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trump's national security team. and then at 9:00 a.m., talking about the data the trump host: good morning. the house and senate are both in at 10:00 this morning. they are working toward a new's federal spending agreement. we will talk about the negotiations this morning on washington journal. discussing the efforts to combat the opioid epidemic. yesterday, he presented his plan of a speech in new hampshire where he vowed to take a tougher law enforcement approach and seek more death penalty cases against drug traffickers. we want to hear your reaction.
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we have special phone lines. if you've been impact by opioids, (202) 748-8000 is the number for you. .ll others, (202) 784-8001 you can also catch up with us on social media. a very good tuesday morning to you. we will get to the question about the plan to combat opioids. you can start calling in now. we want to update you on breaking news of texas. it's from the washington post. a package bound for austin exploded and a fedex facility overnight. early on tuesday, the explosion occurred near san antonio around 1:00. atf said early indications are that no one was injured. if it are investigating was related to the other four in
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austin. that is a concern to us. the incident happened as they are scrambling for clues at the scene of another explosion sunday. authorities believe it's the work of a sophisticated serial bomber whose been terrorizing austin with increasingly complex devices. more on that story as it develops. we will have this discussion in the first hour about president trump's plan to combat the opioid crisis. the headline in the wall street journal, tough approach vowed in opioid crisis. his remarks were in new hampshire. it's the unveiling of his plan to turn the tide on the opioid epidemic. 100 claiming the lives of americans per day.
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it's that last part it seems to be getting the most attention this morning. here is the president from that speech, talking about stricter drug sentencing and tougher law enforcement. >> if we don't get tough on these drug dealers, we are wasting our time. just remember that. that includes the death penalty. it's amazing. some of these drug dealers will kill thousands of people during
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their lifetime. thousands of people and destroy many more lives. they will kill thousands of people during their lifetime. they will get caught and get 30 years in jail. or they will go away for a year or be fined. if you kill one person, you get the death penalty or you go to jail for life. if we are not going to get tough on the drug dealers who kill thousands of people and destroy we are just doing the wrong thing. this isn't about nice anymore or committees or let's get everybody in have dinners. frankly, talking and doing nothing. this is about winning a very tough problem.
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if we don't get very tough on these dealers, it's not going to happen. i want to win this battle. i don't want to leave at the end of seven years and have this problem. host: we are talking about the president's comments. if you've been impacted by yourds, (202) 748-8000 is number to call in. .ll others, (202) 784-8001 we have more information on how the death penalty might be used. this is the washington times reporting this morning. availablepenalty is for drug kingpin divisions. triggered in be extreme cases where the target is part of a continuing criminal enterprise.
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the story notes that the just department said they did not have any statistics on how many convictions have been secured under the kingpin law. that part of the plan is getting the most attention. we will talk about this morning. we want to hear from you. virginia,n richmond, on the line for those who have been impacted. good morning. good morning. caller: i want to understand.
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i don't hear anything about punishment for doctors. people, someent people have been given 400 oxycontin a month. since 2003.ke this that's the first thing that happened. nerves. was crushing my there's a lot of pain in that. was 30 pillser got a month. do you want to tell me these doctors are innocent when they give people up to 400 vicodin?
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they can give me 30? the presence plan on over prescription seeks to cut the prescriptions by one third in three years. it's a restriction the york times says will face opposition from critics who argue it could have unintended consequences for people with chronic pain. more dangerous drugs like heroin or synthetic fentanyl. ben is in tennessee. go ahead. mother became addicted to opioids. two years ago this past bad in thehe got doctors cut her down.
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she took a rifle and stuck it to her chest and pulled the trigger. that impacted all of our lives. opioids caused it. my mother was always a wonderful mother and never had any problems. she had cancer and they started prescribing opioids. , but nobodyddicted would help her. they are good for people in some pain.with chronic realizedoctors have to at some point they are going to have to be eased off them instead of just cold turkey.
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they are going to start hunting them elsewhere on the street. if you've never had somebody commits suicide, especially your this, it's aer hard pill to swallow. it's not an easy fix. there's got to be some kind of plan implemented to take care of the people who get addicted on them. host: what was your mother's name? caller: lillian. host: thank you for sharing lillian's story. on the linendiana for those who have been impacted. caller: thanks for having me this morning. this is a production of problem.
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it's real simple. one would be to get rid of all the heroine. do is take ao bunch of roundup over there and kill the poppies. you've got to stop production at these pharmaceutical companies. it's a schedule one. stop production on these. if you're calling the pharmaceutical owners drug dealers,. host: that was marked in indiana. we have some reaction on the plan and the crackdown on law enforcement from members on capitol hill. saiddurbin in the senate
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the war on drugs did not work in the 80's and it won't work now by revising failed measures. he links to a full statement. is from newn hampshire where the president was yesterday. one more from tom cotton of arkansas. this is his statement. ronald on the line for those who have been impacted by opioids. good morning.
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caller: good morning. happy spring, everyone. did you know the poppies will be in bloom in about a month. we can either kill the poppies or continue to have deaths, loss. it's a revenue generator. pretty soon, we are going to have clinics that will generate even more funds from the opioid crisis. i have a question. fentanylomponents for traded on the new york stock exchange? thank you. that's all i have. host: we certainly have plenty of experts on the crisis come
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through this desk. we will have more segments on it. this is something we can discuss in the future. george is in maryland, on the line for those impacted. i am somebody who used to work or the florida department of help during the crisis. accident and an infection led to several surgeries afterward. i was on opioid treatment myself. i'm worried how this is going to affect people who have legitimate problems. i have no problem with punishing pushing addiction on people. time, i am concerned about the fact that what is being told to doctors is they should not prescribe opioids and
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this will disproportionately affect people who are poor and on medicare because those totors have less reason handle this issue. host: tammy is in new york, on the line for those impacted. i support him 100%. opioidsy son in april 2 , it was laced with fentanyl and coding. they knew who the dealer was 100%. nothing was done because of how the laws are written. educate and need to lighten up the laws which protects the dealer. what do you think could've been done before hand or should
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have been done to save your son? my son had insurance. he was a hard worker. it was very difficult to get into rehab. if you're on medicaid you get in right away. they need to look at that a little bit more, he had a great job. he came from a good home. every time i went in to talk to the police, there's always a different reason of how the law is written. it was confirmed 100% to the dealer was. host: she says she supports the president in his efforts. here is more from the president, talking about federal efforts. >> we've worked with congress to
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ensure at least $6 billion are going through right now in new funding in 2018 and 2019 to .ombat the opioid crisis we will spend the most money ever on the opioid crisis. on our most recent prescription drug takeback day, people across the country turned him more than 900,000 pounds of unused or expired prescription drugs, more than the weight of three boeing 757's. our border protection and customs people, the job they do is incredible. they seize 1500 pounds of fentanyl last year, three times the amount seized in 2016.
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i told china, don't send it. i told mexico, don't send it. see standing in front of a background in which it was written opioids, the crisis next door. he talked about some of the funding for the opioid crisis. considering $6 billion in funding. whatever money is agreed to, it falls short of expectations. only a long-term commitment to fund treatment facilities in the counties in the united states will make a difference in the crisis. when it comes to federal funding, this is where we are. undervernment would be shutdown friday after midnight. if you spending deal is it
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reached by then, there were some expectations of the deal was about to be announced. that plan was to be released yesterday. that didn't happen. the washington times noticed congressional republicans are rushing to put the finishing touches on a deal to fund the government for the rest of 2018. conservatives -- democratshelp from because they were worried fiscal conservatives would .
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the timeline would be close. we will see what happens as the clock ticks down on another potential government shutdown. maryland, on the line for those who have been impacted. what you think about the plan? caller: i would like to see more towardh directed treating opioid diction and the treatment itself. i have a couple of family members who have been impacted by opioid diction. think theted to say i line between legitimate medical one.ns is a blurry somebody talked about punishing doctors, that's a very difficult thing to put on law enforcement and doctors.
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my cases, the people do have chronic health conditions that warrant dedication. they quickly slid into addiction after conditions were resolved at some point. they were already addicted. opioids toue to take maintain their addiction. it's another thing that needs to be thought about. plane concerns about the and its effectiveness. areink a lot of people confusing opiates with opioids. i know it can turn to that. in my experience, a lot of people who are suffering with addiction are getting their medication or their drugs from legitimate sources, not drug dealers on the street. host: do you think doctors get
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it? are they trying to do their part in stopping this crisis by watching how much they prescribed? is there a change in the medical community's outlook? caller: i think it varies from doctor to doctor. you have people out there who have a reputation for being a doctor feel good. i think they can track those people down. there might be some avenues to in legal actions against those people. i think most doctors act in good faith and they treat people with the available medications out there. are opioids and opiates. providing education to the , other resources
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providing education to the patient's. s hearing that can be done in a widespread campaign or personally. york, also is in new on the line for those who have been impacted. caller: i've been listening to all of these stories about people. let me remind you of something. during the 80's when the crack bested them like was at its i -- epidemic was at its height, black people were overdosing and dying, there was no concern. now there's a concern because your children are dying of corporate opium.
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now you want to give out the death penalty. you don't like to do things for others, don't do it. it will come back to you. saying,thing you are you just talk among yourselves. we stopped listening. host: who is we? caller: everybody. you are talking to yourself. the minority people already know what's going on. host: that was frank in new york. barbara is in texas. good morning. caller: i want to talk about the fact that they are saying doctors are doing this. -- they used to drop
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their load in mexico and they gave it over to people in the united states to distribute. now they go all over the united states with those truckloads. this is where a lot of this comes from. frommily was impacted street drugs. it was impacted athlete. it's not gone away. it's not going to go away. nothing is done about the illegal drugs. with thes overrun mexican mafia. they are eating our country up. it is not our legal doctors. host: do you feel like the president approaches this getting tougher with law enforcement? is that the right approach to take?
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caller: they are not punished. they put them in jail. they run them through the court system. they turned them loose again. they are back on the street. host: i thought you were done. we have a few comments from our facebook page. corey writes in that the supreme court has struck down using the death penalty for nonviolent crimes. it's a waste of time. big pharma has got to go. they are only concerned with revenue and not cures. we have a few tweaks as well. one more from eric this morning.
