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talk about access to health insurance in rural areas. and tennessee congressman steve cohen will discuss the latest on the one-year anniversary of robert mueller/investing -- robert mueller's russia investigation. host: good morning, it is friday, may 18. the end of the legislative week in washington. before lawmakers go home, a vote is scheduled on a massive multi-your farm bill on the house today. conservative republicans are objecting to having the vote because they are opposed to a group of moderate republicans thewant to protect so-called immigrant dreamers. meanwhile, the president contemplating a trade deal with china in order to move forward with that summit with north korea. and between capitol hill and the white house, some are calling for robert mueller to wrap up his investigation.

all of these stories around the table this morning as we get to your thoughts on this week in washington. democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independent, (202) 748-8002. websitealso go to our and go to twitter at @cspanwj or facebook.com/cspan. good morning. we will get your thoughts in just a minute, but let's begin with the mueller investigation. senate minority leader chuck floor yesterday on the one-year anniversary of robert mueller's probe. [video clip] >> we should all be a guest on this one-year anniversary of mueller's appointment at the smear campaign by the president and his allies. thehould all be a gas that relentless parade of conspiracies manufactured by the most extreme elements of the republican party and conservative media to distract

from the special counsel's investigation. from deep state leaks to unmasking phone taps at trump tower, uranium one, the nunez attempts toare all derail a legitimate and important investigation. now house conservatives are badgering doj officials for classified documents, hunting desperately for any scrap of information that would help them sell he the investigation -- sully the investigation. and by the way, for all of their ranting, raving, and fearing, they do not have a single bit of evidence to support this is a witchhunt, it is unfair, that this is politically motivated. the president and his allies do not quit with all of these conspiracy theories, all of these ridiculous notations,

because they are afraid of what mueller's investigation will reveal. every american who looks at the president of the actions says he is afraid what the mueller investigation will reveal. on the floorchumer yesterday, the minority leader in the senate. the headlines in the papers this morning, the washington post, from joint push to out fbi -- they are waging a aggressive campaign to -- the effort reached new heights thursday after trump learned informant had improperly spied and had016 campaign predicted the ensuing scandal would be bigger than watergate. the president tweeted this "apparently the doj put a spy in the trump campaign. this has never been done before and by any means necessary there out to frame donald trump for crimes he did not commit." the president referring to this story in the new york times

yesterday, on their front page about the fbi's investigation that began in the summer of 2016 into possible russia ties in the trump campaign. assignment, which has not been previously reported, was to me the australian ambassador that had evidence that one of donald trump's advisers had knowledge about russian meddling. brokestralian officials with diplomatic protocol and allowedbout it or -- the ambassador to sit for an interview. a cited the interview and sent two daysashington after the investigation was opened. their report helped provide the foundation for a case that a year ago thursday became the special counsel investigation. at the time, a small group of officials knew it by its codename -- crossfire hurricane. a story you can read there in the new york times this morning. this is from yesterday's newspaper, if you go to their website.

that is one topic we can talk about this morning. the other news on this is the washington times front page. giuliani, the president sees strong limits on question for mr. trump from mr. mueller, narrowing topics for the interview as besides go back and forth about what kind of of thens could be asked president if he sits down with the special counsel. tony in maryland, independent. good morning to you. what are your thoughts? in akron,go to sy, ohio. caller: good morning. forrump is in the news mounting decapitation in four states and endangering minors once again, there is another labor issue which is underreported. mother jones has a past article on a slaughterhouse where the workers are being paralyzed. they have traced it to the

machine which turns the skulls igs into pink slime. the workers are inhaling the and it isblood mist, paralyzing them. in addition, because they are dealing with brain issues of prion tissue, the workers can also get mad pig disease from this. it is an example of the way the trump administration has done nothing about either workers or animals. ryan zinke he and every single republicans editor except isakson voted to murder bear cubs. the 13 republican attorneys general voted to keep -- excuse me, filed lawsuits to keep

chickens in smaller cages and so on. one final point. for those voting in the california primary, dianne was a cosponsor of the animal enterprise terrorism act, which criminalizes videoing slaughterhouses and factory farms. host: ok. ty in maryland, a democrat. what do you make of this week in washington? caller: first of all, i think the mueller investigation should continue and keep going on, because if this was obama and president obama and he had all of these things going on, all of the republicans would have wanted him out of office. i just can't believe how the republicans and the citizens can sit there and here all of these lies that he is saying every single day. trump should have been out of

the white house by now, and to it is indicative of all the lies he keeps saying. you might be interested in the front page of the new york times. impeachment may be an issue for midterms. mr. giuliani sided conversations with the special counsel team, and said mueller intended to follow justice department rules that make president's to indictment while in office. for decades, politically appointed lawyers have argued that the stigma and distraction of being indicted would interfere with the president of the ability to carry out his constitutional powers. from watergate to the impeachment bill of clinton, special counsel have adhered to that entered, leaving it to congress and the voters to punish presidents or forget them for alleged wrongdoing. esther giuliani's account has not been confirmed by mr. mueller's office, but some doubt lingers over it if you make claims on behalf of mr. trump

that later claim into the -- came into question. mr. mueller does not appear to pose a direct legal threat to mr. trump while he is in office. in that, any finding of wrongdoing would refer to congress. viewers can give us your thoughts on that this morning as well. tennessee, a republican. good morning, cal. caller: [inaudible] he better watch his fax, calling someone a liar because he has no fax does not make him a liar second, the mueller is out to get the president no matter what. if i was the president, i would say to his lawyers, i would sue in federal court mueller steam to force him to come to a conclusion and end this witchhunt, which it is. there is nothing wrong with the president has done. nothing. democrats hate facts, they lost

the election and the president is donald trump. host: are you still there? caller: yes. this investigation is closer forced to shut down before it is over, do you have any concerns that a cloud would remain over this president and the administration? for the rest of his term, and when he runs again for 2020. caller: i don't think so. donald trump is doing a fantastic job. the problem is the democrats always want to find some way to push him out. should was obama, which have been impeached [inaudible] the iranian deal that went through, [inaudible] but that's not what happened.

host: ok. inside the washington post, in their story, the headline that the pushing is just the president is pushing for the outing of the fbi informant. the representative notes that mark meadows, a republican from north carolina has been conferring with mr. trump in three or more calls a week, munich hitting concerns that the justice department is hiding worrisome information about the elements of the probe, according to people familiar with their discussions. to discuss this conversation, but says the president has always been consistent in wanting transparency, even when he had no knowledge of what a document might or might not contain, whether it would be good or bad for him. mr. meadows with our guest on newsmakers last week and he discussed with two reporters of the washington voiced -- post , theashington examiner latest effort by republicans like himself and others to request documents from the justice department about the scope of the special counsel

investigation. the latest move is that republicans asked for financial audit of this investigation. the story goes inside the washington post to talk about devin nunes, who is the intelligence chairman but has recused himself on the house intelligence investigation into russia ties into the election. has purposely not been talking the president trump to avoid accusations that he is providing sensitive information to the president. he has been relaying the status of his battle with the justice department to white house counsel donna mcgann. house,the white president trump often complains about the mueller investigation with episodic bouts that can be all encompassing, according to a former administration official. he talks with his advisers about ways he can fight back against what he views as an encroaching pro, and views allies in congress as more credible surrogates.

