policy and a potential presidential run in 2020. then we are empty or, south dakota for our next stop on the capitalsource with the state's governor on policy issues facing his estate. -- his state . ♪ host: the senate homeland questions nelson on border security and matters. looking at her performance. that could be part of the questioning. see that for yourself at 2:30 p.m. also entertainers magoo robinson and others in the music industry will testify before the senate judiciary committee regarding federal copyright laws and licensing rules. that hearing will be attended talk a.m. this morning on c-span. president trump speaks today at the 37th annual peace offering -- officers memorial service.

many members of law-enforcement on capitol hill this week to discuss issues related to police work. one of those issues law enforcement has addressed in recent years, the police community relations. in our first hour, we are interested in your thoughts, how you see the police in your local community and if there are ways to improve relations. here is how you can let us know. if you live in the eastern and central time zones, 202-748-8000. if you live in the mountain and pacific time zones 202-748-8001. or you are a police officer member of law-enforcement 202-748-8002. ,you can make your thoughts on police community relations known on our twitter feed at c-span wj, and on our facebook page and om/cspan.cco if you go to the memorial fund, there is a federal tie when it comes to today and in the

honoring of police officers. 1962, president kennedy proclaimed may 15 as national peace officers memorial day. the calendar week in which it falls, the national police week. established by joint resolution in congress in 1962. national police week faced recognition by law enforcement officers who have lost their lives for the safety and protection of others, adding that national police week is a collaborative effort of many organizations dedicated to honoring america's law enforcement community. it goes on about the principal organizers of that. if you go to local stories, you will find that capitals across the u.s., flags at half staff, including the u.s. capitol, to recognize those who lost their lives in the name of police work. the national law enforcement officers memorial fund has a tracking of those officers killed in the line of duty. this is for 2018, the survey

27 --anuary 1 to may 14, of 2018 versus the same time last year, when it comes to 2018 53 total fatalities, 28 of them are firearms related, 17 of those traffic related, and related to other causes, 8. compare that to 2017, total firearmes of 51, related, 18, traffic related, 21, and from other causes, that number is 12. 2017.s comparing 2018 to more statistics will be shown as far as the idea of law enforcement and their work, how it relates to community relations across the united states. we are getting your thoughts always that you see -- on way that you see on those community

relations, and ways they can be improved. call, want to give us a for those in eastern and central time zones, 202-748-8000. those in mountain and pacific 202-748-8001. ,police officers or members of law enforcement 202-748-8002. you can go calling, to our c-span library or c-span.org, there was a recent event featuring law enforcement talking about police community relations featuring the former philadelphia commissioner charles ramsey, last month at the conference of mayors. the topic, police community relations. >> whether we are large, small, medium committee does not matter. it is in our collective best interest to build the trust, that legitimacy. think about it, if you saw something on the news, however bad it might be, and the public is watching it from your town, your city, and people looked

into said, that is terrible, but our cops would never do anything like that. we have a long way to go before that conversation takes place in a lot of our cities, but why t be athat vehicle -- tha b goal? we will be challenged constantly. i guarantee you will be challenged. so that is why having relationships, building trust, legitimacy, we talk about procedural justice and things like that, but we also have to look at internal procedural justice -- how do we treat our own people? we are very punishment given as police organizations. we have rules and regulations. you do this, you get this much time off. you get fired if you do so and so. that is not all bad. we were talking about alternatives to incarceration to juveniles, there is diversion in

its own sense where training could be a remedy in our own department. we have to look at this in a very holistic way if we want to have the right mindset for our officers as they get on the street and interact with the public. host: that event was from last month. other topics discussed in the scope of police community relations, you can see them on our website. we are asking you about that. detroit, michigan, jerry is first up. go ahead. caller: good morning. greetings from motown. ttwwo things i would like to brg up. here in detroit, as you know last year we had the 50th anniversary of the 1967 rebellion. and two things i want to bring up -- first, as far as community and police relations, they have

gotten better. some goodgoing to be white cops, also some bad white cops. and you notice how always they try to rationalize police shootings and everything, especially the racially applesed ones, by making and wedges comparison between racist police violence and black -- black on black crime. if you look at the white ,ollars, they always -- callers they always bring up chicago. host: you have said you see improvements happening, where do you see those happening? caller: probably, you have more officers of color, perhaps more females on the force. i think that where we fall short

is within the court system, because all too often, like with the grand jury decisions across the country, they always favor racist white cops. and always sort of paint the dead victim in a less pain favorable light. -- less than favorable light. host: we will go to new york. caller: good morning. good morning all the staff at c-span, thank you for all the behind the scenes that puts this on everyday . minister is one world life systems. one note, i will be going to court tomorrow with my service dog, having been arrested by the police on cornell university's

campus for distributing a press release. that was because of during a nonviolent peaceful protest on march 19, when senator gillibrand came and spoke about sexual harassment in the workplace. the trouble we are having. the police are only a flagpole on top of a structure in a system that was never inclusive, like the last person said, to give equal justice under law. we do not want to memories in the white flag, or the red flag, they need not raise the jolly roger flag, but what we do need is if there are liberties and justice for all, it must be for all. secondly, the politicians are starting to use the place for everything. for instance, ordering me not to be on the campus because of a peaceful protest.

that lacks due process and first amendment rights. host: what charges are you being brought up on? caller: i was declared, with my service dog, because i live with post-traumatic stress from being raped in the new york seminary, which nothing was done about, i trespass.rought up on it trespass. it is ridiculous, because even in a private foundation, one can go through that private place if the public, your tax dollars, maintain the sidewalks and streets. host: thank you for that. andy in new york, go ahead. caller: hi. i would like to say that you need to talk about the important issues that have occurred

recently. you have to talk about stormy daniels and the hush money paid to her. i asked you to invite her on your program. issue. aske about the and the second question, request, is that you have, congress have, all of you around them, you should impeach the president as soon as possible. host: your thoughts on the police community issue? what are your thoughts to that? caller: the most important issue recently in the u.s. is stormy daniels. host: you made that point, so one more time, anything to say about community relations with police were we will move on -- or we will move on.

we will move on. gaithersburg, maryland. go ahead. caller: i would like to say that community here has been on a mutual sense, but more to that is to say that i miss the old days. back in the day, the police was a community server. they were supposed to serve the community. nowadays, they are more the law enforcer. unfortunately, we have more laws on the books. the more laws on the books, the more criminal they make is to be. i would like to say that to the police, to be more of a community server, better so than a law enforcer. host: if the police are a law enforcement officer, onto they doing their job even though you see the many different light? law in they use the

their favor, in their motives and in their incentives. pretty much, the community is what it is. it is a member of the community. so those needs are not being tended to, then the community will be, what they call that -- a dysfunction. in that sense, they should focus more on the police service, more so than law enforcement. host: robert in maryland. you heard, when we talk about the nature of police community relations, that is what we are interested in hearing from you. as the president will be honoring police today. knownn make your thoughts for the mountain and pacific time zones 202-748-8001.

,for eastern and central 202-748-8000. ,police officers and law enforcement 202-748-8002. ,continuing on with those calls, we will take those momentarily. the president goes to capitol hill today to meet with senate republicans. joining us to talk about the meeting, we have our senior staff writer from rollcall. good morning. >> good to be back. host: what is the nature of the meeting about between the president and senate leaders? >> there have not been many specifics about the agenda for the meeting yet, but what it sounds like is that this will be largely about the nominations crush still remaining. there has been reporting that nominee, willhe certainly be one of the featured topics.

and we are expecting this to be the first of a series of pushes again by donald trump to try to get more of his people confirmed, and maybe put some more pressure on the republicans in the senate to think about either changing the rules or making some sort of other adjustments to try to get around the democrats who have been slowing down any number of nominations. host: when the president goes there today, what case will he make to the senate leaders, how will he press them, you think, ?nd what will be the response >> he will probably make the same arguments he made before. they will make the case that there is an precedented backlog the number of positions that

the majority leader mitch mcconnell has had to file to try to limit debate. some of that is true, some of that is also a result of changed circumstances that we have seen since the democrats changed the rules initially, using the nuclear option to bring down the threshold on most nominations. is, the other thing is there invariably these discussions with president trump at lunch going direction's that may not have been intended. today, one thing we are looking at is whether or not the farm state senators will be once again critical of trade policies . and also whether or not anyone is going to bring up, for the chinesee dte --

telecommunications company, zte, that has faced regulatory action by the congress department that donald trump tweeted over the weekend, that he was hoping the commerce department, the commerce secretary, could resolve. that is the kind of thing where donald trump is probably not aligned necessarily with the position of most senate republicans. is always interesting to see if things will be brought up at lunch or not. host: i was wondering what the reaction has been on the senate side, amongst republicans, to that decision by the president. >> the general response has not been positive. republican senators who reporters have spoken with in the last 24 hours or so, and others on social media in various forms, have been saying that this is not strictly a trade issue. the question is whether or not the company, having cell phone

technology in the united states, is a national security risk because of potential espionage concerns, or who knows what the chinese government may be harvesting. so there is that question. the other thing, just to throw couldr thing in, that send the meeting off course today, mitch mcconnell said in his speech last evening that he had been out to visit john mccain over the weekend at his ranch in arizona. -- the of the things senate is not over the fact that eiaidemp administration who dismissed mccain is being dead already, the senate is not

over that yet. there are hard feelings about that and there are many senators who would've liked to have seen a formal apology, maybe from donald trump himself, and i think that will be something -- if a senator brings that issue up, as probably somebody will, the policy part of the lunch may not be that productive. host: niels liszewski from rollcall, talking about the meeting with president trump leaders.wesenator heard earlier this week that tax reform could be on discussion, a push by the president to talk about it, particularly going into the november election. >> the white house and the h will be toon pitc try to do further taxcutting, maybe make the individual, the

reduced individual rate, which are in current law now, to make them permanent. we have heard that from various officials for the last few weeks . it seems like it is one of the things where the republicans tend to unite, like they did on the tax bill, but the question i think is that there are some senate republicans you are very leery of lengthening the duration of the individual tax cuts, because of the effect on the deficit. host: thank you for your time, as always. back to our discussion on police community relations. police officers being recognized today. capitol hill recommended officers, predicted -- particularly those of us the lives. at the capital and across the united states. the washington post, on their website, they keep current track of people killed, who have been

shot and killed by police in 2018. we will show you the 396 people shot and killed by police in this year. it breaks it down by categories. take a look at race, one at a 52 are white, 72 black, 41 hispanic, 121 unknown, according to police -- according to that database. weapons used in that, 221 knife,d a gun, 66 with a 29 with a vehicle and it goes on from there. you can find that on the washington post website. research, theyw have a poll from last year looking at these issues. one of the categories from the poll asked the question, the majority of police who have fatal black encounters are incidents. the public says it is a bigger

