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carnegie endowment for international peace. >> good morning, everyone. , the chief operating officer here at the carnegie endowment for
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international peace and we are delighted this morning to welcome michel barnier, the eu's negotiator for brexit. when we planned this event we didn't know it would be quite so timely, but we were lucky in that regard. i think you are all very familiar with mr. barnier's illustrious career as a european statesman, first as a politician and cabinet member in france and then with the european union starting in the -- with president borosso when he was in -- when he was president, he was given this very easy task of negotiating the brexit withdrawal in december of 2016 and has been working very hard at that since then. so we're delighted to welcome mr. barnier this morning. he will speak for a few minutes and then we will have a brief conversation between us and then we will take questions from the audience. you all have a copy on your chairs of his powerpoint
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presentation and for those of you watching via the live stream, if you look on the side of the screen you will see a place to access the pdf file so you can follow along. so without further adieu, let's welcome mr. michelle barnier. i'm going to go down here. let's welcome mr. michelle. >> good morning to all of you in this room and to everyone watching online. thank you very much. this is a challenging task, i can tell you . with the e.u. there are 37 states.
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we can begin and i regret this vote in the uk two years ago. but to respect it now we have done it in the best way possible. >> today i am finishing my visit in the u.s., where i wanted to make the european voice heard on brexit . just like in europe - know when i met in the u.s. this week would find any added value to the brexit. let me briefly tell you where we are in the and negotiations.
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we are at stakes we're looking to leave the e.u. at the end of march next year. this is true. our goal is to ensure an orderly withdrawal. here is the last treaty on which we are looking to work with. >> this was my team, draft number three t on the legal form.
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>> we have made good progress and have agreed to protect the city's involved on both sides. we want to keep the current right for employment and social rights. we agree on the spanish settlement between the uk and the eu. they will be paid as 28 and we agreed also for the tradition period of 21 months during which we will prevail
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with the economic and social stuff between us 21 months after we leave. >> if we agree, we will be free. >> we seem to get legal certainty on everything we need . this will give businesses more time to prepare for the status. we remain open. the most difficulty is were we have to find solutions to avoid the return of the border.
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>> i discussed this issue yesterday on capital hill. the shared the concern on preserving it. we must exit right now and work on our future relationship with the uk. >> the partnership will be based on - one free-trade agreement with no tariffs. two, a specific corporation of coming to the last and aviation. three, judicial corporation. and form policy. once again, we
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want to build a closed partnership with the uk in the future for the long-term. >> we are analyzing the way people yesterday by the government. we will do it in the light of the european leaders guidelines . we will assess whether uk politicians are workable and realistic. >> the key element of this relationship will be about foreign policy, security and such. >> the uk is and will remain an important player in european security.
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accounts for 20% of europeans funding. it is a diplomatic outrage. yet you do not put european security at risk. the admiration between the uk and european countries will continue. the partnership with nato will further expand. they are not affected by brexit. still, the nature of the e.u. relationship is about to change. what does that mean? we can shape the european union's action diplomacy, development or difference.
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it is simply the consequences of the decision to leave the european union. we share in values with the uk. we both promote international order and will continue to face the same global challenges. not a single european country can solve these challenges alone. it is also true, but challenging with climate change, poverty, migration or financial crisis. building on all this, our
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differences in security should be ambitious in scope. we should cooperate wherever we share this. we will continue defending together with the nuclear deal. is always clear we are largely converging on three issues with the uk. prime policy, sanctions policy and military operations. and obviously in any case the more the uk engages alongside the e.u. , the deeper our partnership is likely to be. our close cooperation with the uk will not ensure the next relationship with other
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partners. that is to be determined and investing in security as a matter of priority. >> it is our responsibility, but we do not do for ourselves. no one will do for us. it is even more true now than ever. the we are running 16 missions, six military operations >> we are reviewing to be more responsive and efficient. we are setting up defense funds
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for the weapons systems. it is the very first time the e.u. budget will invest in military. ultimately, my colleague for a long time says it means a stronger nato. just an example, first states have good reason to invest more , better and together. the debates on the european side not only on how much is spent, how efficiently the money is spent. the defense fund should boost corporations. another example is mobility so the military.