he has also been encouraged by these allies to go on other news shows and "beat the drum." john kelly has complained to some colleagues about the conversations and other house allies are not always helpful. told theaul ryan has president on several occasions that he should stop talking about the russia probe, according to an official familiar with those conversations. "you are not guilty, don't act like it," ryan would say, and trump would agree, but then trump would go back to venting about the investigation. pat in texas, a democrat. you are on the air. caller: good morning. i was wondering what clinton -- putin has on nunez. why does he keep lying for the trump administration? host: how has he lied? caller: all of the fake memos he has been producing and so forth. donald trump reduces nine lies

every day and no one calls him on it. you listen to the news briefs that that huckabee girl does, and she does not even answer questions. we pay her $150,000 a year to lie to us. and the press just ignores it. host: pat is talking about the white house secretary, sarah sanders. terry in illinois, a republican. caller: hi, are you talking to me? host: we are, good morning. caller: if i was president trump, i would sign the paper and make the release all the documents, because he does not know what is in them? you could be wrong in there, he could be good in their. i would just put everything out on the table. with the democrats and a lot of the republicans, phony republicans, to me and this me, when the fbi, to

they go to work and take a paycheck and do nothing for the citizens. only lining their pockets for campaigns. that is the way i feel about it. and the mueller and fbi and all of the rest of them, to me they are traitors. if i was president trump, i would go ahead and lay everything on the table and let everybody see there was nothing wrong with him, and they are traitors. ok, we got it. bob in texas, a republican. caller: good morning, greta. greta, i was just wanting to make the comment about the media, and i was curious as to whether or not when you read long extensive excerpts from the washington post and new york times if it ever bothers you? the reason i ask that is because this last week or the week before, the washington post wrote an editorial that

basically stated about iran and how the europeans should go ahead and figure out how to boycott and sanction america. they are basically on iran's side, the washington post is, wanting to sanction america, and the new york times with the glee over new york -- i mean, the korean issues about how they are really kind of rooting for kim jong-un rather than the president of the united states. doesn't it bother you do have to read long excerpts from those of these -- both of these obviously biased publications? host: first of all, the host three excerpts from all different types of papers, new york times, washington post, wall street journal, the washington times, etc.. we try to pull in stories we see on websites as well. just to give you an idea of what the decision-makers here in washington are reading when they

wake up. and to let you know what the news cycle is looking like. it is not an endorsement. we are just trying to let you know what people are reading and incorporate it into our conversations that we are having with all of you so we can get your reaction to it. in other stories this morning to put on the table, the debate over immigration, which has now been tangled up in the farm bill, a multi-year bill that deals with farm policy as well as food stamps, etc.. the washington post this morning, gop and trump forced to the table on immigration. they have reopened negotiations over the state of young undocumented immigrants and resurrected border security. uprising, gop moderates, fearful of continued inaction ahead of the midterm elections, used a rarely used legislative maneuver to force

speaker paul ryan and white house officials back to the negotiating table. the overall numbers -- efforts on thursday are about residency for thousands of those left in limbo after president trump cap sold -- canceled the program last year. speaker ryan was asked about this yesterday and -- at his weekly news conference, these efforts about this group of republicans. what -- here is what he had to say. [video clip] >> we are trying to find an immigration bill that had 218 votes. when the courts took away our deadline, the democrats stopped talking to us. we want to see if we can do our own immigration bill. it is clear that we do not have 218 for a specific bill. that is why numbers are trying to figure out how can they get their version of what they think should happen to the floor? we are working in earnest with our members to try and address all of their can earns about immigration reforms.

those are ongoing conversations. is, can we get legislation to the floor that has a chance of making it into law? i think it is futile to bring a discharge through, which would guarantee nothing goes into law. we are trying to work with our members to address their concerns and have a process that could actually get law. host: another wrinkle to this story, the politico headline, gop leaders and freedom caucus face-off on farm bill and immigration. thee gop leaders are daring freedom caucus, led by mark meadows, who we just talked about, our guest for newsmaker last week, to sink their prize partisan farm bill, pushing ahead with the vote despite the stress to take it. paul ryan haggled late into the night thursday to win the far right leaders and giving the group what it originally asked for, the promise of a vote on a conservative immigration bill, eit not until albiet

june. some leadership will run a gun that vow, as they have on the issue in the past. groupn explains to the thursday that they could not do immigration before the farm bill, the group of conservatives held a conference call to discuss what to do. with the boat still scheduled for this morning, it is unclear where things can. gop leaders are waiting for word on whether the freedom caucus will deliver the final votes needed to push the vote over the finish line. president donald trump tweeted about the matter, asserting pressure on the right to get in line. tomorrow, the house will vote on a strong farm bill, including work requirements for food stamps. this requires those seat -- receiving the stamps to find employment. we must support our nation pose a great farmers. the head of the house gaveling in 9:00 a.m. eastern time, an hour earlier, for their legislative is this. we will keep an eye on it this morning

to see what might happen. it is part of our conversation with all of you this morning as we discussed this week in washington. let go to hell and in lake michigan, a democrat. elen in lake, michigan, a democrat. and i: i was listening, do not know why republicans keep talking so badly about democrats. tv,thing is, i was watching i was watching rachel maddow. they were talking about guitar -- qatar. apparently, they wanted to do refused,with qatar and so they come back here and we -- well, trump and his organizations are to saying that they were traders and terrorists , suppliers of terrorists and all that stuff. apparently, when the son-in-law,

went over- kushner there, he wanted money for that 666 building and they refused him. that is when they came back and started calling it a terrorist country and this and that. apparently now, they have funding from a company to qatar. so they are actually paying for that building. and now, qatar is one of our best buddies. it is like pay to play. if people think this is an un-founding investigation by mueller, oh, that hurts my feelings. when you see all of these indictments, you see people claiming guilt for their actions , and this keeps going on and on. yes, it is a witch hunt. donald trump has put a spell on the republicans, because this is insane that these people are not intelligent enough to at least

watch the hearings, watch the things, and determine really the truth. you guys want the truth, not some lies, not some -- i do not want a president in this country like this. host: ok, helen. the story you are referring to is on the front page of the new york times. kushner tower gets a lifeline, the ties to qatar. tony in nebraska, independent. you're next. caller: good morning, thanks for taking my call. i would like to say that donald trump was not my first choice, his --as concerned about his personality might not fit in a president, but i am amazed how much this guy has been able to get done. i am pleasantly surprised with what he has been able to get

even though he gets continually attacked by certain media outlets. tax reform, his reaction to syria, what he has done in this iran thing is great. the economy is incredible. the lowest unemployment we have earlythink since the 1990's, maybe earlier than that, i read a report the other day where our deficit had the best surplus in history. the guy has done a fabulous job. i will vote for him this time. understand whyt the scope of mueller's investigation isn't made public? that only makes sense -- i do not understand why this thing -- we should know what exactly the scope of his investigation is,

point by point by point. once he has covered those points , let's move on. it is a total distraction. he should not have the ability worldtinue to have this like an amoeba. host: and if you missed it, go listen to our newsmakers interview with mark meadows, who agrees with you. late in his argument in the interview -- he states his argument in that interview, and you can find it there. haspel has been confirmed as the first female director of the cia. the vote was 54-45. republican john mccain was absent. we will go to george in florida, a republican. good morning. caller: hello, greta, and you really look fabulous today. nice, and is visually

that is a respectful comment. want to calldo not it a witchhunt. i do not know if it is a pro, an investigation, i hear different words used all the time. should trump that just dismiss it before the probe is over? when is the exit strategy? i know the man for the brass cap -- from nebraska just covered it pretty good, and you told the audience you can go to c-span and see this interview. i will do that. when is the exit strategy? i remember the war with bush, when is the exit strategy? when is always asks this exit? is it going to go over eight years? what is this guy doing? is he doing anything? one man was talking about the taxes that we pay.

