minister's question time with theresa may in front of the house of commons. after that, a political reporter hosts a reppo program -- eight wrap-up program on australia's house of commons. ♪ "q&a," freelance journalist tom dunkel. he discusses his "washington the reverendbout sun myung moon and the church they ran in pennsylvania. to talk to youg about your magazine piece in a second, that i want to read back to you what you say in your biography on your website. "i have written about politics, adventure travel, sports and

health medicine, long narratives to essays. withmbed mount kilimanjaro a world-class mountaineer, hiked the arizona desert with senator john mccain, tagged along with high-tech bounty hunters choosing skits, and drove bruce charger."dge why put that in your bio? tom: i am a writer who has never focused on one thing. i have been hopscotching from topic to topic through my career. there are certain advantages to being a specialist in your reporting. there has never been anyone topic area that has grabbed me hard enough and long enough, and for me, part of the joy of reporting is collecting people and experiences. that was a cross-section of some of the experiences i have been

fortunate enough to have peered brian: when did -- to have. brian: when did you do mount kilimanjaro and why? tom: the simple why is because it was for "travel and leisure." what was for intriguing about the piece, you may be familiar with scott fisher, he wound up dying on mount everest. copy, a mountaineering and adventure travel company. rather than take the main hiking upute, he was the back of kilimanjaro, bushwhacking our way up. it was also an opportunity to hike with him. he wasness of that was really good traveling companion. really good photographer, affable guy. he actually asked me to go along on the trip on everest.

climber,a technical but you can get as high as i think 21,000 eight to the upper base camp, and at the time it did not work out with my schedule. home oner being at night and getting a call, 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning, from his assistant. voice ons i heard the my instant machine, and picked up the phone, if you get a call at 3:00 in the morning from a mountaineer assistant, it is not good. but he was a lovely guy. i would have loved to hike with him again. brian: what about crossing the desert with john mccain? when did that happen? tom: that was when he ran for president the first time. i was under contract for a magazine. doing profiles of candidates in the election cycle. i spent about six months on and

off with john. i am sure cindy mccain was not crazy about this, but he said we are going to do a family vacation, bouncing around arizona and doing some town meetings and hiking. some hiking.ing it was john, cindy, and three of the kids. i am sure cindy was not crazy about having a reporter bouncing around in the car for six days but she was quite nice about it. reporters.d with brian: what about the bounty hunters? tom: that was a "washington post" piece, about two years ago. my editor is a wonderful guy, he wanted to do a piece on bounty hunters, high-tech bounty hunters for a while. trouble finding a person to cooperate, so he finally through the story to me.

find aortunate enough to bondsman in arlington, outside of d.c. he uses bounty hunters to track down guys who don't pay for their bail. whoere tracking down a guy was in long island, as i recall. the funny thing is, these are guys who skipped out on their bail bondsman, but the alert of is what they skip call someone who has skipped bond, and they can find a lot of them on facebook, and create an identity of a young, hot chick, and track them down. that's what we did. brian: on may 27, i got my

sunday "washington post," and you wrote the cover story about, among other things, this gentleman on the cover. who is this fellow? his proper name is challenge and moon -- he goes by moon, he is one of the sons of reverend moon from the unification church. reverend moon died in 2012 and left confusing signals on what to do with the church after his passing. tapped byan had been reverend moon a couple of times in ceremony as his heir and successor, but when exactly do you succeed him? after his death, after his wife

dies? there was a family breakup after that, and eventually sean and his other brother who goes by the name of justin essentially broke away from the family and founded their own church in pennsylvania. churchf the unification community have been torn between staying with the main church, which is now headed by reverend wife, or to navigate and travel with the new church. the new church, as you know from , ising the piece ideologically quite a bit different from the unification church. i am sure will -- sure we will get into the details of that. brian: for someone who is never heard of reverend moon, here is some video of him preaching some years ago. [video clip]

