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event. this event is about the effect of the inter-korea summit last friday. april 27, the south korean president and north korean leader held the first summit since 2007. the declaration is an historic low cord. establishing als permanent and solid piece regime , and a nuclear free peninsula. no one could deny this is a major positive development considering nearly a few months ago the korean peninsula was viewed as on the brink of armed conflict. plenty of questions and skepticism among experts related to the path moving forward. genuine, or is

this a purely tactical move. will south korea be so eager to pursue reconciliation that president moon will be willing to use his political capital to die fuse criticism. china has claimed to be instrumental in cultivating the dialogue. will china be sidelined and be a bystander? will president trump meet with kim jong-un given the wishes expressed by south and north korea? these are no easy questions. three delighted to have experts from south korea, china and the united states to enlighten us on how we should interpret the outcomes of the summit from each country's

perspective. today, the associate -- university. including presidential commission policy, and the national security council. china, ahe doctor from professor of international politics. advisory roles to the chinese government. last but not least, mr. keith bluetooth of the national committee of north korea. keith has been our teacher and

needs no introduction. he has had a distinguished career serving as the senior advisor. policy today we are going to ask dr. make a mr. lewis to 10-15 minute presentation. then we will open it up to discussion. >> ok. ok. thank you. thank you very much. here toileged to be

speak about the situation. as you see on the screen, south korean security environments are not really optimistic. we are surrounded by a few great powers, plus one. you know what i mean. north korea. you can see the leaders. and those five guys. which is not the name of the restaurant, which is delicious. it is really scary for us. also before the two koreas summit, you can see kim jong's face and trump's face.

kim jong-un is kind of an image of a burglar. and then of course trump, who is firing theory. then we have a summit. and then south koreans perception to kim jong-un, i can say, has been changed. how handsome he is, how nice. and then also you can see president trump is smiling. this is psychological, maybe in the situation of south korea. as you witness north korea recently had several nuclear missile tests.

north korea on september 9, they argue that it is kind of a hydrogen. and then in two years more than three missile launches, they practiced. in the situation, the military complex is quite likely.

and maybe we can figure out why north korea would -- go nuclear. north korea was enjoyed the superiority and mission capabilities, including military and economy. maybe they can say it political assault or ideas. however from 1980 on there is a balance between the south and north korea was changed. obviously after the collapse of the soviet union and the eastern european bloc they have become way more isolated. so confronting this kind of -- north korea made the big decision to go forward with nuclear. it's a kind of long story. another reason is to secure the survival of the regime. and also the strength and

military balance against the south. also to deny the policies and regime change. north korea was tenacious and building their military capabilities and also launched the icbm over the united states. however it has certainly changed. this compares to korea and also how hard i worked.

please pardon me. she said only 10 minutes. korean relations at the plant, it is a heavily fortified country. within 100 miles there are 2 million armies. this is the history of north korea's supplication and development. this is the three generations of leaders. north korea's political economy system, and how it works. developingg-un nuclear weapons. picture of kind of

south korea. 2012. north korea for the first time, they bombard. returned.korean army this is how terrible the south korean situation is. but bombardments on all sides. let me skip this. south korean policies, let me introduce those policies. the conservative president always pursues a kind of peace and stability.

when people look at it, there are policies. make them observe. north korea was hostile to this kind. when the government change the policy aggression, and they paid special attention to observation. line of moonasic they have ally kinds of ideas in korea about north korea's change.

is collapse.ea the other thing is neglect. is -- the sunshine policy as you , theoned, as you know government belongs to the pursuing of peaceful ways and the realistic solutions. conservatives,an ,nd people in washington dc moon jae-in inherited it.

isan say moon jae-in different from them even though they embraced the idea. pace.ried to keep this is very different. attention toial the alliance. i am one of the persons who make this campaign into policies. i was one of the three members. i can confidently say his policies are different from the past. ok. then why north korea changed. first one, diplomatic isolation.

