capitol hill at a budget hearing at 10:00 a.m. on c-span3, then u.s. border protection gives an update on border security. c-span, where history unfolds daily. in 1979, c-span was created as a public service by america's cable television companies. today we continue to bring you congress, coverage of the white house, the supreme court and public policy events in washington dc and around the country. c-span is brought to you by your cable or satellite provider. coming up this republicanw york congressman john faso the future of the gop farm bill and daca program. and texas democratic congressman al green talks about the divide

among democrats going into the midterm elections, whether to try to impeach president trump. then we will look at funding of arts programs with erich bergen and vh1 save the music foundation's henry donahue . ♪ it is the "washington journal" on may 22. betsy devos will discuss the 2019 education budget and education policy at 10:00 a.m. on c-span.org, then steve mnuchin will be before members of the senate appropriations committee to discuss his department's budget and related matters at 10:00 a.m. on c-span3. you can go to our website at c-span.org to find out about those and other hearings. senate democrats releasing a plan leading up to the midterm elections in which they will drain the swamp. with efforts aimed at the

administration, president trump has touted swamp draining as a key element of his administration as well. we will get your thoughts on which party you may think may do the better job at draining the swamp, so to speak. it could be democrats, republicans, independents, you may think no party is capable of this. here are the numbers to call. democrats, 202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. if you want to post on our social media channels, do so at c-span wj on twitter and on facebook. ro khanna posted a story related to this announcement yesterday talking about the midterm election strategy for the democrats, on the website. the democrats turning their message to the many scandals swirling around the trump administration, betting that bows to drain the swamp will bring voters to their side.

deal"ansion of "a better which focused on kitchen table economic issues in lieu of the controversies surrounding the president, extending the message to include the anticorruption component the democrats are painting the administration and republican supporters on capitol hill as an and scribbles group using power to pad its own pockets. the democrats promising that they can be an alternative, a party that will clean the place up. it was on capitol hill where the democrats made this announcement, when it comes to the new strategy. part of that announcement coming from the senate minority leader chuck schumer. >> president trump campaigned as a populous. he promised to drain the swamp and clean up washington. democrats welcomed this promise. all of us here today have been working for years to promote ideas and legislation that would

loosen the grip of special interests on so many arms of the federal government. but president trump, when it comes to draining the swamp, has been a complete and total disappointment. president trump has embraced the most egregious establishment republican norms, and appointed the most conflict of interest ridden cabinet in my lifetime. the swamp has never been more foul than under this president. host: matt full announcement -- that full announcement is available to you on c-span.org. senate democrats put out some of their policy priorities in an announcement where they cited three things. one, empower the voter to -- s aying we must protect our right to vote. and put an end to partisan redistricting. two, strengthen our ethics laws

to fight special interests, we must in the revolving door and influence and rain and high power insiders, lobbyists and big-money donors, and the special interests driving washington's agenda. three come up fix the broken -- three, fixed the broken finance system. andwer everyday americans end the scourge of dark money unleashed by citizens united. those are some of the policy priorities from the democrats when it comes to the idea of drain the swamp. we are asking which party you might think does it better. the phone lines again. democrats, 202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. this is john, democrats line. go ahead. caller: i hereby demand the democrats drain the swamp. have a good day. host: how should they go about

doing that? caller: first, go after the president. he needs to be impeached. he is a crook, a bona fide the spirit host: besides -- theief. host: besides that, what should the democrats concentrate on? john? you can add your thoughts to the conversation as well. remember, it was president trump on his administration, one things he was talking about when it comes to the campaign and his time in washington, was the idea of draining the swamp. the washington times has a piece looking at it. saying, president trump is poised to demand a federal investigation into whether the department of justice infiltrated or surveilled the campaign for political purposes, that means he is putting his mockers to shame. you mentioned the possibility as far back as much 17 when he

said, just found out obama had my wires tapped. nothing found. this is mccarthyism. derided, ripped by the left media and anti-jumpers on the right, as a man whose demeanor showed some unfit for high office, even low office for that matter. it goes on, but lower on in the piece she finishes by saying, "do not expect the mainstream media to come swooping in on this one. it does not matter, the swamp is already being drained. the liars and hypocrites and anti-american forces are slowly being brought to light anyway." at as president trump recent campaign rally earlier this month touting the idea of draining the swamp and what it means and how it applies to his administration. there are those thoughts from the campaign rally. president trump: indiana will

face an important choice. a really incredible swamp person back to the senate, like joe donnelly. or you can send us republicans wong toe wrong -- mike drain the swamp. [cheers] drain thehe swamp -- swamp. drain the swamp. drain the swamp. president trump: under my administration, we are fighting against the lobbyists, the special interests, and in the corrupt washington politics. after years of rebuilding foreign countries, of which a

lot of people partake in the cost of rebuilding those foreign countries, we are finally rebuilding our country. [cheers] host: off of twitter, a viewer says, republicans have shown themselves willing to ratify any act by republicans, said they are not the ones to drain the swamp. republicans are the swamp. another viewer, what about scandals revolving the democrats? and thet the dirty dems fbi under president obama? how much money did the clintons get from russia? your thoughts about draining the swamp this morning. david, go ahead. caller: stay with me. the swamp refers to the overreach of government and it goes into stems from all the way down at the state level where

they are trying to build industries of authority through the social services, educational systems, government systems, all these systems, when the chu authority belongs to the people in the united states. just for one example is, that prohibition, a large amount of people -- the majority -- support using marijuana, but a small group assume authorities are implementing prohibition against. host: you are saying, when it comes to draining the swamp it is not a party issue but a person issue? caller: no, it is a party issue. but each party is trying to grow more government, more government, just in their likeness. and it goes all the way down to the county level. they need to start draining it there, because all of these little bureaucracies from the county level up are the problem.

host: you are saying -- caller: it is federal as well as the government at the bottom. host: when it comes to a party, you do not trust either party? caller: both of them are trying to grow these industries. our representatives, a republican representative in bolstered ana just bill to implement more servicesists -- uh, in the schools to basically harass the children more, as their answer, instead of gun legislation. they are going to put more of the same in the schools of harassment. host: ok, going to maryland. jeffrey, democrats line. hi. caller: how are you doing? host: well, thank you. caller: which party do you trust, i do not think anybody will drain the swamp.

each one of them want a piece of the rock. what they should do about policy is work together. look at what is going on in this country. donald trump will be donald trump, he has been that all his life. he might be hardheaded, but who is not hardheaded? i am a democrat, but i do not like what i see going on behind these rich people that are running these government things. be put in an office to take advantage of the system. the swamp needs to be changed. i am bipartisan. i think they need to work together. the wretched thing going on, -- the russian thing going on, put it aside and work together. host: on twitter, there is a poll you can participate in with the idea of draining the swamp. it is not scientific by any means, just a response poll with most saying the democrats are the party they would trust in this effort. 50% saying republicans, 39%

saying it is independents. robert craig off of twitter says, political corruption permeates through all parties, no one party. fix is income the other of is do not have any intention of draining the swamp. they decided on a slogan of opposite of what they want to do, follow the money and it ends with the supreme court. it sides with corporations. the supreme court weighing on a case yesterday. and jimmy says, "the swamp is washington dc." you can add those thoughts on twitter and facebook as well. george on the democrats line. caller: hey, how are you doing? host: well, thanks. caller: our forefathers set of the country on this thing of integrity of the individual and educational and knowledge to try

to provide us with a set of ideals different from what we were used to under the rule of britain. i know that has developed over the years to something different, but i hate it when people call this our government, call it the swamp. it is our government, we need to fix it and work together. i just believe that may be some of the more important things should be looked at, like education. our kids do not know enough about government to actually participate. i listen to the comments made by people in both sides of the whatever type of conflict, or agreement, this agreement that they have, and some are educated and a summer not. it is like -- some are not. it is like, we're not going to the core of the problem, which

is we need to teach our kids from the beginning about what government, about with the united states is about. host: a newspaper shows the results of a poll taken among americans, talking about the idea of draining the swamp. in the story command says two thirds of americans said that president trump has never filled the promise to drain the swamp. worse, they have made it 37% say nothing has really changed. and according to the poll, 35% per dispense -- participants have said that he had made progress. trump repeatedly pledged to inpaign to drain the swamp washington by getting rid of this is political insiders and ethics issues. you are on. caller: good morning. host: go ahead. caller: hi. well, as far as the swamp is

concerned, i think that we need to be careful because what happens in these conversations is often our definitions shift. i think we really wanted to find the swamp -- define the swamp. what is up happening is the swamp is defined by republicans as the type of government, or type of long rolling -- log rolling more special interests are looked after more than the individual. or they define the swamp as basically anybody who has been in government long enough to really know how it functions, and it therefore has too many tentacles and it, they think. -- in it, they think. host: how do you think democrats view it? caller: the democrats more have a view toward is there nepotism?

are there in proper business arrangements? as far as that definition is concerned, i think i would trust democrats more to get rid of the ness we seempin right now in the trump administration, which has to do with his appointed people. he has betsy devos, who does not believe in public education. he has scott pruitt, who does not believe in signs or the environment. host: ok. ,hat is a caller from denver colorado. betsy devos speaking today. you can see that on our website c-span.org. if you miss it, we will re-air it tonight. betsy devos before the education and workforce committee, talking

about the budget, but it usually goes into talking about education. you can see that on the web today or later on c-span2. donnie in kentucky, democrats line. you are next. caller: talking about draining the swamp. i am a democrat and the republican party made me change to a democrat. talking about draining the swamp, trump has not drained the swamp. wamped up with him. it is over his head. republicans need to let donald trump know he is not the boss he thinks he is. he is the swamp. host: you think democrats would do a better job? caller: you are mighty right i do. the democrats have more sense than donald trump. mitch mcconnell and paul ryan.

