about her recent article on the need to movement and its impact on modern-day feminism. and a look at the role of women in the debate over gun violence with emily peck of the huffington post. ♪ [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] host: morning. it's saturday, march 10, 2018. topping the headlines on today's journal" florida's governor breaks with the nra and signs a new gun control law in response to last month's school shooting. governor rick's -- rick scott, a republican who previously rating from the nra, signed into law gun restrictions limiting the purchasing of firearms for all to 20 one, and a waitingperiod for comfort -- waiting period

for purchases. samera filed a lawsuit the day. we are asking viewers for your thoughts on the new gun-control bill in florida. if you oppose, call 202-7 08-8001. 748-8000.pport, 202- florida residents, 202-74 8-80002. . more from the washington post today -- reach us on facebook and twitter. florida gov. rick scott, republican, broke ties with allies of the national rifle association friday to sign into law new gun regulations more than three weeks after a school shooting claimed 17 lives in his state.

i'm going to do what i think are commonsense solutions. scott said there's going to be real conversation about how we .ake our schools safe the law passed by republican legislative leaders, a number of democrats, marks a major shift for gun rights legislations, including legal protections for people who use guns in self-defense, and an expensive concealed carry law. ofning us to tell us more this new law and the impact in florida is jim's call, a capital reporter for the tallahassee democrat. thank you for joining us. guest: thank you. good morning. host: give us the highlights of this bill. what exactly does it do? guest: it's a far-reaching bill. one aspect that everyone is

celebrating and agrees upon is more than $400 million for school security and mental health programs. the package also includes a three-day waiting period for most gun purchases, and raises the minimum age to purchase guns to 21. it also includes the school guardian program that has been attracting a lot of attention. this is a procedure where school and some teachers, in some cases, classroom instructors would be allowed to contest carry a concealed weapon or be armed with a firearm on school campus, public school campuses. , the scoreguardian marshall goes to a school guardian, to school guardian would be trained by the local

certified by the sheriff and authorized by the sheriff. marshall of their school guardian would have no other law enforcement authority. host: these guardians, would they be teachers, or what they be separate personnel? james call: the bill was changed dramatically. the concept changed as it made its way through the amendment process. the word that, the compromise word was exclusivity. exclusive to teaching, all that person did personch, then that would not be allowed to participate in the guardian program. that's loophole can easily be --

that loophole can easily be exploited. they were not placated by that. a very important point here, and this this, this, this was, came up early. the bill mandates that every schoolhas -- have a resource officer. a school resource officer is a deputy.heriff deputy.agreement it's an agreement between the local sheriff and school district of how that, that, that, how that

works, how that person is paid, ok? that, how that works, how that person is paid, ok? right now, the bill mandates that every school have a school resource officer. they will require in other 1550 other 1550 officers to meet that requirement. there is not enough money in the budget. here in leon county, it will cost an additional $700,000 to meet that requirement. they will have to go into their general revenue fund two, -- to, to pay for that. the superintendent and school if youas been clear that are going to carry a gun on school campus here in tallahassee, you're also going to be wearing a badge, a law enforcement officer. can you -- sorry, i don't mean to interrupt you, but can you explain for our viewers about the impact this makes? what's the gun culture like in florida, as i mentioned. governor scott previously had an a+ rating from the nra. what's the impact? james call: we're waiting to see. you know, umm, as

florida has always been a leader in gun rights. this is where stand your ground originated. these two minor gun restrictions, the three-day waiting period and 21 age limit is the first restriction past and the state legislature -- passed in the state legislature in more than 22 years. a lot of people feel the world has changed here in florida, but we've begun a conversation about gun control in florida. the nra and second amendment advocates, they, they, they are going to fight. -- they arecepting not accepting this. the nra last night, charging this is a violation of restrictions, second amendment rights. -- that age was not a determinant factor in the

massacre at parkland high school , that's all this measure does is punish law-abiding citizens under the age of 21. does is punish law-abiding citizens under the age of 21. host: all right. and, what do you think this means for governor scott? what you think this means for what dotical future -- you think this means for his political future? james call: the governor is well prepared to take on u.s. senator bill nelson on gun issues, and and scott has his talking points well rehearsed. he's ready for that battle. the steak i think for the most irt is very -- the stake think is very provided on guns. this is the first restriction years.s in more than 22

years. they will feel -- the president will feel very emboldened that this is just the beginning, to roll back some of these second amendment access laws. ,ost: our it, james call capital reporter -- all right, james call. thank you for joining us. james call: thank you. viewers,ction from our whether you support or oppose this -- these new gun control laws. brenda is calling from indiana, pennsylvania. you support the move in florida. tell us why. caller: yes, i support the measures. they are good first steps. the three-day waiting period, i would be suspicious of someone that cannot wait three days in order to own, own a gun. three days will give the person enough time to do a thorough

background check, because this information takes time. three days gives the person enough time to do a thorough background check. as far as the waiting until someone is 21, you have to be 21 to smoke, to drink. i actually believe that you should not be able to join the 21.tary until you are i believe 18, 19, 20-year-old people are actually two immature -- too immature to see the things involved in war. military people should not be able to join the military until they are 21. having people wait until 21 to buy guns, i agree with. i do not agree with arming teachers.

pack --hat is after the the fact. arming teachers to me is like administering narcan to an overdose victim. there's nothing to stop the overdose situation. my last comment is going to be very controversial, but florida has the stand your ground law. mind,s in nicolas cruises perhaps he was standing his ground against harassment and bullying he received in school. host: charles opposes this new law. he's calling from iron river, michigan. good morning, charles. caller: good morning. thanks for c-span. the previous caller took a little of my thunder away, but yes. you are denying young people their constitutional rights to bear arms. they should not be in the military. period.

they should wait until 21. but the government suffer without -- let the government suffer without. they should not have -- to deny them their rights, they should not have to defend this country. i served in the military. all people -- i believe all people from the constitution is there. without the second amendment, the rest will fall apart. you have no way to support your rights if you don't have something to back it up. thank you very much. host: can ask you something quickly? what would you like -- can i ask you something quickly? what would you like to see sure whatdo to make happened in parkland doesn't happen again? caller: i don't think you can stop that. in drugs we have, problems this country. they can't stop that. that's been decades of problems. all, i understand the

gentleman that had the problem , wasn't florida mentally a problem. -- all of these around the country as far as i know. there's no way to help those people. just yesterday, they had a guy , at the v.a. place took over the v.a.. these people need help, too. host: let's take a look at what governor scott yesterday as he signed this into effect. scott: every student in florida has to learned -- right to learn in a safe environment. every parent has the right to send the student to school knowing they will return home safely at the end of the day. helpigning legislation to us achieve that. i want to thank everybody. everybody up here had impact in getting this historic legislation passed.

[applause] [applause] this has been a time for a state for business -- this was not easy. it was hard. there's a lot of emotion involved. here,ate leaders up whether or not this would have happened without their help. their help. it wouldn't have happened without families that make sure people knew the importance of this. thank you. [applause] host: on the line from toledo, ohio. you support this effort from governor scott.why is that ? caller: hello? guest: go ahead, fran. itler: it isn't perfect, but

is a good idea. i support it. i would have misgivings about the arming of teachers for a simple reason. it's more likely they'd accidentally discharge the gun. i think it's never the right direction. james is on the line from pol pot on beach, florida. -- pol pot ohink beach, florida. what do you think? think? caller: the woman from pennsylvania, if you had to be 21 to go into the service, there'd be nobody. that's one reason. -- one thing. school,he people in the like the officers and stuff. that officer didn't go in. you know, put everything, background, called this guy 30-something times to the

police, nothing was done?! this was -- this is ridiculous. it's not the gun or the nra. it's the people inside afraid to be politically incorrect -- unco rrect. thank you for your time. host: an array was -- response to the nra suit in florida -- and an array's risk -- an nra response, a suit in florida. theessee democrats report national wrist -- national rifle association sued friday, filing a lot to be signed by governor rick scott that prohibited a bill to anyone under 21. he filed a lawsuit against the against the state from violating constitutional rights of 18-21-year-olds. marian hamper, lobbyist for the and washington, d.c., they were working on this friday afternoon, and filed this

moments before the deadline. she'd previously called the legislation "political eyewash." marjory stoneman douglas high school published -- public safety act into law, expecting oppositions from gun lobbyists. then on the line from state college, pennsylvania. you oppose this move. why? caller: well, not necessarily oppose, just i think something should be done at the federal level. with the state of washington right now, that's darn-near impossible. comment, of course there's always going to be outliers. people who are mentally ill are always going to end up paying firearms when they shouldn't be able to. the fact that an 18-year-old can go in to a store and buy an assault rifle -- and buy an assault rifle but not a sixpack of budweiser is crazy. i would love to applaud students

from that high school. they have been getting the message out. i have a ton of respect for them. i think they're going to make some changes. until something is done at the federal level, things aren't going to change, unfortunately. host: edward calling from orange beach, alabama. in support of what's happening in florida. what are your reasons? caller: number one, i employ 321 euros boys. they're dumb as a back -- 321-year-old boys. they're dumb as a bag of rocks -- three 21-year-old boys. they're dumb as a bag of rocks. 18-year-old kids having access to an ar-15. i own rifles, i shot one of them in the past three years. i'm a gun collector. the guns aren't going to hurt anybody. we had for sheriff deputies cowering into their -- in their cars while this was going on.

begged toe fbi intervene with this kid. 39 different contacts by the police department. this fell on the police and fbi. the gun did not arm itself and walked into the school. kid was a crazy person. i'm all about teachers being armed. they do it in israel because the terrorism over there, there are school shootings there. i'm all about restrictions, common sense restrictions. they -- mental health issues around the country, there are sickos out there. red flags being ignored. like an earlier caller said, most of the time, there is some kind of psychotic drug involved with mass shooters, almost i

would say 90% of mass shooters are on some kind of mind-altering drug. host: you said you support arming teachers in the school. this laws stops short. it allows for a resource officer resource officers to be armed. people in charge with teaching would not deal with this. the way to have a mass shooter coming to a place is called a gun-free zone. that tells the shooter"hey, there's no -- that tells the shooter "hey, there is no one in here with a gun." bethere is a chance you will killed, more than likely there is someone confident with a firearm, you will be less likely to go in there. host: al is on the line calling from fort lauderdale. what do you think about the law? caller: i think you're looking at this whole thing differently. why are we talking about the

gun? byarly, a president was set the broward county sheriff's office. the public is now put on notice. the police will not come in to save you. if that's the case, i have a right to protect myself more so. public. look at this. county,rnment, broward sheriff's office, was told not to go into that building. the question i have, who protects us? clearly, the police policy. how come c-span is not pressuring sheriff israel on the policy down here? what can we expect in the future? should america arm itself because now the police will not -- that's fine. the police decide they are not coming in to save us, that's fine!