i am actually a taxpayer, one of the few victims of progressive taxation, and i do not want to pay mueller for this long, drawn out nonsense. i will cut my statement short. when is the exit strategy, perhaps other callers could inform me of that. thank you for taking my call. host: you might be interested in this eight piece story. mueller investigation enters second year. where is it headed? one year ago thursday robert mueller was appointed special counsel to take over the justice department investigation into possible coordination between 'sssia and donald trump 2016 political campaign. resulted in indictments, tense court appearances, angry tweets from the president, and speculation over what muller already knows. there is no doubt it is far-reaching, but at its core,

prosecutors have been made focused on central questions -- did the trump campaign collude with the kremlin to tip the election in the candidates favor? has trump tried to instruct the investigation -- obstruct the investigation after taking office, including firing james comey and badgering jeff sessions over his recusal. far?as been questioned so a who's who of white house officials and businessmen, and cap transition staffers. that is ap, you can look that up for more. there is a story related to that in the washington journal this morning. manafort's ex son-in-law is cooperating, he plead guilty and is cooperating with the special counsel. a former son-in-law of president trump's ex campaign chairman pleaded guilty and is cooperating with federal

investigation. he pleaded guilty to conspiracy in the central district of california relating to real estate loans on properties in new york and california. he invested with mr. manafort on real estate deals and oath states according to public record. trialnafort faces two stemming from the special s investigation, the first is set to begin in july. he has pleaded not guilty to charges, including bank and tax fraud. a spokesperson declined to comment. mark in california, independent. hi mark. caller: good morning, thank you for taking my call. you know, the way i look at it, there has already been proven that there has been collusion. the way that fox news and the republicans are acting is that oh, it is ok that, if we talk to

the russians, the germans, whoever. no, it is not ok. you cannot talk to foreign governments about anything. how great ae sensation it is going to be. you take it to the fbi, you take it to your lawyers, and you have them take it to the fbi. they are just trying to throw whatever will stick on the wall and you know, they think that is ok, but it is not ok. mueller has one job, and he is doing it. think thatlicans they are going to get over it and tell all these lies, but they are not. -- s is ♪

it is really stupid to think that they are really getting over it. thank you very much. host: leroy in north carolina, democrat. hello. caller: thank you for having my call. i do not understand [inaudible] in the hole like president obama did, i can brag on it, but he didn't. he had a point to start off of. you can do pretty good from there. so i don't think they should be fighting about that. as we got on the line, that is what i want to see. divorce mr. trump back. he came out of the gate shooting people. out of the gate. he has been shooting at people. when people shoot back, you think you would expect that. see he is whati he is. he is no great president, that is a fallacy.

thank you. in north carolina, republican. what do you think about what has happened in washington this week? caller: this week, the son-in-law of manafort is cooperating. what does this have to do with russia collusion? it looks as though the mueller him going after as many people as he can, and basically extorting them or blackmailing them with threats of indictments in order to go after the president. he is going after people with totally unrelated issues, which you could probably find all throughout government. wide, and yeto maybe he will come out with it in the end. but we have not heard much about his objections to the use of a

concocted dossier to obtain fisa warrants, which was the basis of his ability to gather data in some areas. so it is just one of the many ironies you see from the left. known violations from one side are totally ignored and they are digging like crazy for totally unrelated violation in order to get people to testify against the president. and one other point i wanted to make about immigration. host: ok. caller: if you listened arguments or positions from the left, you cannot hear one that is not consistent with having no borders at all. they do not seem to know the difference between legal versus illegal crossing of the border. it does not really matter, it legal versus illegal. that should indicate something. host: david in north carolina.

on foreign policy, trump says talks with kim are at risk. president donald trump and knowledge new doubts about the state of his coming meeting with north korean leader kim jong-il, expressing surprise over the uptick in hearts like from pyongyang lost shifting blame to china for the latest uncertainty. president sought to entice mr. kim to the negotiating table by offering a political safeguard with a fresh round of threats. mr. trump speaking in the oval office on thursday said mr. kim could remain in power if they could reach a deal to rid the north of nuclear weapons. this is what the president had to say. [video clip] atthe model, if you look that model with gaddafi, that was a total decimation. we went in there to beat him. that model of take place if we do not make a deal, most likely. if we make a deal, i think kim jong-un is going to be very, very happy. i believe that he is really going to be very happy. but this is just the opposite.

and john bolton made that statement, and he was talking about if we are going to be having a problem. we cannot let that country have nukes. we just can't do it. that is the way he meant. syria, thatook at was a total decimation. >> what security guarantees are you willing to -- >> we are willing to do a lot and he is willing to do a lot also, and i think we will have a good relationship, assuming we have the meeting and assuming something comes of it. he will get protections that will be very strong. syria never had protections. if you look at syria, or if you look at anywhere around the middle east, you look at iraq, libya, with libya, certainly they did not have protection. they had exact opposite. that was absolute decimation and that is what we planned to do and that is what we did. president in the oval office yesterday, meeting with

the nato secretary-general in the oval office and responding to reporters questions. it is missing libya model, trump may have confused its meaning. some nuclear security experts said trump undermined his goal of reassuring can by appearing to confuse emboldens meeting about libya and in doing so, issuing a veiled threat to pyongyang. bolton said in recent weeks that the libya model would require north korea to fully abandon its nuclear program before the united a would offer reciprocal benefits that occurred in the deal, but trump seems focused on the overthrow of gaddafi years later, an outcome that has led to a power backing and widespread chaos in libya. cameof his remarks, which in the oval office, suggested that bolton meant the fracturing of libya after 2011 was what would happen to north korea if kim does not break a deal. the best thing he could do to make a deal, trump set of cam, the libya model is what will take place if we don't make a deal.