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you propose to invest 6.5 billion euros for military asset. >> this will automatically benefit the e.u. and nato. they have a partnership that is spectacular, as confirmed yesterday in russia. just to conclude, you came expecting e.u..
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elizabath: the white paper was released yesterday and i know you haven't had a chance to study it in depth, but i'm sure you've read it. michel: yes, i spent part of my night. elizabath: i'm sure you did. were there any surprises in there or anything that gave you perhaps some new openings, some new ways to move forward? michel: my team in brussels is working clearly under each details of this proposal. first of all, the fact that the u.k. discussed about the future is welcome, it's a good thing. on my side i have to work on the basis of a proposal to the uk a few months ago in march, a very precise proposal, very ambitious proposal, it's clearly described in one of these slides, if you look at this slide you can see what could be the architecture of the future relationship. in our view.
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i can tell you never in the past we have proposed such a partnership with a said country. never. never. tell you, never in the past have we proposed such a partnership with a set country, never. never. this will be the first time. >> there is trade and a specific corporation where we need to have an agreement with the uk, security and the subject of my speech in the beginning. uk leaving the e.u. in a few months automatically will have 750 international - including an example. this guy
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is a public organization. came to land, came to take off. there is a combination for the pilots and certifications. we managed it together. the uk is leaving. so we must have an agreement for the british airlines to rise, land and take off in its country. we have to negotiate with each and every country. that is our
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proposal for the corporation and organizations. >> and looking at the way paper, it seems the uk has moved forward in its proposal. as we all know, the prime minister has gone a lot of criticism and heat at home for what is being termed a soft brexit. accepting harmonization of rules and trade - you yourself have said that up until now about 80% of what needs to be agreed has been agreed - leaving the 20%, which is probably the hardest 20%. in any negotiation, it takes
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two to move. do you see any flexibility on the e.u.'s part? >> just to avoid misunderstanding and confusion - in this long and extraordinary negotiation, it is unique, but we will do everything for this exit to be unique. there are several steps. you have to put them in the right order. the first step is about the divorce of the separation. where organizing this. -- we are organizing this through the treaty. >> what i said about the 80% agreed is about this treaty.
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the guidelines provided in march about the new situations. what is at stake is the trainee from now until october or november. the treaty has been defined x months after. we have a political differ ration about the organization. about why this may be useful and we are to check it to address guidelines. >> two different exercises. there is a treaty of the paper and a political correction on the side. obviously we would have to negotiate. we have clear
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guidelines. there a 27 liters, 27 states of government that meet every three months. to give you a clear mandate, to negotiate with the uk and to protect the mainstream of the single market. the uk noses -- knows perfectly what it's made of because we have been doing this for 44 years. i have been commissioner at least five years we believe with the uk - the uk has always had
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a clear information. we call the four freedoms, people, good services and capital. we have to work within the framework of these to find the best solution possible. >> you mentioned - >> to be clear, this could be strange and there is no reason or justification for us to unravel what we are because the uk is leaving. we have to work and protect
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what we are. >> principles and probation of the market. >> is this a point in time when the uk is leaving and the rest of you are staying? there are other places in europe where you are hearing concerns or complaints about the rules and regulations of the eu. is this a point perhaps when the eu could take a look at taking a more foot double approach to relations with countries that are not full members quick >> we have one per week in the
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capital, business committees and trade unions. i'm a politician, i think we have to deal with the consequences and lessons of brexit . >> we need to change what needs to be changed. if you listen to any critic on the way the single market is working - it is a foundation. it is our most common and strongest assets. u.s. business could come in one country and
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be open with 27 other states, same rules, same certification, same stand out in supervision there is no contest. we are a single market for business and european consumers. >> and needs to be supervised and satisfied the same way. when you are leaving a country, you become that country to illegal points. i see that we need flexibility on some of our policies. we have the right tool for it.
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some countries are not - i see that day 27 needs flexibility. the mainstream foundation of the eu single market - never forget what happened at the beginning of the first world war . state men decided to avoiding a war between us and constellated -- consolidated toward the economy for the first economy first deal in the 50s.