>> america must return to the true founding spirit of the nation. torica must return absolutely got centered ideology -- god centered ideology. brian: who was he? tom: reverend moon is a fascinating character. if you look at his life story, regardless of what you think ,bout the unification church his life's journey was incredible. he was born in 1920 as i recall , itwhat is now north korea had been annexed by japan. in poverty, manages to work his way through school. i think he got a scholarship to attend college in tokyo and study electrical engineering.

got involved a little bit with the korean independence movement in college. ran into some problem with japanese authorities. gets his degree, goes back to korea, and when he was 15 years old, he had a vision where he was visited by christ and told 's mission. jesus he basically starts his own church, and the pictures of it -- a little hovel of church of a church made out of cardboard. he got in trouble with the authorities in north korea. ,here is always some dispute his version of the biography is that the korean authorities considered him an agitator and he was jailed several times in korea. he finally got sent to a work

camp for two years, mining coal. brian: this was the north. tom: it is still the north, but ,his is world war ii korea actually, at that point, north korea was split. migrates to south korea, there was a lot of traffic from north korea to south korea. he starts to church, moves to eoul and starts a church. , sanctityy centered of marriage. homosexuality, anything outside of traditional marriage was

anathema to him. he eventually has 30 churches in seoul and it keeps growing. the controversy with reverend moon and the unification church were there aggressive recruiting techniques, among other things. but they grow and grow, and in the late 1960's he decides to come to the u.s. unite the world under one religion and he considered himself the second messiah. , gets a to the u.s. little more involved politically , his group marriages i think were the thing he was most known for. onies were everywhere in the state. they were in the streets. selling trinkets and joy, but a

tremendous amount of money was coming to the church. contacts int of korea, the korean military. his vision of the church did not stop at the doors of the church. his notion was that businesses, and they wound up fueling a number of holding companies and businesses, he considered as part impartial of his church, something the fuel to drive the church. was in 1970, there was a congressional subcommittee that investigated the moonies. intelligencehe subcommittee in the house, and they did a thorough review, called the fraser report. terminology, you could not regard the unification church as a church, they called

it the moon organization, that is how wide the umbrella spread. old privatewn an detective, now retired, who had looked into the church back then. he said they were the largest private landholder in the world at one point. the tentacles of their company went into everything from sushi, toing soda, to supplying anti-aircraft parts to the south korean army. had built this empire, and eventually after the fraser report was out, they suggested a furtherld be investigation attempts, which there was not paired -- was not. the irs looked into him, and the outcome is that he was found guilty of tax evasion. $162,000, if i recall. he wound up serving 13 months in

federal prison in connecticut and became somewhat of a cause for perhaps the government being too aggressive in the prosecution of him. while he's in church, ever the businessman, he makes plans to found the "washington times" newspaper after he gets out, which he did. takes greatily pride with that. they regard what he did with the "washington times" as the first powerful alternative conservative voice in american media, predating in their minds, the precursor to breitbart, drudge report, whatever. moon nevereverend got full credit for that. the late 1990's, there was a

tell all book written by one of his daughter-in-law spirit brian: -- daughter-in-law's. brian: how many total children? and his second wife, they had 14 children. one child died in childbirth. 13 lived into adulthood. three of those children died early in two adulthood, one son died in a car accident. another son died of heart convocations from alcohol and drugs -- heart complications from alcohol and drugs. the other died from suicide. the moon family was not absolved from tragedy. brian: he died in 2012, 92 years old. -- before we do

that, i want people to see what sean looks like. ,ean and justin, these two sons are harvard graduate. tom: yes. sean has a masters of divinity from harvard. laude frommagnet cum harvard in economics. newfoundland, in pennsylvania. what is the church called? tom: it is called sanctuary church. rod of iron ministries is kind of a subtitle. brian: we go back to the picture of sean from earlier, is that the rod in his hand? -- ar-16 and a are 16

