qualifications to the extent they've been identified as a problem here we should be open to investigation in other contexts as well. >> the gentleman yields back end of thinto the committee stands n recess.

that is why ranking member doyle and i introduced the airwaves act, which does just that. it's my understanding a matter how ambitious we are in setting a schedule, there may be certain that the logical impediments to spectrum. off

what effect does that have on the commission's ability to keep up with the rest of the world in bringing more spectrum to market? part of the reason i had to answer knows because it wasn't going to be an auction we had to conduct -- it would be a feel good for 74,000 licenses or half a million licenses. we are not capable of running that with our software. people have asked for 24, 28, 37, 39 all at once, and we don't have the capability to run all of those at once. work they havee done. in terms of what we are capable of doing it should be much more dance for the money we are

spending on it. >> do other members of the commission have thoughts? >> we all know we want to lead the world in the wireless economy and 5g. i think it's a shame of our bureaucratic auction software doesn't allow us to do that. time, energy,mit and resources to fixing it. >> thank you, mr. chairman? ago i testified before the house and the senate and asked for resources specifically in part to upgrading our i.t. and allow us to do it much more quickly with this software. >> the commission has had the petition from the new jersey-based company, enterprise wireless alliance, before the commission in 2014.

put the itemt you out last august. as we approach the one-year mark can you commit to moving the item to notice a proposed rulemaking soon? >> i can say i'm working with addressingnd we are proposed rulemaking to follow up that you have inquired about. >> from a global competitor perspective we need to sure -- need to assure the u.s. wins the race to 5g. we need to bring conductivity to rural america as well. -- net to rural america as well.

if this dividend were in place over the last two auctions it would be used to fund rural deployment. this funding would not come from taxpayers and would be added to consumers. do you agree this provides the creative solution to the challenges of deploying rural broadband? >> i commend you for your leadership on that issue. in december of 2016i gave a speech which outlined my agreement with the evident proposal. redirecting that money could have a major impact. i want to continue to work with all members of the commission. i commend you for your public service. the ethics can meeting is meeting now.

but not about me, either. i commend theknow work of this very fine mostssion, one of the important agencies of the federal government. thank you chairman, blackburn. >> the gentleman yields back. you are recognized. >> it is great to be here today with all these folks. it's good to see you back on the commission. really appreciate the time you came into iowa and to baxter i want to talk about rural rod band. -- rural broadband. always eager to discuss of course how we can do about a broadband in ila -- in iowa and improve mapping data, that's my big topic today, to ensure we are getting resources to the right places.

i'm sure you know my bill that i worked on with representative costello. the rural wireless act passed and direct youar folks to improve and standardize ways the fcc collect's wireless coverage data so the maps accurately reflect wireless coverage. we talked about this before with northwest iowa, some of the problems you had when losing coverage. say it means to better maps and better resources for the areas truly in need. this isn't only about cell phones. mobile broadband is particularly important in areas. speaking and we need to get better maps and better data. i'm sure you all know that the

fcc will have 180 days after the conclusion of the mobility fund phase two auction to promulgate regulations in accordance with the wireless access act. nothing would stop you from doing that now i would argue, or at least sooner. that's because the ability to auction will send $4.5 billion out the door in primarily rural areas. now.ve to act we need better maps, you heard from congress we need better maps. but the work to create better maps hasn't happened yet and i think there is some frustration out there about that. i understand the commission has agreed to push back the mobility fund to auction the 90 days to in -- to allow the current data process to continue. i'm concerned the data may still not be fixed.

americall you rural needs this broadband. rather i think the commission could take the time to make these important funds called for. you say too often our procedures fall short of what governance requires. our mapping practices did not accurately reflect the state of connectivity on the ground. i think that is absolutely right. my question is to you, really. when working to advance government and best practices, do you think it makes sense for the fcc to move forward with the challenge process and we should be making the overhaul necessary in a more expedited way? >> we have a problem with wireless service in were america. and you cannot address problems

you cannot measure. we're basically asking the largest carriers whether they provide service in an area, and we have invited local officials and small wireless carriers to contest that data. but the process of contesting that data is cumbersome, it's difficult, it's long, it entails setting up an account and downloading 50 pages of , walking around multiple cornfields every kilometer and taking down information about signal strength and latency, and uploading that with the certification of an engineer. that is burdensome for most wireless communities to undertake. i'm worried about our mobility fund. respondld like you to as well, give you that opportunity. we inherited when i came into office was a free-for-all. any carrier could use whatever

technical standards they wanted, supplies whatever information it wanted. if we are going to distribute $4.5 billion of funding, i wanted -- under my leadership we started on a unanimous basis, a one-time data collection from ability to find out where coverage was and where it wasn't. that's why i appreciate the concept behind your legislation. we have extended the deadline to give all types of entities the ability to challenge. we have brought in the categories that can challenge, it's not just rural carriers. we have also attended waivers from everyone from senator joe manchin -- our own staff has done a lot of roadshows in nine states currently. oneave created a map with competitor to allow companies, anybody, and easier way to pinpoint areas that are right for challenge. all of the steps are complex.

