from national council of american indians. and later, syndicated columnist mona ♪ good morning. nearly one week after his putin, in finland with the editorial pages today are assessing america's role in the world. in one analysis piece on the front page of the l.a. times, this is the headline. weakenedtack fewtionship but europe has options." we want to get your assessment. how are we doing? doing with its

relationship with the world. phone lines are open. (202) 748-8000, democrats. (202) 748-8001, republicans. if you are independent, (202) 748-8002. send us a tweet and we will read it or join us online on our facebook page. good sunday morning. take you for joining us. this is the cover story of the weekly standard. "disgrace in helsinki." the meetingth after in helsinki. from the l.a. times, trump attacks weakened the relationship. the reporting reads as follows.

host: again, that was an analysis piece from the l.a. times. more reaction to the president's foreign-policy. he is meeting this month in europe, the summit in brussels.

in helsinki,eting finland. here is senator marco rubio this past week. >> what the president said today isn't accurate. the intelligence community has assembled an unparalleled amount of evidence in regards to in 2016 but the ongoing efforts to interfere in society. these efforts are being undertaken in areas of the affectedd many areas by that are represented here today. on they going to comment press conference as none of us were in the meeting and we don't know what was addressed. that can speculate is there was an effort underway to figure out if being nice to putin whether there is a way we can establish a better working relationship which, in a perfect world wouldn't be a bad english

than two nations that possess 90% of the world's nuclear weapons. the flaw of that which gets to the heart of the issue is that putin isn't interested in a better working relationship with united states because he views the world and geopolitics as a battle between the strong and the week. he believes that the end of the cold war, they took advantage of a week russia. -- and he doesn't believe in win-win scenarios and he thinks the limit to make russia stronger is to make america weaker and the election interference efforts are part of it. and rhetoric that isn't built on that reality is destined to be counterproductive and dangerous and will certainly fail. again, i think that is really clear. this isn't partisan interference. it is an effort to have happened

what has happened. years after the election, still has this issue dominate and divide us. this was the primary objective of putin. to put instability into american culture so that we are so busy fighting each other, we don't have time to take him on as a threat. host: from the hill newspaper, this is the headline. alexander bolton wrote the following.

host: that was from the hill newspaper. overall, the foreign policy with regards to nato and allies in europe and asia -- we go to jeffrey from north carolina. good morning. what a fantastic show c-span has put out, information to help everyone be informed. the marco rubio statement was accurate and on point. my main concern following and ,istening to the publication in positionseople like c-span, who have been taken stage as howworld donald trump could have said to this dictator that the

intelligence information that was documented, it was given to him before he got on air force one and went there and didn't denounce or speak up to address everyin the way that possible information he received was accurate. and then come back one day later and say what anyone heard, he what he didn't say, he didn't mean and it is confusing so many people and it is discrediting the integrity of the united states, what we stand for, as far as the intelligence and the media. all the outlets that claim fake news. it is confusing as an american and knowing that what you are addressing this morning with marco rubio, why is and how can it still be in the united states that he is not held accountable

on the highest level? because they are destroying everything where people are concerned today, in the united states. host: thank you for that call from north carolina. here is the headline from politico. dan coats set the awkward response to the trump summit wasn't meant to be disrespectful. he made those comments saturday after fierce criticism from within the of illustration. here is what happened on thursday at the institute for security forum in which they broke the news that there would be another summit with putin at the white house this fall. >> breaking news. the white house has announced on twitter that putin is coming to the white house in the fall. [laughter] >> did i hear you? ok. [laughter]

>> that will be special. host: dan coats is a former senator from indiana said that the response was not meant to be disrespectful or criticize the actions of the president. some tweets. host: send us a tweet. on the republican line in fort lauderdale. howard, good morning.

thank you for waiting. know, we have to understand something here. ,efore trump became president before trump was elected, there stuffen a lot of this going on with other elections, this has always happened and it is never going to stop. russia is in the reason why trump got elected. russia didn't hack the dnc. -- is the one with the thumb drive that gave it to wikileaks over this. now, the democratic party uses that as evidence proven that trump had collusion with russia. until we get to the bottom of the corruption that is already happened before trump ever got in office, we are never going to find the truth. and until that happens, we live in the world of dumbness. is nomocratic party

longer living, ok? they are the top tiers of that swamp. host: thank you for that call. this headline from the washington post. good morning, cliff. caller: listening to this, i am 60 years old and i've never seen american politics like this before in my life. i pride myself on being an independent. theuse when you are in middle you can see both sides better. i think. and i'm not really a donald trump supporter. but i couldn't be a hillary supporter by any means. -- i have to say, the way

that trump has been treated by the media in this country is absolutely appalling. it is disgusting. media ine left-wing this country is more of a threat to the country than vladimir putin will ever be. host: thank you for the call. this headline from the new york post in an opinion piece that says -- the president wasting no time bouncing back from the russia meddling comments. more from michael goodwin in a moment. patrick joins us now. welcome to the program. caller: i just wanted to say that i think we are making a

mockery and a joke out of our social institutions herein united states. whether trumptant or putin gets together here in the united states. we are taking attention away from what is really going on. and the united states and in america and that is my opinion. host: thank you. saying, if obama had kissed up to kim jong-un, you would be screaming what he murder. this is a piece from the hill newspaper. it reads as follows.

host: that is from the weekly standard. back to your phone calls. bob is up next. good morning. you are on the air. kolko good morning. i have a quick comment on some of your republican viewers. they are amazing. because they have been so putin'sed by propaganda. about hillary clinton and the thing she has done. it is amazing. he does most of it isn't true. but you can't convince them that their views are insane. that willy thing change the politics in our country is if the freedom caucus comes out and states the truth. instead of -- you know, keeping their line going. for the soul purpose of remaining in power. and that is the whole motivation

for the republican party. they don't care about the country. and that is and being a patriot. that is being a republican. that is what i have to say. host: from the op-ed page of the washington post. david bond rally rights. you could read that online. next we have anthony joining us from las vegas on the democrat line. caller: good morning. do you believe in freedom of the press? host: absolutely. we have julian assange locked up in the ecuadorian embassy. trump could be a hero to the

left if he was to pardon him and get the truth about the russian narrative. it is i don't think it has been pretrade the right way. in the mainstream news. whodid have one caller called in before me who was on point. julian assange offered a $20,000 reward for information leading to the murder of said bridge. that is being kept off the television and you don't hear people talk about that very much. but something interesting happened within the last week. jack bergman, the republican lobbyist who has been looking personis murder has a who is willing to testify. that rod rosenstein is directly connected to the murder. host: and your source? because this story has been

widely disputed. caller: not true. i have been keeping up with the story. host: but your source? caller: well, the video is on you to. jack bergman date a press conference about a week ago. and he has this witness in protective custody. fearing for his life as a member of the intelligence community. host: we go to caitlin now from st. louis, missouri. you are next. caller: d.l. it is embarrassing to me? we can't even trust the fbi or cia. these are the people that are supposed to be protecting us. but they are as crooked as hillary is. host: our question is assessing the president's foreign policy. a week after the meeting in

finland. our phone lines are open at (202) 748-8000. the line for democrats. (202) 748-8001, republicans. this past week in helsinki, the russian president with asked whether he had information on trump. here the exchange. the idea that we allegedly collected material on trump when he visited moscow -- let me tell you this. was in moscow, i didn't even know that he was in moscow. i treat them with the utmost respect. when he was a private individual, a businessman, no one informed me that he was in moscow. i don't remember the names of

every single one of them. do you remember each and every -- please, disregard this. think about this again. >> if anybody watched peter struck testify over the last couple of days -- i was in brussels watching it -- it was a disgrace to the fbi and our country. thank you. host: how this became trump's walk back week. the saying the president waited no time before housing back.

host: that was from the new york post. to the republican line. kolko good morning. how are you? i know that this is about trump and the helsinki meeting. policy isumps foreign a big one because things have gotten far out of hand. this is destroying sovereignty. and i think the whole thing with -- i watchstates is c-span more than anything else. and i use independent alternative investigation.

you are kind of in a tunnel. the over patriotic type news instead of real journalism. of really investigating the issues. and you need to find resources from multiple sources. you can't just watch one channel. so i do believe it is very important to stay in a civil debate with another world power other than pushing war or embarrassment or a hostile position. nuclear weapons are at the center of so many things. they are laughing at the administration watch. the onesey, they are who told everybody that.

that america could never be hacked. and that trump is out of his mind. trump said his phone was tapped. and his people were being spied on. host: in response to the earlier caller from las vegas, this is from kevin. saying that the source is "alex jones." of thee outlook section washington post. this call is jerome on the democrat line. go ahead. it is sad because every apublican who called in selling the soul to the devil because they are accepting trump running the country off the

cliff. he sits here and sells the country to russian dictators and pushing allies away but says he is making the country safer. way is he making the country safer. he turns us against each other and he turns us against our allies. that is my comment. host: from our facebook page. more comments. host: david joins us from michigan on the democrat line. good morning. thank you very much c-span for taking my call.

i call the president putin's puppet in chief. it was a disaster. the helsinki was a total embarrassment for the usa and i wish the deplorables would see that and come down to earth and come down to reality. i have one important thing to say. i hope that trump knows what it -- s like to get host: are you on the air? follows the meeting earlier this summer with kim jong-un and the reporting by a team of reporters led by john hudson at the washington post.

host: next call is sandra joining us from michigan on the democrats line. howdy do you assess the foreign policy? well, i saw a news clip of trump from 2015.

host: and your point is? and he said he adjust met with putin. and you can see the smiles between them. you can see the connection. i don't understand why republicans believe this man. there is all kinds of -- i'm 2006, hes hotel from was caught laundering russian money. selling cocaine. hosting the russian mafia. court thiss to go to wednesday for money laundering and he lived at trump tower. he was trump's campaign manager. there was money laundering in the trump hotel.

i wish they would wake up and see. what is it you have to do? it is so frustrating for people who know who he is and what he has and they ignore him. host: this piece on the front page of the l.a. times. "trump attacks weakened the relationship but europe has for you -- europe has few alternatives ar." say, --and was going to the whole world will see what is going on. they are possessed. host: thank you for the call. more from the facebook page.

host: next call is daniel calling from florida. welcome to the conversation. caller: good morning steve and america. was overtime i called 30 days ago. a subsequent caller reprimanded me for having called on the democrat line when clearly it wasn't a democrat. which is my business. so i'm using the independent line. but quickly, these people who call in about the murder of seth right? with all the money being spent by mueller, why doesn't he find out who killed him? .oes it is perfectly obvious he even said as much when he was the dnc chair, whoever had the information not pertain to bernie sanders with the conspiracy against his primary race. he will be killed.