sanctions evene though some conservatives and some members of resistance groups don't believe china really seriously joined in the sanctions. china was quite serious as far as i understand with sanctions. pressure.tremendous the economic hardship perspective. third, this is another factor we have to think about. in rulingonfidence

north korea. and also, the moon jae-in government. between northgap korea and the united states, and the south korean people. opportunitiesnew for south korea. we have a strong sense of urgency to denuclearize north korea. and north korea's nuclear development. united states pays more attention to the denuclearization. president trump is working on that. we can say it was also a trump factor.

the negotiations, it is difficult to induce north korea into the negotiation table. it certainly works. many of my friends did not want to listen. trump is something different. is the truth. kim jong-un seems to have a dramatic change possible. see the outcome of summit.rea of the u.s.

introduce the policies. so, let me skip. if somebody wants this, i can provide it later. so. >> ok. thank you. more.e 20 seconds thank you. parts in three main the north korea summit. improvementdramatic and development of the relationship between north and south korea.

the second party, the removal of the measures. ok. -- we have to pay north korea's changing arguments , or announcement. they changed it to a little bit different. this is important. the tacticsmay take met president clinton.

so, we carefully watch over -- they are changing vocabularies. i do not think it is a mistake. they are showing their tactics. the one thing i pay attention to. perpetual peace regime. there is a regular summit they promised. the next summit will be in here. there are similar measures to reduce the confidence building. have ahree main parts variation.

so, many specialists here point out there are no big changes. position between south korea and north korea. a considerable level of trust between these leaders, since -- seems to be established. talks through the exchanges. a certain to have confidence this moment some may be quite serious. withe in negotiation president trump. anticipate something

positive afterwords. .his is their sense we are not sure because we have not seen the outcomes. this is the decision. the north korean leader hopes to shift to economic development thethe completion of military and the economy. on third one is confidence domestic probabilities with south korea. are focusingt they on how to improve between the south and north korea. the main focus is to build a

better relationship with south korea. is -- he triede over for the left north korea summit. south korean government, particularly president moon credit tonts to give president trump. we didn't have any detail guidelines or policies about denuclearization. just basic principles and may be policy directions. over forerything left the u.s. north korea summit. , maybe better than we anticipate. this is there one thing.

to playrea hopes china limited roles. ,aybe for the end of this case but not for the peace treaty. this is a kind of implication. most will have that in mind. kim looks for the compromise of the path. giving up nuclear capabilities. jong-un, he hopes to get the capabilities in the past. and throughout this summit, kim

aims for the changing images. korea.t in south also in diplomatic space between the united states and china. you have imagined how they between the soviet union and china. this is the idea in the future. that diplomatic space. >> as you prepare. >> thank you. ok. for denuclearization, time is limited.

, that muchh korea more progressive. not because of their difficulties. we have to utilize the moment. detailmake sure how in the denuclearization measures are. we need to coordinate policies. our goals and strategies, to push the pressure until they give up nuclear weapons. utilizingnorth korea, the differences between countries and great powers. and the trump can the summit, the weather.

degree and to what how fast to denuclearize north korea. and in turn, how to ensure cam that security of north korea is the most important thing on the agenda. a threato pursue reduction approach. to proceed with reasonable peace building. buthould not divide unified. this is the dream. eitherorea may choose nuclear armament or a stronger alliance. we have to think about them with

an optimistic idea and positive for thebut also prepare worst as well. thank you very much. [applause] >> thank you. to thea good lead up great powers. let's talk about china's role. >> good afternoon everyone. to join dr. kim and thanking the center for this opportunity of exchanging views today. seen aanuary we have series of fast moving diplomatic moves which led to the summit and a joint declaration friday. always, different analysts

have different assessments of the same developments. dr. kim and i are longtime friends. that does not mean we always agree with each other. i myself believe something significant is going on. development exactly what see, aas hope to softening of positions of all problemsd to solve the through dialogue and diplomatic means. alwaysean peninsula is

full of dramatic events. after crazy nuclear testing in sanctions, kim with a kicked off a year new year suggesting the completion of his nuclear deterrent. at the same time he expressed participating could be held in south korea. as always the case, developments on the peninsula, like the as aics, it was used vehicle to reopen diplomatic

talks. to a flurry of high-stakes diplomacy in the region. the south korean envoys were to kim jong-un himself. they came back with startling messages for a summit in april, and the offer for a kim tromp summit. kim and trump excepted the author. to meet with kim jong-un. in these interactions china seemed not to be dishonorable. worriesrked a flurry of that china might have been sidelined.