is betters something than nothing and nothing is what we started with. i'm confident when we hold an auction, folks in my home state come everybody will be able to becauserage ultimately we did hardware collecting this data. >> thank you very much. >> broadband load -- this committee does yield back it's time. you are recognized. it was good, then it was bad, then it was good again. states diverting that money is a

messy ceiling from the fund in which they were paid into. i want to publicly thank you for that. named to the farm bill . we are on reasons there is a broadband appointment, and there are issues. how can we get the fcc, the our u.s. and the nta to work together so we are not duplicating functions, or we are actually working together to a dress broadband, connectivity, so every member mentioned that is part of as part of their discussion. i'm looking for advice and consultation so when i go in there can be more impact. >> there are extensive provisions in the house and

there is also the kind of program that was created as part of last year's budget bill. they have the potential to provide duplication with existing programs. the chairman has done a wonderful job working with different agencies. it requires consultation. us before alk to decision is made. doesn't get you prohibition on duplication, it requires a consultation. >> so we didn't know about the duplication. >> if you look at the house bill it is tony 53 compared to where we fund -- and i recognize the speeds and funding we do is what people would like. we are trying to stretch our dollars as far as we possibly can with 14 billion people that with 14 million people -- with 14 million people. that's my primary concern. i would be more than pleased to

work with you to tighten the language and make sure whatcation, coordination, rather than consultation. >> i appreciate that. alreadyone some work doing what we are trying to do, which is try to address on the environmental rules, not reinventing the wheel. and then you're going to put a 5g system on there. can you talk about what you have done in the commission so far on that aspect? >> thank you for your leadership on these issues, some of the legislation you have mentioned, there are a lot of great ideas. there is this global race to 5g. winning that race isn't just about getting the jenkin connectivity in new york or san francisco.

there are thousands of other communities that need their shot. there ise challenges how do we make the economic case to get small cells everywhere? by removing regulations, having them continue to apply to those approachd an updated makes a difference in extending 5g everywhere. >> let's finish with this part of the debate. in lower language we are directed to federal property and parkland issues. there is a perceived concerned by smaller municipalities that -- in the guise of rolling out 5g to take our .ight -- take away our rights have you had any of those debates and discussions? what are your thoughts about

that. whether it is county commissioners. these local officials deal with issues that the fcc will never deal with. they are going to get the call about it, not us. we share the same goal of getting more broadband deployed. >> mr. welch, you are recognized. comments to make three and discuss to topics. number one. are thank you for your passage on the act. i do commend you for your decision. important to find ways we can do things together.

and then the big opportunity for us is really essential. the two topics i want to speak about are the rural buildout. you can't assess something if you can't measure. what congress said in 1996 whether telecommunication capabilities being deployed to all americans in a reasonable and timely fashion. in 2016 the deployment report when you are serving on the -- it was critical to

build out. broadband to the american people and a reasonably and timely fashion. are not beingets met. rural america is being left behind. fast-forward to 2018 when the broad land -- broadband deployment report, this was under your leadership. they are now being deployed to all americans i reasonable and timely basis. said, the current fcc is now meeting its statutory theate to encourage deployment of broadband in a timely basis. it's to get the job done. to spell out some of the facts i understand be the case

and you can tum it whether you agree or disagree. point 4 million americans lack access to fixed broadband in speeds of 25 to three and the fcc standard, do you agree with that or not? do. >> 31% of americans lack access to the broadband service. accession americans lack to fixed broadband at 20 53 speeds and mobile lt broadband attend three speeds. >> i don't have any reason to suspect it's incorrect. >> we are in agreement there is a problem. i hope we are in agreement that your job is not to encourage, it's a get the point. you, i've heard you talk about what you see as of the regulation, including the elimination of nectar -- net neutrality.

let me be explicit, we could give you a 10 and you could write a revocation of every single regulation that exists. will that provide the financial incentive for broadband carriers to build on dirt roads in iowa and kansas, where there is one house every half-mile. >> this is a central problem. into many parts of the country there is no private business case. >> that's why regulations get it done where there are no market opportunity. >> look at the letter of detail we should be having. specifically they are spending millions of dollars --ause of these regulatory >> thank you for bringing up detail. what they said is there going to invest $4 million more. we have 100,000 people underserved in vermont.

