tv Washington Journal Bill Schneider CSPAN May 21, 2018 1:34am-2:01am EDT
1:34 am
>> on washington journal, former cnn political analyst will schneider talked about his new book on american politics, trump administration, and took questions. well, it is shaping up as a national crisis. the issues of guns and school shootings have become the number one issue to most americans right now. they want something done. that chose the evidence of becoming a crisis, exactly the way i described it. voters are telling elected officials and everyone who will listen, we have to do something about this. not necessarily gun control, that could be part of it, but they want something done about this mass epidemic of school
1:35 am
shootings. host: this is the headline from the washington post -- 2018 has been deadlier for schoolchildren and service members. there have been 22 school shooting since january. guest: just about everyone has been to school, has family in school, and the spreads across the whole country because even in areas that have not experienced this sort of terrible violence, students are afraid to go to school. they are wondering every day they go to class, will they be shot? host: since columbine, 216,000 students have been exposed to school shootings. guest: that is right. that is an awful lot of students and there are more than that in school. they are all nervous, all terrified. that shows all the indications of becoming a national crisis. host: bill schneider, you mentioned something earlier, and we have the video from june last year of the cabinet meeting.
1:36 am
let's watch and listen. >> what we will do, most of the people know most of the people around the room. i will start with our vice president. there he is. maybe start with mike and go around, and you name your position and we will ask these folks to go back and have a good day, and we will discuss our various reports. >> thank you, mr. president. it is the greatest privilege of my life to serve as vice president to a president who is keeping his word to the american people. bringing real change, real prosperity, israel strength back to our nation. -- and real strength back to our nation. >> i am proud to be here and celebrate this group. , as you know, i am not sure the rest of you understand the support, but law enforcement around the country are very frustrated and they are
1:37 am
so thrilled we have a new idea, that we are going to support them and work together to lawfully fight the rising crime we are seeing. it is great to serve you in that regard. you have the exact right message , and the response is fabulous around the country. >> great success, including ms-13, they are being thrown out in record numbers and rapidly. they are being depleted. they will all be gone pretty soon. >> mr. president, i'm privileged to be here, deeply honored, and i want to thank you for your commitment to the american workers. this week is a full schedule for you, focusing on the american worker. we are very excited at the department of labor and the apprenticeship program that will be announced, and i think this will make a real difference. thank you. >> thank you and
1:38 am
congratulations. >> it is an honor to be on the team. i had the great privilege to represent america to china at the green energy ministerial. they needed to hear why america was stepping away from the paris accord, and they did, and america is not stepping back. we are stepping into play and sending these messages that we are still going to be leaders in the world when it comes to the climate, but we are not going to be held hostage to some executive order that was ill thought out. my hat is off to you for taking that stand and sending a clear message around the world that america will continue to lead in the area of energy. >> thank you. host: from june 12, 2017, the full event available on our website. you refer to this as dear leader. why? guest: it looks like what they do and north korea when they say
1:39 am
dear leader. it is embarrassing. lots of people were humiliated by this, exposure to a president who laps up flattery. he solicits flattery. there is something unique about donald trump. he is a divider. he won the country by dividing the country. he is a good businessman. tosaw the opportunity exploit division, and that is what got him elected. he governs as a divider. presents in aur row, who each promised to heal the country. the first george bush was kinder and gentler, fired after one term. bill clinton, no way democrat, got impeached. bush, because of the iraq war, the country was more
1:40 am
divided than ever. barack obama said there was no liberal conservative america, there is only a united states of america. he was wrong. he got a key party revolt. donald trump was not like any of his predecessors. they all offer to be healers. donald trump is anything but a healer. host: do you think we will hear anymore public statements by president obama? this president has done a lot to turn back a lot of the obama era . guest: there is a bitter joke going around among democrats saying that if donald trump had succeeded him hamilton, he would have reinstituted slavery. that is very cynical. he is attempting to eradicate everything obama a compost. a lot of republicans agree with that. this is a very big problem. iod ofld be in a per
1:41 am
lurching presidencies. the president from the right, a president from the left who each tries to eradicate the legacy of his predecessor. that could be very dangerous. bbc: carry on the parliament channel. good morning to you. thank you. i am an american living in britain. democracy was a weird idea, to let everyone have the same rule. where america may seriously be going wrong is the whole basis of democracy is that the majority wins, and that gives the person who won the election rule because the majority of the people are behind them. i know why gerrymandering and
1:42 am
the electoral college developed over time. everyone understands democracy all over the world as majority rule. in america, we have someone who did not get the most votes who is the president. it's completely blows the idea of democracy skyhigh. what you have is a kind of weir d system of rules where the majority is not ruling. no wonder the president doesn't have backing, he doesn't represent the most bugs. host: twice within 18 years, we had a president who won but did not win the popular vote. george w. bush in 2000 and donald trump in 2016. guest: that damaged them when they got elected. they did win by the rules of the electoral college. they started off with very weak support. in donald trump's case, he did get something of a mandate
1:43 am
because his victory was so unexpected. in george w. bush in 2000, al gore said he did not agree with the supreme court's decision, but he would abide by it. there was no rioting in the streets because gore gave that signal. george w. bush did get a mandate eventually, september 11 2001. that is when he got a mandate, not from the election. host: as an academic, this is a speculative question. won theary clinton presidency with the republicans in the house and senate, what would her first two years have been like? guest: open political warfare. bill clinton was able to deal with the republicans. he was a very moderate democrat. a lot of democrats are turning against bill clinton because he was a very moderate democrat.