problem. this is the percentile saying that black encounters with officers, amongst officers, 67% saying they are isolated incidents, others saying it is a broader problem. 39% in the public saying they are isolated incidents, and off of twitter this morning, law-enforcement should receive due respect. the compassion missing from many police forces across the country. there are good cops and that cops. we have good ones here. you can talk about what is going on in your area of comparison to that. the caller from cleveland, ohio. you are on. want to say i just that the justice system is a joke. as soon as you take the money out of it, you are going to keep getting the -- justice for a

certain group of people. host: how do you relate that to police community relations? caller: over policing. the police, you put them in a certain area, that is racial profiling to fill the jails because of the money involved. take the money out, you can get pulled over for a simple traffic ticket. you may not be able to pay it. -- now you have a warrant out for your arrest. you go to jail, you are stuck in jail, and they are making money off of you instead of giving you community service. so a minor offense. and in other communities, they have the same problems, but they over police certain communities

and essay that that is because of the people who live in that community. host: we will hear from sheila in virginia. good morning. caller: what i have to say about the police in our area, we do have some bad cops, but i feel that a lot of good ones, they do community service outreach, they work with our kids and a different community activities to try to establish relationships. and trust between the citizens and the police officers. they also do a lot of things like going through training for how to deal with mental health. and when i talk to them about when they make phone calls, i feel that people need to be specific on what they are calling for and the situation of

the person and make it happen much better for the citizens. officers acting just as bad as some of the white officers, so therefore, yes we have a lot of racism also with the officers, but they need to share the opportunity to remove those types of officers. now, we do have some officers that will target our black community every day. but when you go in another community, they do not be out there. it makes you feel that they specifically want to arrest many blacks, as many as they can. host: ok, dexter in maryland. good morning. caller: good morning.

my comment about the police is they are not trusted, liked, we feel like they look at us as the enemy, so we look at them as the enemy. there is no relationship in my community. the ones i have lived in. occupiersat us as when they come in the neighborhoods. ,hey have all hands on deck that is a code word for locking up all the black people they can get at one time. they are filling their quotas. like the lady said, they want to make money. industry, or the criminal justice industry in an industryasically that they use to make money off of what people -- a black people. host: the background noise is a

little intense. again, if you want to give your thoughts on police community relations in your area, you can call for the eastern and essential time zones 202-748-8000. ,mountain and pacific 202-748-8001. ,we also have a line for police officers, if you want to give your perspective on this issue 202-748-8002. wj, on twitter, at c-span and on facebook. here is bruce in florida. caller: yes. in massachusetts, they have a thing called the citizens police academy. and that brings people into work with the police. people get to see what police face also. it is a very good thing that i

attended. and i would love to attend it again when i get back up to massachusetts. it is run by captain russo. you will see what the police have to face every day. host: before you go, what kind of things did you go through during that time at the citizens police academy? caller: they put you through a drunk scenario where the police youwill actually confront as a drunk. a scenario where you are approaching somebody in an abandoned building. drugs, you know, they showed you drugs and stuff like this. it is a very interesting concept and i think that they should follow through on that throughout the country. host: how did you hear about it?

caller: it was in the local paper. host: how many days did it take? caller: one night a week, for i think about six or seven nights. .t was a great concept the police officers were put through what they have to go through -- you know, you good to see what a police officer would have to go through during the day. then you do a ride along with the police. host: ok. bruce calling. we get the perspective of a police officer from silver springs maryland, james. silver spring, maryland, james. caller: my comments, first of all i want to say that just that

there are a lot of good police officers that do a great job and hats off to the men and women who put their lives on the line. however, we really do have to have some systemic police reform, because the way that they are trained, how we are trained to interact with persons of color, minorities, poor people, inner-city people is archaic and it does not serve the community. the thought process that the police are public servants and we have to serve the needs of the community and serve them based on how the community wants to be treated, in many cases most of our communities are over policed. there is too much interaction with the public on a day-to-day basis that is not positive. there is no community engagement, but there is a lot of interaction with the community with the objective to

get that citizen in a position where you can check their background, where you can see what they are doing, see what is in their car. we are slowly becoming a police state and we do not even know it. host: do you do this on a daily basis? ,aller: for toy five years daily basis. ?st: in maryland . work in maryland and i make it a point not to interrupt a citizens day any more than necessary. ,ut quite often, my colleagues we do these things. look, a lot of it is not their fault because a lot of it is their training, how they have been taught. if it gets results, why change it? a lot of times we use sometimes borderline unacceptable -- it

gets results. sometimes it doesn't. host: do you live in the city where you police? caller: no, i do not. day.ve into the city every i can identify with the city i work in, because for the most part i grew up in an urban toter, so i understand how carry myself in urban settings. and i understand what goes on, but quite often we do not necessarily know the community because it is not a community. host: where do you specifically police, washington, dc or silver springs? caller: in the baltimore area. host: you go to baltimore? got you. that is james. the u.s. conference of mayors featuring discussion on police

community relations featured the mayor of the baton rouge area of louisiana. she was talking about the politics of the situation, particularly how political leaders can do their part in improving police committed relations. here is what she had to say. >> the issue that we face as leaders, as mayors and i believe as police chiefs, and that is trying to dismantle this us against them mentality and culture that exists not only in our community, but throughout the united states. and i believe that those of us who are here in this room today can be a part of changing that culture. i know for me as a mayor, and i believe it is the same goal for any police chief in this room, is that we want the best police department that we can absolutely have. and we want to do whatever we

can to make sure that the police and the community become one, but with these caustic narratives that exist -- constant narratives that exist about police reform, that does not mean police rejection. that means all of us have room for improvement. everyone should want a stellar police department that serves their community and builds a great relationship. host: let's hear from robert, baltimore, maryland. the topic of police community relations, go ahead. caller: thank you for allowing me to speak. first of all , our community has seen law-enforcement tick up several notches. , this is always

struck me, whenever an officer -- often times it is not a stable situation, despite a man being unarmed. interestingly enough, white officers and black officers go through the same training, yet you never hear about any black officer shooting somebody white, black, brown, because they feared for their life. i have read several national stories were a black officer actually disarmed a white shooter, took the gun from the guy and it still managed to arrest him, all without taking his life. i have seen it more than once. however, white officers have a fear -- they will kill a black man who is even handcuffed.

switching to another level, the police department, the racism inside the department is so endemic that the black officers back in the 1960's had to form an organization called the vanguard, to guard against internal racism from the white officers. my third point is the fact that with the baltimore city, they reed to pretty much ensu greater relations between the community and officers by ensuring when you hire an officer, that person comes from the community itself. we have people coming from other goinges, charles county, into the baltimore city metropolitan area where they look at those people -- host: ok. we will go to north carolina, linda. caller: yes, good morning. thank you for taking my call. i wanted to point out that one of the reasons that we are

talking about this situation is your gentleman from -- this morning showed no respect to the office of the president of the united states. i will think -- thank you as a host. you started using president, many did not for a long time, but i guess you got enough calls that said, please, use president. host: we did not have anybody from politico this morning, so i am assuming you are talking about the roll call guest. community relations with the police, what do you have to say about that? caller: i was fortunate enough to come from a small town. when i was growing up, my mother tarred andjust

feathered us if we had shown disrespect the police men in our city. but ihey were all white, lost my dad in 1956 because of policeman shot him. he did not even get out of his truck, but he was drinking. he had gone to a place that sold liquor. he did not have a license -- they did not have a license, but -- they called the police and said he had taken the gun from behind the bar. host: eugene, oregon. hello. caller: thank you for taking my call. citizen, mostng of my interactions with the positive.e been

i can see where there is some prejudice in the area against minorities, but as a white male i have had positive interactions with the police. i think that there is not enough homeless shelters in the area, and there is downtown especially, a lot of homeless people camping out in the median between the street and the sidewalk. know, the jail andbuilt in the 1970's anyway. host: we got the point. a couple other stories to show you as a continued to call on the topic of police community relations. in the eastern and central time zones 202-748-8000.

,mountain and the pacific time zones 202-748-8001. policeforcement officer, officer, and you want to give your perspective 202-748-8002. ,. a story this morning, a story about the first lady undergoing a procedure on monday, described as successful on a benign kidney condition come expected to remain in the hospital the rest of the week. the president visited her, tweeting his wife was in "good spirits." she is 48 years old. the president spoke with mrs. trump before the procedure and afterwards. the president tweeting, "it was a successful procedure." offering his thanks to all the well-wishers. if you go to the las vegas sun website this morning, story about the former senate majority

leader, senator harry reid undergoing cancer treatment, saying the former senator will undergo chemotherapy after doctors removed a tumor from his pancreas. he underwent the surgery at johns hopkins cancer center in maryland after a routine screening detected the tumor, according to a family statement released by the former deputy chief of staff. the surgeons are confident the surgery was a success and the prognosis is good. at 78, harry reid was described as being in good spirits, according to the family. in alabama, richard. good morning. caller: i would like to talk about the respect that was given back when i was younger in the 1970's. they would tell you, sir, would you get out of the car? it was out of respect. people ofo serve the citizen ofity or the

the united states of america -- the police were a lot better at that time. they did not just take out their and tellpoint at you you to get out of the car you whatever. i have been to a lot of different countries, especially in canada. a thing that happened in canada, this guy was trying to get shot. he kept putting his hands in his pocket and pulling them out. they were under control not to shoot this person. this is what the police have to understand. we have to get home safe too. why should they shoot us? they should be protecting us, not as protecting them. host: john, good morning. caller: good morning. rule. are the rich man's

host: the gallup poll did a survey for two different times, taking a look at confidence in police, over all confidence. they took surveys from 2012-2014, 2015-2017. during the 2012-2014 time, 55% saying they had a lot of confidence in police. 2015-2017, 54%. then it breaks it down by race. 59% of hispanics have the confidence, versus 45%. 45% versus 30% for blacks. had-2014, 50% of whites that confidence, 60% of those registering that same sentiment for the time of 2015-2017. that was done by the gallup organization. robert, brooklyn. hi. caller: thank you for taking my call.