this was disproved when kim jong-un decided to pay a visit to beijing, his first ever journey as the north korean to marchom march 25 28. , the summit was a surprise meeting as it was arranged hastily and announced only after the visit was completed. was this came from pyongyang. overs kim that wanted it, to visit of refusing china. the exchange -- excuse was an easy one.

he thought he should congratulate his reelection face-to-face. chinaisit happened after sessions which renewed his tenure. wentisit's implications far beyond that. summitened before the and the kim tromp summit. the timing spoke for itself. the visit raised the questions about what the cam hoped to accomplish with this latest of diplomacyrst after years of provocative threats.

the visit highlighted china's key role on the korean peninsula and demonstrated it could by no means be bypassed. kim jong-un met the chinese leader, a major development. early on relations between the two have become increasingly strained. in needed beijing's help emerging from international sanctions in his isolation. he might every allies t could not survive a sustained economic squeeze. both sides have once again flinched to support -- pledge to support the development between china and north korea.

after unusually bad relations between the two countries, the summit represented a breakthrough in relations. silent onress stayed the nuclear issue. of thef eight pages workers party newspaper were dedicated to the summit. privately he might not harbor friendly feelings towards each oner their meeting was based solid utility. kim had something to show. summits.e

xi could not be marginalized. between north and south korea the exchange of a performance which warmed up in february and march. the same happened between the north and china. , chinahe beijing visit sent a high profile group to performancesducted there. hastily arranged, the group was international liaison department. this was unprecedented. it highlighted the political performers for the

to breathe a warm atmosphere, as if nothing unpleasant had ever happened. signaling something important what happened, on april 20, north korea convened the workers from session and announced april 21 onward it would terminate nuclear and missile tests and close off nuclear testing where the north nuclear tests were conducted. messages kim jong-un to his people

include first, kim delivered the keynote speech to educate the north korean people the time had come to rethink their nuclear status. north koreans have made significant sacrifices to develop their nuclear weapons and believe they are there treasured sword that could never be placed on the negotiating table. the north korean leader needed to mobilize support for such a big change in such a short time. based on kim speech, they adopted resolutions claiming a great victory of the party. simultaneous economic construction.

in other words, north korea will single-mindedly concentrate efforts on economic construction. third, the meeting decided to nuclearions to suspend and missile tests from april 21. and close facilities. in fact, the demand that freezing the nuclear missile byts should be reciprocated koreaension of u.s. south joint military exercise.

it seems kim jong-un has made a changeecision, to course. i understand many people in this town are skeptical of the recent developments. i believe they have reasons to be suspicious. i tend to believe something very significant is happening, and it is -- people often ask whether north korea will give up nuclear weapons or not. is an interactive process. depending on how the outside

jong-un.ls with kim dependn interaction will moves made inside north korea and outside north korea. there are three things we should follow closely. three major developments, in my view. summit that, kim in june.eld probably , it will be a historic development between the u.s. and dprk. president xi jinping of china

will visit north korea. the kim trump summit. and third president moon jae-in will visit north korea this fall. theseill come out of summits, we will see. that these are important developments to happen. thank you. >> i'm sure we have questions but please hold for another presentation. please enlighten us with the u.s. plans to do now. >> thank you for the privilege of being here, thank you to my colleagues for your excellent presentations. my comments are my own rather than behalf of the national committee on north korea.

