taking questions at the house of commons. later, as part of c-span's look at alaska, you will hear from members of the congressional announcer: this week on q&a, grace kennan warnecke discusses her memoir, daughter of the cold war. grace kennan warnecke, why did they call you come years ago miss x? ms. kennan warnecke: because my sent back the longest telegram ever sent to the state

department in 1947. it became an article which he was not allowed to sign which first appeared in foreign affairs emma it was called the x article because it was anonymous. it was printed then in life magazine. the cause of the mystery about and i was called x called miss x by people who thought they were very smart. this was in the 1950's. i was in college. brian: the telegram is 5500 words. what was it about? ms. kennan warnecke: it was about the fact that we had just finished the war. we were allies with the soviet union. that people were being taken in by the russians, they were giving them too

favorable a picture. stalin was being called uncle joe, and there was this element that we were buddies. he felt that was a terrible system. he wrote this telegram to alert people that things were not as well as they thought it was. brian: there is a containment theory that he proposed. was it except by the state department and the government? ms. kennan warnecke: i do not know that it was ever formally accepted, but it became u.s. policy for over 50 years and had a huge influence on the state department. it's interesting, because my father died in 2005. we thought, he is going to be part of history, but we are not going to hear anything about him. now, i hear about him all the time. he is constantly being quoted.

to me, it it keeps him alive. brian: let's show some video of your father in 1966, talking about vietnam. >> the spectacle of americans inflicting injury on poor, helpless people, particularly the people of different race and color. no matter how warranted by military necessity, our operations might seem to us to be, the spectacle produces reaction among millions of people across the world, profoundly detrimental to the image we would like them to hold this country. brian: when you see that video, what do you first think about? ms. kennan warnecke: what a good speaker he was. brian: what was your relationship with him? ms. kennan warnecke: i had two relationships. i have the childhood

relationship, before he became famous. he traveled a lot. we were separated a lot. but when he was there, he was very funny. he would make up stories. we had a farm, and all of the animals had names and personalities. he loved the wind in the willows, and i think he carried that on. things that are very appealing to children. he was always interested in whatever i brought home. whether it was reading -- whatever i was reading. brian: what was your relationship with your mother? ms. kennan warnecke: i think i was born too soon after they were married. i came nine months later. she came from a norwegian town and did not even graduate from high school. she married of brilliant man who was also difficult because he was intellectual, introverted,

and complex. i cannot believe it was so easy being married to him. outgoingice, and norwegian lady. she was very young. she was 20 when they met in berlin. they were engaged six weeks later. they married soon after that. brian: how long did they stay married? ms. kennan warnecke: all their lives. they had their 70th wedding anniversary on september 11, and none of us could get there. brian: this book is a memoir of yours. .race kennan warnecke why did you write this? it is very personal. ms. kennan warnecke: i hear that quite a bit. people are quite surprised by

how personal it is. i wrote it because i'm a storyteller. as i tell stories, and i often did, people suggested i write them down. you had anave -- amazing life, you have met amazing people. but i was working full-time. i couldn't write. it was not feasible for me. when i came back to ukraine, where i had been living for 4.5 years, empowering ukrainian women, helping them to start small businesses, i decided it was time to empower me on a lot of levels. one of those levels was i was going to write a book. i took a course called memoirs from the middle at the y. it was taught by a wonderful poet.

we created a writing circle and we meet to this day. it took me eight years to write the book. i rewrote and rewrote. the writing circle kept begging me to say more and tell more. to reveal more. -- book i ended rob writing the book i ended up writing was not what i started with. it is much more revealing, much more open. much more candid, i guess. but also, it is a book i would have not written if my parents were still alive. i would never have wanted to hurt my mother in any way. but she was pretty much not there for me in my childhood. brian: we can go back over a lot of your life, that i want to pick something that stuck out with me in the book. , of thest husband