semiautomatic rifle. brian: gold. tom: yes, and it works. in 2012, they have the split and it takes him a little while to figure out -- he has a fracturing with his family. sean is an interesting guy. harvard without of his masters degree, he was practicing buddhism for about eight to 10 years. still on good terms with the family, but while the family is involved in the unification church, he is pursuing buddhism. the dalai lama invited him to spend some time in india. to the church shortly before reverend moon's

death, about two years before. he got involved in the church, and when reverend moon died, there was a big fracturing. that was his time in the wilderness, if you will. he finally decides to start his own ministry, comes to the u.s., and his brother justin already as a business in the u.s. part of the unification business empire, if you will. he had a gun manufacturing company. this is just in. -- is justin. it was headquartered in new york state, but he was looking to move to pennsylvania for certain reasons, some gun restrictions were passed by the new york state legislature. he was thinking pennsylvania by that time. sean is thinking of starting his own trajectory time, so early 2013, they are moving to pennsylvania. ministry out his of the private house at that

time. then he did some church services in the best western hotel. by 2014, he opens an actual physical church, but it was not until last fall, which surprised me, that his ministry takes an unusual turn. as he tells it, he was reading the book of revelation in the which is essentially an almost hallucinogenic version of the future. 1 a.d. andten in typical scholars are not sure who wrote it. it is a vision of the epic clash between good and evil, seven seals, dragons, false prophets, allegory or literal depending on

how you want to read it. brian: let's watch some video sean moon at his church up in pennsylvania. >> you say oh yes, we support gun ownership because it is a constitutional right in america. they serve a utilitarian purpose if we get attacked. no, you pieces of trash and stupid people, it is the center of christianity. the center of jesus his own -- jesus's own vision. brian: the crown on his head is made of what? the one of the followers of church made it from rifle shells, the gunpowder removed, and polished up. he had read the book of ofelation, it makes a number references to what is called a "rod of iron."

sean interprets that literally as not just a rifle, but specifically the ar-15. crowbar or why not a whatever? mind, he glommed onto mandate toiblical bear arms. one of the tenants of the -- ten et of their belief system is all personal sovereigns in god's kingdom and you have a responsibility to protect yourself, protect your family, and god need you to protect his kingdom, as well. the notion of individual sovereignty is very important to them.

part of sovereignty, again, is being able to defend yourself and prepare yourself both for , butlypse and end times also just in your daily life. to their is central religion and what makes them controversial. you can think of the unification church, if the nra established a religion, this is what it would be like. brian: here is a minute of the church lessing ceremony. -- church blessing ceremony. this is february of this year. [video clip] ♪

♪ brian: i can hear people watching right now, saying to themselves a number of things. "q&a" doing this, what difference does it make? just as importantly, why did tom dunkel do this, and why did the "washington post" with this on

the front of their sunday magazine? what is the point of this? tom: what we were interested in and what we found intriguing is that what is going on at sanctuary church and up in pennsylvania is a co-mingling of a lot of undercurrents in the politics,f religion, and guns. to a degree we have not seen before. it is still a small church, no question about that. sean has a worldwide following, my guess would be maybe 200 people in the congregation total 500-2000lvania, and worldwide. these days, you can follow a tube.h on you to -- on you but it is that co-mingling of passion in america, and what say about us as a

culture, and is this a precursor of what we might see down the road? when you let the genie out of the bottle of mixing guns and religion in any society, it has usually been problematic, and the neutral politics into the mix. will we see other splinter church groups like this? will he be able to control his congregation? will it grow? also the language coming out of the church is very disturbing in some ways, and i talked to sean and justin about this. i am currently working on a book about the german resistance and world war ii. what resonated with me is that a lot of the language of where you describe others as demons, as parasites, as leeches, as

