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in about an hour, we will talk trade policy and tariffs with marcy kaptur.oman conversation continues with jodey arrington of texas. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016]] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] host: there are questions this morning on if president trump will sign a new package of terrorist against imported steel and aluminum. that signing was supposed to take place this afternoon. but there are reports as of late yesterday that that may not happen because details are still eing worked out. democrats on capitol hill released a plan for infrastructure. they want to invess $1 trillion and they want to roll back the tax cut that wealthy americans received under president trump tax cut law. and speaking of the tax cuts, for the first how, we want you to tell us what kind of impact

you may have seen from the package of the law to your -- passage of law to your bottom line. did you see an increase of pay? if so, how much? and what did you plan to do with it? call one of the special lines this morning. they're dieded by income brackets. if you make under $25,000, it's 202-748-8000. you make between $25,000 and $50,000, 202-748-8001. and between $51,000 and $75,000, 202-748-8002. perhaps you make over $75,000, you can call us at 202-748-8003. post on twitter at twitter.com/cspanwj and on our facebook page at facebook.com/cspan. gallup has a poll taking a look at the support for the tax cut overall. this was conducted and released on march 7. the latest gallup poll showing that as of january, 33% of americans who were polled approved of the tax law. that increased up to 39% by

march of this year. there's some details as far as how this exactly was paid out from paycheck to paycheck saying that overall, 32% of u.s. adults say they have seen ain't crease in their take-home pay because less federal incomes is being taken out. -

host: and among u.s. adult, 21% say the tax changes have helped them. that might be your situation when it comes to the tax and how you've seen it happen at homepage after -- paycheck after paycheck. and again, the lines will be on the screen. and they affect you as far as tax brackets because that's how we divided them. under $25,000, it's 202-748-8000. if you make between $25,000 and $50,000 t 202-748-8001. you make between $51,000 and $75,000, 202-748-8002. and if you make over $75,000, 202-748-8003. it was yesterday on c-span that there was a hearing taking a look at the impact of the tax law. it featured the president's chief economist testifying before the joint economic committee about the economic

policies of the president was asked by republican about the impact of the tax law here's a statement from kevin hassett. >> i like to go back the tax cut bill if possible. because i think i need get some clarity from you and i hear the critics saying that the lower tax rates are going to disproportionately benefit the most wealthy earners out there and yet what i hear in my district is something quite different. kim, a single mom who works for a construction company, she is actually seeing an additional $260 a month. that is more than $3100 a year in her paycheck and for a single mom with her daughter in college, that really is significant. can you give some clarity about how the tax cuts are affecting in a real-life scenario across the different income bracket, particularly for low and middle income earnsers?

-- earners? >> yes. i've addressed the big increase and the refundibility of the child credit and the treasury was efficient at changing the width holdings. in february, people saw their take-home pay go up. and i think one reason why the polling about the tax cuts changed so much in february and march is that people began to see what's real money to them. the tax bill just passed in december and our stimulate of the wage effect is really -- estimate of the wage effect is something that will be spread out over years. if history is a guide, then as popular as the tax cuts are now because people saw their take-home pay pay up.

they're going to be even more popular in a few years because of all of the capital that's come online and pushing up wages. host: that's kevin hassett on c-span.org. pick a line and tell us about your experience. lest start with james, atlanta, georgia, makes under $25,000. james, thanks for calling. tell us about your experience. caller: i'm actually losing money. i went from paying 10 pocket to more than 10%. these tax break do not work. all it is is a sugar high for the rich. let me explain to you. under reagan when he cut taxes the black unemployment rate went over 30%. the interest rates were high. it did not help. the deficit ballooned to almost $5 trillion from $290 billion.

host: so, james -- caller: too good -- the rich got richer, the poor got poorer, blacks got worse. 38% unemployment rate. host: ok, thank you. monique, washington, d.c. hello, go ahead. caller: hello, hi. i don't agree -- i haven't seen too much of an increase in my paycheck. i know i get about $50 additional dollars every two weeks. i chose to drop my exemption and give that money back to the federal government because what people don't see is the money that you're getting now, you will not see it when you file your taxes next year. so what i do is it just -- i would rather see that lower pay so when i file next year, i'll get a bigger refund and i can plan my family vacation. and i think that it's a gimmick

because when those who are getting the money now, when they go file their taxes next year, a lot of them will end up owing taxes. host: monique, did you get advice on changing your exemptions like that going into it or is this something you've always have done when you make those kind of decisions? caller: well as of -- well, usually, me and my coworkers, we sit together and we talk about it. we sit together and talked about all about increases. everybody in the office amount was different. and it depended on the amount of exemptions that they were taking out that were being held from their checks. so one option that i chose was just to drop down my exemptions and let the federal government utilize that $50 additional that was given to me because it's not a big amount of money that would

help me any way. i would rather see my money at the beginning of the year. host: so at the end of it though, when you get filed, vacation is what you're planning for. is that ultimately your goal as far as what you save paycheck to paycheck? caller: well basically, the vacation and also having money to balance me out throughout the year. host: ok. caller: so it won't force me to live paycheck to paycheck. it's different when you get a ump sum of money as opposed to crumbs. caller: good morning, c-span. thank you for taking my call. my belief is that overall, giving a tax cut to anybody is a good thing because you have disposal income to spend. but here is the crunch here. the trump tax cut costs, i

believe something in the order of $1.8 trillion. that is going to add to our $19 trillion debt. now, in other words, we got the ax cut with the credit card. host: how did your tax situation change because of the passage of the law? caller: well, possibly, i benefitted that to the tune of about $200 a month. remember, i live in washington, d.c. area. $200 does not stretch to very much. but my bigger point is the trump tax cut was meant that he claimed it was for the middle class but other than that $1.6 trillion, more than 50% won't the richest americans and out of the credit card.

host: ok. that's soka in virginia. he did make the point about ultimate pay or what this tax cost.e will it was that $1.5 trillion figure that was passed in december. the $400 billion budget bill was the reason. the annual amount by which the government spends exceeds revenue climb to $1.1 trillion from 2019. - host: cliffs next. your experience with tax law. he's from brentwood, california. go ahead. caller: good morning.

concerning the deficit, yeah. but apple alone is repatriating a profit, netting the federal revenues $40 billion of taxes there. and that's apple alone. and that is not budgeted in that scoring. i saw your earlier caller. the first caller i hope that he's please ed that african-american unemployment is extremely low. i'm a retired california public school teacher and this tax cut to me is $120 a month after taxes. my pension, the take home. nd i find interest in pelosi's comments, let them eat crumbs. you can see the results. you've got conner-lamb in 2018. and pelosi is doing very well. he's a great candidate. really good on tv.

he's running away from tv while he's shooting his machine guns in pennsylvania. he has a chance of winning. host: cliff, at $120, what do you plan do with it? caller: whatever i want. host: nothing particular? caller: can i have 30 seconds to talk about something slightly different with me? host: no. we're going to keep this topic. not only that with mr. lamb being one story, but then the other story coming out of that are the ads about mr. lamb, particularly when it comes to this idea of the tax cut law. here's two of those ads currently running. >> republicans have spent millions on negative ads but they never mention conner lamb spending the cuts. or that their next step is to

cut medicare and social security. all those negative ads and so little truth. choose conor lamb for honest leadership. >> i'm conversion and on i approve this message. >> a 2,900 middle tax cut for our community. now businesses are giving workers raises and bonuss and creating jobs yet nancy pelosi and conversion caron still opposing your tax cuts. lamb calls it a betrayal and pelosi calls it -- this is armageddon. >> lowsy and lamb. too out of touch, too many taxes. host: they are highlighting businesses that they say will take that tax cut and use to it benefit the workers. they left a series of those businesses on the website at americans for tax reform, atr.org.