that is what happened. and nobody wants a talk about it. take you so much for taking the time to listen to me. i'm very appreciative. host: billionaires losses is the cover story. a look at george soros. enemies paint him as all-powerful but sources believe that his effort to spread liberal democracy has never been in greater peril. michael steinberg has the cover of the new york times. we take a short week and will become back, we turn our attention to alaska as we make our first trip back to the state in more than two decades. it is alaska weekend here and we each are public policy programming from our recent visit to the front to your state. coming up on the council on foreign relations, amy myers about thes us to talk trump administration energy policy and alaska's last is world to produce energy. ta joinsacqueline pa

us. we recently spoke to alaska congressman don young. you can watch the full interview at 9:30 p.m. eastern and in this portion he discusses the issues facing his state. congressman: the biggest problem is government overreach. alaska national land act, it was a big move. i was very involved. we set thousands of acres aside it was never meant to be that way. state, congress agreed to the idea that we would get 103 million acres of state owned land for socioeconomic well-being. and that happened but we always thought we would have access to the federal land which was

blm lands. then the national land act came by with jimmy carter and they set aside 87 million acres of parks and 87 million acres of refuge land which is preserved. about half the state was set for those purposes. particularly picking land that interceded. the state isn't one body of land. 6 million acres here, 10 million acres there. and we picked land around the state frankly for the value. and we thought we would have access to and be able to and theyfrom a to b always pick the land between a and that would be their land so we couldn't use it. so we have lost a lot of state rights and it is the biggest challenge to make people understand that we do have a

right and we do have accessible rights. we have a right to utilize our land. told what not to do by the federal government. federal government overreach is the biggest challenge. a lot of that is personnel. i have argued that parks -- one of my biggest pet peeves is that the very few alaskans use the parks because they are not allowed to. they are used for tourists. and i think it is incorrect. andwant to be parks partners. partner with the people of alaska in the parks. and we set aside land in the state. huge -- to give is the largestis park in the united states. 33,000 people visited last year. that is the washington monument in one week. the only people really using the

federal lands are federal employees. and it is unfortunate because i think it has caused a lot of hostility. and again, it has been a lot of personnel. think he is doing a good job. we have put people in there now and we will see what happens in the long run. to there is it ok for people live in the bubble. "washington journal" continues. host: it is a alaska weekend. if you watch c-span comments c-span 2 and c-span 3, you can see our trip to alaska. is amy us from new york myers jaffe, a senior fellow. her expertise is energy and the environment. thank you for being with us as part of this weekend special. you for having me. host: let me begin by broadly assessing alaska's role in

energy with regards to the rest of the country? alaska unfortunately has been playing a declining role in terms of energy production in the united states. at one point they provided 2 million barrels a day of oil for use in the united states. to .5w they're down million barrels a day. new production can come online, it looks like they have a pretty small contribution compared to texas and pennsylvania and other places where we see this giant upsurge. host: why is that? guest: a number of reasons. number one, it is a very expensive place to drill for oil and gas. when prices came down in 2014, became a lessit attractive place to drill.

shell was up there and they had difficulty and they didn't find as much oil as they thought and they had minor accidents with a towing ship so it is a hard domain. some of the melting of the tundra makes it actually harder now to operate in alaska. -- the problem has been worsening and some of the physical problems in the state that require communities to be relocated are adding to the pressure. host: do you have a sense of how much energy is in the ground or adjacent? guest: the resources are very large. refuge,alaska wildlife and allows a small portion of the surface to be considered for exploration. -- billion barrels

and they have several billion barrels in the beaufort sea. but those resources are very hard to access. they have extended their activities on the north slope and some areas are very active and they are expecting and the coming years that they might be able to produce an additional 300,000 barrels a day. it really they're pretty much the only major oil company still active today in alaska. host: i want to share with you that this is from the international energy agency which keeps track of oil production across the u.s.. by 2000 23, the u.s. will be the world's largest oil producer. guest: there is no question. sadly, it isn't because things are going well in alaska with the production that we get on

shore from the shale revolution evenxas, oklahoma, pennsylvania and ohio. we are going to see a huge increase in production in this and may be another couple million barrels a day over the next few years. and indeed, the same projections netus as becoming exporters. so we probably still will export oil in some areas. new england will probably import heating oil and we have some oil that needs to come to the gulf coast of a certain quality for a number of those refineries. going toy, we are probably -- if things stay the u.s.e -- we will be called energy independent in the sense that we will be able to produce and export more oil than we use. host: what change from more than 40 years when president jimmy carter early in his

administration war the cardigan sweater and told americans -- he compared the energy crisis to the moral equivalent of war? guest: a lot of times people talk about the egg boom we are having in production and it is helping. but the fact that your automobile gets better miles per gallon is also a big pivotal point of that. having just found this new way of producing oil in texas, we would still probably be in more of the jimmy carter situation. it is really because our cars get better gasoline mileage and we have the corporate efficiency standards. that holds demand for gasoline. although in recent years it has held it flat. and this year is a bit higher. the good of the economy is doing so well which is a good thing.

and ultimately, because our cars will improve and be better with technology over time, gas production is probably going to call -- probably going to fall. at the same time, we will have an increase in production. a day -- 3arrels million barrels a day from texas. host: this map takes a look at the lower 48. you can see in south texas and along the louisiana coast and moving to the dakotas into north dakota, some of the heavy oil and gas production is intensifying across the u.s.. wefocus on energy issues as look at alaska. we sat down with members of the alaska congressional democrats and -- congressional delegation. andou look at the footprint how we have reduced the footprint. so many times over. people can't even believe that

-- is this all you are talking about? is this all you work off of? it is hosting this level of activity. and the reason they're able to do it is because of the changes in technology that have come about. in the past four decades. that could dive down area up tout in the eight miles in radius now -- that is what the technology is delivering to us. of that interview through the course of this weekend through c-span as we focus on alaska issues. amy myers jaffe. again, this goes back to what the earlier point as where we are today. compared to where we were 45 years ago. guest: you have to hand it to

american ingenuity. years ago in the late 90's there was a pioneer in the emily -- in the energy path of george mitchell. george mitchell was convinced that we could produce the rocksles of oil stuck in under the ground -- so instead of looking for a reservoir, think of it being a pond of oil under the ground. george mitchell believed these tiny particles that were stuck in the actual rocks where oil andgas was all over texas oklahoma and so forth, that it could be produced. and he worked diligently for years, trying to figure out how. and his company finally cracked the puzzle. we have a lot of egg players now, especially in the permian basin in texas. and pretty much many other parts of the country, where they are able to use the combination of horizontal drilling and

fracturing techniques where they spray a lot of water along a very long lateral pipeline. and we are actually able to -- extendingrom , horizontally. and recovering a lot of oil and natural gas. we will have a huge surplus in the united states as well. host: we focus on alaska. and we have a line set aside for those of you live there. (202) 748-8002. otherwise, phone lines are now divided regionally. you mentioned shale gas. what is that? isst: basically, shale gas displaced. so it is a geologic formation under the ground, it isn't a

rock per se but we could think rock.as that as a solid and when water and sand are shot , tiny crevices allowed the natural gas to be produced, or oil, if there is oil there. and we have so much natural gas now in places like north dakota and texas that we actually have two clear some of it because we haven't yet been able to create a market for it. companies are working on putting together a facility needed to export it by ship. and the united states will someday be a larger exporter of natural gas than countries in the middle east and maybe even russia someday. and we're getting there progressively quickly. but to get all of the facilities and all of the permits and everything required is taking some time. host: how much oil do we import from saudi arabia and the mideast? i would say that now it

is pretty small. use 20 million barrels a day and maybe we take one million or 1.5 million barrels from the middle east so it has become a very small piece of the import picture. one of the things that has changed in the last year or two .s the crisis in venezuela the human's hearing crisis and the crisis in the oil industry. we used to get a lot of oil from venezuela but that is no longer the case. so that has created a bit of an opening as we continue to get a high amount of oil from venezuela -- sorry, a high amount of oil from the middle east. ultimately, some of the refineries in the u.s. gulf built specifically to run oil from saudi arabia. company, arabia's oil aramco, is owning some facilities in the united states. so there is a certain amount of

oil we probably will always get from saudi arabia even when u.s. production is very high. amy myersguest is jaffe. she is a senior fellow joining us from new york. she served as senior editor for the petroleum -- weekly. and while we travel to alaska, we met up with the executive director of the alaska conservation association about conservation, energy issues, here's a portion of that conversation. value alaska's resources on the ground and onshore, we have a way for business people to get economic benefit and value that is just theirs, that they own. along with the ability to provide for culture and assistance. it is really critical that we at aft to communities and get a price on carbon.

without a price, it becomes extremely difficult for oil companies to forecast and for businesses to plan, for any deals to take place at any level. energy companies say that they need to diversify the future. they are telling this to us first and foremost because we cannot depend upon them and we know that. we do have quick facts on alaska. it became a state in 1959 during the final year of the eisenhower administration. a population of nearly 740,000 residents. the median income is nearly $76,000 per year. what did you hear in that brief exchange with michael barber? guest: you know, i bring the what is happening on the ground, commercially. so some companies that have alaska -- that have operated in

alaska have had problems. which has had problems make it less of an attractive player. shell had problems when they tried to drill. environment tot drill. even with the new technology and improvements, it is still very expensive. -- there is some question especially because regardless of whether the united states has a one,n price, carbon has europe has a carbon price. california has a carbon price. so the outlook for very expensive oil is a little bit more uncertain. so companies are reluctant to commit billions of dollars to production that won't be available for decades. even with congress opening that up for the possibility of

interior says it takes them a year to get all of the environmental passes and it all done, even if goes well and they open for areoration, the estimates that it would be maybe by 2031 that he would have the first oil production from that area of alaska. so it is very difficult and challenging to bring these products on. they are very expensive. and companies can frankly make more money, more quickly, drilling for oil with the new methods in places like the permian basin in texas and other places. and companies are still doing well in the u.s. gulf of mexico. so there is less interest in alaska. and frankly, my concern is that when we are all said and done,

no matter how much of alaska makes it attractive for companies to drill there, you wind up finding smaller players who maybe are not is equipped to if godth the problems for bid, there should be an accident. we all watched with horror what happened when ep had the accident. but they had the financial problem, payix the compensation. so in alaska, the question is, if you are with a smaller a companyhere is named phil's soft that operates in alaska today that has a small accident. but if a company like that had a large accident, they don't have the balance sheet of a next on mobile. so that is really a challenge in thinking about how to exploit and get the benefits of the oil and gas left under the ground.