subhuman, a lot of that, intentional or not, and giving the beneficial -- the benefit of the doubt it is not intentional, it leads to fascism. which is becoming more common in our country. we were looking at this as a petri dish of those trends coming together. also did not want to demonize these people, or cast them as cartoonish. the objective of the story was to send someone up there, that someone being me, to spend a little time with these people, the congregation, and try to get a sense of why this is appealing to people. but also to get a little bit of a better window on that church and assuming, if you look at the visuals, guns, church, these are crazy people. it is not that simple. brian: i want to show his

brother justin. who is older? tom: justin is older, he is 407i 47, ie and -- he is believe. is harvardhe educated? tom: yes. brian: and he is selling the guns. tom: yes. [video clip] ♪ >> look at what i have got here today. my god, take a look at this. .his is a vfr look at that. it even has my initials on it. brian: where is this store? about 15 little town miles from the church, in greeley, pennsylvania.

rural pennsylvania. justin decided to move his business there for a couple of reasons, one of which was pennsylvania being more gun friendly than new york. he still has a manufacturing facility in worcester, massachusetts, but the plan is to move it all to pennsylvania eventually. now he has a large showroom guns,and he also designs so he has a little research facility beneath the showroom. he became fascinated with guns as a kid. reverend moon was an outdoorsman and he hunted, but guns were not part of the unification church message. 's story goes that he shot a pistol for the first time at 14 and fell in love with guns. while he was at harvard, he was

tinkering around and designing guns on his own. he wanted to build a really small, compact distal -- pistol, which he went up doing. shortly after he left harvard, he started a little business, and eventually designed a very lightweight pistol. it was apparently considered a breakthrough in firearms technology. but it was popular enough that a lot of police departments started buying these as second weapons for officers to carry, and the public gobbled them up. i think he is about the 15th largest gun manufacturer in the united states now. a parentheticals thought, when you write an article like this, a lot of material gets left on the cutting room floor. , according to the

nra, something like 900,000 nra members are within a 300 mile radius of harrisburg, pennsylvania, the capital of the state. when i was up there for the story, i came upon another gun manufacturer in pennsylvania that actually manufactures a line of rifles for kids. they have two lines, the chipmunk rifle and the cricket rifle. i went on to the website, it is called keystone sporting goods or something. i went on the website, and there is a letter from a dad to the owners of the company saying your guns are terrific, lightweight, accurate. i bought one for my five-year-old and seven-year-old, and i think this is terrific. and as a non-gun owner, i am thinking, what is more discomforting about that?

the fact there is a company making a line of rivals -- of rivals for five-year-old, or that their parents lying them -- buying them? but this is part of the backdrop of what is going on up there with sanctuary tours. -- sanctuary church. the message of guns, i asked sean over and over -- these are responsible people. the people i met in the congregation were decent folk, no wide-eyed crazies. why are guns resonating so deeply? do a high-tech church service, visuals, slides. slides on, there were rates of homicide versus concealed weapon ownership. another one on child fatalities

versus handgun availability. and this is in the church as part of his sermon. why has that so led into -- so character of the church that this is become their message? i don't have a firm answer for that, but it speaks to a certain dissatisfaction with the world and with our country. it is a very -- again, lovely people, with a very dark message. at times it gets almost dystopian. the country is falling apart, the world is falling apart, you better have a gun to protect yourself. brian: here is a political connection from august the 2016, what you write about. isyou look closely, there

eric trump, the son of donald trump. [video clip] [indiscernible] brian: it's not a great video, not great audio. but that was eric trump speaking. what was he doing there? 29, i believe it was august 2016, toward the end of august. brian: august 30. tom: it is a campaign stop. that it was the hand of god. he got a call out of the blue

from the trump campaign saying eric wants to come. keep in mind, you are entering the final leg of a campaign, pennsylvania is a swing state, consulting has a lot of gunowners. that would be a way to court some votes. , uh, the subsequence of that, when i was reporting the story, they held a trump thank you dinner. the church was one of the sponsors of it, up in pennsylvania. --you get into the deeper again, this is the crossroads of religion and politics. the moons, meaning justin and sean, will tell you god's hand at work in the presidential campaign, and they consider a vehicle, a man