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host: have you found it's hard to get access to the opioids that you need and use responsibly since this? caller: yes. i do. because of the abuse that is coming with this, they are doing it for pleasure. a lot of times we get called alex and they refuse to give us the proper pain medication. addicts and they refused to give us the proper pain medication. president, he should be focusing more on why it has become such an epidemic
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and crisis and fix our hospitals so more people can get the proper care. if people don't get the proper care, they turn to the street. that is an asset in new york. more of your calls in just a second. speaking of new york, some news on the political front. actress cynthia and they seem of the long-running series sex and the city is running for governor of new york, challenging andrew cuomo. she is 51 and has never sought office before.
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more on that story as we said in our 9:00 hour. we will be joined by a staff writer with wired magazine who has written about this topic for over a year now, about cambridge and their tactics. we will focus on that later on in our program. it is just after 7:30 a.m. on the east coast. we want to hear from you. mark's been waiting in california, also has been impacted. go ahead. caller: i would like to say i'm
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a vietnam veteran and i'm 65 years old. i've been on medications for pain for quite a few years now. of all the opioid deaths infected --'m being cut off from my medication. i really think they are taking it too far for responsible adults that are using medications such as me. i was into bad motorcycle accidents. i have a bad back and hip. i don't know what they expect us to do, we need medication to get through the day. it's really affecting older people, the fentanyl that's
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coming into this country is coming into the country by mail. you can order it over the computer if you want to. that's what people are doing. catch those people and put them in jail. affect us older americans that really need the medication to get through life's daily functions. this has to stop somewhere. imagine that the a has been taking care of me and giving me my pain medication for years wants to take them completely away from me. it's just completely wrong. in michigan has been impacted by the crisis. caller: good morning. i have so many things to say about this. my wife wasring is
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oxy for 30 years, many medications. she was getting this from many doctors. that is one of the biggest problems, these doctors are accountable for what they are giving out. getting place she was this medication was from one of betterposedly universities in this country, the university of michigan pain clinic was giving her 300 of these a month. she was in treatment five different times. it did not work. is personalis
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responsibility, but let me tell you what, these doctors are out of control. that's where you need to stop it. host: on that personal responsibility, there's a tweet from jan just now. it's always something that people will become addicted to. how do you stop addictive behavior? what would you say? caller: i agree with her. one of the things, one of the reasons my wife could get this was because she had scoliosis. she did have problems with her spine it. anythingicts will do more ofnything to get their medication. once they are addicted, they've got to have it. to survive from day-to-day, just
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like that gentleman set about his mother who committed suicide. it's a big problem. i don't know how they are going to solve it. the one thing i will say is i noticed the gentleman said something about the crack cocaine years ago. they need to get over that. they need to get over that. this is now today's problem. goes, as the fentanyl that stuff is a disaster. my wife got that from a doctor. stuff, sheok that was out of control. what eventually happened with your wife? caller: she passed away. it wasn't from drug addiction. got on something and was on it for a year. she had previously had breast
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cancer and the cancer came back. she only lived for about another month after that. as soon as she started to get pain from the cancer, she went right back to the opiates and -- opiates. host: thank you for sharing her story. abraham is in new york. it's funny how everybody wants to point fingers at what community started this and who's taking care of this community and not that community. in article days ago about five doctors being charged to new york for giving kickbacks from a drug company for overprescribing fentanyl. it ends up on our streets. there is no major repercussion directed at these companies. they are responsible for it.
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the research for the manufacturing and distribution that ends up on our streets, that has contributed to a mass epidemic and has resulted in tarrying up families, forcing people to go bankrupt, all of these problems in society because of opioids. i don't see the major impact or anybody making direct threats toward the pharmaceutical companies. we are trying to give the local dealers and impose life sentences on them. they are just trying to make a livelihood because most likely they didn't graduate from high school. they are not qualified for certain jobs. makewant to be able to money for their family. they resort to the dark market. what do you think about cracking down on the drug
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kingpin's? caller: at the end of the day, they are getting their drugs from pharmaceutical companies somehow. it all starts with the drug manufacturers. one day have the product from its conception, when they do thousands and thousands of research studies and new false information that it is less addictive than other drugs and then ends up on the street and increases a mass epidemic and millions of people are dying, it results on them. and insultit here somebody who doesn't have a high school education on selling drugs knowing that person can't even contribute to society. texas.avid is in good morning. caller: what i'm trying to figure out, when the crack
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epidemic was out here, it wasn't a big deal because it was 90% black. now that the lights are on opioids, it's a big crisis. you want to give death penalty the people selling drugs? it's coming from the white pharmaceuticals, the doctors are doing this. i'm not selling it, but let's say i am. you want to give me the death penalty, but it's coming from white doctors. you're not acting like it. know what give a you about crack because it was mostly black. now it's in your neighborhood and you are upset and mad. here,re selling pills up where do you think they are getting them from?
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they know how to make crack and cocaine, where are the pills coming from? they are coming from these doctors. if it's the doctors fault and you know it. maine, on thes in line for all others. caller: you guys have a great show. i listen to you every day. i agree with that caller right before me. somebody beat me to the punch a while ago, on individual responsibility. personal responsibility has been neglected. you don't care about that is part of the problem. it has to be dealt with. i've been on opioids before. if you follow the directions and do what you're supposed to do, we've never had a problem with
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it. the individual responsibility has not been emphasized enough on any station i've listened to. it's been whitewashed and politicized to a degree. host: do you think the president is emphasizing it enough? caller: i saw bits and pieces of his speech. i did hear him touch on it. at least that's in the right direction. i don't really agree with the death penalty. was individual responsibility can go a long way. one more thing, blending these problems too much. a person taking heroin on the street or getting it from a guy on the corner, their convoluted that with people getting prescribed drugs from their doctor. it shouldn't all be blended together. to a certain degree, they are
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different problems. host: which is the biggest problem? the way it's being for trade is the biggest problem. there's always going to be a street drug problem. we've tried that were on drugs for the last 30 years. , howidual responsibility they are prescribed, why they are subscribed, i don't know. it's all been blended into one problem. there are probably two or three different problems going on. individual responsibility would go a long way to solving the problem. host: you were talking about the portrayal of this problem, yesterday the president spoke about the creation of a media campaign that talks about this. here is more from the speech. >> spending a lot of money on
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great commercials showing how bad it is. kids see those commercials during the right shows on television or wherever, when they see these commercials, they will say i don't want any part of it. that's the least expensive thing we can do, when you scare them from ending up like the people in the commercials. we will make them very bad commercials. we will make them unsavory. you've seen it before. it had an impact on smoking and cigarettes. you see what happens to the mind. host: that was the president in new hampshire yesterday. if you want to see the speech in its entirety, you can go to www.c-span.org. we have several tweaks from the speaker yesterday. paul ryan writing
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chris is in louisiana on the line for those women impacted by opioids. caller: i just wanted to say a lot of what trump is talking about with the opioid epidemic is another way for him to scapegoat and point fingers at mexico and china. opioids for over five years. i've been in recovery for several years.
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i never bought a bill from a chinese person or a mexican. every time i bought illegal drugs, it came from a smalltime dealer who got them from a doctor. to the person who says it's illegal street drugs and legitimate medications are separate issues, they are not. they're the same issue. ago, you could buy heroin in the sears catalog. it was legal. it's the same thing with morphine. at one time, they were given to us. over time it, they became illegal. we've been fighting this war on drugs for over 50 years. there's one factor that remains the same, if i want don't i go get dope. , i go get dope.
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sean is in florida on the line for all others. glad he talked about the war on drugs. that's really my point. this war on drugs. nobody has been helped in the war on drugs. this is a health issue, not a prison issue. it kills me when i see these people trying to talk about we need to stop people from bringing it in overseas. everything came in from overseas. we have a society that has a bus of russian made goods. those guns aren't made in america. heroin, it's not grown
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in america. made in america. they are distributed by white doctors. problem in the disguise of people getting paid. a lot of people are filthy rich because of the opioid epidemic. the solution is were going to kill the people that push these drugs and you're not talking about killing doctors or killing pharmacy ceos? millioning to bet $1 those people won't go to jail. you will grab some guy off the corner and lock him up. there are still people in jail who sold crack in the 80's.
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if you want to talk about now, my people are doing good. person white or brown that is any problem with opioids. that is a white problem. eugene is on the line for those who have been impacted. caller: i agree with the last caller. i was impacted by drugs myself. i am close to 60. i was raised in new york. whole been through a epidemic. we survived the drugs. we persevered through the 80's. for thing to kill someone having some kind of substance is crazy.
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it's very ridiculous to even say something like that. you're just pointing the finger at the little person. what about the major companies? death sentence issue is pointing to drug kingpin laws, not the little person. you disagree with that approach altogether? caller: i do agree that these kingpins, these people who are making these drugs that are sending shipments and everything over, they should be prosecuted to the full extent. to kill somebody, come on. this epidemic they are talking about, it's been an epidemic for alcohol, that's the major killer in the world. host: some 42,000 people in
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america died as a result of inrdoses or related problems 2016. the numbers are likely to be worse from the final numbers come out for 2017. we have a few more minutes on this topic. we wanted to note that it's another primary day in illinois. voters are heading to the polls. this is from the chicago tribune this morning. 6:00 forlaces open at primary day. a rundown of some the big races to watch. is republican governor seeking reelection from a conservative challenger. the democratic voters are picking a candidate for governor from six candidates and -- candidates.
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both republicans and democrats will pick attorneys general. voterss of thousands of have already made their decisions. voters visited -- cast ballots already. we will report on that tomorrow morning. larry is in phoenix. we returned to the question about the opioid crisis. larry has been impacted by the crisis. trying i was a do-gooder to do something about the drug
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problem 30 years ago. studied at the university, trying to get something done about it. corruption inive law enforcement. there's no way to get anything done as an individual. host: what was the right thing to do 30 years ago? what were your recommendations 30 years ago? caller: i ran into a wall when it came to trying to get cooperation from law enforcement for things i found when i was trying to pursue learning who was doing what. it hasn't really changed. it's the money factor that drives the whole thing. i'm white. when it comes to minorities,
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they get dumped on. i'm not surprised it lacked people are disgusted. people are disgusted. they've been blamed and targeted with drugs. absolutelyting, it's disgusting with scott on in the past and the lack of interest in government. is guy we got in there now talking about the death penalty, but he's just throwing his weight around the room, trying to get attention and pretend he's going to do something. about is talking making room for himself to wheel and deal. it's just disgusting behavior. are more enforcement inclined to cooperate these days? caller: only to get money.