everything donald trump has done, they do not do nothing. they give him credit. host: kathleen says, "the democrats are done and most in that relize." "you cannot change washington dc if you do not get people to vote for change." staten island, new york. independent line. caller: good morning. i do not think it will ever be done unless the american people demand it be changed. if people do not vote, we will never change the swamp. as far as donald trump goes, he went into the swamp to try to change it and they are all fighting him. republicans have gone against him. the democrats are only interested in their party, they are not interested in the welfare of america. if the welfare of america was primary to them we would not have 20 million people here illegally. if you want to see how bad the

swamp is, look at new york city. new york city put up speed cameras, then they voted a 32% increase on their wages. host: can i ask a question? if you think the president has done a good job at draining the swamp, specifically what would you look at and say, he is doing that job? caller: the military budget, look at the way that has gone. they are fighting him on immigration. he just wants to follow the law. host: hold on. with the military budget, how is that an example of draining the swamp? caller: it is too high. they do not need all those weapons. why do they need them? if anything, they need to use common sense when they buy things with the budgets they pass. host: sammy in new york. the budgeting process for the defense department being debated

on capitol hill this week. georgia,n line from james is next. caller: good morning. draining the swamp. it was supposed to be researched by cambridge analytica, but nancy pelosi used the same phrase when the democrats took over congress during the bush administration. ooey did not get t much in trained. i do not trust any party. host: stevie donald trump has made any progress draining the swamp -- do you think donald trump is made any progress draining the small? caller: they took some steps dc, the v.a. in washington that was a terrible situation. so many people hate on betsy

devos, but she has dedicated her whole time to ensure that all children can get a good education, not just the white rich. i do not know why everybody bashes her all the time. host: a couple stories to show you. washington examiner about the president charging kelly with getting probe documents in connection to the russia investigation. stephen nelson reporting that. he left a meeting with it fbi director. rod rosenstein with an agreement on future steps on the release of those documents. said they agreed the white house chief of staff kelly will immediately set up a meeting with the fbi, the and director of national intelligence together with congressional leaders to review classified and other information they've requested. the house intelligence committee republicans have sought unsuccessfully to seize

documents on the fbi probe of the trump campaign's collusion with the russia. including on the use of an informant. if you go to the new york times, in profile of rod rosenstein about the attempts by the president to have the department of justice look into that informant. inquiry,o protect the rosenstein has agreed to meet demand for mr. trump and allies. to on sunday when the president demanded the fbi department investigate -- investigate the fbi, infuriated when an informant met with officials from the campaign in the early weeks of the investigation." it goes on to say that his response was a deflection. it neutered a troubling request, appeared responsive to the demand, and a lot of rod rosenstein to keep his job. some caution the short-term

strategy could have longer-term costs for the independence of the white house. if you go to another new york times story, the profiles the chief strategist for the clinton campaign in 2008, now a critic of the efforts by robert mueller, saying in a series of recent newspaper columns and appearances on fox news, -- his endorsed his argument that investigated of the special counsel, robert mueller, was instigated by secret democratic -- the inquiry had resulted in storm trooper tactics and has become "scorched earth" effort to bring down donald trump. the process must not be stopped, have really before a vote in the senate, he wrote. that was posted on sunday evening and it generated a lot of buzz. he goes on to say rather than a fair, and impartial investigation the molar investigation became a partisan, open ended in position --

inquisition. you can read more about mark penn's comments, not only in the profile of him in the new york times this morning. go ahead. caller: good morning come i wanted it -- good morning, i wanted to speak to the upcoming congressional elections. i think the democratic party will really need new leadership in order to win, that means getting rid of nancy pelosi. i have been a lifelong democrat and she really is a drag on the party. host: what do you think about draining the swamp strategy that they have announced? if they do it it would be wonderful, but nancy pelosi is part of that swamp. she needs to go. host: from virginia, we will hear from staci on our independent line. caller: good morning.

drained?he swamp been yes, donald trump has drained the swamp and filled his cabinet with russian spies, child molesters, pedophiles, abusers -- host: which party is better at draining the swamp then? say, i would would honestly say at this point the democrats would be the better party to do that, because of the utter corruption that is involved in donald trump, around donald trump, and the people. host: what is it about the democratic party that makes them better at it? caller: at least they are not liars and they do not surround themselves with nazis. just thent criminals, things that are going on i have never in my life seen so much

corruption in my life here in washington. now it is the norm. it is like they were once fiscal conservatives when president obama was in office, but once he left it was a free-for-all. heist. tax scam everything is going up. host: republican line, allen from washington state. caller: let me rant about the republicans, i mean the democrats, like you let her rant about the republicans. host: start with the idea on draining the swamp and then make your comment. caller: the constitution drained part of the swamp. got rid of the big swamp rat. too many of the others got in there. if they got rid of the little rats, they would be all right. you got obama, he ran guns to

mexico. he spied on the republican party. scandal and all of that. and he didn't -- he let hezbollah, his friends in hezbollah put drugs in the country. he did not stop that. host: ok, danny. independent line. caller: hi. red they101 is vote win.vote blue they free to choose, guaranteed to lose. the way to drain the swamp is discipline create a democracy. all conservatives and all liberals say they love democracy and they want democracy, but amazingly the word democracy appears zero times in the

constitution. it is not in the constitution, so we have to create an amendment and establish a democracy. that is what works. parties do not promote democracy, they prevent democracy. host: the president meets with the south korean president today. part of the discussion leading up to the potential talks with north korea, the south korean ambassador to the united states in an op-ed this morning in the washington post writes under the title, "we cannot let this chance slip away." "we are aware of the north korean regime, and we cannot lose this chance. he might choose a different path from his father and grandfather. we are about to witness democratic actions among the highest level, including the meeting between the south korean president and donald trump in washington and the summit between donald trump and kim in

singapore. kim is implementing meaningful changes in north korea that must be acknowledged. the these dynamics provide unprecedented opportunities. it is vital we focus on making the best use of these opportunities by encouraging kim to stay on track with his commitments, and to show him a vision toward a brighter future for north korea and its people." of south korea to the united states this morning. this is mark, last call on this topic of which party do you trust to drain the swamp. caller: we need to drain the swamp, but the problem is the media is part of the swamp. how do you do that? how do you drain the swamp when the media has become part of it with the democratic party, with the republican party? i mean, i do not like the state

of our country, where it is at. who do vote for? you vote for donald trump or republicans or democrats? a lot of americans are confused right now. call onat is mark, last this topic as far as which party you a trusted drain the swamp. coming up, the first of two representatives joining us. first up, representative john faso on the discussion of the future of the farm bill and the daca program. that conversation coming up when we continue. ♪ >> i think the most important thing, the latest of our great country can do is preserve our

rights as citizens, not only in nevada, but for all of the country. censorship, i think they need to remember that we are the freest country in the world and it needs to stay like that. >> the most support and thing going on is education. i field like we need to have -- feel like we need to have more resources and income coming to our teachers to provide education for students, so we may succeed in life. >> the most important issue anywhere, especially in nevada and in the region is two things andne affordable housing, number two is workforce. we are growing so rapidly they do not have enough people to build and take the jobs. >> poverty, we need to add more

jobs so people can work and make money for their families and have a good life. >> the most important issue, i would say keeping our environment clean and safe for organisms and species. announcer: voices from the states, part of c-span's 50 capitals tour. part of their stop in nevada. announcer: c-span, where history unfolds daily. in 1970 nine, c-span was created as a public service by america's cable television companies. today, we continue to bring you unfiltered coverage of congress, the white house, the supreme court, and public policy events in washington dc and around the country. c-span is brought to you by your cable or satellite provider. washington journal continues. host: our first guest is representative john faso,

republican of new york, member of the agricultural committee and budget committee. guest: and transportation. host: transportation as well. let's start with agriculture. what happened last week with the vote on the farm bill? decided a democrats month ago that they were not going to play ball, because they do not like the fact that we are insisting upon stricter work requirements for able-bodied adults between 18-59 in the food stamps program. we where attempting to pass this with republican only votes. i think the democratic opposition is really misguided, because the vast majority of taxpayers expect if you are able-bodied you should be in a training program, you should be in an apprenticeship, and you should begetting a job. we have a labor shortage, that is why we have that. republicans who voted no, by and

large, are holding the farm bill hostage to an unrelated issue, namely immigration. i think that was a mistake. i do not think hostage taking is a good form of legislative initiative, especially when we have been working for one and a half years on this bill and it is vital to the agricultural community. my district, we have relief for the dairy farmers, which is important. we also have other provisions in the bill that would be terrific for agriculture, conservation, for dealing with invasive species, etc. so i think it was a mistake for them. i hope the speaker offered a motion to reconsider. i expect it will come back at some point, when the hostage taking ends. host: representative's goalies scalise third week - -sc- says the third week in june it could come back.

do you think it is a good timetable? guest: i think it is a good timetable. the senate will pass a different bill, so we have to collaborate on this and we must pass something by the end of september in order to not have it expire. host: when it comes to the work requirements, what are you expecting and who does it target for those who get snap benefits? guest: employable, able-bodied adults between the ages of 18-59, who do not have children six and under at home. people who are not in the workforce, who are not reporting any income to the state. they applied to the state agency for food stamps. we are talking about people, frankly, who need work readiness skills, need to get into the workforce. we have a labor shortage. we have 6.5 million jobs not filled. the lowest participation rate, among the lowest we have had

since world war ii. only about 62% of the able-bodied adults between 18-65 are in the workforce. so we are trying to get people into a job. that will be the best opportunity and the best for them to provide for their families. the best path to improvement of the economic condition is work. host: our guest talking about the farm bill and related issues. if you want to ask him a question, democrats, 202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. how does the federal government currently track those who get snap benefits and if they have the ability to work? guest: it is done with the states. one of the things we are doing in the bill is trying to have a better handle on people, how long they are on snap, what kind of products they are buying, the food they are buying with the benefits, etc. a lot of the data is not yet available, but we know that we

have approximately 3,000,000-5,000,000, depending on how you count it, people who are able-bodied, 18-59. out of the 44 million on food stamps, the vast majority are utterly, disabled -- elderly, disabled, or children. or parents, primarily women, with children six and under in the home. that is the bulk of people and we are not affecting them. what we're trying to do is push or product people who are able -- prod people who are able-bodied to get into training. we provide the money to get them into training, into employment programs, because every employer in my district that i speak with an upstate new york says they have jobs, but they cannot find qualified people to fill the jobs. we have a gap between the skills employers need and the ability of a lot of people, so we need to fix that by training programs, etc.

host: you mentioned some of those bringing up immigration as a means of keeping the bill from passing. there was a quote saying, "the house from caucus is to blame. when you have a lame-duck speaker who announces he is leaving in advance, who will care?" is it a speaker issue? guest: i do not think it is a speaker ryan issue. he should stay in his job to the end of the term. the worst thing the republican majority could do is create an environment where people are jockeying for leadership posts now. which side will have the majority? i am only a freshman, but i have been around politics and i would caution my colleagues, do not count your chickens before they are hatched. let's make sure we come back to a republican majority, where then we can elect a speaker.