recent events including north korea's participation in the olympics and the moon kim summit are extraordinary. the summit would be remarkable given tensions between north korea and the united states during the decades since the signing of the armistice. the war continues. understanding the summit was the beginning, a groundwork for the future. there are six initial points of significance that come to my mind. a central question, whether the public objects associated reflect a paradigm shift in the mind of kim jong-un regarding his country's nuclear program. what are the respected xi jinping? of

how do the programs fit into the overall makes? what about short and medium range missiles. leader kim and president trump in particular share a common operating style which embodies a for audacity and bold gestures. it is consistent with his approach to north korea as part of the administration. jinpingear president xi has directed china's increasing enforcement of sanctions targeting north korea. president trump's approach has been unconventional in comparison. the president brought his ceo

skills to the oval office. facing a crisis the president has been utilizing resources within and without the administration. his intensity in pursuing a byolution is matched president moon's commitment to engagement with the north. both of these dynamics exist with possessing the capability of hidden united states -- hitting the united states with a nuclear tipped missile. until they truly understand the seriousness of which the trouble administration and the congress view this capability there is the possibility of a miscalculation on their part during the implementation phase of any agreement which couldn't resist -- result in military action targeting north korea.

then there are issues on the u.s. side related to a possible agreement with north korea. there will be officials in the trump administration as in past administration's. some appointed. others are part of bureaucracy that consider the settlement a fantasy, a stretched too far. may be toination erode implementation of a policy reflecting engagement with north korea bedding and time there will be a collapse of north korea's regime. consequently in the event president trump and leader can reach any agreement, their respective willingness to implement details may determine whether the korean war resumes. secretary pompeo, who has invested heavily on president trump's behalf, may be distracted by other world events.

unless the administration appoints a full-time official to oversee and limitation of any wouldent by all sides who also serve as the envoy to the congress, to the number of countries involved, the post summit performance of the trump administration may falter. the administration's maximum pressure strategy combined with the president's unpredictability have been primary drivers contributing to the active role in the overall process and north korea's willingness to engage. leader kim jong-un exudes a greater level of national confidence in his engagement as a result of his icbm capability and other resources on the part of north korea. benefited from inconsistent u.s. policies

resulting from changes in the administration and mixed signals for policy conflicts. jong-un-il and kim became adept at calibrating north korean provocations and u.s. reactions. theese officials discerned degree and man are with which they needed to admonish north to then response temperature level in the united states executive branch and congress. it became clear while china had a six party process, the focus on regional stability versus north korea denuclearization contributed to a chinese emphasis on managing the north korea issue rather than the issue as preferred by the u.s.. those days on history. the trump administration will ratchet up the maximum pressure strategy if necessary to elicit

positive north korean behavior. chinese cooperation and thetions enforcement, acquiescence of pressure will have its limits. unfortunate casualties of the overall north korean sanctions regime may be those north korean citizens suffering from disease and severe hardship. example, the global fund terminated its north korea related tb and malaria projects. this occurred despite reports of grant performance projects showing these projects to have met or exceeded program requirements since 2010. shuttering the operation on the part of the global fund will contribute to an epidemic of tb in north korea which may spread into south korea and china. humanitarian experts project the cases of tb, and 5000 new cases

resistantrug tuberculosis on an annual basis. with the global fund pull out some of the u.s. executive branch sanctions and other pressures on u.s. humanitarian ngos, along with congressional you and sanctions, a major humanitarian prices -- crisis is stirring with implications for people of china north korea and south korea. in conclusion nothing will surprise me regarding the outcome of u.s. north korean negotiations and a possible trump kim summit. more than any other time since 1953 negotiations may result in an agreement and possible achieved in past u.s. administrations. unconventional american leader, president trump knows history will judge him to a degree by his handling of the

north korea situation. is north korean counterpart unconventional. one being the allowance of the operation of hundreds of markets and development of north korean entrepreneurs. beyondre issues myuclearization including in issues from the korean war, human rights, and unit -- reunification of families. unless the u.s. and north korean leaders are mutually diligent and implementation of future agreements will be off course with unfortunate consequences. thank you. [applause] >> a think -- thanks to our speakers. for each of the