indicate was't they were the recipient of a $130 million grant. that's relevant because it's public money into the broadband buildup. we have to get rural america wired, and every single day it's more important we do that. somehere has to be mapping, there has to be some bolstered universal fund. there has to be a promotion of local competition. --had some people in here to in here with local companies. i see my time is up, and i didn't even get to the homework,

which i applaud you for your work on. but this is a real ongoing problem. much for thevery fcc commissioners for being with here this with us here today. -- with us here today. block chain is changing the market and everyday life. we need widespread broadband for this technology. is the commission focusing resources on learning more about these emerging technologies and how critical broadband access is to this discussion? >> we are, congressman. thank you for that awful question. of professional interests thinking about these issues, starting in the fall of 2017. as part of the reason why i announced that the fcc would be hosting a forum for later this year.

particularly on the communications sector, because i think we're scratching the surface. focusk there is a useful in thinking how can distract communications. block chain connected vehicles and the like. both the depth and the breadth of these innovations. and how to make sure we are aware of these exchanges. the transformation has been tremendous but it will be even blowing. >> commissioner o'reilly, the to identify megahertz of new unlicensed

of 2022.by the end what steps will the commission take to free up much needed spectrum, consumer demand, for existing technologies and base fornnovations technologies of the future. com. o'reilly: also don't forget narrow band, i.o.t., very important. theour point on licensed, commission, with the chairman's great leadership, will move of things,a number including six gigahertz where hopefully, on assuming an mpm is adopted later to order and moved later this year provide additional spectrum for unlicensed purposes. rosenworcel and i have been working on 5.9 and placeting that could be a for unlicensed bands. rathergahertz is getting full, 2.4 is already full so

it's going to have to be a big consideration going forward. representative latta: commissioner carr, earlier this week the house passed the connectivity act and we have been hearing questions, ruralally about broadband, getting access out there. bipartisan bill i authored with my gentleman from which directs the commission to set up a task force in collaboration with the agriculture identifying measured gaps and broadband availability and developing policy to promote rapid broad band expectation on agricultural land. do you believe the commission can execute the requirements of agriculturen connectivity act? chairman pai: yes, i do. the intensive amount of data and in agriculture today is mind blowing.

moline, get outside of michigan, you see the high broadband usage from combines to drones taking detailed images. we need to find ways to get high-speed broadband for farmers ranchers. >> what degree will require technologies in wire line and wireless to meet the broadband precisionfor the agriculture. com. carr: ultimately a mix of technologies. fiber will work in some places, fixed wireless in other places. generationg you new of satellite technologies that can help so we'll have a lot of different technologies making last mile work. >> thank you very much. back the balance of my time. >> ms. dingell, you're recognized. rep dingell: thank you, madam chair. chairman pai, i want to begin

about yourd ask lack thereof to a letter we sent regarding the deedas attack that crashed the website during the net ortrality comment period what you told us crashed that. last year during a hearing we you indicated that you would follow up with the committee to provide information on what it actually happened. then in another hearing in october, you said, and this is the transcript, you had provided a detailed response to the committee and i to provide that to you with some of the particulars in that regard. the committee has never received it. we have not received it. to ahen you responded question for the record by saying you couldn't release the the committee. we've learned some information now since then we've learned pressnformation from the about this. but we still have a lot more

questions than answers and are waiting for a response. would you agree, chairman pai, that there's something wrong the committeef tasked with oversight of the f.c.c. learn about issues from press, when we have been asking about them for more than a year? therman pai: thank you for question, congresswoman. in consultation with the office following council, that hearing you referenced, the general counsel opined that we require a letter from the to share in order certain information because of some of the sensitivity of that information. should the committee issue such a letter, again, we would be accommodate. additionally, i want you to know that we have been working with accountable office as well as the office of inspector general at the f.c.c. issues and that has been ongoing for a number of months so the fact that you might not have heard a lot of news from the f.c.c. does not mean we have been working with tose independent bodies investigate these particular issues. rep dingell: i think this

we shouldwould think have some information on this so you are saying from the the fulltee chair, committee? who do you need to receive that letter from since you haven't enough of enough by us. chairman pai: my understanding from the general counsel is the committee --. is your definition of committee? does that mean mr. sloan? chairman pai: i believe so. rep dingell: i would like to continue. already some public information about the attack, would you commit to following up with the committee to providehis letter us with reports, request, memoranda, service logs related attack, the f.c.c.'s protocol for documenting it and tot steps you're taking mitigate events like this going forward. chairman pai: what i can tell is we have been working cooperatively with the office of inspector general. the inspector general has done a fantastic job investigating this