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this is the foundation. it is difficult to compromise on this foundation. >> we're 27 and 28, so we need some flexibility. in our treaty, we have a tool for flexibility. >> some countries can take initiative and others are not obliged. sometimes we have to explain what we are. the functioning of the e.u. is complex . we are not a
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federal state and we don't want to be. we're 28 nations with 28 peoples and 24 national languages. we have 20 national identities, different cultures and traditions. each and every european country wants to keep these. >> the point is, for 60 years we succeeded with national policy without knowing everything. united doesn't mean uniform. that's why it's so complex to make it work. let me just give you an example.
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>> when i am at a council meeting to speak on brexit we had allowed room with interpreters. >> they were interpreting what ice they in french and 23 other languages. it is complex. is costly. so it could be less complex and cost the. we could all speak the same language, english. >> [ laughter ] i don't want to monopolize the time, but i'm going to ask one more question.
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>> i'm not sure the british people got the message. maybe if they had, you wouldn't have a job. [ laughter ] >> i worked with them for a long time. i have been commissioner twice. we built the architecture after the crisis. 41 regulations for banks, markets and we succeeded in 39 of the 41 initiatives to get the uk on board. it wasn't by chance, not against the city, but with the city. >> we want to keep the uk together.
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>> last question for me and then we will go to the audience. you said march 29, 2019 is the deadline. what if there isn't an agreement? >> let me understand this, march 17. >> to gear negotiation. -- get negotiation.
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>> the policies for 21 months. >> what if everything doesn't go well? what kind of contingency plan are you making? it's an ambitious negotiating schedule and as you rightly point out, it was determined by the brits. when they triggered article 50 - but what if you can't reach an agreement? >> on both sides we have to be prepared. she spoke about the planning and preparedness and the risk that exists. the option is to reach a deal for the continent stability. i am working with my team to reach a deal, respecting rules and principles of you and
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redlines of the uk. >> in any case we are to be prepared with companies and businesses for the brexit. >> if you look at my slide - no copyright. you can see on one side the different model of operation we have had for a long time. in any case, we will remember the e.u. . the second best will be to mom
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-- be a member of the ea. open space of the economy like norway. norway is out of the e.u. , but part of the market. >> the last one is working with the uk about the free-trade agreement. all the steps are available for the uk. being part of the single market, plus a custom unit. it is their choice. on the other side of the paper, i put the redlines of the uk. >> you don't want to respect a court of business, pay, or the movement of people and don't want to be part of our trade
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policy - we will expect this redline. but that closes the door. >> they go down the stairs, yes. >> wait for the microphone, identify yourselves and make it a question, not a statement. >> hi there, and he said you don't want to talk about mr. trump, but his advice is to walk away and leave the e.u.. >> who is we? >> the uk, i'm british media. mr. trump's advice is uk should walk away. surely that must worry you, as
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someone who is supposed to be negotiating a deal. >> i have not changed my position over the last 10 years. the uk is leaving. the uk is leaving. we respect the vote and i have been working so hard for the last year. i am working for another withdrawal. >> morning, thank you so much.
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you mentioned you can envision custom units. my question would be for the service sector. my question is, what it affect the service industry? it appears to me if the right paper was chose, the good industry would be in contrast. a lot of the economy chose hardbacks it. -- hard brexit. >> exceptionally qualified as a commissioner, thank you very much. >> i didn't want to go into details, but you are speaking
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about preparedness, but also in the case of early with draw, we need to protect very carefully what would happen to the financial market. we have brought together the bank of england, acb and we are working clearly to identify the risk to mitigate and put the private sector in front of it's only race response ability. i think they asked first of all to be prepared and to carefully see the exposure to the uk market. i don't want to commend the daily work of this group, but we're carefully planning this issue out.