speakers. for dr. kim, president moon has been talking about improvement of relations with south korea. there are references to economic cooperation. seeour view du for see this this -- do you see this to impact the future? we know that there is news about the chinese foreign minister visiting north korea in today's. -- in two days. he is rumored to be in north president xiuss jinping's upcoming visit to north korea in june. could you tell us more about this upcoming visit, what is the significance? that hekeith, we know

advocated for a gradual step-by-step approach to the denuclearization issue and it fell apart. factors would give us confidence the north korean leader this time will give us ?ope about their commitment thank you. >> ok. summit,ocuments of the the nation paid special attention to the north and south economy. however, south korean government is very cautious implementing the economic corporation because

of the international sanctions and solidarity with the international society. this is different from what we , you have a different of the moon jae-in government thinking. to they respect solidarity and will be courses. that is why the government showed kim jong-un on the bridge . plan.rean economic we prepared a lot how to support ,orth korea and what we can do

basically we have eight types of economic plans. there is the economic cooperation based off of the plan. we explained that to kim jong-un. on u.s. north korea summit. there is something good to trump. , andump made good summit we have a great plan to support north korea economically with

the international society, this is the plan. .'m not going to be surprised the south korean government sooner or government would launch support for north korea. but greater approaches while keeping pace with the international society. >> they are big tariffs but not immediately. >> we have big tariffs. we are willing to. but you have to do what you need , first, to do. this is there clear message. xi's visit to north korea? >> the announcement of the upcoming visit, he got promoted

and became state counselor and foreign minister. the announcement of his visit is another example of the quickening of diplomatic efforts in the region by the different parties. one of his missions is to make preparations for president xi jinping's visit later this year. these indicate china wants to see the opportunity. the momentum to push forward the

process of resolving the nuclear problem through diplomatic and peaceful means. i think china believes we have the opportunity. the parties should seize the opportunity. to push forward the process. so it should be interesting to watch what will happen out of these visits. thank you. >> thank you. >> a key difference between now and the time when agreements were reached, north korea's missile capability, hitting the united states.

this has the attention of president trump as it would president hillary clinton or anyone else in the white house. analysts, security have indicated that if north korea reached that capability that would be a red line and , needed to be dealt with. this requires the president to be focused on this issue in terms of north korea. i believe president trump will continue to be focused on north korea. i believe he will continue to consult with south korea, china, russia, japan, but i believe this new capability will very much make the difference. >> thank you. thank you for your answers. we will open the floor to q&a.

please identify yourself and try not to make a long statement. just ask questions, please. yes sir. >> thank you. just present a quick scenario. the talks between trump and cam -- and kim breakdown over denuclearization. kim asks for the removal of u.s. troops. which has been north korea's past position. the talks break down, kim turns around and says to xi jinping i tried my best, i made a serious peace offer, and the americans have continued their policy. how can you continue sanctions on my country in these

circumstances when i tried? how would china in your opinion, how would china respond to that? that is a question for the doctor please. i think china deserves credit for its long-standing efforts to try to bring together different parties and find a way out for the past 20 years. donald trump is saying that he deserves virtually all of the credit for the recent developments. let's say 50-50. [laughter] china has been trying hard to

induce north korean leadership to change and open up their society. we tried very hard with some limited successes. it has been difficult as well. and eventual resolution requires different parties to make their respective efforts. on the u.s. side you have a lot to offer to north korea.

as long as they promise to denuclearize. i think china has many things to offer. south korea has many things to offer, u.s. has many things to offer. gets many things in return for denuclearization. it economic assistance, security guarantee, diplomatic normalization, and so forth. these are things they cannot get. the issue is that they have to denuclearize.

i think the outside world should work together to encourage and induce them to move in that direction. that is what we should study carefully, what we should do. >> you first. koreans have a kind of dna , integration. we are always very sensitive. if china is too much, we are willing to fight back.