i am supportive of kevin mccarthy. this kind of jockeying at this stage does nobody any good. it does not help the agenda and it does not exist us in holding onto the majority. host: one of the efforts related to immigration is the idea of a daca discharge position. -- petition. guest: i have signed the petition, one of 20 and i think that there will be more. it is being led by jeff denham, my colleagues from california and photo respectively, what it says is the house should vote on this issue. we should vote on the immigration proposals that have been knocked around for the last year and a half. we are running out of time in this legislative session. i want to fix the docket issue the daca issue.

we need to fix border security. all around this country, farmers need a steady stream of agricultural labor who can come into the country and work, go back to their home countries, etc. we needed exhibitions process. and -- expeditious process. and we have this in the bill. there are other pieces on august culture that i am not -- on agriculture that i am not sold on yet, but we are saying let the house work its will. i believe if you had a reasonable bill with border security that took care of the daca situation, that dealt with things like merit-based immigration, and also dealt with and fixed the agricultural labor issue, i think you would get 300 votes in the house on that bill. there will be people on the far right who will not vote for anything. you have people on the far left

who basically want open borders and do not care about border security. that is how i look at it. they will not vote for a bipartisan compromise bill, but i think that there is the basis of a proposal that could get 300 votes in the house. host: we have a call from virginia beach, independent line. john faso.with caller: good morning, i have several questions and comments. he does not have to answer until i hang up. how much is a half gallon of milk? does he know that? what i mainly want to know is, why do we need a farm bill? that a free market economy the president and congressman advocate, so where we subsidizing farmers? where we been led to believe -- why are we being led to believe

that there are small mom and pop farmers. everybody knows that they are factory farms. why if they do not believe in entitlement or subsidizing, yet we are subsidizing these farms? even members of congress have seen money from these subsidies. host: ok. let's leave it there for the congressman. guest: half gallon of milk, $1.89. it is a big problem in upstate new york, and in our dairy communities, farmers getting paid about 30% less further milk than it costs to produce it. this has been a big killer on dairy farm income. and it is questioning the sustainability of many of these dairy farms. the reason we have a farm bill is that americans enjoy the lowest priced food of any country in the world.

the commodity products, where we have insurance, and for other products in the agricultural system, we basically want to make sure that there is crop insurance so if a farmer plants corn or cotton, the farmer has the ability, with insurance, if the drought damages the crop, because it is a high risk enterprise. you need to put a lot of capital together in order to plant your crops. on the dairy side, we want to improve a system that has not worked well, that would give them protection from the costs of feed, for instance, in the northeast. the reason we have a farm bill is we want a stable agricultural community. we export a tremendous amount of food. it is a benefit to our economy. and we are feeding not just the united states, but the world.

american agriculture is bar none the best in the world in a we have a farm bill to make sure that american agriculture is sustainable in protected. host: republican line in ohio. line go to the democrats in ohio, thelma. caller: i would like to know where he feels all this education for people on the food program -- do they have to move? there are a lot of areas you do not have this education that he is talking about. guest: that is a good question. ourme tell you, there existing programs all throughout the country at the state and local level. we fund those, the states do as well. local, private business consortia, unions sponsored

apprenticeship programs. so there is no shortage of these programs. the other point i would make is in the bill, the states are able to wave about 15% of the potential work required recipients out of that requirement, if there were, as you really point out there might be inappropriate program for them that is accessible or easy to get to. this is not a perfect solution, but it is a solution we need. i think most taxpayers expect if you are getting benefits from the government, and he were able-bodied and not working, they expected to get off of your butt and work. host: ron in south dakota. caller: i follow agriculture in south dakota a little bit and the congressman talks about having these crop insurances, but a lot of the money goes into

the pockets of the big farmers. what i see happening is the farmers are overproducing crops, overproducing corn, the dairy farmers have overproduced milk, and there are other crops they can grow. find out which crops are imported and grow those. and i guess my major question would be, a lot of these farmers do not pay much in taxes, they write everything off as a business expense. are they trying to turn agriculture into a tax-free business? incomein actuality, farm has been down 50% in the last four years. we have had a serious issue with this. i disagree with the gentleman's premise and contention. what we are trying to do is make sure american agriculture is strong, we want to make sure that american agriculture can export to the world, because

that is a very good benefit for us in terms of our balance of payments. you heard the president talk about balance of payments and our exports in agriculture are very good. i hope we can conclude good trade negotiations with our partners in mexico and canada in nafta, because 40% of our dairy exports go to mexico. we have trade disagreements with candidate on dairy and softwood lumber, but by and large we have a very good relationship, especially in new york we have over 6000 jobs that depend on u.s. canada trade. i think the premise was incorrect. i think there will be people who try to take advantage of any government program, but by and large we found that these programs are operating efficiently for the taxpayer at a relatively modest cost when you consider the vast majority of expense in the farm bill is actually 80% of it is the snap

program. we want to make sure that people who are poor, who have kids at home, disabled people, that everybody has enough to eat. that is important to note. host: how does this not -- the snap program deal with the purchase of junk food? tost: i asked for permission offer an amendment to restrict soda from being able to be purchased with snap benefits. the rules committee did not find it appropriate to let me offer that amendment, so i will come back and i will try to do it again. host: why the push back? guest: when of the great mystery is he never really hear. i respect the process, but the fact is this issue has come up repeatedly. it came up in some of our discussions in the agricultural committee. soda wasn i focused on

because there is no nutritional benefit to soda and we have a diabetes and obesity issue in this country that is costing us a lot of money from public health programs, such as medicaid and medicare. but this is also controversial, because obviously it upsets some apple carts of people. i tried to offer that amendment and i was unsuccessful in getting permission to offer it, but i was indulged in three other amendments that were adopted into the bill. host: would you like to see it go to other types of food not been able to be purchased under snap? guest: down the road, if we have more information, i certainly would, but i think it is a hard get to say, you cannot lunch. for your kids''s

i do not want to be the food police. at the same time, something so obviously a health problem, excessive consumption of sugar beverages, we should address that with taxpayer money. host: we have a call on the democrats line from missouri. guest: hello. right now, the dairy men are getting 400 pounds of milk at the same price they were in 1980. so we have a senator here that has three of his family working as lobbyists for kraft foods. they want cheaper milk. we also have their amen in california -- dairy men in california using illegal mexicans to milk their cows.

you have decimated the small dairy farmers in the united states. thank you very much for c-span. guest: i really sympathize with what the gentleman said. i have a lot of those small dairies in my district. i also have dairies that have even 2000 cows, dairies that have gone to robotic milkers because of the labor shortage. those robotic milkers cost about $70,000 a clip. one farmer has seven of them. it is remarkable. milkeds walk in to get three times a day. they really like the feed they are provided and they come by themselves. it is a great way to keep track of the production and quality. but the anomaly with dairy is this. when the price goes up, dairy farmers produce more. when the price goes down, dairy

farmers produce still more. than normal rules of supply and demand do not seem to work here. for the real issue with fluid milk is lack of consumption. consumers are often buying other things that are labeled as milk milk.ond milk, soy this is not really milk. they are not coming from an animal. we need to promote the consumption of milk. it is healthy for children, it is good for you. i enjoy a glass of milk. i can tell you that milk products, dairy products, are extremely important to your diet . this is, the long-term trend has been declining consumption and that is the biggest problem here. host: john in louisiana, republican line. caller: hello. guest: good morning. caller: i was calling about the

food stamp program. people i know personally who are working, making $700, $900 a week cash, so there is no way to check on it. health carent programs and they do not pay anything. my wife works. i am on social security right now, 70 years old, and i still have to pay on my medical. guest: john, there is certainly some fraud. and the estimates vary in this regard, but keep in mind one estimate that is very conservative has said that fraud is only 1% of the snap program. it is a $60 billion program right now. so even in washington, even in

the crazy accounting of washington, that is a lot of money. i have also heard from county sheriffs in my district that they often find when they arrest people on drug crimes, that they have an ebt card. certainly. everyone, i would not contend that fraud is rampant in the program, but like i said before, any government program will be manipulated by some people who are unscrupulous. host: from texas, another john. hello. caller: thank you for being here c-span. folkscomment, i know that have been working hard on this bill. it looks like they put a lot of effort into it. but we are in the heart of the agricultural belt up in north corn, dairy,on,

you name it. program stamps and snap is where we may have some swamp, but looking at the swamp situation there was an old saying iran into in the military, that when you went taiwan and he taiwan and he wod with the chinese, they would say the americans will come for four years, the chinese have been here for 4000 years, and we just shuffled things around and the next thing we know we are back to doing the same thing we were, so we never have to change. guest: i appreciate his comments. i think we will go to the next caller. host: when it comes to daca, leadership has said the infighting's, particularly over daca could cost the midterm

elections. do you buy that argument? guest: no, not doing anything is a bigger political risk. frankly, i am concerned about the policies. at the end of the day, i want to fix this. this is why i ran for office, to fix problems. we have a serious problem with border security and we have ways to address that. those ways are outlined in a number of proposals i have supported. we have 800,000-1,000,000 young adults who were brought here as children, under 16, who have lived only in america for most of their lives. one isd a process -- no going to deport them. we need a process whereby they can come if they are in good standing, getting an education, have a job, in the military, have no criminal record, those people should have an opportunity to stay in the

country and ultimately become a citizen. that to me is just common sense. some on thet to -- right will say, that is amnesty. that is making them a legal process, that is not amnesty. that is not just waving a magic wand and saying you will be citizens come o. we are setting up a process over a number of years that these folks will be able to normalize their status, get a green card, ultimately apply for citizenship. but they will have to go through a lot of steps to get there. so i do not want to give someone a step ahead on the line for people who come through legally, but we have to have a secure so i do notborder, we have to hm in our country where the borders are respected, the laws are respected. if we do not deal with this

situation, 15 years from now we will be dealing with daca all over again. host: independent line from jackson, michigan. don. guest: hello -- caller: hello. i want to talk about the snap program. i do not know if you compare prices among the states, but in michigan you apply for food stamps, you are on social security or disability, and a little pension. due to nafta. you go to the grocery store, you say you get a gallon of milk for $1.89. guest: a half gallon. caller: you are right. when you pay for it, it trickles down to -- i get $16 a month. so does everybody i know.

they are all on social security. they say, we are way behind. we are behind or below the poverty line. if item in poverty, why in my only getting $16 worth of food only getting $60 worth of food stamps? guest: it is for people at 130% of poverty, that is the eligibility. states have been able to expand that. this is one of those points of contention between democrats and republicans on the bill. expand it to 200% of poverty, with certain criteria that they have established, and it really widely varies. other states, like illinois and california, have avoided the imposition of any work requirements by declaring the whole state to be an area that is suffering from severe unemployment, which is nonsense. we have an unemployment rate,

which is very low. we technically are at full employment, and we have a lot of people who could be in the workforce that are not and they are not counted in that data. not a part of that data. i cannot speak to that gentleman's specific situation. he would not be someone on disability or social security. he will not be required to have a work requirement. is a separategets issue. it depends on what his assets are. in this bill, reraise the asset level, so a family can have a $2000 savings account. or a car which will enable someone to drive a car without counting against their eligibility. host: one more call, stephen and north carolina. -- stephen in the north carolina. caller: there is one farmer here where i live who has about

$200,000 a year in subsidies for the past five years. he goes in a neighboring county and buys of all the land he can to far more to get more subsidies to farm or. it looks like these -- farm more. it looks like the subsidies are going to people who are making money. guest: in these programs, you will find some anomalies. you will find people who are perhaps taking advantage of it. we should make sure that does not happen. john faso of new york, and for joining us. guest: thanks. host: we will start off with a question -- which party would do you trust to drain the swamp? democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002.

