and today, we continue to bring you unfiltered coverage of congress, the white house, the supreme court, and public policy events in washington, d c and around -- washington, d.c. and around the country. c-span is brought to you by your cable or satellite provider. here are some of the live events we are covering friday on the c-span network. at 9:00 eastern on c-span, the housemates to debate opioid legislation -- house meets to debate opioid legislation. on c-span two, a house hearing on satellite technology with commerce secretary wilbur ross and the heads of nasa and u.s. strategic command. panel c-span3, a health looks at the horseracing industry and whether to require a universal anti-doping program for the horses. next, on washington journal, we will discuss immigration policy

with two members of congress. in about an hour, new jersey republican leonard lance. then, democrat peter welch of vermont. [video clip] jays are 193, the nays are 291. the bill is not passed. host: good morning, friday, june 22, the last day of this legislative weekend. it came to a head with this vote yesterday, when 41 republicans joined democrats to reject a conservative immigration bill. the week also started with the how the fbiort on handled the clinton email investigation. and the separation of migrant families at the border dominated the headlines throughout the week. the house yesterday also approved a farm bill by two votes and a slew of opioid abuse

legislation. want to know, what is your top story of the week? republicans, (202) 748-8001. democrats, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002. you can also go to twitter at facebook.com/cspan. let's run through the week. we will begin with the inspector general report, michael horwitz testifying before the senate judiciary committee. he was there for hours answering questions. on tuesday, he went to the house i and that -- house side and sat down before two committees. [video clip] >> there were fbi agents and attorneys who decided to out judge -- judge the outcome of the hillary clinton case before the investigation ended. let that sink in. they prejudged the outcome of the hillary clinton

investigation before the --estigators to investigation ended, and these exact same fbi investigators and attorneys free decided the outcome of the russia investigation before it even began. if an outcome of an investigation up before it ends determinedence of bias, for the life of me, i do not know what would be. that is textbook bias. it is quite literally the definition of bias. allowing something other than the facts to determine your decision. these agents were calling her president before she was even interviewed. host: just like the senate hearing on monday, house democrats, when they heard testimony from the inspector general, had a different take on his 500 page plus report. [video clip] >> there is not a scintilla of evidence that a witchhunt exists right now. in fact, if any individual

connected to the 2018 -- 2016 presidential campaign was victimized by prosecutorial misconduct, her name was hillary clinton. the report that you produced, 500 plus pages, makes clear that the former fbi director violated the department of justice protocol on multiple occasions. ost severely in july 2016, with a public examination of hillary clinton's conduct, recklessly calling it extremely careless, violating doj protocol, and in october of 2016, 11 days prior to the presidential campaign. what are you guys complaining about? you know what happened. james comey decided to play judge, jury, and executioner, and on october 28, he executed the hillary clinton campaign. host: if you missed the watchdog testimony, on monday and

tuesday, go to c-span.org. in while, on monday, the white house sent out kristen nelson to answer questions about its migrant family policy. the secretary repeated what the president had said -- congress needed to fix it. [video clip] >> i am going to continue to insist that this is something that congress can change. this is an the attorney general announced the zero tolerance policy. this never happened before the announcement. >> the obama administration, the bush administration all separated families. they absolutely did. their rate was less than ours, but they absolutely did do this. this is not new. they separated families. >> but kids from their parents at this rate is something new and specific to the administration was the attorney general announced the zero-tolerance policy.

wide didn't the president pick up the phone and change the policy? he says he hates it. >> i think he is trying to find a long-term fix. [inaudible] >> let's fix this tomorrow. pressure mounted from republicans, human rights groups, religious groups that the president change this himself. even the united nations human rights council criticized the administration's policy of separating migrant children from their families. that was on tuesday. on monday, excuse me. on tuesday, secretary of state mike pompeo and u.s. ambassador nikki haley said the u.s. would withdraw from the human rights council. [video clip] >> for too long, the human rights council has been a protector of human rights abuses cesspool of political bias. it is now clear that our call for reform was not heeded. human rights abusers continue to serve on and be elected to the

council. the world's most inhumane regimes continue to escape scrutiny. in the council continue to politicize and scapegoat countries with positive human rights records in an attempt to distract from those abusers in their ranks. therefore, as we said we would do a year ago if we did not see any progress, the united states is officially withdrawing from the u.n. human rights council. host: the u.k. prime minister theresa may on wednesday, also expressing her opinion on the migrant children policy. [video clip] childrenctures of being held in what appears to be cages are deeply disturbing. this is wrong, this is not something that we agree with, this is not the united kingdom's approach. indeed, [inaudible] andave a long and a special enduring relationship, a

long-standing relationship with the united states. i think there will be a range of issues about this government with president trump, a range of issues with our shared interest, and i think it is important that that when we see the president of the united states here in the united kingdom, we are able to have those discussions. it means when we disagree with what they are doing we say so. host: the president travels to the u.k. on july 12. on wednesday, he reversed course, signing an executive order, but still maintains that congress needed to fix the problem. [video clip] very will have strong, strong borders, but we will keep the families together. the familiese being separated. it is a problem that has gone on for many years, as you know, through many administrations. legislationng on that has been left out in the cold. people are dealing with it but we are dealing with it. host: yesterday, republicans

attempted to fix the policy of the southern border among other administration -- administration -- immigration proposals. goodlatte, author of the more conservative bill that ultimately failed yesterday, making the our demand on the floor for his colleagues to vote yes. [video clip] >> we are a nation of immigrants. there is not a person in this room who can go back a few generations or several generations and finds one who immigrated to the united states. the are also a nation of laws. the rule of law and following our legal immigration system is the foundation of our society. say that iten you is not good enough to do better for the daca recipients then barack obama did, where you get that idea from? when you say we are not a demers

-- generous country in regards to immigration and this is an anti-immigration bill when it sustained far more legal immigration than any other country on earth, they are completely wrong. at the same time that we do that and we promote that in this bill, good legal immigration policy and something fair for the daca recipients, we must also have secure borders in our country. and we must give any administration, not just this one, the tools it needs to close the loopholes, to secure the borders. the bill failed 193-2 hundred 41. 41 republicans joining democrats voting no. the is nancy pelosi, minority leader, before that vote, talking about why democrats will vote no. [video clip] >> this continues to be complicit in the president's atrocities. the anti-family bill, don't take it from me, but from the conference of catholic bishops,

they say these bills perpetuate child detention and undermine existing protections relating to such detentions. the gop should abandon these bills immediately and demand the president rescind his policies at the border, policies he created and he can fix. enough with the halfway measure yesterday. failed, soill yesterday, republicans went behind closed doors in the late .ay to regroup they were going to come back and vote on a more moderate compromise immigration bill that included a fix to the daca program as well as the theration of families on border, however, they did not come to a consensus. so that vote has been postponed until next week. we will spend this first hour of today's washington journal getting your thoughts on this legislation week and your top story. republicans, (202) 748-8001.