issue and i don't want to speak say i wouldi can expect him to issue more verymation on this in the near future. rep dingell: hopefully to a committee that has jurisdiction. chairman pai, let me ask you about a letter you were sent intog for an investigation whether companies improperly sold tv viewer data to cambridge analytica. you punted this matter to the s.e.c., which i disagree with, did a follow-up letter asking further questions about this decision. critical that the f.c.c. enforce privacy of the theunications act to fullest extent. ton can we expect a response this letter and why did the f.c.c. decline to conduct an investigation into this? chairman pai: we can only exercise authority that congress has dellicated to the agency. in this case, there were two authorities -- section 368 and and those authorities extend to cable operators and satellite

systems. neither tivo nor comscore is a satellite operator or cable we cannot exercise jurisdiction over them. you asked about the company dish and its provision of aggregate is an exception from statutory authority that does not allow us to exercise authority so it wasn't just a punt but recognition of reality under the current law that the federal trade commission can be and is authorized under section five of the act and other authorities to investigate this matter and that's why we referred it to them. cop on the privacy beat and we wanted them to look at this issue consistent with your request. rep dingell: i'm out of time. can't keep asking. >> mr. guthrie, you're recognized. you.ank this isn't necessarily directly something you've been working on and it's the skills

cap and apprenticeships. with susan davis from california on another committee. wireless infrastructure association came to see me and i believe you climbed a tower recently and to figure out,g how i.g. deployment could be skills by not having the of people, men and women able to 5g so i know i have 6500 open jobs in my community. up with some skill, some skill, it's easy to do a living wage, if you show up with you have a career. so i know that's an interest area.ou in terms of this could you talk about things you've worked into this area, what the skills cap is and you think we should be able to do to help close that? com. carr: thank you, and for your leadership on this issue. in sioux a cell tower falls, south dakota, demonstrating my own skills gap. -- inills gap comes to two places. when you look at the deployment

network, 5g,ation thousands of small cells. right now we potentially don't have the work force in place work.an do that the commitments to of -- -- deploymentof of it, and in terms of where you set up the antenna for coverage. we also see it in communities being able to have the skills take advantage once the place.ions are in i was in detroit at the school either low-income people, people released from prison, the training and job skills they need to take advantage of the digital economy. to your point, i think there's more we can do on the side, streamp lining efforts to make it easier for people to move into this space. i've done ernst events with the department of labor geared that.s guthrie: also, chairman pai, act,e ray bonds myselfswoman matsui and

myself -- my question is for you o'reilly, youer both brought that to our attention. are you seeing any other the auction mechanics that may need streamlined, to make the options go better? chairman pai: we consulted with and hadcounsel something happened to commissioner carr on that tower the f.c.c. still would have had a quorum. are soiously, we grateful to you and congresswoman matsui and the fixing thatn problem. as i look at our legal authority, we have sufficient withrity at this point exception of the budgeting issues i talked about earlier to sure we can conduct expeditious way. com. o'reilly: i don't think it's a question of authority. i think it's a question of what does very well which is oversight, following up, making sure that the option

software is advanced to meet goals of the future. guthrie: thank you for your gigahertz one six your testimony. would you like to elaborate on the need for this spectrum and frame you expect to see -- what time frame you expected see for the mprm? could you be more specific than just the fall? com. o'reilly: absolutely. the predominant bands that i 5ntioned before, 2.4 and gigahertz are congested so we more unlicenced spectrum to the portfolio for the benefits they bring. six gigahertz is what i consider the second best option for unlicensed spectrum next to 5.9. hoardhave been working that and it's difficult to come to resolution but six gigahertz can movemething we forward quicker. whichthe uplink to c-band

has the other component that the subcommittee has talked about earlier. timing, of the point on that is something that the chairman -- i don't want to get ahead of him but i think that have mprm this fall time frame. com. rosenworcel: i agree with what my colleague said. unlicensed spectrum has ourorically been scrap in airwaves. we need more wi-fi in our skies and we have opportunities in the 5.9 gigahertz span and 6 gigahertz span and it's time to them. rep guthrie: i yield back. >> gentleman yields back. mr. mcinerny, you're recognized. chairinerny: i thank the and commissioners for your work. it can't be that easy. chairman pai, it's been two we learned about the vpn filter, russian link malware that can be used to

steal information and block network traffic. thousands or more routers have been compromised yet consumers either know it or they've been left wondering if their router to taketed and how action. these are routers lended from isp's. isp's have athat responsibility to inform routers about no one vulnerabilities? chairman pai: we want to ensure that consumers get the need.ation they isp's havey: do the responsibility? chairman pai: i would hope they consumers.m is the f.c.c. doing anything to help consumers update their routers? chairman pai: i have to be a little bit circumspect on this issue. comment on things that