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theington, d.c., and around country. c-span is brought to satellite or cable provider. >> "washington journal" continues. host: which party do you trust to drain the swamp? you can let us know your thoughts atdemocrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002. on twitter, you can reach us at at @cspanwj. -- us this poll asked americans about the president's ability to "drain the swamp." standings are at 41%. it talks about 81% of americans saying the way the president runs his administration, 12% say he is conventional as his

predecessors. 2% volunteer he is more conditional. it quotes the people behind the poll, saying most americans walk into the area with eyes wide open about what he can bring to the table. i think the few who think may be political pundits and the media. that calls to the idea the president proposed during the administrations about draining the swamp your do may agree or disagree. you may think democrats, republicans, or no party at all. you can let us know on facebook and twitter. we start with nicholas in maryland on the democrat line. candidatey party or that advocates term limits -- let me elaborate.

politician who stays in power for a long-term becomes corrupted by special interests, but the type of candidates willing to run for a position if there would be term limits. it would be the candidate more disoriented rather than career-oriented. host: trinity, florida, tim is line.? the democrats' caller: how are you? clearly, everybody said it in their campaign speeches. i feel donny is the only one to do it. host: what do you base that on? caller: he was always talking

rma, bige big pha companies, and the tax breaks they get. i feel this is what he would do to get it in order. of course, universal health care. it is all connected. [laughter] host: from michigan, carol, independent line. caller: good morning. i am a first time caller. is draining the swamp is the party of republican thesebecause of corporations and billionaires. -- billionaires not paying their fair share in taxes. also, the democrats. they need to have term limits. -- term limits and the

republicans, term limits when it comes to public offices, ok? they stay in congress forever. that is draining the swamp. host: that is carol in michigan. onr thoughts this morning draining the swamp. you can give your thinking of what it means and which party is best at doing it. you can participate on our facebook and twitter feeds. if you want to give us a call -- democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002. trump is set to meet with south korea's president today to talk about relations with that country and north korea. "the wall street journal's reporter wrote, both sides made goodwill gestures.

south korea's scrapped plans to join a training exercise with u.s. bombers after north korea expressed concerns that would royal at the thames at diplomacy. mr. trump wrote on twitter on monday, china needed to keep sanctions on north korea until a deal is signed, expressing ongangns py was already reaping the benefits. a look at south korea's perspective as what they see as snacks when they come to talks. -- this is an of writing, there are several landmines between north korea and the u.s. man -- one of the landmines

just exploded. john bolton told a radio station -- auth korea it would lawmaker in moon's ruling party -- moon's party agreed. national security advisor's background well. performance strong in the george dubya bush administration during the invasion of iraq and -- george w bush administration during the invasion of iraq. mike pompeo in washington, d.c., talked about what he sees as a topic process in dealing with iran sanctions. part of the process and speaking to the crowd in washington, d.c., yesterday. he directed a message to the iranian leadership and the

iranian people. here is part of it. [video clip] >> now, it is time for the supreme leader and leader of the iran regime to do something for its nation. clear as to the nature of this regime. our ears are open to what may be possible. unlike the previous administration, we look at how comes to benefit the iranian people, not just the regime. especially if the leaders doubt the president's vision, look at our diplomacy with north korea, our willingness to meet with kim jong un -- solve the greatest challenges. even with our staunchest adversaries. let that willingness -- that pressuress with a campaign to resolve this challenge forever.

leaders, understand your current activities will be met with steely resolve. is to theessage today iranian people. i want to repeat president trump's words from october. president trump said we stand in total solidarity with the longests regime's suffering people come the iranian people. they paid a heavy price for the extremism of their leaders. they long to reclaim their country's culture, history, civilization, and cooperation with its neighbors. our laborsca's hope for -- our -- host:'s full statement is available at c-span.org. -- his full statement is available at c-span.org. more on your calls on which

party is drain the swamp. richard in nebraska on the democrats line. caller: hello. it is not a swamp anymore. sewer. full-fledged host: if that is the case, which party do you think would correct it? caller: the democrat party could correct it. host: how so? different policies they have. host: you think one policy should -- if there is one policy -- if they could push one policy, what do you think it could be? caller: it is not necessarily a policy. it is mostly honesty. host: ok. let's go to shawn, baltimore, maryland, independent. caller: good morning. i will go with the libertarian party. i cannot trust the democrats. i voted democrat for a wild. -- a while.

progressive.ing to i wanted to vote the republican, but trump -- as the previous it into ad, he turned septic tank, but i would say a tank.eptic if you listen to rand paul when he first got in, he is still talking the same about the war on drugs affecting black people. he wants to get rid of it. he also talked about all of these endless wars. they need to stop. he is always preaching about being fiscally responsible. the republican party turned his back on him. he tried to pass a bill, i am not too sure, but it is time to get the libertarian party a chance. they are the only ones who seem

they have the common sense. trump is a disaster. if the democrats were to get back in, they would go super left, progressive, and turn this country into chaos, too. it is time to give rand paul and the libertarian party a chance. host: the democrats are unleashing -- democrats of proposalseries to drain the swamp. if you want to see them, go to c-span.org. you can make comments on our phone lines and on our social media feeds. jack on our republican line, go ahead. caller: i believe the republican party will be the best data draining the swamp. ateel like trump has -- best draining the swamp. i feel like trump has done his best than in the last 16 years. who hasike he is a man

a history of doing things and standing up and sizing a situation up and moving things forward. host: as far as specifics, what would you look at and say that is a demonstration of draining the swamp? caller: the unemployment rate. that in itself, look at the global economy. next, providence, rhode island, independent line. caller: hello. good morning. my feeling on what trump is doing is congress ought to work with him. they are turning their backs on him. .or instance, the opioid crisis

where has it gone? what have they done? they have done nothing. c-span and i hear a comment from mcconnell on some bill. i do not know which one it was specifically. he said we would not take that up. how does he make that decision? host: paul, what about the idea of draining the swamp? what you think of it as far as which party is better at it? caller: i think trump is better at it. i do not think either one are working with them to drain the swamp. if he has a spot on his tie, they are talking about it. on reporting that is going is crazy. you do not hear the truth. host: what comes to the mamas to arsity poll t ----

university poll, 35% said the president made progress on his campaign promise. he has made the swamp worse. it marks the fourth time monmouth asked the question. 33% think the country is headed in the right direction. 58% to say things have gone off of the wrong track. republican, kimberly in pennsylvania. caller: good morning. is neither side will drain the swamp sense they are the swamp. peopleve the marriage of will do it when they vote these people out during reelection. we started that by jews an

outsider to begin with. we need to vote and get rid of them. by voting an that outsider to begin with. we need to get rid of them. anybody going against commonsense logic. anybody obstructing a networking. host: hadi think the president is changing that? -- how do you think the president is changing that? caller: we are talking to so-called enemies instead of fighting with them. he is getting rid of illegals that are criminals. ms-13 i would not consider human, personally. we are all considered animals. host: the independent line is next, nathan from eugene, oregon. caller: good morning. good morning, fellow citizens. think you for c-span. thank you for taking my call.

-- thank you for c-span. they do for taking my call. i do not think anything will drain the swamp. i like how you ask what is the swamp? americadparents -- the our grandparents built after world war ii does not exist anymore. the world is not exist as it did anymore. uncertainties and people not able to deal with the uncertainties. i wish bernie became president. i think people are worried about socialism. power areh money in able to employ and manipulate the free market. it is not a free market anymore. they create wealth out of nothing. you are able to buy the government. host: in that mindset, that is the definition of these one for you or is there another? caller: it is multifaceted, pedro. for me, the biggest issue is the

environment. society is, the embedded in the environment. if you do not take care of it, you do not have anything else. what i read is there is another phase shift in the equilibrium. most of humanity is not ready to adapt quickly enough. it will sound radical, but you may as well have a nonnuclear beenith china and russia addressed issues -- russia than address issues. host: ok, thank you. on usa today, a look at the air marshal program put into effect after 9/11. a profile of it and its cost being done by bart jansen. trieste, the scenario -- to like an explosive an issue. when the flight attendant getlenges him, a man yells,

back and threatening passengers with a knife. an air marshal shoots both men, saying threat over. some lawmakers and critics in watchdog agencies say if the program has peaked. if it has never caught a terrorist on a plane, is it needed? after the 9/11 hijackings. it goes on from there. sur jansen -- bart jansen' profile is available to you on usa today. in the idea of draining the swamp and the party best to do it. tell us what you think the swamp is before you go into deciding which party would be able to do it. democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002. next, jenny,a is

republican. caller: good morning. republicans. i am 100% trump. i think trump is trying to drain the swamp. unfortunately, some of the republicans are part of the swamp as well as the democrats. to me, the swamp is the corruption in the democratic and republican party. they are against trump. we need to get rid of them. host: how do you think this president is getting rid of the corruption? rider: he is trying to get of -- replace the obama people and the people who are against him, trying to stop americans from having a better country. when people vote, they better vote in the republicans. i believe in term emits. these people are getting rich from -- term limits. these people are getting rich. i have another question -- whatever happened to the

politicians who paid to a race sex scandals? whatever happened to that? whatever happened to all the scandals that came out and got buried in the news? what happened to the list of , who areo are hiding pay to keep people quiet? there is to much corruption and i think trump is trying to fix it. i believe more republicans will be able to drain the swamp, drained the corrupt politicians, and maybe this country can move forward. int: we will go to ken huntington beach, california, independent line. caller: thank you. i appreciate your show. i do not think you'll completely be able to drain the swamp. degree -- trump, to a degree, is a swamp. the only way you can get a

handle on it is to change the way lobbyists are put into washington. ought to -- total should have less than one third of lobbyists, two thirds of the lobbyist should be for the american people and the needs. theyspect to the fact that have not done much for the country itself in the last 35, 40 years. restrictn do that and the number of lobbyists overall, you will be on the right path. host: that is ken in california. on twitter, the idea of draining the small adds this -- when it comes to citizen use night at -- citizens united have to go first #period.