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one way or another. host: that was larry in arizona. jeannie is in delaware. good morning. this is ittake on presidentparents, our has come to the conclusion that all these other places have tried to clean up their streets. it is sort of laid to the side at the moment because of a pandemic that's going on. we don't have people who will support getting out there and trying to clean the streets up. it seems apparent that some of the parents what to make a black and white issue out of everything. these street drugs are there.
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and they help produce them. they are the ones out on the street, some of them are working, some of them don't work, medicaid is a big deterrent because they will go from dr. to dr. to doctor. , they go underon an assumed name. they get the drugs. a lot of times, they sell them on the street. oxycodone was the big when they sold many years ago. the doctors are at a disadvantage because they have to treat you to a certain degree. it's a serious thing. how do they know?
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host: you bring up medicaid. up,he new york times wrap they talked about medicaid as well. they note that the president declared the crisis a public health emergency. theas called for repealing affordable care act, which panded medicaid to cover treatment around the united states over the last few years. virginia is in pennsylvania on the line for all others. caller: i do believe in the death penalty. these people that push these drugs, they destroyed the user. they destroy their families. their families cannot be happy anymore. it's like a disease.
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i think the president is right. i think our country is too soft. we need the death penalty on these people. host: that was virginia. we will have time at the end for open phones. we can revisit this topic. we will be joined by claudia penny from new york. she will join us for the first time. we will discuss the shakeup of the national security team. ♪
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>> the c-span buses traveling across the country owner 50 capitals tour. in oklahomastopped city, oklahoma, asking folks what is the most important issue in their state? funding.ion we have a lot of challenges we face, but right now we have some of the lowest teacher pay in the country. here in the oklahoma city capital, we have been deliberating over this for the last year and to take -- your or two. we have been trying to get the oklahoma city senate and mayor's office right now to meet in the capital. we have a real crisis in the education system, we cannot have world-class teachers without competitive pay. the issues that are important
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to mirror the issues that affect rural oklahoma. we represent seven counties that are rural. [indiscernible] >> health issues are my background, so that is what we will continue to focus on. one of the most important issues we are facing here in oklahoma is the access to high-speed internet for all of our citizens. issue inst important oklahoma for me is to make sure we have a funded government that , so that future
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generations of oklahoma have an education system, transportation networks, and quality health care. this is from the states, on c-span. -- across the 50 states, on c-span. >> washington journal continues. host: for the first time on washington journal we welcome con -- claudia tenney, a republican from new york's way second district. your district is one of the tossup districts that will be on the front lines in the 2018 elections, how do you feel as a freshman member with that status? do you feel like you are walking around with a target on your back as you get to know your way around capitol hill? >> i'm used to that. i have always been an underdog. 2016i faced a three-way primary and three-way election where my opponents had about $15
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million and i had 3 million. i want general election by seven points. my general election by seven points. i stand for what i stand for, i tell the truth, i'm trying to make government better. my three terms in the new york state assembly i was never endorsed by my local republican committee, and i was still able to defeat the endorsed a candidate -- endorsed candidate. i feel like i'm independent, an underdog, and i have been fighting corruption in new york state. i feel i can match up perfectly with my opponent, who is the opposite of me in many ways. you're not a career politician? have you pledged a term limit? i am on term limit legislation, think it is important we have term limits because at this point people say the constitution does not say it, you get a term limit every
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two years, you face the voters. i think there is an advantage to an incumbent, and it seems so many people stay forever. years -- at than 10 that point what good are you doing? i love the jeffersonian idea of people coming out of the , getting into politics to help the country out. 50's, i got the politics late in life. i was an attorney, i ran my family business, i'm still a shareholder of my business and is a member of congress we can no longer hold any fiduciary position in a company. but i know what it is like to be a small business owner in a struggling economy. i think it is a real asset when you have to judge bills, legislation, and make decisions
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about what is best for our community. i actually live across the street from the house i grew up in. i'm committed to my community, i want to make it a better place. my community was once the beginning of the industrial revolution, a lot of companies were founded there, remington arms, paul revere started his company in our region. part of year, one of our great numbers of american history. that company is still there today. ibm was founded in binghamton, new york, also in my district. at one point they were thriving, they're now down to 200 jobs. we are looking at a comeback in new york, but it has been a battle with our state government and trying to bring some relief toward taxpayers. we have had the largest emmigration than any other state. in the past six years. host: would you want president trump to come in campaign with
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you in your district? guest: yes, i think he is provided a strength. for example the 2012 election point, hey won by one won but -- president trump one by 16 in my district. it is considered in our sixa --n 6.n r this district actually has 30,000 more republicans so it is not comparable to the pennsylvania race. i think trump ran a number of policies that people care about people -- care about. the huge cronyism rate, meaning we are taking a taxpayer money and giving it to businesses, some of the lowest rates of job production than any other state in the country are our concerns
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and we are looking for something different. the trade issue is really appealing to a lot of people in our area. we are losing so many of our manufacturing jobs, ionamin -- the manufacturing business was founded in 1946 in my district, inis tough to do business new york as a small business. we want to bring small businesses back and give them a chance to thrive. you mentioned taxpayer money and spending, there is a spending bill that is excited to be on the floor this week, over a trillion dollars, how will you vote on that bill? bills, weate omnibus had to face those in albany. my son is currently a captain in the marine corps, and the
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graduate of the naval academy and decided to be a marine. he was a graduate of the naval academy and decided to be a marine. i know it is important to fund the military, there is a lot of other spending, but i will add that i support a lot of programs like the community service program, protecting our community health centers, our agencies for people who are falling on hard times. my district has seen a massive talkingion, you are mobile theory crisis and these are real issues in my district. i hate to vote for things that do a lot of spending, but we have people who are at risk to need the support of government until we can get them back on the path to jobs. thankfully, it was a hard battle tax cuts, but it has turned out to be a great thing for my district. 95% of peopleing in my district are getting a tax cut, and that is great. they're coming up to me every
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day saying they're getting a tax cut. that is helping getting people back to work, our small businesses and even large businesses are adding jobs. they areh corning, bringing jobs back from overseas. not my district, they are just outside. a number of businesses are thriving now. hopefully business growth will bring us back to cover some of the spending that we have to do in the short term right now. i'm leaning yes, because i know it is important to fund the military as a mother of a marine officer who is also in logistics. he tells me that we are in top shape in our military and i think you heard that, when general mattis came to speak last month. he said the only thing more dangerous than our enemies as the u.s. congress. we take that seriously. --st: host: $700 million for military spending in the omnibus bill, we
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invite viewers to join in the conversation. for democrats (202) 748-8000, for republicans (202) 748-8001, for independents (202) 748-8002. we were talking with viewers earlier in our show about the opera crisis, i want to get your take on the tough stance that trump took yesterday when it came to law enforcement crackdowns on the opioid crisis and seeking death penalty sentences for the kingpins. dost: the president must throw ideas -- the president loves to throw ideas out there. i expect he knows that this is a serious issue. we have a lot of drugs coming across the border, and a lot of transactions with human trafficking. the house we recently passed human trafficking legislation. there are a lot of terrible
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things that are going on in our country. but this opioid crisis is really particularlyte, in my area. it is across all strata and it is really serious. i think the president is taking a strong stance, i'm not sure i would advocate the death penalty , but i think it is up to the law enforcement, district attorneys, and in new york state but is used for murderous crimes. manyight argue that people, coming from various guilty ofld be murder, but we have to prove that. i tend to walk gingerly in that area, we need to have proof and due process before we impose sanctions and fines against people. they have to be tried in a court of law among the jury of their peers. i respect the constitutional issues there. jack, on the democrat line. good morning.