god is using to bring about what they consider god's kingdom on earth. brian: here is some video from the thank you dinner held back on february 24 of this year. [video clip] [indiscernible] >> this is a dystopian how on earth, these global leaders and their sociopathic followers desire to create a future. brian: on the back wall, the

name larry pratt, i don't know how to characterize him. he is stronger in an attitude about guns even then the nra. was this a fundraiser for something? an old statistic, that supposedly the reverend moon spent over $1 billion for the first 30 years of the "washington times" of his money. do these two guys have his money? tom: no. --ean, they are not particularly justin is a good businessman, so he has money. he is the head of a foundation , a foundation in memory of their younger brother philip who committed suicide. it supplies a lot of the money to the century church.

could sanctuary church just -- church. brian: they bought a lot of land? tom: a lot of land, the church. contributions from members. , it isot tithing voluntary support from members. the supposition is that justin is an important financial pillar of the church. he is very active in the church. but there has been a divorce from the family, businesswise. justin originally opened his gun business as part of the unification church business empire, and he negotiated a separation from that so that he is totally removed and is now a self standing business. brian: let me give you a quote from your own article.

shawn called his mother core of babylon -- whore of babylon. she is still running the unification church? tom: yes. brian: what is that about? tom: it speaks to the degree of family fracture. it is from the book of revelation and connotes a betrayal of god. the deeper fisher, and forgive me, the korean names i sometimes mangle. their mother, now head of the unification church, which now calls itself the family federation for world peace and unification. they did a rebranding. she took over the church, her notion is that she was married to reverend moon for 52 years and they were partners in his ministry and therefore she would be his designated successor. brian: she is 75 now.

tom: i believe. she was 20 years younger than he was. she initiated some changes in the church. some of the language is more gender-neutral. parentfer to god as rather than father. she also, one of the more controversial things, reverend moon left behind a large body of a written theological work. one of which is called eight great textbooks. his wife felt that was not approachable enough, not user-friendly enough, so she edited them down to three textbooks. among some followers, it was considered heretical. the sons considerate heresy for her to have essentially taken the church away from sean, the contention being that reverend moon met for sean to be his successor.

meant for seann to be his successor. the fracture is so bad, the unification church, like many in asian societies, believe in an active active -- activists your -- and active afterlife. they divorced their mother from their father, and they held a wedding ceremony to reverend moon, now deceased, to one of his earliest followers. is her surname. essentially, they married their father to another woman. sean took it a step further, he gave a sermon on how unhappy the that it was a

contentious and unhappy marriage. justin has taken it a step further, where he actually has publicly said his mother should be executed. heresy.crime of are verybrothers direct in their language. i certainly give them credit for their candor. separatelywith them for long sit-down interviews and i said, i understand in the heat of the moment, when you're speaking in public, sometimes you can say things you don't mean, you could be speaking figuratively rather than literally. are there things you want to take back? some of the language can be very cutting and harsh. mother,ific to his

justin, do you stand by that? he said, i am not a politician or running for office. it is on the record and i stand by what i said. some of them in children i spoke who has notster spoken publicly about this before, it took a little bit of negotiating and soul-searching on her part to even speak in public about this for the article. she still harbors a notion that the family will somehow reconcile. she had a lovely quote that we had to cut for space, to get down to deadline time, but she memory -- love is a stronger the memory. she said, i have great faith in my mother's capacity to live her children.

thestill hopes that somehow two branches of the family are going to reconcile both theologically and personally. brian: where does mother lives? tom: she is primarily in korea now. a spectacular, what they call a peace palace, about two hours north of seoul, it is modeled on the u.s. capital, and alabaster palace. she spends most of her time there. brian: who owns the "washington times." tom: the unification church. brian: what is the circulation today? tom: i don't know. it is still a viable conservative voice. -- i don't even know if they are doing a print edition anymore, i think it is mostly online.