katie on be -- we will hear next from willy. caller: good morning. i do not trust either party. toablishments, basically, drain the swamp. here's my definition of the swamp. it is the cabal of all the individuals who keep all of the government under working nontransparent. i'm talking about corruption and not corruption. anything that is not constitutional. how to illustrated -- -- illustrate it -- the fbi activity with the dossier and the shadow government trying to get rid of -- nullify the election. none of that was supposed to be known. we would not know what if clinton or any establishments republican had been elected as president.

way we can truly drain the swamp is what we have going on right now, a non-establishment republican who can look in the government -- look the government in the face and tell them exactly -- and tell the people exactly what is going on. host: larry on the democrats line from tennessee. caller: the issue with your question, draining the swamp. all of the people there are corrupt -- are part of the problem. i do not believe that. democrats try to protect -- the social security aspect of it. medicare, medicaid aspect of it.

the broad programs gives people a handout. help womenwho overcome when they got raped or pregnant when they do not want to be pregnant and handled that situation for that. host: one more call from oklahoma, democrats line, doug. part of the swamp started in 2001 with president inh when we got involved wars after bombing. i agree going into afghanistan, but not iraq. is a great bit of the

swamp started. the housing leveled andy hedge fund -- leveled and the hedge fund things. thanks for calling. the last call on this topic. coming up, al green will be here to talk about his calls to impeach president trump. later on, erich bergin and henry for funding of federal arts programs. coming up on "washington journal." ♪ >> i think the most important thing the leaders of our great ourtry can do is protect rights as citizens.

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texas. light for youro constant calls for impeachment of donald trump. why do you make this your case? guest: it is about our democracy, republic, and making -- the president has committed impeachable acts. his deeds are deemed to be a high misdemeanor. the only difference between my position in the position of many of my colleagues is a want to do something about the misdeeds. many want to talk about it. host: who are those who want to talk about it? does that include nancy pelosi and other leadership? guest: i allow the public to make decisions about what others will do and let others tell you what they will do. it is clear that are colleagues who question the president's

fitness to be in all -- in office, but do not want to do anything about it. my suspicion is as the woman some builds, we will see more of those wanting to see impeachment. if you listen to talking heads on various talk shows, they will talk about everything but the word impeachment. they seem to contort themselves into a position that the senate and house may have do something. they will not say what the something is. there seems to be in a version of uttering the word impeachment. it is what the constitution says. they had a person in mind when they said no person would be beyond justice. host: what is a specific offense

the president has done that qualifies for impeachment? dishonesty, his ability to contort and misconstrue. that can be impeachable because of the harm it imposes upon society. the impeachment articles i brought before congress -- only twice, by the way -- they dealt with his immediate dissemination, bigotry evidenced in his policies. when you have policies emanating from the presidency rooted in bigotry, we should impeach the president. the president talked about the african countries and use the s -hole word, he was discussing policy. we have the right as the member of congress to challenge it. we will not let it stand.

barring muslims from other country, saying there were fine people among those in charlottesville, calling the players -- professional players, calling their mom's dog. those are the kinds of things that are bigotry the constitution gives any member of congress to bring before the floor of the house. i am such a member. i will protect the constitution and people. host: representative green is our guest until 9:00. if you have questions -- democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002. you can post questions or comments on our twitter feed. representative green talked about this idea about impeachment and what it may result in. i want to play this. [video clip] >> this november, every american will face a choice. they say if the house does not

-- you have great congressman. these are great people. these are great, great people. [applause] thank you. we have to keep the house. because if you listen to maxine waters -- [booing] she goes around saying, we will impeach him. we will impeach him. people say, but he has not done anything wrong. it does not matter. we will impeach the president. i do not think we will have a people atpy that happens. i think it will be a little bit tough. she goes around, and some others, i want to impeach him. we have to win the house. you know what? we will win anyway. host: on top of that, nancy pelosi said democrats speak

about impeachment is a gift to republicans as the midterm approaches. guest: it is not a gift to republicans. this is a means of maintaining the republic. that is what article 2, section 4 is about. i want to protect the constitution. with reference to the presiden'' s comments, i do not know if he has read the federalist papers. alexander hamilton talks about how this is not going to be an easy process. he talks about how there is partisanship. he talks about how it will be a tough decision for the country to make. this is the kind of thing that was anticipated. us crying out our very best for people to understand the process. when we started, people thought

you have to commit a crime. now, people understand you do not have to commit a crime to be impeached. it is an opportunity to do all we can to protect the republic, not a gift to republicans. host: we have calls for you. the first one is mike from houston. go ahead. person is not held. .e has not -- is not help he has not helped texas. he is a liar. he should be voted out, like maxine waters. they steal from the republican party. they steal all of the slogans -- everything. host: mike, do you have a specific question for him? caller: yes. will he resign? will he let someone younger run instead of him working the system?

that is all he does. host: ok. the presented of green. -- representative green. guest: he is not the only one with this opinion. many of them are threatening. i have had to alter a lot of my life because of people who make threats. choosetever reason, they to believe free speech is not available to me, but it is available to the president. the president can make incendiary comments and i cannot respond to them. i should just be quiet and let the president go on about his business of destroying the norms in our society. i will not do that. to this gentleman and all of the who havers, especially made threatening comments, i will not be intimidated. i will not falter. i will not falter. i will stay the course. if the president continues with

his bigotry, there will be additional impeachment brought before the house. host: linda from michigan on the democrats line. caller: why has the senate not request the president show his taxes? that is a federal offense. if i did not show my taxes or if i did not file my taxes, the government would be looking for me. why the democrats let him get away with the criminal things he is doing like pay to play? he is doing it more and more each day. guest: it is not an offense for the president to withhold his taxes. he should reveal them. it would give us insight into whether or not the emoluments clause has been reached in some way. it is not an offense.

actions taken by others, democrats if you will, members of congress, we should do more. we should have debates about the president's behavior. to voteuld be a prelude up or down on articles of impeachment. that is what i have gone so far to bring articles of impeachment twice. i will bring them again. president committed an impeachable act with the fire the person who was investigating at and went on national tv content and indicated he did it because of the investigation. the russian thing, as he called it. you cannot fire the person investigating. you can do it in the sense as you have the power, but you cannot do it with impunity. you cannot do it without repercussions. the president knows he made an impeachable act.

which is why he tries to misdirect and cause us to do anything but investigate properly his actions. i see an opportunity for an investigation in robert muller to take place. i do not see a recommendation from him we impeach. he is investigating criminality. he is on the judicial side of this. he is investigating something that -- he is not going to say we should impeach him. congress. impeachable acts made, i do not know what he will say. the public is very aware of this behavior, this insidious behavior. the public wants to see action from congress. host: is democrats take back the thee in november, what is

likelihood of nancy pelosi bringing up and impeachment charge? guest: i cannot speak about her actions. notint salient and often referenced. every member of the house is accorded the opportunity to bring up impeachment. this is not something the constitution has stowed upon me. it is something every member has the right and privilege of doing. i am not sure if there are members who will wait for someone else if that someone else is declining to do it. we can all do it. likelihood there will be articles of impeachment. host: have you heard directly from the minority leader about these efforts, specifically asking you to stop or hold back? anything along those lines? guest: if you have read publications, it is obvious to

the most casual observer she and i are in different places on this. i respect her position. i have great respect for the speaker. what the speaker, always a speaker. i have great respect for her. i trust she has a level of respect for me. she understands what my conscience dictates. host: from florida, brian. caller: good morning. time -- from day one, has there been a time when a president should have been impeached? guest: andrew johnson was impeached. as was the case with president clinton. there were not convicted in the senate, but they were impeached. have federalis we

judges. they have been convicted. yes, there have been times. inre are records of people peach and convicted in the senate. host: from the nl, oscar on the democrats -- from vienna on the democrats line, oscar. it is important to understand president trump is reforming. -- reforming foreign policy. he is conduct is unbecoming of a president. his conduct with the illegal ban, muslim ban -- we have to remind everyone -- bill clinton was not impeached, but he was acquitted in the senate. his actions did not involve congress. it was a personal issue.

actionsald trump, his -- i would like to explain -- like you to explain. does any member of ephraim caucus represent -- of the freedom caucus support your push for impeachment? host: thanks. guest: the president is unfit for the job. he is unfit to be president. many of my colleagues agree with me. the difference between my position and there's is i want to do -- and theirs is i want to do something about it. president would do bastardly things. andnnot allow myself to sit

see what is happening to my country. -- eugene has a column about the misdeeds of his president -- of the president. at some point, congress has to take additional action. to me, it will not matter if i get a majority of the house to vote one way or another. there will be a second vote. what is important to me is my record will show i did all that i could. maybe i cannot do enough, but i did all that i could to protect liberties and justices for all. host: what you heard from republicans on your efforts? people want to know, but i have had a republican member who said i am

strongly considering impeachment now. i can only say to you my position is there are others who believe we have reached that point in our history. it is a difficult bridge for some to cross. for me, it is not about the difficulty as it is the necessity to do something about an unfit president. host: bill is from missouri on the republican line. congressmen, i am enjoying listening to you. i live in a gerrymandered district. i can appreciate what you are saying from a different perspective. one thought i have is donald trump would relish an impeachment. he would think it is the greatest show on earth. constitutionally, it would be. he inks he could probably beat

you. i wonder if he has thought about -- he thinks could he could probably beat you. i wonder if he has thought about it. guest: what i try to do is look at it at a perspective of a member in congress to understand what article two, section four is about. understand that george mason pushed for us to make sure the president was not beyond justice . understanding these things, i focus on what i must do as a member of congress. i am not insisting anyone do they do other than what what their conscious dictates. my conscious to takes -- conscious dictates i do something. please do not do something you

would not do if your conscious dictates it. let me pursue what i believe is harm done to our society. a good many people agree with me. agree other hand, other to take steps to do something about it. 66 members6 -- had vote for impeachment. of would be chairpersons full committees are subcommittees. we have people who believe this is appropriate and want to do some thing about it. the momentum has to bill for -- to build for this. when rosa parks took that seat on the bus, she did not believe .he would end discrimination she knew it would be a step.