have classification but we'd be happy to work with you. mcnerny: is the f.c.c. doing anything to protect customers from issues with routers? chairman pai: we do monitor equipment.hreats to rep mcnerney: commissioner rosenworcel, do you think the in protectingole consumers from cybersecurity threats? com. rosenworcel: yes, i also equipment authorization process is of note. those routers have to be authorized by the agency because they use radio frequency. we could look at using our part certify and notify consumers of malware or cyber risks associated with their use. rep mcnerney: the investigation fake comments submitted to the f.c.c. in the net neutrality

proceeding and i understand the general istorney investigating, as well. as it stands, we know that at least two million of these fake.ts are russian emailom addresses. itmissioner rosenworcel, is your view the f.c.c. has been cooperating with law enforcement agencies? com. rosenworcel: i do not believe we have been cooperating with law enforcement agencies, i think that's a problem. two million people's identities were stolen in our record. that is a federal crime under title 18 and is a crime under states. we should be referring these matters to state attorneys the department of justice. rep mcnerney: commissioner pai, your officere that will cooperate with these investigations? chairman pai: we have been cooperating with the accountability office. i proactively have announced weently in a letter that would be changing our process to ensure that some of the issues that arose last time, for example, 7.5 million comments in

support of title 2 using fake gen later, 400,000 comments from an address in russia, to things don'tse happen. we're exploring options assuming funds.the help from the i'm waiting for reports, memoranda related to the attack on the comments system, requesting these documents multiple times and hope they'll you'll provide them time soon. chairman pai: to follow up on my response to congresswoman dingell, we have been working with the inspector general. he's done a fantastic job and stay tuned, they will be issuing information. meantime, in consultation with general counsel, we require a letter from the committee in ofer to supply certain types information that you are seeking. anymcnerney: are there steps you're taking now to

prevent comments from being manner that would impact proceedings? chairman pai: yes, sir, we are with our career staff and office of managing others, solutions and mechanisms to ensure the integrity of our proceedings. we inherid in january 2017 was designed to be a fully process anyone can participate in but we want to be sure it is one that respects the integrity of the f.c.c.'s processes and confirms the work.sness of our rep mcnerney: i'm concerned changes toroposed the lifeline program and worry it could widen the digital and be a setback for vulnerable populations like veterans. changes, could you give me an idea how that might affect veterans? com. rosenworcel: i appreciate question. im, in fact, the daughter of an air force veteran. 1.3 million veterans in this country that rely on the

lifeline program today and at behest of senator mccain and blumenthal we expanded the to include the veterans pension program so more veterans when theyicipate so finish their service, they can civilian life and have the communications necessary to do so. offensive ifuld be this agency decided to cut them service.communications >> gentleman yields back, mr. olson, you're recognized. olson: i thank the chair and welcome to the four leaders of f.c.c. tex ansbach home want me to thank you for staying internet.hriving they're grateful for your actions to stop the false net the previousles of administration. my found out firsthand what former boss, texas senator phil

about killing a bad government program or rule. easier to kill a vampire than a bad government program, persevered and now the deader thane is elvis. it's hurricane season. to thank you for coming down within days after harvey to help us with our telecommunications system. year is noty this like last year. marie, fires. we have to be prepared. can you update us on what the to prepare for disasters this year? chairman pai: thanks so much for and thank you for hosting me when i was in houston after hurricane harvey. we're doing a number of things sure our networks are as resilient as possible and

restoration is as quick as possible. funding, we've extended funding to make sure in puerto rico and the virgin islands, for instance, that we can restore networks as quickly as possible and we've extended a number of waivers and streamlining orders to make sure carriers can focus on rebuilding networks, instead of paperwork. we've engaged in a number of experiments, for example, experimental license to google, and in a situation like that, we don't care what get peopleis used to back on the grid. we want them to get back on. additionally, we have been ouring to make sure wireless emergency system is much more resilient. we've talked about some of the steps there but we're making are more targeted, more informational and consumers don't tune them out. one specific to you, a lot of people don't think about this. 33 trillion gallons of water were dumped in your part the wake of hurricane harvey. that had a huge impact on those

area that only had copper lines in the ground. under severees water pressure and exposed to utterly useless. those areas of houston that had fiber were more resilient -- the towers doesn't go down or the networks stayed up altogether. that's important when we talk copper retirement rules and nitty-gritty wire line reforms that we've got, there's huge public safety benefit to doing this. i think it's important to keep in mind. all of the issues we have been talking about previously have a public safety dimension i think we have recognize. rep olson: thank you for all those warnings that came over, floods, swamped all systems. with your work it's targeted to where it is as opposed to county, it's a city, and that's a big deal because we were spammed after days of these