brian: it is still in print, we get it along with everything else. tom: the commitment is still there, but when reverend moon was alive, that was his important step child. brian: explain this video. sean's wife talking. [video clip] >> i know about, when he asked me to do something, it is not a personal thing that he makes me do it, because he wants me to do it or wants to pressure me to make him look good, to oppress me or whatever, those negative -- it is not negative reasons. i trust him enough that when he , he actually has a very specific reason, and he good for the it is

nation and for me. brian: how many children do they have? tom: five. brian: and justin? tom: seven. brian: what was she saying there ? tom: i don't know the question, what my guess is it had something to do with the role of women in the church. it is very patriarchal. sometimes cany get conflated and misunderstood. again, the language can be quite strong, and if you read, there are other things justin and sean have said about women that would speak to a subservient role. having an of women obligation, and again, marriage is central to the religion. unmarriedchelor or woman is almost unthinkable to them. brian: and they had mass

weddings. tom: they don't do that anymore, they are pretty much a relic of the past. the unification church does not do it anymore, and certainly not the sanctuary church. but they speak about women having an obligation to honor the husband and respect to the same time, they are very empowering with women, as well. to the point of even martial arts training and such in terms of confidence and self-reliance. the language and sound a little bit harsh in terms of the role --women, but it is not quite these are not shy women up there. brian: let me show you a picture of an older woman holding, i 15, sitting in ar- what i assume is the church. you have no doubt see this -- seen this picture before. tom: yes, that without the blessing ceremony. brian: why do they need to have

a rifle? tom: it is the symbolism. that got ae ceremony lot of nationwide, even international attention. that was february 28. the ceremony itself, again, without getting too deeply into have what they call stages of blessings for events, including marriage. most of the people at that ceremony were couples who were already married. they were getting another level of blessing, kind of renewing their vows in front of sean. church.ng of the and his wife. in some cases, women who were widowed where there, again, because you have a very active spirit world. they were there in memory of their husbands, as well.

then, this gets into co-mingling of guns and religion. ,hey were not blessing guns that was one of the misconceptions of that ceremony, but as part of the ceremony, sean was encouraging people to 5s with them to the ceremony. you may have noticed, the triggers were zip tied, there were no bullets in the magazines in the rifles. symbolismaks to the and importance of self-defense and a gun to your individual sovereignty and the church. brian: under the circumstances of what you saw, is this a tax-free institution? and whatever, however the structure a church, is that the same thing with the gun shop? tom: the gun shop would be a

private business. -- church is a fire 13 c 5013c. brian: what is preventing us from inventing a church and putting a crown on her head and saying you have to carry a gun? tom: that is what, that is the question. there is what is called a johnson amendment in the tax code, named after lyndon johnson , i believe adopted in the 1950's. in essence, it says a nonprofit, particularly church, you cannot be overly political or endorse candidates. it is rarely enforced. this is a church that really tiptoes that line. point,, they made a again, during the last presidential election of casting it that god was watching the

election and judging how we were going to vote. the cast this in terms of biblical story of the garden of eden. through some wade of the language you quoted him as saying. on als case, it is sean ing not back. -- nut bag. on 9/11, a false flag. liberals, the most despicable, thieving, conniving, onipulating, evil people the planet. justin on the united nations, satanic. on democrats, they should be rounded up and put in prison and

executed. tom: i don't know where they got that notion. they are very inflammatory with their language. i specifically asked justin about it. why the hot rhetoric? was, because some of you people they disagree with our classified as satanic. he said, i am a believer and i speak in the language of the atanic andaning stani demons. speak thision was, i way among my fellows, and if you had a group of liberals together and they talked politics, they would use language similar to this. i don't think in some measure, the sanctuary church appreciates that rhetoric. is, where is this your responsibility for that message and what it might do to other people?