that's fine, but let us know, so i can protect myself. the police do not have the responsibility to protect you. you have to protect your-self. host: tampa bay times breaks down exactly what this law does. it has a -- it has three provisions, categories. access to guns, education policy, and school safety. access to guns, the measure tweaks, makes it harder for certain people to get access to guns. there's a three-day waiting period. it raises the purchase age for all firearms from 18 to 21. it bans bump stocks, which can be used to convert; maddox to an automatic -- semi automatic automatic.an you can confiscate the weapons of a person deemed a threat over others.

al is calling from silver spring, maryland. you support these measures. why do you think this is a good idea? caller: i thinkcaller: it's a good idea because, you know, it's a first step. i have some questions. i'm not sure about the sanctions. if you violate any of the provisions, where the sanctions against individuals, and what are the loopholes? if you hold a gun raffle, do you still have to do background check? se are things the that i'm not clear. good as at may be publicity stunt, but if you don't have good sanctions in the law, this law doesn't have any value. host: smitty is calling from

florida.what do you think about this new law? caller: i don't think it goes far enough. i have a friend who's a sheriff in well, he spent 20 years developed county and st. john's. -- devout county and st. john's. in the there are holes juvenile law. he arrested a juvenile 12 times for felony car theft, and they couldn't keep the kid overnight in juvenile detention. ,one of the crime records felonies, violent stuff, is an the crime database -- is in the crime database. i'd like to find out if anybody could dispute that. they let these juveniles off, even though they commit adult crimes. separately, there's a huge hole in, according to my friend, in the paper act. -- it took him a while to

fill out the paperwork at the hospital. he saw the guy walking out on the street when he was headed to his patrol car. act, that's the law that allows people to be detained in order to evaluate their mental status, correct? caller: that's right. he said it's easier, and this is the reason you see crazy people in chicago jails. you -- he said it's easier to arrest them for some type of file and comment that they're going to hurt somebody, or they're going to hurt themselves. our failure, you can blame it on emptiedrivera when they the crazy institutions in the 80's, meadowbrook hospital in upstate new york. willarded to live up

state hospital. any new yorkers remember that? that's where they kept off the crazies. people who need to be institutionalized the rest of their lives. that's why are having these problems. this isn't a gun control problem. it's a crazy control problem. the: let's take a look at other provisions of this law, that falls under education policy. the law creates a new agency within the department of education in contact, at the state level for all things involved in school safety. year, anion a additional $500,000 annually for school mental health services. mandates a series of changes at the school district level, requiring districts to lift referrals to mental health services at the time of enrollment. it also requires that establishes a student crime watch program for which students can anonymously report suspicious activities to

authorities. it sets up a threat assessment team that will monitor and work to prevent potentially dangerous situation in school -- situations in schools. it will grant at least $100,000 per year depending on students in the district to pay for enhanced mental health services that will also be available to charter schools brad. is on the line calling from london, kentucky. you don't like this new law, brad. why not? caller: i support the legislature's ability to pass legislation, their governor's ability to pass legislation. how can this not be looked at as a value? it's the constitutional infringement. , who can buyd tobacco and use it, gentlemen's clubs, who can join the peace

corps. how is this not a constitutional infringement? maybe we should limit executive power. they've proven to be warmongers. 18 to 21-year-olds can be prescribed opioids. host: do you think that it goes too far, because it requires all bans all sale to firearms to people under 21? rather than just prohibit certain high-powered weapons from being sold to younger could still-- they buy a regular rifle or handgun. caller: the type of weapon is not here nor there. it's limiting constitutional rights of people. i don't see how it can hold up. host: ok.

david is on the line calling from south carolina. he supports this measure. david, why? i don't like't, everybody walking around with ak-47s. you noted in -- you know what i mean? this is crazy. what happens to children in kindergartens? these guns, everybody has an ak-47, stupid. backto have machine guns then. they don't have machine guns. thenlet them have them, give the district -- that's bad if not worse. one they gets to carry laws passed. , nobody was crazy back then. somebody like al capone. this.me ask you all people prohibits

from the age of 21 for buying -- under the age of 21 for buying any handgun. do think that goes too far, or should lawmakers focus more on the kind of guns you are talking about? caller: they should be focused on what kind of guns. war, tons are made for kill people. i hear people say "oh, if everybody has it, no one will get killed." that's stupid. [laughter] host: the secretary of education supports arming teachers in the classroom. the hill reports education secretary betsy devos, says states should consider arming teachers as a way to protect the shooters.m communities should consider this . an interview said here sunday. this say not all teachers should carry firearms.

for those capable, this is one solution that should be considered. every community is going to address this issue in a different way, she says. arizonaine calling from . you oppose this new law, susan. what about it to disagree with that? caller: ok. i oppose it, then i don't. there's nothing in that law, and i agree with some of it. there's nothing in that law identifying, say something, do something. i mean, in florida, they had so googleings, everything, about this child. he needs mental help. they can't put him in a hospital and gave him help. my daughter got a gun. a little one. she went to classes, to learn

how to shoot with it -- to the field to learn how to shoot with her dad treated she learns everything -- learned everything about the safety of a gun. she did a background check and got cleared. she has a safe, her home protected because she can't walk to her car without worrying about somebody jumping her.these -- this is her apartment in arizona. it's a mess. i agree with scott, is that his name, the governor? host: yes. caller: i have in my computer. they need to put more in it, give out more information. say something, do something, see something, say something. you know what i mean? there's a lot of mental hospitals closed in arizona. i know people that would love to get them help. insurance won't help them. calling from new

jersey street you support this measure that governor scott signed into law. why is that? caller: thank you. of the issue, mental health for people who should have -- shouldn't have guns. there's also the other side. it's a mental health issue when aople think they should have hold of these guns because of the second amendment, which is not true. there's a collar earlier -- there's a whole mental health issue about the need to have these guns. that's where focus should be. why should everyone that someone have -- why should someone have military style weapons? imagine if your neighbor had one of these. there's no need besides killing people. there's a mental health issue about people thinking they have the right to have these. they don't have the right to

have machine guns. do you follow what i'm saying? host: yeah. how do you address that, legislators address that issue? caller: it's the guns. get rid of, there's no second amendment that does not allow people -- that allows people to have military style guns. just doesn't. it was clear. to think otherwise is a mental health issue. get rid of military style weapons. the government has seen a tremendous decrease -- >> other headlines. washington post reports that the white house is muddying the prospects of talks with north korea, the white house had confusing messages about the prospects for a historic meeting between president trump and north korean leader kim jong-un

raising questions about a summit announced less than 24 hours earlier. white house officials say nothing has changed since trump accepted the invitation from kim. sarah huckabee sanders up here to layout new conditions, demanding concrete, verifiable action. left unclear whether the white was restating terms of the meeting, given the timing of the talk. the white house insisting on concrete actions, appears to be in response to criticism that trump accepted to quickly without extracting enough concessions beforehand. rosalie calling from ohio on the line. you oppose the law. why? caller: it's not the gun. it's the school kicking kids out of school when they need help.

does that make any sense? why not keep the kid of school -- kid in school, find out what the problems are? bad they don't help the kid instead of trying to get rid of the guns. i think school needs to step up and teach these kids, try to find out the problem how does it help to kick a kid out of school for anything? that's only making matters worse. that goes for everything. the kids that should be supporting somebody like this, trying to find help -- host: ok. matthew is calling from virginia from virginia beach, virginia. you support this law. what about this draws your support? caller: i support mental health issues. we --e to remember that

mental health during the reagan areas -- eras. i'm telling you, america. we've all just about -- we all just about have a mental health issue when we don't recognize words of wisdom given by spiritual leaders such as church. "theys in the word of god nation that turns his back on god shall be -- in hell." we need wisdom. we are people with mental health issues. -- we have people with mental health issues. we need to help them, more love in the world. there is no love. everyone turns their backs on love and the word of god. we need to change our hearts and and minds. the world will be better. what's a gun for? to kill people. to kill people.

we need to stop, think, and listen. were centered on war all the time -- we are centered on war all the time. i don't understand it. thank you, c-span. host: from the washington post " president trump has issued his second pardon of his administration to a navy seal or -- seal-er. president trump pardoned a former navy seal-er convicted for -- national information -- leaking of national information. hillary clinton was alleged to have been treated to lenient the in an investigation of how she handled classified material. 31 of vermont, a second person to be pardoned by president trump. farmer arizona sheriff -- former arizona sheriff joe arpaio also pardoned." an aggressive public campaign waged for the pub -- pardon. -- kristianrson

saucier pleaded guilty to one count of unauthorized possession of national defense information, admitting in photos that they were in classified spaces. as soon as i can find red button to push and. all in from arlington, texas -- push in -- find the right button to push in. calling in from arlington, texas. you don't support this. why is that? caller: it's an issue that doesn't exist. what we are talking about his mental health. kid, he's not mentally ill. it's not people committing mass killings, its white men committing mass killings. 88% of mass shootings over the last 30 years in this country, white males.

they want to give benefit of the doubt saying, white men can't crimesy commit these unless mentally ill. wake up, america. 88% of crimes committed by blackman gives you -- citizens for crack cocaine, 10 years, stopping first. people calling about mental health issues, nonsense. he had a make america great again on in his instagram post. he was a white nationalist, part of a group like many mass shooters in this country. it was their ideology, what they believe in. let's get off this nonsense about mental health. this kid was not mentally ill. he didn't need help. he wasn't born in a broken home. excuse people are using, a non-issue. conversationreal about who is really committing these crimes.

crimes. host: davis calling in from armstrong creek, wisconsin. you support the move. good morning. -- dave is calling in. caller: i support sensible gun legislation. after all, the word regulation -- i've been a gun owner all my life. i'll be 66 tomorrow actually. i think this is a societal problem. ur kanchan -- our country is the only place this happens with regularity. we have a problem. to my understanding, a republican congress stopped any serious concerns into the causes behind gun violence. teachers, mostg of these shootings, this is an exception to the rule. this kid walked out. in with the idea

that they are not coming out. they are committing suicide. i don't think arming anybody is going to stop them. it might encourage them to go in. that might be the first person they shoot. this is a lot your problem than the regular issue is. we need to get down to the basic causes behind what's going on in this country. this is a singular issue in our country that doesn't happen anyplace else in the world. i thank you for letting me speak. host: karen calling from indiana. calling from indiana. you support the law. caller: thank you. i enjoy your programming. that you know, the nra doesn't control all the government legislature in this country. i also deeply opposed arming teachers. -- oppose arming teachers.