1:44 am
form, ther regulation of wall street. host: he had to because he had a divided government. guest: you have to make a deal. compromise. it is very cynical. people don't like it. that is what is mandated by the constitution. tyt party voter -- tea par nce confronted president clinton, and she said read the and constitution. host: go ahead, diana. guest: good morning. caller: good morning, bill schneider. i have a question for you.
1:45 am
said to remember every politician is in business for themselves. that really struck me. nerve.ck a i want you to explain to me what means.tually it sheds a pretty dim light on politicians. i just want you to expound on that. guest: ok. what i mean is that unlike other countries, parliamentary democracies, our politicians are not the soldiers in a party army. sometimes they abide by party discipline, but they don't see themselves as there to enforce party discipline. that is not what they are all about. they are all about advancing their own careers. that is why i say they are independent political
1:46 am
entrepreneurs. if they are republican, they will support a republican president if they believe it will advance their careers. ppose all also o republican president if they think that will advance their careers. host: good morning. you have recovered from the wedding over the weekend? caller: thank you. we had a lovely day. we are proud country today. i tried to watch you as often as i can. mr. schneider, thank you. i think this is one of the first moments after the 2016 election that makes sense, where i am listening to somebody that explains things in a way that my instinct tells me this is right. every time is this, these awful shootings and massacres in your schools occur,
1:47 am
suppose sort of -- i tradition is the wrong word -- i the only the quote, solution to a bad guy with the gun is to take away the gun. i got a sense that there was an inertia on capitol hill as far as dealing with this, i would say, crisis. sandyok at the parents of hook. as far as they're concerned, it is a crisis. themicians, we can berate or love them or whatever. they responded to thanks, public criticism and cash. safety ofd hold the the nation's children above their wallets, that you think? -- don't you think?
1:48 am
is the crisis at the point where america needs to look long and hard at the constitution, particularly the second minute, and decide it is not fit for purpose. it was written almost 300 years ago in a completely different context. there will be a certain amount of instability, and people will get hold of weapons that can cause such tremendous devastation. that?not time to tackle host: thank you for the call. thank you for tuning in every sunday. we appreciate it. guest: guns are in the constitution. the supreme court ruled a few years ago that it is an individual right to carry a gun. it is very difficult to amend the constitution. you try that. it is a very elaborate process. the problem is guns have a very
1:49 am
special meaning to a lot of americans. to a lot of gun owners, they are a symbol of individual freedom. they see that as a basic protection against an abusive and tyrannical government. i have been to gun shows, and i have had people come up to me and say if jews in europe have had guns, there was have been no holocaust. if africans had guns, there would be no slavery. that is honestly absurd, but they believe that. about resistance to authority. we were settled by runaways to authority. defiance is in our culture. there is nothing that describes donald trump as president more than defiance. press, washington, and common decency. that is part of american makeup.
1:50 am
host: the washington post, when is it going to stop, quoting one student. don is joining us from new mexico, one for independents. caller: good morning. can you hear me? host: we can. go ahead. caller: this morning, the cabinet meeting, the way in which everyone cap have to the theident -- kowtowed to president, you talk about the way in which he controls and governs america. i have been reading some books. one of them is fascism by madeleine albright. lessonsn tyranny, 20 from the 20th century. another one is how democracies die.
1:51 am
if you saw fascism, could you identify it? guest: yeah. i know what fascism is. i have studied it. i have studied the history in germany and italy and japan. it is a constant danger for any system that is a democracy to decline into fascism if there is enough crisis and pressure. there is something i think that protects americans from that kind of deterioration. order.ur constitutional our constitutional order keeps us from becoming extremists, from having any extremists taking over the country. our constitutional order is very powerful. it was written to protect americans, the american nation from a tyrant. it also protects us from an megalomaniac. there are many checks and balances on president trump and what he does.