one said me and my workers make below $20,000 and we saw a decrease in our pay. again, the impact of the tax law on you. this is john from maryland. go ahead. caller: hey, how are you doing? thank you for c-span. host: thank you. thanks for calling. go ahead. caller: yes. so i make over $75,000 a year and my take home benefit i guess benefited to the tune of about $240 a month. now my wife makes right around $60,000 and she benefited about $50 a month. so while it's been a net positive for us living in the d.c. metro area, that doesn't stretch too far. we have an overall concern about the total cost of this compared to the benefit it's going to have to our household on a day-to-day basis. host: as far as -- i know that you talked about the amount you have specific plans for it? or is it something that you fold into the regular budget in your

household? how does that work? caller: yeah, we're going to just go ahead and squirrel it away. every little bit helps but the cost of living out there is so high it's not going to make a material difference in our day-to-day lives. host: indiana, pennsylvania. brenda is there. good morning. caller: hey, good morning. as far as how it benefitted me, i'm getting about $22 extra a month on my take-home pay and stuff. but where it's going to benefit me when i file next year is it never really had a lot of deductions to, you know, do an itemized deduction but since they have doubled the standard deduction, that will benefit me. but families that have more than one child, i believe that they are going to lose because as the current law is now, families get a $12,000 standard deduction plus $4,000 per person in the

family. now, since they've doubled the standard deduction and eliminated the personal it a on that only makes benefit if there's only like a mother, a father and one child. then you'll kind of -- that's a zero sum game. but if you have more than one child, you're actually going to as a ing $4,000 per child deduction against your adjusted gross income so much families with multiple children might not make out on this if they just go with the standard deduction. they could actually be losing $4,000 per additional child. and people should like kind of pay attention to this. host: ok. robert off of twitter saying increase is in the paycheck if any will not cover the cost of living. it always happens, he adds. let's go to walt in pittsburgh,

pennsylvania. caller: hi, c-span. how are you? >> i'm fine. o ahead. caller: it's a wonderful job you are doing here. host: so as far as the tax laws, the impact on you? caller: well, i'm on a fixed income. it's really not doing much for me. but with my kids t doing wonderful for them from what i and see from what they tell me. and of course, i don't work for the government. they're not growing up like schilling for government workers and trying to get the democrats back in. host: what are your kids telling you about what they're seeing? he's gone. let's go to charles, jasper, indiana. hello. caller: yes. why don't we have a flat tax? isn't that fair to everybody? host: let's turn it around to

the topic we're talking about. the impact of the tax cut on the individual watch. have you seen so far? caller: i don't care for it at all. host: you've seen nothing though week after week or no? caller: no, i don't care for it at all other tax business and different rates. let's have one flat tax for everybody, which is fair. host: ok. you've mentioned that. so in our first hour for 20 minutes or so, you've heard some of the experiences people have had with the new tax law. in some case, making a little impact, some more. some concerned about the overall debt that it will add to the federal government. you can make those thoughts known and other aspects. 202-748-8000 for those under $25,000. 202-748-8001 if you're in that bracket between $25,000 and $50,000. and it's 202-748-8002 if you fall between $51,000 and $75,000. if you're one of those that makes over $75,000, call us at 202-748-8003.

democrats on capitol hill yesterday brought up the topic of the tax law particularly as they were trying to sell an infrastructure plan. $1 trillion price tag on that plan. and in order to pay for some of it or a portion of it, they want roll back some of the tax bill, particularly when it comes to wealthy americans. here's so much that dialogue from yesterday. >> as the more people learn about the tax bill, the less popular it's becoming. it had a bump in january. we're finding in our states, the popularity's receding because people are seeing that that money is not going to jobs. so the contrast is great. when it goes to stock buybacks that in rich wealthy corporations and the top ends of shareholders, people don't like it. when they hear it increases the deficit and now ryan and others are proposing to cut social security and medicare, they don't like it. we aim to use this as a contrast. here's what you can do with that

money that really makes a difference to you and makes your life better and creates jobs. so we're very positive about going full steam ahead showing our plan and the contrast of what the republicans want to do with the money. it's a loser for them. host: there's an op-ed in the "wall street journal" about those -- the idea of stock buybacks and the like. this is joseph, business owner in florida. he says i run a family-owned business in florida that bakes more than 12 million sugar-free cookies a day in decision to other diabetic products a day. for years, i sent 50% of my business income to the government --

host: maybe you're one of these small business owners yourself and you want to give that perspective yourself too. just call the line that best represents you. let's go to john from penn valley, creative. hello. caller: hello! i'm very happy. i think it's just fine. it's doing really well for me. i'm only $52,000 a year, not very much. compared to a lot of people, but the thing is that i have zero deductions and i add to my zpate federal last year. i got $4,000 back. this year, i'll get a little more. i split that in half and invest half of it and get a new washer and drier. that's what i've done. i think that people that are upset, you have to learn to save

and work the system. they say get all the deductions you can. that's ridiculous. you do that and what are you going to do with the $100 or $200 a month? you're going put it in the bank and get 2%? 2% wouldn't get you a postage stamp to send the material if you do it land line, snail mail. you won't get anything out of it. but yet at the same time, if you get that $4,000 and you split that in half and invest in the stock market or bonds or whatever, you get a greater return. plus, you have a little nest egg to do whatever you want like myself with the washer and drier copy felt great. host: ok. johnny is next in florida. hello. caller: yes. hi. give an opinion -- i

wanted to say that it's very important who voted for trump because the people that voted for trump are really separated with the people that voted for hillary clinton. so i just wanted to put that out there. host: johnny, because we're talking about the impact of the tax law since you called in what's been the effect zoun caller: the effect on me has been, you know, my family, my religion and -- host: forks particularly to the tax cut. are you seeing more or less in your paycheck after you've seen through the passage of the law? >> oh, yeah. i see it. i know. i feel it. host: what are you seeing? particularly in numbers specifically? caller: specifically? host: yes. caller: i'm seeing probably, you know, you know from day-to-day, from week to week or from year

to year? host: let's go to david in georgia. david in georgia, good morning. caller: thank you, pedro, for taking my and all thank you for "washington journal." i'm on a fixed income. i'm retired and i'm an elected official in my community. however, i do my children's taxes and i did a comparative with the previous years to my sons and showed him the economic factor here. he's going to get an extra $5200 on the tax rebate. he has acquired two children. so the factor that if it's more than one children, the lady who called in before, there's no benefit. that's wrong. and if he breaks that down, i explained it to him -- first of all, i got a $22 a week raise because of it in his job. so if he breaks that -- just the