host: let me share with you a couple of tweets. guest: you know, there is always a trade-off. i think companies have tried to lower the footprint when they drill in places like alaska. but in the end, it is a process. decisions. to make the state of alaska has to make decisions about the trade-off between economic benefits of oil and gas development and other parts of things we enjoy in terms of the ecology of the state and meeting the challenges of local people. so it is a very difficult thing for alaska in terms of the future. the way the country is set up, the way the budget is set up in alaska today, they still give

each citizen $1000 for their share in oil and gas production. i think at some point that will become more difficult to policy. that because the state has -- you know, tremendous budgetary problems. and there are isolated communities that will become greater over time because of the changing climate in the arctic. host: these two tweets. your comments? tesco we have a global market. the oils that matches

our system. the united states has been exporting a tremendous amount of products. diesel fuel. we sent a lot of diesel fuel to latin america. so the united states is an active player in the global market. and sometimes it is more tofitable to shift product latin america and then have new england byproduct because of the logistical constraints on the pipelines. have a law in the united states that oil that would be moved by ship from one part of the united states to another has to use a boat that is a -- muscle that has american workers. and that raises the cost.

so sometimes it is cheaper to import. some of the oil from other countries and that is just because of logistics with such a large country. host: good morning. go ahead, you are on the air. thank you. it is getting a little areculous how the democrats always talking about the president. i myself am a republican. i used to be a democrat. the country was only $10 trillion in that when obama took over. so when you put an idiot like that in office, it eight years later, $20 trillion.

and then you have people like -- y maxine waters host: we are focusing on energy issues. if you have a question that we will keep you on the air but otherwise we will move on. are you with us? we do want to paul from pennsylvania. unless you want to respond to the comments? guest: i would say that the energy policy under president obama was actually pretty friendly to drilling and or ask a. and part of alaska's problem is the reason why laska has had difficulty is not related to federal policy. trump has tried to make alaska a priority in terms of escorts -- in terms of exports but another problem that alaska has is that it has a proposed liquefied natural gas project hoping to

get support from china and chinese countries. theywith the trade war, have an increasing cost of steel and maybe now china will remit .n its commitments so it has been difficult even with the support of alaska on the white house with things like federal leasing and the opening of and more. it still wasn't a free ticket that oil and gas is going to recover. they still have a lot of problems. paul from pennsylvania. caller: lennar the new energy supplies going to translate into lower domestic energy cost? living standards of the people here?

maybe it would involve less war and less involvement in the middle east problems? it seems like we could do a lot here to help us. the line. on we have a tweet here. what is the price in pennsylvania in your neck of the woods? $3.10-$3.15. we have a pretty high price year relative to other states. ohio. i thought that $3.25 on the way into the studio in new york city, so we are all suffering at the pump. part of it is indeed the conflicts in the middle east,

whether in yemen or syria. iranian-back rebels in yemen bombing saudi arabia, raising the speculative worry in the market. -- wanted saudi arabia to put more oil on the market, causing the price to come down a bit. more19, i think you'll see u.s. production, and i think that will help bring prices down again. aren't the reason we getting the full benefit of natural gas, natural gas prices are going to be increasingly low. and we are pumping -- burning ino the sky over 1 -- natural texas, the equivalent of the whole demand of new england. part of it is just constraints. do we have the pipeline capacity

to move the gas around, the terminals to export it? some of it has to do with how much supply is there, but a lot of it has to do with social acceptance. there new england states, is not social acceptance to have additional natural gas pipelines. that is part of the reason people aren't getting the same relief on their electricity prices. in other parts of the country, the west, the southwest, the extra natural gas is absolutely helping to keep prices down in other parts of the country. it is really very geographic and has to do with how americans feel about energy infrastructure. the supply is actually there. we have problems because we are unable to build enough pipelines to the places where electricity prices are high. again, it is a trade-off. betweenways a trade-off

the environmental impact of having access to energy or whether or not we want to have low prices. over time, as the prices for renewable energy have come down, that is helping for places where they are more environmentally concerned. where energy is playing a bigger role and will eventually help keep electricity prices low. but we still have a long way to go, not so much in the supply. ourink we will probably see supply start to help the market as the supply goes up, but we still have to worry about the middle east. if something goes wrong in the conflict with iran and an oil facility gets attack, you know iraq is a mob in southern that tried to storm oil fields, unhappy about what is happening in that country.

unrest in iran, the war between yemen and saudi arabia. oilof those things threaten supplies. that brings up the international market, which affects oil prices in the united states. host: if you are an alaskan resident, how much and when do you receive a rebate for the profits of oil and gas produced in the united states? has somethingska called the permanent fund. all of alaskans get the dividend the month oflly in october. in past years, the dividend has been above $2000 per person in alaska. this year, the budget has been cut. most alaskans are only can $1022 this year, as their share in the oil profit. again, there's

this whole question of whether alaskans will be able to continue to afford to get their annual payout from the permanent fund, or whether it needs to be used for other things like closing the budget hole. that was even a proposal, the permanent fund, it is about $65 billion. natural gasaskan export project is going to cost $43 billion. there's been some political discussion about whether or not to take the permanent fund and invest that to export natural gas. theonally, as an expert on global natural gas market, i think that would be a mistake. it is quite a competitive market now. not only do you have competition , whotexas and louisiana are planning massive exports, but projects around the world in australia and africa and elsewhere. there's a lot of natural gas available globally. i think alaska is going to need

its revenue, just to support its citizens. host: of follow-up on the price of a gallon of gasoline. tj says this tweet, $2.60 per gallon here. michael with the follow-up, let's not forget that state taxes affect the prices of gasoline. patrick from lady lake, florida. caller: thank you for taking my call. as usual, c-span doesn't talk anything about drilling off the state of florida. we've got plenty of oil. of course, what you are just burningabout with texas off natural gas, california, texas, and florida are the three largest car markets in the u.s.. if we can convert 20% of those ,ars into burning natural gas i'm just wondering what that

would have to do on a reliance on foreign oil. as other thing, that you usual forget on c-span, the front page of the wall street journal says public energy spent $300 million on that horizontal drilling, and then turned it over to corporate america for a big tax cut. ask for taking my call. host: thank you for adding your voice to the table. interestingck, very point. there's no question that a lot of natural gas -- it is probably not as popular to put natural gas in automobiles, but there's new technologies developed so we can put natural gas in trucks. the governor of oklahoma thought that was such a good idea at she had a statewide initiative to get allstate vehicles on to natural gas as a fuel.

she got a break from car to cares, gave a subsidy companies to put more natural gas stations in oklahoma. i'm surprised texas hasn't done the same thing. california has actually been promoting natural gas in trucks. because it helps with the air pollution issue in california because there is such a big agricultural industry. there's the possibility of taking landfill gas and bio waste gas and emerging that with regular natural gas to make a cleaner fuel. is something that different administrations have looked at on a federal basis. i've studied it as part of a study for the state of california, a very viable way of reducing the amount of oil we use. it will contribute to lowering air pollution.

definitely something that will be looked at. know, on -- on our federal always been has hard on energy to have a coherent policy, because you have state estate differences -- state by state differences. different governors have objected to drilling offshore in florida. the state has a big tourism industry and is worried about what drilling might mean for that industry. california's big debate is about -- is going in the opposite direction. there's groups of people on the progressive left who would want to see california not only stop oil and gas exploration, but see the oil fields in california turned off because of the

contribution of oil to the burning of fossil fuels, to greenhouse gas emissions. very controversial, different parts of the country. not everybody considers gasoline prices the ultimate decider when the factor we think is most important in making energy policy. for those of you who go down into the weeds with me on energy policy, the white house has had a terrible time in the last few months trying to rationalize our policy for using ethanol and biofuels mixed in with our gasoline. the solution to that is nowhere in sight as to how to rationalize the system we have now, which has caused volatility in prices in different parts of the country. host: we welcome our listeners on c-span radio and on sirius xm

. this weekend is alaska weekend on c-span, part of our 50 stator. years, first time in 22 the bus making its way to alaska. hawaii is next. the bus will be placed on a barge to travel to hawaii next month, and we will focus on our 50th state. is the ceo of the alaska gas and oil association. behind her, you will see part of the conversation about energy issues in alaska. alaska oil and gas industry fuels alaska's economy. about one third of the jobs in the state of alaska can be attributed to the industry, as well as 35% of the private payroll can be attributed back to the oil and gas industry. we are by far the state's largest source of government revenue and have been that since

the production at trudeau bay 40 one years ago. right now, our production in alaska is 530,000 barrels per day, about 5% of the u.s. production. the good news for alaska is we have a lot of potential remaining. if you include both our onshore and offshore resources, over one third of the nation's reserves are here in the state. host: we want to hear from you. if you hear -- if you live in alaska, we realize it is early in the morning. but the phone number to call is (202) 748-8002. for alaska residents, (202) 748-8002. let's go to kurt joining us from brownsville, new jersey. thank you very much. this is a very complex issue for me. i would love to have cheap energy.

i don't make a lot of money. but i would have to turn towards ,he impacts of the middle east taking money away from them. believe, would ruin the environment. one mother nature episode of a broken pipeline would destroy the industry. are you preparing for any of these catastrophes, and other parts of the world suffering from our disasters? host: thank you for the call. from the council on foreign relations, your response? is an industrial process. there are accidents and environmental impacts. over time, we are going to see more parts of the country favor renewable energy. that is becoming more enabled because the costs

of producing wind and solar energy has come down but also because increasingly, the costs of battery technology is falling. the same kind of battery you would see in an electric car can and used to support the use of renewable energy, so you don't have to worry about the wind not blowing for a few minutes. can be stored in the battery and redeployed. someday, i imagine more people in america will have something in their home, maybe the size of a washing machine. businesses course -- , of course, will have something larger. you don't need electricity anymore, and you have this battery that will let us use more renewable energy, which means we will be less connected to the middle east and the problems there for our energy

cost and producing more energy at home. time, it willer be better as these technologies come down and as the software to control those technologies improves. we will probably be able to have cheaper, more reliable electricity with a higher dependence on renewable energy. but it is a transition that takes time -- it takes time for the technologies to be designed and deployed. in the meantime, we have what we have. the biggest challenge is we have 350 million liquid-fuel cars in the united states and they can't run on anything other than oil. that leaves us all dependent on what is happening in the global market. you have to think of oil like a swimming pool. of one end water out of the pool, it affects the whole pool. if you pour water into it, it

affects the whole thing. it is a global price. we suffer when there a lot of conflict in the middle east. thatt is not clear to me our policies towards iran, or even russia, are successfully war in thee risk of middle east. therefore, we are subject to these possible spikes in oil prices. it is just a very tricky problem which we faced on and on -- off and on for decades. view, is not in my only to use more domestically produced energy, but to move to technologies that are less oil dependent. so the less oil we have in our economy, the less it gets affected when the price of oil

goes up. we are already seeing we don't use oil anymore in this country to speake electricity, of. and our industry is moving away feedstock.oil for we use a lot of natural gas now for petrochemicals. we are gaining on it, in much better shape than in the 1970's, but still in all, it is really our passenger vehicle. our achilles' heel when it comes depending on the global price for oil. note you were talking about earlier, supplies. this is a headline from reuters with regard to the supply of natural gas. executives in that industry see one century of supply, and the coming decades giving washington the tools to counter the geopolitical influence of other exporters as natural gas production into the u.s.