say i appreciate the law-abiding citizens. i do not appreciate -- i do appreciate the police department here for their efforts. there are some police they are being- more harmonious each day, thank you. second, you know, i have a comment to make. let me congratulate first c-span for the way that c-span covers real issues, perfect timing. i mean, when you dive or it may attentive the public ongoing issues like the presidential scandals, stormy daniels. it has not appeared on c-span. it would've been best to hear her side of things. of --k the recognition

was unwise. host: we appreciate that. mickey, connecticut. caller: yes, hello. how are you? host: fine, thank you. go ahead. caller: i have a comment to make on the police officer issue. i have been to prison five times and i have been arrested by police officers numerous times, so i understand the police department and the way it works. one out of every 50 police officers might be a corrupt police officer, but the majority of police departments are good and they help the community. my advice to the public is when a police officer stops you, obey every command. do not make sudden moves, do not move your hands, and most importantly, do not argue and bicker with police officers on why they stopped you. that is the worst. that is absolutely the worst

thing you can do is to argue with the police officer. andou follow their commands in the direct order, you will be successful. go by the law and talk to them by the law, because you will not get away. there isun, you can -- no way to get away, because they are in control. the minute they pull you over, police officers are in control. the trouble with blacks, because i am a black man, the trouble is they want to know, why did you stop me? all of that is hostile. even you become hostile, in order for them to listen to you they have to handcuff you. once they start grabbing for a black person, they get more violent, that is when the shootings happened. by a police stopped officer the best way to deal with it is to do every command that they tell you. do not move your hands. i am just saying, they are doing

a great job. host: mickey in connecticut offering his perspective this morning. if you go to the front page of the new york times, two pictures on the opening of the embassy in jerusalem. the larger dealing with the demonstrators running for cover, described along the border against the backdrop of their gas and smoke, new york times reporting 58 killed yesterday during the events. the subset picture is the president's daughter along with the treasury secretary steve mnuchin, they participated in the unveiling of the u.s. embassy in jerusalem which took place yesterday. again, the state department had a showing of it. that is part of this video. a story in the new york times this morning taking a look at the political ramifications of the opening of the embassy from yesterday. the report saying palestinians were enraged about the decision

to reckon i threw some of the capital of israel, and -- over potential terms. they argue in reckon as in jerusalem and moving quickly to relocate the embassy, the united states has shown itself to be unreliable and has forfeited its role as a moderator. on monday, jared kushner, a senior advisor, argued that moving the embassy to jerusalem was not an abandonment of the peace process, but a precursor to it. he made only glancing references to the bloodshed that took place only yesterday. again, yesterday, jared kushner was speaking at that event. here is some of that. >> president trump was very andr that his decision today's its elevation does not reflect a departure from our commitment to lasting peace. theece that overcomes

conflicts of the past in order to give our children a brighter and more balance feature. -- future. as we have seen from the protests, those provoking violence are part of the problem and not part of the solution. [applause] the united states is prepared to support a peace agreement in every way we can. we believe it is possible for both sides to gain more than they give, said that all people can live in peace, safe from danger, free from fear, and able to pursue their dreams. host: on the topic of police commander relations from silver spring, maryland, shakira is next. caller: thank you for this topic. it is near and dear to my heart. i think that police are under a lot of demand, especially in impoverished communities. as far as improving relations, i really feel that perhaps more could be done to put them in

schools, so they have positive outreach and early experiences with youth. so that schools have one designated officer or maybe two of them, for situations that may arise. i also feel like there is a component of cultural diversity training that is necessary. i have a friend that is a police officer in new york city, she said they received training but it was only for one day. wemally, the communities are serving are very diverse and sometimes it needs to occur more extensively. i am also an educator and i feel that when you serve the public, especially in the impoverished communities and urban environments, we carry a lot of the stress. our mental health matters, so i teach my students, i always welcome my classroom for the officers to visit us. i teach my students to respect the law. and i want that way to be

established. i feel that once we establish that, they keep those positive connections, and they can continue. serious topicry into mulch was times, because -- for mulch was times, because he want them to be objective and not run with incidents in a negative way. host: buffalo, new york. go ahead. caller: i was calling about the relations of police and communities. people talk about that we need to train them, you cannot train a lot of them. bring the -- and drag people into the police department, because a lot of these criminals -- and i would want to get the military to defend themselves against the police. i ask about the military, you fight those people overseas but you will not fight the police and they are doing justice for you all. why doesn't the government have a draft, where we draft people

into the police department and stop the criminals from infiltrating the police department. you cannot train a criminal if that criminal has a mindset. host: daniel, is providence, rhode island. caller: good morning. communitiesl the themselves police, have oversight over the police departments, that is where the problems are. because the police, they do it internally. you know, nothing seems to get done. there has to be oversight. ,ost: when you say oversight house so and how much more so than currently goes on in communities? caller: it seems like they do their own investigations and you never hear anything about it. it is all done internally. host: daniel in rhode island. about eight more minutes with

this topic if you want to give your thoughts. we have divided the lines from the pacific, mountain and eastern and central time zones. on facebook, you can continue to post on the topic on facebook.com/cspan and on twitter. usa today and others taking a look at the decision by the supreme court, the one getting attention, about gambling. richard wolf writing, new jersey won a landmark ruling that could lead to many states to legalize betting on college and professional sports. they voted 6-3 that a federal law that has effectively prohibited sports betting outside of nevada, forcing states to keep prohibition on the books as unconstitutional, the ruling could set the stage for other states to expand legalized gambling as a source of revenue. it was a new jersey native that road the court's opinion on the case. ginsberg and others defended.

stephen breyer dissented in part. it, buts could regulate then if they do not do so, each state could do it on their own." from philadelphia, pennsylvania. ken, go ahead. caller: a lot of this has been going on all the time. the main thing is that technology has brought it to light. the good police officers cannot even stop the bad police officers. the police officer doing a crime, they do not get involved. a crime is a crime. if you see a police officer beating somebody, why not arrest the police officer? but with the blue line, that is what happens. have a good day. host: howard is next. caller: i want to piggyback on what somebody said about respecting and obeying the law. by obeying the law, but does not

necessarily mean you should obey police officers. there are a lot of innocent people in jail who have received that advice, obey the police officers, and a that is not true. you should respect the law, the kids will not respect people who do not respect them. it starts with people in the position of authority. unless officers treat young black kids with respect, they will receive none. at the end of the day, if you will make an excuse saying that you fear for your life, that is why you are shooting people, that is bad logic because a lot of these kids are afraid for their lives as well. we do not want to see the ramifications of that. it starts with respect both ways and obeying the law, not individuals. host: follow-up, at least a continuing story, taking a look at iraq and how elections are going. margaret coker, rick gladstone riding out of baghdad, that a militia leader who was about american troops in iraq,

implicated in atrocities against civilians, has emerged as a front runner in the national elections, according to officials. after american forces withdrew vocally he remained anti-american, although he has been google of iran, the other foreign power with widespread influence. the victory of his political coalition could complicated the american strategy in iraq that the -- and the military has been planning missions with the former militia in that could, gambling that they can keep the islamic state from making a comeback. mr. sader has been highly critical against airstrikes in the country, although he has said little about his willingness to allow american troops to remain on iraqi soil. jason in pennsylvania. hi. caller: hello. say, so let lot to

me know if you need me to wrap it up. i have always wanted to call you guys. host: what do you think about police community relations, what is, or what would you first say? recentlyn my life, i had a terrible police experience that has informed my opinions. i wanted to relay it on television, if possible. host: quickly, if you can. caller: i am a caretaker for my 93-year-old grandmother, i live with her. and on the night of june 9, 2016, i was assaulted by a state trooper in the front yard of where i live. i had done yard work all day. they were on a call, i did not know it at the time, but they were on a call for a break in going on down the street. they eventually found that guy. if you ever look at the front

cover of the july 7, 2016 pocono record, they caught the guy during a manhunt. the court system charged me with assaulting a police officer, which was not true, but that is how they were able to construe it. i went through a legal hell i cannot even describe. eventually all charges were dropped against me. i felt terribly treated and respected, not just by that state trooper, but by the court system. host: how many years to resolve that and how much did it cost? caller: i did not hire any lawyers, i had a public defender. i had to get billed out of jail -- bailed out of jail, but it took them a whole year, from june of 2016 until june of 2017 to get rid of all the charges. they were going to send me to a jury trial, but in the last minute the district attorney came to his senses and it turned into a bench trial. every step took months.

i went through an emotional hell. i was suicidal. i wanted to get a lawyer to sue the police, but they were lukewarm about it. the statute of limitations is almost over. host: ok. that was jason in pennsylvania. charles, go ahead. caller: i want to make a comment about the police community relations.i am from waterbury, connecticut , and we happen to have a police, we have a mayor that is a former -- good morning. host: keep going. caller: i come from a city where the mayor is a former police chief. he is doing a really good job, he has a lot of organizations going on for the kids to become police officers. he sponsored this -- host: we will put you on hold for a moment. turned on your television, you

can keep the bounce back from happening and keep the conversation going. from georgia, phil. caller: i just wanted to say that we have excellent police officers. takes 1, 2, 3, 4, to make the entire department look bad. you have to see all the good police officers. need to police officers be policing the bad ones so they are not out there on the public. that is all i want to say, i appreciate it. on thisr last call topic. a lot going on on capitol hill and across the united states. robinson andkey others in the music industry he senatear before th

judiciary committee for music creation and copyright law. if you're interested, you can watch the hearing after this program on c-span. ouro c-span.org and/or c-span app later in the program. tour.e 50 state capitals and later at 2:30 this afternoon, the homeland security secretary will be on capitol .ill in front of the senate on in the program, thean castro, who served in obama administration, not only on housing policy, but political ambitions he may have. all that, coming up on "washington journal." ♪

today,ay on q&a university of virginia history professor william hitchcock on his book "the age of eisenhower: america and the world in the 1950's." >> i call it the disciplined presidency. eisenhower was a disciplined man, an athlete when he was young, organized, methodical. he was extremely organized. especially john kennedy, criticized eisenhower's dodging us for being disciplined, organized, and predictable. eisenhower, it meant when there was a crises he knew how to respond. used to say plans are worthless, planning is everything.

he was a very systematic in the way that he governed. he met the press every week. he met congressional leaders every week. he chaired the national every week. on thehis thumb government. he believed the federal government could work well if it was well led. >> at 8:00 eastern on c-span. connect with c-span to personalize the information you get from us. ando c-span.org/connect sign up for the email. the program guide is a daily mail with the most updated prime time coverage. worked for word you the most videosting daily commentary. booktv sent weekly is an insider's look at upcoming authors and book festivals. the american history tv weekly

newsletter gives you programming exploring our nation's past. sign-up today. "washington journal" continues. host: joining us is ted hesson from politico. can you talk about the homeland what is secretary and homeland security's role in border security? guest: as homeland security secretary, she is the chief cabinet member responsible for immigration enforcement. with this particular administration you have president trump, illegal immigration is a major focus and he wants to make progress. there is an enormous amount of pressure for her to deliver. that has come to a head in the last week or so. in particular, reports that during a cabinet meeting on

wednesday, president trump went on a rant about it illegal immigration. sheng that cabinet meeting took it personally. she even considered quitting. to the point where according to fox news, john kelly actually and imploredielsen her not to quit. it came to a point where there were tensions between her and trump, and it almost seemed like she would have to leave her job. the president is rightly frustrated that the loophole has prevented this administration from securing the border and protecting the american people. i share that frustration. are complicated issues. why do you think about that response and arguments that she

makes? the tsa spokesperson tweeted it was not true that she was close to resigning and drafted a resignation letter. two days later john kelly told another media outlet that he asked her not to quit, which seemed to confirm the story to begin with. in a tight spot with the president. there is so much that a secretary can do. some of the changes he would like to see have to be done by congress or would require an agreement with mexico, for instance, on immigration issues. she can act within a certain sphere of influence, but has limitations on what she can do. host: that hearing will have an earlier. -- will happen later. if you have questions about her role in national security, (202) 748-8000 for democrats.