there are steps that must be taken. host: what body in congress has to determine impeachment? what is the threshold to determine if an of impeachable offense has been done? guest: the house has jurisdiction. it is the house of representatives. the president of the united states, if he is impeached in the house, then, it goes to the senate, which will have a trial presided over the chief justice of the supreme court. if the senate convicts the president, the president will be removed from the office. it is likely to happen if robert muller gives a report that is strong to the extent that republicans will start to defect, then it is likely to happen. i do not consider myself as much with the likelihood as i do with the fact the offense has been committed. many people have been prosecuted

in this country for offenses they have committed. they do not get to tell the prosecutor, you should not investigate me. hey do not get to the fame -- as the president has for his own justice department. my duty is to bring the case to the jury and let them decide. host: bob from tennessee on the republican line. caller: good morning. would you care to state what your net worth was and what it is right now? what have you done for your own constituents? guest: my net worth is something that has been made public. i do not cap my money the same way as well made it public accountant. -- do not count my money the it wasy as well as

publicly accounted. i respect the constitution allowed you to have that opinion. i trust you would respect my right to have my opinion based on facts, not based on suspicion based on my disdain for a person. my belief is the president possibly a your is what we must talk about. -- behavior is evident of his bigotry, which has penetrated his policy, which impacts all of us in this country, even you. host: in new jersey, kevin, independent. caller: yes, hello. thank you c-span. -- to are, c-span. representative -- thank you, c-span. the lowestive green,

black unemployment in modern history. trump donated $1 million after the hurricane. i wonder how much you donated to houston. 40% of the country is backing him. you do not feel you would be slapping them in the face for their vote? never slept the president in any way. -- never slap the president in any way. i refer to him as the president. i respect the fact he was elected. this is not negate the fact when his behavior is harmful to society, the framers of the constitution provided a remedy for his behavior. the remedy is impeachment for the misdeed -- misdemeanors as indicated in article two,

section four. support of 90% of the people had behaved this way, my position would be the same. you do not allow this kind of behavior to go unchallenged. the people who would judge our behavior, many of them have not been born yet. blinded by the circumstances we have to exist on a daily basis with friends and social pressure. i have executed myself from these things. i consider myself a liberated democrat. i could speak truth to power. i can speak truth to power. i will be as truthful as i can be, to make sure people understand it is not about the man. -- man, it is about the country.

it is not about immigrants, it is about democracy. it is not about republicans -- not about to democrats, it is about democracy. it is not about republicans, it is about the republic. host: clayton in indiana, democrats line. about: you are talking the behavior of presidents. you are talking about in preaching trump over minor stuff when you do not stand up and say anything about one obama committed treason -- about when obama committed treason by evening weapons to isis? guest: there are 435 members of congress. i do not recall anyone bringing articles of impeachment. the opportunity to do so. i do not agree with your contention.

host: after the shooting in santa fe, are in any significant act in congress, what is the best way to deal with the school shootings? guest: the best way forward is for significant action to take place in congress. we should debate to the things in the public arena. we should also debate them on the floor of the house of representatives. legislate. it is time for us to vote. we need to know what every person stands on these issues. the notion that the solution is a good guy with a gun. the solution to a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. let's have legislation that says that. vote.call -- let congress we need more background checks. focus ono make sure we

the gun show loophole. guns should be safely locked away, so children cannot access them. money has to be appropriated for it. congress cannot appropriate the give hundreds can of billions of dollars to corporations in tax rebates, then we can fund school security. these are things congress can do. you cannot do it without voting. talking is great, but voting is better. the speaker of the house is the impediment. says hea speaker who will not run again. we have a speaker who will not bring legislation to the floor. we have over 100 pieces of legislation. some of it, i do not agree

with. i believe we should vote on it. it is time to put aside the partisanship and give every member the opportunity to vote on the 100 plus pieces of legislation. if the speakers will not do that, then the speaker ought to step aside. he said he will not run again. speaker, step aside and let us take the votes. this is what the country expects of us. we were collected to vote. the representatives. how can the views of my constituents be known if i cannot vote? mr. speaker, this is your duty, responsibility, and obligations. host: on the republican line. caller: excuse my voice, i have been sick with the flu. i have heard you on the floor. i want to pray for you.

all i hear is negative, negative. avondalel got shot in five or six years ago. we put the detectors and. -- detectors in. we voted for thank you. we're running out of time. guest: i appreciate the prayers. a good many people have reached the point, prayers are not them. for they want to see us take action, they were elected to take action. was to debate and to

vote. our obligation to protect all of having hundred plus bills come before the house and let's vote on them and make how our children are going to be protected. at dren are being murdered school. parents are sending their wary and o school worried whether they exactly home safely. e can do something about this, not by just talking about it and meeting, we have to take votes legislation. i thank you for the time. heather democrat from texas, thank you.ston, guest: thank you. erichcoming up, hear from bergen and henry donahue on funding for arts programs. later in the program look to some primary contests taking across the country and those coming up on "washington journal."

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>> "washington journal" continues. host: joining us to talk about federal funding for arts henry s, two guests, donahue, with h1 save the music actor/musician, erich bergen. thanks for joining us. brings you to capitol hill for funding for arts programs? h1 save the music foundation our mission is restoring music programs in public schools around the country. 21 years we've invested over $50 million of private schools to bring back over 2000 school music programs across the country. of the schools that we serve are title one schools, federal education funding, they serve our most vulnerable children, so we're make sure that the -- every student succeeds act is funded.

title one, title four, including every n arts as part of kid's well-rounded education. you what is the message would like to deliver from capitol hill? guest: i am proof this works. grew up in public schools. i grew up with music education and arts education. very lucky to have it in a public school environment and going into end up the creative field as a business career, most of my friends who came up in the same didn't. that i did, and they credit their music their arts d education growing up as really their lives, in business, any jobs they went to. a really t having strong arts education to that. host: what do you think is attitude from legislators on capitol hill when funding? to arts

guest: actually i continuing is overall pretty good. i think a lot of people want it a lot of people know the research shows kids who have education do better in school and better in life. i think the trouble is always, the funds andding where do we do it when there are need y issues that funding, where does this fall in line. guest: yeah, i think that is right. we find everyone pretty much agrees that music education is a everyone's rt of well-rounded education. the challenge is making it a priority. with all the priorities mr. erich bergen spoke about, hat is attitude from legislators when you want money specifically for these types of programs? guest: seeing positive trend in that direction in contrast to 10 10 years ago during the recession, music programs and arts programs were being cut. people realize that this is a very powerful investment that can make, to erich bergen's

point. i worked in for profit companies 15 years before i got into nonprofits. when i think about the people i hire, good listeners, people good on teams, people who solvers, tive problem those were all things that music powerful way of instilling in kids. talking say, i was with erich bergen before we came on. you know, if you're in math an 85 on the test, that is pretty good, right? you a b, or b plus f. eric goes on stage on broadway starting when? guest: june 5. guest: a plug. only gets 85% of it right, problem. major guest: if you come on june 5, i ight only get 85% right actually. guest: if you think about if you 99 in music, you need to get

plus percent right or you are letting people down. rigor, about discipline, standards, which are things i hink everybody can get -- guest: when you change a child's life by putting them in orchestra or band or anything that. i didn't understand math until i sat down at piano and understood it. i learned about education, one size does not fit all. no standard of education is to work for everyone. why don't we fund another way to even more kids to get a fully well rounded education. ost: our guests with us until 9:30 to talk about federal funding. if you want to ask them phone ns do so on the line. democrats, 202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001. 202-748-8002.ts, a lgs about our guests, save the music foundation, what is it? we think every child in every public school in america has the right to have music as part of their school day.

we partner with school districts, school district commits to bringing the teacher classroom and scheduling it during the school day. capital invest nment each and every school in the district so they have nstruments, the books, the stands, the equipment, we do electronic music making, hardware and software to get the programs off the ground. then we commit to stay with the kid in thatil every district has music education. this year we started 80 new music programs in 32 cities nationwide. talked about rgen his broadway career and you have "jersey boys," and "m "am president," and -- directedwas in a movie by clint eastward and now i'm secretary," and we recreate a sound stage in brooklyn. we love it and we're having a time making the show,

fourth season on sunday night starting fifth season filming soon. host: calls lined up. republican ohio, line. you're on with our guest. go ahead. caller: hi. ask, why shouldo i be paying taxes into this arts when beyonce makes $52.1 roses n a year, guns and 43.3 million a year. iringsteen 42 million a year, make less than $50,000 a year springsteen see concert, i pay them and then you for the ake my taxes arts program? i agree with trump, he should thing.is host: got you. sorry, keep going, go ahead. it -- support guest: that's a great question. it's actually a common misconception. talking, none of the money is going to beyonce. i promise. beyonce.meet

not going to beyonce. almost very little, nothing to do with going into a career in the arts, not talking people to be singers and actors. or money will not go to me anything like that. this is just another form of as a whole.ation music education is a part of a math and tion like science and all those things. these are kids who benefit from are not necessarily going to become someone in the arts.rcial this is going to someone who could become a doctor, a lawyer, a waiter, anyone. guest: that is exactly right. and we do get a lotarts. this is going of support performers like h, and we're grateful for that. not about pop stars, producing citizens and people who make their way in the world. h1 save the music foundation

100% privately funded, but we alone.do it we work with communities and schools and parents and the ecosystem and as erich said, we think music and said, we think music and the arts are critical part of that public school education that we're committed to supporting and also a really powerful tool successful, s more making schools successful. behind the omnibus bill, million dollars given to hat block grant program frchlt there, school consist decide to use those for art programs. guest: that is correct. state puts a plan in place based on local needs and ommunities and schools and appropriate those federal funds. host: the money comes from the does l government, where the rest come from to fund the programs, provide instruments and the like?