continues to increase. on can read more details their website. another call from pennsylvania. good morning, thank you. i understand with the bush u.s. enteredn, the into a protective or defensive agreement with saudi arabia, to protect them from the other arab nations. exchange, we protect the oil reserves for saudi arabia and build up their oil industry. to my knowledge, that continues to this day. in light of that, i think our dependence on middle eastern oil tigerre akin to pulling a by the tail. who would get the oil if saudi arabia was abandoned by the u.s. or if our ties were weakened? we are not yet dependent on foreign oil.

number 2, through the state of pennsylvania, efforts to build pipelines to export natural gas doesn't give any benefit to citizens. i don't understand how the industry works that way with government. areichigan, the great lakes immediately at risk for an oil spill from a canadian company. there are a couple of oil transmission lines -- that are proven by underwater photography to be rotting. just,things are all -- the environmental risk is admitted. wet: am going to jump in, only have about one minute left. you put some important issues on the table. guest: he did put some important issues on the table. provides 10abia

million barrels per day to the global markets, which is about 10%. it is an important supplier. i fear that if the united states in helping with the security of that country, that there really isn't anybody else to take that role. china doesn't have a navy. the capability that we do to keep the oil flowing from the middle east. we are, unfortunately, stuck with that sort of responsibility. .nd it is a global issue not just whether oil comes into the united states for not. if there is free flow of oil from the middle east, it affects europe, japan, china. when there is a global recession, that is bad for the u.s. economy. we are a little bit stuck in that role. , over time, as the global economy itself moves more

away from oil and the transportation sector, we will see some improvement in volatility, and may be saudi arabia will be less important to the global economy. but right now, saudi arabia is one of the key players that increases its -- to bring prices back down. so we are kind of stuck in that relationship for the for siebel future, from an oil perspective. ,- for the foreseeable future from an oil perspective. as for the natural gas pipelines, it's a double-edged sword. the more energy we have flowing by pipelines -- it is probably safer than when we move oil and ship. truck or but, like many things, some of our infrastructure in this country is very old. needs to be improved.

that is the role of the , that if the -- and environmental protection agency don't do their jobs, it puts us at risk. host: we have been speaking with amy myers jaffe, and joining us before we let you go, what is your favorite spot in alaska? park. the -- national i spent the summer there, studying their sustainability, problemst florida -- with energy sustainability. we had a wonderful summer. to reward the students for working hard, you can find their reports online under the title "sustainable alaska." we all picked a friday and sunday and

all went white water rafting in denali national park, one of my more enjoyable experiences. beautiful country up there. i wish them well, because it is a great part of this country. we appreciate you adding your voice to the conversation. thank you. we continue our alaska week. our c-span bus was up there last week. next up is hawaii. joining us at the table is jacqueline pata, the head of the natural -- of the national congress of american indians. wethe top of the next hour, turn our attention to syndicated columnist, mona charen, and her ."ok, "sex matters tv, americanbook history tv, including our focus on alaska's seafood industry and

the impact it has on the state today. the seafood industry in alaska is about a $5 billion industry. nationwide, it is closer to 12 billion or 13 alien. if you follow the alaska seafood resource from its in-state processing through to distribution to wholesalers, retailers, right to the kitchen counter and restaurant, it is a $13 million industry, a huge economic footprint. in alaska, i know it is a $5 billion industry, with value added from when the fisherman , his the salmon on board , creatingys his crew its own set of multiplier impacts in small communities where there may not otherwise be much economic activity. the processor buys the fish and

process therkers to fish, pays property taxes and other taxes. the state government is having another set of economic multipliers across the state. taxes paid across the seafood industry are a critical part of funding that in the absence of that funding, they wouldn't have the resources to provide basic services and infrastructure to residents of these small communities. >> washington journal continues. host: as we continue our look at alaska, joining us is jacqueline , the executive director of the national congress of american indians. you prioritize the issues important to you, what are the top two or three? guest: protecting the sovereignty of tribal governments across the country, and making sure we are dealing with the well-being, social

issues, in particular, the environment star children grow up in. and get washington, what you need? workinge have good relationships. we continue to fight hard for resources, particularly the budget that goes to tribes. for example, they get health care funded at congress. we always struggle to make sure we get appropriate dollars for that. education, transportation. the list goes on. the leading issues seems to be poverty and a disproportionate death rate in your community. why is that question mark -- why is that? they areobably because largely rural and remote, access to health care is not available when you need it. and when you have higher poverty rates, pregnant women don't get early prenatal care, for example. , native infants

die at twice the rate. sure wethat is to make go with emergency services. for example, law enforcement officers in indian countries are just a sprinkling compared to the per capita basis of the rest of the country. , and you mentioned sids one of the things is the lack of information about it. placing a child on his or her back, no heavy blankets, making sure the crib is empty. is that information getting to the child? -- getting to the community? anst: i think there could be improvement in getting the information out, the education. make sure the house is warm enough that we feel comfortable taking the blanket off the baby. housing is a big problem in indian country.

there are multiple families living in one unit, sometimes not as warm as they can eat. -- as they can be. to conditionsds of people feeling uncomfortable about leaving the baby uncovered. host: twice as likely to live in poverty, a lower life expectancy, higher rates of tb, injuries, alcohol related death. have healthot insurance. fromhis is from the center american progress. american indians and alaska about 2% of make the u.s. population, are often overlooked for two reasons. their small sample size, they are often dropped from national reports and/or not included in analysis. second, american indian and native alaskan medical records and birth and death certificates are plagued by racial

misreporting and misclassification why? -- what wastly, the a historic problem? the state of virginia decided that at some point in our history, you could either be colored or white. you could not be native american. those types of political decisions. .lso places like navajo nation a person of the navajo nation was born and didn't have a birth certificate the same as everyone else would have gotten one at the hospital. there are those conditions there as well. i think that overall, native the rope, because of remoteness of records, things like fires create problems.

particularly health records. when the rest of the country is going with electronic records, is still getting the resources and software to put those records in place. of natives- nature seeking jobs, going back and forth, it is hard to keep track of them. host: what is your background? from haines, alaska. --t: the full interview is airing tonight at 9:30. among the issues we talked about, issues related to your community. here's a portion of that conversation. >> when i think of the many ways we can help, we here in congress can help those in our native

communities deal with, whether it is the impact of climate , to helping them develop infrastructure that will kind of , thatack against the tide is pretty tough and expensive. .ffering technical assistance loan guarantees, branch programs, scientific assistance, research data. there is a host of different ways we can help. host: the full interview airs tonight and on our website. jacqueline pata, executive director of the national congress of american indians, what are you hearing? guest: she is a champion for us. infrastructure, access to

telecom, schools. she's been a champion for for theal resources indian health care service and delivery systems. she clearly gets the issues, not just for alaska, for all american indians and alaska natives. guest: let me remind our audience that our phone lines are divided as follows. host: if you live in alaska,@, if you are a native american or .laskan --(202) 748-8002 -- what impact have casinos had on the community economically? guest: it has actually helped many communities. everybody thinks, there's a feeling that because tribes have casinos, they are rich. there are very few that actually do really well. the majority of the tribal

even,s pretty much break slightly over, sometimes just above the line. what they do is create jobs and an ability for people to get education in certain skill sets. those have become an economic backbone for the tribes that have them. once again, 573 tribes in america, probably just over 200 that have casinos. host: how did this come about, and when? 1970's, there was a political shift from having the paternalistic federal government kind of environment to self-determination. during the time of self-determination, the indian .aming regulatory act came out when a state allows gaming, for

the tribe to also be allowed. they have to do that with a relationship or contract with the state. states that don't allow gaming, tribes can't game there. joseph from north charleston, south carolina. caller: good morning, it is a pleasure to talk to. i didn't know whether to try to plug my comment to the alaska guest or two you. i'm deeply concerned about the environment. i'm an independent. has pretty much turned into a sewer, so i watched shows like c-span, a lot of documentaries, national geographic. i've seen a number of documentaries that would lead us to understand that rising sea levels have really affected native alaskans. the in you with to pick up and have had toinuit move.

i would like you to comment on that. steve, by the way, alaska is an underserved state and i work as a government contractor. if you want to start a business, you get incentives to open one in alaska. to that come to mind are bowhea d and -- i want to get back to the environmental issue, though. host: thank you. are absolutely right. for decades, they've been monitoring the rising sea levels, particularly in smaller communities on the c line -- on the sealine level. they've had to deal with plans and relocation. put have relocated and have their schools in another area, and have had to take both -- take boats over there.

it is a continuing issue. people say, why don't they just move somewhere else, to anchorage? but that is where their community is. their families are there. it is where they live and subsist. traditional lifestyles, their food is important to them. wanting to hold onto that and still be able to make sure they ,ive in a place that is safe and environmentally protected, too. host: this is from twitter, isn't the issue the same for any of the lower 48? the difference is the lower 48 usually have at least a highway system that they can commute by. in alaska, for example, you wait for the barge that will come to you in the spring or in the fall , or in the months you can come up you can get your heating oil.

and you plan through the year or through the winter. you rely upon small planes for emergency, and when the weather is bad, you might not be a larger hub with medical services. so things like telemedicine are absolutely important in alaska, and they have absolutely created some great models. they are leading in dental health -- mental health therapist that dental -- dental health therapists. as a native alaskan, we are in the middle of summer, how much daylight is there at this time of year? guest: when i went home at the end of june, and i go back pretty regularly, and i was in juneau, which is not anchorage in the north where you get the whole 24 hours, but it was still 2:00 in the morning, 3:00 in the morning, it was daylight, and