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i have come to the overall,n that particularly with crime in the united states, it never ceases. because of one main reason. crime, -- if you salt all crime -- if you solved all crime, you would put judges and lawyers out of a job. in saudi arabia they deal with criminals quickly. they have a different type of economic system. it's very progressive economically, socially, and andaconservative -- socially, ultraconservative. it seems to work. on the molar issue, i wonder how much money it is going to take -- on the mueller issue, one how
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much money is going to take. but you do not have the guts to go after him. regarding crime i would love to see a lot of lawyers have less frivolous lawsuits, i agree with jack on that. we have a huge crisis in this country. judge, we have a litigation explosion in our country and it has been hurt by this overreach of trial lawyers. everything becomes a way for trial lawyers to profiteer off of cases. everyone runs around on eggshells and pins and needles worrying about being issued -- being sued all the time. there have been great books about how lawyers have destroyed america and we have become such a litigious society. you're never going to get rid of crime, human nature is human nature. , i think it iser
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interesting that we spent $46 million on an investigation so far that brought 13 indictments of russian nationals who -- i find it very hard to think we're going to get personal jurisdiction over that. weally that means how are going to prosecute these people? it is virtually impossible. dollars over million has been spent, and most of it was spent -- some of it was spent on trump and bernie sanders campaigns, but after that more money was spent on anti-trump protests. that was not part of russia collusion, that was after the election. i think you make some points, at what point do we really talk about collusion during the actual campaign. do you think the president should fire robert mueller? guest: let him carry on in the
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task is doing, hopefully he will focus on the issue that we have to come to, the collusion he was put out for, the parameters of the investigation. i assume there is not too much more of that to go. host: what -- at what point would you support the firing? guest: i don't see any reason to fire him at this point. the letter foro the special counsel to look into some of the past abuses that have happened in the ei under the -- under the cap and in the fbi under the prior administration. mark, on the independent line. morning, thank you for c-span. i think this lady is a little confused but the problems that are in this country because she is standing behind the military
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industrial and technology complex. that is the whole problem in a nutshell. inyou go back -- i just and when you were talking to a caller that was describing -- i just tuned in when you were talking to a caller that was describing how corrupt the and whatystem is, they're trying to do is totally corrupt. that is all i have to say and i would like to hear your comments. guest: i never said i supported the note or industrial complex, i think the military has to be held accountable. i think a great about general mattis is that he said that we will now be accountable. our defensethat department has never been accountable. and he's promised that the defense department will be accountable and more efficient. host: how will he show that? guest: it's a tough thing to show, we will have a mission to
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set up in the met -- we will set up a mission in the military, to secure our country, and somehow that mission changes, and with greater technology for that, and people will say that is a waste of money. i think going through the efficiencies, and make sure that our contract and is less. -- he is right, there's a lot of inefficiency in the military, but mattis is trying to move the military toustrial complex more able meet the needs of the military in an efficient way in a dynamic changing environment -- environment with our enemies. i'm not naive about what is going on with a lot of spending on the military side. i think he is right in that way, but i think we need to be more efficient. ofe heard so many accounts inefficiency in the military, and mattis has said to us that
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we are going to try to make the military more efficient and make sure that we are building on that. the jury is out on that. let see how it happens. but i do know that we have degraded our military ability over the years, and now we need to rebuild it, and it is more expensive and complicated now. i agree that there's a lot of corruption in small and large ways in our justice system. we see it locally, we see on the national level, we are showing that are fbi is not what we thought it was. and i agree with the caller on that. host: 15 minutes left with claudia tenney. eduardo, go ahead. caller: my question is on spending in the military. host: go ahead with your question. i do not think we should
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keep spending more and more money on the military when there is no threat to us. the only threat is the rocket man, but he is no threat to us. we have things to knock and -- to knock them down before he could put them up. would you like to talk about threats to us? guest: i respectfully disagree, we have a great military, but his been degraded over the year and we need to rebuild it become technologically more dance. you can hear from every military people who have come before congress and of met with us meetings, that we need to upgrade our military in many ways. i do not serve on the health -- on the human services committee,
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but i have inside knowledge of what is happening, and i do think that our military is one of the most important aspects of federal spending. the reason we created the states, the -- we a colonies, created the constitution and the federal government was mainly for military and border security. we have to make sure we are up to speed to that, and efficiency is really important. we have to hold general mattis in the department accountable. i think efficiency and having a i listen toology, some of my outstanding members ,f congress, former generals about where we are and where we are behind, and so many of our -- our pilots are unable to fly. i do not know the status is today, but a month ago we had
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more military personnel lost in training incidents than combat. that is not a good state of affairs. host: on her democratic line, good morning. caller: -- host: on our democratic line, good morning. i'm delighted to hear the support for the hard-working overtax residents of the 22nd district where i live, i have two questions. support foriven her the overtaxed folks in the country, why did she support besidesax cuts which increasing the national deficit temporary taxl cuts to most americans and very .arge ones to the superrich
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the second question is, when is she going to hold town meeting so she can meet with her constituents? i do not think of congressman tenney as a shrinking violet. and i'm sure town hall, if she got her spirit up, it would be a very spirited dialogue. host: those are two perfect questions, -- guest: those are two perfect questions, they have to be planted. the tax cuts give tax cuts to lower and middle income families. i hear everyday from accountants teachers,duals, and and by the way do not tell my bosses -- telling me to not tell their bosses that they are getting tax cuts. we know firsthand that tax cuts are helping. we can make these tax cuts permanent if only the democrats
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will stand up and vote with that's and make them permanent. to say that the wealthy got the biggest tax cut, but we went from 39% is the highest tax rate of 37 and a half, but what we did is lower the corporate tax rate. most businesses throughout the nation's small businesses, many are getting advantages. they are creating jobs. i was a small business yesterday talkingator gillibrand that have the small business, a pass-through, got a benefit. they can now buy more equipment. this is happening all over new york twice second district. -- new york's 22nd district. townhall i love settings, very few people showed up, but i love them. i love the interaction. i love to talk about the issues. i am no shrinking violet.
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i ran against the virtual wall of money and was able to succeed . i love to engage with people. i like to talk with them. i had huge townhall in camden where we had almost 300 people show up, drug the year i have been getting a lot of -- throughout the year i have been getting a lot of death threats. but i going to each counting, we didform, townhall, huge forum -- two or three, in binghamton. , wewas at the holiday inn did huge open opioid forum, we have done coffees were we have people come in. i met one-on-one with a lot of protesters. i will tyga funny story. these protesters come to my office every week -- i will tell you a funny story, these protesters come to my office every week.
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they don't really show up now, we brought coffee and donuts out to them. as it is i finished a 45 minute meeting with one of the protesters and listen to her as irns -- as soon finished a 45 minute meeting with one of the protesters and listen to her concerns she went out to the media and said that she refuses to listen to me. i would love to have more people reach out to us and do meetings in town halls. we will be doing more as time goes on. but do not want to go to an chamber and have no one in their . and a lot of democrats is that you should do a townhall were we only let democrats in the room. i do not believe that is representative of our reason, let's have everyone. how do you deal with death threats? host: -- guest: the morning that steve scalise got shot i got a death threat right away, i am not worried about me, my son is doing well, my parents of passed
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away, i was more worried about my dog. they post in my address on facebook. iey urged to go to my house, know that it's happened to other members. but i live alone in my house. i think as a single woman i do have legal guns at my house. i am more worried that if i'm at working with veterans who help on a daily basis, and seniors to make sure that we protect them, i'm totally opposed to reductions in social security, or medicare. especially in my region. we need those. my parents were dependent on those and i will be too. i am more worried about them, the people coming to my office. people who are coming for assistance on immigration issues. those are confidential matters. people have been very aggressive towards people in my office, posting their pictures online.
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it is an aggressive dialogue that i've not seen in my political life, in my whole life . i think the temperature needs to come down. i think it would be very surprised, like this gentleman, they just sit and listen, and not listen to all the noise and the negativity, i spent him of ,0 years of my life as a lawyer helping a genuine native american against the fraudulent claim against him to try to preserve his land and culture. i did it for free, it cost me thousands of dollars and hours. the person spent millions of dollars against me in campaign, but i put up for this man and his family, and it was important to me because i care about and theng his culture true american hero that he really is. those are things i have done him i am. i worked in the former, i helped bosnian refugees, they were coming to our region -- i worked
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in the former yugoslavia, i helped bosnian refugees. i worked in the yugoslavian .onsulate i worked at the refugee center and we have been wonderfully welcoming to refugees. a lot of these things do not come out. worked a lot, i'm not a person with a lot of money, but i'm a person who is put my heart and soul into the job in helping to lead the people in our community. it is frustrating. this guy, why have you not been to the town halls? he -- we notify people. it is frustrating at times. but that is politics. minutes left, peggy has been waiting, on the independent line. caller: good morning. i would like to know if she knows -- if claudia tenney
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knows, how much money was spent on secretary's stents -- secondary states hillary clinton's email investigation. since she knows how much is been spent on the trump investigation. no idea, but i cannot understand why we have not had a prosecution on that side. where's eric holder on these issues? there were obvious violations and criminal actions. as a lawyer, why did we not pursue those? that is why asking for second special counsel -- i do not think anyone is above the law and we need to pursue those. i do not care who it is, republican or democrat. host: wanda is waiting on the democratic -- on the independent line. , iler: my name is wanda claim independent because i'm so frustrated with the republicans and the democrats.
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thank you for c-span. now i know what is really going on in the government. ,ou guys are governing money every time trump goes to talk to the big people, he had a new tax every time he went to speak for the military people when he got every to black people -- time time goes to talk to be people in the military he wears a tie. when he comes to talk to black people he does not. i could've been a businesswoman, but because of this government, a 33-year-old felon who has not -- who is not had a charge cents --since- host: what is your question for the congresswoman? when someone wakes up in
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the morning and says i'm going to go kill someone, it comes from pain. when someone says they get on just when someone gets on drugs, is because they have no hope. you guys have to start looking down at the people who are black and not have a silver spoon money. host: congresswoman i will let you jump in. guest: i think wanda is right, there is corruption on both sides. ices in the newspaper too, be an editor and publisher. i used to write editorials -- i , and i write editorials used to criticize republicans frequently because there were more republicans in our area. that is probably worth republicans do not endorse me.
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i've feel like -- i feel like the role of media is to be a watchdog for the citizens regardless of party. once you get election -- once you collected you do not represent just republicans or democrats. you represent everyone. that is why it is so important for me that everyone needs to be involved, it's what we have to call out both sides and be as fair as we can. i understand their biases and -- i understand that there are biases in different medias, but it is important talk about the facts. our local media does not talk about what is going on in albany , what is going on in washington, they rarely cover anything unless it is a soundbite level issue. i look at the old newspapers in the old media accounts. in the media was doing its job. the job of the fourth estate is to report facts so public and look at that and find out what the truth is in come to their conclusion on which side they happen to believe.
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facts areacts -- the crowded by -- clouded by hysteria. that is part of the struggle that everyone in our community has to face. we have so much media that we have never had in the past. so hardial media, it is to know who is telling the truth. i think that is a challenge for all of us. it there,ave to end claudia tenney, a republican from new york's 22nd district. joined byll be congressman boyle, a democrat from pennsylvania. later we will learn more about the data on millions of facebook users. ♪
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♪ q&a, amy on c-span's talks about her book political tribes. mobile calls for overcoming political tribalism. we need to be able to talk to each other as americans again, and not just say you are the evil one. it used to be the people on the other side of the political divide were just people that we disagreed with. now it is almost like the people who voted for the other .andidate are immoral they are not even real americans anymore. because i studied democracies libya,the world, such as what is the difference between libya and the united states? libby is an ultimate --
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we welcome congressman , a democrat from the 13th district of pennsylvania. -- we talkedfour before about russian interference, i wonder your thoughts as we get to read the president's twitter feed to see the president go after mueller and his team directly for the first time. guest: what i think is missing from the conversation is that nothing is being done to prevent this from happening again in 2018. i'm from pennsylvania, one of the states that we now know has operatives of the russian governments -- one of the states we now know russian operatives attempted to hack. we have paper ballots. we would be highly vulnerable. you have top leadership in both the intelligence and defense side testify under oath that the
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president of the united states still has not given them in order to act in order to prevent what happened in 2016 from happening in 2018. all 16 of our intelligence agencies have concluded that there was russian interference in the past election. it was a course designed to benefit one candidate over the other. by the way, there is no guarantee that in the future that russian interference will always help the republican candidate. i think their motive is to sow division in our society. what kindthis go on of democracy do we have? for those on the other side of the aisle that might want to go slow in this investigation, remember, come 2020, the shoe might be on the other foot. it is important that we work together as americans to find out what happened in 2016, but also to prevent it for 2018 and 2020. host: what piece of legislation
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is out there that you can get some support to move forward? i happen to be a cosponsor of a number of legislations that would mandate that we have a paper ballot trail -- i haven't yet cosponsor of legislation that would mandate that we have a paper ballot trail. there would be a mandatory audit of a statistically significant sample to make sure that the electronic results match with the paper records. that is just one example. another is making sure that we have disclosure of ads that are online. that was a real problem in 2016. the president uses the term fake news, but the term was actually invented to describe what was happening in eastern europe and russia where you have whole office building such as the one you're in now filled with people who are going on and spreading to pose -- supposedly new stories that were not actually
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newspapers at all to sow division. those are two quick examples of legislation that we need, and others as we move forward. especially in my view as it relates to campaign finance. of elections, your take as a member of the foreign affairs committee, largeants --putin's margin of victory. it's a complete farce, and there is no democracy in russia. if we look at 1990 there was a brief. let theme about -- you're putting has gone about systematically destroying democracy. it is not as ballot stuffing, there is also us -- that was a small part of the effort. when he took over the independent media and ended the independent media and russia,
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that had a dramatic effect. allowct that he would not to run the strongest competitor against him. all of these things combined in short that he was going to win. he could won by a higher margin if he wanted to, but he wanted to make it at least look like a plausible margin i assume. the reality is that we are unfortunately going to be dealing with the problem of vladimir putin for a while. host: what you make of the shakeup in the president's national security team? in the firing of rex tillerson last week? from day one that has been mass confusion in the white house. if you talk to people who have been here for a while, they have never seen anything like it, whether democratic or republican administration. we have never had such turnover in the first year of a presidency, it has caused chaos.
