump later today. he is holding a medal of valor ceremony at 3:30 p.m. eastern, 45 minutes away honoring a dozen police and first responders. have live coverage on c-span. before the white house briefing begins, we will take a look at the 2016 election and former fbi director james comey's effect on the election. we will show as much of this as we can ahead of the briefing. davis,ing us as lanny the author of the "making of the president 2016." -- he served in the white house. good morning to you. the subhead of your book, you lay this directly at the feet of james comey. why is that? >> i looked at the statistic. statistics. i have opinions on mr. comey. i think rod rosenstein had it right, 20 did was a firing
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offense. when he offered his opinion on the evidence on july 5, 2016. something that is not allowed, and is a firing offense when he offered his opinion on hillary clinton's email practices. when he sent a letter on october 11th, violating over 50 years of justice department's policies, defying the deputy attorney general, he did it anyway because he -- james comey gets to decide what is right and what is wrong. that narcissistic attitude is what caused rod rosenstein to write a memo. this is the appointed deputy attorney general by donald trump. he was exactly right. even in rep -- retrospect, james comey would not tell mr. rosenstein he had any regrets. that is what a narcissist does. he defines what is right. his book has the words, higher loyalty. has higher loyalty is not to the law, to the policies, or to the rules. he gets to violate them.
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he gets to define what that loyalty is. the cost hillary clinton statistically, i prove, the presidency. host: the reference statistics quite a bit. why do you make that case? why are you looking at the polls to make this case? contesthe head-to-head and immediately after for the next 11 days. then i also looked at a motion and impressions that changed before the october 20 letter and right after. in every measurement, not just the head to head polls, which by the way, the national polls were within 1.2% of accuracy, the polls did call the election. hillary clinton won by 3 million votes. i did more than just polls. if i could show you some charts for your viewers, it would actually visually prove my case. host: plano we talk about the net drop hillary clinton saw from the time of the time of the election. guest: ok.
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i think this would be chart number two. the first chart is the morning of the 28th of october. the national average of all polls, national popular vote, shows her at head by 5.9%. the morning of october 28. with all of her mistakes, the emails, the servers, everything she was taken -- criticized for, she is ahead by 5.9%. that is a larger margin of them barack obama defeated mitt romney. look at what happened in turn two. october 28, she is ahead by that margin. the three critical states would have allowed her to win the presidency had she carried. pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin. she is ahead by five-seven points. purple states have republican governors, republican legislators, that are going either way. stockat happens like a
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market crashing within days of the october 28 comey letter. nothing intervened. no great trump surge, no change in news, just headlines saturating the american people, hillary clinton under new criminal investigation because jim comey decided to violate the rules and send a letter to congress with no fax, all speculation -- facts, all speculation. host: if you go back to that same poll that shows that dramatic job, you will see -- drop, you will see three states. that shee admitted should have spent more time in. don't you think that was a contributing factor to the loss, not only jim comey's contribution? short let me give you a answer, no. the total margin in those three states, pennsylvania, .7%. under 1%. in michigan, .2%. wisconsin, .7%. he campaigned every day of his
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campaign and wisconsin. every day. on the morning off up to over 28, he was ahead the same margin is hillary clinton. crashed after they comey letter just as hillary clinton did. he campaigned every day. it wasn't a matter of hillary clinton not campaigning. it was a causation event. the sending of that letter caused her to drop in the polls, like a rock and a pond for the next 10 days. saturated news coverage around the clock, saturated news coverage with the headline on cable television, and all the major newspapers, hillary clinton under criminal investigation. two days before the election, mr. comey sent a letter. early sunday morning, it was a whisper. he said, oops. sorry, got it wrong. a little too late. host: we will invite the colors to ask questions. --you want to call
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we will take you back to the time where jim comey makes an additional assessment in july. here is a bit of that. we look at your reaction. [video clip] the department of justice makes final decisions on matters like this, we are expressing to justice our view no charges are appropriated in this case. intensehere will be public debate in the wake of this recommendation as there was throughout the investigation. the americanter people is this investigation was done honestly, confidently, and independently. no outside influence of any kind was brought to bear. i know there were many opinions expressed by people who were not part of the investigation, including people in government. none of that mattered to us. opinions are irrelevant. they were all uninformed by inside to our investigation because we did our investigation the right way. matter.ts
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the fbi found them here in an entirely apolitical and professional way. host: mr. davis, you don't buy that argument? comey, a criminal investigator, whether you are the head of the fbi, or a detective working for a local police force, is not allowed to call a press conference and express an opinion on evidence without charging. a senior justice department official was quoted in vanity fair saying, you know what we don't do in america? we don't shame and not charge. what mr. common went on to do was express an opinion. first he said, we are not charging. because there was no criminal offense. that is a correct outcome. then he said, she was "extremely careless in the handling of her a mills." her polls went down because the headlines wasn't that she was clear after a one-year investigation, the headlines where, james comey opinion on the evidence in a criminal case.