(202) 748-8001 for republicans. independents, (202) 748-8002. for did the president use nothing has been being done? she was previously john kelly's deputy at the white house. the expectations are high from president trump. during his first year in office, border arrests dropped to the 1971. level since that has not been maintained. it has started to pick up. the president is saying that border arrests are increasing. there was a caravan of migrants traveling through mexico that caught the president's attention. andresumably saw them on tv tweeted about them repeatedly.

this issue was on the forefront of his mind and he was not abc and the progress that he wanted border arrests were dropping. when it comes to the hearing, what is she being questioned about, and what kind of responses to the topic of border security will happen? guest: the hearing is supposed president'sthe budget request, $1.6 billion for a border wall and $80 million over a longer time to build the border wall. the justice department, homeland security department, announced they wanted to refer 100% of people crossing the border illegally for persecution. it means families could be separated when they are crossing the border.

that is also a topic she will face at the hearing today. host: overall strategy, is it still based on the wall, or are there other aspects homeland security could use? guest: they still think, the administration, thinks the wall is a central component of their border strategy. they are trying whatever they can do to bring arrests down, to bring crossings down. this policy, referring everyone for persecution at the border, is meant to be used as a deterrent to keep people from crossing. they are encouraging people, for example, who might want to request asylum to not try to cross the border illegally and go to a port of entry, which is committing a crime, and request asylum when they get there. -- : guest: she at least has some

time in this position. come out withrump cabinet secretaries, and there may have been tengion, but he hasn't taken action for some time. if the relationship doesn't seem to repair itself, it might be months before he decides to let her go or she decides she doesn't want to be in the role. that she isyou say a loyal supporter of president trump? how would you describe her? guest: there seems to be a campaign amongst advisors who are painting her in the picture of a never trumper. that she was not an original trump supporter. i cannot say for sure, but i can't say she was part of the george w. bush administration and she worked at the homeland security department before that. that is the case for many people it vhs. some people were with the -- dhs.

some people were with the obama administration. execute theble to president's mission and work for previous presidents, certainly. "ost: ted hesson from "politico joins us. teresa from columbus, ohio. caller: hi, thank you so much for c-span. is, as a border security policy, isn't this a property rights policy, too? if i was in my backyard having a barbecue and 20 strangers started rolling through, i would be appalled. i don't think that people have a put that on people's land because they have a goal that is in their interest and i forgo my right to have my private property. thet this just as much of

whole makeup? i certainly wouldn't want to live next to the border with this going on. i wouldn't want to live in columbus, ohio with this going on. can you talk about private property rights and where people fit in? a good question. there are plenty of people you would talk to you at the border that are concerned with people crossing and paying on their property. part of the mission of what homeland security is asking for pushing people towards ports of entry is to discourage it regular crossings at the border. the private property debate goes both ways. they are talking about building a wall, and plenty of people would not like to see that and are not willing to surrender their property for that. host: beaverton, oregon. say in of it like to terms of the overall -- i would

like to say the overall border policy is repugnant. it has increased potentially in 2019 up to 52,000. in terms of the justice department declaring they have no problems separating families, i just do not understand that. a couple of weeks ago i went to the head of catholic charities. she talks about -- he talked respectingicians her. they will be a point where the people of faith will not simply want to be respected. they will want to be heard. guest: i know you raised the detention bed question. the 52,000 or so is what the

administration is requesting in their fiscal 2019 budget. i think it will be a question of separating families, of course, some people have ethic issues with that and what it could mean for kids psychologically and years to come that they were split from their parents for may be months at a time and placed in restrictive settings. that said, the administration is considering this a deterrent. host: you can see this hearing on c-span.org. if you go to our website you can get all of the information on the hearing and border security topics at c-span.org. san antonio, texas, republican line. yes, sir. i think president trump has hit the nail on the head. we need to secure our borders. we are still a nation. borders without

is eroded over time. a lot of people want to come in -- and you know, but they have to come across legal. we don't want riffraff, we want people that want to work and make an honest living. secure our borders because the drugs are pouring across. americans deserve it. we pay taxes, we want to live secure and our homes. i think president trump is heading in the right direction, whether we need a wall, a wider river,, whatever it takes to secure the north, south, east, west, whatever it takes time for it and go president trump. i thought ofestion is where border arrests stand. vocalesident has been

that they have increased and he is not happy. through march and april. last year they reached the lowest point in decades. a report inut out september are the border is harder to cross illegally than it ever has before by all the metrics they have. i think the border is quite secure. whether some people think it could be taken further is another question. host: (202) 748-8000 for democrats. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. independents, (202) 748-8002. host: the ninth circuit court of appeals takes a look at a case involving the daca program and the trump administration. what will happen? guest: this allows young undocumented immigrants to apply for work permits and have some deportation relief.

not renew the program. a federal judge in san francisco in january blocked trump's decision to and the program meaning that the administration had to keep accepting renewals through daca. appealed, and now we are at the ninth circuit where therguments, administration hopes to convince the appeals court to overturn the block on the decision. host: you can see the hearing live at 4:00 this afternoon. if you miss it, it will re-air on c-span 2 at 8:00 this afternoon. we will get you to respond. [video clip] >> more than two months have passed since the administration

the daca program. during our meeting last week, when the issue of daca was raised, i was encouraged to hear you say you want to work on this. daca include hundreds of thousands of individuals and servingcolleges in the military. every day since that announcement was made and before terrified.p every night they are afraid there will be a knock on their door at midnight removing them from their home and tearing them family.om their do you agree that legislation must be passed to protect these young people before the end of this calendar year? >> we owe it to them to find a permanent solution. it is no way to expect anyone to live 2 months at a time. >> hopefully we will be working in a bipartisan way.

if confirmed, will you commit these young people will not be ement priority while congress is working to fix this problem? >> yes, ma'am. host: the secretary's role in daca overall as the solution is being sought? is forced tourt continue accepting renewals. they are still seeking to end the program as they originally intended. what you heard in nielsen's comments about wanting a legislative solution, the white house says they do want some kind of law passed in congress to solve the daca program. very high.price is they are not just wanting to pass a law to legalize dreamers enrolled in the program, they would like other things that involve a border wall and funding for that, cutting legal

immigration in half, which is not palatable to democrats and many republicans, and what they loopholes,g asylum which would reform asylum laws. though they say they want administration to deal with dreamers, they want that and a much grander package of laws. host: looking at the larger issue of daca, is this part of the permanent solution or is there reality to this effort? guest: what you have in the house are some republican to feel they need to take action on daca and are pushing a discharge petition so the house will vote on it. get 218 signatures before it can move forward. i'm not sure it will get to that at the moment. even if it can advance, it needs to pass in the senate and the president needs to sign it. the white house has said they would reject legislation that doesn't deal with other security measures.

and: the immigration employment reporter from politico joining us. hello. pedro. good morning, i was listening to him talk about arrests on our border today. the arrest is where you have to detain somebody. what he doesn't talk about is what is called apprehensions and kickbacks. in operationrted in 1950k in -- wetback five. that is a skewed way of saying something. when i hear these people talk like of this, it makes me wonder, it is no different than obama. before obama started with a deportation hearing. obama got smart and said we are going to call deportations --

apprehensions and kickbacks deportations. that is skewing the numbers. obama never deported close to as many people as past administrations. these people are skewing things a bad just for political party. wouldn't it be fun to go into the editorial board when they are sitting down for a meeting and hearing how they are going to write something? host: what would you like our guest to clarify? caller: when he is talking about the lowest amount of arrests? what does that mean? an arrest means that you have to detain someone. guest: border apprehensions. that is often used for proxy for people crossing the border illegally. they don't have a perfect way to judge how many people try to cross every month, but they can

track border arrests and apprehensions is another word for it. those numbers have stood up to scrutiny. they have been looked at externally over time. people do think they are reliable and trustworthy. whether there are different metrics you can look at, people that were pushed back and go is anotherico, that thing, but following border arrests i think it is indisputable they dropped through the first year of the trump presidency and are starting to pick back up now. host: susan, hello. caller: i am from the maryland area. lots of businesses by the shore are closing. they used seasonal workers. a lot of them voted for trump. i have some of them that our friends.

where going to find out what happens when you do not allow people to do jobs that americans are not doing. you are not going to get these people addicted to opioids to do the work. maybe this is a lesson we will learn when you vote for someone that really doesn't care. host: and that 50,000 workers will be added for the summertime, paint that into the picture. the administration is considering adding 15,000 or so pieces coming -- 15,000 or so guestworker visas for seasonal jobs. those businesses have been clamoring for more guestworkers in recent months. the administration is of super open to the idea bringing a bigger guestworker program into the country, and have been careful about how far they will go for this. hasetary kirstjen nielsen

said they are considering adding more pieces. it is reported 15,000 or so could be added. host: democrats line. caller: i'm talking about the children being separated. judges onmigration c-span where they spoke about the guatemalan mother who had come in illegally and paid a coyote to deliver her child to the border guard. sometimes people are deliberately separating themselves from their children because it is to their vantage. advantage. i'm not for separating children, but this is a complicated issue. guest: it is complicated, and some people are probably traveling to the border and ascending for their kids to unify with them later. the administration is taking

deterrent steps to say all people who attempt to cross illegally, we will persecute them. if we separate families, then we separate families. they're hoping that deters people not to come. host: the migrant caravan, what happened? guest: it was an activist movement that had happened a few times in years past. some of them reached the border, not the number traveling originally. 150 or so ended up seeking asylum in the u.s. when that happens, people will drop out of sight. they will cross into the country. entry, went to a port of they will likely be released with a notice to appear. and lest their lawyers publicize their cases, we might not know exactly how they end. host: independent line from

north carolina. my question is with the mexican government. of millionsds of dollars in trade with them each year, why can't they provide jobs for their own people? that should be throughout the whole of south america. guest: one interesting trend is in recent years the level of illegal immigration from mexico has decreased quite a bit. more with the administration seems to be focusing on people arriving from central american countries. it is a different economic picture than in mexico right now. there is instability economically and violence and gang violence. all those factors are pulling people appear. that said, the trump administration would love to come to an agreement with mexico where mexico accepts some of the

central american asylum-seekers. sorthave not reached that of agreement yet, but that is something they will love to come to if they could. host: richard, kansas, independent line. caller: my comment is i have republican-ledhe congress and administration is more concerned confirming judges to change the laws, which will have a big effect on immigration , sanctuary cities. that's all i have. thank you, very much. guest: certainly a lot of the immigration policy has played out in the courts cents trump -- since trump took office. there has been his travel ban policy, three versions that have ended up in federal courts one way or the other. sanctuary cities is another one. it is interesting, the role of the judiciary is playing in

whether these policies are able to go forward or not. administration bolstering judges or those who deal with the issue? to theconfirming judges federal judiciary. immigration lawyers are part of the judiciary department. they want funding for more of the judges, but it is a question of securing the resources to hire more judges, which they would like to do more of in the future. host: one more call from the republican line. morning, gentlemen. there is a a lot of talk about the ethical problem of theyating families once get here. what about the ethical problem of the people bringing the kids on a dangerous, dangerous journey to bring them into a country illegally, kids illegally, and live in the , or hiring coyotes?