police teachers, officers coming in, there can be mass confusion. it can because for unnecessary bloodshed, especially eating able to identify who the target is, you know? host: let's take a look at tweeted reactions to the new law signed by governor scott. the nra tweeted "breaking, new adults 18-20 of second amendment rights, unnecessary -- on all firearm purchases. all firearm purchases. this punishes all gun owners for the criminal act of a deranged and visual." a tweet from @moms demand action. " the legislation is just the latest proof point that the nra's political power is quickly

corroding." corroding." another from a u.s. senator marco rubio of florida. "today, governor scott signed a law that makes florida's -- .lorida safer it provides federal funding for many measures of the florida law, and has bipartisan support. let's get it passed." fromsa is on the line foreman beach, florida, if i can get my phone lines to work. there you are, melissa. you are a florida resident jury what do you think? caller: having lived in florida about 30 years, governor scott has no credibility as far as gun issues. six-send it -- 6-7 years ago when i wrote an editorial of -- in my paper about it, he passed a law that went after doctors talk to parentso

about gun safety in the home. talk to parentsors were about gun safety in the home. o all these doctors were -- to talk to parents about gun safety in the home. all these doctors were doing was telling people about dangers, to make sure your gun was secured. the nra went crazy. governor rick scott punished doctors. it was a case that was over road. the doctors weren't punished. children, little toddlers afterwards were found with their parents guns. many times, they ended up shooting a sibling. i hope governor scott -- i hold governor scott responsible. the issue now, when they talk about -- this would never work. in japan for you could have a gun, they give everybody a psychological test, profile to see if you are ready to have a gun. there's a lot of people that have anger issues that can't control their impulses. they haven't been adjudicated as

mentally ill. they are sick people stockpiling weapons. you get these colors every once in a while that will say, we are protect in the second amendment against the radical government. this bothers me. what kind of mentality is that, when you are stockpiling guns and ammo -- and they are. they call in on these right-wing talkshow radio shows and brag. one or other -- one other issue. the ar-15, the damage it does to the human body. i'm tired of gun owners saying you don't know anything. i know it makes a hole in a child's body bigger than a baseball go through golden flesh -- bone and flesh. yeah. weapon? this there something mentally wrong with people that need those weapons. host: robert calling in from tuscaloosa, alabama. you don't like what governor scott did. why is that? caller: i'm a former teacher.

that's a crazy idea. i don't care who says. to you, the commentator. vendors when the brother from texas -- to you, the commentator. -- when the brother from texas was talking about white people -- there are no white people. look at your church, there -- they are people of color. conversation, they tell people to get rid of their arms. it's crazy. white folks want to take guns away from people of color, but they want the rest of them to have guns. they commit all the crime. i do believe mental problems are for so-called white men -- from so-called white men. you take the guns from all these white men who run around talking about killing people, they want to kill the world. this is what they will run.

this on theout basis of god and jesus. these people committed genocides. listen. the original person is not white men, but the majority of them, something is wrong with those guys. host: all right. a headline of washington post reporters. the eu, officials at the eu are looking at how they will respond to president trump's proposed tariff on steel and aluminum imports. haveean union, officials tried it. the 28th eastern bloc will be excluded from steel and aluminum tariffs. caveat that countries with a security relationship could seek an exception. eu trade commissioner cecilia shared said that europe concerns about the steel -- shared china is concerned --

concerns. it's the wrong way to address the issue. the shared concern of over -- they share a concern of overcapacity in the steel sector. this is not the right way to deal with it. mark is on the line from chicago. you support what governor scott did. why? caller: good morning. i think i may have called in the wrong line, but the problem with -- this doesn't enforce. finessn't make monetary for anyone who violates. if you are going to put teeth into gun control, there must be substantive rules. for example, if a dealer sells this gun in violation of this new law, why should there be a

$50,000 fine or five-year penalty for going to jail? there has to be some penalties that make it substantial. host: jimmy is calling on the line from moorestown, tennessee. by oppose the new law governor scott. tell us why. caller: i grown up around guns. life. --ad one's giving to me given to me on my ninth birthday. people don't understand. something they might. say you have a car that looks like one -- in nascar. are a standard gun. monte carlo, i put stickers on it, looks like a nascar. it's no different than the other

one under the hood. that's the difference between nar -- an ar. if they banned guns like them themwould take, they would take, ---about guns. it's an automatic. it's just an automatic. that's the same thing the guns are. it's not a military weapon. you've's just been -- added mag wheels to the car. host: the florida law does not target ar's specifically.the limitations it puts on all guns, raising of the age limits purchase and the three-day waiting period that applies across the board. caller: if you put a three-day waiting period, you're putting the gun shows out of business. most of the time, they can go to a gun show. i went to a number of them.

they can run a background check while you were there. -- while you are there. you have a background -- you can have a background check ram on you -- ran on you. people screaming for gun control haven't, they don't know the difference between a fully automatic, semi automatic. it's a lack of knowledge. have, i've taken numerous people with me to the shooting range. s]ize -- sigh it's amazing when you watch them. you can tell that they don't have a clue! host: alright. brad calling in from atlantic beach, north carolina.

you also oppose this. good morning. caller: good morning. --t: what you oppose this why do you post this? caller: i'm a white male. i don't own a gun. i think that, back to a couple colors -- callers, there's no love in this world anymore. christianity, to god, it doesn't matter if it's in ar. it could be a nine millimeter, you know? guns are made for killing. stateflorida is the only where can control measures have been imposed.

state where can control measures have been imposed. oregon governor, also buys a gun -- signed a gun control bill according to governor -- their law. the bill, legislature sent to her last month. --additional set of must domestic abusers, people under restraining order -- orders from buying or owning guns or ammunition. sign the bill on the steps of the capitol as onlookers cheered. among them were high school students who had come to meet. her decision was no surprise, she was the one who introduced the bill. she named it among her top , a loophole allowing individuals guilty of a abuse therestraining orders -- person living with them does not have children and is not married to them. -- with them. calling fromand -- wisconsin. you support the governor.

why? caller: i do. thank you for my call. i'm a mom with a son who is severe autistic. he's 24. 18, we went through the court system. it was 3-4 pages of all his rights, constitutional rights. they pulled all his rights except his gun rights. his autism, he cannot read, write, color, anything. he does not even understand danger, that guns can kill people, and trains if you stood on the tracks it's going to kill you. you wonder out in the street, a car can kill you. -- wander out in the street, a car can kill you. he does not grant -- grasp danger, or a concept. what i tried to explain to -- when i try to explain to this judge that my shun -- gun should not have a -- my son should not

have a gun because of his mental illness, he said that's his right to bear arms. you took his constitutional rights away for boating -- voting, because he can't read. you give him a gun with a manual, he won't know how to read a manual." when i left the courtroom, that was one right left in place. i don't understand how the courts can allow this to happen. that's my story. thank you for taking my call. a tweetrlier, we read from senator marco rubio who said he supported the iowans back before congress here -- act before congress here. let's look at what the minority leader said on the floor thursday, signaling that democrats would support the bill. minority leader: we have been urging and pleading for that bill to be brought to the floor over and over and over again,.

the national rifle association does not support the bill. i can't understand why. either we bring a bill to the schools, iwill help think that's positive, do what they can do right now. should we help them? of course. we ought to not to pretend that we are -- we ought not to pretend that we are doing something to make children safer in their schools, concertgoers peoplechurchgoers safer, who go to a nightclub safer, people who go to shopping centers safer. we do not know whether the bill will do that. checks,nsive background do it all? it will not.

to be done -- there are other things i think ought to be done. at minimum, the american people think we ought to make sure everybody who purchased a weapon has a background check, to make sure they are not a criminal, some study -- somebody with a substantial mental health problem that makes them unsafe to own a gun. host: students of parkland continue to make advocacy heard. the washington post profiles one student who was in the white meeting withek, lawmakers on capitol hill as well. the 2016 election was the first time he paid attention to politics. he likes what donald trump had to say about immigration law. for thened twitter middle ground. he had a thank you to hillary clinton for defending parkland.

also national president, -- and met with the first lady this weekend as well as lawmakers. also national president, -- and met with the first lady this weekend as well as lawmakers. also on the line from kentucky, you support what happened in florida. paul, why is that? caller: well, uhh, the whole key is to try to uhh, protect our students in school. it should be. i think uhh, i think uhh, the gun law is a good step. step. there are several things we can do more. i'd love it if we uhh, they closed the school grounds, and put to national guard people on guard duty. everybody at school had one gate to get in. i believe that would stop things. someone spoke there, a couple people spoke there. it's white men that do this.

it's not about racist things. it's about stopping and protecting our kids. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] the simple thing to do. the other is pass a law that anyone that carries a gun on school grounds, kids or otherwise, who do harm to schoolchildren at minimum -- a minimum of five years in a penitentiary. if it is a school kid that does thing.he same a minimum of five years. host: coming up, wake forest university economics professor will be here to discuss the and the trumpbers administration's trade policy and later on we will take more of your calls and comments. stay tuned. we will be right back.

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numbers and the new economic climate under president trump. the wall street journal has a headline that a hiring boom is drawing workers back and the new jobs numbers spell good news for the administration. joining us on the phone to help explain this is an economics reporter with the wall street journal. thank you for joining us today. guest: thank you for having me. host: give us the top lines on these jobs numbers. guest: this was the report that came out on friday for the month of february and the top line number that we look at is hiring and it is really strong. in,000 new jobs added february. that is the largest monthly gain since july 2016. it is above the average we have seen lately and it is surprisingly strong given we would expect at this point to see hiring slowing down. and we have seen a growing -- a

slowing trend in the last few years. countryly as a approaches full employment. this was a strong number and it caught a lot of people by surprise in a good way. the unemployment rate in february was 4.1 percent, the fifth straight month it has been holding there. the lowest level since the end of 2000. the really good news was behind that number. more than 800,000 americans joined the labor force last month. that is a big number. thatu take out the months the census was hiring, it was the largest one-month increase since 1983 and the labor force. is so strong that companies are so eager to bring workers in and give them jobs that it is pulling people into the labor force coburn not there , who were not unemployed. table who were on the sidelines

are finding work. that is a good sign for the economy. people who we thought might not be able to find work are finding work. in thishere was a cloud report it was on wage growth. strong numberse in the month of january for wage growth. it moderated a bit in february. average hourly work -- earnings were up 2.6% from a year earlier. not bad but still at the pace of inflation. people are getting an increase in their real incomes but it was weaker than we saw the prior month and that is a little surprising. we would expect at this point with low unemployment, companies would be raising wages to attract workers and compete for them. we are not seeing that as much. host: as the wall street journal reported, companies have added to their roles for 89 months,