democrats, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002. democrat.rida, what was your favorite story through the week? caller: great intro segment, by the way. for me, i heard a news piece that i will paraphrase because the numbers are so staggering, basically that our runaway train national debt and deficit with these new tax cuts mostly for the wealthiest among us and the wealthiest in the corporations, that the runaway train of the debt and deficit has more than doubled from what it was, i recall, not too long ago, that the numbers were like every

year, it was about $250 billion a year and a deficit that every about $1y, it would be trillion. with these new tax cuts -- i thought by hiring a president who was a businessman that we were going to get to the bottom of all of this national debt and deficit, and i think instead it is a failed experiment with a failed president who is not paying attention. like ross perot used to say, he is sweeping us all under the rug and we are not addressing the problem. we should be attacking the debt and the deficit on every front and not by giving tax breaks to the rich and the wealthiest among us. ok, rob. republicans were touting the six-week anniversary this week of the tax reform. take a look at the u.s. debt clock. you can see the latest number there. one way to combat the size of government, the administration

is proposing consolidating some agencies. mick mulvaney, the president's guy, yesterday laid out his arguments in a cabinet meeting. we covered the cabinet meeting and you can hear what mick mulvaney had to say to the president and the other cabin members, but here is the headline in the wall street journal. trouble urges agency reorganization. at the planned center is a full merger of the education and labor departments into a new department of education in the workforce. a nod toward the ministries and goal of refocusing the education more jobo include training. this prompted rebukes from democrats and murmurs from republicans. david, in chicago. you are next. david? caller: yes, i am here.

i have my phone on mute in case i happen to talk. the top story for me was the immigration debate in those two bills, hr 4760 and hr 6136. 4760 supposedly was going to be the least worst of the two, if you are looking out for americans first. but what really bothered me goodlatte said on the floor yesterday, i saw it on c-span, he said oh, it is too bad that these ranchers and farmers have to play in our -- paying artificially inflated wage rate with the program. it tells you what their mentality is, these republicans. they want cheap labor and they do not want to pay real market i voted for him, it bothers me what president trump said in the cabinet meeting, which i saw. he said i want people to come in, they have to come in through

a merit system, but we have a lot of people coming in our country through the merit system so these companies are looking for people to make their company's work. mentioned thep real unemployment rate. the real unemployment rate [inaudible] idea to tie a good benefits to work unless you stop the almost 2 million foreign legal workers coming in every year into the country. this is depressing wages, displacing americans, and basically the whole supply chain of how we find jobs in the tech sector, supposedly the high skilled, well-paying jobs are not controlled by americans. they are controlled by one country that gets 75% of all the visas. that has to be addressed. if you want to reform tax, reform section 1706 that allowed all these middlemen and

intermediaries to get in between the actual tech worker, the knowledge worker, and these corporations that want the labor done but they do not want the responsibility of an employer-employee relationship. david, you might be interested to hear what we covered earlier on immigration visas. investor visas. basically, if someone is going to invest $1 million in someplace, a foreign investor, they would get the visa. as long as they are going to create jobs in the united states. you might be interested in that. go to c-span.org. let's go to bethany in maryland, republican. -- jeffrey in maryland, republican. go ahead with your comment, top story of the week. caller: my story of the week, i think president trump needs to do a better job on stopping

criticizing people for what is going on right now. he could do a better job, and he don't care about the democrats are the poor people because this tax plan is not helping people making $20,000, $30,000 a year. i get five dollars more in my tock, and i think he needs stop acting like a dictator and start acting like a president for all people. he keeps talking about his base. he is the president of the united states. he is not supposed to have a base. he is supposed to be for all americans, and i think he needs to start doing a better job, stop kissing prudence tale -- all the time, and if he wants to take $500 million for china and open of a business in china, talking about making america first? he is not making america first. and then in july, he was going to sit down with prudent, and they had a conversation. he needs to do a better job.

that is all i have to say. you have a good day. kevin in chicago, democrat. good morning. caller: good morning. yes, the top story this week, i do not care what other people's issues are. it is the refugee crisis. c-span, please, please do not allow cable media to frame the discussion. there is a distinction between illegal immigrants and refugees. asylum-seekers. there has always been. asylum-seekers are governed by a separate set of laws. we never had zero-tolerance on refugees and where not even in the top 10 countries that take refugees. please be aware of that. there is no other issue this independents,ans,

or democrats, moderates, liberals, or conservatives. only the way we treat our fellow human beings who are fleeing forecution and just looking adjudication. they are looking for asylum cases to be heard and adjudicated. they are turning themselves in. what the heck are we talking about and why is the president doing this to our country? on your point, here is a tweet from the united nations migration office. 40,944 migrants and refugees inived by sea to europe 2018. kevin, are you seeing this? caller: yes, and this is correct. i think it is so important that we put it in the proper context. we have to ignore knowledge the fact that we do not take the

most refugees. we did take refugees from cuba, only from cuba because they were solid republican votes, right? you are from cuba, you are white, you get excepted. accepted. anyone else? no. let's have an honest discussion. this has nothing to do with chain migration or building the wall, this is about asylum. who are we as a people? host: kevin, a democrat in chicago. robert, independent. caller: good morning. the top story of the week would is literallyyan undermining the republican party. what republican would vote for amnesty in an election year and expect to get reelected? that is why paul ryan has put this bill forward, so he can get the republican party out of the

majority in the house of representatives so donald trump will be impeached, and it is when he can run in 2020, which he will do anyway. and i do not know what school you attended, but the one i attended, the president of the united states does not make the law. the law we are talking about with these immigrants has been in place for 20 years, signed by bill clinton and enforced by george bush, barack obama, all this stuff has been going on, and now the media has sat back here and live to the american people and blamed this on president trump. he does not make the laws in this country. and another thing i find awful convenient, it is funny how all the democrats find more value in people, foreigners, illegals coming across this border illegally than the people in this country living in poverty. we have veterans on the streets living homeless. we have people living in their cars. we have homeless. why can we take those benefits

and help out our own people in these countries and the inner cities? but the democrats in the media find value in all of these illegal immigrants. you want to tell the truth? this is the about the electoral college. that is what this is about. they do not care about these people. they want these people in texas where they can take over the electoral college. why don't you tell them that, gretchen? host: this is a piece that you might be interested in, how trump's migrant policy separated children from their parents. after weeks of separating children and parents from the united date, president trump signed an executive order to cease to allow detaining families unless it is together in federal custody. indefinitely detain families together in federal custody. detainedthat were together under the obama administration before a cold -- court ruled that they cannot retain children. they were released to await a

court appearance. trump, the president's zero-tolerance policy, what happened then, after that was it lamented in may, the adults were detained and the children were shoulder.the trump's intention after this executive order being signed is that both adults and children will be detained together, however, this story in the new york times this morning, on the front page, for military bases -- four military bases prepared to hold 20,000 children. the u.s. is preparing the shelter as many as 20,000 theican migrant children as 20,000 beds at bases in texas and arkansas would house unaccompanied alien children. it is unclear whether the military housing would also house the parents of children and migrant families that have been detained.

after they illegally across the mexican border into the united states. the justice department filed an emergency briefing with the court thursday because under current law, you cannot detain children for more than 20 days. if they're going to be detained with their parents, they would need a judge to approve than 20g them in more days. there is confusion and more to come on this story. your top news story of the week is our conversation. paul in wisconsin, a democrat. caller: hi, i would have to say that what was on the back of elania'ss jacket -- malone jacket, where on the back of her jacket it says i really don't care, do you? host: why does that matter? caller: could you imagine if moshe l obama -- michelle obama

had that on the back of her coat? the arrogance of the trump family is unbelievable. and it spoke the truth. he does not care about these people. he does not care about anything but himself. host: the president followed up on that, saying he -- she was about talking about the media. melania has learned how to dishonest they are and she truly no longer cares. caller: that is just bs. trump with his fake news media trash. he wants state tv, like they have in russia. he is so anti-american it is not even funny. i can't believe people are supporting this guy. it is unbelievable. it really is. he wants.at he wants everyone to watch state tv, fox news. host: on this story, the new york times has a piece.