the coyotes, people don't have the money to give the coyotes and they are sold into ,lavery, ms 13 and other gangs to do prostitution and drugs. it is always us that is bad, what about these parents letting.their kids going on a dangerous journey they could get killed, raped, whatever. what about that ethical part? guest: that is a consideration. i have heard the ice acting director talk about things you mentioned, how it is a dangerous journey and how people shouldn't be making it. he will say the administration has a responsibility to discourage people from making the trip because it is dangerous and they could come to harm. , you can findon his work at politico.com. thank you.

coming up, we will hear from the former secretary of housing and urban development as he talks about housing policy under the trump administration and if he is considering a run for the white house in 2020. our c-span 50 capitals tour continues. governor dennis did guard joining us from the capital city of pierre. it asl talk about "washington journal" continues. sunday on q&a, university of virginia history professor william hitchcock on his book "the age of eisenhower: america and the world in the 1950's." >> i call it the disciplined presidency. eisenhower was a disciplined man, a great athlete when he was young, an organized man, very

methodical. that is how he ran the white house. he was very organized. a lot of people, especially senator john kennedy, criticized eisenhower for being so organized and predictable. are eisenhower, it meant when there was a crises he had a plan, he knew who to turn to. he used to say plans are isthless, but planning everything. he was very systematic in the way that he governed. press every week, he met congressional leaders every week, he chaired the national security council every week. he had his thumb on the government. process.d the he believed the federal government could work well if it was well led. c-span, where history unfolds

daily. a 1979, c-span was created as public service by america's cable television companies. today, we continue to bring you unfiltered coverage of congress, the white house, the supreme court, and public policy events andashington , d.c. around the country. c-span is brought to you by your cable or television provider. >> "washington journal" continues. julio ann kuster served as the housing and urban development secretary. what brings you to washington, d.c.? guest: delivering remarks at the ideas conference. talking bout in close of politics going forward. of the headlines that

in march from "the washington times" is talking about a possible presidential run. is that in your future? guest: i have been straightforward. i said i will work on helping other candidates running. we have an election in november that is the most important thing. i launched an effort called opera trinity first to help young, progressive democrats -- helpd opportunity first to young, progressive democrats get elected. before the end of the year i will make a decision about my own future. i have not made a decision yet, but i will before the end of the year. host: what compelled you to think about it? guest: washington, d.c. is a leadership.

this president is taking the country in the wrong direction. i have always had a positive view of my community and my country. host: what elements contribute to that positive vision? the goal of the united states and the 21st century is to be the smartest, strongest, and the safest nation on earth. today, more than any other time in human history, all those things run together. a world wherein brainpower is the new currency of success. we get stronger as a country the smarter we get, the more we invest in the skills, the people.s, of our may get stronger and safer the more we exercise our soft power and not necessarily our military power. all those things go together these days. i don't see an administration thet now that is moving

united states ahead in the 21st to.ury the way it needs i think it is making us less safe. i think it is doing a great injustice to the potential of so country.le in this i have very blessed to have lived my own american dream. i got involved in public service because i wanted to make sure other people could also reach their dreams. i will think about that and make a decision before the end of the year. aboutour guest will talk this and other issues until 9:00. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. (202) 748-8002 for independents. you can tweet questions or comments @cspanwj. looking at a potential run, what did you learn from the 2016 election about what to do or what not to do if you are considering a run yourself? guest: i think that has been

analyzed so many times. gotously, hillary clinton 2.8 million more votes than president trump, but he got more electoral college votes. there is work democrats need to 2020.2018 and i believe whatever happens in runs, therms of who democratic nominee will be someone who has a vision to unite the country instead of divide it. who is focused on opportunity for everybody, instead of as president trump is taking and choosing who gets opportunity and who doesn't. someone who has a vision for the future instead of trying to take us backwards like this administration is. and some of the american people feel like they can trust. someone who has integrity. all you have to do is turn on the internet or cable news on a daily basis to see this is the most corrupt administration we

have had in this country in a very long time. i don't think fundamentally the american people support that. host: when it comes to campaigning, do you see trying versusout a message being described as overly critical sending out that message as it deals with this administration? 2est: in 2018 there will be messages the democrats should put forward. will create opportunity for everyone. what is the vision for the future? second, accountability. you can see it is not a good idea right now to have the same party in charge of washington, d.c. and not holding the administration accountable. the only way you'll get any accountability in washington is to put some sort of balance into the system.

that is why i think the democrats will at least take back the house in december. host: from sitting in the would yout hud, how gauge the current holder of that position, ben carson, and policy dealing with housing? carsoni'm sure secretary is trying his best, however that department and this administration are going in completely the wrong direction when it comes to housing policy. it hasn't been a priority. they proposed cutting the budget . most recently, they announced that they are going to raise the rents, in some cases triple the rents, of folks that live in public housing at a time when a lot of folks are struggling. it is the wrong thing to do. they have scrapped a plan to help further desegregate communities throughout the united states, something that

was a signature accomplishment of the obama administration and i believe for create more opportunity for people of all different backgrounds. instead of creating greater housing opportunity, they are limiting housing opportunity. that means it will fall more to governors and mayors to be innovative, to invest resources, to get creative, and work together to boost housing opportunity in the country. arguesecretary carson that when you get into those programs you stay in those programs. does he have a point? guest: i get the argument. you don't want folks to be living in public housing forever. however, there is data to back up how long folks generally live in public housing, 5-7 years. it is true sometimes you have folks that are multi-generational inhabitants, but that is not the norm.

i would also say i have never believed just because someone is poor they don't want to work. that have households working-age individuals that are hud assisted are working. suggest theymer to are not working. they are not lazy. a lot of the ones that don't have work are in a ged program, they are pursuing higher education to get gainful employment. we should be done scapegoating people just because they are poor. making that kind of assumption about them. i don't buy that. host: our first one is from clark county, nevada, darlene, republican line. go ahead. caller: good morning, mr. castro. how are you, sir? such a deal.

onm having all the problems god's green earth with hud. guest: you will have to refresh me on what those sections are. caller: 24 cfr is the rule that started according to wikipedia under your administration at hud. it is demanding all residents who live in public housing, like me, are physically disabled. i have a multitude of chronic required. that are i am not permitted to smoke due to disability and medications i am on. 25-feet from to be

the house. do you know what las vegas summers are like? guest: thank you for the question. this is something i'm proud of. during the last year of the administration, something we did was implement a smoke-free housing rule in public housing. we did that because across the country over the years we heard complaints, especially from senior citizens who were dealing with health issues, with illnesses that were exacerbated because folks were smoking around them and it was making their health worse. there were, at the time, 612 different housing authorities that had gone smoke-free or were on their way. what surprised me about the process was we didn't get more pushback. i was surprised. when i was mayor of san antonio,

we had gone through implementing smoke-free restaurants, bars, and so forth. we got a a lot of pushback. it seems like the folks living in public housing were ready for this. after we did it, we had a lot of folks that said how happy they were that they didn't have to inhale all of the smoke in their home because they couldn't get away from it. it made reasonable accommodations for folks that were addicted for housing authorities to work with them. some of the housing authorities would set up areas of their complexes were folks could go if they needed to to smoke. we didn't expect someone from wo to magically quit smoking. we knew that wouldn't happen. we engaged folks to work on smoking cessation for folks that wanted to quit. the idea being that you could ease folks into quitting if that

is what they wanted to do. smoke inhey could not their home anymore, but there was a place away from where everyone was living where they could. host: new jersey, john, independent line. caller: hey, mr. castro. how are you today? guest: i'm doing well. an 82-year-old b lack korean veteran. i have been through presidents from theodore roosevelt to donald trump. obama got into office, the black community was very happy he got there. they were looking for things for him to do for the

african-americans. however, a lot of african-americans don't feel obama showed up for them. that he was business as usual. how dotion to you is, you feel about african-americans and what will you do for them other than just take their vote for granted? don't take their vote for granted because they know african-americans are not going to vote for them, but democrats take advantage of the african-americanv -- african-american vote. what are you going to do about this if you become president? guest: number one, i never believed, and still don't believe, president obama took the african-american community for granted. let me give you an example from

and the we did at hud push that came from the white house to make sure several cabinet agencies worked on this, to do our part for criminal justice reform. giving folks and effective second chance after they have been incarcerated. as you know, in the history of ,his country and even today african-american men are disproportionately tied up in our criminal justice system. when they have done their time and they try to get out and get a job and get on with their lives and be productive the way they want to, one of the first things that happens is they tried to look for a job or get housing. often, they are asked out of out of that even though they served their time.

the obama administration pushed sod to ban the box, employers would consider the merits of someone that had been incarcerated. at hud, we worked with housing authorities to say just because someone has a criminal record doesn't automatically mean they should be excluded from living in public housing or get hud assistance. that is one example of a concrete way that the president and his administration was focused on the needs of all americans. of course, people from all different backgrounds have been incarcerated and deal with those issues, but disproportionately it impacts the african-american community will stop we made meaningful progress on that. i believe this administration, the trump administration, is going the other way. whether it is regard to access

to housing or jobs for any number of other things. host: from maryland, democrats line. caller: good morning, secretary castro. us out oftrump pulled the transpacific partnership. during the 2016 he was against free trade deals. tpps a big supporter of the . i think one of the biggest mistakes that hillary clinton made was she was -- there was no one out there really talking about the benefits of free trade deals. she didn't hear it -- she position.ay from that what is your position on those trade deals? guest: i can understand the frustration with these trade ense that many believe that these trade deals

have been agreed to or entered into with the concern of the big corporations first instead of the american worker and employee first. i believe it makes sense to renegotiate agreements like nafta. i believe it makes sense to strengthen the labor and environmental protections on the other side when we get into these trade agreements. there is a greater enforcement capability in these agreements. i disagree with folks that think we should completely scrap our trade agreements. i think they do have a place. my hope is they can be strengthened. seeas been interesting to donald trump backpedal and talk about perhaps a tpp-like agreement. what is happening is that china is about to eat our lunch.