alerts going off. thank you for making that happen. commissioner carr, you've been leading the f.c.c. in finding government reduce slowing 5g deployment. toizon has announced plans launch 5g in houston, texas, later in year. your workll me how will expedite this work in houston? com. carr: thank you very much for the question. see houston will be on the leading edge of getting 5g. that's something we want to across the country so we have reforms we've taken that will reduce the cost of deployment. make a bigg to difference, particularly in costly, difficult-to-serve areas. we have a be in of ideas we're looking at at the commission. i want to follow up on your earlier question. the harrisuston at county 9-1-1 center and saw the great work that they were able responses ton hurricane harvey. olson: for commissioner pai, as you probably know from my

i spent nine years in the navy, lieutenant commander, a leader in the navy. leader of this f.c.c., this commissioner. member who's climbed up a cell tower. as a leader, don't you think you and climblow his lead up a cell tower, as well, somewhere in south dakota, maybe? aairman pai: that was curveball i was not prepared for, congressman. commissioner carr is younger and more nimble than i nonetheless, i will put my own life at risk to ascend tohaps a 10-foot tower inspect a small cell somewhere ready.ton once >> and the gentleman will not only go with you, he will climb the tower. ms. matsui, you're recognized. rep matsui: thank you very much, them chair, and welcome to paggists. panelists. the tower"e a "climb question. on my to follow up on

co-chair, brett guthrie, talking about six gigahertz. understand the exphition planning to move forward with mprm to open up the bands for unlicenced use in the fall. what interference protection to mitigation techniques such as frequency, coordination, could incumbents in unlicensed operations in this band? com. o'reilly: thank you. making sixested in gigahertz available for put forwardse have engineering studies said to show harmful interference would be minimal and have recommended a number of mitigation efforts to mprmplored as part of the this fall. com. rosenworcel: we have before studies like my colleague referenced. the most important thing we can

do is put this out for a rule to make it possible for 6 gigahertz band to be used for unlicensed service in the near future. rep matsui: last week i i'm working on legislation to direct the department of commerce to convene a working group of industrynd stakeholders to develop a consensus based definition of chain. particularly potential applications in communications networks including iot deployments and spectrum sharing. next generation networks including 5g, cable, radios, ensuree opportunity to spectrum is being used as efficiently as possible but no commonurrently definition of block chain which itsd potentially hinder in deployment and spectrum use thes where share may be only viable option. commissioner rosenworcel, what chain haveould block in increasing spectrum efficiency? com. rosenworcel: thank you for

forwardtion and being thinking about this. i've written pieces where i've pointed out that spectrum is a scarce resource. we need to come up with more efficient ways to distribute it licensedn traditional and unlicensed regimes and using distributed ledger technology like block chain could make that possible. we could see dynamic leasing, we could see light weight leasing and more innovative uses of the resource so i think what you're describing is the right way to go. rep matsui: thank you. i want to move on to the c band. i comment the f.c.c.'s work to 4.2tify the 3.7 to gigahertz band as a potential core mid-range band for next generation networks. this band has propagation characteristics that make it for reliable satellite distribution and particularly valuable 5g mobile networks. earlier thisoved month recognized that the commission has insufficient information on incumbent

berations that may need to protected in the band. mprm's soughthe additional information on additional uses of c band as previouss well application and filing freeze. work to pai, how is the gather additional information on incumbent users going? you for the: thank question, congresswoman. it's going well in part because extended the time and the latitude that some of these folks have to register with us. extended the time frame by 90 days until october 17. the fees andined reports required for them to be able to report so at the end of we hope tois fall, be able to come to you to let you know that we have a more of where these stations are in order to allow a fullyoceed to informed decision about the fate of the c band. matsui: i offer to

facilitate deployment of next networks in a congressionally mandated preference, i'm interested in make sure we're using spectrum more efficiently and innovatively. 2004, the f.c.c. considered ice role that opportunist access systems to play in leasing arrangements. interested in a legislative framework that would further facilitate the opportunity for coordinate with the f.c.c. and allow federal agencies to lease spectrum to users.ial commissioner carr, and i know there's not much time, how do you believe additional spectrum couldg arrangements balance certainty and deployment needs on commercial providers and government users? com. carr: thank you for the question and leadership on spectrum issues. right, we need to put more tools on the table, more options on the table and should be exploring all ways to more spectrum out there for consumer use.