federal part, which is $5200, he breaks that down and adds that to his paycheck, that's an extra $122 a week. for someone that makes $75,000 a year, that's big. and if you -- if for every dollar spent in a local economy, it gets turned over six times. this is what you do. you spend that money. and then you estimate your own local economy -- stimulate your own local economy. this is a big advantage. i'm very pleased with it. host: that's david in georgia talking about his kids' experience particularly as he works on his taxes. you can add to that as well. normal folks are happy have a few extra month to spend on their family. and michael says my household makes around $100,000. the tax plan is around $100 additional each month. i'm not explaining but it's going off paying existing loans

not buying which what is really needed to estimate -- stimulate the economy. a couple of things to show you. "the washington post" headline talks about the president and the administration as of yesterday. reportedly said go today as far as signing those tariffs and aluminum products. there are questions about if that will happen or not. stay tuned to c-span.org for more information on that. the "wall street journal" reports on trade deficits. new figures were reported yesterday saying that the department reported the trade deficit rose to $56.6 billion from $59.9 billion in december marking its highest levels since october, 2008. f not for americans on --

host: that's the reporting in the "wall street journal." again, to the idea of tax cuts and telling us your experience, archie from laurel, maryland. hello. go ahead. you're next. caller: hi. so people have talked to me about the changes in the tax law with regards to mortgages. so f.h.a. and p.m.i.'s were taken out of the new tax laws. so people with f.h.a. loans don't get that deduction anymore. so even though i'm getting $200 a month, i'm still, you know, losing when it comes to filing my taxes, you know? so it's kind of a switch. you get some more money on your paycheck but when you file your taxes, what you're used to get, it's totally different.

host: on the mortgage side, you're going to lose out. that's what you're saying? caller: yet. i'm losing out about $3,000, yes. host: do you have ways to compensate for that loss? are there any kind of tax -- i don't know how these kind of things work. is there anything do to limit the damage that way? caller: no. so there's a box five on your taxes that you actually put in and that box is gone. you cannot -- there's no option for that. it's totally gone. you have to go on all the tax software websites, they'll tell you it was not renewed this year. it was canceled. so, again, you're making money one way and some other way, you are losing it. i have to pay for the taxes somehow. i don't know how to describe it but it's not -- it's not what it seems to be. host: you live in maryland. what about state and local incomes will? how is that going to all this?

caller: so that did not change. my local taxes did not go up. everything stays the same. it's just the mortgage insurance part that changed on my tax this ear. host: that's archie. you can weave easy to into the conversation too. diana this connecticut. good morning, diana in hartford. hello. caller: good morning, yes. i did benefit from the tax cut. i am a retired teacher. i make less than $50,000 and i receive an extra $100 a month which i'm thrilled about. i know that's not a lot to a lot of people, especially the wealthy democrats that were in office like schumer who always wants to use the excuse for raising taxes because it's on the wealthy. it's not -- he doesn't pull the wool over my eyes.

democrats will use any excuse to raise taxes. i'm thrilled with mine. i did send my new tax form -- pension paper to my c.b.a. person because he will let me know whether or not how it's going to affect my end of the year taxes. it's interesting because people are calling in with all kinds of information. i ask my fellow that does my taxes and he said that he's been going to really long meetings because it is such a complicated process. he couldn't give me any information and even the retirement board couldn't give me any information because they don't have the tax table. so i don't understand how people can call in with all this information when it's not, you know, not even known to these people and fathers my state taxes, do i have to give malloy credit even though he's taxed the bejesus out of us.

for teachers, he did give us an allowance on our taxes at 25% cut. we were supposed to get 50% but because we are in such debt in this state and he can't figure out how to tax anyone else, he did tax the wealthy at the beginning and then found out that we don't have the revenue because the people that are wealthy left the state. host: so a question. that extra $100 that you are going to see, what are plans for it? is that saving or spending? what are you thinking? caller: mine is going to go towards my cost -- i don't get -- you know, the cost of living that i would get is based on what the social security would get. and out of the eight years that obama was in office, five years, we did not get a cost of living. i'm just thrilled that i can have a little bit of money to help pay off some bills and

that's what i plan on using it for. is just kind of taking a breath and saying oh, gosh, i have, you know, a little bit more at the end of the month that i can use to, you know, put -- everything goes up. my oil constantly goes up. food products go up. that's what i'm using it for. host: gotcha. thank you, diane. i appreciate the call. wendy in michigan. you're next up. hi. caller: good morning, pedro. how are you? host: i'm well, thank you. caller: last year when i did my tax, i didn't pay anything and i didn't get anything back. this year, i am in the process of making my -- getting my taxes ready to go in and i haven't really seen anything yet. my social security did not go up. i got the same amount this year as i did last year and i'm kind of wondering about that. and then next year with my -- with the stuff that i'm keeping my charity deductions and my

medical bills and my prescriptions and everything, i am still keeping those because i don't know if we're going to be allowed to take those for deductions. i figured hold on to them and then if you need -- if you have to use them, they're there. but so far, i haven't seen any impact on my thing because i'm retired and nothing really changed. host: ok. for about a half-hour or so, we've been asking you if you would, tell us about the impact of the tax law upon you. a lot of people bringing a lot of different topics under that. and you can add yours to the conversation as well. through the phone lines, through twitter, on our facebook page. we'll continual on with those calls after couple of the stories to show you this morning. the special counsel has gathered evidence that secret meeting into shell before the inreaganuation of donald trump was an effort to establish a backchannel went the incoming

administration and the kremlin in january of 2017. the founder of the private security company blackwater met with a russian official close with vladimir putin later described the meeting to investigators as a chance encounter that was not a planned discussion of u.s.-russia elation -- host: that's "the washington post." if you go to the pages of the "new york times" this morning, the president talking about people giving testimony regarding him. this is michael schmidt. maggie haberman writing the special counsel in the investigation has learned of two conversations in recent months which president trump asked key witness about matters they discussed with investigators. according to three people familiar with the encounters, in one episode, the president told

an aide the white house council should issue a statement denying a "new york times" article in anuary saying -- host: the "new york times" story did add and talked to legal experts saying that mr. trump's contact with the men most likely did not rise to the level of witness tampering but witnesses and lawyers who learned about the conversations view them as a problem and shared them with mr. mueller. that's the story on the "new york times." deshaun in washington, d.c., your experience with the new tax

law. you're next. go ahead. caller: hey, you know, honestly, i feel like it's benefitted me. and, you know, for a lot of the callers on the line who say, well, i don't know, this is negatively going to impact me in the future come tax time next year. it's important that they take a moment to save the money that they have for unexpected expenses that happen next year. you know for me, it's about $200 a pay period that i'm saving. so around $500 for the year that i'm expected to save that i'm putting up for my kids, that i'm putting up for savings or for anything that is going to come up next year. i'm hopeful and omit mystic about it. host: rochester, new york. frank is next. hello, frank. caller: hi. how are you doing this morning? host: fine thanks. caller: we're looking at probably $115 top pay period which works out to be i think $2,600 in an increase amounts of

money that we have. the only problem here is -- i live in new york and in new york , every time you get money back, they have a way of taking it back so much we've got a reassessment on property here that's happening every five years. and they make sure that they get their taxes being one of the highest property taxed state in the entire united states. host: when it comes to deductibility of those taxes, how are you affected? caller: we're going to be right at the level that we can claim on our incomes -- income tax. fortunately, the house that i live in is about probably valued -- will be valued a little over $24,000 -- 240,000, which is probably a $600,000 house anywhere else in the united states because of the taxes here . unfortunately, the value of the

house are depressed but containment -- at the same time, we pay a lot of money to live in new york state. host: i was going to ask you, as far as your support, were you one of those that supported the tax cut? were you skeptical about that and how has that changed now that you've seen it bare out in paychecks? caller: i support it from the standpoint that i'm living in new york. so if i can get some extra money to pay my taxes, that's a plus. and at the same time, i don't intend to live in new york much longer. my wife is going to retire. i'm going to retire. and we're going to move somewhere where the tax levels are better. as that lady in connecticut said, many people in connecticut and long island and wherever, they move out of the state as soon as they get their paychecks. host: ok. that's frank in new york. the president of the united states sointh a tweet when it comes to the topic of tariff. and this is what it says.