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i serve on the foreign command security -- foreign affairs committee. in the state department have the majority of senior-level positions unfilled. the president was rolling out a new proposal with respect to the middle east some months ago without recognizing -- about recognizing jerusalem. in a number of these company -- these countries we did not have ambassadors on the ground to explain this position. unfortunately the firing of the secretary of state in a humiliating way, is just the latest in a continuation of chaos that started last january. host: we have brendan boyle with us. ,202) 748-8001for republicans for democrats (202) 748-8000. for independents (202) 748-8002. are we going to see another shutdown on friday? guest: no one wants that.
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i would be very surprised. never say never, i think it is highly unlikely. host: what is a dealbreaker for you? i do not want to negotiate here are going to hypotheticals, we can talk about any specific issuer area, but i do not believe taxing 1 -- in boxing oneself and until you see were negotiations are going. i have not been a supporter of funding the wall. it is a complete waste of money, it is not popularly supported by the american people and the reality is, i believe we desperately need border security. we have an issue with drugs coming over the southern border, and there is always a national security consideration if isis, or al qaeda, or some terrorist group were to in for its rate -- were to infiltrate our country through the border.
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let's not forget that a lot of talk of the border started at the primary campaign in the trump rallies, it is really about xenophobia. it is about what trump -- is that what president trump said in his opening speech, accusing mexicans of being rapists and murderers. there's a disgusting language and rhetoric, and similar language has been extended to similar immigrant groups. i happen to be the son of an immigrant myself. when we talk about the border wall, let us remember is not about the brick-and-mortar. for president trump and his supporters it is a metaphor for closing the country off to immigration. host: gym, on the democrat line. on the democrat line. caller: congressman i heard you say putin does not like democracy.
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i do not think russia was ever intended to be a democracy. when they went to the revolution 1917 -- there was no mention of democracy like our country. russia is a completely different country, so do not know why you would think that the -- that democracy,s in a we don't. we pledge allegiance of the flag , into -- and to the republic for which it stands, not democracy. guest: first what was referring in 1991, the time of the fall of the berlin wall on christmas day in the early 1990's. it was in 91 when the soviet union officially ceased to
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exist. all of us in the west were very optimistic and hopeful that we would now have a democracy. and for a brief. in the 1990's russia had a democracy. as part of the united states i do believe we have a democracy, it is imperfect, we are constantly doing the work of improving it, yes we do have a small republican form of government, but that does not conflict with the fact that we are democracy. host: in washington, richard, on the republican line. caller: i want to know if this is the way democrats are, it is racist to call all mexicans the same type of people, that democrats say that if you hate the mexicans that are sent here with guns and drugs, then you hate all mexicans who chose to come here because all mexicans are the same. is racist a call obama a black chimpanzee, but democrats call trump because -- and orange orangutan, because he is norwegian.
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host: we need your point richard. it was president trump who called mexicans rapists and murderers. that was not me. i think it is fair to say trump has a rather dim view of the people of mexico. in virginia, go ahead. caller: you made an observation about the current volatility within the administration, specifically about the lack of ambassadors. i would like to push you on that point, let's take from 2012 the 2016, i assume there were sitting ambassadors, it did not prevent russian interference or the volatility in the middle east. yucca explain that point
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-- point? guest: it's a fair point. having ambassadors and other senior-level diplomats does not guarantee success by any means. there are a number of areas that have not been successful from an american viewpoint. that said, having diplomats on the ground and other senior state department officials does make a difference. difference.ositive i cannot tell you for example, i'm just thinking of the time i went to the g20 summit last year, when i went to germany. i spoke to a number of german business officials, they are pro-american, they do a lot of business with the united states and germany. this was may of last year, they talked about not knowing what is going on in the united states and being quite concerned. having someone on the ground who
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can assuage them, who can explain the american viewpoint, is really important. the fact that we have so many of these positions unfilled, the majority of them over a year and the administration, it is bizarre. we've never faced this before. host: craig, on the republican line. caller: good morning. my question and comment has to do with border security. you mentioned that we do need more -- better border security. i'm interested in what you would do and as a republican deplorable, you have already called me a name this morning, with what you are talking about. your perfect reason for term limits. -- you are a perfect reason for term limits. guest: in terms of border security, which i do believe we need, keep in mind that a number of the illegal immigrant population is not ask of people who illegally cross our border, those are people who overstay visas. some making sure that we are tightening up that system and
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using greater technological capabilities at the southern border is certainly something that we can do it is far less expensive. i would point out in this was something that president obama was criticized for on the left. our border security has improved, not just in the last year, but even through the obama administration it was something that was little trump about -- it was a little talked about. there has been a dramatic increase in funding and it will continue to grow. my point is that when lat -- when trump leslie talks about build the wall -- when trump loudly talks about build the wall, that is about more than border security. host: the caller talked about your tenure in congress. guest: i've only been there for four years. host: and the redrawn pennsylvania map, we could show
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viewers the redrawn map here in the wall street journal. the 13th district is now on the middle side of the state in the south. 13th district the congressman represents now is right around philadelphia. host: in addition to doing a dramatic redraw to make the districts more fair and more representative of their populations, the mapmaker also decided to re-number the districts. which is that a to the confusion. what happened in my district is that i represent part of the city of philadelphia and part of the suburbs in montgomery county. , myistrict was split in two new district will be the second district of pennsylvania, entirely in the city of philadelphia where i was born and raised. as we going to november, i believe that six to seven of the 18 congressional districts will be hypercompetitive seats. basically 50-50 seats which is
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good for democracy. we do not want to have a fixed map where you have 13 overwhelmingly republican districts or frankly 13 overwhelmingly democratic districts and five the other way. is the second one of the hyper competitive -- hypercompetitive district? , if they thought the population which is very largely democratic. a few overwhelmingly democratic and a few overwhelmingly republican districts. the top central and south central parts are overwhelmingly republican. and the two district in philadelphia are going to be overwhelmingly democratic. and the rest of the state's competitive. host: what you take away from
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the 18th district election? guest: i was an early supporter of conor lamb, going back to last december. i think what is really important and i hope that folks in this town recognize this. it is not just more upscale suburban areas that are generally republican leanings that have turned against president trump, is also blue-collar areas. conor lamb's win was the first indication that in a nonexclusively but in a largely -- certainly majority working-class district, in a district trump won by 20 points and romney carried by 17, we were able to win. when i was a state legislator in pennsylvania, we had a lot of representatives, and our party cannot give up on any slice of america, that includes working-class areas. host: was it smart of conor lamb
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to disavow nancy pelosi? should party leaders allow other candidates to do that yucca -- that? guest: it is up to the candidates to do what they want. conor lamb ran his own race. when i was running there was no direction from washington, d.c.. i think there is a misperception about that. the candidates tend to be in more -- 10 to be more independent than people realize. host: on the democrat line, go ahead. caller: good morning. .'m proud of this young man this is what we need in the democratic party. to standounger heads up. i want to see more young democrats running for office. i like you young man. stand your ground. and i want to say this.
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republicans, stand for something. you're demonizing a woman and we are not going to have this. nancy pelosi is not the problem, it is the spineless republican men that are not standing up to donald trump. on, histoo much going character is lost. we have no class from president trump. guest: thank you for the very nice and kind remarks. i do think that republicans are up onto attempt to beat nancy pelosi, they do that every two years. they're going to tell -- attempt to run on their tax cuts. they might try fear touch it -- , with the victory in district 18 showed is that
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none of that work. when a lot of the special elections in 2017 have showed, especially at the state legislative level, with but none of that work. but the reality is that that is nothing and -- nothing new. the midterm elections are more than anything a referendum on the current president. host: richard, on the republican line. caller: conor lamb did a commercial showing that he was pro-gun, he had an ar-15, and i think he is pro-life. but that is for another time. immigration earlier you're talking about, you said you went to germany. how is the immigration policy going on over there in europe? when youon to you sir, took your oath of office to protect and preserve the constitution and to protect this country, are we a country of laws?
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and the people come to this country illegally, did they break the law? and are you ok with people breaking the law? host: we are a nation of laws -- guest: yes we are a nation of laws, no i'm not ok with someone coming here illegally. they should not be allowed to jump the line. when president obama proposed and there are public and controlled senate passed by a ,arge margin a compromise bill -- a compromise bill, you actually have these people go to the back of the line and pay a penalty. coming to the come in -- the country illegally is a violation of civil law, not criminal law. is fordo think is unfair example, when we talk about the dream act, penalizing those americans who came here when they were two to four years old, they did not make the choice to come here, and grew up your,
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speak perfect english with an american accent, and now wherely are his situation they -- are in a situation where they could be deported to a country they do not even know. that is wrong. it would be very unwise for country so invested in the education of these young people, now that we society are about to , toa bank for our box suddenly deport them to the country they do not know. auerbach -- our buck, to submit deport them to a country they do not now. and to the gun issue, connor and i have different views on the gun issue. i participated on a citizen -- on a sit in, i support the second amendment and also reasonable restriction. host: what does that mean? guest: you could be on the
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terrorist watch list, but go on a gun shop -- but go in a gun .hop and buy in ar-15 you could violate the background check system by going to a gun show and buying a gun even if you have a criminal record. those are two quick examples. lost and stolen, to talk to philadelphia police so many of the illegal guns on the street are purchased by straw purchasers because there are no requirements if you lose a gun or if it is stolen to report that. what they simply do as have someone illegally by the gun -- someone illegally by the gun -- someone legally buy the gun and lose it. we as the democratic party cannot have 100% litmus test on every issue. the fact that connor and i disagree on that issue, but we agree probably on the 85% of the issues that is good enough for
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me. i would much rather have a democrat i agree with an 8 -- have a democrat that i agree with 85% of the time, than a that i agree with 0% of the time. we need to be tolerant of dissent in some areas. account -- iss rick's account -- is rick saccone someone you disagree --h 0% of the time you come time? he calls himself trump for trump. he is a conservative straight down the line. state compare him with legislature on serious issues as opposed to ceremonial votes, i doubt there are many were we voted alike. host: cora, on the democrat line. good morning, thank you for taking my call.