newspapers. this is one line. don't you realize who your husband is and what he is doing? don't you know he is gay? what is that about? ms. kennan warnecke: well, he was gay and i had no idea. i was told that by a friend of his. brian: what are the circumstances about him? where did you marry him, what was he like, and what were the circumstances where someone would tell you he was gay? ms. kennan warnecke: he was a wonderful man, a really nice man. bright, interesting, and i feel so badly for him that he was gay in a time where being gay was not permitted, it was looked down on. so much so that people did not talk about it. there was no conversation. day, it think the word

used it in my book and i think that was a mistake, actually. i think a probably -- i think probably another word was used. he was a terribly nice man. in libertyville, illinois, the night that eisenhower accepted the republican nomination for president. we were there because i was with my father. we were in highland park, he was doing research at the university of chicago, in the library. stephenson heard my father was there and wanted to meet him. we were invited to dinner. that is how we got there. press the assistant secretary for stephenson. so he was there. brian: how much time after that were you married? he moved toarnecke:

washington after the campaign. about 60 -- about six months later he phoned me up. i was not sure who he was. but i knew i met him at stephenson's house. probably 10ied months after we met. we were married for eight years. brian: was this particular incident what killed the berridge -- killed the marriage? ms. kennan warnecke: i am sure a few other things -- well, the fact that i had been living in a world i did not understand. i had no idea he was gay. thingsink some of those -- all married couples have problems. i have seen very few that are perfect. but i think some of the problems we had came from the fact that

he was really not interested in women. brian: where did you live when you are married? ms. kennan warnecke: sacramento, california. all of my children were born there. i had three. two of them are in california, one is now in pennsylvania. my youngest son is now the chairman of the board at the mccluskey newspapers. before that, he loved sports. -- the managing owner of the pittsburgh pirates. so he moved to pittsburgh along time ago. 11 years with the pirates. brian: when did your former husband die? ms. kennan warnecke: about 24 years ago. he died a long time ago. brian: a question about your relationship with him, and your

kids. what did they think of your memoir? ms. kennan warnecke: i think they probably had mixed feelings, but they are very nice to me. they are also proud. brian: why would they have mixed feelings? ms. kennan warnecke: i do not think they wanted everything that was in our family life necessarily there for people to read. but i purposely did not write about them. if you look at the book, it has very little. i mentioned my children, but they are in it very little. managing theson pirates, because it affected the family. even my father came to a pirates game and was keeping score. brian: how many places have you lived in the world? ms. kennan warnecke: i could not count. lived, with your father,

or the story gets complicated in germany. where have you lived? ms. kennan warnecke: we have lived in at least seven countries when i was a little girl. i did speak five languages by the time i was 12. i spoke russian, norwegian, german, portuguese, and french. we moved all the time. in those years, we lived in latvia, where i was born. russia, in vienna, in gue, inress, -- in prau berlin. port lisbon, back to russia. there was a lot of back to russia.

i went to a soviet school as the only foreigner. i was in the fifth grade. brian: how is your russian? ms. kennan warnecke: it is good. brian: what is the story about your father being interred in germany? ms. kennan warnecke: he was in berlin when the war started and the germans rounded up everyone in the embassy. plus any other strays they could find. ,o there were journalists there it was not just embassy people. they were taken out to an imprisonedesort and for six months. then they exchanged the journalists. they had a dramatic crossing on the waters, on a swedish ship. brian: where were you during those six months? ms. kennan warnecke: there were mysteries in my childhood. one was why my mother decided to move to bronxville, new york.