it says looking forward to 3:30 p.m. meeting today at the white house. we have to protect and build our steel and alumni industries while at the same time showing great flexibility and cooperation for those that are real friends and treat us fairly on both trade and the military." whether a signing of those tariffs come into play, that's bear is out but at least that's the president of the united states talking on the topic. angelo in massachusetts. good morning. angelo? caller: yeah. i'm against this tax cut. it adds to the national debt. republicans are always campaigning for tax cuts. been doing i since ronald reagan. and right now, the debt is so big i think vladimir putin is looking at this and he's doing whatever he can to make us spend more on national defense. host: angelo, let me ask you,

the tax cut, does it -- how are you seeing it pay out on your paycheck? caller: i'm on a fixed income. so i don't see any benefit from the tax cut but even if i was working, i don't think i would need it. is $21 the national debt trillion and we don't need this tax cut. host: ok. let's go to john, hot spring, arkansas. hello. caller: yeah, pedro, i was going to say pretty much what that last man just said. if it help me a little bit. i get about $50 more but if you head that article that you read a while ago, read it over about the difference in the budget deficit from january to december or december to january. that's how much america is putting on this credit card each month. a lot of people don't realize that. but we're going deeper and deeper in debt every month. and just never stops. it goes more and more.

i don't know, really, -- i don't understand why the republicans think we need a tax cut right now. looks like to me they need a tax increase pay off system of this money. host: the president of the united states speaking the latino summit talked about the passage of the tax law and its impact. president trump: at the center of america's resurgence are the massive tax cuts i just signed into law. now that, that's a lot of money in your pockets, no matter where you're coming from. [applause] president trump: businesses are personal. it's a lot of money. it's the biggest tax cut in reform in american history. we got no democrat vote, by the way, not one. now they're all saying mmm, maybe we should have voted. you notice they're having second thoughts? they're saying we think we made a big mistake. we didn't get one vote. and at the heart of our plan

itself is the tremendous relief for working families and small businesses. a typical family of four earning $75,000 a year will see an income tax cut of more than $2,000. that's not crumbs. slashing their tax bill in half. we nearly doubled the standard deduction, meaning a married couple will not have to pay one dime of income tax on the first $24,000 that they earn. we doubled the child tax credit because the most important investment we can make is in our children. that was big thing. when i signed the tax cuts just before christmas, it was like jet fuel for the american economy. within hours, companies began announcing thousands of new jobs and thousands of dollars each in bonuses to their workers.

over four million workers have already received tax cut bonuses and the number continues to grow every single day. as a result of our business tax cuts and reforms, the typical family will see their annual household income eventually rise by an average of $4,000 a year. host: let's hear from darlene in oregon. hello. caller: hello. well, my comment is i'm proud that the democrats didn't vote for that tax cut. it was for our corporate citizens. yes, our regular citizens. we got sold out short cheap. $50 a month here, $100. four million workers. out of three million citizens and four million of them have received benefits. host: is that what yuring seeing $50 or $100 extra?

caller: being retired, i haven't seen any benefit. so i'm looking out for my fellow citizens unlike what the republicans did. they looked out for our corporate citizenry and they threw us crumbs. and i'm sorry i had so sit through mr. trump call something different but it is crumbs when they're getting billons of dollars. stock markets down 2,000 points from the beginning of the year, folks. it was manipulated. they're using that tax money they got back to buy back their debt, to buy back their stocks, come back into the country. but the little investors still got hurt. host: let's go to billy in boston, massachusetts. caller: yes, so this is a tax cut except for where it actually imposes new taxes on university endowments, by imposing a 1.4% excise tax on that meet ours conditions that have a very high endowment.

host: is that -- does that directly affect you? caller: plus my employer because that means there's more austerity on the job market. so it's a tax cut except for where it imposes new tax breaks. and these republicans politics want to play favorites to exempt solve schools in iowa because they're constituents if you're going to tax university, tax them all. otherwise, don't tax them and don't play favorites. >> the "new york times" highlights the trip that kushner took to mexico with a meeting with leadership there over topics of trade and other issues. one of the things highlighted in that is saying this report this morning saying mr. kushner met with mexico's foreign minister but did not invite the american ambassador, a diplomat with more than 30 years of experience in the region to join him in the meeting according to senior administration official who are not authorized to speak

publicly. - host: stanley in florida, go ahead. you're next. caller: yes. how are you doing? host: fine, thank you. caller: i listen to the stock channel and i listened to warren buffett the other day and he said that with the tax cut, he will receive $19 billion more a year. he would be able to give everybody in michigan, wisconsin, and ohio $1,000 each. and he would still make out with that tax cut. and he's been a gentleman about that. he always said his secretary should pay less than he does. and as far as the tax cut, i

feel they're trying to buy votes. wait until they get this pass in november this year. host: have you -- have you seen the tax cut work out personally for you? caller: i don't -- i'm -- i have my money on and retired pension. i don't get nothing different. but you see the teachers now? they're on strike in west virginia. they make $43,000 a year. and as far as wal-mart's giving $1,000 at last, little catch that. only full-time employees got it. they don't have many full-time employees. nd then it closed 63 stores of their other stores. i forget what they call them now. they're warehouse stores. so i think this tax cut is to get a guy elected and i think it's a joke because you're going to see services cut. you're going to see -- as soon as paul ryan, they're waiting for november. host: ok. chicago, illinois. this is ray. hello. caller: yes. good morning.