rep matsui: thank you. my work on this committee, i have been focused to expanding to tele house services and i thank you, commissioner carr, for your focus on that. i yield back. mr. johnson, you're recognized. rep johnson: thank you, madam to ourn and commissioners, thank you all very much for being here. year,an pai, earlier this congress provided funding to ntia. thealked a little bit about mapping issue. we've provided that funding to broadband national map in coordination with the f.c.c. coordination effort going and do you believe that a process that uses state and data in addition to the material the commission collects from the form 477 render a useful map? chairman pai: i appreciate the question and your leadership on issue. i've spoken to the administrator ntia about this issue and our

staffs have been in touch to make surertise to we're on the same page in terms of the need for mapping. in terms of the second part of your question which now i've forgotten. sorry. johnson: do you believe the process that uses state and material on the 477 process, will render a more accurate and useful map. chairman pai: our hope is that it will and in the meantime what we've done under my leadership start a comprehensive review of the form 477 process to make sure the information we as granular as is feasible and as useable as possible for all. who need it including others.ngress and rep johnson: i know you know and i think the other commissioners isee that an accurate map important and i appreciate what you said about not reinventing the wheel. rocket science. we ought to be able to produce a

be able toought to produce a map very quickly. the startingap is point for solving this problem and it's just been a -- it's just beensue that has dragging and dragging and dragging. do totever you folks can encourage and push that along, to rural is important areas where we're suffering with loss, theal capital real. being very pai,man chairman cybersecurity is an issue for our country and there's debate over which commission should take the lead on cybersecurity. i know that the telecommunications industry works routinely with the department of homeland security. and conversations that occur d.h.s. are held in

by statute. that information encourages critical and confidential information which we all agree is the best way to our communications systems. i understand. however, that same statutory do not exist at the f.c.c. so are you concerned that the could work at.s. cross purposes, which may undermine cybersecurity? chairman pai: great question, congressman. is a critical issue and it seems every week there's a new story that draws our attention to that fact. to report that over the last year and a half we've had a close and productive relationship with the department of homeland security. d.h.s.rning i spoke with about cybersecurity issues that have popped up so we certainly want to make sure we're on the same page there. our role under current law is to acted under more of a consultative fashion with d.h.s.

should congress see fit to change the law, currently the only arguable source of section one of the communications act which doesn't operative authority as well as section -- but should change the law, we would administer it to make sure theorks are secure and in meantime i'll work clob d.h.s. and other members of the intelligence community to reinforce as an important issue. rep johnson: 5g. the united states won the race 4g, increased our economy by drove in0 billion and an increase in wireless reported jobs. because of that leadership, the wireless industry supports over 4.7 million jobs and contributes the u.s.on annually to economy, according ting that

accenture report. should the gox to ensure that we maintain our global lead so that all of those economic and job benefits continue to occur here in the u.s.? chairman pai: congressman, exactly what we are doing, being spectrum, holding the 28 and 24 gigahertz options and 37 options next year. 3.7, 6 at other bands, gigahertz and others. in terms of infrastructure, we our to modernize regulations to incentivize the construction and use of small antenna systems and guts of the future 5g systems. recently came from two conferences, one in switzerland, one in panama. to hear from regulators everywhere around the world from evenia to guyana to trinidad and tobago to fiji tell us they're looking to the united for leadership, because,

as one regulator said to me, you it right and we follow your leaded on this 5g issue. reinforces the fact that we are doing the right thing. lack.tleman yields erby: thank you, madam chairwoman. welcome to the commission. rosenworcel said nine months is a school year. it's also the length of time that it takes for a child come into this world so it's been a while. it's been a while. welcome back. i want to -- i want to set the straight on a couple of things first. it's been said that people are opinions butheir not their own facts. todayeen cast about here that it is somehow a fiction my republican friends androyed net neutrality wiped out privacy on the

internet. that's not fiction. that's a fact. december 14, 2017, the upend the voted to net neutrality rules that were in place and that had been court.in nonetheless, that was rescinded. 2017, c.r.a. went sweeping through this committee was authored by our chairwoman, went through the committee, went like a prairie fire through the house of representatives. and removed all privacy protections from the internet. i know what i voted on. obviously i voted no. voted yes. but to say that these things are a rumor, where people are referring to them and is simply not, fact. so i want to really set that

down. because i think it's important, too. mr. chairman, i want to quickly up on congressman mcnerney's question where he whether the asked f.c.c. is cooperating with law enforcement agencies, et cetera. is that referred to the bureau or to the commission? chairman pai: i'm sorry, is what? eshoo: the investigations, know,ow, referring -- you the violations? is that a referral to a bureau on that sore does -- or does the full commission acting on that? chairman pai: the letter was referred to our office of general counsel. rep eshoo: what does that mean? what i want to know has there referral to a law enforcement agency. i think that's what congressman you but you asked talked about the g.a.o., i think