5:00 in the morning again. host: in the middle of winter? guest: i remember going home in the dust and coming home in the dusk. host: another color. -- another caller. caller: i went to oregon and had contacts with the sheriff that the chief of the indian reservation. he was telling me he had to put down riots by the "young bucks, as he called them. -- were just horrible to them. on theer did work for -- reservation, a genius creating things. there were people just being taken advantage of left and right by the federal government and the agencies that served the federal government. host: is he right? guest: he is right that there

was a history in the country that was very much along those lines. now i can't say that everybody felt that way. there were obviously people who felt very strongly about trying to provide for indian country and the people in indian country. that is why this, where we are now, the policies of self-determination, are so important. now, tribes are taking over contracting those federal resources. for example, over 200 tribes have compacted or contracted their health service, and they deliver much better than the federal government. i'm not saying the federal government can't for the tribes that do, but were tribes have taken over, they have experienced great innovation. chickasaw nation has a leading diabetes center, leading in the nation. many tribes have done those kinds of things, to address the

needs people have. host: archie is joining us from the missouri on the line for american indians. caller: thank you for accepting my call. i like to ask if there are any people in alaska that, as a tribe, are seeking federal recognition like the ones in north carolina, robinson county. or i'm from, i'm from that tribe. we are seeking federal recognition and have been doing so for a long time. guest: i am familiar with yours and a number of tribes seeking federal recognition, even in alaska. there are tribes -- this is a long process for tribes. there is an administrative process with the bureau of indian affairs. some tribes have had congressional help in getting recognized.

for example, the six tribes in virginia that recently got recognized. of the largest groups of people seeking recognition. accent host:ze the these are more political questions, but let me share. what do you think of president trump using the name "pocahontas" as a purge or senator elizabeth warren? made has came out and statements about this many times. guest: we would like to remind people, pocahontas was a real, living individual. a woman well respected by her tribe here in virginia, and we believe she should be recognized with respect. of course, we don't believe that any representations of native americans should be used in a degradation way. that says,er tweet

your position on the name "the washington redskins," the nfl football team? guest: our position is that the name needs to go. replace the name. that is our motto. we want to be able to work with the fans of the washington team. make sure it is a place we can rally together. across the country, we are seeing a swell of things happen. we are just able to have conversations in chicago with the cleveland indians and how they are dealing with their mascot issues. make changese ncaa about their positions. high schools across the country are making changes. we think it is a matter of time before people want to write fully respect the first americans. host: our guest is the executive director of the national congress of american indians, jacqueline pata.

we were in alaska 22 years ago. we went back this summer, and next will be hawaii. margaret is joining from florida. is joining from florida. nostalgia,s is some listening to the c-span program with alaska as its focus. my daughter lived in bethel, which i think is about 400 miles ,rom anchorage and fairbanks and 400 miles south of gnome. it is out on the tundra, a major regional city. they have a lot of infrastructure there, hospital, college, or kinds of things like that that help the region work. but they went up there, my daughter's husband, he wanted to fly. there was a place he thought he

could get a job, have some adventure. it didn't quite work out that way because he landed in a snow changed the whole course. they went to work doing real jobs for real people. my daughter worked for a radio station, and he worked for a newspaper. my daughter joined the military -- rejoined the service through the alaskan national guard. she had been in the air force. while she was away, her husband started this newspaper called the delta discovery. i don't know if it is still there, but they were successful with that. it was in their little town, but also had a circulation they created by delivering the newspaper and dropping it through the maildrops to the villages of the tundra. "real news for the real people," and that

targeted the regional indians there in the area. i got to visit, and it is a harsh climate. nobody is going to deny that. it takes almost courage to move there if you are a single woman. i know somebody who was offered the job in bethel and couldn't take it because it was too daunting. it is a harsh climate. i couldn't do it. i'm from florida. my daughter was born in sarasota, florida, and went to alaska. her experience was very different from the norm. i got to see alaska. i can't say exactly what i think about it, because i couldn't live there. i knew that then and i know it now. host: i'm going to stop you there, but thank you for adding your voice to the story. guest: i've been to beth several times.

that is what they say about alaska. you have to love it, and when you love it, you can't leave it. many people make those choices, and other people just can't deal with the environment. frankly, it is also the darkness in the wintertime. host: our next color is from philadelphia -- our next caller is from philadelphia. caller: i've been waiting for somebody -- i see these make america great signs. i think the native folks need to take this country back. you have been ripped off totally, in every category. i think it is sinful, and these folks are going to pay the price for it. thank you. guest: thank you. i want to say, the one good thing with native americans getting a little bit more visibility these days, is we

have been able to share lessons we've learned. for example, when we talk about the environmental issues. the intellectual knowledge of indigenous people is helpful. when we were having the climate change discussions during the president obama era, and we had meetings at the glacier summit of their. when i really enjoyed at the glacier summit is that every panel had an indigenous leaders speaking from their perspective, in addition to the scientists. anding indigenous knowledge scientists of today is a great way of learning about what is happening in our changing environment. host: on the line for american indians, joining us from newtown, maryland. caller: hello. sal.me is

calling from north dakota. i am native american. i want to say to the lady, great job on what you are doing, but let's touch on a couple of topics. have had americans everything stripped from us, taken from us. they gave us the smallpox blankets, things of that nature. let's touch on one more thing, the environment. how about the pipelines going across in the country? upt alone, they are tearing sacred grounds. one more thing, let's get with the epa issue. with their restrictions on federal lands, when we are actually on federal lands, we are on their every day. whereas the epa isn't on there. one final thing, this person you guys call the president, trump,

with his name-calling and name references to native americans. gosh, it is so disrespectful. american, born and raised on an indian reservation. to hear that from the president of the united states, wow, it is mind-boggling. with that being said, anyway, i think we are strong people. are going to come back. we aren't going anywhere. excuse me, non-native america really needs to open their eyes. going anywhere. we are going to be here until the end of time. you, color from north dakota. guest: i appreciate sal calling in. i appreciate being able to hear from the communities at home. those are some of the issues we deal with on a regular basis,

making sure the committee is reflective of tribal governments and their perspective. i want to be clear, indian country is not against development. we want to be treated like other governments and have the same rights. host: -- just spent two weeks in alaska, saying it still wasn't enough. your favorite part of the state? guest: it has got to be at home. my favorite place is on the river. from hogan'so ben, bird, new york. guest: it is great to hear jacqueline speak. i want to mention, i live way up in the northern part of new york

state. the same region as the mohawk tribe. they have a relatively small casino which has been fairly successful. fact, it isof really the major industry -- host: i'm going to stop you there because we are getting feedback. response? there, a smalln tribe on the border of canada. some members have to go back and forth. when we were working with the mohawks, the issue of homeland security, tribal citizens being able to cross with their tribal id has been an issue. that would have been our traditional route to go back and forth. -- definitely doesn't deal with rural infrastructure issues. audience, when you get through, be sure to put the

volume down. there's a bit of a delay. this will prevent the echo. --ler: i was calling about --e been to a couple iowa casinos run by native americans. i've talked to tribal leaders and been invited to their celebrations for the summer. the thing they are concerned about is the alcoholism and trying to stop the cycle that happens from generation to generation. with both of those -- the winnebago and omaha have had trouble with management and had to replace them with other ethnic groups. guest: on two fronts, there is no doubt we have had high levels of alcoholism. heart of that was when settlers

came across, they felt one way of coercing tribes was to get them drunk. alcoholism became a problem. but then it became ongoing, as we don't with historic trauma and challenges in our communities, we are still susceptible to high levels of suicide. in indian prevalent country, whatever is the point of access. the thing that i think gives us promise as i see the next generation holding strongly on to who they are as a person. so instead of being downtrodden or having people berate them for being an indian or make them feel less than, what is happening with our young people is they are proud of who they are, learning their language and culture. i'm hoping the confidence and self-esteem will help us tackle

some of these challenging issues of historic trauma. the executivet is director of the congress of american indians, and previously served as the deputy assistant secretary at the department of housing and urban development, focusing on native programs. we are joined from dallas, texas. caller: i'm so glad to speak with you. i have native american lineage, choctaw. our people walked the trail of tears, and my grandmother proved by getting on the -- in the early 1900s. and i had proved mine also. i'm wondering, my grandmother received money throughout her life because of what had happened. that i need to throw in i'm so disturbed by the way

native americans have been treated. it breaks my heart. but anyway, i'll go one and ask. my grandmother always said there would be a final settlement for the cherokee and choctaw that walked from mississippi delta to oklahoma. do you have any knowledge about that, or how i could find out? guest: the best way to find out is obviously to get a hold of your tribe, the choctaw nation otherahoma or whatever tribe you might be affiliated with. there have been a variety of settlements, claims with the federal government. sometimes, the tribes take those resources and actually reinvest them into services for the tribal citizens collectively, like health care, education, or other things. you should definitely call

directly to the tribe to find out. to alcoholism,rd what programs are in place and what more needs to be done? ofst: -- from hhs does a lot great work with indian country and tribes. and trying to deal with behavioral health issues. some of the other kinds of challenges that are systemic -- heart of it also comes because we have a high rate of victimization in indian country. and a lot of those victims are by non-native perpetrators. adds to the that problem. we've also been working with congress and have been able to get more jurisdiction over non-native perpetrators to create these that challenges, to create victims in our communities. tribes doo seeing some amazing things in leading the way. in sainte marie, they did a

whole survey of their tribal and they used it to create a strategy. like -- intribes north washington state. they've actually worked and partnered with their counties to -- excusede opioid me, opioid prevention services and recovery services. you see tribes leading the way in areas they live in. our focus, american indians and alaska natives. this is as we take a look at alaska issues this weekend on all of the c-span network. check out the schedule on our website. george from illinois. caller: i love your show. i wanted to ask your guest about , nativeany africans

americans that predate white colonialism in this country? guest: i do not have that answer, of them predating his country. i do know there are a lot of african-american-native american mixed blood, particularly because in the eastern side of the country, when there was the trail of tears and a lot of removal, many native americans actually moved to the woods to hide out. they co-mingled amongst african-americans, so you see a high prevalence of mixed-blood african-americans and native americans as part of american indian tribes today. be seenr city tour can at 2:00 eastern time that includes juneau and fairbanks. from book tv,

following this program at 10:00 eastern time, visiting alaska to talk with the state's authors and visit its literary sites. eastern time on c-span 2. mike from pennsylvania. wondering if the lady knows that president trump often stated that andrew jackson is a hero of his. the tribesring how feel about the direction of the trumpder this present republican administration. and my third question is, do you have a mechanism to get people a way as toin such help out the native americans in this country? thank you for your call. great, thank you.