we still want to have a cooperative relationship. china is huge. if we understand the history and the blood of koreans, i don't think north korea will ask the united states and south korea to withdraw. if the relationship between the united states and north korea is hostile, they are going to ask to with draw. if they think the relationship is good, the united states presence in south korea is going to be a great card for north korea to deal with china and united states. up, i want to add simply, before north korea take denuclearize, assuming

that north korea has suspended its missile activities, will china lift sanctions? >> i think to encourage them to move in the direction of denuclearization there are some china can do. kim jong-un has announced that they have suspended the missile launch a nuclear tests. -- and nuclear tests. i think china can do something bilaterally. say something like, you are correct in doing so.

we explicitly do some things to change those essential measures to some extent. so, i think the united states can do similar things. to encourage that direction of denuclearization. in the next summit i think -- we should go back to september 19 agreement, which was reached in 2005.

this remains a good deal in which different parties commit themselves to various steps in language of action for action, word for word. this should be inherited for the parties to move ahead in the next months. >> great. collects -- this is a question for any of the panelists. will you speak to the japanese strategy for involvement? thank you.

>> japanese strategy? >> a very good question. japan has a direct interest in the north korea situation. this has been a primary topic. it seems while some would suggest japan has been sidelined by virtue of the u.s.-north korea dialogue, i do not believe that is the case. prime minister abe is not a shy person. he'll make sure his country's issue are represented. if anything he may view the u.s. - north korea approach as an opportunity for him, to japan to

strike out in terms of what they might be able to come to an agreement on. >> dr. kim? >> i am sorry. [laughter] >> the korean perspective, they are carefully watching trump's policies toward north korea and whether they are going to have agreements. if you look at the japanese history, you can see who, with what country japan allies.

then it can tell you something , in the future longer-term. this is the one thing i want to point out. japan really wanted to have a cooperative relationship with south korea to deter china. japan changed strategies. japan chose to the united states to only contribute in east asia to deter china. china is hostile. japanese fear really is impulsive.

i was in the team of south korea -- japanese showing that they are the only regional great power to china. they try to strengthen their alliance with the united states to show to china how important the japanese are. >> ok. we will move along with questions. >> thank you. this has been a tremendous dialogue we have here. tremendous. doctor, i agree with you, there

is a china factor, and then there is an american factor. without trump's high pressure diplomacy none of this would however, i am happy it is happening. we have an opportunity to go somewhere as asia. however, it is difficult for me to be confident about mr. kim's determination. is he going to give up his nuclear arsenal? because of the past history, we

that none ofdo , this came about. it is difficult for me. he has to understand one thing, now that everybody in the whole world knows who he is, what he has committed to, meaning his back is against the wall. he cannot turn around and say, no. he cannot do that no more because the whole world is going to say, this is the axis of evil. so my question. >> i have a question. you said north korea has changed. do you think change is big enough for north korea? >> another question. >> leah, voice from america.

doctor, you mentioned north korea hopes china will play a limited role. no role in the peace treaty. can you talk about what does -- what role does south korea want china to play in denuclearization of the korean peninsula? what role does china want in this? for thesame question other panelists. >> a list of questions. maybe you'll start with dr. kim. i am told that china is like a -- memory.

>> large and extinct? >> no, no. if it is so energetic, we start worrying because of china for station or what we are afraid of. china played in important role during the crisis of the nuclear issues. china paid attention. we appreciate the role of china. as, i'm sorry i've just forgotten your name, as a chief

nation china did not really , try to resolve the issues. maybe because it is not in china's interests. china tried to maintain stability first and then long-term denuclearization. we are facing different situations. the united states division in their plans, the strategies for the world, and now -- president trump saying, america first. even though trump helps us to what? , next, what kind of provision is he going to provide? more pressure because of the america first policies? what is he going to play? this is what we are worried about. china is growing, this is a reality.