extending the long getting -- the longest streak on record. there is a lot of talk about who can take the credit for this. is this because of the efforts of the trump administration? is it his predecessor? both? guest: it is hard to say and presidents always take credit for the good news that happens on their watch. i think we can say that the economy is adding a lot of jobs. job growth is stronger than what we thought it would be at this point. at the same point, this is the continuation of a very long trench. we have been adding jobs for 89 months. jobntinuing long's -- streak long before donald trump begin president. participatione rate ticked up and that is good news. it has been pretty stable for the last few years. this is a continuation

of long running trends we are seeing in the same time, president -- donald trump as president and he is taking credit or what is happening under his watch. he would take the blame if it was bad. there might be something to keep that in mind. largely -- this is we have not seen a lot of breaks in the data in the jobs data with the election. economy a lot like the is on a strong path, stronger than it has been for a few years. it looks a lot like what we have been seeing for some time. what is surprising is that we are seeing such strength so late in the cycle. sosee continued strength many years after the expansion began. economists think you should see hiring tapering down because there are not enough workers available to keep adding this many jobs. and now we are seeing people rock back into the labor force. host: and what might this mean

for the federal reserve? for interest rates? the federal reserve has been on a path of raising interest rates slowly. there was some thinking that the fed might have to move faster if they see wage growth and inflation rising faster than they expected -- they would want to raise dressed rates faster to keep that in check. i think what we saw in this report is the fact that wage growth was more modest, and the hiring seems to be pulling so many people into the workforce, they begins the federal reserve more room to keep interest rates low for longer. the fed might not need to feel the need to raise rates faster to keep inflation in check because we are not seeing the evidence that the economy is overheating at this point. at the same time, the fed has signaled it is going to increase -- keep increasing interest rates.

it is really a question of whether they will move three times or four times this year and i think that is still up in the air. if you're the federal reserve and you want to see a strong economy and people getting back to work and not a lot of inflation, this was a good report to see. host: the economics reporter for the wall street journal, thank you for breaking this down for us this morning. joining us now is robert w haples. he is an economics professor at wake forest university as well as the author of the book, "pope francis and a caring society." administration's economic policy. thank you for joining us today. top take -- before we get into that, i want to ask you -- remind our viewers what the independent institute is and how it is funded. guest: it is a thing tank

to get into the mix and influence public policy. it is headquartered in oakland, california and i believe the funding comes from all different donors. host: you can find more on independent.org for more information. what are your top takeaways from these february job numbers? guest: similar to what we just finished hearing. the one-month numbers look awesome but these can move around. at theis better to look long-term trend. it looks like we are on a pretty good trend. size ofalk about the the economy, gdp, that has been growing. than thele faster previous pace for the last few quarters. we did not talk about the estimate of the net worth of trillion is a$99 net worth of american households

and that is an all-time high. at anployment number is all-time high. for me, the best sign is that so many people who were sitting on the sidelines, not in the labor force category, are getting pulled in and finding jobs. spurt that big employment come not from unemployment going down but mainly from people coming in who just did not have a job before, were not looking and had dropped out. host: we talked about this 89 addingstreak of payrolls, adding to payrolls. what sectors are we seeing really benefit most from this hiring street? -- hiring streak? guest: it is across the board. this long-term trend is that more and more people are being employees in the -- sector. gains in thesome

manufacturing numbers recently as well. across the board. again i think that is very encouraging. host: we are discussing the latest jobs numbers and the economy in this segment. 202-841-8000. call -- to speak to professor robert whaples. wages are not rising as quickly as they had the last time we had these kinds of job employment numbers. why is that? perplexes the economists. i do not know if there is a coherent story as to why this is true. wages startt the going up, the more we have to

worry about increasing interest rates and so maybe -- i don't know if it is a blessing in disguise if you can call it that, the wages are not increasing faster in this sense and that is one sweet have to increase the interest rate to slow down the economy but we do not get a lot of inflation, it means we have to start paying a lot more on our government debt. we know how high that is. the government debt is bigger than the economy. we have been in a lucky space for a number of years with low interest rates. even though we have a massive debt we don't have to pay a lot of interest on it. up, boy, start going is that going to hit us in the budget a lot harder. host: do we expect that to happen? isst: the surprising thing the interest rates have stayed so low for so long. it isconomists think

inevitable that they will go up and your they are creeping up. it was mentioned before that we are above for employment as economists say. once you get there, the danger is that there will be a lot of inflation and the fed has to increased interest rates so we don't have that inflation. it is a bad thing on one side and a bad thing on the other. question more quick before we get to our collars. the tax bill that was just recently passed by congress and signed by the president. as a jobpromoted creator. are we seeing this as part of the impact of that or is it still too early? guest: it is hard to say. it might not have hurt and it may have helped a little bit that it is so complicated what causes that. i will say one thing about that centss -- inany was a missedt

opportunity. it did not solve the high debt problem. it kicked the can further down the road like we have been doing with one administration and one congress after another for decades. host: james is calling from virginia beach, virginia on our democratic line, good morning. thank: good morning and you. we need to look at the individuals, different parts of the employment. unemploymenthe went up under donald trump. , he reagan was in office cut taxes and brought in immigration. over unemployment rate was 30%. how many of these new jobs can come into the u.s. instead of going to blacks were african-americans, they are going to immigrants. isn't it true that most of these

new jobs are going to immigrants that come to the united states. a are coming over here and you yeare one million jobs a or whatever and you bring over a million of them, aren't these people working somewhere? gets before the professor to that, i want to rate down some of these points from the bureau of labor statistics. among the major worker groups, the unemployment rate for black to client 6.9% in february while the jobless rates for adult male white, 4.9 percent hispanics showed little change. looking at these, although there january -- it is still significantly higher than all of these other groups and more than double or nearly double the unemployment rate of whites. can you talk about that?

that ifhe good news is you look a little longer, like over the last year, they are across the board for every , bygraphic by race education level and that is a good news but you are entirely correct that the black unemployment rate has always been higher than the unemployment rate for any other group. continues to be higher. the numbers we are talking about are the official numbers released by the bureau of labour statistics. they have got a methodology that they have used consistently over time. when you hear the news number that the unemployment rate is at the lowest point ever for african-americans, they track mid-1960's. the what it is saying is that it is the lowest official rate since then. there is really not denying that number. or is that it comes from a politician. for the there a measure

percentage of employment when it comes to people that are undocumented? guest: they do not ask that. by hispanic, asian, black, and white. but not by that. our color is coming from scottsdale, arizona on our republican line. whyer: my question is increasing the salaries across the united states, how does that affect inflation? i don't totally get that. on the other side of the fence, what factors would you feel would lower the cost of living that would then decline the inflationary factor in america? i always go back to one thing. tolower the cost of energy $1.50 a gallon and you affect every aspect of every part of the economy in terms of the

costs. if i could hear an answer back from you right now, that would be great and i would like to say one other thing also. wages how to -- how do play into inflation. employers have cost of making their products and the biggest cost is how much they have to pay their workers. when wages go up, that is going to cause prices to go up to a degree. your other question was about are there ways to lower the costs of living? and there are lots of ways to lower the cost of living and you mentioned energy. we have been incredibly lucky or maybe we should thank those incredible entrepreneurs that have figured out breakthroughs in technology that have allowed the cost of energy to stop going up as it had been doing for quite a while. that has been a windfall to american consumers.

there are other ways to lower the cost of living and one is to as a consumer, if you want to buy the product that is cheaper, if they can make it cheaper in another country, although we moved in the other direction this week on that by putting tariffs on a number of products of aluminum and steel. to talk a little more about the jobs report. as we pointed out, wage -- average hourly earnings year from a6% this year earlier. following a downwardly revised 2.8%. is a more competitive market forcing employers to raise wages? is this going against the general wage stagnation that we have been seeing? guest: exactly right. if you want to expand your

sales, you have to hire more workers and there aren't that many left. it is surprising how little wages are getting bid up. to me that is a surprise. not much faster than the overall rate of inflation. in other stretches of economic growth that we have seen like this -- it is a smaller rise in the real wage and a smaller rise might be due to productivity not growing as fast -- there are a lot of forces that could be behind it that we don't fully understand. host: our color is calling from -- our caller is calling from palmetto, florida. the previous guest was talking about the 89 months of growth. and he kind of like immediately looked like donald trump was a

great job maker and he never mentioned president obama doing that whole conversation he was having. and i would like for him to give president obama some credit. donald trump has not been in office for 89 months so you have to figure that president obama had the greatest job return. host: and he did contribute it to both administrations. guest: politicians always want credit for anything good that happens and pass off the blame for anything that that happens. while the president will have more influence on the economy than any other individual then say the head of the federal reserve, they just cannot snap their fingers. we are talking about an economy with 150 million workers in it and over 300 million consumers.

the economy is us. when it does well it is because we have done things better. we have become more productive. politicians complete a role in that. the forces behind economic growth though are not them but us. host: on the wall street journal's editorial page, they "trump'st it being job boom." boostedrm has incentives to invest in human capital to improve productivity and push-up rate -- wages. for companies that use aluminum and steel, it could dampen wage growth and hiring. it would be a shame if mr. trump's tariffs undo the growth. what is your reaction? guest: i think they stated it

very well. one thing i have done in my olledrch is p professional economists about what they think about a range of issues. there is one thing that economists agree on. in one of the surveys we did we thed -- "do you think united states government should eliminate or reduce the remaining trade and tariff barriers we have? 88% of the economists said we have to eliminate or reduce the barriers. do terrorists -- " and other restrictions on international trade harm the overall welfare of the society? over 90% of the economists agreed with that. andrea is on the line from illinois on our democratic line.

caller: hello, kimberly. love seeing you and c-span. my question is one of the largest employers in the entire world and our country is walmart. go ahead, andrew. ok, i thought you had someone else. my question is -- ok, walmart is a major employer in the job growth in february -- we have all seen the numbers. 313,000 job creations. -- the unemployment is not going down at all and i could give you some personal examples of people that are making lateral moves because there is no wage increases with a company like walmart. when the president took office, he talked about walmart giving $1000 bose -- bonuses.