first of all, native americans under andrew jackson, it was a very disturbing time for us. i'll be honest about that. ,hat has created concern for us was, what does this president think andrew jackson felt about tribes during this time? i have to say, president trump was one of the first -- early on, he invited tribes to the white house to talk about energy policy. may have a representation of andrew jackson that indian country feels uncomfortable about, but that doesn't necessarily mean he is following andrew jackson's policy. about the epa, tribes care a lot about the epa, particularly because there's tribes they give directly -- there's resources

they give tribes directly to deal with administrative sources. things like solid waste, water at the tribal level. maintaining the epa and those tribal service programs is important to us. the third question about native votes, absolutely. campaign native vote across the country, really trying to make sure we have educated native americans. that we turn out to vote. it's been difficult. native americans were the last citizens in the united states to get the right to vote. we've been trying to overcome that and make sure native americans register and exercise our civic responsibility. host: our next color is from alaska. caller.ext caller: i live in alaska, in haines.

there's a difference, from my perspective, with medicare and having services at the native health clinic here, which is our only source of health care in this community. there seems to be so much power with the native health thing here. they certainly have the backing. what i'm saying is, i can't get a medicare explanation of benefits because the native tribes have decided to turn that flagged off, so i never get a medicare summary of notice. i have to call in. and when i called medicare, they can't print it out because they say it takes an act of congress. i'm wondering when -- i appreciate that the native power have, by getting and self-determination, but it seems like they are taking some of the things that i expect as a medicare recipient and a white

person, away from me. host: will get a response. guest: first, i'm glad you're but i don't know about the technology services and what they have chosen to do or not, or maybe don't have the software to do. , surge know, obviously is the regional health care system in alaska, and they would be the ones i would call an asset question. medicare is extremely important in alaska and important indian country. dealinganother way of with enough resources to deliver some other critical services for indian services across indian country. we are very supportive to

maintain medicare services. who could note ask you a question, how can people get more information? can email me or go to our website and fair information, or send us a comment. host: email me or go to our jacqueline patek, from the national congress of american indians. thank you. we will continue our look at alaska we, so we hope you tune in to all of the c-span networks. , mona charen and her new book with a look at feminism in america. but first, we set down with murkowski as part is -- as part of our alaskan series. we focus on alaska, but one key -- butn and out will she one key question -- will she support cavanaugh? >> there is a great deal of

attention that has been trained on me because primarily of the issue of roe v. wade. and what will happen when kennedy, viewed as the swing member, when he leaves and judge kavanagh will replace him, what then happens to the balance on women's reproductive issues? there are so many other issues that are certainly a concern. we are a state that believes very, very strongly in entering we are respecting second amendment rights, for instance. identify, and said, there is one issue, that for me will guide my determination on this nomination

or any future nomination for the united states supreme court, that is not how i operate. i have been looking at judge kavanagh and his record holistically, just as i did for every other justice i have had an opportunity to weigh in on, whether it was justice kagan or sotomayor or gorsuch or judge roberts. so, i am perhaps taking more time than some would like me to. say, youhe right would need to be deciding right now that you will be supporting him. and those on the left would say, you need to decide right now that he is just not acceptable. i don't operate that way. i will take my time. i will be thoughtful. , who iswith my son finishing up law school that i feel like i am back in law school because i am reading the opinions. i want to gauge them for myself. i will nots not -- be able to ask him a question on , what will you do in x case?

i would not ask that question. and he would not answer that question. so, what i am trying to do is discern if judge kavanagh has the qualities that i think we're all looking for in a judge, the judicial temperament, the character, the intelligence, the desire to truly follow the law rather than to try to move things in a more predetermined, or perhaps a political outcome. >> washington journal continues. host: we want to welcome that mona charen with her new book enclosed sex matters." thank you for being with us. we will talk about the book, let's talk about news of the day. a conservative publication,

disgrace in helsinki. your reaction? guest: possibly a little understated, if anything. that was one of the most dismaying examples of a president chuckling to a former dictator. and he came right on the heels of president trump being so rude and obnoxious to our allies. i was saying to somebody, imagine if he had come out of the nato summit with coming you know, reaffirmation of our strong relationships with our allies, and then gone into the meeting with putin? it would have been, what he claims as his great goal. he would have been strong in that instance. as it was, he came having exploded the national alliances sharee with nations that our values and have been ally since the end of world war ii. poodle when little

it came to putin. and it was just an absolutely horrifying thing, both from a moral and a geo-strategic perspective. and i think there were many more republicans that were horrified them are willing to say so publicly -- that were horrified than they are willing to say so publicly. host: russia calling on the release to release a second agent using sex in a covert plan. for four years, russian accused of being a covert agent pursuit a brazen effort to infiltrate conservative circles and influence powerful republicans while she secretly was in contact with russia intelligence operatives, according to a senior russian official and a billionaire oligarchs close to the kremlin. the woman carried out her campaign through a series of deceptions that began back in 2014, according to prosecutors.

she lied to obtain a student visa to obtain graduate work at an american university in 2016, hoping for a visa that will grant her a longer stay, she offered one american sex for exchange for a job. describing him as her boyfriend, for heressed disdain and had him do her homework. in a dramatic hearing this past wednesday, prosecutors say that she is charged with conspiracy, was the point person and a calculator, long-term campaign intended to steer high-level politicians towards moscow's objectives. tost: she figured out how gain access and influence was to join the nra and become a spokeswoman for gun rights.

this was a successful gamble she was reported to have been living with with a well-known operative. and he has been around. but you know what it is striking about this? we know about her and a half dozen russian agents that were discovered during the obama administration, including that redheaded bombshell. what was her name? anyway, they sent them back. and also the ones we caught. this is clearly a very carefully orchestrated effort to gain influence in the united states on behalf of the kremlin. and you really do have to wonder whether this is just the tip of the iceberg? host: that was my question because this seems like more

potatoes compare red to the bigger issues. but could it lead to more? guest: we will see. it certainly could, robert mueller has already indicted a number of russians. we know there was a concerted attempt and the director of national intelligence, dan coats, has said the warning lights are blinking red, and we have a huge problem with soviet attempts to commit cyber war. it is so easy to slip into soviet. russia attempts to commit cyber work with us. i think -- we are getting mere glimpses of a very huge campaign of influence. you know, it is very cheap and easy for the russians to do this. is the mostord infuriating about what the russians are doing is that they have been so successful in

pushing our button. and encouraging people who andow black lives matter believe the worst about republicans, and encouraging republicans to believe all kinds of stories about immigrant criminals. they are playing upon our already existing divisions and bitter rain them. headline, republicans to the white house and the summit mystery basically saying we want to know what you agreed to. ? guest: this decision to meet with putin alone for two hours was really the most reckless thing we have seen. well, i should say when you are dealing with certain administrations -- in a few months, but we presumably, the russians were recording it and we don't know if our side was. this could be an opportunity to

talk about who knows what? it will be extremely difficult to figure out what was agreed to. . to keep tabs on the u.s.'s position and it could also have been the opportunity for even more blackmail, if trump said something unwise, and putin has it on tape. he can then threatened to reveal it in exchange for some kind of concession. it was appalling judgment. conversationorded to must before the election between donald trump and michael cohen involving the payoff of a playboy playmate. how damaging is that? guest: again, we don't know. what strikes me about that story is the kind of people that trump has always surrounded himself with. who has ever heard of a lawyer tape-recording his client without the client's knowledge?

it is really unheard of, and it gives you a sense about the kind of company trump kept. if you lie down with dogs, you wake up with fleas. i should not do that because i love dogs. host: you are talking with mona charen with her new book. i want to get your reaction -- president trump fuming as a talks of north korea stalled. here are some of the details. u.s. negotiators have faced resistance from a north korean team practice in the art of delay. diplomats say the north koreans have counseled meetings and demanded more money and failed to maintain basic communication, even as the once-isolated regime's engagements continue. a missile engine testing facility that trump said was destroyed has remained in tack and pyongyang are working to conceal aspects of its missile

program. the president has fumed at his aides in private as he hill for success of these negotiations. guest: he should feel at the man in the mirror. he is the one that returned from that summit with kim jong-un, which was an atrocity in its own way. praising one of the worst human rights violator on the planet and sucked up to him in a low some fashion -- loath some fashion. after the summit, he came home and said, the new year threat is ismore -- the nuclear threat still more and has been solved. because he had a few nice handshakes and the meeting, he declares the problem over? i don't know what it suggests. his inexperience, his indifference to the facts -- i don't now. he has, and you know,

told all of his followers that he made this great, diplomatic breakthrough, and of course, you look at the facts -- north korea is framing him. they were supposed to return the bodies of 200 americans left over from the korean war and have not done that. they were supposed to destroy facilities and have not done that. they are dragging out the negotiations. my criticism of the trump administration is not to suggest that the previous presidents were geniuses with dealing with north korea. but i don't recall any of them saying they have solved the problem. and here we are. host: and this is the other girl, vladimir putin spy anna chapman. the book to get close sex matters, what is the premise? around at howlook

men and women are getting along and how things are going regarding such in our society, not so well -- regarding sex in our society, not so well. to agree that men and women have different qualities and namely, not everything is socially-constructed, and the reason we have problems is we had been expecting to create an androgynous utopia, and there is no such thing. so inevitably, we're butting heads against reality. i have a number of different treatments of this issue coming at different points of view, talking about the decline of marriage, for example. the feminists taught us that marriage was a trap for women, a creature of the patriarchy that was designed to keep women down

as breeders and people who would take care of the children and the men while men went out and got all of the glory. this was a mistake. if you look at the way men and women are, marriage is actually the most important social institution for making adult happy and secure and for raising children in the best possible environment. far from being a trap for women, it is necessary for women even more for men for a full and happy life. a life that will also of course include, contributions in the workplace, careers, and all of that. but without that foundation of family life, families ability, we're getting into serious, serious trouble. and that are a million other ways we are getting into trouble, too. host: mona charen sat down on a