it has never been clear to me. before that, we were staying with my father's sister in illinois. they are before, i had gone to school in illinois and in milwaukee. we moved there in one year, to two different places. kennanthere is a george institute, but it is not your father. ms. kennan warnecke: it is. and the original george kennan for who he is named. they were born on the same day. they wanted to name it after my father. i assume it was named after both of them. they had the same name, so it is pretty easy. brian: where is it located? ms. kennan warnecke: the woodrow wilson international center for scholars in washington area i am

on their advisory council, and have been for 14 years. --is run by brian: what does it do? ms. kennan warnecke: it provides a home for scholars from the and american union scholars who are trying to learn something about russia. we have been very lucky. we have title viii money that funds these scholarships. the kennan institute puts on seminars about u.s. russia relations, cultural and political relations. -- there are many different levels in which we relation -- which we relate to russians. brian: who are the ones who enjoy the title viii

scholarships? ms. kennan warnecke: i do not want to miss speak -- misspeak. our russian and american scholars, but i need to double check. there a lot more activity behind the scenes between russian and american people that we do not know? all we hear about is the leaders of russia. ms. kennan warnecke: i think there is a lot more going on than what we see. i think there always has been. book then i gave my title " daughter of the cold war" is not just because of my father, but also because i spent years of my life working on projects designed to end the cold war. that is what i cared about. i wanted to get the people together. when governments don't get the two very well, when

governments are not happy with each other, citizen diplomacy plays an important and necessary role to remind the people that we are people. our governments are having but i wasthe moment, thinking of cultural diplomacy, the ballet, there is a tremendous amount of interest in russian-american jazz. we are interested in russian ballet. i was the founding executive director of the american soviet youth orchestra. we had 50 young musicians from the u.s., and 50 from the soviet union. they were all from the moscow conservatory. brian: in your book, you talk about the fact that your father inherited money from his father. you say it was a considerable amount. then you tell us that because of

the depression, the money is gone. then you tell us you bought a farm in pennsylvania emma your father did, for $14,000 -- pennsylvania, your father did, for $14,000. ms. kennan warnecke: the reason we had that money, which was a lot then, was because they did not pay him when he was interned in the cap. they said he was not working. they were not paying our diplomats who were imprisoned. they could not possibly work. that was looked into, and some but he realized it was a great injustice. so they got the money is a lump some. it was the first time in a long time my parents actually had some money to do something with. brian: is the farm still in your family? ms. kennan warnecke: yes. my sister owns it. it was left to her. brian: how was it used in the early years?

ms. kennan warnecke: it was the only home we had. we do not ever own anything in washington. svetlana. tell us the story about her. before we do that, let me show some video of her to remind people what she looked like. this is 1967. >> a woman once known as the little princess of the kremlin arrives from switzerland. joseph stalin's daughter sought asylum here, where women can feel free. she said religion had changed her. communism has lost its significance. it is impossible to exist without god in one part. brian: she was 42. ms. kennan warnecke: i was there, at the airport. brian: what was your age back

then? ms. kennan warnecke: in 1967? i'm not good at arithmetic. i was born in 1932. brian: so i could figure it out. 35 or so. what was your relationship with her after she arrived in the u.s.? ms. kennan warnecke: i had no relationship with her. she defected in india. the reason she was there is she whohad an indian boyfriend she met in the sanitarium. in russia, that is a competition -- combination of a hospital and health spa. they were there and fell in love. she claims they got married. they were never legally married. in her mind, they were married. when he died, she asked for permission to take his ashes and throw them in the gandy's river. that permission and

did that. she lived with his brother and vegetarian,became discovered religion. she became quite spiritual at that time. when she defected, the russians said, another is enough. you have to come home. they sent us go men. they were stationed -- they sent two men. was stalinse she starter, they did not take her passport. daughter, they did not take her passport. offered theand street, saying she was the daughter of stalin in did -- in new delhi. they did not know what to do. so she was from switzerland. -- theyed my father

flew him to switzerland to talk with her and ascertain whether she was really stalin's daughter. he said, definitely, she is. they talked for two or three days. she talked about her religion. my father was quite spiritual. she said, i just want quiet and peace. she could be quite dramatic in her own way. my father was very touched by this and said, we have a farm in pennsylvania. ,ou can come to east berlin pennsylvania. she said she had something else to do. she lives with her then translator, priscilla johnson, and then turned on her. in the end, svetlana always turned on everybody. it made her very difficult for

her to get along with people over a long period. od, hershort peri relationships were very intense. brian: this is a picture of set svetlanang for -- caring for her father. ms. kennan warnecke: she knew what her father had done. of hered every member mother's family. they were shot. everything but one of them. so she must have known, in some way, after a while. her mother died a bit mysteriously. svetlana was only six. so she was brought up in the kremlin. it was a strange upbringing.