everyone at walmart is an hourly employee. the departments that got those thousand dollar bonuses. , -- the rankfile based ongot bonuses their years of service. people that, i know are at walmart and some -- at eight years they received an $800 bonus and it was taxed at the higher rate because it was a bonus. on a $300 bonus with eight years of service you get about $184. this woman in particular is leaving walmart because of the fact that yeah, wage increases. we talk about that. walmart did that. they are hiring and paying people $10 an hour. but this one employee, she

started at eight dollars and hour. eight years later she saw her $.22.ise and the new kid -- the younger people that walmart has created --s increase in wages yeah, they will come but the others will leave because they see a 22 sent pay raise. your pointw, i get and i would like to give robert a chance to respond. guest: the good news is that there are many employers other than walmart. and if you look at the unemployment rate, the number of unemployed people in the united states in the last year has fallen. maybe not where you live but has fallen by that 800,000. we are talking about these extra jobs. if walmart is not giving out the raises to the people you know, there are other employers that

are increasingly available. not every walmart worker will find a better job at the tightening of the labor market gives them better opportunities and they had before. and you mentioned how the bonus was taxed. in fact, the bonus is like any other pay when it comes to the irs. it will be taxed at a higher rate. their marginal tax rate is very low. in fact many of the workers at walmart, if they are earning $10 an hour, they would be eligible for the earned income tax credit. and if they have children. a would get a subsidy from the government. and their wage goes up. we taxpayers chip in a little bit to help them out. idea,at is a bipartisan both republicans and democrats pushed that strongly in recent years to help the working poor. i want to get your

reaction on one data point. it points out that the average to 3.4ek rose by .1 hour hours in february. does that mean people are working longer to earn the same amount of money? small change. in the longer trend on how long the work week is, it has not changed much in the last years. is calling from berkeley springs, west virginia on our republican line. good morning. caller: it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what is keeping wages down. one word. illegals. i worked in that city behind you for 27 years. my boss hired workers from el salvador and trained them how to work. they came to me one day and said -- josé can do your job for one third of what i am paying you so you are not needed anymore. you know, that is exactly the

problem. you have all of these people coming across the border and working for nothing and american people are suffering from it. host: robert, what is your reaction to that? guest: this is basic economics. if you have an increase in the labor supply that will push wages down. what that will do mainly is the people that are the most direct substitutes, in this colors case, yeah, that will be pushing the wage in that group down. i think something that is not well known is if you look it estimates of the number of undocumented workers who are in the united states, illegal immigrants, whatever you want to pew them, save the organization. their estimate is that those numbers are going down. ever since 2008 and the big recession. there has been almost a stoppage of the net flow of those illegal

immigrants into the united states. partly due to economic conditions but also due to some important demographic conditions, south of the border. population shifts are not growing as fast so there is less pressure for people to move north and look for jobs up. market is calling from michigan on our independent line. hello there. caller: thank you for the opportunity to call. -- when iw up graduated in 1997, there was a taxation act of 1920. where is the disconnect between taxes and how many people are working compared to what is going down on the deficit? thats there a disconnect taxes had become a burden to the public and yet we are not paying

for anything because of deflation and the rest of the good junk you want to throw in their? you can -- in there? you can get people to work. but if the politicians have not figured out to put money down on the deficit -- why do you get people to work, to pay off someone else's debt? guest: that is an important question. who is to pay off this very large debt that we have? our children angrier and children and grandchildren. that is who we are doing the disservice to by not coming problem.in solving the our kids and grandkids are going to have to either pay a lot higher taxes in the future or just have lower government spending and we are not willing to do that for ourselves. , seniorbert whaples research fellow at independent institute. also an economics professor at

wake forest university. thank you for joining us today. guest: thank you for having me. host: coming up, we will be taking more of your calls. later on, the weekly standard's alice boyd will be here to discuss her recent article on the success of the me too movement and its broader impacts on the modern feminist movement. stay tuned. we will be right back. >> sunday night on q&a, former agentorter -- border talks about his book "the line becomes a river." >> the woman was pregnant. that is why she could not keep up. they were lost for three days after their group left them.

they were drinking filthy water from capital tanks. they made it to a village in the border patrol got called and i was the agent that was supposed to take them in. i started talking with them. it turned out that this pregnant woman had grown up in iowa and she spoke perfect english. she was a schoolteacher in iowa. and i think her husband saw that we were talking and we had a connection and he leaned over at one point and said -- hey man, can we skip the whole arrest and deportation thing. could you just drive us back to the border so we could cross back into mexico? be a brother? and i did not hesitate. i said no that this was my job and i could not do that. and i took them in. but what i remember about that encounter is i remember asking their names. and i remember introducing myself to them.

and i remember wanting to remember them because i had this connection and i wanted to hold them in my mind and i wonder the woman to be safe. to be safe.r child and then a couple of hours later i went act out on patrol, i was sitting in my car and i had completely forgotten their names. and the reason that encounter sticks with me so much is because i think that was the first step in the -- in dehumanization. forgetting what makes someone an individual. washington journal continues. host: we are taking your calls. let us take a look at some of the front pages from across the country. here at the museum. the tallahassee democrat is

talking about the signing of the gun control bill by governor rick scott in that state. and also the fact that the nra quickly filed suit over it claiming it violates young people's second amendment rights. about theian talks tariff impact and how it narrows a bit after the president torified allowing exemptions certain countries and in the arkansas democrat gazette, its top news was about the jobs numbers that we just talked about. including the new -- and also the news of florida signing that bill. middleton is calling from west virginia on our democratic line. good morning. caller: good morning. about that talking ar-15.

do people understand that you a 30the bullet and it is caliber hull with a 22 bullet? if you do not call that a high-powered --what is the matter with people? that is a lot of power behind that one little bullet. and it will really do the damage. i have shot through a tree and the tree broke. a four inch in diameter tree. shoot a whole in it and the tree will break. host: what would you like to see lawmakers do? guest: get rid of these -- ar-15'sget rid of these and all of these guns. they are high-powered. people do not understand what they will do to a person. it is not a 22. it might be a 22 bullet in diameter but the length is a lot

longer and it is tapered. bob is calling in from oregon on from salem, our republican line. what is on your mind? caller: this guy talking about ar-15's. kill people. people kill people, ok? as far as the steel and aluminum trade, why don't we stop and take care of each other? and one other comment. this nuclear stuff. if we blow it all to hell, why don't we get on a greyhound bus. there is no place to go. we are in the middle of nowhere. -- why don't we get our heads out of our butts, son of a gun? host: the republican national party is to how ting -- is

touting a special election race. the republican is detailing its aheads to help rick secun of next week's pivotal election for pennsylvania's 18th election all -- electoral congressional seat. that-an rnc official says party will spend $1.4 million. to avoid a major symbolic upset in the district. a programming note tonight -- we will show the recent campaign rallies in that special house race. first, joe biden at an event in support of democratic candidate conor lamb and president trump speaking at a rally for the

republican candidate. a special election is set for tuesday to fill a seat left to break into by tim murphy, who resigned late last year. you can watch both rallies starting at 10:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. and we have chris calling in from williamsburg, virginia on the democratic line. what is on your line -- mind today? c-span, thanks for taking the call. i am 90 years old and i sit back here and see all of the struggles and i think some of them are easy to handle. , youu share your burden can lighten your load. everybout having transaction that takes place and we could take care of our debt and we are not going to have all of this burden?

even though i have called in before regarding this, i guess no one thinks it is worthwhile. but believe me, in 90 years i know something like that is worthwhile and i have other ideas also. some of these problems can be more easily solved than one thinks but some people would rather perpetuate their job than to solve the problem were very quickly. host: bob is calling in from mesa, arizona on our independent line. good morning. caller: i would like to make a riff thatn the ta we have on steel and aluminum. deficit ofrade billions and billions of dollars. what people do not understand, democrats, republicans, and independence, they do not

understand that a trade agreement, our trade agreements with the rest of the world just socked. -- just suck. they are all one-sided. on everything that goes into their country. fair is fair. and unfair is just unfair. and the countries that will renegotiate are happy to do so because they have been cheating us for years and years. ,hy don't all of these parties democrats, republicans, and independence, understand that? you would not make that deal with your neighbor. no one would. it is a no-brainer. thatve a trade agreement we do not want. host: bloomberg is reporting that at least one exemption has already been granted by

president trump on this new tariff deal. it says australia has secured an exemption from the metals tariff announced last week by donald trump. malcolm turnbull told the media that trump confirmed the exemption in an early saturday morning call between the two leaders. turnbull said the conversation also touched on the security alliance between the u.s. and australia as well as possible ands between donald trump the north korean leader. i was very pleased the president was able to confirm that he would not have to impose tariffs on australian steel and aluminum , turnbull said. it was a very good and positive discussion with the president. john is on the line calling from harrison, arkansas on the republican line. hello. caller: how are you doing and thank you for taking my call. people arel,

wondering about the schools and the mass shootings. first of all, a school or any that is a gun free zone is a recipe for disaster. i am a former police officer and i can assure you, keeping legitimate people with concealed carry that have passed the tests and former police officers getting on school property could stop something like this. say, it is mental illness, well some of it is and some of it is not. wantingjust mean people to make a bigger name for themselves. as far as the ar-15 goes, it is not a combat weapon. it is an automatic and that is it. sporting people shoot coyotes and things with it. when people go for the background check, myself personally and others, you go , evene check and by god though i am a former police

officer, it took me three days to get that. checksohn, background are one of the things members of congress are looking into. what else would you like them to do? i do not want it to get out of hand. i don't want to stop someone who is legitimate from getting a weapon. things like this, education -- 39 times a sheriff was called to this guys house. that.were ways to handle they could have found out the guns he had. you can arrest him and take him into jail and take him in custody for 24-48 hours.

host: jeffrey is calling from west virginia on our democratic line. hello, jeffrey. caller: hello. host: what is on your mind? caller: this problem is not because people are buying guns from legal gun shops, they are buying these guns on these floating nra gun shows that go all over the country. there is no background checks. there is no limit on the size of the magazine you can buy. there is no limit on the amount of ammunition you can buy. they had one here in west virginia just last weekend for two days. are not going to the legal gun stores and buy in these, they are going to these nra gun shows. the nra is a problem. headlines some of the wall street journal is

reporting that the president is seeking a deal in how he may be interviewed by special counsel robert mueller. it says president trump's lawyers are seeking to negotiate a deal with special counsel robert mueller that uses an interview with the president as leverage to spur a conclusion to the russian investigation according to a person familiar with the discussions. the president's legal team is considering telling mr. mueller that mr. trump would agree to a sit down interview based on multiple considerations including that the special counsel commit to a date to concluding at least the trump related portion of the investigation. one idea would be to suggest a deadline of 60 days from the date of the interview. another consideration is reaching an agreement with mr. mueller on the scope of his questioning of the president. and we have terry calling in from grant hill, georgia on our independent line. what is on your mind?