1:52 am
there is a congress controlled by his own party that doesn't always cooperate. there are state governments in open defiance of the present. there are courts. there are lots of ways in which you can put up blockades against what a president wants to do. system.rotected by our host: your thoughts on the vice president? garner oncenk nance said not worth a picture of warm spit. i think it was a lot more vulgar. he is always someone else's man. if you are the vice president, that sets you up nicely to be the next presidential nominee after the president retires. it is very likely mike pence will be the nominee whenever donald trump leaves office.
1:53 am
he very rarely wins. the only one who did was george h.w. bush. the vice president when he runs for office, he has a problem because he is seen as someone else's man. pence is trump's man. be trump'salways man. a lot of voters will say, this guy's not independent enough. host: this is what mike pence said about president trump. >> watches address to congress. what you saw a couple days ago is what i see everyday in the west wing, boundless optimism, energy, and an unshakable belief in the american people and the capacity of all of you to make america great again. trump's leadership is
1:54 am
already making america great again. it is deeply humbling. this small town boy from across theborder to have opportunity to serve as vice president. i want to thank you. [applause] for the first time in a long time, i said earlier in this week, we have a president with broad shoulders and a big heart. guest: donald trump when he was campaigning made a deal with conservatives. saidrvatives basically we will support you, and we want you in the white house so you will sign whatever legislation the republican congress passes and keep your mouth shut. what they got was a president who mostly signs what republicans passed but does not keep his mouth shut. we are seeing bigger and bigger
1:55 am
division by education in america. the better educated you are now, the more likely you are to vote democratic. the wealthier you are, the more likely you are to vote republican. students will say, what about people who are wealthy and well educated? they are what sociologists call cross pressured. if they vote their economic interests, they would vote republican, mitt romney. ote their conscience, they will vote democratic. that would be barack obama. republican voters are leaving the republican party because they cannot stand donald trump. host: this is the headline this morning. front page of the new york four, co-written by reporters, the trumpet in corey trump inquiry includes
1:56 am
contacts in the gulf. before the bureau had any inkling of the phone russia hopes. in fact, fbi agents sent an informant to talk to to campaign advisers only after they had evidence that the pair were linked to russians during the campaign. may contact late this summer with one campaign advisor, george papadopoulos, and later carter page. the role of the informant is at the heart of the newest battle between top law enforcement officials and president trump's .ongressional allies no evidence has emerged that the informant acted improperly when the fbi asked for help in gathering information on before
1:57 am
campaign advisers were that the agents feared from fbi's investigative guidelines, which would be illegal. the president said the following, "things are getting really ridiculous. the failing and crooked new york times has done a long and boring story indicating that the world's most expensive witchhunt has found nothing on russia and me, and so now they are looking at the rest of the world." this goes back to the headline about contacts in the gulf. guest: what he is doing is feeding his base. your base are the people who are with you when you are wrong. donald trump is wrong very often. there whothose out will stick with them through thick oregon. he knows that. -- thick or thin. he knows that. he feeds his base.
1:58 am
they might be as much as a quarter of the country, not 42%. that is his approval rating. there are people who will believe him the matter what he says. he did say the most incredible things. he is at war with the intelligence community, the fbi, the justice department. they are all out to get him. they are certainly looking into what is happening in his campaign. that is what they're supposed to do. ase believes this is a witchhunt. they will fight for him to the death. host: the book is standoff. the message is what? guest: this country has never been so divided. we have a country that is governing us by dividing us. i am encouraged by the fact we have a constitutional order that was written to protect us
1:59 am
>> here's a look at our live coverage on monday. infectious diseases and the u.s. response to potential outbreak. then at noon eastern the house is back for general speeches. on c-span2, secretary of state mike pompeo talks about u.s. policy toward iran after president trump's decision to withdraw from the iran nuclear deal. that is followed by a discussion on the influence of dark money in political campaigns. then at 3 p.m. eastern the senate returns. and on c-span3, a forum on voter outreach efforts by state and local officials.
2:00 am
officials from the t.s.a. and the government accountability office testify on how to battle security concerns with efficiency. this sub house committee hearing is 1:40 minutes. . >> that committee only and security transportation will come to order i will apologize for my delay my third or fourth meeting already today i am running behind i apologize. we will assess the transportation security administration preparedness for the summer travel period. and then to see an increase in aviation travel with a record bracing spring travel season to draw even bigger passenger
62 Views
IN COLLECTIONS
CSPAN Television Archive Television Archive News Search ServiceUploaded by TV Archive on