she still talked a lot about her father. i think she dedicated her book to her mother. her.he did not really know the only family she had was her father, and she would kind of excuse him by saying he was influenced by beria. he was the head of the kgb. brian: here is a picture we have of her sitting in his lap. ms. kennan warnecke: he went after young girls. he was famous for that. but i don't think you would have dared going after stalin's daughter. brian: so she stayed at your farm for a while? were you alone with her there from time to time? my sister warnecke:

and her husband took care of her. they went into the peace corps, and then i came. i had three children and they came with me. then my sister, because of peace asked if i would mind taking her children. so i had five children under the age of eight. i was so excited about taking care of set lana. i was so -- svetlana. mind i in the back of my was going to write an article. i thought this was a big thing in my life. lanafive children and set tlana to feed, of course she would not touch the food. she was vegetarian. have the simplest, my

parents were not modern. we did not have a washer and dryer. i took the laundry for seven people and put dimes in the thing. shopping was a big thing. seven or eight people. train -- her translator and her lawyer came. they all stayed there and had to eat, as well. then somebody had to go to the airport to pick them up, namely me. the image i had envisioned. i spent most of the time in the kitchen. brian: here is svetlana and stalin speaking in a press conference a few days after she arrived. think many people who are

still in russia are responsible for the same things which he alone was accused. killing people, a justice. i feel responsible for this is and was the party, the regime. brian: why did she turn on the kennans? ms. kennan warnecke: she turn on everybody. she just dropped all communication with me. i did not hear from her, i never got a letter. she wrote a book about that summer and i am not in it. it didn't happen. i have photographs, so i can prove it did. but she felt that strongly. six years later, out of the

blue, did i want to come? she called me. she had a little girl named olga, who was not allowed to speak russian. olga.ent to tea and met she was a sweet little girl, and i kept thinking, my god, that is stalin's granddaughter. brian: in this picture is jacqueline kennedy and her warnecke.band, jack when you see that, what is your reaction? ms. kennan warnecke: i knew they had a romance. it looks like it was taken at that time. whoas the architect designed president kennedy's grave. so he worked very closely with the first lady. brian: and the architect of the

hart building in the senate here , among other things. how serious was the relationship? think --n warnecke: i my guess is she was not very serious about it. architect. his financial picture went up and down dramatically from time to time. liked to marry people with money and position. i do not think in the long run -- i think this was something she enjoyed and it was very short. she broke it off. i do not think it was going anywhere. i met him at a party in san francisco. i had just returned from cuba. not being back from in cuba, i am sorry.

i would go with my husband, and we were going to go together. he was writing argument -- writing articles about cuba. we learned that the cubans would not give me a visa. so i had to make my way back to san francisco. it was difficult. i do not have a proper visa. visa, and they would not let me go out the way i came in, because i was supposed to be transiting. attracted,were you and vice versa? do you remember the circumstances? ms. kennan warnecke: it was not very serious. i was married. we danced and had a good time. he was an attractive man, and i noticed him, but then we met , a couple of years later.

at that time, it became much more serious. then we dated for a long time. brian: you have a spot in your book where you say, a few months that you are jack planning to ask for it divorce -- ask for a divorce. and he said, you do not know what you are doing. i do not want any part of this. i'm not interested in getting involved in a woman with three children. i think we should stop seeing each other. ms. kennan warnecke: that is true. brian: you obviously remember that for a long time. why? because, iwarnecke: was planning on getting a divorce anyway. , and we had not seen each other that much. but it had been a strong attraction. -- it remember him saying