david in georgia, independent. good morning. caller: good morning, and thank you for washington journal. my comments are about [inaudible] i watched the first 15 minutes in the morning, because that is when they highlight the stories. it is interesting they are giving themselves a reprieve today by covering the eve of the royal wedding and not even putting anything about what is going on in our nation. i do watch a little bit of fox news at night, and i go back and forth, because i want to have a fair opinion here. you just have to see it. this investigation was based on a lie to fisa judges, and it going tover have been the special counsel in the first place. has [inaudible]

they are trying to trump up and get out everything really fast before the ig's report is finally out and all the information becomes public. is not going to be good, it is not going to be good. my fear is -- i have been a conservative ever since i had to sit here in georgia my senior year in high school, i was on a debate team with a lady, a girl toour class who is related jimmy carter, so she could not even be part of the debate, but i had to debate the other side. i got not pretty, but interested in politics than in the first year i could vote. so what i am seeing with the -- isr investigation is i it was illegal in the first place. trump is back in a corner and can't stop it, because then it would make it look like he is

trying to hide something. this president has accomplished more -- and i was a never trump are, trust me. this president has accomplished more in this sort time -- short time he has been in office since 1976 at least. host: and his on veterans affairs health care in usa today, funds running out in the program that one million rely on for health care. more than one million veterans annually rely on this program to get private sector medical care at v.a. expense. the program is set to run out of funding in two weeks. populous states with large veteran populations, like texas, california, florida, and arizona , not the highest numbers of veterans that have used the choice program that was created in 2014 while veterans died waiting for medicare in a rural va hospital. other states showed higher percentages of their veterans relied on choice, which allowed veterans to get v.a. funded health care in the private sector if they have to wait

longer than 30 days for aba appointment or live more than 40 miles from a the a health care health carethe v.a. facility. passed legislation wednesday that would make the program permanent and provide the necessary funding, and the senate could take the measure of next week. by the way, the president yesterday donating his quarterly 2018 to the v.a.. there is a headline in politico. let's go to rob in plattsburgh, new york. caller: how is it going? host: good morning to you. caller: yes, i'm a republican, and i have been listening to this since i started in 2016. the problem is these democrats just can't it over being defeated throughout the presidency. they should have picked a better candidate than hillary clinton. my concern is this president has

done more for this country in the short time he has been in office then the last three in the lastas done three presidents, going back to george w. bush. i am very sad to see this country and the way it is going with the democrats. they need to get back together. they need to straighten up their party and they need to get off the trump trying to sabotage his presidency, because there is nothing there. is not why it mueller prosecuting the president and is not going anywhere like that. i'm getting sick of this and so is everybody else. put it to rest. ok.: i will pick up on your comments about the democratic party into they picked for their nominee in 2016. hear from the new york times, plan to make superdelegates a lot less super. the most significant and divisive step from the democratic party would involve reducing the role of power for superdelegates to back any

candidate ahead of the 2020 election. the influence caused stand dental tension two years ago when supporters of mr. sanders zeroed in on superdelegates as undemocratic. they said they created an unfair and even rigged system favoring mrs. clinton. party officials, including loyalists held over from boca sanders and clinton camps, are inching toward a compromise that would not only minimize the role of superdelegates, but change the operational structure as well. the ideas on the table range from a limited -- eliminating superdelegates altogether to reducing their numbers significantly. from more than 700 to 280. some officials say they would prefer a proposal in only elected officials and not party leaders retain superdelegate status. a final agreement could be completed in late august as party officials try to get their house in order and suppress talk of a continuing divide in the democratic national committee. the rules committee will take of

each issue in public forums held throughout the summer. the committee members, of collection of local and national members burst in party logistics are responsible for drafting specific reform language, which will later be presented to the full body of committee members for a final vote. the plan is to have the process completed in time for the dnc summer meetings in chicago in august, according to his committee -- a committee spokesperson. eric in kentucky, a democrat. good morning. caller: how are you doing this morning? i am just continuously amazed by the denial of republicans. trump and his supporters, along with this being a witch hunt. the hillary clinton benghazi, that was a witch hunt. that was an investigation in

search of a crime. fbi already knew there were crimes committed. this is an investigation into the extent. and the people involved. when everybody around trump and including trump himself have spreading lies, all of them revolving around rush -- caught in lies, all of them revolving around russia, russian contact, russian influence, i find it , whong that these people view themselves as the law and order party, will sit here and dismiss so much clear evidence of something going on. even if you do not believe that trump is guilty of collusion, there is just a lot of stuff going on that is hard to ignore. eric, the wall street journal, the headline inside the newspaper, trump claims f e i

spied on his campaign. -- the fbi spied on his campaign. former fbi officials said there would be a high bar for using officials in a probe involving a presidential campaign. are even stricter rules on planting an informant in an organization's edge as a campaign. that would be highly unusual and require approval from the highest echelons of the justice department. frommployees are barred using their official authority to interfere with election outcomes. used fors can only be law enforcement or foreign , said david reasons chris, former head of the justice department national security division. any political use "is flatly prohibited." barbara in kentucky, republican. caller: thank you for taking my call. the man, the other guy from very --, i am a very,

i'm getting very upset with all of this that is going on. all of the people that are watching, all of the other stations and everything, they need to get the real news. they need to go to fox news for sure. starting with the doj, fbi, and thankfully loretta lynch. -- now, the true facts are going to there will be a lot of people with egg on their face. that is for sure. the democrats talking about the werehere, the democrats going to build the wall until trump wanted the wall, and now -- what is going on?

the democrats are trying to break everything at every corner. billy next in florida, democrat. caller: hi. it is amazing., i am proud of voting for hillary clinton to be the next president of the united states. that thee no idea wasians or anybody else , and he isoots tearing down all of our institutions of justice. [inaudible] since i was 13 years old, and i have never in my life seen

anything like this. america isstates of .o more after the 2016 election this guy is making a total joke .f our nation this is totally nonsense. can putt that this guy down the press, put down the fbi, although we have all of americans in jail for crimes brought against them by the justice department? are we going to let everybody out because the justice department is corrupt? that is totally stupid. tom, flirt lauderdale,

republican. good morning -- tom, fort lauderdale, republican. good morning. caller: i want to put down my shield and spear for a moment and talk about something all americans should be proud of or concerned about, and that is education. downress really is letting america by not reporting on just how bad our education system is. i do not mean that as a put down, i mean that as an evolutionary problem. how did we get where we are in our education system? i have people, i have rents you are teachers, i have acquaintances that are teachers, and i have teachers that i just meet on the social scene. and i ask them questions about what they are encountering in

the education system. is thing that shocked me that time and time again, i asked these teachers what percent of your class, you are graduating class do you feel like is prepared for today's world and to be successful? just take a guess. it is 10%. time and time again. students entering the workforce that can't add, can't read, can't write, can't communicate effectively. does anybody really pick up on that? do they figure out what the heck is going on? because we had testing, because we had grading of schools, because we had this and that that people have tackled this problem.

but over the past 10 years, it has gotten worse and worse and worse. this is a catastrophe, and the press is letting america down by not investigating this and figuring out what the heck is going on. sot: i will leave it there we can get in some other voices, but also let all of you know about what is happening in washington today as they wrap up their legislative week. right now, the house leaders have scheduled a vote on a multi-year farm bill that would authorize programming for food stamps for crop insurance and so on. the debate is scheduled to take place, but there is some internal conflict in the republican party between moderate republicans and conservative republicans over whether or not this vote should take place because of the debate over immigration. unless there is also argument in this bill between republicans and democrats over food stamps.

here is democratic congresswoman terri sue well on the house floor thursday, talking about the changes to the food assistance program known as snap. [video clip] of thise in opposition cruel and mean spirited farm bill, which will lead working families and our children -- leave working families and our children out in the cold. snap,uts $23 billion from the supplemental to tristan -- supplemental nutrition assistance program. mr. speaker, i represent rural and i can say definitely that every community in my district will be worse off under this bill. for children and working families in my district, snap means the difference between a hot meal or going to bed hungry. for farmers and grocery stores, snap is an investment in our food system that creates 50,000 agricultural jobs across the

country. after the republicans have shoved down a tax bill that gives cuts to the wealthiest americans and adds $2 trillion to our deficit, they now wants to cut the benefits for hungry children and working families. i believe this is morally wrong. the fate of snap in my district is not the welfare mothers trying to get over, the fate of snap in my district, where 70 5% of the people that are beneficiaries our children. they have children under 17 years old. the face of snap in america are needy children. we must and can do better. i will vote no and i urge my colleagues to do the same. host: a glimpse of this debate over the farm bill, which could see a vote today. also coming up, we will be talking to two members of congress about issues and we will ask them about this vote over the farm bill and what is the latest on the debate over immigration.