bring up theted to fact that the florida bill does not go far enough. host: what would you like it to do? caller: there was a time in our country when these assault rifles were banned. we know how to do this. to stop the madness. if you walk down the street, you , walk stone cold sober down the street with a bag of marijuana in your pocket. if you get caught, you are going to jail. you can walk down the street with one of these ar rifles and they just let you walk down the street. , let us limitast the size of the magazines. at the very least. -- i mean, i shot have one here in the house. least, let us limit the magazine size. host: in stars, they have the latest on the california

shooting that happened. it says three women who devoted their lives to helping traumatized veterans were killed by a patient who had been killed -- who had been kicked out of their northern california treatment. relatives of the victims say a daylong siege ended friday evening with the discovery of four bodies including the gunman. he was identified as a former army riflemen who served a year in afghanistan from 2011 until 2012. investigators were still trying to figure out when and why the suspect killed a psychologist at the home. it took place in the napa valley wine region. the president tweeted about this essay -- we are deeply saddened by the tragic situation and we mourn the loss of three incredible women who care for our veterans.

richard is on the line from verona, missouri on the democratic line. what is on your mind? caller: just listening to your program about wages created this last month. here and the kids will be graduating from college. and high school. that will put a lot of people into the work market. you know? i am 80 years old and i have been a carpenter all of my life. and i wonder how many of them want to go out and be a carpenter. you have got to work and do manual labor. i built everything from airplanes to the finest woodwork in the banks and i have been proud of what i did for a living. education toto get get a job to sit behind a desk? i guess that is alright but someone has to do the work in this country and buildings.

things.uild i appreciate your dress there. missouri, we are straight, republican governor and we have a republican house and senate in jefferson city. we hear about wanting to raise wages. here, we are trying to do away with the prevailing wage and bring wages down for everyone. they say one thing and do another. they did everything they can to get rid of the unions here. i think they are kind of hypocritical. i will let you go, ma'am. host: roger is on the line from tennessee on our republican line. caller: good morning. sitting and watching the show and enjoying it. i am an old country boy and a retired general contractor. the 10 a right --

tannerite. idiot get a hold of five gallons of that stuff. people have no common sense. i grew up with guns and put a lot of meat on the table. one thing i want to say is that you have to put god back into your schools and places and turn to him and he will heal this. that is all i have this a. it is not the nra. god bless you all and thanks a lot. host: richard is calling from emory, wisconsin on the republican line. about the is teachers. arming the teachers. i think there are very good arguments on both sides of this. -- it isficult to say difficult to determine if this is really a good idea or not. in some cases it might be.

it are that itor takes a certain amount of time for the police to get to the school. and the arguments against it would be best how can you be sure that the teacher would be qualified and under continual as aing to be as qualified trained police officer would be? the other thing is when the police come and there is a lot of commotion and shooting, how are they going to know what is going on? and who is a good guy and who is a bad guy? they have to make split-second decisions. i can see the arguments on both sides and i just really do not know how you determine whether this is a good idea or a bad idea. in some situations, it might work out but it is a good idea

and in other situations it might go quite bad. know. don't i'm really up in the air about it. i am a little suspicious about it overall. the hill reports that a attorney general jeff sessions is expressing confidence in the watchdog looking into allegations of fisa abuse. ofheld open the possibility appointing a special prosecutor to oversee an investigation into the fbi's handling of the russia inquiry but insisted the justice department's internal watchdog was well-equipped to carry out the probe. his defense of the doj's follows criticism from president trump. our office of inspector general has almost a 500 employees and they will work on this and get to the bottom of it sessionstold to thes's tucker --

bottom of it sessions told fox news's tucker carlson. session said it could be one day that a special prosecutor would be required. bill is on the line from north dakota call -- phil is on the line from north dakota. caller: everyone once to blame the nra. we have a simple solution. if you break the law, you lost your gun rights. period. chargesave any kinds of , you lose your gun rights for 10 years. after 10 years, people get over their problems. most people probably would not even go back and try to got -- and try to purchase another gun after 10 years. it is simple. like the law in this country and pay the price. that is all. you pay the price. you gave up your rights. you cannot go on a military base if you break any laws for 10

years. you cannot work for the government. i am sorry. you gave up your rights when you broke the law. you do not get to touch a gun for 10 years. how hard is that? host: calling from piedmont, -- h carolina, our caller my hunting days, i got caught with a gun in the warden. a game he would take your gun and count the shelves. there were roles on how many you can have in your gun. why can we not use some of these rules to deal with the large capacity things? just collect them up when you catch them. there has to be places you cannot have them. it is easy enough to set up those roles. host: the hill reports that president trump may be

interviewing candidates for positions within his white house while he is at mar-a-lago. president trump is increasingly dissatisfied with white house chief of staff john kelly and possibleinterview replacements for him according to vanity fair. donald trump is eager to implement a clean reset of the white house staff in the coming weeks. he could begin interviewing candidates starting this weekend at his mar-a-lago resort. resetgoing for a clean but he needs to do it in a way that is systematic. so it does not look like chaos. jim is calling from orlando, west virginia on our democratic line. caller: i have two comments. these ar-15'smit or whatever set my automatic

weapons or reduce it to a five round clip. you don't need more if you are hunting. and another thing i had to say is i have been a hunter my whole life and usually when i take a dear down, it's one-shot will mr. nixon took a bunch of wealthy republicans to china and they set up contracts to build factories there. things was that they could never form a union in those factories to keep the wages down. ander two, nude gingrich the republican party took all off the stuff that was brought into the united states. that was starting the demise of

our middle class. they took all of our jobs and contractngrich made a with the wealthy people in the united states that he would kill every union he could and the ones he couldn't kill, he would make them so weak they could not help their workers. it was the republican party that has killed the middle class. thank you. host: coming up, the weekly standard will be here to discuss a recent article from the me too movement and its affect on the broader feminist movement and later on, the huffington post will discuss women's role in the gone viral's debate. first, this week's newsmakers in tribute david mcintosh. twoacs involved in midterm elections and he talks about the impact of the president's steel tariff on the

congressional campaign. >> it's definitely deflated the momentum. we saw the generic polling showed that republicans were becoming competitive again to keep the house and win more senate seats. there was a poll that was release that showed five democrat incumbents would lose today if the election were held. that's tremendous news for the republicans in the senate. i think it deflated the momentum. if we see a general terra developed in prices of goods increase, frankly, paying a couple hundred dollars more for a car takes away part of the thousand dollars the typical family got from the tax cut. tax onariffs are a americans, i think it will hurt republicans because the that.ent did hopefully, it will play out that may be by the election comes has won the

negotiations and removed the tariff. >> what should congress do and what can they do? >> four years, congress delegated a lot of trade authority to the president because typically come up presidents, democrats and republicans, were more involved in trade than typical congressman. it is all reversed now and i think congress is stepping back and has learned a lesson. we should not give away our power that way. it butuld try to repeal i don't think they will get the votes for that but they can hold up the extension of trade authority because that has to be reviewed in a few months and negotiate with the president using that tool to pull back those tariffs. it's very clear the majority of the republicans in the house and perhaps the same in the senate, do not think this is good policy. they want the president to succeed that they think this was

a bad mistake. i have said on a couple of articles that i think he was badly served by his protectionist clique that only told him half the story. >> sunday at 6:00 p.m. eastern on a history tv's american artifacts, political cartoonist herbert block, his career spanned 72 years, covering presidents from herbert hoover to george w. bush. see the largest collection of his work housed at the library of congress. >> one of the missions of the library of congress is to document the creativity and intelligence of the american people and preserve it for future don't -- generations. i think it's the mark of a free society that we can gather opinions with which we do not agree and collect them and preserve them for future generations. there are a lot of countries in the world work nobody would dare

stepsthat and here we are from the u.s. capitol and we have a variety of cartoonists and mr. locke is just a great example of one of the artists we have collected. >> watch american artifacts sunday at 6:00 p.m. eastern on american history tv on c-span3. "washington journal" continues. is alicening us now lloyd, a staff writer at the weekly standard and she is here as part of our spotlight on magazine series to talk about her recent article on the success of the me too movement and its broader impact on the modern feminist movement. thank you for joining us today. the me to movement really picked up steam in october. why would you write this article now in march? guest: that's a good question.

thing, i would think it for thehile probably weinstein of fact to take affect and for us -- this comes in a conservative magazine. for us to realize that it's to plant afrankly flag and say this is a nonpartisan movement will stop i think that is probably the most important sentence of the article. host: the title of the article "the catastrophic success of me to." what do you mean by catastrophic success? guest: i think that was an early iraq war era bushism. was an online headline. the headline inside the magazine, i think it's a woman's

.orld if she can keep it that's borrowed from benjamin franklin. catastrophic success of me too worked better for the web if only because people wondered what does that mean. it'sans a little bit that very obvious that it's a new world now for gender relations in the workplace. is thatcatastrophe part we don't know yet what that will mean or what it will take to sustain its gains. host: we are talking about the me too movement and its impact on modern feminism with alice lloyd of the weekly standard. we have special lines for this discussion.

i want to read a neck served from your piece which points out the issue of how the me too movement has been perceived. explain how this me too movement which started as an effort against sexual harassment in the work place and elsewhere is really broader than that, it's really about women's equality.

did you think that was the most important sentence, too? i learned this more for my reporting. i did not set out knowing this. achievedto women who exceptional status in their ,ield or who were academics known for exceptional insight into this area but who made these achievements in the 1970's about what me too looks like to them. it does look like a kind of re-inheritance of the aims of second wave feminism which has more to do with equal meritorious work than it had to do with broad burning -- bra-burning which

was part of one protest. i think a lot of what we read resonates with women, a lot of what we read in these news stories exposing famous rotatory men was that it reach women on all kinds of levels. -- on famous predatory men was that it reached all women on all kinds of levels. previous generations contended workplace discrimination. i think they are grateful that it has come back up to prominence. maybe grateful is the wrong word because it's unfortunate. host: talk about how it's different, how this modern feminism movement differs from what we think about in the past

about past efforts. guest: one of my favorite interviews on that specifically kobich who was at newsweek in 1970 and realized they were not going to get to the positions they wanted and were qualified for and mounted this fascinating class-action suit in 1970 and succeeded. her book is "good girls revolt." it had not really been resurrected until her book in 2012. when we talked about the difference between me too in what they were doing then, it lines,ually, one of her

i don't know if it made it into the piece, was that we through the internet rediscover a kind of sisterhood that they had. it was their only recourse. we take connectedness for granted and then and up only finally get as these -- at these times of cultural crisis. that is the most fascinating difference. that's like a doctoral thesis. we are joined by alice lloyd talking about her piece in the weekly standard about the me too movement and its impact on the broader feminist movement. joan is calling from woodland hills, california. can you turn down your tv and listen through your phone? caller: oh, sure. question?'s your

women, we have to educate our children and take control of our lives and educate our families. worldng humans into the and men and it's about respect because we have to carry a child and educate them, feed them, teach them and send them to school. we hope and pray that the teachers will teach our children correctly, not teach them to kill one another but love one another and get along and enjoy one another and have a good life. we need need more guns, more food to feed each other. we need more patience and time to love each other. our government leaders need to know that they too came from women. jobs, womenn have can have careers and the leadpreneurs and women can the country because we care about lives.

