mason university's and the urban institute's on challenges facing social security and medicare funding. be sure to watch c-span's "washington journal" live at 7:00 eastern thursday morning. join the discussion. sentative paular, republican of a, w serves the fourth district and is a member freedom caucus. guest: good morning. host: there is a debate going on thmiatio c giv characteri of theb guest: we are trying to come up with a solution that looks atria people wanted, they wanted border security and were promised border security. they want ave a nversation about illegal immigration, why is it taking so long for people , a borderto the country the fot, awell as interior

enforcement. that is what they want to see. we he seen a con regards to daca, but is not exactly what everybody else thinks it should be. ink most people want to be fa, but fair acr the board etti one grp over ano. sonk we e try to find we have great people.t debate. we have immigtion attorney that has been very forward with ideas,ha forward thiin and incorporates a lot of that thought process that maybe there is a way to mitigate this, not just on the daca recipients, but also other children who may be but also looking at some of the quotas afavisa lottery program, chain migration, we need changes. host: when it comes to the daca

recipients, what tld c debatecept,er about the threshold? guest: there is debate,ecatm myd some others, we do not want a special process just for those recipients. if we are going to look at children who may be victims, where we give them an opportunity to be part of the legal immigration process with valuation, i think then there is something there that people can buy into, saying we are not putting one group over another, victimizing one group over anothende enhancing legal immigratst: how do they sh mark meadows, how much is he willing to give in and does he share your views? guest: you know, none of us

have 100% same views, tha beaut oup tt we have that conversation. what is missing in congress is the debate. ng to those ideas.listen to you, taking and extrapolating it with my point of view and seeing if there is some way c up with a solution s go for both of us. it follows the pss of the law. that is the beauty of our group. mark hasked hard to try to get to a solution that gas some of the gs ve looked at the discharge peti, wl as harers in our gup, ani one of them, you know. soe s done a good job. host: our guest will be with us until 8:00 a.m. you can ask questions. republicans, 202-748-800 decr-8000.

independents, 202-748-8002. the discharge petition that you spoke about, explain that to our viewers, particularlybout publicigningff in gut: it is a means in which you carc floor without the consent ofdersp, or processo it is parked on the f happeng,his is dependent upon when it is available, it is brought to the floor into voted on. s case it is a queen of the hill aspect, where there will be a number of bills inside there,ikthe senate dh king of the hill, to see if they can get one with the most vos that can go away, if one of the pieces within the construction bill that is sitting on the floor is brought forward, the

one we are talking about is the good life bill. ifha up befo that time, the discharge petivoid, yon all over again, bt that is something that we have talked about. we he been pmice last year from a cr aspect that we would get a vote on the bil -- chain migration, border security, and we are looking at renewal for daca recipients. that is where the discharge petition is. host: what about carlos cabello who started the process, ng ihelo this way d republicans who signed it? deten immigration.ant to have a it is debatable. but do not think the discharge petition is the way to do that, jurisdictione c from current leadership and you o nancy pelosi for that day. that is not the way we ought to

be doing things. i agree with him the conversation needs to be had. but that is a problem with our leership, we need to go through the proper process, the good politics, that is key to everything. we have nopr here. we should have made leadership e say, listen, bring it through the committees, move it. trust the promises kept. if you are notping promises, there is no trust in congress with leadership. host: the fact we are at the state of a discharge pet is thaa failure of speaker ryan? guest: it is. i have been the one person who thinks that we are allowing an emulation of the feelings of the previouspeaker. the export, import was a discharge petition. you look at spke boehner, and now with speaker ryan, the process is wrong.

knohegood people, but leadership comes at a price. rulesve to follow the and you have to make sure that you are not usurping that procave get back to good process, because once we have it we will have good policy. and immigration is so important, this is the fabric of this country. we cannot do this behind closed doors, it has to be done publicly with the american public. piece by piece by piece, and explain it, allow them to chime in. host: our first call from ohio. gary, independente, y are with paul gosar of arizona. caller: how are you doing? guest: i cannot complain. caller: i am so glad. i have two questions i have trying -- have been trying to get asked and so far nobody has

the decency or character to answer them within a reasonable amount of time. illegals it cost for aliens to become a u.s. citizen, and what is the cost for legal immigration to the dollar figure? will you start taking care of american citizens? we have homeless people on the streets. we have people out of work. we are paying people not to work. and nobody has the guts to do it long, say you are for the but then you turn around and you are against the law. the cost for illegal immigration is over $100 billion in a yearly application, so legal immigration, i do not know how you define that because i think the rewards are over and

above. we are coming to tha aspect when you see that our job market, we have more jobs employed than two is -- who is employed. if we needed when million people to come in, i would rather go to legal immigration. in regards to the border wall, i have been one of those stalwart people who has brought new solutions to the table. for example, in mexico and arizona, we are low ground and when they get water we get flooded, so there is a perfect opportunity to share a border facility with a water infrastructure aspect, called lower santa cruz, where mexico would pay their fair share, 50%, and in the u.s. pay 5yo have something that both sides need and want. it takes care of waste that is coming into the u.s. because of poor septic systems.

there is an opportunity that we have put forward in regards to border facilities. you are right, our printable instructions are to take care of the citizens of this country, absolutely. th is where i stand. weand t be actimizgroup of heree that arellally over people who are try to get here legally. host: jim, go ahead. caller: thank you for taking my . i will start with, steve bannon on immigration, they open up to the illegals to call. i am a blue-collar guy. we should open up the line for these americans who have to compete against these people, the owners of cavities that are stressed because of people hiring illegal aliens. i haveedcrs the tr i am a veteran and my wife is a veteran. iorand i am in construction.

i compete against people from ethiopia. and central and south my job. so i am not -- i show up on job sites and nobody speaks english. and i canca with to get somethi. it is disheartening. i have a hard line on the immigration thing. daca, i do not care if it takes the 50 years, they do not get use will be in order. for what purpose does the gentleman fxas ek recognition? >> i send to the desk a privilege red port from the committee on rules for filing under the rule. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk willry report the title. the clerk: report to accompany house resolution 923, resolution providing for further consideration of the bill h.r. 5895. making appropriation for energy and water development and related agencies for the fiscal yearen