you deal with that on day-to-day basis. that is what save the music care of n does, take funds left over when you provide instruments and -- right. the tax funds go to in most property taxes and local school district funds the teacher in the classroom during day.school what we do is make that up front investment of the instruments, books, the stands, one-time investment. successfulit be very and sustainable way to launch these new arts programs. thet: just to continue what caller is talking about, i'm glad he asked that question there is misconception that arta training only benefit if you want to go into art as a career, like a med school for musicians. the case, it's such an important part of well the ed education, all research shows for years now, ince save the music foundation

started, that kids who are in a from an early age do better, graduation rates, rates, they stay in school, that's all this is. this is just another form of educati education. it is is tied to art, not a frivolous thing. the science backs all of this. host: let's hear from bill, houston, texas, independent line. caller: good morning, guys. guest: good morning. caller: you know, it's no secret that music is part of the world greeks knew that 3000 years ago. my experience is most of the funding decisions are made at least in texas. independent school districts are the ones that decide where the is spent and people that in the school districts want to music education, they will vote on that and it will happen. know, to ask --

thinks throwing money is the answer, what about parents buying their kid an letting them practice at home. guest: yeah, we're in favor of parents having kids practice at home. about is talking about 80% of school districts nationwide have this. parepts take it for granted their school will have a chorus, the funds to rent ana instrument and take it home. the 20% of g about american schools, mostly title ne school necessary urban and rural districts where the thents, the kids don't have ability to rent an instrument. year, an't afford $100 a so we provide those instruments o the school and to the district and then that is the incentive for the district to that local decision to

invest in the teacher, figure to scheduling issue to add the school day. you're exactly right. these are local decisions. we're talking about, especially as relates to itle one funds are districts where these are our most at risk where the stricts arents don't have the funds that rent that kid an instrument. host: democrat's line. hi. caller: hi, good morning. you for discussing this, it is so refreshing to hear you music. just a comment and quick question. comment number one, i grew up in inner-city north philadelphia, testament of music education benefiting. as it consultant and attribute my success there for my music background. what i was wondering, how can eople get involved with either reestablishing music that has been dropped in schools or starting something up? it is more than buying

somebody a guitar and say play it at home and that is music it is not.ecause some things are taught in nsemble where again, have you people who aren't even experienced how to do that. people listening help you achieve your goals? uest: thanks so much for asking. go to h1 save the music foundation. of ways that er people can get involved. n general, i would just to the previous caller's point, a lot of decisions are made locally. supporting the music program at your individual school by showing up for things, buying tickets for concerts, by talking to local school board involved in tting understanding as an advocate of her your state has one these plans for the every student succeed act to make sure and art as s music part of education, as donor, as a lot of ways you can

get involved and to the earlier really our is challenge. everyone agrees that music is a everyday. ways ironic organization called save the usic, music doesn't need to be saved in america. what we need to save is that helpseducation piece that children become better students, better citizens, more successful people. comes from learning ensemble work. this is not about just buying someone a guitar and getting dvd how to play the guitar. dvd's still a thing? i don't know. right. ensemble ally is about work. it really is about, you know, as funny as that sounds. you were talking before about hiring people into the work that know how to work in

groups and are creative and comes solvers, that from -- i've done it, you sit here with sheet music and supposed to play your part, you are also looking at 50 other people trying to create one thing. is an education, that is work.uable in any line of it really is about group stuff anything else. host: i'm assuming you had the chance to visit music programs teachers, what is message they are telling you about the state of the program, need for funding, those kind of things? guest: the kids love them and come alive. e see kids who are outcasts, get myself, still am, together with the jocks, the cool kids and it is one of the places where every a school haskid in a place to shine. traditional school

environments, we see kids being is the n about and this are oftene those kids found. host: from john in connecticut, democrat's line, you are on with guest, good morning. caller: good morning. thank you so much. "madam secretary," love c-span. guest: thank you. caller: it is really unfortunate we have to approach this with democrat, republican, independent line. absolutely nonpartisan issue. so having said that, i can't say about supporting arts education. inactually started nonprofit connecticut called alliance for arts education. to the next to move level. creating systems to development sional that is infused, arts infused rofessional development for

nonarts educators. e think that this will enhance colleagues in building, it will eliminate this arts unate calling specials, arts are not specials, arts teachers are fully certified, paid the same salary scale and they can be leaders in buildings. they infuse love of learning in hitting because they're children where they are. host: got you. thank you. appreciate it, sorry to cut you off. is there a specialized music role in a bigger school system? guest: there are certified music teachers and music teacher is a special role. challenging position. i had a music teacher tell me, when you teach math, math is the same subject for everybody in the classroom. flute, teach trumpet,

clarinet, percussion, those are things.ferent yet, we are big believer necessary professional development, big believer developing the teacher pipeline. making aazing teachers lot out of very little all around the country. what about outside the box thinking, his state is dealing ith programs, do you see that going across the united states to make up for difference? guest: it's -- we were talking in the green room. the education landscape across he united states is very diverse in terms of district schools, charter schools, neighborhood schools, school of choice. we see different approaches everywhere, everywhere we go. we're big believer necessary after-school programs, big programs, in community in teaching artists and people things.e to erich bergen's point, to kids the most kids and the

who have it during the school certified teacher. guest: kids in school longer in -- well, any kids watching will hate me for saying this. to keep kids thing in the school building for only benefitsday, parents, the community. bodyin building, a great presence, in a xhunlt, big or small, helps the community on business level. nm, e here this week with instruments,ho sell the music merchants and they see as rom a business level, well. stores benefit, is it performing in the town, big or mall, every restaurant, every

last structure around that performing arts center does well. this is really a community builder. host: from georgia, independent line. hello., from georgia? let's try another. in el centro, california, independent line. you're next up. caller: good morning. one thing that i've learned about music is that it is really math. and i ran training programs for years out here and i set up a cmt machining machining class.

music is math and the students, those that go into learning how to write the music, notes, are really going to be learning math and math is goes on to the second step, machinists are so programming.eir guest: yes. guest: there was no one worse at history of the world than me. -- it is the way i understand anything i'm doing in and comes back to music reading scales, playing the piano, i didn't understand life until i could see it, black and white notes. that is why i understood it. that is really what got me through not being so iano, terribly

bored in school that i failed out. the reason i got through and i'm here is because i -- i had great music and art programs all my life. it got me through. i'm the out. the reason i got proof of exact you're talking about. math, though.at in host: what has legislation been like so far? guest: we really start tomorrow. judging from past years, people spoektiv supportive. might not need three lines for this call n. my experience, this really one of -- i do not know, the last nonpartisan issues on earth. have programs in west virginia, we have programs in we've granted every state or county in west virginia the legislative delegation has been supportive of our work. uest: it is bizarre this is a

partisan issue. everyone across the board likes music, likes art. what we're trying to do is get people to understand that is not just listening to ongs on itunes there is a reason why music is fundamental to a child's learning process, has to be has to be a partisan issue. the more we get people to understand it, it will not be a there is ssue because nothing partisan about music. or education. host: on that front then, take epublicans and democrats and the like. -- we've seen strong support in the bill, in the bill from oth sides of the aisle on funding for music as part of well rounded education and the unding for title one and title four, we're appreciative and looking forward good set of

meetings tomorrow. host: mobile, alabama, next from bill. caller: good morning, gentlemen. tuned in late, you may have already covered this recommendation, are you familiar with the acronym stems, science -- guest: yes. right. yaukt engineering and math. acronym, it in the becomes steam. reinforces the nteraction and the integration of sciences with the arts. thank you. guest: yeah. guest: couldn't agree more. new york, h in independent line. caller: good morning, gentlemen. how are you? morning.od you? guest: well. caller: yeah. was just listening to all of this and i think you're absolutely correct with regard its across the line. this is total common good for whole united he

states, as well as the world. address therapeutic advantages of all of this medically? medical people, but there is certainly been how music at shows alzheeimers, people have better memory skills nature.ngs of that i think it goes in line music is absolutely therapeutic. guest: yeah, i think as erich bergen said, maybe outside my expertise, but from personal experience, yeah, it positive. host: tennessee, memphis, tennessee, democrat's line. stan, hi. kwaukt hi, kwaukt -- caller: hi, stan ship, memphis, tennessee. call it home of the

blues. we don't sing the blues, e do more than singing the blues sax record, thriving records, i wasgh in the record business and had a myself.shop we are kind of, feel like this all over again. here we go again talking about and an american music having foundations to coordinate. we can do that ourselves, we're it ourselves and one thing the ery, very leery of is act that the history of the music here is that people came down. north, baggers from the lived in new york and know something about that, too, and brought in recorders and the prisons and we know about the country,

ledbetter music from prisons and opry, i know about that. host: what would you like our caller to address? think the foundation has to be and should be a local funded -- exactly right. host: thank you. guest: i can take this. i couldn't agree more. thing i want to do is come from new york city or dc new ell everybody in orleans or memphis or nashville or any places about music. first thing we do and we ust did a music convening in new orleans a couple weeks ago, 50 local artists, foundations, music venues, jazz fest, preservation hall were there and and invest in the community and then be able catalyst to e as bring people together.

guest: i grew up music of heart, you r&b at don't want to hear me sing, it is what i fell in love with. i saw that ing changed my life was michael 25.kson on motown it was me discovering something i understood. teacher understand

rying to tell me something to memorize it and write it down to prove i memorized it. i saw the arts, i discover today through mtv, and taught me music and ical everything. hat is when i understood assion and initiative and creation. that's where i started. it definitely came from the barry gordy and motown. sayt: i'm from d.c., i will punk rock. really? guest: yeah, made a huge difference in my life. pictures?there guest: there are, do aggressive googling. out to ian mcguy and discord record and the punk rock i grew up with in dc showed you could make powerful music and of course, and

combine that with passion for social justice. determined the course of my life. host: one more call. california, iego, democrat's line. caller: good morning. history in second grade, the music program, you had to audition for it. i was told i was rejected had no musical aptitude, i didn't let that stop parents bought me a drum set. i self-taught in the garage on playing next to stones aph to rolling and beatles. by eighth grade, i was allowed the school.c in i was combinationa of school-funded d programs, eventually, i graduated high school with i played nors and marine r mat re-- the

corps band. the best drummers were self-taught, with school lessons or they were just strictly self-taught. of the most skilled drum set drummers. different mers are a breed. when i go to a music classroom, who the drummers are, they always have cool hair attitude.tle bit of think our point of view is every child should have access throughout their school career. and good our parents for you and the beatles and rolling stones. think there should be a lot kids fferent on-ramp for with different skills and -- saying this is , e answer to fix education just public school education is should come from.

it comes from having parents who have g kids interest in arts and come from communities who have good arts outside of the school. come from different places. what we're trying to do this sure that on a ederal level that this is addressed and being taken care of. kid's change a lot of lives and save kids lives. host: erich bergen, we heard from. henry donahue with h1 save the music foundation and to both gentlemen, thanks for joining us. open phones until 10:00. it's 202-748-8000 for democrats. 202-748-8001. and independents, 202-748-8002. we'll be right back.