"q&a program earlier this year you can check it out on our website at c-span.org. our guest is author and columnist. at phone lines are open 202-748-8000 for democrats. 202-748-8001 for republicans, and for independence 202-748-8003. you write the following quote -- feminism is no longer a controversy and that become a piety in many respects and his --e celebrating the quality equality has borne abundant fruit and a rich the lives of men, women, and children. but feminine -- but feminism has carried costs, too. how so? guest: by devaluing family life, feminists have made it much more difficult for women to achieve that balance that most women

seek. that is a happy and secure personal life as well as a career. people as, can you have it all? my answer is you can have it all, but not all at once. and i have a footnote -- having isn't the highest good. when we are looking at a really flourishing human life, we have lost sight of the joys and rewards of getting, not just having. and when you devote yourself to others, you achieve a kind of peace and happiness and deeper happiness that is beyond, you know, being a career person. i have gotten tremendous gratification from my work. beenvery glad that i have a columnist and writer and so forth, but nothing can compare to the true, deep satisfaction of being a wife and a mother. those other things that have been the most meaningful to me. and i think, we tended --

feminist a responsible for downplaying that side of life. and that is unfortunate. it has been unfortunate for kids and for women and also for men, who don't drive when marriage declines. so, that is one area. the other area is that feminists -- backn the 1970's with gloria steinem who had a great influence in the are experiencing that today -- they were right that women reserved equal pay for equal work. that part was good. where they made a really severe long-term was in believing that they needed to ratify the sexual revolution and say, yeah, all of those old standards about people behaving themselves, you know

people engaging in courtship and romance and fidelity, that all of those things were relics of the patriarchy and had to be tossed aside, and this would give everyone more sexual freedom and more happiness. and of course, they won. the sexual revolution became our new normal and triumph. but it is not making women happier. women are different from men. they don't want to be as promiscuous as the worst men. by the way, the best manner not promiscuous. that that is not what women in general tend to want. our nature,se of going back to human nature, ok -- we are the ones who get pregnant. we are the one to take your babies. who need mene ones to stick by us and be faithful to us, and protect us, and support us during those periods of our lives when we are most vulnerable.

that is around having children. by the way, in a great partnership is often the case that a women will be the one who takes the lion's share of responsibilities for working if her husband is in college or graduate school, or whatever. there are trade-offs in marriages. nature.s back to human despite -- and most women are not comfortable with the term feminist because they regard it as too radical. course, they of believe in evil rights what they want balance and the opportunity to do what i did, which is work full-time, then get married, then we had kids, i cut back at work voluntarily. i did not feel like i was losing anything.

my family was gaining and i was gaining because that is what i wanted. and by the way, that is what most married mothers want. 76 percent of married mothers say their ideal when their kids are young is part-time work. and i did part-time work. be listeningould to what women choose among women truly want, not imposing upon them a rigid idea that somehow, if a choose family, or choose to cut back on the careers a little bit while the kids are young, somehow that is letting down the team, or not being good feminists. host: you write in your book -- the sexual revolution and did the retreat and left women -- and let children far less well-off economically. these twin movements may have also taken a toll on many men find themselves aimless and unemployed.

let's bring in our callers. stephen from pennsylvania, on the line from republicans on the line with mona charen. good morning. caller: hi, can you hear me? host: we can. caller: perfect. thatnk it is important customs don't get created without reason. the main reason you're saying marriage go down, yes, feminist's attitudes play a role , and you don't really need a man. we have welford that will take care of you and that puts minimum and apart. people wanted to get married when they had a child back then, but those things exist. when the government kind created an out, you saw these things below out of control. host: your thoughts? guest: there is no question that

the caller is right that that plays a role. it did not change moore's, but it did enable people to make choices without facing harsh consequences. is what we need to focus on that the most successful people in our society, the people who are the top one third who go to college and beyond -- they are behaving in ways that are not that different from the way most americans paid in the 1950's. that is, they tend to finish their education, get married, and have children in that order. and not in any other order. and only about 10% of them have babies before they are married. bottomnately, for the two thirds of the society, the

trends are much more in the other direction remarriage is becoming more and more rare. and we had been doing this for enough decades now that it is creating a really dangerous thing in our society were there so many young men, whose mothers are high school graduates only, and who did not marry, or who married after and not the father of their child, that there are many, many young men who are being raised and coming into adulthood without having the experience of growing up in an intact home. we know from all the evidence and common sense, that those guys are not marriageable, many , because they are much less likely to be employed, to be reliable, to be the kind of upstanding pillars of a good

relationship that women need. by the way, you might say, well, if there is a lot of divorce and unwed parenting in the high school educated population, what about the girls? turns outcome and there is a lot of interesting research on this, that while growing up without a father definitely does heard girls -- definitely does low girls, like having self-esteem and psychological issues while teenagers, still, the effect is worse on boys. boys are significantly less likely to attend college, or to be employed when they reach adulthood if they grew up without a father men -- without a father than their sisters who grew up in the same situation. host: feminists took another wrong turn on the subject of

sex. the sexual revolution could have -- could'vered never succeeded with out the in premature a feminist who endorsed it as part of women's liberation. women will always be more such a vulnerable than men. sexwill they ever approach like men can. the book is called "sex matters," and our guest is mona charen. caller: good morning, steve. of are the paradigm nonpartisan news. my question for mona is, in light of donald trump access hollywood tape, i think 11 different women are pursuing him for sexual misconduct.

explain the religious right at how they tolerate this person. thank you very much. host: thank you. guest: i think there are many people on the religious right who have really damaged their credibility, to say the least like being so unwilling to trump,k things by donald who would've had complete meltdowns that they were a democrat. it is that selling your soul to , orinto the supreme court to get deregulation, or tax cuts, or whatever. it has become very transactional. suppose, youi know, the local councilman in new jersey might say, well, you know, i don't like trump, but i will go along with this because it is politics and that is the way things are. but from religious leaders, you

certainly expect a higher standard. they are supposed to answer to a higher authority. after all, their claim upon the public respect and attention is based upon the religious sensibilities, right? they are not giving us the political expertise. they are saying, we are religious leaders and are concerned about morality. control they sides for their guy. and i think they damage themselves very much. robertur next caller is from california. caller: good morning, mona. love your columns, too. i would like to say something -- and look at kellyanne conway as , one of as a feminist the greatest feminist i have seen in my time. the other thing, back in west

didany when i was there, we intel. and we used prostitutes for getting information. we would use them back and forth indiscriminately. very intelligently, but we had very smart ones. in a matter how you want to sit, those people were very good at what they did. girls t german full trait. -- the west german girls knew how to infiltrate. aten are very, very good getting the bits and pieces that can roll in a man -- that can ruin a man. guest: it would be hard to

imagine that we do not do similar things. i would just say that it depends on what your ultimate aim is. if your aim at using a prostitute is to find out whether the east germans have planted a bomb in west germany, then that is one thing. if you are using, if you are using spies to undermine the democracy, undermine an appeasement posture by the free countries against the russians, to undermine nato, the greatest peacekeeper in the history of the world, then that is something else. you also have to consider, not just the use of female spies in whatever form, but --

host: let me turn to the midterm elections. columbus, indiana, according to a study by brookings, is the most export-reliant place in the export-reliant area in the region. putld trump and mike pence forth with regards to trade. how big of an issue will this be in that big --in the key house races? guest: china and others have been very strategic and the retaliation for our trade actions, with our tariffs. they had been targeting districts full of trump voters, so they know what they are doing. they are trying to undermine support. these things take so long to play out, and it is so difficult in a democracy to say, this caused this.

thepass the tariff and threats don't kick in, and by then, one million things have happened, too good do, like interest rates have changed. and it could be difficult to pin responsibility on a particular economic consequence of particular policies. for what they are hoping to do is to hurt those people who are in big agricultural exporting regions. and hope they get the message that this is a direct consequence of trump's trade war. leesburg, from virginia, independent line. caller: good morning. you aboutsagree with trump by 75%. if your best friend is taking advantage of you, you have to call them out, and maybe in public. and maybe be more gentle with your enemies to draw them in.

and the last guy's statement on kellyanne conway, she's awesome and i agree with her. human biology and hormones are complicated and above my pay grade. i am 50 years old and i was in the navy. all of these hormones when they started putting women aboard ships, it is just going to happen. men are men and that was early. i was 12 years old when i decided women was the way i wanted to go. create an a to sexual utopia. and as far as lesbians and homosexuals getting married, i thought what about holly amyris him -- what about pollyanna resume? host: thank you for the call. yes.: well, so, human nature is what it is.

you go to campuses and you see them decrying what they call toxic masculinity. in "sex matters," is first of all, masculinity and femininity are realities. they are not tax sick nor benign -- they are not toxic nor benign. thousands of years of civilization have evolved to try to channel men's natural inclinations into more civilized expressions. men have always been interested in lots of women. and the way we controlled that for centuries, obviously with sometimes greater or lesser success, was to tell men, no, you have -- you had to get married and be faithful to one woman. more ofay, that was what women wanted.

feminist,hat the having thrown over all of those rules about how to constrain , having thrown that aside, finding ourselves in the world of hookup culture, and a world of sexual harassment gone , well, the say problem is toxic masculinity, and a solution is to make minute to better feminists. first of all, that is not going to work. there are lots of male feminists who are not so great in treating women well like bill clinton harvey weinstein. -- bill clinton and harvey weinstein. it guest: was nbc right to fire matt lauer? guest: there were so many, it is

a long list. charlie rose, yes. yes, they were. i think the me too movement is a good thing and women should be speaking up about being badly treated. but i think the me too movement is a cry of pain from women about the sexual ultra they have inherited, where it is anything goes, and the old standards about gentlemanly behavior have been thrown out the window. behavior cells, keep your pants on, don't touch me. host: back to the phones. [laughter] this hand-in-hand with are ae of men in rolls gender-bending age of plot the father who adopt the traditional female role of nurturer of belittling the father who facebook to his wife and

supports his children. , jasonk by mona charen is joining us from north carolina on the democrats' line. good morning. caller: i have so many questions. one question and i think this is more important, i replace a ted talks, talking about lower birth rates in north america in the united states. and one of the reasons for that was the policy in regard to supporting women who get out of the workforce to support their children, not having an opportunity to get back into the workforce and possibly that lack of time is the reason why they get paid less. i am curious -- what do you think about that policy or policy changes that can help to support women? or is that a part of the feminist's mindset that is damaging to society? host: thank you. guest: so, there are surveys

that suggest that when women have taken time off and they these are at the higher ends of career positions -- try to get back to the workforce, it can be difficult because things change quickly, and that is an issue, no question. and there are programs to help women do that. and with technology, it is becoming more and more possible for women to telecommute and work from home so that they are not really out of the workforce completely while they are cutting back. so, and by the way, sometimes men do this, too, and that is fine with me as long as someone is taking care of the kids. issue,le that can be an from the data i have seen, most women who cut back, did not have any trouble getting back into the workforce when they were ready full-time. but the real problems that comes from the feminist revolution