of the jacket statement fashion or politics? they go through the different theories that have been out there about why she were the jacket. was she sending a message to the media? was she talking about the migrant family policy? was she talking to her husband. mrs. trump also seems to be using her close of the private diary, yet one that peru's by millions who do not have the rest of the text. between intention and analysis, an enormous gulf can exist. as interesting as the idea might be, this time, it may have backfired. we will go to clayton, a republican. good morning to you. you are on the air. caller: yes, good morning, how are you doing? i'm calling in reference to the comments by the democrat who stated that they have a problem with the children being separated from parents?

it was thursday, when the president signed the order to keep the children together? all of a sudden, the democrats are starting to talk about how this is going to be so bad to keep the children all detained. that is just a colts ploy. they do not care about the children. all they want to do is for president trump to catch them and release them into a community. and another thing. the democrats will never tell you about the consequences of all the democrats. they don't tell you about the consequences of. they are destroying certain communities that we have. do you know we spend $135 billion a year on illegal immigrants? we need to start pointing out the consequences. you have illegal alien children in public schools who can't even speak the language.

you got to pay 10 times as much to teach these people. host: and coming up on the washington journal in our 8:00 hour, we will get two different from houses lawmakers, a democrat and a republican. we will talk to them about this immigration debate. allen in washington, republican. caller: hi. well, lots of things. first, when will they get their facts straight that every time you have a tax cut, the government makes more money. the revenues increase. just look at the one company that brought its money back. $28 billion had to be paid in taxes that would not have been paid without the tax cut. these guys, they make it all about every time, and they make more money. host: all right, alan.

as we said at the top, the week began with the inspector general michael correlates testifying first on the senate side on monday and then hours before two ,ommittees on the house side when he was before the senate judiciary committee, the chairman of that committee, chuck grassley, began the hearing by noting that he had wanted jim comey and loretta lynch, the former attorney general, to testify about this ig report. they declined. the judiciary chairman sat down with us for a newsmakers program, and this is what he had to say about mr. comey and loretta lynch. [video clip] at the inspector general report before your committee. he expressed some displeasure that james comey did not show up and that he had time for media appearances but not congress. are you going to ask him or perhaps subpoena him to come back to the midi -- committee to

respond to these findings from the inspector general? i will want to subpoena him, but in that senate rules of our committee, both senate fight -- both senator feinstein and i , and i doree to it not know she would agree to it. if she does, we will subpoena. >> loretta lynch as well? >> yes. >> when do you think the decision will be made on that? [inaudible] >> does that also go for a compulsory process for andrew mccabe? >> no, no. that involves a few steps. first of all, feinstein and my agreeing to it, and i want to do that, and we are in some negotiations with her on that point. but then it goes to the justice department to see that it does not interfere with any of their potential prosecution. and then getting before us. i think another step that is not

so regular is i think we need to -- and we are working through his lawyers on this -- to have a conversation of what he can ,ontribute to our oversight because if you cannot contribute anything substantial there is no point in going through it. but provided that conversation results in a positive outcome, you would be recommending [inaudible] >> yes. you can see our entire interview friday night at 10 of clock p.m., this evening, and sunday at 10:00 a.m. and at 6:00 p.m. on c-span. you can also hear it on c-span radio or watch it online at c-span.org. your topalso be one of stories this week as we continue our conversation with all of you about this legislative week. the house is in session today. they are finishing up some business of the week. they passed a. ad ofgislation -- a myri

legislation to combat opioid abuse. and also yesterday, by just two votes, a multi-your farm bill that also includes worker requirements for welfare. that is all on the table this morning. let's go to drew in scottsdale, arizona, a republican. caller: hi, how are you doing? i wanted to call this morning. i'm on a border state in arizona and i keep hearing things that a lot of times are not true. living on a border state, i see that. one of the article they showed -- you show that said in 2014, of the obama administration was having peaceful together. he was housing people apart and he gave them a promise to appear after 20 days. those people showed up. in arizona, the main problems we have had have been jobs, the opioid crisis, and those two thing could be greatly solved,

because there is a lot of heroin coming up in arizona through mexico, and it gets in a lot of times, unfortunately, from people who are forced to bring it. host: two stories to share with you on that. first, usa today's front page. tolerance is zero, administration fee is $10. this crackdown is built on a mountain of smalltime criminal prosecutions that typically end with people sentenced to spend no additional time in jail and pay a $10 fee. this is according to a usa today analysis of thousands of cases. and the washington post editorial this morning, the crisis continues. a partial answer to most of these problems is backing off of the separation policy. not every illegal border crossing must be held in custody printing -- pending prosecution. it would cost less and void and of a girl -- less and avoid

humanitarian problems of people were released and fitted with ankle bracelets are subjected to other types of monitoring. according to npr, immigration reportsoms enforcement that 99.8% of undocumented immigrants released with this method show up for their court date. crystal, good morning. caller: good morning. i have two topics for story of the week. the first is the immigration process. one thing i have actually learned in the 27 years of my life is that humans have lost their humanity. for some reason, we can't get it right. but the solution to all of our problems is love. love is actually the key. what if we opened our minds and our hearts and actually tried to make mexico part of america? is america going to go to iraq to try to create readmore unity or whatever they are doing over

there, we should be able to do the same thing over there. we need to be more creative and create more jobs. stop letting machines do the process for us when you have people over there who are trying, really trying to seek refuge, and we can create that process and show them that we are not the same, we are not those kind of people that everyone is portraying us to be, because one thing is is that the native americans actually did that to us, and it would be kind of a disgrace. we would not even be here if the native americans did not have love in their heart to say hey, let's share this land. , i would second topic love to see judicial reform. i have witnessed where the government, people who are working in sectors of the government are not being held liable for their personal actions. you know, for example, if i was to become a clerk of the court

and i was to go in there and alter someone's record, i would not be in trouble. i would get away of it -- with it and have no accountability. and i have seen the judicial system just have no kind of rehabilitation or humanity about because i personally was told by a state attorney investigator that record altering happens all the time, and it should not, especially when it happens multiple times in the same court. i think america needs to get their stuff together and stop basing everything on your opinion and see the bigger picture. this earth is not ours. will leave it i there. mike in ohio, independent. day, greta. my top story was on the christian channel, wh tv, true news with mark wiles. host: yes, we are listening. what is it? caller: well, he explained how the zionist christians believe

that israel should take over the middle east, including syria, iran, iraq, and the whole middle east. every time we have a new president, there is an agreement that we cannot speak about their any of thoseal or shenanigans that we are not supposed to hear about. know, it is unbelievable, and talking about when they blew up the uss liberty and we had 17 ?oldiers killed in that that was kind of a set up. jacket,th milani is that points to the fact that we have a disney production wrapped around a fascist in the twilight zone. you have a good day. host: two stories on the middle east. this from the washington post. coming soon, president trump's proposal for middle east peace.