wither it is agreements other asian countries or latin america, the united states needs to make sure it both the benefits its workers first, but it also maintains its dominant position in the world when it comes to trade. ee absolutely cannot leaav our dominant position in the world. that is what is happening under donald trump. saying this trade negotiations continue with china making hundreds of billions of dollars from the u.s., stay tuned. and the paper highlighting that the president is concerned about the telecom giant. but those into perspective. guest: donald trump is operating under the idea that he can say whatever he wants as long as he seems straight forward about what he is saying. what he is doing is he is counting on your skepticism about politicians, that you

believe they are never going to tell you the truth, they are never going to be straightforward with you. what good does it do if someone is straightforward one day and says one thing, and seems a straightforward the next day process something different? yesterday, his tweet was about the need to create more jobs in china. our concern was supposed to be creating more jobs than the united states. that is a complete reversal. it might have something to do, as some have suggested, with the fact he may be personally benefiting. there was some right up yesterday that he might be personally benefiting, or one of his companies, from a potential investment the chinese are making. that is quite a reversal, quite a different way to look at trade. we need to take the longer view. we need to understand that we should put our american workers first.

that there is mutual ensure to be gained to the united states does robust trade around the world. when and if we enter into agreement, we need to make sure we get that gain. host: germantown, maryland, democrats line. caller: i already aked my question. host: barbara, oklahoma, independent line. go ahead. caller: i would like to ask him about reverse mortgages. i have talked to a lot of single, older women who have gotten into this thing. every one of us, i am one of them, my sister is one of them -- every one of us hate it. all he can talk about is helping the foreigners, helping the

foreigners, the illegals, his people, but no one mentions helping us. that reverse mortgage is a scam, and it should be done away with. barbara,anks a lot, for the question. one thing we try to do at hud was to make sure consumers are better informed about reverse mortgages. people have seen the late-night television commercials of someone pitching a reverse mortgage that allow seniors to use the equity of their homes to be able to borrow against that. concerns have arisen over the years with the widows or widowers, folks that have entered into a reverse mortgage about people to stay in the home. and we have done at hud, what i hope the administration continues to do, is to make sure

consumers are very informed. this is especially important when we are dealing with senior citizens entering into reverse mortgages. second, the terms of reverse mortgages protect the ability as much as possible of folks to be able to stay in their home if ey areose their spouse, th a widow or widower. if we are careful about them, there is a place for verse mortgages. i don't think every single reverse mortgage is a scam, i disagree with you, but i think we need to be careful. is are correct that industry rife for taking advantage with -- advantage of people. to matters when it comes to foreign policy. the administration pulls out of the iran nuclear deal and potential talks with north korea.

how does the castro administration, if it comes to fruition of a what is the overriding policy for you? guest: that we delivered our relationships around the world with our allies and seek to gain the agreement of our adversaries to control the proliferation of nuclear weapons. that is what we have done with the iran deal. all of our european allies and china and russia, our adversaries, have agreed after several years of work together wouldt sanctions if iran scrap its nuclear weapons program with the strongest set of inspections ever put together. what's odd is president trump is saying with kim jong-un in north korea, we may help you with your economy if you give up your nuclear weapons program. that is essentially what the iran deal was that he just scrapped for no good reason.

eastham has and given us a strong reason. we damaged our credibility -- he has not given us a strong reason. we damaged our credibility. i have a feeling that what he is if there ispen is success with north korea, that that success is going to look a lot like the iran deal that we just scrapped that is going to toow iran, if they want, restart their nuclear weapons program. it was a bad mistake, and people on the left, the right, and the middle have called it a hotheaded mistake that the president has made. host: hi. caller: thank you for taking my call. i wanted to call in when the question came up about how would i hope i said

, helped theama african-american community. to break challenge you that kind of thinking that the first thing you think about is the incarcerated community. i don't know if it is the democratic mentality or just president obama, but these commented dominator type of mentality, and there are a whole lot of african-americans that there are things that can be done to help the people rise, especially with regard to education, tearing down barriers to entry, things that don't have anything to do with jail. no, that was one example. there are plenty of things that the obama administration did, including greater investments in education. including overseeing the

whichry of our economy, benefited african-americans and other americans tremendously. i reject the notion that thecrats in any way have lowest common denominator believe about african-americans or anybody else. what we want is for everybody, no matter their background, to be able to reach their american dream and that is why we want more investments made in education, in job training. that is why we want folks that are looking for housing to be able to get housing opportunity. this administration has made it housingor folks to get opportunity. it is a reality that that does disproportionately impact some communities more than others. to pretend like that is not the case i don't think does anyone service. host: denver, colorado. hi.

caller: good morning, mr. castro. i am calling about a in the weed around the democratic message for 2018 and 2020. i heard you talk about uniting. don't really need it. i think the idea should be we're in this together. and is there a message there you could build on? thank you. guest: thanks for the suggestion. i think that whether folks talk of unity or erms moving forward together, i think

idea is that there are more things that bring s together than pull us apart and that we need leaders that are trying to find that common people together because you're right, you know, ways this has been one of the most divisive dministrations and divisive in s, most polarized time our nation's history, at least in modern era. i do believe that people want at the city her level, state level or the federal level that are trying to and thank e together you very much for the suggestion. the daca program come in under the obama administration, trump administration says congress deal with this ultimately. do you agree with that approach? eked long as think as congress continues to skirt its

responsibility to handle reformhensive immigration or do a clean dream act i'm concerned about the lives of daca resip rs and ynresip recipients. my hope is courts will return a favorable opinion on that program. ideally, sure, congress should be. but the fact is that they had 2013, 68 rtunity in senators voted for comprehensive jo john on reform and boehner would not take a vote. job, ess is not doing its in those instances, i support the executive order that signed for daca. host: talking with former ecretary of houseing and urban development, julian castro, 2017.d from 2014 to mr. secretary, thanks for your time. great to be with you. host: coming up, dennis daugaard

aboard the c-span bus as part of "50 capitals south carolina is where the bus is parked today. that conversation coming up right after the break. >> sunday on q&a, university of professor story of iam hitchcock, the age eisenhower in the 1950s. disciplined the presidency and eisenhower, the way he carried himself and the a disciplined man, a great athlete when he was in every organized man respect, very methodical, that ran the white house, too. extremely organized. people, especially john kennedy criticized developed, for being organized and predictable. for eisenhower, it meant when had a plan, knew how to respond and who to turn

to. plans are say worthless, but planning is everything. you are always thinking, what is what crisis might erupt? we should be thinking about it. e was systematic in the way he governed, he met the press every week, congressional leaders week, he chaired the national security council every had his thumb on the government, he trusted the process, he believed the federal government could work well if it was we l easternunday night at 8 on c-span. host: stop number 33 on c-span's "50 capitals tour." the we're in one of smallest state capitals, pierre, 14,000 residents live there. of the ing us in front tate capitol is the gfrovernor,

dennis daugaard. governor daugaard, thanks for being with us, you enter your office.ear in what do you consider to be your accomplishments and what do you undone? left governor daugaard: well, when i office, as was the case for many governors eight years go, our state budget was in a deficit situation because of the lingering effects of the recession. and so i, like many other governors around the country, the budget n. our case, we did it all with cuts budget back into hape in one year and we've had budget surplus since then every year and looks like we'll end modest surplus. i think that has been good. rating iple a rated by agencies now, pension is fully funded. stability and good foundation for state

budget is one of the main willplishments that people look to. ahead, looking ahead, i'd say we're facing again, the you kind of problem that see in many of the states because the economy is doing have a low e unemployment rate, the nation unemployment rate and we have quite a few citizens, jobs , still looking for and their skill set does not that employers need on the job. and so a skills mismatch work force development is key element we need to be working on of my term and i'm sure the next governor will ontinue to work on that, as well. host: how are you addressing that? >> well, right now, we're trying encourage more career exploration in middle schools help young people

understand more clearly what paths are available to credentials that actually lead jobs. i think the traditional as the r degree for all only road to heaven has been as good vote to heaven, but not the only road. not young people are succeeding following that path. i think if you look at most of states around the country, ou will see maybe 80 to 90% high school graduation rate and about 60 0, let's say to 65 will go on to begin a degree and of those or 40 of them will actually complete. who means 60 of those graduated or began high school, either did not graduate from graduate l or did not

from the four-year degree program. they have student debt and don't have a skill set that makes them eligible for some of the best jobs. host: governor daugaard, for the south dakotans, agriculture is a big industry in is rural flight a problem? rural life is great. i grew up on a farm, when i'm my wife g governor, linda and i are going back to our farm, our house. life with the advent of broadband is pretty good. that we are struggle withing in south dakota and you'll see across the commodity prices in lmost all commodities, relatively low. e had great years in 2011 and '12 and '13. that helped south dakota do fairly well compared

other states during the recession period. but now the reverse is true is booming onomy around the country and doing well in non-farm parts of the south dakota, the agriculture is struggling. farmer necessary rural crops are breaking even or losing money and those in livestock agriculture aren't doing a lot better. we see prices recover, we're hoping they will that we'll get back into profitable years for our ranchers.nd host: are young people leaving the rural areas? would say that's true, yeah. insouth dakota, we are a net immigration state as a whole. but in migration not migrating to rural areas. we consider a rural area in south dakota would be different than what you would consider a area as a small population

state with large footprint. the argest city is only metro area is quarter million people. city to which many south dakotans are migrating or to rapid city te near mount rushmore, metro maybe 100,000. i imagine in your world, that is considered rural. we consider more rural, which are typically dominated by agriculture, i'd the population is generally declining and that is because larger scale and more efficient, you don't need as many people to produce the kinds of food and fiber. host: dennis daugaard is our guest, republican governor of south dakota. screen,umbers are on the if you would like to participate in the conversation this morning. 202-748-8000 if you are a south

dakot dakotan. and all others, if you want to alk to the governor, 202-748-8001. now governor, if anyone applied in the last 20rd years, chances are they got an from sioux falls, south dakota. what is it about the banking law south dakota that enable this industry? it all comes back to during the years crime rate was double digits and one point was getting us -- in ting a situation where citicorp wasibank, paying more for deposits than they could charge for their card loans edit based on the new york usury laws. there were a number of states in the country, south dakota among restrictive less

usury laws or no usury laws and market determine where interest rate shoulds fall. looked around the country and settled upon south dakota as place to move their division.d they packed up their credit card effort and move today to sioux falls, south dakota. and they have been in south dakota ever since. s a consequence, we ended up having well-trained work force in the credit card arena. fargo has large credit card operation in south dakota other banks of moved credit card operations to south dakota, in part originally of interest rate freedom, but mostly today no-income tax a state and we also have a very that rained work force in area. host: you say you have no income budget outh dakota,