finally i got through. i'm on social security. so i don't know about the taxes but why is it that finally after two years, we got a little 2% increase? why can't we get 2% or 3% every year regardless of how the cost of living goes up? the people that need the money most, they need it work. but people that are on a,ed income, we need our 2% and 3% every year. host: ok, ray, thanks. vivian shepherdson off twitter saying i got a statement from the navy this week saying my withholdings have gone down to the tune of $14.15 a month. from the "wall street journal" this morning after look at the education secretary betsy devos. this is michelle he'sman reporting that the secretary has been approving state plans that don't specifically measure the performance of minority students arguing there is no requirement

for the plans to do so but prompting democratic allegation that she's violating a 2015 law. that law passed on a bipartisan basis contained several provisions championed by democrats that requires states to collect data on the academic performances on minority performance --

host: dora is next. she's in shreveport, louisiana, asking about your experience with new tax law. dora, hello. caller: hello. how are you doing? host: fine, thank you. go ahead. what's been your experience so far? caller: well, i've been having a -- [indiscernible] my husband passed in 50 and i have kids by him so when they grow up and get out but i was still at home. and i haven't -- [indiscernible] and i'm still on it. i'm having more problems than i did ever had because of my son. he died and he willed everything to me and [indiscernible] host: ok. tyrone is next. new york. good morning. caller: hey, how are you doing? my experience with it, i see an

increase in my salary and i understand that the middle class definitely need a tax break. but i'm concerned about later on how this is going to affect us because the government have to get money from someplace and if these -- if you're talking about cutting social services and not dividing -- providing it for the public, we are going to run into a whole lot of problems. the con artists, that's what they do. they put up a front and then they end up costing us on the back end. we have to care for other people, other people that are less fortunate than us. and we losing that. host: this is mimi off of twitter saying that my husband and i work. we didn't see an increase in anything because his army retirement disability. if you go to the pages of the "new york times" this morning, they have a joint story about the trump campaign workers and

the positions they hold now within various portions of the administration. they highlight the fact that in all, more than 2,475 political appointees have joined the federal office since the president tooks office and -- host: it offers a snapchat of those he hired for political jobs in the past year -- host: there's more into the story and you can look at it for yourself at the website of the "new york times" there on the screen. randle in maine. you're next.

good morning. caller: good morning to you, sir. wraps at the end of the year? people are basically getting pennies as policy said. host: what are you getting? caller: i'm not getting a wage increase but i can see that the end of the year, you know, again, i'm look the great majority of your viewers are on social security and a pension. but there are -- there are benefits that will going to cut because they don't have the money because they've done a big tax cut for the rich and it is for the rich. that's all i got to say. host: "u.s.a. today" this morning. takes a look at veterans administration. donovan slack reporting that the department efficient that nearly every level knew for years about sterile accusation lapss and equipment shortfalls at the v.a. medical center in washington but they were un unwilling or unable to fix the problem. local, regional and national

officials had been informed of the problems since 2013 but investigators concluded "a culture of complacency and a sense of fuelity pervaded offices at multiple levels." the swhay or the investigators report finding that more than 1,000 boxes of insecured documents that contain veterans' personal information -- host: that story at "u.s.a. today." dennis, you are next up.

williamsport, pennsylvania. hello. caller: hello. yesterday, i heard the statistic quoted on america's first news that only one in four people say they saw any difference with this tax law. i also like to say that -- host: have you seen any difference? caller: no, i'm retired and on a pension, no. i have not saw any difference. i also like to say that all this whole deal with this tax cut is we're now going to have a $1 trillion budget deficit and it's going to be an excuse for the republicans to do away with social security, medicare and medicaid. thank you and have a nice day. host: one more call and that's anthony. newport, tennessee. go ahead. caller: hey. should- i don't think we have this conversation until another year and a half. host: ok. and anthony will conclude it for this first hour or so. only a two-hour program today.

the house coming in at 9:00, but two members of congress joining us for conversation throughout that hour. we'll be joined first by democratic congressman marcy kaptur of ohio talking about president trump's proposed tariffs on fuel and aluminum and how it affects workers and others in ohio and her home state and other places. and later on in the program, republican congressman jodey arrington of texas to take a look at the broken budget process. we'll get an update on that process. when we come back, after this. ♪ >> this weekend on book tv, live

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support it or not? guest: am inclined to help the steel industry. in years past i represented this is big business for us. so i want something done to prevent the territory countries of the world like china and russia from interfering in our marketplace. i want to do this in a way that is not harmful. and therefore i am looking for a targeted approach. host: what is a targeted approach looking like to you? i brought a church this morning with me that shows of all the steel manufacturing in the world, half of it in the big blue space comes from china. 2200actually manufacture

tons, annually. hereey are a major dumper and elsewhere and they distort the global markets. they need to ratchet down production. because they keep interfering with free trade. they are not a free trade country. begins to divert products to the third world countries. so i would treat them differently that i would treat canada. i come from a part of the country in ohio. wish the administration hadn't created so much fear and chaos when they announced that. because i think it in deuce unnecessary worry. ross --pe that wilbur they have worked in this industry for a large part of their lives. and i'm hoping their voices will

be ones of wisdom and good slappingnot just something on that would distort markets. there are stories about potentially retaliatory efforts from other countries, is that a concern of yours? guest: always a concern of mine. the unfortunate part -- i brought another chart to show you -- we have actually been receiving more imports or steal their exports. so the net result shows how many more imports are coming in than the bottom line versus going out. and that translates into lost jobs in places like ohio. gary, indiana. steel towns across the country. there is something really at stake here. gary: is from goldman sachs,

the head of goldman sachs. that is the finance company. they don't really care if the steel comes from china or it comes from russia. it is steel. well, those of us who are on the defense committee understand that this administration cannot conduct war without steel. the mystically we do need steel. so we're down. we have ratcheted down production in our country to the bare minimum. host: our guest is with us for half an hour. if you want to ask her about decisions on trade and how it might impact her or other countries, you can do so with democrats on the line (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. all others, (202) 748-8002. does this suggest that the u.s. industry can't produce as much

steel as we need? i invite anyone to come and look at the empty plants. the most modern plants you can imagine and they are shut down. they say maybe now they are going to hire 700 more people in ohio and there my constituents and they are hard workers and we have try to hold this industry together in a way that is modern but i have the odd experience 1.5 years ago that i was with steelworkers in front of the plant as our country was drenched with imports and later that morning i had to go to the port of cleveland and welcome the first ship loaded with imported steel. i thought that if every person in america could see what i am experiencing, their hearts would go out.

it isn't easy to work in these plants. we cannot import ourselves forward. we have to manufacture. we have to make it in america. fundamentaldes the industries like steel. i represent ohio. i have major plants such as and we use aics lot of steel. we have to be all to manufacture that. it is the only place in our country that does. it is what is left after unfair global competition has battered manufacturing platforms. there are other industries concerned with this saying they are concerned with the unintended consequences this proposal at have, higher prices for steel and aluminum in the .s. this would place the u.s. automotive industry -- which million 700 -- 7

at acan jobs -- competitive disadvantage. howdy respond? they are responding to the slapping of the 20 represent tariff on everything. the response has to be more taylor and -- has to be more tailored. this is -- i cochaired the congressional auto caucus. believe me, this is central to my own heart. i think the president did himself a disservice by announcing such a blunt approach. rather than a more tailored approach. we hope he can get to a point where the industry will not be that were read but even if you

,urchase a $700,000 car per day it is $140. still even if it were to be the , theyapproach of the 25% have a right to be concerned but i hope the president's approach will be a wise one. input forthere any you? guest: i testified in front of wilbur ross who was very open and fair and rigorous in the testimony he received. i appreciated that very much. laste expected a decision june that was forthcoming and then the administration had more in terminal commotion going on and they didn't come out with a proposalor an initial

until this march. so it has been a long time in coming. wilbur ross knows the steel market well. he even knows the plants in my district. i was impressed with his granular knowledge of what is happening. i do have high hopes. host: let's go to ed joining us from the republican line. he is from lawrenceville, georgia. they queue for calling the program. good morning. from all of my observance, it seems like all of the people in the steel unions are actually quite glad with what trump has done. i would like to ask the representative, for the most part, the democratic party seems to be against everything that

the republicans do and yet most republicans -- we are not hunter gatherers like your voters. 42% of americans haven't even saved $10,000 for their retirement. what would you like the congresswoman to address? caller: it like to say that if the steelworkers -- what i would like her to do is to be the first democrat to apologize for slavery. sue. let's go to good morning. caller: a quick question for you. i heard that gentlemen give you a hard time once about your name once andody called you called you a weird name out of the blue and you said my name is peter.