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man,t to ask the young there are two other branches of government, what can they do to we have the cia and the fbi and all of these people. this man is doing what he wants to do as president. he is burying this country and hate -- in hate. there seems to be nothing we can do. host: to be clear when you talk about the protections we need, do you mean our earlier conversation about the security of the voting system in this country at -- this country? caller: yes, and the power they
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can do to stop him from selling this country out of foreign countries. and disobeying all of the norms and the laws. people do not have confidence. host: we got your point. guest: this is not a partisan statement, because i have known bush,this if george h.w. or ronald reagan were in the same position, or eisenhower, or any democratic president were in a similar position, i certainly believe they would say my god, russians interfered with our election, we have to show them that they can never do this again. there has to be consequences. we have to ensure that the sanctions that congress passed unanimously go into effect.
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host: up next on "washington journal," wired magazine senior riter issie lapowsky will join us to talk about the data firm connected to the trump residential campaign that harvested and kept data on millions of facebook users. we'll be right back. >> we recently stopped in oklahoma city, oklahoma, asking important is the most issue in their state. the most important issue is
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education funding. we have a lot of challenges we the lowest teacher pay, losing teachers to other and here s and states at the oklahoma state, we've been deliberating over this for two years, it's a serious problem. i'm transitioning from oklahoma mayor's office right now, it is just as much challenge arizona the capital. a have got to have world-class education system, we can't do that without can't lass teachers and have world-class teachers without competitive pay, that is oklahoma.in >> the issue most important to me is number of issues that oklahoma.ral 77 present -- oklahoma has counties, i represent seven of those. oklahoma. biggest in the issues include issues that prevalent in my issue, as well as wind farms, wind has while.here for a
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also, ag issues, ag is my background, it is what i have my whole life. i come from a family of farmers and ranchers, that is what i do and continue to do. hose types of issues that i am most passionate about in my district. >> one of the most important facing in oklahoma is access to high-speed internet areas citizens, rural and urban areas, as well. >> the most important issue in klahoma for me is making sure we have a funded government that works and that is being responsible to take care of make sure future generations of oklahomans have education system, transportation works and quality healthcare in this state. >> hear from the states on c-span. >> "washington journal" continues. ost: issie lapowsky is senior writer with wired magazine joining us to talk about how
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ata on 50 million facebook users ended up in the hands of a data analytics firm connected to campaign. issie lapowsky, this controversy revolves around cambridge are they? who guest: cambridge analytica is a that spun out of a british company called scl. nd they're basically an ad marketing firm, but their big marketing pitch to their clients s we do something called psychographic targeting, that is ifferent than demographic targeting, gender, where you live, age range, things like that. companies, we understand people's psychology, their personality and the big question long has been how do they understand that. hey have said they do personality surveys, that they data,mmercially available but we're learning a lot of these personality profiles were facebook data. that they acquired from a
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third-party researcher they back in artnering with 2014. cambridge analytica did work campaign, rump embedded staff inside the trump campaign and prior to that, they ted cruz h the campaign. a lot of ways the facebook data ad ld have made it to targeting during the 2016 election. interested re they in the data and what did they do with it? guest: in order to create profile, you need information about how people feel about big hot button issues. they partnered with the researcher from the university he ambridge n. 2014, developed an app, this is your digital life. app to ed like a fun facebook users. it will predict your personality based on your answers, app to 2 users downloaded the so, they n doing handed over personal data and the data of their entire friend
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network. information about how people are like.cted, the things they that researcher took 50 million profiles from facebook and passed to cambridge analytica. what we are learning from "new and the guardian, who broke the story over the profiles 0 million contained enough information cambridge analytica could come of ith personality profiles the u.s. that was integral to their development as a company faceboodata. clear, whether that data was used during the trump campaign. according to the trump campaign, they were relying on republican national committee data. data scientists were carving into audiences the trump campaign could target to.rtising host: i should note that issie lapowsky of wired has been writing about cambridge for over a year now, i several stories in wired,
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will point you to, if you want to take a look at her work. to answer questions for the next 25 minutes. democrats, 202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. issie lapowsky, as folks are this g in, was any of illegal we talked about so far? guest: that's a really good question. the was not illegal in united states. facebook allowed any ad developer to do this, they basically changed their rules in 2015 to say now apartly cloudyp developers are allowed from people who willingly download the app, but off the social graph, network of information about people's friends, done in compliance with facebook's terms at the time. 2015, oblem is, in facebook became alerted to the
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fact this third-party researcher the app passed that data on to cambridge, that is in of facebook's terms. facebook had the researcher, it and ambridge analytica cambridge analytica off-shoot signed legally binding documents saying they had deleted the dat a.s we're finding out from the "new york times," the guardian and my own reporting, they may not have deleted the data and may have remained visible to select employees, that is what facebook is interested in auditing. stormed into scl's headquarters yesterday and were promising to audit it, they were shut down by the u.k.'s information commissioner who ants to conduct their own investigation, i think a lot of regulators are hoping this can be done through formal channels not sorted out between facebook and companies behind losed doors, because obviously that hasn't worked well in the past. host: one example of issie
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lapowsky reporting from wired cambridge analytica 50 million facebook data and both ompanies owe answers, what answers do members of congress want from facebook? see : well, they want to mark zuckerberg come to washington and testify. facebook, google and twitter sent lawyers to congress to talk about russian during then platform 2016 election and i think a lot of members of congress were with the fact they were seeing these lawyers and not the founders of the and the very powerful c.e.o.s. mark zuckerberg has been called think senate judiciary, i they're going to be interested, regulators, as well, for an explanation as to why such a rocess was ever possible that you could scoop up this data from people's friend networks without anybody knows about it and they want to know what mechanisms facebook is going to put in place to make sure leak f information doesn't happen
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again. host: get to calls. henry up first in michigan. for democrats. good morning, henry. caller: morning. i would like to ask the young whether she could verify whether the individual that came for the he app personality quiz or test or hatever it is, was a russian professor and also, if she could more ten us a little bit n the russians connection with cambridge analytica and how they kept asking cambridge analytica data and the trump campaign obviously had dealings with cambridge analytica, as well, and whether the two sides coincided, which would probably pretty good case for in the 2016 election.
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host: issie lapowsky. guest: sure. the professor you are eferencing, dr. alexander american, is russian but not necessarily tied to russian government, that hasn't een explored, he's still working at cambridge, as far as understand, there has been reporting that scl and cambridge oil company the luke oil. their defense is scl has clients globe, they work for government and commercial politicians and arguing nothing political about the nature of the conversations. to be se that is going subject to further investigation, i'm sure as ambridge comes into the spotlight. host: tom in harrisburg, pennsylvania, an independent, go ahead. want to first say before i ask my question, it is mazing that data can prevent the hillary clinton from
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campaigning in wisconsin, michigan, g in campaign nothing pennsylvania and running a horrible ad campaign, that just blows my mind. my question is, first we're told james comey lost the lection for hillary, then told russia lost the campaign for hillary, now we're being told ambridge analytica lost the campaign for hillary, when are we going to finally admit illary lost the campaign for hillary. host: tom, did you have a question for issie lapowsky? with a statement anything you want on that issue, issie lapowsky? guest: sure. i would think it would be the it to say o look at cambridge analytica lost the campaign for hillary. i think the big scandal here is our data as americans is being bought and traded by without any regulation. i think people are accustomed to data being sold for advertising for a clothingte store and that piece of clothing
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that you lingered on shows up on facebook page later and you are wondering why, but it doesn't really bother you, technology can be used to influence your choice to the president or influence democracy in some way, i think that should bother people that this information is being freely bought and sold and in some cases, being were on to entities that never supposed to be part of the agreement to begin with. don't think this is a conversation necessarily about the election, frankly, it is a onversation about data privacy and security. host: plano, texas is next. patty, republican. good morning. good morning. hi. yeah. lady, wanted to ask the why -- has she checked back through the obama administration and clinton administration? they both needed these people tried to n's campaign use the information that obama understand, i don't think they wanted to give
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thosethem, can she answer for me? host: issie lapowsky. guest: i think what you're campaign is every uses data, right? hillary clinton campaign was working workingebook, they were with google and twitter, as was the trump campaign. this is part of modern campaigning, they have been doing television advertising for ears and campaigns are realizing digital campaigns are more effective and more cost-effective. campaigns are gathering obama f data and the campaign was using the same loophole that allowed them to data on people's friend network on facebook, that is a question we have to ask ourselves, are we okay with that? side is doing it more, which side is behaving badly, are the american people okay this as a new process in political campaigning? facebook, this of from the front page of the "wall
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treet journal," business and finance, facebook shares posted largest decline in four years dropping $12.53 or wiping out 36.4 billion in market value news about cambridge stories came out. in the editorial section, lead editorial in "new york times" is facebook saying facebook annot police itself the editorial board calling on congress to strengthen privacy aws in the wake of this incident. issie lapowsky, who is leading he charge in congress on that front? guest: well, i would say senator and clobeshar have critics front and been of the companies, not just in regard with the cambridge tolytica news, but in regard ads sold to internet research
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propaganda ssian group. those senators, along with senator john mccain introduced honest ads act, require ads, werency for digital are used to seeing t.v. ads that donald trump or paid for by hillary clinton, no uch regulation exist for digital. the companies are trying to promising lagsz by to do that themselves, a lot of doubting whether facebook can police itself. the e.u. are ahead of the united states in terms of privacy protection. the data can be asked to be erased or corrected to be more accurate and new regulation in the e.u, as well. the u.s. is definitely following on our regulators across the
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water. alex stamos? a name that has come up in the ast couple days and gotten a lot of attention. guest: sure. securityos was head of for facebook. he was previously yahoo, oversaw major data breach at yahoo. news broken yesterday that he people at facebook he's leaving the company. twitter and ook to said that is not exactly true, he's moving into a different election ing on security. we'll have to see in the doesning months whether he stay on at the company or the "new york times" reporting was accurate on that. a democrat, good morning. caller: good morning. two things. of all, my lack of interest of all things computers amazing. second of all, i was taught passing e i got caught a note in school that never
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write down what you don't want whole world to read. amazed at the fact that even what i don't want people to down in a diary on the computer can be known to one.body, number my second question is about last election.he i read an article that i didn't saying that they were looking at package of being sent from theia to the bank server in trump tower that was, you know, being sent to computers at amway. i don't know if you heard anything about that or, i mean, technically so tupid that i can't explain it, but you hit a connection and it
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article that n some technical geek says, you you do it and ow the package and information can be saddled on to regular bank transitions. host: i think we got the question, mark. issie lapowsky, something you cover? not exactly sure what story you're referring to, as far as cambridge analytica and connection to russia, as i said, as far as we know, there meetings between the company and the russian oil is something they explain away by saying, yes, we do business around the world, look into the article you were mentioning. host: another mark in lakeville, connecticut, a republican, go ahead. curious, es, sir, i'm you know, when it came to things arab he russian, the pring and it was lauded really as positive thing social media as used to enact changes that
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appened and as far as the last administration, when they ran their campaign, it was seen as that they used social media to organize. i just want to know how can we a different reaction to basically the trump used bannon to secure the same resources and utilize them? you, that's all i got. guest: you are absolutely right. is a new way of looking at a process that is not exactly new. obama used during the campaign. used media was certainly during the arab spring. divisiveness uring the 2016 election, polarization, that people started to see the ugly side of what tech can accomplish. it all when it was new, seemed great and you weren't
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necessarily seeing the trolls with e bots like we did the 2016 election. i would also say it has grown substantially since 2008, 2009 and 2012, even. users.on use percent age is higher. sales of advertising to russian propaganda groups, we according to the mueller indictment, intentional efforts pit americans o against each other. in some cases they even on facebook were real-life events that they were trying to get eople to, you know, go out in the streets and protest each other. they would plan protests on both issue to get americans to fight each other. when you see the same tools used in the past, maybe celebrated in the past, can be for bad.ed people are turning a critical
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platforms now. host: bring in comments from cambridge analytica twitter responding ave been to various stories about their company and what they did and didn't do. we are eted yesterday, not alone in using data from social media site to extract lots of rmation, companies from researchers to data in ies use marketing. -- if success breeds envy and scrutiny, so be companies have used our tactics. in thebook data was used 2016 presidential election. issie lapowsky. that is a little bit of a weak response because not only are we seeing that they on to the data when they promised to get rid of it, although they deny that. lot of data forms that work in u.s.-based cs are companies.