some stories this morning in the papers on trade. the u.s. way deal on chinese trade before key talks, trying to close a gap. areese negotiators preparing to offer the trump administration a deal to buy up to $200 billion worth of american goods, which would allow mr. trump to claim victory that his campaign, in his campaign to reduce the trade deficit with china and rebalance american trade relations. notehey say economists that there are structural hurdles in china to buying more american exports and the sheer amount of goods the united it would have to produce to meet beijing's demand. under the deal being discussed. buyiscussed, china would more agricultural products, like soybeans, semi conductors, and natural gas. this would reduce the trade deficit with the united states, which hit $32.5 billion last year. billion last year, by

a $200 billion. tradeent trump's chief said thursday that they -- nowhere near and a deal no were near a deal on the north american free trade agreement. all three nafta countries have sought to wrap up the deal before the height of the u.s. midterm season and before mexico's presidential election on july 1. mr. ryan, who had originally set thursday may 17 as a deadline, offered mr. light either -- robert lighthizer and his counterparts more time to reach a deal. that is the latest on nafta. and then macron and merkel back on a run. the german chancellor ruled out actions that can put the european union and the u.s. in a trade war over iran sanctions.

that story is in the papers this morning. and also in the new york times, new york sanction -- sanctions could benefit russia and china. the unintended consequences of squeezing iran and venezuela. venezuela has an election coming up, and the leader of that country, which leaders of this administration and lawmakers in washington say needs to go. mr. majerus is expected to win sunday's election. if so, the trump administration is running more economic sanctions against the country. that means the price of oil could go up. the financial times this morning, the oil hits four-year high on fears over supply from iran and venezuela. that is the papers this morning as well. ezekiel in texas, a democrat. good morning. caller: good morning. can you hear me? >> we can, go ahead. >> yes, i have a question. i am a problem solve, and when

we have a problem, you try to find a solution for it, right? my question is, what is our government doing to prevent the next -- in other words, another from -- host: we are listening. caller: trying to interfere with our election? the republicans are kind of afraid, they went with donald trump. do they have something already set up as the next series of elections? i have no idea. what are we doing about that as a government? host: tony in delaware, independents. good morning, we are taking your thoughts this morning on washington this week. washington this week -- it seems like from the democrat party, they will not be happy until americo resembles the same

exact kind of place that millions in china flee, the same type of government and dysfunction. here inwhat they want america and it is pretty sad. on the snap situation, i thought america was founded for people to stand up and do for themselves. we cannot have unfettered immigration and social programs and all of this money just going out. we need the church is to take up and private sector businesses to feed the hungry. it is not the government's job to feed the hungry. ands their job to defend us maintain roads and bridges and infrastructure, and law and order. that is pretty much it. not to feed everybody and give everybody a house. host: byron, tennessee, republican. caller: yes. what is happening right before our eyes, we have a conspiracy to overthrow the government of the united dates of america. that theed to be aware

democrats have embraced socialism and they want to make countries,e other like venezuela and these other countries that are having so many problems. people need to be aware of that. for me, it is a clear attempt to overthrow the government. i think a lot of these people in the justice department, the fbi, heavilyd to be prosecuted for their actions, for their assist in the democratic party to overthrow the government. host: a couple of other ebolanes, alarm grows as is confirmed in congo, a city of 1.2 million. ebola is much harder to contain in urban areas, so this development compounds the risk of a contagion. given the sign of worsening outbreaks, the centers for

disease control and prevention deploy tong a team to congo as the who continues to survey its needs and supporting experts into the region. and rudy giuliani, the president of the lawyer was on cnn this morning. the hill newspaper reporting on that interview. we do not know for caller: hello. i keep all these republicans theing in to see how much president has done for this country. the only thing he has done is as a tax cut bill. not throughlse is legislation. he has hired all of these people to head the epa did everything the government off. where is their conservatism? to $2ax cut is going

billion to our deficit. publicans are going to go after social security and medicare and medicaid to pay for this hill. all these people in the deep south that voted for trump are going to be the ones who get hurt by this. john, good morning. caller: good morning. host: go ahead with your comments. caller: i think maybe the mafiaats are one big as thewith hillary queen. they will do everything in their power to get power back. host: we are going to take a short break. the bill to back, improve rural health care. to talk aboutts of the year anniversary mueller investigation.

week, a visit to selma, alabama. we explored the past and present of a city most known for its role in the civil rights movement. >> selma is located in the heart of the black belt with central alabama. infamouswn for the bloody sunday march. that grew over the months and years. they were not looking to make a name for themselves. they were just simply doing what they believed was right at the time. selma is unique. we contributed to american history. we gave birth to the real meaning of democracy to this nation.

i wish all of that was filmed here in selma. but i think it was a win for the city of selma. part of terrorism. people see the film and then come here to take part in history. people come all across the world to walk across that bridge. , tothing we are working on capture that tourism. busloads of people come in every day. iten the challenges we have is hard to capture all of the tourism. one thing they say is history cannot be manufactured. we are known for our history that we are trying to create a city or we can be known for our future treat it is when you take younger mines being part of the creation of such a city. reach ouring to

history with the future. whather city and offer selma has to offer. that is what we are working on. at our table this morning, jeff fortenberry, republican of nebraska. he is a member of the appropriations committee. you have introduced the rural health insurance act. what is it? guest: one of the things we're struggling with across the country is the need for health care repair. in the rural communities, many of which i represent, one health care provider can people being priced out of individual insurance market affecting millions. former rights -- a farmer writes property taxes

are x, but he is having to pay $40,000 for premiums by with deductible, it can't be done. people are facing these perfect choices. simply because they need the health care benefits. in some cases people are just shifting the cost to the government by going on medicaid. a better provide atmosphere in rural communities where there is more health care affordable health care choice, is the purpose of the bill. i'm happy to say the contents of the bill are embedded in the farm bill as a component of the entire farm bill. we are there to subsidize qualified agora for -- agricultural associations to form their own risk pool.

people who have access to government insurance can pay the people in rural payingare rates that cannot be affordable. resources, role development spree we feel the need to fix the market allowing new types of associations to form that would help bring about new insurance products and substantially reduced costs. host: how much money do you want to spend? guest: that is not the right framework. host: but you said subsidizing. guest: it is subsidizing for right groups.