do you prefer peter? no, my name is that peter and let's direct our question to the guest. i am from amherst. is amherst part of your district? to be.it used but they gerrymandered ohio so radically that they cut the whole lower two thirds of the county out of our district. they went from the heart of cleveland through the rain. amherst is completely cut off. but many people who live in amherst work in the rain at the plant. caller: absolutely.

this is what i want to ask. a lot of the industry from lorraine has an effect on grade. because people don't think about it but the great lakes are a great source of shipping. do as farhe tariffs as the jobs that aren't actual steel jobs that are related to the shipping of the steel? a really good point how interconnected our production system is.ution i represent several ports on the great lakes. vital to our country steel industry because a lot of our or comes and is shipped down through gary and cleveland and lorraine. rail industry is related to it. the largest rail center in the country and we have massive

trucking countries to serve our automotive industry. so we do have the most highly industrialized platform in the country in our region. and it is an intermodal mix. people come to our area from other places. mean to pick on southern new mexico but i will. they come to our area. when they see what it takes to run a great industrial nation, they are impressed but it hasn't been a part of the experience. and that is one of the problems in congress is trying to convince some of our members that this part of america exists also. and we can't afford to lose it for our industrial prowess.

caller: thank you for taking my call. is, with the current atmosphere in the white house, when we are talking about coming into the epa and cutting back steel companies that were big polluters -- my question would be, do we support bringing this back in with a less epa regulations so they don't kill off the country that drove them to the high costs of doing business? now, we are to bring them back in. are the epa restrictions going to kill the country and the land ? guest: in china, you can hardly .reathe the air china needs to clean up its own backyard and so does russia. -- and steely

executives will tell you this, they have passed the clean air code and it has made an enormous amount of difference in the parts of the country that i represent. nobody wants to go backwards. america is a country about progress. i am on the energy committee. whiche of the arenas in we worked very hard with the epa is to bring new energy technology into these companies. working.an see it the platforms i am talking about have been modernized. and that is why they have a right to compete in the world. where the playing field would be level and products wouldn't be dumped and going to rock-bottom prices from people who don't earn a living wage. so most platforms have been upgraded now. and they have a right to compete. host: the george w. bush oninistration put tariffs

for a while. what did we learn? it does give the industry a chance to recover. if you look back at the bush administration and the reagan administration, when the reagan demonstration put tariffs on the imports of motorcycles because harley davidson was grasping at that point, a were able to recover. so it was targeted and effective. the same thing could happen in the steel industry if we are careful about what we do and we have dialogue with our trading partners. i assume that is what is happening inside the white house. we don't have a final document yet with fine print. what i think people are making their views known. i think it has been communication with the country of mexico on this document and i'm hoping the administration will make a measured final decision. host: what does that say to you

that there are so many republicans pushing back? so many people in the congress represent districts to our varied different. they are not production districts, they are consuming districts. and if you look at the trade deficit over the last 25 years, we haven't had a single year where we have exported more than we have imported. some places have been more harmed than other places. we cannot afford to lose our ability to save ourselves with agriculture or an industry. and we don't want close to markets but we do want the reciprocal markets. we don't have a global marketplace that is open. we need to move towards that.

but you have been taking ourselves in the foot for a long time. 2008? remember that was a real cannonball across the economy. and it has not recovered and feedback the federal finances with interest, we would be dependent and we don't want to be dependent. we are an independent country and we need to serve ourselves. representative marcy kaptur is with us. let's go to steve in blacksburg, virginia. caller: i saw her on c-span a couple of years ago and i thought you was one of the most brilliant people i had ever heard in my whole life.

i wish he would run for president. guest: you could be my campaign manager. [laughter] guest: -- back to the issue. i think terrorist make as much sense as more guns back into the school. it hurts american business altogether. it is like cutting back on solar energy and wind energy. so they can pump more oil out of the ground. we are going backwards and we need to be moving forwards. guest: i agree with the gentleman about moving forward. we don't want to have our companies that are trying to compete globally to be undermined by other countries who don't play by the rules. weaver gain market share when we

produce here at home at a competitive price with the highest quality steel in the world and we export and use the product internally. so i agree with the need for progress. and a short-term application of tariffs that are carefully structured, sending a message to those places that are not chinag by the rules -- alone has almost doubled the amount of steel that the world consumes. when you have that kind of open supply globally, it snaps out of production in many places including here. we have the most open market in the world so we tend to be the dumped market for many places in the world. and we need to be concerned about our ability to produce. certainly with a vital product like seal which is essential for the country.

host: how should mexico and canada be considered? guest: i think that mexico and canada -- leo gerard made statements today in the new york times about canada being a special place because, as i mentioned earlier, we are integrated as an economy and with mexico, we have parts companies down there that ship in. this is why the auto industry is concerned. so on this continent we have be very careful. are not the primary countries that are not playing by the rules. i think the president's decision best be one that targets the players that are not conforming to normal global trade navy or. host: we go to paul in indianapolis. caller: good morning. ours wondering whether

some of therope are bigger abusers but they are more subtle about it? use the vat as a weapon against us. they take it off exports but apply it to imports, giving themselves a 20% advantage going both ways. doesn't that affect steel and cars? affect practically everything that europe sense? don't know whether china and russia use it at the same way. guest: a very good point. this is a complexity of markets with countries like europe the cost of the health benefits

and retirement benefits using cost of production several thousand dollars a year. when the export a car to the united states, when we send a car over there, they add the tariff on. and as we go to europe, and we look around at their markets, i was apprised that only 10% of what is on the street comes from any other place in the world. they have a very regulated markets are you bring up an important point. we are one of the few countries in the world that doesn't have that structure. bills to introduced meter that kind of effect but they have never made it through. but this has ripped off the cover of a very thick look on how other countries behave compared to the united states of america. ours very difficult for competitors. street --cars on the you go, oh, what is going on here?

but when you go to the united states, look in any parking lot. which market is open? which one is closed? so we have to act effectively in the trade policy so that even though we are open, there is a point at which a country could lose its industrial spying and we are at that point with steel in this country. we can't afford to lose anymore and we can't be the victim of predatory pricing. that is what this struggle with the steel industry is all about. guests serves the ninth district of ohio. you are about to break a record next week? god willing, i will become the longest-serving woman in the history of our country and the u.s. house of representatives. and the people of our region

have given me years of a job. i never knew how long it would take to affect change. i that it would be much easier. the palais introduced early on in my career to create a world war ii memorial which was something the american people wanted, we could have gotten that done in five years but it took 17 years. it was one of the issues in my first election, going way back. i thought we would have had balanced trade amounts but this can't continue. and what drove me to public life was the number of people who lost work in my area. it was cataclysmic. host: how have the numbers change for women? guest: it has been wonderful. if it weren't for gerrymandering, we would be really represented in congress but we have quadruple the number of women.