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cambridge does work all around the world. posed as an -- reporter infixer for a wealthy client the c.e.o. ou have of cambridge analytica talking penly about tactics like extortion, like bribery, paying people off and filming it. know, said the news they spread doesn't have to be true, believable.be another executive said it is wrong to win elections on facts, is all about emotion. i think people have concerns u.s., even in the though data mining and targeting practice, this bragging ompany
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on -- host: cambridge analytica responded to that report, which been subject of plenty of stories in today's papers. editied, the report is scripted and grossly misrepresents the nature of the and how the company conducts its business. out idge analytica putting various statement necessary response to the stories. issie lapowsky is with wired few more ith us for a minutes to answer your questions about the story. wales, new south york, a democrat, go ahead. democrat, i'mi'm a a motorcyclist and i'm very autonomous bout vehicles. oing forward i see these vehicles collecting a lot of that data users could be misused and i'm wonder that ng your views on would be moving forward?
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thank you. yeah, that's a smart question and not just autonomous vehicle, internet of things, from your microwave to your connected.n be you are right, it is collecting information on the people who know , you have no way to where that information ends up. i don't think a lot of people realize there are firms who sell information on what you buy because they have partnerships with major credit card companies everything you buy can be purchased by political campaign advertiser for a brand, so attention to ur data privacy should be much broader than how it influence it should apply to all of the companies whether it is autonomous vehicles or interpet-connected refrigerator. host: forney, texas, cindy, an go ahead.t, caller: yes, a lot of people use
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ads put for ads, but out by russia makes the american people look very stupid. i have seen some of the ads, my phone, ad them on her talking about michelle being a man and had a sex change, that stupid. look they need to expose the ads put ut there because a lot of people says, a lot of people used them, the things put out by i think they need to let he ads be out there and make their own decision. host: issie lapowsky. guest: yeah, i think you're ads and content prgan propaganda groups putting out there were bringing out the worst in us. would choose issue, refugees or black lives matter nd set up pages that took the most extreme view on both of
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those issues and then they would to fight with le each other. that is why people have said they and again that maybe had the intention of trying to their onald trump, but main goal was to sew ivisiveness in the american electorate to breed distrust in each other, frankly. feel it has cebook its arms around how many ads ande were that were created paid for outside the united tates and were spread on their social media platform and does congress have access to all the this point? guest: facebook turned over the idea of as fairly good how many ads were purchased on facebook and instagram. have been more cagey about, how many people exposed to the ads and how many people the accounts. emember, the research agency, propaganda group, purchased ads
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much broader part of strategy facebook account or create facebook page, phony accounts, phony pages, they had followers. and so just recently i realized out facebook had never come and said how many followers the ussian instagram accounts had and they still haven't. they say they have not run those numbers my last reporting. i think there is a lot we're going to continue to find out people were ply enmeshed in all of this propaganda. host: last call, michigan, republican, go ahead. caller: yes. just decided almost hilarious how it was democrats in charge everything during the election, so security of the internet and stuff, they were in charge of. they were fine with all that was going on as long as hillary was winning. once hillary started to lose and now they lost, they are all it seems change. host: issie lapowsky.
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the final minute or so. the guest: sure. would say, it wasn't until last fall that facebook really had sold ads hey twitter e and acknowledged it, too, and many other tech companies, this was during the obama administration, you are right, valley ng time silicon had been the darlings of the business world, they were not they were still seen as innovative ntrepreneurs, start-ups that scaled so fast and i think the public perception of companies turned quite sharply in part because of the fact they really much of thes on for 2016 election about how their being manipulated and insisted after the election think pretty crazy to fake news had anything to do with election results, now i coming to terms with the role they play, the power they have, but it might be
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late.tle too host: issie lapowsky, senior writer with wired magazine, find issie twitter at lapowsky. always appreciate your time. guest: thank you. host: coming up next, the house comes in at 10:00, but until then, it will be open phones on "washington journal." any public policy issue you want to talk about, the phone numbers are on the screen now. calling in. we'll be right back. >> sunday on c-span's q&a, yale amy chua talks about her book "political tribes." >> my book calls for overcoming political tribalism. e need to talk as americans again and not say, you are the evil ones. it used to be people on the political of the divide were people we disagreed with. now it is almost like the people voted for the other immoral enemies,
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they are not even real americans anymore. study really i democracy around the world, mean, like libya, i libya, what is difference between libya and the united states? ethnic country, too. 140 different people. it is a failed state. it is dissent grated, why? t doesn't have overarching strong libyan identity, strong enough to hold the country colonial it was construction, but we do. us special. makes >> q&a sunday night on c-span. l security. >> c-span, where history unfolds daily. 1979, c-span was created as a ublic service by america's cable television companies and today we continue to bring you coverage of congress, the white house, the supreme
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on the s office is scene, additional information to follow. snyder says troopers were responding on tuesday, he does additional details for the baltimore sun. arents report to leonardtown high school. if there is more news about what happened at great mills high we'll certainly bring you up to date. a tweet from the governor of this nd, larry hogan, morning, we're on closely monitoring the situation at reat mills high school, they are in touch with local law enforcement, our prayer are with students, school personnel and 1st responders. nother story out of texas this morning, investigators are still trying to determine if an fedosion early tuesday at a ex facility outside of san connected to four explosions that rattled off in texas. schertz, texas,
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southwest of austin. one suffered injury when is exploded at the ground sorting facility there, spokesperson said no injuries were reported earlier. that is where we are on that. want to hear from you about what stories you want to talk phone segment.en wyatt in alabama, a republican, go ahead. caller: yes, sir, i wanted to go back to what you were talking show earlier in the t.v. segment about influencing the election. why i was going to ask is russia'sat it is always fault for influencing the election, after american people t.v., they're able to make a decision based off policy the candidates say themselves. basically degrading my opinion, it is saying the american people to't have enough discernment
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see kan candidates and make a decision for themselves. i want to say. host: in newark, new jersey, an independent, go ahead. yes, i'm career war years old.m 82 size ofrea is about the south carolina. when itery hypocritical comes to our policies and is.gs, the united states we are condemning north korea money on theirre military than they do on their eep and he will their people are starving. the united states is not nearly north korea and we do money e thing. we spend on military, on our gdp, for the military is high. and we have people sleeping in the streets.
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sleeping in the streets. that's one point. we condemn int is, germany for hunting down jews nd other people in their country and making them go to churches and everything to hide same thing with refugee necessary our country. the ice organization out on these people and these people anything, but try to live and we run them underground down just like the gazstopo did. host: what do you feel about the president sitting down with kim jong-un? good idea d idea, when both do the same thing. they both spend money on their people poor have and sleeping in the street and sleeping on park benches, that's
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bad.l, that's we don't have to do that. e got people buying trailers that subject to tornados and earthquakes and everything, when they should be houses hing stable because they can't afford a stable house. host: barbara in massachusetts, a democrat. ahead. caller: good morning. my name is barbara plesser, the of ronald plesser, a washington lawyer lobbyist who three decades from the '70s to 2004 when he died on of the federal privacy laws and i would like to suggest upcoming program to help understand these issues by having segments on "washington journal," where you the people that know the whole arc of the history. jerry burman, from the center of technology, nonprofit group that monitored all the issues and worked with the senators and congressmen to
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the laws. so the -- i would start it with he actual testing of the privacy act itself and go on to ron worked on the amendments to but have one t, guest who is lawyer lobbyist and a tech person on the other chair explain what was happening technologically that the laws response to. before i hangup, what is e-mail address we use to submit ideas programming to c-span? thank you. host: barbara, i'll get the to make dress, want sure you get the right one for "washington journal" appreciate, i always your recommendations for future segments. have my producer get that for you. bob is in sonora, california, go for republicans, bob, ahead. caller: hi, thank you. thank you and good morning. really appreciate your programming here.