everybody shares the risk. when you are on your own are not part of a group. rates are astronomically high and it is causing great duress and harm. minimal is to take amount of money and subsidize risk pools. qualified agricultural associations sells seed and health insurance as well. these are hard to start. there's a lot of risk to them. there is a role for public policy, a public subsidy to stimulate this part of the market. choices for health insurance into the marketplace and substantially lower cost. to stop the disruption happening to farm families. host: 65 million in loans and grant. i don't know anyone at the

department aquaculture knows about starting and maintaining a successful insurance company. this is from sabrina. >> i'm a graduate of georgetown. m sorry sabrina thinks it is ok to pay $40,000 for health insurance. i think he can be easily fixed. host: what are the prospects of getting this farm bill passed on the floor today when we have this side conversation going on between republicans and conservatives over immigration? >> i don't know the answer to that. immigration is a separate issue. we have to work hard to get it right and transcend the political divide. host: do you belong to the

freedom caucus? guest: no. host: they say we want to vote on a conservative immigration bill. there is a threat that still remains we will not allow a vote on the farm bill today if they do not let a vote first on a conservative immigration bill. host: you have worked here a long time. things can shift minute by minute. it is early in the morning. i do not have a good feel yet for those dynamics. i was suggest any member of try and force or pressure the system to see things their way. in my perspective having a robust farm bill that provides farmersigation tools to so we can have successful food policy combined with an important nutrition policy is essential public policy, and it is done every five years.

a lot of times we have got this through with partisan divide. not a partisan divide per se but there are thedes that is creating possibility of shifts. i don't think that will happen. vote bute will get a things can shift rapidly. 5 one reporter she says the votes are there for multiple immigration bills. key among the changes to immigration legislation, he and will heard want to bring to the borderppropriations for security. you on this?

do you agree with the more conservative approach? or are you with another group of republicans saying we need to protect these dreamers who purchase a paid it action childhood arrivals program? don't likething i about washington and these types of interviews is you are always trying to categorize everyone. this group or another. we're going to take calls from democrats and republicans. we are americans. we don't identify by political party. same thing on immigration. you cannot -- america's beloyers -- impulse is to charitable. we have had an orderly .mmigration system they have stood in line and values andmbrace the

have come here and worked hard to better themselves. that is our story as a people. charity cannot flow out of chaos. when you have a border situation is not under control have to have more robust enforcement where is is not fair for people trying to come here legally. what caused this in the first place? economic migration with arerupulous employers who willing to exploit vulnerable people also have to be a part of any immigration deal. third is humanitarian exceptions . in one of the bills it accommodates people for daca kids but it has to be combined with the robust border security so we don't have this circumstance. there is a fourth consideration. foreign-policy considerations. andinvolved in state

foreign appropriations. we try to bring about economic opportunity there as well as reforms and governance. that create space of people are not compelled to flee. these are all components that have to be part of a proper framework. it sounds like you would support this idea of queen of the hill. legislation goes to the floor and democrats and republicans are able to offer amendments like you have described and you vote yes or no. guest: that is one option that is sitting out there. arederstand people there different than mine. will heard has different type of concerns along the border than i have. everything appeared tries to force you in a box.

host: what about the drive of jobs for laborers in this country? has anl street journal opinion piece, exporting jobs instead of food. in nebraska?saying what do you think of the numbers they are reporting? >> in nebraska, the backbone of who we are economically and culturally is centered in production agriculture. is a wonderful place to live. the epicenter of the football universe. our culture and values are deeply informed by the farm experience. at the same time we have also expanded farm options so that new entrepreneurs who want to do specialized farming, who have

farmed from food directly to the table create new dynamics for reconnecting the rules. when never a part of what you ask me as something called the adverse wage rate. it is a bizarre thing given over to the department of labor that forces nebraskans to pay higher wages because we are grouped with states like north dakota whose wage rights are higher because they have more oil production. coming out ofis washington harms our ability to be entrepreneurial and pay what would be reasonable. there are a lot of economic dislocations that can occur. somein some cases and in

value added chained part of agriculture, there is a need for a significant labor force. host: more mexicans left the u.s. then came in -- many farmers who came through have aged out. it also says that an increasing number of farmers are turning to these as for guest workers. guest: a company who cannot find workers to help them on the farm can apply to this program. it is all legally set up. if you're going to have movement of labor, this is the right way to do it. it cannot be so high that it pushes americans who need work out of the workforce.

need to work on the farm. traditionally it has been done through organized mechanisms. we have had difficulty at the border. activity with employers paying cash. this has to stop. host: we will go to our first phone call. allen in illinois. caller: good morning. glad you are taking my call. i have always consider the united states a balance between capitalism and socialism. i'm in favor of a single-payer situation. i get confused when people talk about health care. when i think of health care i think of hospitals and doctors and nurses. will your bill keep those things in mind or is this a way to sell health insurance?

health insurance is referred to as health care also. host: yes. guest: i think it is a great point. first of all. we co-mingle these terms. health care is different than health insurance. insurance is frankly a phenomenal mechanism by which we all pay little bit. if something happens it is covered. most people don't get very sick. some do. i have a sick child. we have run up significant bills. i have been fortunate to have access to good health insurance prior to congress, and now being on a government plan. some don't. some people are getting subsidies directly from the government for their insurance. or onork for corporations medicare or get health care through the v.a. we have a spectrum. what i am talking about is a narrower part of the

individualin insurance market. because they are a farmer or rancher, or an individual, they are not able to get the same rates a big corporation gets or the government gets. there is simply not a pool. what my bill does is takes a subsidy and helps people start risk pools so they can share comerisk, their costs can down and they are not unfairly treated by the marketplace. that is a part of health care i am talking about. health insurance and a broken part of the health insurance market. when you have people not having access to health insurance, they go there and they are not protected by something that catastrophic that could happen. that leaves a lot of anxiety in foreign countries but throughout the country. this is an attempt to 61 segment of the health insurance market

that is severely broken but it making sureed with people have resources to protect themselves. host: hello peter. good morning. caller: good morning. what i'm curious about is the of -- [indiscernible] you have billionaires and multimillionaires. why are there not warned buffett hospitals, why are there not jeff baze owes nonprofit housing ? do they not see the homelessness? do they not see the bankruptcies from medical care? do they have no concern over that? to normal christian like people,

it is hard to understand what is 90-year-old these men acquiring, accumulating, and conserving this massive, massive wealth. did peter said he was from canada? he probably speaks french. frankly, a rightful concept. those who have been gifted by many resources have an obligation to help those who are lesser than. people who have been gifted for extraordinary resources assume an obligation because they have been cast into leadership positions in the country. i do have a problem as long as we are not just simply shifting resources from somebody who earned them. the obligation for people in

leadership positions including economic positions, one of them ,ives 50 miles away from me nonetheless it is a real concept. i will share something with you that i think is related to the point. -- ave a the a hospital in va hospital that has been due for an update. our veterans deserve the best possible care. because the system has had such problems building out new facilities the community obama hall including the people who use referenced came to a group of us and said look, we want to put up funds to get this moving. the federal government is not going to get there for many years. we formed a partnership. it allow this opportunity to happen. put upmunity obama hall

lots of money to match the federal government and give that are in services and a new hospital built out in a quicker fashion than the government could do on its own. it is something we are proud of back home. host: we will go to rhode island. go ahead. all of the first world countries why do we not have universal health care like all of the other first world countries if we are not the leader of first world countries? a debate in our philosophical debate going on in this country about how to best provide health care, how to create the space for innovation and entrepreneurship, and how to keep costs down. my philosophy is we have to do three things.