we now have over 100. we have many more women running around the country. the statue of freedom faces east. she is smiling. and she is a woman. are you seeing any significant change when it comes to how women are treated on capitol hill? guest: there is a much greater consciousness of behavior. although you can see that we do clinker's under the hood. i do think justice will out. and we will set standards and we will have a standard of conduct.

it will apply. that will be across institutions and into ethics committees. they have been working hard on that. host: steve is next from indiana. go ahead. i think there ought to be a lot more women, a couple more hundred in congress and stuff. and maybe they could get something done right. on the free trade and stuff, and greats, i think it is that they might get a little bit back from tariffs. but i don't think it is going to orter because in october november, around there, the stock market is probably going to crash because of the tax breaks they are giving. guest: thank you.

the stock market right now is fairly happy. but the amount of money that actually went with the tax bill to the largest corporations will mean that they will get stocks and buybacks and dividends to shareholders. and higher salaries to the executives. i think they will also probably acquire a lot more companies. that doesn't necessarily mean will fall below a minimum wage. i dig it was well. it tried to create economic growth but the way it was itdled inside congress, really didn't give the american people the best bill. so that our middle class would grow. and would benefit from the kind of debt that this bill created. a lot of repair work to do as a result.

the countryhat should become more representative. and i want to say that the women that serve as we work on a bipartisan basis, i was just working with the opioid crisis countythe country and commissioners were here from around the country and they were so articulate. frankel, we had a republican and a democrat who cochaired that effort and they worked so hard behind the scenes and they don't get much recognition for what they do. let me personally say that i'm there a conscious of the voices that i am to represent here and their life experience. i am grateful to the people in my district for giving me that.

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control got the call and i was the agent supposed to take them in. and i started talking with them. there wasned out that this pregnant women who had grown up in iowa and spoke perfect english. and she was a schoolteacher in iowa. and i think her husband saw that we were talking and that we had a connection and he leaned over skip the hey, can we whole arrest and deportation thing? can you drive us back to the border and let us cross into mexico? the a brother? and i didn't hesitate, i said no. i said this is my job. i took the man. but what i remember about that encounter is asking her name. and i remember introducing myself to them and i remember wanting to remember them because i had this connection and i

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"> "washington journal continues. host: representative jodey arrington is our guest. good morning. about theu think trump administration's current plan, as we know it? right now we have an economy growing. we are seeing what i think is the beginning of an economic renaissance because of tax reform. if it is broadly applied and we have retaliation, texas does a whole lot of exporting of products. we are the lead export and the next date is 50% below. nafta is important because of agriculture.

so there are a lot of dynamics to trade. i do think the president is right in his instinct that there are people who don't play by the rules. they cheat. china is the lead culprit here when it is infringing on intellectual property. whether it is dumping or currency manipulation. they are always at the top of the list for guys breaking the wall. and being anti-competitive and not being fair in the way they operate. we have to do something. if we do something in the way of , free trade and open markets have benefited the american consumer and american economy and our allies and their quality of life. think free-trade should assume fair trade.

that is so we don't have unintended consequences. i think you have to be really careful. the bad guys. make an example. hold people accountable. won't, there are other ways to do this with our approach this year. let's do this in a way that we in't enter a trade war retaliation. one of them has inadvertently hurt sorghum producers. sorghum the largest market for the producers in this country. so i think the president's instincts are right and it is

about time that people called chinae bad actors like but it is about being smart and responsible. host: (202) 748-8000, democrats. (202) 748-8001, republicans. (202) 748-8002 independent callers. among the other things our guest does is to be tasked by the house speaker to look at the process. what mandate did he give to you? guest: he basically said what we'll know is that the process is broken. it isn't working for anyone. not for republicans or democrats or the american people. shutdown brinkmanship and vcr start and stop approach to costing american taxpayers money. it is greatly disruptive to national security. let's find common sense solutions we can agree on whether the republicans are in

power or democrats are in power. let's fund the government and do it on time and if we don't do it, there are consequences. but there are lots of nonpartisan issues to address here like maybe a budget to have more continuity. budget and of the the things driving our debt are mandatory. maybe we should look at shifting mandatory to discretionary. is another 1 -- unauthorized spending. havef the programs we find not been reauthorized. so we don't know if they are working or not working. are funding them anyway. outcome is not good for the american people. we have been unable -- congress has been unable to do that over the last 18 out of the 20 years -- we have been operating in a

-- budget. we have only had four times where congress has voted on appropriations bills before the end of the year. change and i make am encouraged as a new member to be part of reforming the process . ultimately, if we are going to get at the debt side of this, it is going to take the will of congress. was a will pass by the senate recently with a two-year budget deal but it would authorize more spending. are there concerns -- you can get something done for two years but there is more spending. guest: i don't like the fact that we increase spending. we are now looking at trillion dollar deficits. on an unsustainable path.

it is the greatest threat to the future of our country. it is the thing that keeps me up at night and i know that i speak for other members on other sides of the aisle. the tax cuts are different in this regard. we do have to grow the economy. and growingnding the economy. we have had record revenue from with historic high revenue from taxes. we don't have a revenue problem but we have to get the economy growing. if $1.5 trillion -- we will double that in the revenue we generate from a growing economy. we were stuck for 10 years with no growth. we are now seeing a great american come back. so this is different because it will contribute to revenue and reducing the deficit and debt, long-term. we have to get our military funded. we are losing training -- we are andng soldiers in training

that is unacceptable to me. host: we go to calls. the first one from maryland. go ahead. caller: since trump has so many factories in china, when it comes to helping americans get i think the republicans are going to of hypocrites because trump and his family have factories in china that he could easily bring back to the u.s. and pay people a distant wage. but trump doesn't care. trump has these factories in china and other companies like walmart with thousands of products made in china -- they can do that and have no repercussions. billions of dollars every year off of those jobs will be could be making that and working those jobs. guest: i appreciate your

impassioned views on this. whereagree with kind of you are going but i disagree with how to get there. the way to get there in terms of bringing jobs back to this country from china and other places overseas is to stop taxing and regulating our job creators in the country. we have the highest corporate income tax rate in the world. asia has below 20% and we have 36% or 37%. it will go where it can get the greatest return. are now seeing because of the tax cut and regulatory reform that we have jobs come back hundreds of billions of dollars to expand operation and create jobs, not just any jobs but better jobs. and we see wages and household income which means the quality of americans -- we haven't seen

that in a decade. we should look at the taxes and regulations and free trade. a market free from tax and regulatory burden and you will see what we are seeing now. jobs will come back and that is a good thing. tot: from florida, we talk willie. growth at 200,000 jobs is not a booming economy. ok? most of these steel jobs were union. ok? leave -- they left to break the unions. because union jobs pay well.

a big steel company in itnsylvania in the 1970's, was huge with great jobs and benefits. but they are gone. and 90% of them are union. it is the highest cost of doing business, wages. they all went overseas and they are selling the steel back to the united states. making a killing. those are the ones where obama had it right. something toiff on live here. they sell it back to the united states. i would say the first part of your comment was about the 3% growth. let's quantify the 2%-3% increase we have seen. because we have been stuck at 2% for 10 years.