perfect case in point, we had a situation here in washington, pizza parlor on connecticut avenue that for some alt-right the conservative circles, the word got out that hillary clinton was running a pedophile ring under this pizza parlor. wars wass on info repeating this, and the information got out there. a poor guy in north carolina washington,ves to not a sanctuary church member. i don't mean to imply that. but he went in and shot the place up because he was looking for child sex slaves. he is now doing for years in prison for that. there are people, and i spoke to some church members who left the

century church, who were concerned about the messaging. and the hotness of the rhetoric, and you can't control those words after you speak them as to how it affects your congregation or people who are following your congregation, nonmembers. that is the danger when you mix that with guns. brian: sean moon, citing info wars, which is alex jones out of texas, 30 seconds of video. mentioning george soros. [video clip] >> we knew they were trying to set the stage at because they were throwing their own people under the bus as sacrificial lambs, like al franken. there were evidence of photos of him grabbing a woman's breasts, groping her when she did not want to be groped. but now it is coming up that soros is a funder of those

sexual allegations. absolutely huge. soros is a favorite whipping boy of the sanctuary church. service, thein the same hot language toward margaret sanger. she was a racist, hated blacks. soros was a nazi. george soros was 14 years old at the end of world war ii. ight has this up that he was a nazi. but george soros was -- brian: jewish. and hillaryand him clinton are sort of the talk radio villains. it is part of the message.

it will be interesting watching the church going forward. number one, will they lose control of the message with some and they areers, tiptoeing a dangerous line. politics and words ic and demons, which they did in the last election with ms. clinton. opera --mel's satanic, oprah is satanic. when you mix that language with guns, and mix it with an antigovernment message, the roots of their antigovernment sentiments go back to their father's experience. brian: we have a couple of minutes. here inot in a car washington, d.c., how long does it take you to get from new zealand, pennsylvania?

-- newfoundland, pennsylvania? tom: you can make it in about four half hours. i made three trips. brian: why did they talk to you? tom: it is interesting, they refer to as the "washington post " as the washington compost and jeff baze owes is not on their favorites list either. exposure, just the partly out of curiosity. they were surprisingly open with me. i was up there more than other reporters, but that blessing ceremony, which attracted the media attention, and were very good. there were very few restrictions, and the restrictions were common sense restrictions. i was not -- you never get full access to the things you want on a story, but they were more open than i expected.

i was also somewhat surprised, we caught more flak on this story from people who are opponents of the unification church and reverend moon feeling we did not go hard enough on sean moon. felt surprised that sean it was fair and balanced. brian: those who want to read it, it is from the may 27 magazine of the "washington post." they can read it online? tom: it still lives online. our goal was a more nuanced approach. we were not out to do a cartoonish piece. brian: the name of the article is "locked and loaded for the we thank you very much. ♪

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p.m. eastern on c-span. after that the latino advocacy us is really holding its conference in washington. that event starts at 1:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. >> both chambers of congress are in session this week, the house and senate are back after the july 4 recess. the judicial nomination of work than it is being considered -- mark bennett is being considered. also this week debate and possible votes on executive nominations. follow the senate live on c-span 2. the house returns to consider several bills, vote scheduled at 6:30. debate on intelligence programs which covers intel related activities related to the cia and nsa. watch the house live on c-span.

announcer 1: president donald trump will announce his nominee for the supreme court, filling the vacancy left are the retiring justice anthony kennedy. watch the announcement live monday night at 8:00 eastern -- 9:00 eastern on c-span and c-span.org or listen on the radio map. -- app . now to london for this week's question time. she spoke about a range of domestic and foreign issues. she talked about the safety about houses used by british children here this is 50 minutes. mr. bercow: order. questions to the prime minister. tommy shepherd. thank you, mr. speaker. pm may: mr. speaker, i am sure