reform and protect vulnerable persons. lower costs, improve outcomes. seee is a problem -- i can the dump of the capital out here. we think more money plus good intentions means proper outcomes. that is not always the case. we are running up huge amounts of health care expenditures. are we improving outcomes? a lot of we think more money is going to solve things. we have had a different philosophy than other countries. careend more on health than other places. we want to leave a space for innovations rather than just parking the direction for health care in this building. that is the debate. some people believe it ought to be here in the government ought to make those decisions. others believe that is quite a take away the entrepreneurial space and lower costs with improved outcomes.

you lead the world in innovation. that is because we have entrepreneurial spirit and certain competitive in that competitiveness in that space. tension that the american impulse is to care for those who may be sick or are invulnerable spaces. that is why we have a spectrum for those who are veterans, for those who are have reduced income. we have set up some mechanisms to protect society from the harshness of trends. there is a segment left in the marketplace as well. i am trying to provide a corrective public policy to help the number of americans paying astronomical rates. ont: what are the numbers farmers going bankrupt on health care costs? guest: i did read something interesting recently.

placesta is one of the that has the best health care , andmes and lower cost farm families have traditionally been a part of that group. they have had lower divorce rates than the rest of society. divorce rates are spiking among farm families. there is a correlation to this health care crisis. if you think of a foreign operation, the stress of health care dynamics, one spouse has to go to try and provide this benefit and go into a job they do despite this is important.

-- they want to do. this is important. caller: my problem, with the farm bill and all this, when they say we are taking food away from children, what makes me theseis this country has men who call themselves men who fathered these children don't take care of them. the government has to crack down on it and make them work. put them in the field and make them pick the fruit. if you're going to other children the amman. i'm 74 years old. married, we had two children. i provided for them in her. she stayed home and i want to jobs. i'm still working at 74. this country has gone crazy with

these giveaway programs. 27 of them come out of social security which has run rampant with disability claims. host: let's have the congressman respond. this is one of the debates on this farm bill. work requirements. how exactly is the proposal written? guest: here is the underlying philosophical debate. let me try to reconstruct what was just said. a time now where we have a surging economy. 6 million unfilled jobs. we have up pressure on wages and that is a good thing. we have had downward wages. the fullness of the answer to that is not just an economic terms. helps them anomy person cannot find access to not and meaningful work, it

only abstract -- put stress on their family because of income problems but it of faults human dignity. people find community being able to do something and making things, and receiving joy from the fruit of that labor. snap, itnment program, is there and it is important and i'm supportive of it because that is who we are as americans. we have a humanitarian impulse. most food stamp recipients are on the program for nine months. a proper role of being a transition mechanism. when a person or family hits a rough patch because of unemployment this program is there to help get them through to smooth the waters. when you have 6 million jobs

open, when you have a number of now is theidelined, time where we can seize the moment and fulfill the full mission of the program and plow back into education and workforce training to make that transition smoother, quicker and successful. host: it is also talking about giving folks training and education. work requirements are already here. they have just been waived a lot. that is the debate. i just had one question about all of this health care stuff we have had, all these debates and discussions. i have never heard the word , that thec oath doctors have to take. whatever happened to that? i will let you answer that. host: final thoughts?

, ist: when i was a junior was going to go to college for med school. i will this way. i think medicine has an important leadership role to play. the doctors i know are expending forselves to try to care the people that come under their service. our system now is built around churning more and more money. look at hospitals across the country. of them have cranes because they are expanding and building. we have an important debate going on. the community has to provide leadership that helps improve outcomes while we reduce costs and protect vulnerable persons. host: thank you very much for

the conversation this morning. glad you could be here. we are going to take a short break when we come back. speak with a member of the judiciary committee. we will talk about the mueller investigation.

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>> washington journal continues. att: congressman steve cohen our table talking about the mueller investigation. thanks for being here. i want to begin with our guest yesterday, this is what he had to say about the mueller investigation. job,am sure if you have a your employer expects you to get certain work done or that employer is going to find someone who can do that work. that is what i want out of special prosecutors. i do want these things going on for years and years when you are talking in the criminal setting. two years ought to be plenty of time to print -- conduct a proper investigation and come up with a proper conclusion, and warns for arrests. get the arrest warrants, get the indictments. then begin the in court prosecution. ongoingan investigation

that is plenty of time for a prosecutor to do his job. let me emphasize one point. i'm calling for the end of the mueller special counsel investigative phase. if there is other criminal activity that is uncovered prosecute that in the normal course of within the justice department using fbi agents. i'm not saying look the other way. do the normal course. robert was appointed special counsel. russians alleged interference and alledge trump collusion with the russians with respect to that interference. things in ample court of law to prove or disprove. i would hope if you can find yourself to those items and

canstigator worth his salt reach a proper conclusion. host: your reaction? the president has called for a wine down. -- winds down. want theey investigation to end because they do not want to find out any more than has been found out. we do not know everything they had -- that he has found out. he has gotten several guilty pleas. one person already sentence. we know there is more in the works. that is going to happen. winding up his investigation but needs talk to

the president. he needs to talk to the president son-in-law, the disposable one. he probably needs to talk to his daughter, and maybe a few others. you can't just say one year, two years. you don't know how broad this is. you can't just put a time limit on it. we haven't found osama bin laden into year so let's quit. sometime it is difficult to get all the pieces together. robert mueller is one of the greatest people in our country's history. he is a man who has been at the justice department, a prosecutor dedicated to public service. the second longest-serving fbi director. pre-appointed by barack obama. what a good house keeping seal of approval. they put you in charge of the fbi for 10 years.

then he served in vietnam. was injured, had a purple heart and other awards. hailed by his men as a leader in vietnam, risking his life to save others. this is a heroic man. he does this job, everybody says he is a professional. he goes by the book. he is thorough. america and mo brooks and rudy giuliani and all the others ought to sit back and say robert mueller, a republican is a fine man. we trust him. knowhe american public what went on. if there was collusion let us know. go back before robert mueller was tapped to become the special counsel on the fbi began their investigation. the new york times had more details on this. 2016, agents were sent to london to interview the

on august ambassador 2 two days after an investigation was opened looking into possible ties between the trump campaign and the russians. do you have any concerns as a member of the judiciary department the f e i opened this type of investigation. guest: none whatsoever. they had information through papadopoulos that he had talked to this australian diplomat. it was about the russians interfering in our election. if there is probable cause the interferere trying to , it is the job of the fbi. you don't turn your back. all of this, they went to the

pfizer court, didn't have enough information, that it depended on the steel dossier, this shows what was said then. ofs was started because papadopoulos statements. this was not the steel dossier. it was the papadopoulos statements that got the warns started that is why they went to australia. understandable and commendable. what happened was an aberration in democracy. what we are experiencing is a real aberration. know if there was an informant and the trump campaign? i do not know if there was but it would be appropriate. if this campaign was colluding with the russians, they have a duty to find out if there is discussions going on between the

campaign and the russians. they had a duty to find out. mr. giuliani has said in conversations with mueller's team, the scope of questioning would be narrow and mr. mueller's team had told the white house does that would not be indicted. i cannot comment. he is not a credible person. yeah said so many different things. payid pay him, he didn't him, he paid him $10,000 a month, this story changes month-to-month. were true?that what is the next move? would not and die sitting president because of the constitutional. anst: he can still be unindicted co-conspirator.