was a very strong statement. i do not want to have anything to do with you and your three children. that was fine. i went ahead and got a divorce. that plan did not depend on jack .arnke -- warnecke but then we were married in 1969. brian: how long were you married? ms. kennan warnecke: eight years. brian:? -- brian: why did you divorce? ms. kennan warnecke: we had different values. andas a very ambitious man not a terribly nice man. he was never terribly nice to my children. this got to be worse and worse. brian: he is not alive? ms. kennan warnecke: he died. mewas 15 years older than

and he died at age 91. brian: who did you meet through him that you became friends with. -- friends with? ms. kennan warnecke: i became much closer to the kennedy family. he had been their architect. he did senator ted kennedy's house, bobby had -- bobby kennedy's paul house. -- pool house. i knew senator ted kennedy. we were in the same class at harvard and ratcliffe. but i was not a close friend, just said hello. , jack let a glamorous life. much more glamorous than i was leading. the kennedys were one of the chief people i met.

then i ended up taking ted kennedy and his wife and two children as their escort translator to the soviet union in 1974. brian: i want to read what you said about jack. he was controlling, insanely jealous, and wanted me to be at his beck and call, regardless of my children and other commitments. he had an explosive temper and, when angry, would frequently keep me up most of the night. sleep deprivation became a constant part of my life. how did you deal with that? how was your way out? ms. kennan warnecke: in the end, leaving. i walked out the door. and this is partly

what may be become a photographer, i started studying photography, which jack hated because i -- because he would he could not call me up when i was in the photo lab. he would calmly five or six times a day, to make sure i was where i was supposed to be. up five or six times a day, to make sure i was where i was supposed to be. he was very fussy with dinners we put on. he wrote his staff a 18 things i had done wrong in the dinner. it was awful. brian: do you remember who that dinner was for? ms. kennan warnecke: i have no idea. we entertained. that is how he got clients. in those days, you get your

clients, there he often, from personal connections. brian: i have to ask you the same question as in the beginning. -- kennan warnecke: wide brian: why do you want people to know this? ms. kennan warnecke: the book is part of history. , a lot of goes back people do not realize we were allies with the russians. i also think the book is important because it is about a woman who graduated from college in the 1950's, when women had very few opportunities. she did not want to be a schoolteacher, library and, or nurse. there was not very much you could do. i went into the foreign service, and they did not take women. brian: they did not take any women?

ms. kennan warnecke: secretaries. but not women officers. i was interested in doing that. , but at a woman's college the president was a man, because you could not have a woman president. crazy, that a women's college had to have a man president. there were a lot of things that were very difficult for women. we have come a long way. brian: when was the first time in your life that you felt you were your own person, and not in the shadow of your father? ms. kennan warnecke: part of me has always felt in the shadow. he was so exceptional and totally that you never -- i always felt i could never live up to him or be good enough. movedthink it was when i over and was working so hard in russia and ukraine.

because i began to develop the jobs i had an the things i did had nothing to do with my father. brian: what did you do? ms. kennan warnecke: in russia, i spent four years -- i had always worked with men. i was usually the only woman. when i was president of my own consulting company, we worked in moscow, and the men would come up to me and assume i was the interpreter. they would say, where is your president? i am the president. it was a learning thing. my clients were always men. alliance ofthe american and russian women. it started at the time of the breakup of the soviet union. overdea was that the women there did not know about running your business. we would take american professional women over there

american and bring professional women to russia, and have conferences and teach people. it, i am ak on little embarrassed by how confident we were. we thought we knew better than them. our courses got a lot better, very quickly, when i realized what we were doing. brian: what is the story of the russia?n you were in ok, back toarnecke: the coup. i was with the alliance. we put on conferences in moscow. we were always looking for ways to save money, because the alliance was not well-funded. guesthouse up in a of the embassy on the other side of the river, it was a very

particular place to have chosen. place to have chosen. when the crew started, we did started, we did not know what was going on. we were running around moscow and we were told the embassy wanted everybody's passports. they wanted to know who was there. they were making plans to evacuate. it was very dramatic. we still put on our conference in the middle of that. about two thirds of the people came. it was unbelievable. -- the nextning was night was our train out of moscow. i was so eager to get the women on the train. 1978, you took joan buyouts -- biaz to russia.