it might be rejected out of hand, but jared kushner, the president son-in-law and advisor, is set to unveil this middle east peace proposal soon. and then there is a post about prime minister netanyahu's wife is charged in a case. she was charged with ordering meals to the residence worth a total of 99,000 between -- $99,000 between 2010 and 2013. john, arlington, virginia, republican. i am a little upset on the immigration business. a couple things. your article touched on it in the post, but there is almost no media coverage of the fact that a lot of people who are let go do not g show up for a second court visit. do that,re going to take these measures. make the ankle bracelet and make it a criminal offense to alter

the measures they used to track them. secondly, you have the daca business. you have these kids in the country and they do not know another country. once use all that, it is how about a free send the parents back to the country? no, you can't do that, so instead of eight hundred thousand, we are talking in the millions of people involved in this ring. situationou have the where you have the temporary status given to people who were in bad situations from hurricanes and stuff like that, ok then they want to say this find to get back home, but you can't do that because they have been here for a while. all of these policies undercut the law and undercut real emergency situations where refugees would be welcome, and they don't do any good. i think they have to be changed and a solid policy has to be there. in that debate over what

to do with the so-called dreamers and the daca program is being delayed until next week because republicans, after meeting behind closed doors, could not come to a consensus, i.e. get enough votes, to pass it. another headline from the a champion oft, neoconservatism cut a single or profile, dying yesterday at the age of 68. the cause was cancer of the small intestine. here is a quote from a note that he wrote on june 8. i believe that the pursuit of truth and right ideas through honest debate and rigorous argument is a noble undertaking. fromis a farewell note june 8. i am grateful to have played a small role in the conversation that has helped guide this extraordinary nation. i leave this life with no regrets. wrote, af you know, he

prolific writer for the new republic, weekly standard, the national interest, and also near ubiquitous, as the washington says, on cable news, particularly fox. allendale, pat in south carolina, a democrat. good morning. good morning. my topic is i cannot understand why the white people consider this their country. it was here when they came over here. they came over here for , and they lie,ns steal, manipulated, and killed. i would like to say this. you without sin, cast the first stone. thank you. in case you missed this moment on the house floor floor, a, on the house

lawmaker's personal story of migrating to this family -- country as a child. [video clip] in 1970, a guatemalan couple decided to send their daughter to the u.s.. that young girl was me. i was welcomed here. in a loving home. i was not put in a freezing cell my parents felt they had no choice. died a couple of years later.

these parents are making a choice that, frankly, i could not make today for my children. ago, i was away from home for so long, for weeks, that my grandson, a felt he had to reintroduce himself to me. because he had not seen me for four weeks. he didn't think that i would remember him. infant.an when that infant is returned to their parents, they will be introduced to a total stranger. tauris onresswoman the floor, a democrat from california yesterday ahead of the conservative bill, failing

193-231. 400 republicans -- 40 republicans voted no on that. the headline in the washington times, republicans dealt setback two immigration bills. the president tweeting this morning that republicans should stop wasting their time on immigration until we elect more senators and congressmen and women in november. dems are just playing games, have no intention of doing anything to solve this decades-old problem. we can pass great legislation after the red wave, he says. the back story on how this all went down yesterday, that vote failed early in the afternoon. republicans decide to vote behind closed doors. the washington times report republican leaders thought they had an agreement between conservatives and moderates, but the conservator is -- conservatives fault, saying the bill had too many mistakes and did not do enough to pressure businesses against hiring illegal immigrants.

the conservatives once a bill that require the use of e-verify, the governments currently voluntary system for checking a new hires work eligibility, but if e-verify is added, farm region lawmakers said they have to see a guest worker program for agriculture, which is unauthorized. called into the meeting yesterday afternoon, looking to urge the bill along. conservatives right that they felt abandoned by their leaders. they pointed to the more conservative bill that failed thursday and said mr. trump, the administration, and mr. wright have put more effort behind this , they may have been able to pass it. republican leaders planned votes onto bills, both of them sponsored by representative bob goodlatte of virginia. one bill, written months ago, would have codified the obama administrations daca program

into law, kurt tales family migration, and at the diversity lottery, authorized the wall, surged more resources to border enforcement and punish sanctuary city. -- sanctuary cities. but this was too little for some moderates. 41 republicans joined 190 democrats in opposition. the washington post says on this boat failing yesterday, the irritation started coming to a head on tuesday, when trump is it house republicans on capitol hill. this was to urge them to vote for immigration legislation, but trump fails to send a strong message that he wanted a particular bill passed. apparently he spent much of his topics andg on other delivering pointed dates at mark sanford, if trump who lost his

week.y election last i think the president needs to understand that he might have actually lost in boats in that meeting. the reason he was there was to emphasize that he had our backs, and i think a different message was sent. then in the thursday morning tweet, trump said what is the purpose of the house doing good immigration bills when you have nine votes by democrats in the senate, and of the dems are only looking to obstruct? that deflated the effort to build support for the bills because it signaled to wavering lawmakers that there is little reason to risk a conservative bill. let's go to sheila, republican. hi, i wanted to make a few points, so please bear with me. for me, the story this week is the untold story. this whole thing with the refugee crisis or immigration crisis at the border started with photos from the obama

administration, photos of illegal immigrant children in cages. the democrats knew what they were doing. they posted photo from -- photos from the obama administration. also through the obama administration, many of these children were kept for over four months in cages. children,trafficked immigrant children up to the egg farms, and it is a known fact members, atang least 20 of them came into the united states through obama's program. host: sheila, where did you read or hear all of this? caller: there are plenty of stories on fox. there are stories all over the internet. there are photos all over the internet. so it started with a lie. the second thing is the untold

story. i am an american citizen. i have a lot of compassion for these young children. however, there have been thousands. and they had a border patrol agent on cnn this past week that talked to one of the journalists there and he explained to her that they have stopped several parents that have known at the borderape coming in illegally, not through the port of entry, but coming in through the legal way -- the children.y with their he was one of the head guys, one of the head border patrol agent's in texas. don't member the female journalist on cnn, but i am sure if you go back, you can see. it is on youtube and everything. you have to look at the facts. the third thing is the untold story from me as an american citizen.

thousands and thousands of american children have been raped and killed and had their by -- and i'm not saying everybody is bad but many who haveriminals crossed our borders, like the known rapists that the border patrol agents stopped coming in illegally, the children have lost their lives forever. host: sheila, i will leave it there. we want to get some other voices in. eugene in massachusetts, democrat. caller: thank you for taking my call. again, this is why, we cannot partisanhings with glasses. we have to take the partisan glasses off. you cannot put kids in the ice box. when we see kids -- people talk about the kids bringing this, you are talking and thinking it

is that people. but you cannot throw the humanitarian concern out the window. zero tolerance does not mean zero compassion. and what is going on with our country right now is the fact that people do not understand acting ond trump is [inaudible] thise lady said earlier, earth is not ours. there are other things you can do, but this is not a solution, putting kids in the ice box. and it is appalling to me to see that people think bush this, obama this -- we are not trying to compare. do better. there is something wrong. let's do better. do not throw your humanitarian concern out the window. an inherent

behavior of trying to make this country like russia is or another country is. if they love why these countries are, why don't they move their? will leave it there. the supreme court is coming to the end of this term, and they have been issuing decisions on oral arguments they have heard throughout this past year. one big one yesterday was the court ruling that states can't tax online retail sales. the court closed a loophole that helped fuel the early growth of internet sales, overruling a half-century of its own president that permits states from requiring merchants to collect sales tax unless those merchants maintain a physical presence within the state's borders. this ruling will likely spell the end of an era in which consumers purchased goods online and avoided taxes instead of

from local merchants. chief justice john roberts dissented, saying there is no crisis that now compels the xp and a long-ago mistake that congress has the power to fix. between 87% and 96% of sales of the top 100 internet retailers are taxed. the main exceptions are small businesses that would struggle to comply with the sales tax regimes of 10,000 or so jurisdictions. he said congress now needs to act to prevent this considerable damage, but in the meantime, there will be plenty of casualties. the wall street journal also notes that the cost of not being able to tax retailers that do not have a physical presence in states this was costing $33.9 billion annually in uncollected sales tax. let's go to liza in daytona beach, democrat. caller: hi, give me about as to understand this