little over $4 billion, how is that derived? host: most of our income is from sales tax, about three quarters sales tax, ues from the next largest would be video lottery, gambling and other ottery revenues than we have some syntaxes on alcohol and of thing.hat sort most revenue is from sales tax, tax, not justsales n goods, on a fair number of services. primarily good economy to a economy, we have been able to maintain our share of tax.nue from our sales that being said, we're a low tax state. i think new hampshire might have a smaller budget than south dakota. ur budget is pretty small, we're a talk minimally spend

state.lly host: you mentioned video lottery or revenues from that, decision yesterday by supreme court on sports betting. how does that affect you as south dakota? term, ell, in the near not at all. our constitution prohibits gambling unless it's allowed in the constitution. o probably a quarter century ago or so the voters amended the onstitution to allow limited gaming in certain areas. we have one city in south dakota las vegas-style destination game suggest allowed. our reservation, ndian reservations allow gameing and beyond that video lottery, because sports bet suggest not specifically allowed in the constitution, it is isallowed, so if the voters want to have sports betting, the would have to amend

constitutionconstitution, it is so if the voters want to have sports betting, they would have to amend the constitution, that petition drive or legislative action to get on the allot in 2020, after which it could be permit federal voters voted to do so. in favor of that? host: i really don't care that it.h about i think our citizens don't care that much about it. that.i'm wrong about f south dakotans want to engaming in sports betting, plenty of opportunity to do that. go through thee, process to get on ballot and change constitution to do it. not a big y, i'm better, i don't object to it, ertainly an important form of revenue for our state. i'mn't really object to it, just personally not very it.rested in

host: governor daugaard, nine state gn nations in the of south dakota. let's hear from callers. irvig, texas. i have a comment for the governor. your state is pretty comparedive state, but to the republican clowns that run texas as far as gambling and that, make your state look pretty liberal. y comment was, i haven't much comment on you from president trump when he's done some of the tuff he's done and deserved criticism, are you more of a go get along with this administration, instead of peaking out on what you know isn't right? host: governor excuse me, didy, you have more? ost: i apologize, i

interrupted. host: governor daugaard: i'm delighted someone from texas is interested in my opinion on president trump. surprised by that. thank you for asking. i think president trump and his a very good oing job of engaging with the states. made that comment just recently, just yesterday i was washington, d.c. last week. acaosta and ecretary secretary devos. meeting with the president about apprenticeships. south dakota has workforce and i believe president rump's initiative in encouraging apprenticeship is a good and practical solution. i'm very pleased with the way administration is inn gaging with the states. a sident trump is certainly man of his own mind and he's

ifficult to predict and sometimes i'm uncertain if i understand his motivations, but said, i'm certainly pleased with the way his administration is engaging with states and giving us a little more economic freedom and think we alism that i lacked in the prior administration. daugaard, nor according to ballot pedia, part budget comes from the federal government, a lot of that monsne hed to share r daugaard: hair has strings attached to it. that is true of a lot of federal programs the states see. 200 to 300 ll say, of federal in form gas tax money, return to the state. of the state nee because i think the federal government recognizes our large

expanses are bridges between the centers ly populated around the country. as an example, i want to say two-thirds of our eavy truck traffic neither origins nor terminates in south dakota. we're not able to or we're not creating interstate system our citizens in that instance, we're creating a maintaining system that benefits primarily people utside of south dakota n. many cases, federal dollars that t go for thingse that do benefit people outside and those in a south dakota. host: connor calling from green suburbs.hington in the go ahead, con94. caller: i applaud you for having budget surplus, i wish we could

government.eral my question is, what do you find o be as governor, easiest and hardest thing to work with the federal government about? thank you. governor daugaard: ooh. that's a good question. right now one of the hard things we're working with the federal government on is the army corps engineers and their management of the missouri river. you may know, during the '50s and '60s, the paid for vernment substantial dams on the missouri help and those dams regulate the flow of mot moand elp prevent flooding, maintain navigation downstream, provide states andwithin our other states like montana and dakota, the federal government has taken the the water at all of impounded by the is theirs to

and leads regulate to ridiculous situation during flood, for the11 example, when the outflows from the main stem dams along the river was at epic end --ions, create tre tremendous flooding. ould not allow contractors to withdraw temporarily portions of the water from the river to do construction projects. so i think the army corps of ngineers has been a very difficult agencys to deal with and i'm hoping we'll get relief administration. , it has been the easiest has been easy to work with most cabinet agencies. secretary perdue from department secondsecretary accosta,

azar, many cabinet secretaries nder trump administration have proven easy to work with and easy to communicate with. meeting, i'm able to get it, generally responsive. that has been pretty easy in recent years. host: joshua from south dakota. onler: i want to applaud you surplus as far as budget. i'm student at university of basketball , play here. earlier you were speaking about universities. you your take on the rumors of university, public universities could be looking at end of collective bargaining? contracts are important and without picking one side or the other, i want to that. hear your input on

geek geekd /* /- guest: legislative proposals were offered in the last disallow e session to collective bargaining at our public universities. failed.gislation so i think to the extent that there were some in the wanted to who prohibit that, they did not find legislature and i can't say whether or not the again, l be brought prime sponsor of the bill is not re-election, he won't be back and won't be prime-sponsoring that bill. we'll see. for now, no effort or no legislation i'm aware of that bring that issue back the -- thanks for the question. host: about 32% of south dakota budget goes toward education.

of dakota status daugaard?governor there was protest, it was last year? south carries oil from dakota further south of us and formation oil produced in north dakota and transporting it through this pipeline. pipeline was built in south completed, i think, 2017, but there was a ection that passed underneath the river in north dakota, where it th dakota, crossed under the missouri and again, dealing with the army that was ngineers, last section of pipeline where provided to the construction company to

complete. but ipeline was complete, for that two mile section or something ection, because the d ection was adjacent to the missouri river, where the federal government has some there was allowed a very which rotest gathering, the and grew and that was location where protest lasted a number of months and the permit as granted and construction completed and so the dakota dakota access pipeline ight now is running and is delivering oil from north dakota refineriesuthward to

and so i don't know what more to about it. caller: what is your take on climate change and you have the agriculture, is the army corps of engineers dipping into the mississippi river in future, like 20 years from now? what about all the fertilizers river?nto the thank you. governor.ahead, guest: okay. first of alla, i do believe the , human is changing activity is contributor to change. as far as the army corps of the river,pping into if you are meaning for agriculture, i continuing is much large-scale

irgation. i believe there will continue to modest amount of irgation withdrawal from the river. there is today. if you go up and down the issouri and the mississippi, you'll see intake pipelines up and down the river, where adjacent to the river given permits to withdraw and of course that water supply is replenished some by snowd then pack and rainfall, as waters is redelivered by the clouds to the upper reaches of the missouri basin. nd help me remember the -- oh, fertilizer. i would say right now that is largest nonpoint pollution source that we have to

agriculture moves away from conventional till farming to no till farming there be better absorption of applied fertilizers and less we'll have better soil quality and soil health and microbial activity will be better. less siltation agkwuculture depends on moving away from tillage to no till. e are seeing that occur in south dakota, i would it would occur more quickly than it, we south ing that occur in dakota. host: governor daugaard, have attended sturgess motorcycle dakota?n south guest: i have. it is a great event. e have upwards of half a million people descend upon the sturges, south

dakota. enthusiasts rcycle to come to south dakota, it is a lot of fun. economically important to south dakota, yes? is, probably it 10% of our jobs in south dakota the tourism industry. it is an as heard of here. many other events like the sturgess rally bring tourists money on lodgeing and food and tourist attractions and hosts.lad to be their we think people who visit south dakota as tourists will find are pretty friendly and they'll enjoy their time here, i'm pretty confident. unusual in your biography, governor daugaard, parents were born deaf. at what point in your childhood

id that occur to you that was unusual? uest: that is a good question, i'm not sure when it donod me they were not hearing or that was different. probably as soon as we were socializing with others. it was different. two hearing sisters and myself, all normal hearing. had another sibling in his family was profoundly deaf, so my wife linda and i were orried i might carry genetic procliffity toward deafness and so we had all three children back in those days there wasn't a way of testing a deafness.fant for allows an nology nstrument to bounce a soundway off and determine if they have normal hearing or not n. those wait until kids were old enough to respond to visual and audible cues and put

in the sound booth with the head phones on to check their hearing. were all three normal hearing. we had a great life. up, ourrs and i growing parents were just great parents had a little inly higher hill to climb in life they e of deafness, but did not let their disability define them. hey were hard working, loving parents and we were very fortunate to have parents like that. host: dennis daugaard, the second term governor of the tate of south dakota and he's been our guest in pierre on the c-span bus. governor. guest: thank you, peter. host: thank our cable partners pierre, midco, for their help up.setting this the c-span bus is outside the state capitol. marked north dakota. now "washington journal" continues.

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the hospital in two or three days. thank you for your love and support. melania trump, 48 underwent embolism procedure, on monday, just after mother's day. told politico it stops a kill a blood vessel or noncancerous growth. one doctor said the procedure follows another procedure and the white house is not released further information condition, rump's that off politico. politico reporting this morning the president, kellyanne conway saying changes to could be taff because of what the trump administration describes as leaks saying the white house expects saying she personal changes in the wake of outburst trump's against leaks that prove administration.

emarks from kelly sadler, responded to john mccain to the haspel and n of gina mccain and has yet to make a public apology and on monday the president wrote coming out of s the white house are massive over exaggeration put out by the fake news media. asked later monday in light of there was personal changes expected. kellyanne conway saying, i do yes, i do. she said she had spoken to the resident about the leaks earlier that day. good morning. caller: good morning. host: you're on. go ahead. caller: what i would love for to know and people the politicians to make how much the s is

ueller probe is costing the taxpayers. host: do you have a figure that heard of? caller: no, that's it. why is it so quiet? millions, is costing so why have we not known how costing us? host: why is the cost important? because it is taxpayer's money. massachusetts, billy is next, democrat's line. calling to ask what he upshot of leaving the iran deal is? blackmail is to something from somebody with money. the money in overseas bank

accounts, essentially blackmailing them into not developing weapons. now iran saying accelerate nrichment of uranium, what is the upspot leading the deal? host: joe from new mexico, this open line on phones. you're next. good morning. caller: okay. country, is what i'm talking about. god is my best friend. all all three persons. family, i've got charles stickler is my brother-in-law and he a conservative to finish money utting the roof on this place

can help you. host: okay. to aaron in st. petersburg, florida, line for democrats. caller: good morning. thank you for c-span. comment today to we ukraine is at war and have 130,000 troops standing up border of ukraine ready to invain ukraine. donald trump is play nothing israel. is clearly divided and i don't know, i'm really concerned russia is going to invade europe through ukraine nothing, but send a few missiles out there, years ago, ut seven when is the world going to wake ukraine by on of russia? host: that is aaron calling on