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sure the american eople are into focus on these upcoming talks with the north koreans tis very, very important. is i'm hopefully thinking spend billions of dollars on the emz, we have between 25 and troops there. and if agreement could be made we could extract troops out it would have significant effect on our budget think mr. trump, what he has in mind is that the savings could accomplish there, finance the wall. you never know what is on his mind and i continuing is going to be very
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good things can happen with this north korean negotiations. i have to say. host: bob, thanks for the call. y producer was able to get in contact with the last caller. for everyone who wants to submit segments, future thenal at c-span dot org is e-mail address the caller was asking for. one more update for the vieweros school shooting that happened in maryland, this from minority whip in the house and also a member from that area.om i'm closely monitoring reports mills incident at great high school, my prayers with parents. teachers and please follow instructions from people responding to the scene the minority whip sent out this morning. we'll see if there is additional before the program ends at 10:00. the house is in at 10:00, we'll
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there for live gavel to gavel coverage. good morning. morning, c-span. it is a tragedy what is going on ith all these school shootings and stuff. listen to the call you had earlier speaking about suggestions. suggestion for you guys. if you could actually do a egment on the senior executive -- ices, like who they are if you can do a seg oment that, teach the american eople about them, maybe get a better understanding who and what is running our government. ost: the /* appreciate the suggestion. go ahead. caller: good morning. i want to push back a little bit
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against the narrative i seem to be hearing among republican callers garnering false quivalency between the obama campaign digital efforts and the trump campaign's efforts we've with alking about cambridge analytica and the russians. least right now, they appear to be qualitatively different. think they used analytics and data they gathered online, which is fine f. all the trump that, we ad done was wouldn't be having this conversation, but it certainly campaign took mp it a step further, or several listing the and .ide of russian actors
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i want to push back against the equivalency they are making. host: more calls in "washington journal." east about 9:45 on the coast on this tuesday, march 20th. is exactly six months to the ay since hurricane maria made landfall in puerto rico and to talk about the recovery efforts bring in davidwe ferris now, reporter with nvironment energy news here in d.c., just back from a trip to puerto rico. thanks for joining us. what did you see on your trip? puerto rico ans are without -- >> guest: this is my second trip, early october, just after the hurricane hit. ompared to then, things are quite a bit better. biggest f san juan,
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population center and around the population centers of the electricity isw, heartbeat of modern life and so of those communities, things have returned to of normal. a lot of people are back at are open, roads are open, the main recovery 7% of electricity ustomers which represent still several hundred thousand people in the mountainous areas and the oast where the eye of the hurricane came through and where there's still extensive damage distribution and that is painstaking process that is being -- whether ecovery being led by u.s. army corps, by crews who are visiting and helping mainland united and from puerto rico's own power company.
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point, is there an estimate on total recovery cost? 1.9 billionre's been allocated and army corps, which charge says that there is is - that it is budgeting not impediment to its work, is what they are saying. no indication that addition al additional apropriations to get next level. however, army corps has said continue going to it's presence on the island until going - unclear what is to happen in the last 5% and everyone says the last 5% is the hardest, it is the places where he grid is most messed up and you know, tilling and different work to do. that point, yes?
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is there long-term funding that is needed here and we're am an omnibus spending bill. guest: to be honest, i haven't following what has been going on in congress because i've been in the field doing my work. haven't been following what is going on at d.c. you to answer the question, consent, the ow government requested 17 billion, hat is money to actually completely redesign and transform the electric grid in uerto rico into something better able to survive hurricanes. host: we should note david reporter with environment and energy news has been in puerto rico posting puertoof his trip around at on his twitter page davidferriseenewsupdates if you
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work.o check out their david ferris, you have written a puerto rico energy commission, what is that and rights it being disbanded now? guest: the government is under opposite party from the party energy ated the commission, just a few years ago. in power, party now arty of the governor wants to basically eliminate the current energy commission and replace it of their own choosing. and that is the interesting time do that because right now monopoly energy company is about privatized and no
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effective regulator in place to lives of puerto ricans are being respected and rates go down. it raises risk something could go wrong during this historic privatization. the u.s. congress have any oversight of that move issues?f the guest: i think congress has oversight if it gets creative chooses to have oversight. there is also the matter of the rican oversight board, puerto rico nage $70 billion debt, they are also the driver's e seat in managing privatization. is -- has requested some reports of corruption and other power iencies by the company in puerto rico. to be congress
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could play role if it chooses to. ferris, e&e news. appreciate the time this morning. guest: glad to be here, john. host: back to open phones and so before nutes or the house is scheduled to come in, let us know what public to talk sues you want about. democrats, 202-748-8000. 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. been waiting in las cruces new mexico. to -- trump for and ng firm with politics against kim jong-un. kim jong-un is just an idiot, kay, their country is messed up, not communists, they are military-first kind of country,
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cult, they have gone so far off the left spectrum, like china, vietnam. you see those countries, they succeeding, vietnam has fourth largest military, i think in the world. china is up there capitalism and socialism. north korea so far off the chart donald trump, i supported him and he was tested. was tested by the devil and he stand firm and he didn't back down and now kim jong-un wants which i ith him, commend and i think that is good, should have open dialogue. ost: eugene in tuscaloosa, alabama, an independent. go ahead. c-span. thank you, i want to speak on something about the collusion. and president trump said he didn't know anything about the meeting his son and them had. and look at the rally speech he had a couple days before the meeting supposed place, he said, out of his mouth at a rally, there was
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they to be information were going to get on clinton campaign that was going to be and very important. so that let's you know he knew about the meeting. again.ou host: on the russia investigation, a story in today's "new york times," legal team was's poised for a shake-up on monday, according to two people briefed matter, he openly discussed firing one of his another considered joined thend a third roster. mr. trump -- close associates dismiss his lawyer ty cooperate anted to with special counsel robert mueller. contemplating leaving the post, he concluded e has no control over the behavior of the president. joseph dejunova, fox news, that
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the f.b.i. and justice department manufactured evidence mr. trump. maggie haberman with that story "new york times" today. frank is in pennsylvania, line for democrats, go ahead. yes, i wouldn't be a bit surprised if they didn't find donald trump is responsible for blowing up his own doggone buildings. son and his his son-in-law and his daughter and else, this man is al cap , but a gigantic one, get rid of him, the sooner the better. to listen to raid black folks, want to talk about bama, obama, obama, how detrimental obama was for this country, him and the rest of them. that was the best thing that happen to this country. god bless, bye. host: to mary in cincinnati, republican. go ahead. caller: yeah.
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try to get it across that the out there newspapers have got to stop the sensationalism. have to report. be taught tional to right, do good to one another, that necessity. it's on sunday with amy chung, i really got to hear that, think it is at 9:00. host: mary, how do you pick to cover and g which bad thing not to cover? caller: don't cover any bad things, you know, what you could o is put it in a pretend newspaper. host: what about a bad thing like what is going on right now the bombings in texas and a
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shooting at a high school in maryland, should those things be covered? it in you should put pretend and eventually will get understandand you'll how to run this right. host: okay. kansas, line for independents. go ahead. caller: yeah, hi. terrified of this idea we're going to have a meeting between kim jong-un and trump.ent i mean, that is like trying to old boys to ar negotiate who is getting the other's lunch money. you. host: couple minutes left before in, want to let you know about a few events we'll be covering today and days. 10:00 a.m., on c-span 3, we'll hearings, the featuring education secretary, on education department budget, that is efore the house appropriations
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subcommittee and later this week, c-span will be covering rally ch for our lives against mass shooting, that rally taking place around the the ry, we'll be covering rally here in d.c., our coverage on ns at noon eastern c-span, also c-span.org, listen radio app. c-span vera in cypress, texas, a democrat. good morning. caller: good morning. want to comments on the bombings in the boston and texas area. because the real -- to stay in t trump office. he has russian intelligence eople to come in, they were allowed to come into the country and discovered after they left had been here. it wouldn't be -- the f.b.i. should really consider is there for this person to be skilled person doing these
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you know and i don't see trump making the statement that.eting about that is something that could be a possibility. people may think it is a conspiracy. vera, we'll let the investigation continue into the bombings in texas, we don't want to get ahead of the investigation in terms of motive, haven't seen any on anything to that effect. carol is in ashton, west independent, go ahead. funny i just find it pitted have been being against each other and it don't -- we have been pitted against each other for ears, they do it every time
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they go into an election. and it is up to the american educate themselves, we don't need politicians educating us. educate ourselves and if you see something online or for ver, check it out yourself. you don't need to -- just social media, n it is the gospel. educate yourself. depend on anybody else to educate you. independent, you carol? why are you an independent? both parties e speak with forked tongues, tell you whatever they want you to get in to il they office. and then you start watching heir voting records, start watching how they change their -- their tunes. thomas in ight, aurora, illinois, also an independent. morning. caller: good morning. thomas in illinois and, you
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know, if they succeed in firing mueller, bob mueller should run for president in 2020 and be the unitedesident of states because that is what this country needs. kuncountry needs bob mueller and james comey to be president and vice president and that put comey in the white house for 16 years if he won four-year elections and mueller in for eight years, they could whole mess out in all the agencies. thank you. montana, republican, go ahead. caller: yes, thank you. ill that exists in this country that is causing so and mainly boys, i don't know of a woman that shot has to do people up, with the break-down of the family. has to do with the removal of man, the father, out of the family. started with the woman's
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you guys would research or look up some and have the subject of one of your programs, you will ee that it started with the woman's movement. hat the mother is not designed to bring up little boys and have they should be and -- talks about ental illness and this issue, it ain't about guns, it is about having the wrong mind set. patrick, the house gavelled in for the day, take for gavel to-to gavel coverage and see you back here tomorrow morning on the "washington journal." use ojanuary 01, the air wil nowecognize membfromists suitted by the jority a minority lears f mning hour debate. the cir will ternate ecogtion beten the rtie all timshall bequay allocedetwe thearties d ino ev shall debate contin pt 11:50 a.
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