we don't take lives, we give lives. host: talk about the traditional role of women and how that impacts this movement. guest: thank you for bringing up motherhood because that's where the peas winds up. the piece and prizes these with women from generations past. they are still living and working so i don't know if you call them past generations. always be a kind of maternal bias that would come up. children orve grown our grandmothers think in terms of the next generation more immediately then young women who are writing about these issues and thinking and marching. of them as ideas but the perspective that is

necessarily a woman's one of kindrhood i think gives it of a necessary weight. t's -- that the piece ends up with a mother's perspective. -- therean anna doak is an anecdote in there about my mom. do you think the current leaders of the me too movement and a real sense of history the way the movements of the past were carried out? who wei think it depends are identifying as the leaders. for instance, i know the leaders of the women's march, the organizers, are embroiled in a controversy now. pushed them in a problematic direction and at the idea of intersection analogy. it's an ideological at

devolution from second wave feminism or sees itself as such. fair toknow if it's call it a disconnect because there was so much theorizing that came between. that, it comes back to motherhood again. i don't know if it's a famous example but an example that was controversial and got some reporter whoen the wrote that much discussed story about aziz ansari responded to criticism of the story, calling the interviewer a second rate there wasnd suddenly a feeling in the nation that was good.

she said wait, don't they realize that all of modern feminism is essentially second wave? there is some forgetfulness of to where weage as got that from. it's natural because it's the same way we forget what our mothers taught us. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2018] charlie is calling in from roslyn heights, new york. caller: listen, i've been a progressive my whole life. is in dire need of a genuine progressive movement. when you have groups like the women's movement or african-americans saying my group first, this is working against the development of a genuine progressive movement. important that we see it as united.

everything we got in this country was from a united front. if you go back to the way we get social security, the end of child labor, all this was a united front, not just one group. i think that's an interesting point. women iways, the interviewed said me too is a re-occurrence of that idea. women realized tonight an extent that perhaps we have forgotten that we are together in understanding better than men do what this soft discrimination really looks like. i keep referring back to my interviews because this is how i came to understand what this stuff means. one that was particularly tillmanul was surely

saying that as president of princeton, she got in trouble for promoting i think as many women as men or something. there was an accidental 50, 50 situation. not an official policy anyway. she got some criticism and said to me for this story that women are just better at recognizing -- i'm paraphrasing but i think this is what she meant -- women are better at recognizing leadership qualities and other women. of thosends me movements past. is calling in from cape may, new jersey. caller: hi, i was an attorney and have been attorney for many years. second-generation

of feminism. through some of the cases i had, there have been police officers and prison guards and that sort of thing. one of the things that dismays me is that a lot of the problems brought on by themselves. it was not our intention in fighting these things. they cost a lot and family relationships but it was not to lower women to the standards that men culturally have had for centuries. i think in a lot of ways that has happened. i do think young woman forget how hard it was. allowed to be [indiscernible] .n schools it's not time to throw the baby out with the bathwater. the other problem i see is that we have to embrace all women,

left, right, center. i have seen a lot of women in the women's march, pro life women were not welcomed. excluded.shunned and it's time for us to embrace all of our sisterhood with all our differencesd their and make sure the playing field is equal, not necessarily the outcome. guest: i need to plug some weekly standard reporting on pro-life feminism. there is a group called new wave feminists. it's brilliant and articulate and they are the pro-life who were controversially removed from the women's march after the president's inauguration. they did march but they were removed from the sponsor list.

they came and marched and got a lot of support from liberal and progressive women who were there. i don'te saying sister, agree with you but i'm glad you came. we see a lot of what this last caller has talked about which is you createg whatever and however you differ from me on a particular topic, we are in it together. destiny is great, you should look her up. host: harry is calling from florida, go ahead. caller: hello and thank you. lloyd, i heard you say something and you quoted someone that womenou said are good at understanding, that's it you said.

and there are women who are more understanding than men. elseried to quote someone who said that women are better at leadership and identifying leadership in other women. i want to direct this in america especially. and i want to direct it to the world. were in allif women the leadership positions of power around the world, all of the issues and all of the problems of the world would be solved overnight. i know this for a fact because and that's proven why it's not her story. history has proven that male dominance which is what we have been living under for past history, a male dominant world,

they have screwed things up. slavery,le, war, everything to name a few. take control of all the leadership positions, it to get thepful position of power and wealth. as soon as they take over, everything would be like utopia. guest: let's try it. good idea. i think there is a lot of road to cover first. host: let me read another excerpt from your piece.

what point was the professor making? guest: she is fascinating. that was a transition. above, it wasph mostly an original idea of hours and then we go on, i say hours as i am crediting my editors. she goes on to make a point more about the fact that we cannot psychology,vement of collective aims derived from women's practical complaints. so, i think the social movements lose themselves when they are tangled up in theory rather than these practical

complaints. i think i use that as a transition into what she said. it was something we discussed. host: paul is calling from orlando, florida. caller: good morning, ladies. don't you find it ironic that some of the same women that are in the me too movement show up on the red carpet wearing very revealing outfits and then say don't objectify me? i am a 58-year-old bachelor and i am not sure i know how to talk to women anymore. if i walk into the office and tell the receptionist i love what she did with her hair, do i have to worry about being called into hr? if i am at a social function and i complement a woman on the outfit she is wearing, do i have to worry about being ostracized? anyway, those are my two comments.

either way, the two of you look lovely. your: i cannot speak for hr department. think that women dressing revealingly are ready to be seen by whoever talks with him. i don't think that's something we need to worry about as a culture. only one -- i the know i'm not the only one but i have heard from a lot of men that they worry about hugging a woman after a work coffee or something here in washington. i think we can do with a little less of that worry. i don't think any collegiality should be lost. if it was coming from the wrong place, it wasn't collegiality in the first place. host: from iowa honor women's line. hi, i am a gen x and i

was born with baby boomer women, strong women and i am also with millennials because i'm raising them. days did not olden understand. i am a strong feminist and she did not understand right from wrong of gentlemen. a lot of women do that and i understand that. we are educating them that we have our rights. the gentle man that called was talking about how he doesn't know how to talk to women anymore. i understand where he comes from because i have friends that misinterpret things the runway. a person is being courteous and respectful and then they will understand.

on the other note about the pro-life movement, i am a democrat. urban area to an a rural area, beautiful people. understand about their right to choose and i believe in that. we have a right to choose any decision, right or wrong. we have to pay the penalty of our decision and the consequences we have that that's her own judgment. that's what god is supposed to judge us for, not another human being. believe in the me too movement and i believe in women's rights and i believe in the progressive movement and the millennials will take us further into great prosperity. host: let's give alice a chance to respond to that. guest: i love your optimism. i wonder if maybe you have too

much faith in millennials. i loved where you began with i thinkments because it's wonderful to think about the women around us sometimes in terms of what each generation brings. sense oft gives a history to our daily lives. host: craig is calling from tulsa, oklahoma. just a minute or so left. caller: good to talk to you. onas going to get your view the roles of men. many people look at the bible and they misunderstand the structures. there is actually two structures based on where you are. like when you are in the office, your leader is your leader regardless of the gender so you follow them and do its right. in the home, it's a different structure and i wanted to get your view on the family. and ayzed in the bible

talks about the man being head of the household. is that fair? then i realized the two things that are taught in a male/female structure in the family's respect for authority and the respect for law. that is why that structure was built when a woman shows respect for her husband, gives an example to the children to respect authority. and when a husband dues what -- when a husband does what is right, it teaches people to respect law. in the office, it is a different structure. that is what i took from the scriptures. we do want a generation of kids that respect authority and loss so i think that family structure is correct. alice awant to give chance to respond. is a: i think it fascinating problem and i am glad that you are thinking about it.

issue lines uphe with women talking about the importance of motherhood really does round out part of the practical experience of feminists confronting their authority within the family. theink we realize probably true impact perhaps of these big social conversations when we consider them within the context of what family teaches us. it is a good way to think about it. host: ok, staff writer at the weekly standard. you can find her piece at weeklystandard.com. and you can find her on twitter at alice b lloyd. coming up next, the huffington post emily peck will be here to discuss women's roles in the gun violence debate. ♪ [captioning performed by the national captioning institute,

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look at our basic civil liberties. i started thinking about the constitution and we all know about the second amendment. it gives americans the right to bear arms. have beens, women asking for their own amendment -- the equal rights amendment. the second amendment, of course it applies to all americans, but is mostly a liberty that is used by men. men are three times more likely women.a gun than men are the majority of mass shooters and primarily the victims of gun violence. it started to sort of bother me that they have this right while women are still struggling to get equal rights in our constitution. piece, you writes "gun owners have the second amendment in place since the 18th century.

of only threee countries that offer constitutional protection to gun owners. women, meanwhile, have been fighting for equal rights amendment but the constitution does not actually grant women equal rights under the laws setting the country apart from 131 other nations that explicitly guarantee gender equality in their constitutions." let's hone in on the point you are making here. these comparing two different things, how are they related? guest: how is gun ownership and equal rights related? host: correct. i was trying to highlight the difference between rights and liberties afforded to men and women in this country. when the constitution was written, women do not have the right to vote. woman who got married were not allowed to own property. over the centuries, the constitution has been updated.

women, they got the right to vote, etc. through the years, there has robust inclusion of women in that document. effects real a -- on women. i mentioned domestic violence when it comes to equal pay. the fact that women are not guaranteed equal rights in the constitution has met that women .wind up on the losing end maybe it seems odd to compare it to the second amendment, but i think it is very striking that while women struggle for their rights in these areas, there is this robust gun ownership right that is considered primary to men. hopkins fromr

breitbart responded to your piece. i want to read a little bit of his responding to your reaction. he wrote, her statement overlooks the fact that women are one of the fastest-growing demographics for gun ownership but peck's greatest oversight is in presenting gun rights as men's rights, then pitting those against women's rights. natural rights are not gender specific. men and women have the freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to assemble, the right to self-defense, and the list goes on. what is your response? guest: he is making two different spo points. ue that women are fast-growing demographic when it comes to gun ownership, but it is incontrovertible that guns in a symbol of maleness this country. the statistics back that up.