immigration problem. you cannot blame the people coming over. back to thego george w. bush administration when the borders were wide open, even after 9/11. they were not secured. by 2004, some people estimated there were 30 million illegals coming into this country already. it is not their fault, but what i am explaining is they wanted the jobs, we did not have jobs. they took most of the low-paying jobs. so you had illegals coming in, taking the jobs with the complicity of the corporations that were getting cheap labor, then you had jobs outsourcing under george w. bush. upsurge inu had an these gangs, these ms 13, these drug cartels, there were heads being chopped off and left in the arizona desert. i remember on the larry king the mexicanalmos,

actor, said most of the people coming here are getting away from the violence. mexico, the government of mexico did nothing. bbc, that is not fake news, two said thousands of people were still being killed in mexico by the drug cartels. the police are complicit, the military is complicit, let's was also at mexico and what allowed to happen. and as far as obama, he deported close to one million. he got blamed for that, he was heartless. he was trying to turn around what the bush administration did. host: ok, i will share some numbers with our folks inside the wall street journal. arrests along the mexico border are currently at lowe's last seen in the early 1970's, but since october 1, crossings have increased 17% compared with this time last year, to about 279,000

people -- this is according to u.s. government data obtained by the wall street journal. where are they coming from? immigrants arrested at the mexico border are mostly coming from central america. how old are the children? yearding to the fiscal 2017, here is the breakdown of the unaccompanied children by age range. 17% are 0-12 years old. 13 to 14 years old is 13%, and older, 37%. 17 years old, 32 percent. isabel in maryland, good morning. caller: good morning, can you hear me? host: yes i can. have two comments. i watched the debate before regarding the immigration bills, and all i heard was blamemong ering. i did not hear any debate.

it is one side attacking the other, calling names. solved is going to get unless the issues are actually talked about and talked about in detail. my other comment is that i don't andrstand how we can stand pretend to show compassion for children when in the country, thousands are being ripped apart, literally, limb from limb in the abortion process. host: isabel's thoughts. laurel in washington, hello. caller: hello. hi, the immigration thing is a real tragedy, and i think it is kind of distracting people from other important news items. i have been watching the budget hearings for the proposed budget for 2019. what a lot of people don't know forrump wants some money

the military, the wall, space whatever. and the way he is planning on doing this, the budget he has put forth is they are going to take away several trillion dollars from medicaid. cut the going to benefits from a lot of things. that includes social security and medicare. by doing that, they are going to raise the age limit to 67 for next year to qualify for medicare and social security, id raise it again in 2022, think they said. this is the proposal. for medicare, they would be raising the deductible, they would be taking away any prescription coverage, they would also be taking away a lot of the things that are now

covered. that way, they would not be paying as much for the medicare program. it will receiving medicare -- the people receiving medicare, all the prescriptions they have to pay for themselves. they will have to pay for a higher deductible, they will have to purchase a better insurance totter cover the things that medicare will longer cover. host: laurel in washington, a democrat. a couple of things to share with you. elizabeth landers tweeting out that republican senators kennedy and shelby tell the networks they are traveling to russia next week as part of a congressional delegation. shelby says there will be high-level meetings. the wall street journal reports that the presidents national security adviser john bolton tonced -- plans to travel london and rome, then to moscow

to discuss a potential summit between vladimir putin and president trump. mr. bolton will be one of the highest-ranking trump administration officials to visit moscow after then secretary of state rex we will continue with our conversation about order security reform with two members of congress. leonard lance of new jersey, and peter welch of vermont. we'll be right back. ♪ >> the c-span buses traveling on -- tour.pitals to her of a are in the middle bunch of crises. we are used to having a lot of oil money come in.

as result we are not getting that revenue we are used to. there are other revenue streams that need to happen but it is not happening very fast. i think there are political reasons. people worry about implementing taxes. without additional revenue alaskans are facing a lot of crises in a lot of areas. one is the opioid and substance abuse crises -- crisis. the more people who are not living their lives in a way they are happy with, they are turning to self-medicating. most important issue is child hunger. it is all linked to poverty. hunger have 40% of child in the state a few years ago. it went down. we are going back up. we have to stop giving all our

money to oil companies and spend on children for the future. >> one of our big issues in the state is terrorism. it did -- tourism. we are very concerned about the the state atomote a nationwide level, since tourism is such a bright spot in our economy. see, one as what i can of the big social service issues i have seen is homelessness. trying to combat it seems to be an issue with the city since a are not actively seeking help with the ones that are seem to be moving from place to place looking for different aid they can get. one of the big issues is homelessness, and how we fight it in the state.

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>> washington journal continues. table,ack at our congressman leonard lance who represents the seventh district. you voted no against what has been called the goodlatte maccoll bill put on the floor yesterday. you joined 40 other republicans and all the democrats to vote no. why? aest: it does not contain path to citizenship for the dreamers and i think there should be such a path. i have worked hard on that issue with colleagues. i think without having signatories on that we would not be discussing this issue as we are at the moment. host: more conservative members say they disagreed with a pathway to citizenship. what they believe it is amnesty.

>> i do not believe it is amnesty. these are residents who came .ere as infants or toddlers beenieve they have americans over the course of their lives. this would be a path that would not be automatic. there would be challenges but i do favor that. host: the president tweeted republicans should stop wasting time on immigration until after we elect more senators in november. democrats are playing games and have no intention of doing anything to solve this problem. we can pass great legislation after the red wave? do you agree they should not vote next week? guest: i disagree. i want to continue with the process. i hope we are able to vote next

.eek on the compromise bill it is important for congress. guest: what were you told by republican leaders about what they plan to do to get enough for somens to vote yes piece of immigration legislation? is e-verify.sue there is the challenge which -- with agricultural these is. that is being discussed. i don't represent a largely agricultural district but i recognize the concerns of colleagues regarding the agricultural community. we need men and women regarding agriculture. that is a legitimate issue. where are you on this moderate compromise proposal?

would you agreed to supporting it if language is changed included to have the e-verify and agricultural guestworkers? guest: i am leaning to voted for it. i circui want to see language as it would relates to these issues that were discussed yesterday. guest: what happens -- host: what happens next on the house floor am a what happens over the weekend before you debate again? guest: undoubtedly the whip team is counting votes as to whether there is a majority. i would encourage to my credit colleagues to work with us. reached outhave not a hand to them. i want to reach out to them. i point out in the senate, on the issue of children being separated from their parents, i oppose that, senator feinstein

and senator cruz are working together. i think that is a helpful sign. larger issue but that is important as well. host: would you agree to passing something narrow dealing with the separation of children? guest: absolutely. host: what grade would you give speaker ryan on how he handled this immigration debate so far? think we are in an area of not being complete. i think we should continue. i disagree with the president who tweeted this morning he untilto place this aside after the election. speaker ryan indicated he would bring legislation to the floor by the deadline in march that did not occur. there were several reasons. intervened and congress may work best when we are on a deadline.