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that was a firing offense that the republican appointed trump appointed deputy attorney general, told mr. comey and asked him, do you have any regrets about violating the rule, you are not allowed to express an opinion on the evidence unless you publicly charge? that has been a rule. mr. comey doesn't use those roles. he answers to a higher loyalty, as he says in his book. that higher loyalty is james comey gets to decide. i come a james comey, don't have to follow the rules. that is why he sent the letter violating 50 years of policy that you don't speak at the justice department within 60 days of a presidential election. everybody follows that role. but one person. james comey. why? he gets to decide what is the higher loyalty. that narcissism is what caused hillary clinton the presidency. host: aside from mr. comey's
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role, what about how she handled her a mills? -- her emails? cameralet me look at the and expressive the way she expressed it. she made many mistakes. the males, the server, the way she handled that you mail. other things that happened in the campaign. what campaign doesn't make mistakes? the sex full ones -- and successful ones, we forget about. many mistakes. two things can be true. one, hillary clinton made a lot of mistakes. she takes responsibility for. two, but for that october 20 letter on the morning of october 28, she is winning by a landslide. , larger than -- if i could look at slide three if you have it on the camera, this is the electoral map. that would have occurred, but for the comey letter according to real clear politics and every
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other analyst is looked at the map. that would have been the case had james comey not violated all the rules, except the ones james comey gets to establish. that would have been the result. she also made many mistakes. host: some of the polls are the basis of our guest book. first call for you comes from ron, he is in new hampshire. democrats line. you are on with lanny davis. good morning. caller: good morning. pedro, great guest, as always. mr. davis, i have to tell you, thatit has been proven debbie schulz had it in for bernie sanders. the dnc had it in for bernie sanders. were in our elections. our elections were tainted.
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memo, yes, that probably didn't help hillary clinton any. that is not why i did not vote for hillary clinton. i spoke with hillary clinton face to face at one of her town hall meetings. i told her that my wife and i were going to be voting for bernie. to tell you the truth, i think that should be nullified. hillary clinton and donald trump should be in jail. we should just start all over again. host: thanks. guest: we have a due process system and you are entitled to your opinions. debbie schulz did not cause bernie sanders to lose to hillary clinton. votes.llion your support for bernie sanders, i completely respect. i truly did respect and admire bernie sanders. he lost to hillary clinton by 4 million votes.
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fair andhe nomination square, including the majority of the elected delegates. she won fair and square. did his best to lecture because he saw the danger with donald trump your you are putting hillary clinton and donald trump in jail is not consistent with of the due process clause of our constitution. consistent with what senator sanders would say about hillary clinton, who would have made a great president. host: from michigan, independent line, ryan. you are next. caller: good morning. thank you very much. i agree with what you say about the fbi and james comey. i disagree with what you say that is why she lost the election. she lost the election because she played the race card against white america. in 2008, she played the race card against black america. now, into thousand 16, she played it against white america.
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it has taken off like a wild storm. she played the race card. i remember when she told me, don't you pick on my blacks, mexicans, trans-genders, and all that. she directed that at white america. go some choice but to other direction. i was a lifelong democrat. thank you very much. i respectfully disagree with that. you have a right to your opinion, sir. i look at america as one country. i don't think of white versus nonwhite america. and sorry you feel that way. i would say to you, 3 million total that than the donald trump won disagree with you. at the very least, you are in a minority view. donald trump at 44% approval, which they are high-fiving about at the white house, that is the lowest approval rating in the history of the presidency for a inson after his first year
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office. you are in a minority that sees this in racial terms rather than on the merits hillary clinton, in my opinion, we respectfully disagree, would have made a better president. ist: if you take a look, pulled this from cnn's website from november 9. for heardready losing latinos, african-americans, the young, they don't know how much to the agreed that jim comey involvement was her but she was already losing with that. would you admit that? guest: two was definitely losing because she lost the act -- the electoral college. she must've been winning among a lot of people. what we know with certainty, and i don't offer an opinion here, the fact simply states that on october 28 in the morning, every gave her aic opinion 5.9% national popular vote margin. vote on theectoral
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morning of october 28. larger than barack obama had at that point in his campaign in 2012 over mitt romney. liken 10 days, she dropped a rock. nothing happened other than saturated media coverage with the national headline that she was under criminal investigation. a lot of those voters by november 9 and after were thinking, as much as i would like to see hillary clinton president or maybe i don't like her, but i don't want donald trump, stayed home. the vote was down. and also a lot of her voters tot were weak switched trump. that was a result of the comey letter because the statistics don't lie. host: these were last-minute decisions. guest: yes. the last-minute decision is a very important way to prove my case. national exit polls, voters in the key battleground states, let's take florida, she lost florida by 1.2%.
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who had voted up to october 28, she was ahead by 3% to 5%. then exit polls, voters were asked, when did you make up your mind? among the voters who said the last week, before election day, meaning in the middle of the 24/7ated headline, television coverage, hillary clinton under criminal investigation, while she lost the entire she lost the last -- he lost to last-minute deciders by 30% to donald trump. host: from democrats line, atlanta georgia. caller: i am a democrat. i supported bernie. i held my nose and when voted for mrs. clinton. you are forgetting a couple things. hillary clinton's scumbag husband. he forced her to have to recuse herself.
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