so, we cannot get out the kind of inference from china. china is so huge, to disregard. then what china can play for the world. let's say we cannot see. this is the world in gray. the future of the korean peninsula. we are carefully watching the u.s. strategies, vision. this is the situation we are watching over carefully. this is the situation. >> i think there is a possibility for cvid. as i put it earlier it will be an interactive process.

there is a process for us all to move ahead. there's also a possibility that we cannot fulfill the mission to denuclearize the peninsula. they are different possibilities. together to achieve what we hope to achieve. second, a nuclear-free peninsula is an everybody's interest. so, u.s., china, japan, russia, we should all make efforts.

to bring about a denuclearize korean peninsula. everyone has a role to play. i help the role is a constructive one. the role is a constructive one. >> in answer to your question, i believe the u.s. appreciates the role china has played. it seems that has been focused on managing the situation. we are now at a point where china could be very helpful and we welcome china pots -- china's role. >> we will see if china is up for it. another round of three questions. marvin over here, and brian them. oh, yes, sure. >> marvin, john hopkins wilson

center. 's commento dr. kim about china being in the dna of korea and if north korea and u.s. relations improve, north koreans view the role of the u.s. forces may change. i was going to ask that question and then you anticipated me. can you elaborate on that? specifically can you see this infecting at the center of trump 's negotiations, putting on the table if we can develop a constructive relationship in my view of u.s. forces in korea will be different. >> brian? >> thank you.

brian, voice of america. a two-part question. does this opening up on the previous question, china in the blood of korea, does this opening up of north korea offer an opportunity for north korea to be more independent of china? following that, would a more open or independent north korea the undesirable -- north korea be undesirable anyway for china? >> grace, tokyo broadcasting system. i question for dr. lewis. it is been suspicious there has been little talk about the detainees. it seems like with pompeo's trip, they should have said what do you make of that. my second question, where do you

think the trump-kim summit will be happening and why? >> our panelists, do you want to start? >> on the subject of detainees i would imagine this at the top of the trump administration agenda. >> china is special. it has more authority. >> he is chinese. >> north korea is independent enough.

they've beens, andcating their ideology actors fromhinese their language and so on. they do not want to be told by the major powers what they should do. >> the question is not that north korea will be more dependent on china, more dependent on the u.s. the question is that we need to bring about a different north korea. a changed north korea. a denuclearized north korea.

for that everyone has something , to contribute. thank you. >> chinese is in the korean dna. [laughter] >> it is difficult for the foreigner, especially western people to understand the kind of emotion in the dna and the blood of the korean. china has been a big country. --y countries around china learned from china a lot throughout history. they feel threatened when china .ecame more aggressive so south koreans, they have a

history of a long fight against china. and they maintained their independence. 's.y are certain know how the second point is, one of the korean newspapers had five conditions to give up nuclear weapons suggested by the north korean side, one is the u.s. summit. among the five, there is no suggestions of u.s. armies. many people doubt the reliability, but i fully understand it is quite possible.

if you look at the history of north korean-china relations, there is a period of good relationship. they don't really trust each other, but because of strategic interests, and because there are needs, they have tried to keep close and help each other. if the conditions can change, i show you the evidence. korean foreign minister came to new york at the moment. he made an important speech. if you allow north korea to we willnuclear weapons,

have a special with china. this is kind of like a joke, but it is not. north korea played the game. theh korea knows how to get more from china. they are playing the game. the north koreans lose a very important card. that is why i think north korean would not test north koreans would not to use the card for it depending on the entire activity that you mentioned. depending on the relationship with china and the united states. we are entering very complex games.

we do not know the outcomes. in the past everything is clear. , because of the clear line of the system. now, it is mixed. everything is on the table that president trump says. china can say everything is possible. maybe north korea can also say , we are on the table as well. this is the situation. >> this has been a lively discussion. i am sure everyone has more questions, but feel free to stay on and get answers to the questions. please join me in thanking our panelists. [applause] >> thank you for coming.

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