i am not suggesting that is the way we should work but that is the way we do work. signed the discharge petition were responsible for the fact we are not discussing this on the floor of the house. host: what is the discharge petition? for those not aware of parliamentary means. where does that stand? could that still be a play that moderate republicans make? isst: on the definition, it a suggestion that a bill come to the floor that has not gone through the committee process. it requires a majority of the .ouse to get that to the floor it is extremely rare it actually happens. usually when you are in the majority you do not sign a discharge petition. you sign it when you are in a minority. 23 republicans to

have signed a discharge petition to get the ball rolling on the immigration issue. because we voted yesterday on the more conservative till we would have to start again in the discharge petition process. certainly that is in our back pocket. host: when or why would you bring it up? guest: because i want to see progress and would want to see a more moderate bill reach the floor of the house. herdlso a cosponsor of the aguilar bill. they have a bill with a path to citizenship for dreamers. it contains border security funding. it is bipartisan in nature. of the bills and discussion over the last month i think that is the bill that is most likely to have support of republicans and democrats.

host: let's hear what our viewers have to say. bedford, virginia. you were up first. caller: i agree with the zero-tolerance policy. too many countries have treated our borders as a joke for far too long. that is why our war on drugs and so on, they have girls they forced into prostitution, the only country in the world, we cannot take on every other person. the democrats should wake up and belize they are supposed to working for america's people in america's problems. the illegals are not the ones paying them. american taxpayer areas. i agree with her zero-tolerance policy. it is long overdue. thank you for the question. i certainly believe we should secure our southern border. there was immigration reform a

generation ago with the promise to secure our southern border and that did not occur. it was signed by president reagan. the second half of that which was to occur at the same time did not occur. i favor securing our southern border. i favor putting more funds into that. fencing, drones, greater personnel. on what ised happening with the recent situation regarding children, we need more immigration judges. we have 350 or so in this country. i would double that. come to ourose who country, however based upon horrible conditions in their own countries. we have to examine those situations, each at a time. need to do at we better job securing our border,

and i hope we can pass legislation in that regard. host: cindy, republican. caller: hi. i believe that there is a question here, we all need to think about this. do we not believe that we make waste? there are so many different being, more every moment paddled onto the immigration bills. and then they will want to have other amendments added. i believe this is being thrown ,ut there to fix a band-aid which opportunists are going to take advantage of. , we haver thing here this concern for humanity. but there is a deeper humanity that god has ejected onto the souls. to have true love for god's laws

. our founding fathers knew this. late 1700s,of the didy 1800s, it was did say you one of our founding fathers wrote to the king of england stopped sending slave ships to america. to includey voted african immigrants but by 1876 they restarted to restrict them. , inof the things i found 1875 a series of restrictions were enacted bending criminals, people with disease, polygamists, anarchists, people who don't believe in god. beggars. importers of prostitution. these are things to opposed to god's laws for humanity. as time goes by people become lacks in these laws which dictate our true moral

character. host: i'm going to leave it there. any thoughts? guest: i think we should have an immigration system that .ncourages legal immigration i think it is the lifeblood of this country. i certainly agree that criminal should not be permitted to come into this country. we have to be careful in this regard and we have to secure our southern border. most of us are the descendents of immigrants. most of our ancestors came here voluntarily. i add is quickly as i can that many african-americans in this country had ancestors who came here in chains and we should recognize that horrible portion of our history. i want an immigration system based on legality. i think we can accomplish that.

recognizing criminals and others in that category should not be permitted into this country. host: tony. caller: good morning. saying like to start out in latin there is a phrase that says a man so good he is good for nothing. my family came here in the 1700s from ireland. we were useless. free slaves. the blacks, you had to buy them. we would die in the fields. medicare and medicaid are you going to pay for that when coming in with disease? you want to expand medicaid but you want to bring so many people in that have not paid into it at all. host: let's talk about the cost.

prosecuting the whole process. this headline, contracts to care for migrants on the rise. a texas nonprofit awarded hundreds of millions of dollars in grants to house migrant children and operates a facility and a former walmart. in florida comprehensive health services, 22 million to help operate a 500 bed shelter. in may extended the contract to make it 1000 bed shelter. we have to recognize the cost associated with illegal immigration. that is why i certainly am conscious of the fact we have to be fiscally responsible regarding the issue of medicare and medicaid. these are challenges facing the congress. i tried to be fiscally responsible in that regard.

this is a problem that has been on our agenda in washington this year but it should have been on our agenda before that. secretary johnson of the obama administration stated yesterday he recognized the obama administration was unable to deal with this situation completely successfully, certainly i think it is the responsibility of those holding office now and the executive branch and the legislative branch to address this. host: "the wall street journal notes the federal government has a total of 100 shelters in 17 states. 11,700 children are living in the shelters. john in miami. caller: can you hear me ok?

i have so many questions. i don't know where to start. they are pouring in through the southern border. yet they are worried about these children. they are being used as pawns. the reality is we have 10 million children in the united states starving to death and we are worried about people coming across the border. do somethingexico about it? , whatdid that to mexico they do to us? host: let's talk about mexico and their responsibility here. that is a point the president it has made as well. guest: mexico does have a responsibility. many who come here illegally crossing our southern border are from central american countries. they travel through mexico to get here. , unaccompanied children is a significant

portion of this. hillary clinton and her campaign recognized this. we have to get control over our southern border. americansking sure are protected and that we have an obligation to the american citizenry. i think the compromise bill we are discussing in the house of representatives is a path forward at least in part and then we have to address larger immigration issues as well. i want to continue to work on this issue, including a compromise bill under negotiation at the moment. host: here is the story in politico. how mexico could force america's hand. they are trying a humanitarian it angle. along with the counterparts from colombia, ecuador, guatemala,

launched a former complaint. guest: i don't know the particulars of that situation. i would say it is responsibility of the mexican government as immigrants come north into toico from central america try to stop that migration at their southern border and i simply think they have a responsibility greater than merely be the conduit from central america to the southern united states. host: we will hear from barbara. caller: >> the trip administration intentionally disappeared babies and toddlers. even the nazis kept detailed records of who they killed, and to which prison camps the victims were taken to be tortured. rescindedtrump

representation for the children prior to enactment of this new policy. please, ask your colleagues to get the resources to help bring back the children. thank you. guest: thank you for your question. should bechildren reunited with their parents as quickly as possible. that was the intent of the executive order the president signed earlier. i do not think there should be a policy separating children from their parents. i hope that congress make sure that we follow through so that children are reunited. hello? for taking my call. i have a couple of quick questions. do any of the bills being considered have anything in them

that parents who brought these children in through no fault of their own, will the parents face any prosecution or justice for the american taxpayers? we know the agreement about these children is that they are from mexico. they will be turned back. i believe that is why the central americans are coming up. they know they will not be immediately turned back like mexicans well. the third thing is, specific invasion into our country. if we look at where the drugs are coming, human trafficking, can't the president issue, view this as a threat to national security? could the president declared the order a demilitarized sown and we would have to view this as an

act of war? i would be interested in what your guest has to say. i want to increased romantically the number of immigration judges so these cases can be decided as quickly as possible. where those have come into this country illegally, sometimes with their children, those cases can be resolved asap. there is a humanitarian reason if they are not under torture from their own countries. then they have entered this country illegally and should be returned to their home countries. i agree with the caller that this is a problem regarding central america and mexico has a greater responsibility. i do not favor a demilitarized zone. i want there to be a southern border that is safe and secure.

i want a process of legal immigration. i think the two goals are not mutually exclusive and we can work together to achieve those. raymond is a democrat. you are on the air. caller: you look like a fair man. i hope you can give me a fair response. i'm not quite a talk about the tax bill that passed. republicans like the tax bill. several months ago, you passed a $1.3 trillion budget that had everything in their republicans wanted and everything in their democrats wanted. full funding for planned parenthood. billion for the military. everybody got everything they wanted.