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set up to agenda, traveling to states anner including iowa and new hampshire works to and speaker of the ouse among others, words of internal tension is getting up around the white house and capitol to circulate on hill. look at the power post section they, "washington post," too, talking about the november election saying that republicans who traveled to ccom count and he detroit suburb, the president won by 12 points after barack obama carry point wice include by 16 necessary 2008 came struck away by the dynamics. helped dan greenberg orchestrate bill clinton victory democrats foragan

three decades. 2016 nt back after the election to understand how trump on in michigan and conducted another round of focus groups. voters complain that there is no respect for the president people like them who voted for him. this is under the headline on precincts comes down to one word, respect for the president himself. "washington post." if you take a look also at the at the ory taking look standings that the president of his has, amongst some supporters saying one of the biggest sources of anxiety in florida e race in focuses on democrats fear nelson rm senator bill is not adequately prepared to scott, inst rick hand-picked by trump. scat and nelson are close early in the poll.

growing alarm about nelson, one of 10 run thanksgiving year in a in 2015, by trump prompted schumer to sound the ago in few months private meeting, pleaded with nelson to step up efforts and manager, which he did not do until march, the ding to those close to conversation. make comments to that and other ssues, as well, in open phones for the next 20 minutes or so. f -- 202-748-8000 for democrats. 202-748-8001 for republicans. for independents. primaries taking place across he united states today n. four states focus on one, pennsylvania and primary process. discussion is the justin ralph with the pittsburgh gazette, political reporter. good morning to you. morning.ood julian ralph. statewide gys, two

race necessary your state alone. one dealing with the center, one senate, one the with the governor. start with the senate, set that up for us. caller: sure. the senate is a race for who is going to take on of the y in front november. you have a favorite here, lou arletta, former hazelton mayor running against jim christiana. a lot of people are already potential of lou up.etta and bob casey match they are telling me it would be trump. referendum on stanch critic in bob casey, ardent ne of the most supporter necessary barletta. ot a lot of interest in the primary f. christiania pulls it to be the ears favorite here. goes on, ou barletta

how is he prepared with money and infrastructure? will face mr. casey, you won't have a lot of interest party officials, state party officials, he will his a lot of money in overs and the familiar name of donald trump, according robo call in this primary and endorsed barletta earlier in the year. they are close to each other. appearanceswill see from the president on the ground in pennsylvania once the general moves on. you have a sitting governor there, tom wolf, democrat there. what are challengers to him? guest: three of them. two who you would consider front-runners, but they have run an ugly race. state senator wagner, who owns trash hauling business. he calls himself the garbage man. retired healthcare consultant paul mango, who sort

on the from nowhere political landscape, they have race.entious analyst told me he had never anything like this. off rd panelist could pull upset. laura elsworth, she calls for lf the other candidate people sick of the back and forth and punch throwing. should be interesting, a lot of telling me governor wolf is laughing at the end because the republicans are up so much. other host: have we seen the president weigh in on the races? we haven't seen the president weigh in on the governor's race, actually it is state party did back scott wagner, which was interesting. weighed dent has only in on the lou barletta race is close with him. that is the only endorsement in the primary.

headline from sacome, , murphy versus could you put context to that? guest: sure. murphy, the ousted ongressman aligned himself since he was -- since he supported th a pack uy reshensaler, rick saccone's primary opponent, he recently lost in the 18th against connor lamb, it got recognition and spilled out into the public here. murphy and rick saccone comments at each other. money supporting saccone's that is about. host: one paper this morning ighlights district in pennsylvania with banner headline, the year of the woman when comes to races today. could you put context of women and significant ones running and significant?

guest: absolutely. we had state supreme court redistricting here in pennsylvania, you saw surge of candidates, for one, a lot were women. unprecedented amount of women for state legislature seats here, something we haven't seen. western part of the state, hasn't linked closely to gender, you have bibiana, who is local usinesswoman, former ford executive who party officials believe could have a shot at after rick saccone, and -- all across the state seeing the legislator in western pa, almost every seat. interesting definitely time. set up mechanics, how long will polls be opened, what is turnout? what has media been like in the primary race? been as rtainly hasn't

haotic as lamb and saccone race. turnout has been low. they were expecting two out of voters to tered participate in this election, not sure if we will hit that so far turn out has been less than they would have imagined. media attention is also light. i went to see lamb vote today in his district in mount lebanon and compared to the 35 people were there from me and a few cameramen here. everything is interesting and we'll see a lot. polls close 8 p.m., couple close rupts, especially race, probablyal keep us up later. that is the day for you. ralph of the post gazette. your time. guest: thank you. jamesback to open phones,

is next. red line, pennsylvania, republican line. yeah, good morning. i voted this morning and i was line waiting to vote was going't find that apparently scott wagner as done something and turned people on. one woman said, i didn't like him personally, but i think he going to do the job. interesting comment. he seems rough and tumble, but going to vote for im, i want change in pennsylvania because the governor seems to be going nowhere. host: what compelled you to vote for him? caller: i think the same reason. i supported trump, but i like what he's done so far. is what scott wagner hammered on, done the ame thing trump has done in

washington. i think the biggest issue that i wagner wants to do away distribute the funds in that particular manner that are lot of folks retired people don't have money to pay taxes, which seem to year.se each that seem to light a fire under some folks. conversation,ting i've never heard people say they didn't like the candidate but voted for him because they think he can do the job. decatur, georgia, independent line. hello. caller: hello, how you doing, c-span? fine, thank you, go ahead. aller: travis jones, better known as everybody in this country. wonder why the oversight on the ormer president is not being exposed? i know well all the republican

midterm. necessary the other thing, the issue with atlanta,-- collapse in georgia, been tortured for the for darn near every day and night every time i go to sleep. i'm wondering why hillary, ll se other entertainers, ool j, oprah winfrey, are not being exposed? mcdonaugh, sahara. host: got you. entertainers, smokey robbinson will appear before 10:00, the ttee topic is copyright when it comes related issues. entertainers giving their perspecti erspective, being the ones at the forefront against smokey obinson, that will be hear og

music creation and copyright in ront of the senate judiciary committee, right after this radio app. on c-span shell lake, clarence, hi. good morning. host: morning. one comment.y have voted years old and i for president trump. i live in shell lake and it is a small community. there wasn't to many walking trump hats when i did. he has proven to be probably a ot better president than most people thought. i mean, he's got a lot of good things going. do now ng i wish he'd would be to try to curb the debt, try to stop it and start paying down on it. i think if he did that 2020, in again.

host: amongst list of accomplishments, what do you put top of this list? caller: besides that? host: exactly. what -- you said a lot of accomplishments, what is top of the list for you? caller: brought the three people home from korea they have been trying to do for a long, long couldn't get it done. i don't know, every time he turns around, he's stunning things he's getting get done.couldn't i'm happy with him and i will vote for him again. host: let's hear from mike, mike stratford, connecticut. caller: hello, get done. perdue. host: hi. bridgeport, ed connecticut policeman. you were speaking how minorities should work in minority train them to nd work in minority neighborhoods. in housing years projects in bridgeport, they had around 1970, just

to get blacks on the department came on because they could relate to minority community. hen they put them in the minority community, they went to federal court saying they are eing discriminated against because they work in the minority community, so maybe they could work maybe two, three months every two years. white.ed 18 years, i'm so as far as saying who could can't, hire the right man for the job. man.ce i said in other words, command presence. there used to be height requi requireme requirements. people by goldman rule. treat them like you would like yourself.ated host: okay, mike in connecticut. democrats.00 for 202-748-8001 for republicans. independents, 202-748-8002.

pete coors, c.e.o. of coors rewing taking a look at the trade issue writes in op ed in "wall street journal," trade war, it is hard to get ahead. he says since january president's tariff talk aluminum prices have risen in the u.s., even for scrap. storage has or doubled and some u.s. allies receive temporary exemption, hurting businesses across the country as leader in business, n beer deeply concerned about possible pull-back and expansion, innovation in the industry. this can't be what president had in mind. miller-coors we expect the president assume the best, we angle?is he working an read more in the "wall street journal." illy up next from mississippi, republican line. mississippi.

caller: yes. host: you are on, go ahead, sir. yes, i was just wondering, they keep saying that president has the authority turn over t o.j. why won't he do it? host: why do you think he won't it? caller: that is what i'm wondering, why won't he order d.o.j. to turn over the documents they are requesting? john is n is next and in georgia, augusta, georgia, line.rat's caller: yeah, listen, i -- just know, there is over 475,000 disabled veterans of georgia alone that have anywhere from seven to years waiting to have their .a. claim looked at to -- for

their payment for disability and service to country. these billions of dollars going to middle east countries v.a. for olved in the veterans and my father's brother obby jones was union president of the v.a. hospital in augusta in columbia, south carolina for years and starting with immy carter, the v.a. system has imploded as far as payment of veterans for service to god country. here is the thing i want to tell you folks. resident trump is going to unleash an economic dynamo the november election and t is going to explode the buying power of millions of americans. what it is. know because he signed two of

them for me, my hat and i know got, how much the federal reserve's got. ran into ryenhart, he was in and i saw general boyd at he jaguar rally and he told me what i know, ladies and gentlemen, donald trump, i told im at the westin hotel in hilton head, march 16 of 2016, mike huckabee ke in south carolina, he is god's planter,because he's a not a chanter, ladies and gentlemen. jim is next, on, independent line. that : yes, i want to say the most important issue in rights of the individual. if that had been discussed campaigne presidential debates, i think our cultural nvironment would be totally

different today. host: what happened in individual rights since then? caller: really, well, i don't see a lot happening toward it. know, there are -- there's -- host: you are saying there is rights ng of individual happening? caller: well, always has been. host: okay. that is jim in washington state. robinson is there, set to testify about this idea f copyright, particularly in the music industry. that hearing just starts in a right after this program. you can watch it as he shakes hands with the chairman and member, one member there. again, see that in a couple minutes. next, tonya, democrat's line. hi. latonya -- on behalf of comment to donald trump. i feel like donald trump shouldn't be in office because racism stuff he

got on his mind. also because if you have any female necessary your family, you shouldn't dog them.es the way he dog the comments he's said about a woman, so someone like that in whoever the president to e in office asa the president, some type of racism going with that, too because he wouldn't be office the way -- donald trump is not a good man, period. latonya in indiana, last call for this program. 7:00 r program starts at tomorrow morning. right now, that hearing set to start in a few minutes in front the senate featuring entertainers, take you to that.