ms. kennan warnecke: a friend was on the san francisco chronicle. she was supposed to be going over there with santana and the beach boys to do a big concert. i was chosen to find the right song for her to sing and to translate it into english. it was called the circle of friends. it was the perfect song, if i do say so myself. communists realized that santana and the beach boys were not with they wanted, they canceled the concert, two weeks before it was going to happen. but we are ready had our visas and were said to go. so i was very disappointed. i got a call a few days later from the chronicle, and was told joan wanted to go.

will you take us? all my life, i have had this trouble of jumping into things for which i am not really prepared. as usual, i said, yes, of course i can arrange that. but in the end, i did. brian: how? ms. kennan warnecke: joan did a lot of the work. her daughter lives in boston. she drew us maps. they had cleverly taken the number off of the building, so you could not find it. she had maps. we knew what building it was. she wrote the codes to get in the front door. when we got in, they had turned out all of the light in the hall so you could not see. we felt our way along the hall, feeling the doors.

i knew it was the seventh door down. we got there. at first, he was very interested in joan. she is a very political -- she has strong beliefs and was very political. she was trying to tell him how bad things were in chile. he was not interested in that. then she said, can i sing for you? she had the most beautiful voice. a glorious voice. she saying, and he melted. suddenly, everyone was best friends. suddenly, he was very sweet. he pointed to the armor above him and said, even they like music. brian: what about the money? ms. kennan warnecke: i got a when we were on the last

lap going into russia, he said, i think she has money in her guitar case. she was taking it to the bathroom. thinking weense, were probably smuggling money into russia and we could be in deep trouble. far, how had gone too can i back out at this point? so we were very lucky. to get around, waiting in line to go through customs, we ran into a well-known film director. him, so helated for knew me. joan was.o he said, instead of standing in this line, you get the vip treatment.

his father wrote the soviet national anthem, so he was well-regarded. he took us through customs. we got through so fast. there is that element in the soviet union. if you know the right people, rules do not apply. brian: do you know how much money she gave? ms. kennan warnecke: she did not give. she started to talk about it and i kicked her and said i'm a right it down. because i knew the place was bugged. woman inowed it to the charge, the leading figure. she said, no, we do not want any money. if she gives us money, we will go to jail. do not let her give us anything. brian: didn't your father find a microphone? ms. kennan warnecke: yes.

in the seal of the united states. it is in the spy museum in washington now. brian: how did he find it? ms. kennan warnecke: some security men came in and made him go to the residence and call his secretary, and tell her that he wanted her to dictate something to him. they had been trying to find this bug, and they suspected it could be turned on and off by remote control, which turned out to be the case. when it was off, it could not be detect it. so he dictated to his secretary in the room where the bug was. they turned it on to hear. brian: by the way, just for the heck of it, say three or four sentences in russian. [speaking warnecke:

russian] brian: a hard language to learn? ms. kennan warnecke: yes. learned it about five times, and finally it stuck. i learned it when i went to soviet school. brian: what age? ms. kennan warnecke: 12. brian: when was the last time you were in russia? ms. kennan warnecke: two years ago. brian: the change between early years in russia and now. ms. kennan warnecke: humongous changes. brian: give us some examples. ms. kennan warnecke: now, they are modern. they were very old-fashioned. andyou have fancy cars modern apartment buildings, all of the things that the original moscow i went to did not have.

people are much more traveled. more people speak english. now, even though the tv and press is controlled, people will talk quite openly. people will talk to you about things they do not approve of, or things they like. mad at theually mayor of moscow, or the governor. someone else takes the blame, not vladimir putin. i met him in 1991 in st. petersburg. he was deputy mayor. i was running my business consulting firm. i had a client who had something to do with the port of st. petersburg. i was meeting with the real mayor, he was called away and they substituted the deputy mayor, vladimir putin.

i was not meeting with the mayor, i knew vladimir putin had been cagey p -- kgb. i was negative about it all. he was equally negative. he did not want to meet with some american woman who was running a business. i think he was very suspicious of women. he had no gallantry. he had the coldest eyes i have ever seen. very big, blue, cold eyes. was, iould think of wonder what would happen if he was interrogating me? because i knew he was kgb. that sticks in my mind. i did not get what i wanted, by the way. brian: this is out of context, but i will show you some video of somebody that you knew years ago. this was an interview done in 1984. see if you remember this fellow.