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twitter feed at c-span wj, on facebook feed at facebook.com/c-span. the numbers are on the screen, democrats, 202-748-8000. 202-748-8001 for republicans. 202-748-8002 for independents. barack er president obama and the former first lady michelle obama set to produce specials for netflix, saying they signed to multi year deal o produce shows and documentaries for the streaming platform. the media company said on arrangement with the president and former first lady will allow them to produce to unscripted to documentary series and features. the deal not disclosed. house ar penguin random did books taking a look back at their time in the white house. writing the books and conducting speaking tours, the

deal with netflixsunique obama platform for 125 million streaming members world, that in the wall street snurnl this morning. herndon, virginia, line for democrats, you'll start us off. go ahead. caller: thank you for taking my call. i'm very upset about the way our country is going right now. i find out yesterday what the president is doing to the using hispartment and make sure to stop this investigation, which is i don't who ny way this president, was challenging him. president, how he got to white house by insulting people and using whatever he and no one stop him. now he has green light he can do veryver he wants and it is dangerous that the way we go in

the country right now. one i know that will challenge this president and his stop -- and how to that is the whole thing he is sad this and it is great nation that we built strongly, that is going to get this way. very disappointed that republicans are not standing president to follow rule of law. stop doing something wrong. it is a shame, really does. that is my comment. host: to brian, brian is in independent line. good morning. morning.good well, mr. john podesta came out russia hacked their server, to this day we haven't, server know where the is at, we haven't done a forensic study. say that the, in my

opinion, russia never hacked server. and i would like proof of that. have conflicts of interest uelleral, rosenstein and others. hope it continues. host: again, 202-748-8000 for emocrats to call on open phones. republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. texas, republican line, good morning, you are next. hey, i just got a small problem, a small comment with netflix thing and this kind of stuff. i wish president and secretary of states, once they are done go the civilian world and retire. you don't see the bush's, even bush's, they don't go on t.v. every day and preach about stuff. time is over, ur go back and enjoy your life and stay out of the current

political climate. you for your time. host: do you think president presence made a big since leaving the office? he's hung up. denver, colorado, democrat's line. hi. caller: hi, dave over in denver, like to talk about the school shootings. i mean, they have been blamed on everything from video games to i gs, but the real problem ee is religion, 99.9% of the shooters were christian. that out.nts host: how did you come up with that statistic? statistic? caller: 99.9% of suicide bombers are muslims, look objectively. host: dave, how did you come up with 99.9%? how did you come up with the statistic of 99.9%? aller: well, i mean, overwhelmingly, i mean, it's first they were saying it was

white. not exclusively white, but it is exclusively christian. the suicide bombers are over whelmingly muslim. those points. freddy in maryland, republican line. hi. caller: hi. may name is freddy. 'm calling about the informant who was introduced in the trump campaign. there is anybody out not outrageed with what happened election -- you have problem. i voted for president barack obama twice. i'm so ashamed for what i did corrupt and -- host: i'm sorry, freddy, you are breaking up. i'll have to leave it there. hopper.ephon

axios website says president advisor op campaign to-- trump senior role in the trump administration according to during the transition, harper was recommended for role in asia, he visited eisenhower executive meeting about china. during the transition, everyone involved in the presidential was asked to submit resume for administration positions. halper, who had been interviewing for anti-china book film pitched himself for ambassadorship in asia. navarro says he presented the ambassadorship. and around a dozen other people in the region. you can see more at the axios

website. rob in new mexico, democrat's line. caller: how you doing? host: go ahead. would like to suggest have termion, that we limits on every politician and also, i'm tired of the left and right. cut-up ike in school, and the good guy, i want republican and democrat, democrat. and thank you. host: tonya, west virginia, line.ndent caller: yes, hello. when i went to school in and new york, i being jumped by kids. the idea kids have to go to terrified of be being killed is just obscene. i notice all the whys mass police don't beat them up. hey manage to surrender and be

taken alive. the hostility is not there to them. me, i k man or woman like don't want to jay walk, i don't ant the police to say, we caught you jay walking and who knows what kind of mood i might be in. is tonya, in west virginia, continue in open phones until 10:00. give us a call on the lines and make your thoughts known on our twitter feed. nation, there he are primaries in arkansas, kentucky and georgia. in texas.noff we fol cus on georgia today. o to the front page of the atlanta journal constitution, this is what it looks like. phone, tamar the hollerman for the atlanta good l constitution, morning. guest: thanks for having me. with the d we start open seat in the governor's

mansion, why is there a crowded in this republican primary? guest: sure. two-term republican governor limited thereterm is a ton of energy, particularly to replace him. casey cagle, role as protector of delta er fight against airlines and the legislature. e's run on concept he wants to protect georgia reputation in the south. he wants to do everything he can this legacy the current governor has with triple a bond rating. been campaigning on that. several challengers taken harder immigration,s like -- his etary of state

will round up illegal immigrants himself and driving around in what he calls deportation bus. candidates on the right have pushed closer to the party link angling for voters. has the outgoing who has he ghed in support? ed guest: he really has not, tried far.ay out of the race so unclear where he's going to go. aide said nice things endorseagle, but did not him. they are waiting to see before involved. host: what are democratic challengers looking like? candidates, both are named stacy and both are lawyers state legislat legislature together. would make history if elected. georgia has not elected a female

stacy abrams would be the first black female governor. further to moved the left, but in general, the differences between the two have two lines, the first is handling of this scholarship for college students, popular, the scholarship. -- second has to do with to ing to reach out independent voters to moderate and thinks that will help her win. trying a new s approach. reaching out to minority voters disenfranchised voters who have not turned out, she think she can win. couple races to highlight. georgia six, people remember last cycle, what happens this time around?

guest: sure. race right now definitely does not have the same circus-like atmosphere that we time last year. i think a lot of people are very fact. about that karen, the incumbent does not challenger, been -- and candidates vying for chance to take them including lucy mcbeth, prominent national gun control advocate. a former t.v. broadcaster here who is running nd it is really unclear who is going to make it out of the race. host: one more race to talk wardall, tell us about his race and his chances currently? guest: sure. district is right next door demographics, me republican district, but changing a lot. come in immigrants have recent years and a ton of energy

on the left. after seeing how john did last year, not faced stiff challenges 2010.elected in no fewer than six democrats vying to take him on. lmost all of them are first-time candidates. the woman who has been able to aise the most money so far has been a university professor carolyn bardeaux. do polls open and close and general interest in the midterm? guest: sure. polls have been open for a few hours now and will close at 7. in general, early do polls open on the slower side, but overall it is more in line with 2016.t has been in overall it is not as crazy as we be.ght it was going to after the 2016 election there the his surge of energy on left. overall tis not as crazy as we thought it would be. know.ever and we could see another election in nine weeks, we also

runoffs in georgia. if races don't secure 50% of the we'll do this again in nine weeks. host: atlanta journal tamar hallerman talking about primary day in georgia. so much. caller: thank you. ost: back to open phones, joe in michigan, independent line. caller: good morning. show.e your what i would like to talk about the kids are being used by someone to push gun and they don't understand history, they haven't een educated in their schools as to history and how things happen. armed citizenry, so n case we ever get in a situation where they say, you have to go to a concentration because you're a jew or because you're a christian or

muslim or 're a because you're black or because or because you're gay or whatever reason it may we need an arm population who has the ability to fight and preserve their freedom. host: lexington, kentucky, is next. caller: yes, sir, i want to say by a professor, 'm a grad student, asked by a student to watch it. i was wondering, with all the fake news going on now, what are good news sources you could recommend that i can pay attention to? all i was wondering, sir, thank you for the call. host: i would only recommend a variety of things, i won't recommend specifics, why watching thisk to program, we roll in a lot of different sources, not only from newspapers, but from guests and other things. if you want education on a lot

topics from our perspective or things we have taken in, i'd to go to c-span.org, a lot of information on a topics. of type in the box and you will see things we've done on this from m and this network politics to the white house to congress to social issues and everything in between. available to you for your benefit at c-span.org. line, greg is next. jacksonville, florida. go ahead. caller: hello, my name is greg. i'm calling with a question. like to get an understanding how we can spend millions of music on politics, on programs and the water in flint s polluted and probably polluted across this country and nobody cares. children are just drinking it and dying, can you speak on that? ont: i will let others speak it if they wish. one thing we didn't talk about with the atlanta journal

guest is issues in texas, electoral politics taking "wall street journal" highlighting primary or the primary runoffs taking place highlighting fact in texas democratic congressional ampaign committee tried to ideline political activive carol mowsier against fletcher n houston, the candidates are favored to win elections in two other districts. n kentucky, holding primary elections tuesday, democrats mcgrath, and n amy mayor of lexington, run.cc encouraged to caller: thank you, mayor of pe. 'd like to respond to both the flint, michigan issue and on citizenry issue. the reason america feels it needs to have armed citizenry is

politicians have ailed to take care of the citizenry just like in flint, michigan and detroit, michigan around america. i wish americans would wake up and elect people that really put our tax money toward putting the pot holes in politics filled in. thank you. host: republican line, sid in casemi, florida. caller: hi. good morning. my call. for taking host: you're on, go ahead. caller: okay. here is my question. there was -- i'll be brief, i you have a lot of callers. there was a recent online if -- n that asked, obviously you're familiar with the show "the walking dead," correct? i've seen it. i don't know how it relates to this, you have about a minute left. caller: i understand, it does relate to it. here is my question.

that liberals would tell us to be tolerant of dietary preferences if "walking dead" actually happened? let theave it there and public at large decide on that. couple hearings to tell you about. will appear before the education committee on the senate side to talk about budget and other related issues. you can see that on the web. it, go to c-span.org for that, if you want to watch it. talkan catch it tonight to about the 2019 budget at 9:00 tonight. on c-span 2, c-span.org rad app.esy of c-span steve mnuchin appearing at 10:00 the treasury s of budget for 2019 obviously. can see s where you that, also c-span.org, and the radio app. again, many things you can find out wh