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>> i am from the economic institute. for the purpose of future cooperation with the uk, is it important to the e.u. that you make them attend the human convention on human rights? >> yes. >> that was an easy one. >> the key principle we have to take is we have to respect the decisions, the market and the situation with the city. and to be part of the convention is one part of the response peer
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>> hi, i'm from the irish times. i wanted to get more views on the irish backstop. you mentioned 80% of the agreement had more or less been agreed. you didn't say the remaining 20% was just ireland. ireland is a problem that has not been resolved. where do things and? is this going to have to have a deal be done by october? >> following my mandate with the 27 states, i am a negotiator as well as the 26 others, we must have an agreement, that is
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the primal thing in the treaty. if we want the treaty, or to withdraw, we must have an operational backs but -- back stop. >> i don't want to come back between the two countries. we have two countries and no border thanks to what we call the good friday agreement 20 years ago. establish the peace and dialogue and there is no border. there is no border between communities south and north. there are about 42 different types of corporations. they are very human, social, environmental issues. it is a
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good friday. am very engaged and involved in this process. i was the commissioner 40 - 50 years ago of this program. >> so we have to be very careful. the uk and us are committed to protect the negotiation and all the dimensions. that means no border. the point is part of the island is a part of the uk and is in the single market. the business is everywhere. we have all of these controls.
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these are all the controls implemented at each and every border of the eu in every way. greece, finland, france, everywhere. implement all of these controls inside the supermarket. >> to be clear, parts are already implemented. there are animal controls implemented. >> the senior market will
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implement somewhere these controls. this particular border needs controls. i will try in the next few months to re-dramatize the controls like the technical and safety controls or custom checks . we can see where and when we can embellish from the technical base to ensure the integrity. it's not a question to be clear . it's not a question of the border. we want to respect the order in the uk, but you have to look at there is no border. any case this is the responsibility. she agreed and a official letter in march to
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the backstop of the agreement. >> together we found a better solution after. but in any case, we have a backstop. it can be improved, but we need one to ensure no border and controls. i am very concerned. the situation is about people and peace. >> hi, my name is andrew hyde and i am curious about your time in washington.
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i am interested about your time and what you are seeking from the u.s., leaving the sun in interview of side. do you see the u.s. is role positively or negatively with brexit? would you need ? >> it's clear because of our solidarity. it seems to me it is useful to give your provision and acquisition for your voice to be heard. there were two
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days in new york with ambassadors and united nations taking orders. 30 days in washington with the chairman and the reserve. >> just to explain what is at stake, why we went to reach an agreement with the uk is to extend the chants and limits of the negotiation. one point i mentioned in my speech is during one of my meetings in the past five days, i listened to someone saying there is not value to the brexit.
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>> i had a meeting. he was not able to give me proof that there is no benefit of brexit. when i met him - i lost patience by the end of the meeting. he tried to explain to me and i asked him, can you tell me you want brexit , how do you see the future between eu and uk?
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>> eu would no longer exist. we would no longer exist. i'm not trying to give this to him. >> i think we have time for one more question. >> depends on the answers. >> this is true. you in the middle. >> good morning. you mentioned earlier a deeper cooperation with nato. there are a couple of countries in the eu that are not members of nato. countries where right ring populace parties use the maintenance of neutrality to great effect. you particularly hear of the freedom ready and off for a. how do you square
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the to between deeper nato operation and presenting movements -- preventing movements from becoming anti-eu? >> we have to to resign -- respect the position of neutrality. seemed interesting to me is what we are doing for stronger policies. is a global context and the country as part of the european policy.
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>> europe and france have a difference. 24 countries, as i mentioned. -- long time that what we were doing will have strength with different policies and if abilities. pulling our research and investments has a global use for defense. >> last question. >> thank you very much.
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i appreciated your comments leading me to ask about david davis. it was reported in the media you only have three meetings of a total of four hours during the first half of the year. it would be interesting to hear your comments on the meetings. >> don't want to comment. these were meetings of negotiations. to be clear, for a long time - we were together in 1915 -- 19 59 - i know your prime minister
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quite well. i don't want to comment. but i have always had cordial relations, but i don't comment about how the litigation is organized. it is the responsibility of them to appoint the british negotiator. they are competent and very respected. last question. >> welcome to washington. i am from the globe post. do you think that you would consider partnering with the u.s. on a european defense?
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>> it is an ongoing discussion in the eu. my answer is yes, but respecting the set countries for the initiative. i think there is a place in the uk, but i respect the decision. >> please join me in thanking him for the wonderful discussion. it's been very interesting and i think you have a lot of work
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ahead of you. i think you will have a little time sunday. thank you very much. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2018]
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