all president trump had to do i want that budget to go for the wall. all he had to do was threatened a veto. even if you could get the extra 20 billion, you could have taken 20 billion out of the defense budget and use it for defense on the ball -- on the wall. all he had to do was threatened a veto. why wasn't that 20 billion put into that budget for that wall? obviously he just wants the issue. guest: thank you. i think you raise a great issue. i didn't vote for the tax bill. i didn't vote for the tax bill because i think it exacerbates our long-term national debt. over the course of the next decade it might increase the debt by $2 trillion or so. i'm a social moderate but i

believe i'm a fiscal conservative. i was one of the republicans. there were not many. who did not vote for the tax bill. regarding the funding of the government, this was passed in march. to fund the government for the rest of the year. the fiscal year in washington in september 30. that was a bipartisan compromise. the moderate bill under discussion in the house now and this weekend into next week does contain funding for border security. it is a significant amount of , $5y over a five-year time billion a year. something like that. that is a component of the bill we are discussing, the compromise bill. i favor funding for border security and greater fiscal responsibility. that was one of two reasons the

other thing that we should have the ability to deduct state and local taxes as to why i didn't vote for the tax bill. host: mariam in florida. a beautiful day in florida. i'm really thrilled that you put me on your program. i will soon be 91 years old. inannot find the logic people's thinking. the mistake was made by some adult, parent, guardian who decided they were going to send children appear. then they just put them on our doorstep for us to do something with the problem. the problem started when the adults, wherever they were, decided to send their children. host: have you spoken with authorities?

why they would make that trick from central america for mexico to the u.s. border knowing they could be apprehended, paying thousands of dollars to a coyote ? guest: it is not the best public policy for adults to send their children north. many of those now in centers are unaccompanied children. have a responsibility to adjudicate those situations as quickly as possible. caller isent of the that parents should not have sent their children north unaccompanied. i agree with that. if you are about to be 91, i calculate you may have been born in 1927. happy birthday is you approach your 91st birthday.

i hope that i have the same type of genes that you have. i commend you for your wonderful life. host: bob in tyler. good morning. i have two quick questions. defendtake an oath to the constitution every two years? guest: yes, sir. caller: what is your interpretation of article four, section four regarding our border? we have ahink responsibility to make sure our border is secure. i try to defend all aspects of the american constitution. americanhe constitution is the greatest governing document that has been produced over the history of mankind. our rights come from the hand of god, not from the hand of man. district in new jersey. new jersey was the first state

to ratify the bill of rights in 1791. i try to take seriously the constitutional oath i take every two years. host: thank you for your time. guest: thank you. host: we will take a short break. when come back, peter welch joins us. we will talk about how democrats plan to vote on this compromise bill. and the debate this week on immigration. ♪ >> this weekend, john delaney, the first accredited to clear a run for the presidency offers his vision for america in his book the right answer.

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cable or satellite provider. washington journal continues. host: back at our table, congressman peter welch, chief deputy whip. separationabout this policy separating families at the border. we have heard from our callers. some have argued this started with the obama administration. guest: it did not. two things here. when kids and families have come in the past and the bush administration and the obama administration those families were kept together. a day for be given their asylum hearing. that process would proceed. the zero-tolerance policy was the one that was initiated by president trump and it was intended to separate kids from their families, to send a

deterrent message as he saw it to other asylum-seekers, and to put pressure on congress in negotiations for him to get his wall and border security. this is a trump administration policy that thankfully he has reversed. host: the republican speaker of the house has referred to court rulings where during the obama administration they were detaining parents and children together. the court said you cannot detain children. the obama administration decided to release the parents and the child with an ankle bracelet. you have to come back and reappear in court. with the trump administration you can't detain children. what are you to do when you want to send a deterrent message? guest: a couple of things. kids in cages. it is not something we can do.

when i was in brownsville we went to a facility. you walk in. it is a warehouse. no windows. inside there are chain-link fences set up. kids are separated by age and gender. adult men and women are in separate places. a lot of these were kids with been taken from their parents or kids have come here alone. one thing i saw were three boys. i assume they are brothers. they were on these thin mattresses. they were snuggling, holding onto each other for dear life. theyver our problems are, do have serious problems, we cages.ut kids in it has not been done before. we have to in that and figure out how to address the asylum question and the border security question. it can't include a policy where

kids are terrified and they don't know where they are going to go. that has to be off the table. host: what is this detention facility? what did you learn? guest: this is another criticism i was making of the truck policy. it was implemented very quickly and impulsively like a lot of the other policies that come out of the trump administration. , thee middle of april zero-tolerance policy included taking kids away from their parents. parents who go through the criminal justice system, kids to go through a different process. there was no coordination before the implementation of that policy between the agencies that would be dealing with the adults, and the agencies dealing with the children. that is a tough challenge. bottom line, you have to be keeping track of where the

parent is and where the parent's child are. i had none of that. the implement of the policy. now there are kids that we don't know where their parents are. in some cases parents were deported very quickly. they are back in guatemala. they are down there with no resources and no idea who to call or how to get help to find their child? we have problems on the border and we would ideally be trying to work them. the idea that this is what did crime tot would be a knock on our door and say can you help me? we may not be able to help everybody. but we can't criminalize the request by a person flaying gains, not part of gangs saying can you help? host: for you able to talk to the children? guest: they did not lead us. we said hello.

what was depressing to me, you see kids around and normally they are rambunctious, playing with each other. these kids were just lying down staring straight ahead in their own thoughts, lonely. we could not talk to them. we were able to talk to mothers held in an ice the tengion facility. there was a group of mothers who led our group. we were able to talk to them and ask their stories. they came in. they are stoic and determined, just enduring. when we were allowed to ask a woman to tell her story, flaying up here with her 13-year-old daughter because theydaughter be targeted for killing because she had borrowed money and was not able to pay it back, this mother had the daughter -- the mother got scared and the daughter said we can't go back.

we have to get free. the mother persevered. they get separated. she is crying. the other women, it unleashed that emotion that a mother has. that is what is so parra full about this. whatever your position is on the doesn'tat mom or dad take it as the most existentially urgent thing for them to know the well-being of their child? that cats across and it is why the idea that we have a policy where we were going to take that child away from their parent and inflict that uncertainty on an innocent person -- a lot of the colors point out we have a tough problem. you are right. we do. solutionn't have as a kids in cages. we can't have a solution the infliction of real harm on these young children. host: let's hear from our callers. joe is in baltimore.

what brings to mind, when first we practice to deceive. now isle mess going on an exercise in deception. there is no interest in the protection of the children. think about this. children, is there any knowledge about what the adults of who is a predator and who is not? who has mental problems? the children would be exposed to adults that would be uncontrolled. i am not quite sure i fully understand the question. when somebody asks for asylum, don't -- the normal process is there would be a case. whatever it is they say would

have to be investigated and a decision made. they would be great in which doesn't happen that often, or denied asylum in which case they would be returned to their country. anybody with a criminal record is pre-much off-limits -- pretty much off-limits. when parents came with their children and let go until a court date was set, many had to wear an ankle when parents ch their children and let go until a court date was set, many had to wear an ankle bracelet. what do you know about the statistics of them returning to court? guest: when parents came with their children and let go until a court date was set, many had to wear an ankle bracelet. what do you know about the statistics of them returning to court? guest: i do have the statistics. i think it is a fair question. the issue is cost. people,es holding these $750 per day per child. or millionking a cup a year. this is an incredible expense for taxpayers.