so that 1% growth that we see, if we can sustain that, i think it will get acre. it represents $3 trillion in revenue over 10 years. that doubles the cost of tax reform. and you are bringing jobs back. and manufacturers will tell you is helping bringing manufacturing and production back. who am sympathetic is a guy is from the largest cotton producing district in the country and the largest cotton producing region in the world. and how china and other andtries have cheaper labor their state owned operations. i am frustrated by that because if we don't have equalizing and trade deals that recognize that disparity, they will put us out of business.

again, i sympathize with that. don't think mass terrorist and brought tariffs are the answer. tohink a targeted approach the bad guys is appropriate. so i'm with you on a lot of your frustrations. remember, 1% growth is a big deal. it more than covers the cost of the tax reform. host: this is dawn from michigan. toler: i would like to say washington, d.c., we need more people like the lady who was on. she wasn't doing political talk. she knows what's going on. i grew up on a farm and i am involved in farming but i also was a union carpenter.

i had the occasion to be in andco in the late 90's everywhere i looked there was a building at factory going up. yous being built and couldn't believe the amount of construction going on. couldn't buy aou job as a carpenter. the reason people have this idea is that there wasn't a big sucking noise. there was with us guys because it took at least 10 years to get all the roads in and factories built and laborers trained to handle it. so factory jobs didn't start leaving till the late 90's.

guest: i don't know where you was going with it. hasnafta and free-trade been a tremendous boon to our economy. on the trade deals where there is free trade. andave won on revenue expanding business operations. there are some issues that need to be addressed. on the act side it is but with respect to nafta, some of the manufacturing , we do need to recalibrate. we also need to look at labor and environmental rules and laws . we need to look at dispute and cross-border transactions and transportations. trump is looking at this

from the perspective of, let's modernize it. let's recalibrate where we need to. that putshis in a way american manufacturers and producers and consumers first. i support him, 100%. host: our guest is representative jodey arrington from texas. concerns of a hospital in washington, what does it present to you with the larger issues? the larger issue is the culture. i have sat through many disability claims, processing or modification -- there are good people there, i want to say that. but this is a failed system. a failed culture. a big bureaucracy. and they don't understand how to and deliver toe

the customer, which is the veteran and the taxpayer. there is bipartisan legislation that gave the leadership and the ba the authority to get rid of people who repeatedly will not perform for our veterans. he has exercised that over 1000 times. you don't change the culture change overnight. here is the big challenge. this is the grip of the union on the via. the chairman reported that there were hundreds of employees who spent 100% of their time on union activities. 100%. not on what they were hired to do.

the law says that this needs to be reasonable and necessary. when you need to change this. say you can't spend more than 25% of your time. so he passed it out of the committee partisan. we have to get it out of the house and the senate so i am imploring folks on your show to call your representatives and say, that ain't right. it certainly isn't the right as a steward for your taxpayer money. host: to what degree does this affect his capability of the job? guest: it calls into question his leadership and integrity of

his leadership. that is the reality. but he is saying he didn't know anything about it and i can accept that because there is a lot going on in the life of a secretary with ranking member democrats and our chairman support him. i will say -- on policy and operations, he is doing all the right things. so i take his word for it. andhis making restitution paying things back where he thought he was doing the right thing. do this thenes to that is a problem. i think in this case i accept his apology and restitution and let's focus on the good things we are doing. passed and 12 have become law. that is great bipartisan achievement. to tennessee, hi.

as trade goes, i am 100% behind trump. we need to get manufacturing back in this country. i got out of my way not to buy anything from china. lotn't buy a whole nowadays. as far as the budget goes? you guys have got -- i know the house has done their job. the senate is broken completely. i want to shut the government down until you as can get your stuff together and get a budget passed. it is ridiculous. i am 100% behind trump. we have to get our manufacturing back. i grew up in in the 1940's, we were at the top 10 manufacturing cities in the country. now, it is toryism. and that is great but service jobs don't pay a lot.

guest: we need to be a will to produce our own food and clothes for our people. and make a great american products. i think the way to go about that is to lower the cost to create these projects. costs, whichory are at trillions of dollars of cost. as what makes the trade unfair as much as anything is our own government keeping burden and cost and complexity on our creators and manufacturers. so i think we have to do the trade deals and go after the bad guys and enforce the about -- and enforce the rules. ultimately, the federal government in america has been our own worst enemy. irvine, good morning. don't: the budget, you

pay for any wars. you want to be the policeman and then you give a tax break to the rich. if you gaze the tax break to the people making $50,000 or less, that would be great. getting a 74th hundred thousand dollar year contract. plus, most congressmen are millionaires and you don't care about the average person. how are you dealing with social security by giving millions of you took this on over the last thousands of years. we finish with that. that daveake it doesn't have a hard regard for congress. and i didn't either. aroundsecurity won't be

willy children and neither medicare. they are bankrupt programs. we have to provide common sense solutions to make reforms. i am 45 years old. i think that taxes for the rich -- 90% of american people are getting at least $2000 more in their pocket. this isn't the government's money. it is the people's money. and transferring power out of washington -- we see the response for that. we see hundreds of billions of dollars of money going back into the economy. people need is better

jobs. we have 6 million surplus jobs in this country. we need labor. we need welfare reform so we can give people the dignity of work and get them off the sidelines to keep the economy going. so i think this is a ridiculous argument with respect to the collar that this is for the rich. doubling the standard deduction and saying that they won't pay taxes on their income, that is huge. it doesn't get bigger than that. doubling the tax credit for children to support families? plus, if people didn't get tax relief for the top 2% who get -- related in this country

those folks didn't get nearly what the middle and working people got. from b getting a call maryland. go ahead. caller: i wanted to ask about price control for the companies with subsidies. host: repeat that? caller: price control for the cotton industry? it brings 120,000 people work in the cotton industry. caution is part of the food and fiber for the american people. i don't know anything about price control but we do have a ,afety net and the safety net like flood insurance for coastal communities, says it is a risky business to produce food in this country.

it is a risky business with the rather risk -- with the weather so we have a safety net getssays if anything really bad, the government can provide assistance for a short amount of time. that is good for our economy. 20 milliontes to jobs. we talked about what china is doing so how about depending on china for the food and fiber? it doesn't work. we would befall herbal and we would be in a weakened position from national security. and if we didn't have hard-working doctors and farmers that got up every day to make the food that we make every day -- it shows up at the grocery store.

it doesn't. i promise you. i am from an agriculture producing region. we are running short on time. go ahead. hello. i have a question that has bugged me for years. hearing about russia, russia, russia. i grew up during the cold war. and the vietnam war. china,e with communist which is to our deficit of hundreds of billions of dollars a year and we trade with vietnam who we fought a war with. we trade with pakistan who and -- bin laden

host: we have to leave it there. a quick response? guest: open and free trade has been a good thing for this country for our consumers and for our economy. we need to look at doing more free trade agreements. especially in the asia-pacific region. that is the best way to get at the china issue, long-term. compete with them. representative jodey arrington texas. thank you for your time. he house will be in order. the prayer will be offered by the guest chaplain. pastor tony perkins, green well springs baptist church, green well springs, louisiana. the chaplain: father, we thank today. and i thank you for the men and women in this distinguished body who you have given the privilege of serving the people of this country. may they understand the unique