>> i almost used to always felt democrat. -- vote democrat. think either candidate is worthy, i don't see any reason why i should vote for either of them. .rian: joe alsab where did you meet him? ms. kennan warnecke: he was a great friend of my family. he and my mother fought endlessly, but were very good friends. he stayed at our house in princeton. he was my escort when i was invited for the first time to go to the british embassy to go to the coronation ball of queen elizabeth. he had no interest in me at all. he was interested in all of the

political figures, not this young college women he had been settled with. ball, myot to the father saw i did not know anybody, and he came back and said, do you not know anybody? of course i did not. he said, you have to meet someone. he takes me over and introduces me to john kennedy. that is how i met president kennedy. he was not president then, but was in the senate. brian: what was his reaction to you? ms. kennan warnecke: i do not think he had much reaction to me. we went out in the garden, he wanted to sit down because i think his back was hurting, looking down on it. joe immediately sauce and became extremely interested in me. he of course wanted to talk to kennedy. it had nothing to do with me. i don't know how many years

was senator, he came to sacramento. there were about 30 people meeting, including my husband heard my husband said to me, do you want to go? i said, of course. we were at the airport and kennedy got off the plane. me, i was remembered at queen elizabeth's coronation ball. extraordinary memory. i had a different name. i was not grace kennan. the wife of someone in sacramento, you know. brian: your father died at 101 in 2005. if you read this book, what would he say? ms. kennan warnecke: i would not have written a book if he was

still alive. brian: why not? ms. kennan warnecke: i was quite hard on my mother. i would not have wanted to hurt her that way. she died in 2008. brian: what kind of relationship did you have with her at that point? ms. kennan warnecke: she loved me and i loved her. we made up. thrilledshe was so when i would come out to princeton. she had dementia, so for the last eight or 10 years of her life, she was not herself. knew yourwell as you dad, what you think he would say to you after reading this book? ms. kennan warnecke: i do not think he would like the personal parts. he would dislike those. i think he would be proud of the --t of it, but he would not he himself has written his memoirs. there is certainly nothing personal and their. went -- in there.

when the first volume came out, i was so excited. i looked myself up in the index. brian: were you in their? -- in there> ms. kennan warnecke: yes. it says a girl was born without incident. that is it. brian: what is your relationship with your three children? ms. kennan warnecke: i love them all. they are all very different. the two oldest live in california. charles has had a lot of problems with addiction. a very up-and-down wife. , lives with adair partner in same scope. lives with aay -- partner in san francisco. she is also gay. she is involved in a lot of

causes and looks after the family real estate. she is very easy and has a huge circle of friends. kevin, isy son, chairman of the board of :00 tea mccloskey-- newspapers. boardhe chairman of the in new york. ago andounded 43 years the mission was to promote a more realistic american foreign-policy. i do not think we have arrived. it still has a long ways to go. we do public programs. we have a membership thing. work indo a lot of southeast asia.

theave worked closely with chinese and taiwanese, bringing them together. things that are never advertised. brian: when was the happiest time in your life? ms. kennan warnecke: i am not very good at the happiest or saddest. brian: the favorite? ms. kennan warnecke: i think one of the happiest times is right now. -- addenly have the book lot of people are reading it and enjoying it and saying it is well written. i have fought a lot of uphill battles, and it is very nice to recognitionrt of when you never thought you would. "ian: the name of the book is daughter of the cold war" and our guest has been grace kennan warnecke. we thank you very much. ,s. kennan warnecke: thank you

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