there are two issues that have to be balanced. if someone requests asylum, the u.s. is part of a treaty but other nations on asylum. when that person knocks on a door and requests asylum we have to consider the request. we don't have to granted. we have to consider it. we have an obligation. the other is the security of the country. there is a screening process before someone is let in. under the obama and bush administrations they would be released pending the hearing. how many did not show up is a good question. i am looking into that. host: john, republican. caller: yes. i often hear people say that while they are here legally, these are people, their families came here years ago. european-american.

i do have a drop of native american in me. if most of my ancestors came 1700s, ihe 1600s and never read were they were invited here. through theer here, brown people on this continent. 1840, california, arizona, new mexico, texas, colorado, wyoming, kansas, that was all mexico. at -- if you ask president trump who his favorite president was. i am sure it would be himself. his second choice would be andrew jackson. if you look to what andrew jackson did to the maid -- native americans, he marched to the most worthless

, to on this country oklahoma. host: we have to get a response. comment.at was more a i am not sure there is much to respond to. the trail of tears was incredibly tragic. the native americans who died along the trail. host: lawrence, florida. caller: how're you doing? it is an honor to speak to the congressman. , i have so much going through my head right now about reagan and the contra, when we went down there and basically tore up that down

there with gunrunning, excuse me, and stuff like that, they had death squads. part of the solution was these people are fleeing their country as refugees. they are not immigrants. think a solution would be to go down there and claim that messed up. -- that mess up. guest: i think we should be doing a lot to help. we have a collapsing governance, gains move in. violence occurs. people are not safe. every one of those women we were talking to, every single one was flying out of fear for their life, or their son or daughter. it was connected to that. you can imagine how scared one would have to be to pick up and just leave where you are living

and then go to this other country. there is something wonderful about that. these people coming here have in their mind and america that i think all of us are proud of. we are seen as a country where we can offer opportunity. you can get a start and do things. they are fleeing the gangs. they are not the gang members. >> did women say they paid people to bring them? did they say how much? were they told where their children were going? guest: the women came up on their own. they were trying to present themselves. they were not trying to sneak in. they were literally coming for the purpose of requesting help.

.ome came across the bridge the bridge was largely closed. they would go across the rio grande. they would go to border control and say please help. they came out on their own by and large. the second thing, they did not know where their kids were. a couple of them had a number. the had been given opportunity to talk to their son or daughter. most women did not know where they were. host: how young? guest: the youngest, three years old. the oldest 13 years old. host: did she know where her three-year-old was? guest: i can't remember. she lived across the bridge. that is totally legal. she presented herself at the bridge and then she was separated. >> democrat.

my question is, thank you for taking my call, why photographers and reporters are , and someallowed in congressmen into the shelters where children are being cared for? it doesn't seem right. to seelic is not allowed how these children are being cared for. i will take my answer on the television. thank you. guest: i agree with you. a senator merkel. he had been down there two weeks before and they would not let him in. that caused a furor. there was a discussion about finding out the conditions of the kids. we were given access to several different facilities.

we were not allowed to speak with the kids or adults. we did have an opportunity to speak with these 10 women. saw is what i was describing. they are in a warehouse. --re is chain leak chain-link fences. walmart converted into housing for 1500 kids. those kids are fed. it is clean. but it is a prison. you can't get out. they get out two hours a day. is in a walmart pop -- walmart parking lot. here, for the kids separated from their parents, the fear and trauma that goes along with it.

i remember when i was four years old, i was safe but i thought i was -- i thought it was the end of the world. mothereparated from my maybe 10 minutes. i still remember that. these kids who are from another country who don't speak the language. they have no idea where their mother or father is. they feel abandoned. that is damaging. however tough this border issue solution't have as a something that inflicts so much hard on kids who were innocent. they did not decide to come here. harm make certain we do no to these kids. host: the president has said congress needs to act. put into law. have aublicans compromise bill they were supposed to vote on. it has been delayed.

will you and other democrats support a compromise bill that deals with the separation? there is a premise that is not correct. there has been no effort to speak to a single democrat about compromise. thecompromise bill is freedom caucus and the rest of the caucus. on the republican side. they've indicated no interest in working with democrats. it was a sad day yesterday. you had leonard lance on here. he was a good member of congress. he was one of the people on the public and side that signed the discharge petition. the discharge petition is the one opportunity under the rules that a majority of the members of the house can act to overrule a speaker refusing to let us vote on the dreamers.

we would have had an opportunity ,o vote on the republican bill a republican moderate bill, and a bipartisan bill. we were two votes, two signatures away from getting that. it is totally bogus for mr. ryan , president trump to suggest we are involved in any discussions on compromise. blaminge president democrats this morning saying republican should hold off on any debate because they are wasting our time. tactic.hat is a if he wants to do that and it is going to be a red wave, he can

say that. this is absurd. there is a mutual responsibility to address the very tough issues on border security. a lot of us in the house were prepared to act on that. it was a pretty good bill. something senator mccain supported. president trump, who was incendiary, to great effect in the campaign, he mowed down the other republicans in the primary. serious there be a toning down of the rhetoric. their livesi met, are really hard. they are not criminals and infesting, like that language that is so destructive.

we would be having a conversation about trying to deal with security and asylum. and actually deal with what we have to have, a rational, since hope to- sensible control the border. host: windy, an independent. caller: i have so many things on my mind. all, i would like to remind, if i was at the senate now, i would tell everyone that 400,000 children in foster care in our country. i did give -- i did get this on the website. there are children coming every day in the foster care system. i know, i am a foster mom. i cannot take care of every one of those children that they call

me for. we can't possibly take care of every one of these people that come across the border. we have to be mindful that they are not all from latin america. they are not all mexican. some want to come here and hurt us. come together as americans, not democrats, not republicans. i needed everybody to understand there are so many children right now in california. children sleeping in lobbies. we are we going to put more children that come into our country? congressmanhelp the -- have the congressman jump in here. guest: thank you for being a mother for 17 years. i admire you for that. people would like to help and they can.

some of the kids who are here can be placed pretty easily with a relative family member. child whether it is a whose parents are addicted, that can be more difficult. that is a separate but urgent problem. been votinguse has on opioid abuse legislation this week. does that continue today? we are going to continue. the opioid epidemic is hurting all of us. it is not a red state blue state situation. in houserisis republicans and democrats want to do something about it. bottom line, the bills are somewhat helpful but they don't plannear the marshall style response we have to have. it will take some money.

i think the role of the federal government is to get resources back to the communities where first responders, health care workers are faith-based groups doing the one-on-one work that is ultimately so essential to help folks who have an addiction . we need money to do that. host: how much? guest: i would say $100 billion, to comprehensively address what is needed around the country for opioid addiction. what has happened is under this administration they are cutting medicaid, where the people who want to get help go to get help. your cutting those funds making the -- not providing the treatment we need. >> what was voted on that will help? .> a couple of provisions a laundry list of several different things. encouraging researchers to come

up with non-opioid ways of addressing pain. goes --ting care that in vermont we are continuing funds to allow that would to be supported for another six months. information to doctors about prescribing practices. alerts when there are some physicians where they are prescribing off the charts as of -- as far as opioids are concerned. not the resources necessary to help communities where the work is done. host: the house is voted on several legislation pieces this week read they are coming in to continue that work before heading home for the weekend. it looks like they are both -- about two gavel in. we will bring you to the house.