to the house judiciary. hopefully it would do some work. the house judiciary committee, the most relevant committee of this entire investigation, it has done nothing. dissident and the republican party want this to go in because there is information that will be damaging. not credible to bull believe that donald trump, jr. didn't know his father had a block cell phone. he probably called his father three times a day. blocks number, what do i do? if mr. miller which recommend impeachment proceedings it would go where? guest: house judiciary. host: what would their role be? >> to decide if there is

probable cause. to see if there is grounds for impeachment. impeachment takes a majority of the house committee. then it would go to the senate for a trial on impeachment grounds. our guest this morning -- caller: good morning. always nice talking to you. you're the best moderator. mr. cohen, how can you call rudy giuliani dishonest? excuse me. i am talking. i have heard you go through these filibusters with other people in different places. i have to tell you something. are you still there?

in october, 2016 you wanted to get rid of komi. terrible, heas should not have brought charges against hillary, he should not been making these reports. a year later you are praising him for the good he has done for the government. you are disingenuous. i can't understand why people have you on the show. the congressman respond. you're changing opinions? did not talk about komi. i talked about mueller. host: these conversations about comey. guest: he was afraid to comments of when he shouldn't have gotten involved with the clinton matter. i thought it violated justice

part of policy. i think it influenced the election. i did not talk about him today. i think that is what he was saying. i was not praising him saying all these wonderful things. i did not say giuliani was dishonest. he was not credible. he has conflicted too many things. he says i'm learning more and more about the investigation. he goes on and just attacks people. i saw him this morning, i was embarrassed. i felt like i was watching a prizefighter at a fight that he should not have had at the end of his career when he was fighting somewhere in new jersey. host: what is the difference between mr. giuliani going on tv in your comments about jared kushner and ivanka trump? giuliani said he was

disposable. not disposablee -- the guys are disposable. he said ivanka should not have to testify, like she is a princess. there is no a reason she should not have to be a witness. the idea that daughters don't have to testify but men are disposable, what a sexist line that is. caller: good morning. thank you for c-span. i watch you every morning. is right anduest the different things he says. i don't understand how people can say the president should not have to testify when he is not above the law. he keeps saying he wants to go to mueller and talk. why doesn't he? things he will back and self

into a corner and get caught up in his own lies the he cannot tell the truth. i think giuliani is a joke. i think he goes up there and rambles, then the president has to say that was not right. they cannot get on the right page. people should wake up and realize how damaged our country is. guest: i can't argue with anything she has said. she is exactly right. the you start to question truth and the truth is not important, and you make up your fax, you are damaging democracy. putin wants america to fail. to the major places he wants america to fail, to question the being anear he as

arbiter of conflicts, and he wants the press questioned as an of the, a dispenser news. that is something america has been known for. when i traveled overseas people said constantly what i am meyer about america is the rule of law. people want to have a fair justice system. ours makes his look like it is, a joke. attackeddent has judges. he's attacked the judiciary and the press. secretary tillerson has said it. everybody should be saying it. that is what an authoritarian does. we have an authoritarian in the white house. it is not somebody who puts america first. business is backed by qatar government financing.

we saw what happened. and fund half $1 billion investment for this indonesian resort. all of a sudden things change with their business with china. america should come first. put america first, not trump. wrecks tillerson's resort -- remarks can be found on our website in case you are interested in listening to the former secretary of state in his own words. he talked about truthfulness and how america should demand it from our leaders. let's go to gary. go tigers. caller: yes. as a returned army veteran living in the congressman's district. i would like to compliment him on his courage to stand up for

the principles of our country. toould like to encourage him project more. he has done that in the past. wall byng stoned republican members. just continue to support that effort and thank you for voting no on the veterans bill, which will make a wreck of the v.a. system. for -- thank you -- guest: thank you for your service. the v.a. bill that was up i think is a road to privatizing the of the a, closing -- va.

i think we have a good administrator and director making improvements. i spoke with him this past week. a lot of veterans like their service. especially people with ptsd, unique injuries veterans experience, the v.a. is the best place you can go. i think that is why i voted against it. i will continue to see if the truth comes out. bob mueller testified when he was the fbi director. i was terribly impressed with him then and have been. i do not think there has been a man with more credibility and in the whole government's fear i have ever met. he just dates to do his investigation. -- he just needs to do his investigation.

in that harm when it pertains to the law? he has indictments, everybody around trump. manafort was his campaign manager working without pay. when you work without pay and have millions of dollars of houses and real estate, and he goes into the republican convention and manafort is taken , takes outplatform the part that says we should give the ukraine government out of theapons republican platform. why did he do that? the russians did not want him to get those weapons. manafort has deals with these former ukraine leaders put out with the revolution. he is making major money. why would you work for free? a lot of of these people, the salaries are chump change compared to the market. -- it is astonishing with

these oligarchs put away. why would flint plead guilty of something did not happen? manafort has not pled. basically all the people around ,he president and the campaign so many have pled guilty or have been indicted, which means an independent grand jury has found probable cause they have violated the united states laws. >> the house is going to gavel in early at the top of the hour. the question hanging is will there be a vote on the farm bill. there are factions within the republican party that want to force a vote on immigration three conservatives want a conservative bill. modern republicans are pushing for a discharge that would force a vote to protect the deferred

action childhood arrivals program. i want to show you what homeland security secretary nielsen has to say as she made her way into the white house, asked by reporters in the driveway about this. >> to tell us your relationship the president? >> we a strong relationship. we are both really frustrated. we need congress to act. we need congress to everything within the law. the american people are frustrated and so are we. i think he is frustrated the process. saidis the president who we must protect american communities and the law prevents them from doing so. there are lots of loopholes. they require catch and release. two released from an all aliens

back into the community, that do not allow us to keep gang members out of the country. it goes on and on. congresse clear to that we need to do to take our communities. issuek it is a timing perhaps. they are just never in session. they have the recesses. we encourage them to stay in session and get your job done. host: congressman? guest: i do not know ms. nielsen very well. there are changes that need to be made. .e do not need a wall that is a camp and as he wants to keep unlike the campaign office that he negotiated for better drug prices. all on the world drug

prices for seniors are what is important. people need to see they can afford drugs to maintain. they need to have the federal medicaid tohrough negotiate for better prices is something president trump ran on and something he has forgotten. a promise made an promise broken. >> there is a plan in the new york times to make .uperdelegates less super one plan is to reduce the number tosuperdelegates from 700 280. some say they would for a proposal that would only allow party leaders retain superdelegate status. >>t do you make of this? whatever the dnc does is fine with me. i think a congressman should the delegation and should vote.

other folks maybe don't need to be. they do some advice that is important as far as electability. clinton, with hillary she won without the superdelegates she had 80 of the superdelegates. she had most of the delegates. that is a different situation. i understand people want democracy. less superdelegates is fine with me. host: have you signed on to this? guest: i plan to today. the line was too long yesterday. host: there is a line? still 195re are everybody winds up. the line was 30 people deep. >> trying to sign this? democrats trying to sign

on and by the end of the day. are on board. what guidance are you getting from leadership? encourage us to sign on. i had a discharge position to and i got allr democrats. when hundred 78 that have the mueller protection bill come to the floor which i think should come to the floor to give him due process and casey is fired. these are the things you have to think about. this man should be given a medal. him should consider making on mel rushmore. congressman, we thank you for your time this morning. guest: nice to be with you. host: return to the house. they are about to gather in