men make up about 80% of the victims of a gun violence. if you look at mass shooting data, only three women have participated in a mass shooting since the 1980's. think the argument that women are a growing demographic really holds much weight. as far as men and women enjoy , that is true as far as it goes on the document was written. women did not enjoy all of the rights given in the constitution. , of the years and decades course, we have been included, but is not been a perfect inclusion and the fact that women are not explicitly mentioned and given equal rights in the constitution. that proves that fact. i mentioned a couple of cases in the piece where if there had been an equal rights amendment or in era, these cases that went

to the supreme court might have gone a different way. also, a casee and where a police department failed to protect a woman from her husband who had a history of violence who wound up shooting her children and murdering them. host: i want to get to the issue of violence, we are joined by emily peck who was a senior reporter at the huffington post. she is talking about her recent piece about gun violence and how it impacts women. we are keeping our lines. women can call (202) 748-8000 and men can call (202) 748-8001. the telegraph from the u.k. .o. data aboutw.h violence and women and among their findings, one in three women, 35% across the world have experienced violence amounting

to more than 800 million women worldwide. it goes on to point out that 30% of women murdered around the world are killed by their partner compared to 6% of men. in southeast asia, this figure is much higher, 55% of murdered women are killed by a current xor act or. exkilled by a current ex, or partner. most of these crimes receive more of them perpetuated by men. is there a gender specific aspect of the gun violence debate? there definitely is a gender specific aspect of the gun violence debate. the violence poses a really interesting -- that is a terrible aspect to the whole gun violence debate. if you look at mass shootings, a lot of these mass shooters started at home.

skills on their internet partners, their wives, their girlfriends, and they went out and destroyed other people's lives. i think it is something like 50% of mass shooters had and domestic violence in their histories. the method violence is not a unique problem to the united states but what is unique here is how easy it is for perpetrators to get guns. when the method violence perpetrators get guns, that puts women at very high risk. statistic, at the women and the united states -- havee united states domestic violence situations because of the presence of a gun. elton is on the line calling from idaho. you are on with emily pack. peck.: the thing -- emily

caller: your gun violence problem has started -- women aw.e started to determine l they help to vote out capital punishment. in the 1800s we did not have this problem. they rated to somebody that had the tendency, they shot them. that is cruel and unusual punishment. what they are doing is normal and nice, come on. reaction? is your guest: we live in a different world than we did in the 19th century. we'rends of firearms talking about today are far more deadly and require a different response. i want to point out in this discussion about women, the nra -- the chief

spokesperson for the nra is dana lasch. she is very prominent in that organization. she often speaks about the fact that she has a firearm for personal safety as to protect herself if she is alone, to protect her family. given such a high profile of a woman in that gun rights debate on the and are -- on the nra's side, how do you think that changes the debates? guest: they market their products to women and why wouldn't they? there is only so many men and there are lots more women who do not have guns. stats do not show that they have been altogether successful since men are much more likely to be gun owners than women. as far as women needing guns for

protection, the data is pretty clear. the presence of a gun put a woman in more danger. -- puts a woman in more danger. psychologically, you may feel safer. but a gun in a home increases the likelihood of a shooting and a domestic violence incident, a death by about 500%. host: brian is calling from plymouth, wisconsin. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. just a couple of comments. as a conservative, i've always been in favor of equal rights for everybody in this country. the -- this aof little off-topic, but regarding pay, the company i work for when i started there 24 , all of us have a very

same title as maintenance foremen. we were all men. but not a single one of us was pay the same -- i'm going to put that out there and let that sink in. aboutnot necessarily gender but so many other factors that make up your compensation. host: i want you to address that. you have written about workplace issues as well. that is a part of this discussion. guest: yeah. pay ana lot about equal absolutely there is a gender pay gap in this country. the reason people make different amounts of money vary g reatly, but women make less money on average than men for a variety of reasons. that is just how it is. things are changing a little

bit, but the gender pay gap is very hard to close. right now, women make about 80% of what men make on average in this country. that number is worse for women of color. push you write about the you had in the equal rights amendment for women and that is spoken about usually in the context of employment but that can have an impact on the gun debate as well. explain that. guest: we talked a lot about domestic violence so far. if you hadn't equal rights amendment, there would be a greater effort to -- if you had an you go rights amendment, there be a greater effort to put it into law. what women need is protection from the method violence perpetrated with guns. it would mean a different level of scrutiny when it comes to domestic violence laws, especially around the guns.

for example, right now men that have committed domestic violence, they cannot buy a gun but there is nothing stopping them from owning the guns that they have. if there was an equal rights amendment, we want to take in the look at laws like that that allow men who have committed domestic violence to own guns. host: esther is calling from savannah, georgia. caller: i appreciate the conversation of the guns. i'm a concealed carry owner. i married a man who is a hunter and i have been a vegetarian for about 15 years. it is an interesting dynamic. i grew up in an area where we had done racks and -- in our trucks. never had an issue with school shooting about as more societal

comment. , i guess there's are about 8 million or so that we know of. i guess i am wondering if the ar-15's is such a hot topic, why we are not seeing more murders going on every day with the mass amount of the semiautomatic assault rifles? , the majority of violence of guns is handgun violence. all of this being said, have no problem banning the bump stocks or high-capacity magazines. i'm interested in hearing your comments and thank you. host: go ahead, emily. well, i am not heard in the difference between various kinds of guns. i think there is a genuine effort right now to regulate guns in this country and considering we have such a high level of gun violence in the

united states, it is an effort well worth considering. look at all of the data and kinds oft the right laws to put in place to prevent school shootings but also murders with handguns as the caller pointed out. host: emily, you also read about the fact that sexual harassment -- we have seen one area of bipartisanship were all 50 state attorney general's have demanded an end to a culture of silence surrounding sexual harassment. every state attorney general signed a letter to congressional leaders to manning that sexual harassment victims get their day in court. they want congress to end the process of forcing sexual-harassment cases into mandatory arbitration. talk about mandatory application and how it affects these cases.

guest: the majority of workers in this country agreed to arbitration. arbitration is essentially a private courtroom outside of the public justice system where judges typically retired judges only sexualf not harassment but the wage disputes, any kind of discrimination. in sexual-harassment cases what are means is, let's say you one of several women at the company and you have been harrassed all by the same guy and he does not get resolved. you want to take the case to court but you cannot. yet the tickets arbitration. -- you have to take it to arbitration. filing arohibited from class action so each one of these women would have to go to this arbitration separately.

the proceedings would be secret. typically what we have seen an arbitration is that even if these victims win and the case goes in their favor, judgments damages arenetary lower than they would be in the court system and perhaps worse in the #metoo era, these meetings are quiet. they are kept secret. female, is a male or perpetrator inside of the and their conduct is proven in arbitration, they could continue to work in the company because no one is going to know. companyway of that keeping misconduct and harassment secret and allow it to fester. host: eric is calling from pensacola, florida. caller: good morning. i would like to give emily a compliment.

it seems like she is trying to use facts and statistics to try and learn about this. lackconcerned about your of knowledge about the weapons themselves. you seem kind of proud of it. that might help you understand a little bit better. -- what do youas actually hope to accomplish by delineating gun violence by sex? thementioned a lot of method violence by men but there are domestic violence by women as well. what i am getting from you is not that you are really trying to solve it, but there is a sense of -- and it is just my sense from you -- you are trying to maybe push the blame onto for something maybe you cannot understand.

it reminds me of the three blind men finding the elephant and each one sees a different thing. it seems like you grab the trunk and you determine that is a certain thing. someone else has grabbed the legs and someone else the tale. host: eric, i want to give emily a chance to respond. just a point out a little data from a usa today piece. isa shows that gun violence disproportionately a male problem of the 97 mass shootings in which three or more of it was died, only three were committed by women. i want to give emily her chance to respond. guest: of that 3, 1 was a woman and man together. so. -- that gun violence is a predominately male problem and where women shop the most is as victims. it is important to make the case against the gun violence in a gendered way because it is a gendered issue.

to hide from that and pretend it more difficult to look at real solution for the problem. host: gretchen is calling from long island. good morning. caller: good morning, ladies. it is so nice to hear a younger oman talking about the e.r.a. i just wonder if emily knows that for the e.r.a.'s passage, there were three states i believe that were allowed to rescind their vote on the amendment and that is the first and only time it was ever allowed for an amendment to become part of the constitution. thank you, so much for making a difference that is very semantic oriented. there is a great difference between being a manned and being .- a man and being a male unfortunately, we've a lot more males than being a man.

thank you, i look for to reading your piece. guest: that was nice. yeah, so, the e.r.a. is something worth talking about. it failed to pass in the 1980's. it was three states, it just missed by three states. you lookamericans, if at the polling actually think that we do have an equal rights thatment because the idea women and men should have equal rights is one that appeals to most people. host: usa today piece talks about efforts by the ivanka trump to push issues such as paid family leave. that piece rights, while republicans are open to discussing paid family leave,

they worry about the details and to man's of the ceo and president of the conservative advocacy organization concerned women for america and she met with the ivanka trump, who tried to get her support for paid leave because she said it was a pro-life idea. we agree with that, the question is, how do we do that so it does not make it more difficult for women to be hired and promoted? how do the politics of issues affecting women in the work place sort of shakeout, emily? guest: you hit on one of the biggest issues which is paid leave. as you know, the united states is one of only a handful of countries in the world that does not offer paid time off to mothers after the birth of a child. ,t causes all kinds of problems economic problems in the workplace for men and women. it is disheartening, but -- it is heartening that republicans

have come around to the issue and actually come out in support of paid leave. those recently, a ivanka trump and marco rubio and even the president, donald trump, as mentioned paid leave in the state of the union. the difference is in the details. the gop has their way, they would like to do it and there's also paid leave advocates and their way of doing it. the devil as usual is in the details. host: laura is calling from troy, michigan. caller: hi there. i would just like to bring to , a fewtleman's attention speakers ago, the topic is women and the gun debate. he did not have to denigrate amalie because you do not have to have appeared today to -- you do not have to have a phd to understand the

function of a gun. most of them are designed to , protection is questionable because i think that as you have mentioned, a lot of people get killed when someone takes the gun away from them. -- nra appealing to women franklin roosevelt said, we have nothing to fear but fear itself. this is what they are capitalizing on for women, arm yourself and your chances are a lot better. from my observation, most burglars do not want to go into a house with anyone there. they prefer -- host: we get your point, laura. i want to give amalie the last word. guest: she has nailed it. and the gun makers are trying to sell guns to women as that willve device protect them from violence when the truth is, the gun is going

to put them in greater danger. that is a big key in talking about the gun violence and women and the devices are fatal devices. women are in enter pieces at the huffingtonpost.com. tomorrow, we will be joined by discuss thent to overture from north korea to talk with the u.s. robert messenger will be here -- wasinger will be here discussing the issues president trump basis in his second year and alberto gonzales will be here to discuss the immigration policy and the president's attacks on jeff sessions.