involved people who are at the lower end of the social economic ladder, where they don't have the skills to have a career. they are just having to work in any job they can get to keep body and soul together and take care of their kids, and usually, these are women who have no partner. prettym, life is desperately difficult. as someone who raised three sons with my husband, i continue, i cannot imagine what it would have been like by myself, and i have a graduate degree, right? and i cannot imagine for someone who is just a high school graduate. statistics if you don't mind and as people who do get married and have children together, they do great. their kids do great. so, it really is important to get back to a marriage-ethic for

people at the lower end of the social economic spectrum will not be getting that message, who have been sort of getting, everything that matters is love, and as long as you have a loving parent and single mothers are great. single mothers are great, but not as good for the kids as having two loving parents. nancyyou worked for reagan into said, if you want to understand the strengths of a woman, they are like a tea bag -- put them in hot water and see how the sustain that. there has been a lot of speculation that a nifty reagan had not been married to ronald reagan, would he have entered politics? guest: excellent question. he very well may have been influenced by her and by her stepfather, who was political. he was a doctor. that may have spurred his interest. but i think he was always kind guy was drawnical

to doing a tremendous amount of reading. so, i don't know. but i do know this much -- that they were a team. and she could not have been her best self without him and vice versa. host: brine in plymouth, wisconsin with mona charen on the republican line. good morning. caller: good morning, and thank you for taking my call. the morning, mona. i agree with virtually everything -- your take on modern feminism. i think that is spot on, however, i take issue with your comment on donald trump. when i look at this alleged collusion between russia and donald trump, i don't know what part of trump's agenda really plays into russia's strengths. for instance, donald trump wants

to make our manufacturing base strong again. he wants to strengthen our military. he wants to strengthen immigration policies so we know who is coming in. host: let me jump in because you mentioned collusion. i want to put on the table with what mike pence said that there was no collusion, but it is good that russia try to influence the election. do you buy that argument? doesr: absolutely, but so china and other foreign countries. the last point i want to make, remember in the last election, the choice was between donald trump and hillary clinton. that is all i have to say, thank you for taking my call. guest: well, you won't get any arguments from the about hillary clinton. i will say two things -- one is that what does putin achieve by

having helped to elect donald trump? goaloal that has been his for his entire time in power is breaking up nato, disrupting nato, which trump is trying to do and doing a good job of undermining nato now that he is president. the other thing he achieves for putin and against the rest of us is, he undermines faith in the truth as an objective reality. putin is all about throwing so much disinformation into the world covenant people shrug their shoulders and give up and say, who knows what the truth is? they shot down that civilian airliner, and then immediately floated one million conspiracy theories of who might've done it, to the point where people did not know what was true. this is one of their age-old techniques that go back to soviet days.

destabilizingally and the, especially because donald trump has invited into the white house even, number of conspiracy theorist types like alex jones and others, not that jones is one, but he has invited people like that. these are people who traffic in the worst kinds of conspiracy mongering. and the undermining of truth is another goal of putin that trump unfortunately has been helpful in forwarding. lost how modern feminism touch with science, love, and common sense. the book is titled "sex matters." caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. mona, i absolutely love your book and i totally agree with your opinion. imf 73-year-old woman, so i came through a lot of this garbage

that women have been swimming in, and glad to hear someone is saying it like it should. but as to this whole political thing with trump and women, we see trump for who he is, and i am so disgusted with men who look at him and do not. the have to -- we have to in orderour own sense to even have a discussion anymore. if you come out against trump, well you are an idiot, woman and don't know what you're talking about. but yes we do. we are vary strong and oriented with a family structure in society and we are defending that. this man is not taking care of this country the way he shouldn't we know it. so, i'm wanting to thank you for coming on and saying this today -- excuse me -- women need to

hear this and reevaluate themselves and start rebuilding society with a family as the root. thank you again. guest: thank you. loved that call. nothing to add except, thank you so much. is right, the best teams are husband and wife from a tweet. that? have opinion on guest: there would have been problems, serious, sears problems if hillary had been president. but i don't think she would have been as reckless as he is. vote for her. i voted for mcmillan. host: did her gender affect the outcome of the vote? guest: impossible to say. i suspect not.

i saw interesting data a couple of years ago about turnout for populations certain , and attitudes about romney based on his mormon faith. which did not get a whole lot of attention, but could have been enough, according to this one analysis i saw, who accounted for his loss to barack obama in 2012. know, 129 people vote and it is impossible to say -- 129 million people voted and it is impossible to say. reasonsre so many other to not vote for hillary clinton because she is corrupt. todd from i am river, michigan on the democrats' line. caller: hi, mona. i would invite you to use more specificity when you use pronouns like men are feminists and russians.

i don't know who you are talking about. for most people, that kind of --iguity blends the public lends the public in advice them to use their imagination. i would take issue with your opinion that women are markedly more sexually vulnerable. and i would say, in this day and age, it brings more questions than ever. veryomen were making comfortable livings on webcam men's sort of exploiting urges against them in outstanding numbers like sites like ashley madison and dominatrix and so forth. host: do you want to respond? expectfirst of all, i

when i say things like women and russians, it is understood that i am speaking -- in the case of the russian government, i'm speaking about that. i am very careful to provide statistics and data to back up what i am saying. yes, these are generalizations, but generalizations are useful, right? less to that women are promiscuous than men. that is a reality. doesn't mean every woman is less must listen everyman. there are always going to be people who want to take advantage for money of other people. as you say, in this case, there are some smart operators who know that sex sells and they will provide a product and make money at it. -- it doesn'tmean contradict what i said about what most women want for their

lives. that is a lifelong, loving marriage and partner. undermine what i said about women being the more vulnerable sex. they are. and if you look at just the statistics on complaints of campus rape and campus sexual assault, you find it is nine to one women versus men making the complaint. why would that be if the sexes were exactly the same in their feelings of vulnerability? job, mona charen's day working at the public policy center. also syndicated columnist. want to go back to what you wrote a book. from increasing income inequality, the rising levels of adolescent anxiety from falling happiness -- levels of feel

happiness, the retreat from family life has far-reaching consequences. the institution of feminism as -- d us fromnext joining west virginia. good morning. caller: good morning. c-span is great. time register -- i'm a registered republican, but i do disagree with just about everything with the republican party. one thing i have never been able to understand is why working people would vote for the republican party? favorreagan, the tax cuts the people who are already on top. that is one thing i have never been able to understand. and i did vote for hillary clinton. thank you. host: on the tax cuts, did you support them? guest: know.

-- no. i supported the reagan tax cuts. but i felt with her $20 trillion debt, if you want to pass a tax cut, you should pass some spending cuts. and this congress and president did not choose to do that, so i'm a deficit hawk and i was worried about that. i can see that the corporate rate changes probably stimulated the economy to some degree. so that is great. but i do not think, especially regarding the tax structure as it currently is, that you needed to give tax cuts to individuals. and i am very, very worried about the fact that under both republicans and democrats, we are just seeing this explosion of spending. and it seems that when the democrats do, the republicans are desert hawks and they say, look at all this money obama spent. and the democrats increased the

budget deficit and the debt. and when they get into all this and have all three branches, well the two relevant branches, they do exactly the same thing. suddenly forget all about the debt. and the democrats say, we are very worried about the deck is a -- worried about the dental everybody is a hypocrite. host: what about the senate? guest: i don't think so. host: kenney is joining us from georgia. caller: good morning. i agree with mona on everything she said. i look at my own role in this and it is my fault. i got two daughters 25 and 27, and i have raised them to be self-reliant. they were raised in a traditional marriage. i was looking at the trends. me and your mom have been married our whole lives, but you cannot depend on being married,

senior to get your education and be able to provide for yourself. if you scrap a late that across america, there are probably a lot of dads like me. where are we going? i don't know. guest: are your daughters married now? host: he hung up. guest: he is gone. i met a lot of young woman in the course of writing this book that got the same message. in many of them did not grow up in intact families and their parents had been divorced, or whatever, and they were very, very worried about not depending on a man to protect them. and i do think that is an unfortunate and corrosive message because we do need to depend on one another. none of us is an island. and men need women, too, by the way. there's all kinds of data in the book that happened to men when

they don't have women -- they are more likely to die and have more depression, opiates, addiction, you name it. men do not do well either without the security of lifelong love and commitment and marriage. host: jason, democrats' line, good morning. caller: hi, mona. i have a question. when i go back through history, i see women who have their own opinion would be burned at the stake. for women just had the right to vote this last century. when some devious person gets crazy, they go out and want to kill women. not just prostitutes, but all women. do you think women have gotten a bad deal throughout history? guest: i think that both sexes have gotten bad deals in various ways. for most of human history, it used to be that the reason for

leaving aside disease, there were two things that killed off people in their 20's -- for women, it was childbirth, and fermented was war, or violence. say, whatyou could about those men who were forced to go off and fight wars in faraway places? was that men getting a raw deal? it definitely was, but to attribute it to some sort of conspiracy against man is not helpful. the fact is, had some women been mistreated over the years? yes. is there such a thing as misogyny? you bet. you can find a lot of that online now. are women sometimes looked down upon by men as less intelligent or less emotionally-stable, less capable of leadership? i would not deny any of that because there is some of that.

but at the same time, there are many things men go through. the tent to have the worst kinds of jobs, the most dangerous jobs -- they tend to have the worst kinds of jobs, the most dangerous jobs. we cannot constantly evaluate ourselves in competition, you know? if women are doing well, that is great. i don't think that is the way to look at it. we need to thrive together. word.ed, you get the last >> thank you for taking my call. i was just wondering, what are your thoughts -- i know it is popular that we seem to deny archaeology, you know -- that we seem to deny our biology, you know? some are good and some are bad, but each sex has both. wherea recent phenomenon

they want the children to decide their sex. to me, this is really, really ridiculous. i don't know where these wild ideas come from. had you let a child decide if they are male or female? biology generally decide that by itself. you know? [laughter] what you think about this craziness? host: thank you. guest: thank you. i agree with you. it is kind of a crazy thing. i mean, there are some rare individuals who is something called gender dysphoria, and they are not happy about the sex they have and so forth. but that doesn't mean they are the other sex. it just means they have a kind of unhappiness. as for where these ideas come from, i do trace that in my book where i talk about the original

feminists who argued that all the differences we observed between men and women are artificial, except for obvious therefore we have it in our power to create people who were completely androgynous. that was a lie from the very beginning but it has infiltrated into our society. up in otherming ways, including the transgender movement. latest -- what is your next one? thank you very much for stopping by. guest: thank you for having me. host: it's available on her website at c-span.org. we are back tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern time with washington journal. "newsmakers" is next. check out all of her program on c-span,