the f.t.c., i don't know the ig, so -- have you referred these violations to a law enforcement agency? know, what i'd like to yes or no? chairman pai: congresswoman, we with theulted department of justice. eshoo: have you asked for investigation of it? chairman pai: that's a department of justice issue. rep eshoo: i don't think you want to answer the question. i just want a yes or no. chairman pai: to the extent we have jurisdiction, we've worked the office of inspector general. eshoo: i think i know what your, quote, answer is. i want to get to something and i have much time and it probably is going to be more of else.ement than anything it's been said that we have 24 that eithericans

have no broadband service or slow broadband service in the country. us.e on all of a five-year-- there plan at the f.c.c. on this? some of it may belong in the private sector. of it you need authority congress and our subcommittee, other actions, the commission can take. but when that's stitched we have solved this issue. every time the commission comes of our subcommittee overngs, we go over and and over and over this issue and better soetting any can someone enlighten me on this? yes, commissioner? com. carr: in fairness, the commission has spent an incredible amount of work on this.

we've done the easy stuff, easy locations. we're working on what i would consider medium locations. an ongoing option for the cafes to option. what's left over from that from return, areas that aren't served under our program hardest.l be the will that knock out of the park? com. o'reilly: it's 14 if you -- 24 million don't count the satellites serving 10 million people today 25.3.233 but it -- we are working on hard areas, remote areas that need to be set additionaleed nawnged -- that we don't have that requires contributions from congress and dollars or additional payersutions from rate to the likes we haven't seen

before. eshoo: thank you very much. chairwoman: and the lady yields back. >> i welcome the commission and chairman. chairman, thank you for coming to my area and speaking to my constituents. i appreciate it very much. chairman pai, again, while you were in tampa, the tampa bay reviewou were able to the testing, the charter was doing, charter communications was doing in and around the district. in particular, they're conducting trials in the 3.5 bands which is showing promise faster rurald coverage. bande same time, the 3.5 is utilized by federal radar system which is is used by the navy and coast guard on the gulf coast of florida as well as other areas. sensingronmental capability, e.s.c., has been these federalure uses are not interfered with

while also allowing shared with industry in preparing the 5g enabled technology. provides a great industry andor competition as long as we ensure federal systems remain secure. is the status of e.s.c. implementation and interference sensitivity standards. chairman pai: thank you for the question, congressman and the me inality you showed tampa. i'm excited about the possibilities of 3.5 gigahertz spectrum in part because of the trial you showed. to be able to see how charter is using and how others potentially use the spectrum to provide a seamless high definition video experience down the road, simple application but powerful for consumers. the e.s.c. is a critical part of happy to report that we are actively working with both ntia and department of defense on the testing. the testing is very complex so i

definitive time frame on what it will be completed or what results might working as're quickly as possible to wrap up testing to enable e.s.c. to allow shared use of this valuable resource. bilirakis: very good. commissioner o'reilly, i know you're leading the charge on 3 poign 5. do you have anything to add? com. o'reilly: i agree, there's two parts, the task that deals and themercial users e.s.c., the federal users. briefed yesterday it looks like things are lining up nicely and i don't want to get ahead of q1 of nexti think year is not irrational if not earlier. thingsoping to do some that i can't speak of but hopefully announce things regarding later this year and soon after so i think things are lining up nicely along those decisions but can i go back, you

regardingthe point charter. to get back to congressman doyle's point regarding senses charter has advocated a different position. senses --'t favored census tracts but counties so are different positions census tracks. those that have favored census tracks have not yielded. commonality find amongst these positions. i thought i'd bring that up. rep bilirakis: thanks for the update. d.c. circuit court issued its opinion on the telephone act.mer protection in particular, this ruling analidated the definition of auto dialer and also did away commission's reassigned number and safe harbor rules.

in light of this opinion, what action is the f.c.c. taking to definitionalid tcpa and rules that target bad actors but do not put everyday risk to lawsuits? commissioner -- mr. chairman, that?u address chairman pai: i'd be happy to. we are still actively studying the opinion.f we are working with our staff key issuesrd on identified. the definition of auto dialer, of database, replication consent and the like. i can't give you specific time actively we are looking at a variety of tcpa d.c.s result of the opinion. realm bilirakis: madam chair, i but i'llmore question yield back my time and submit it for the record. chairwoman: the gentleman yields back. mr. flores, you are recognized. rep flores: thank you.

you oncompliment something. i think the commission has done an excellent job taking the statutory authorities you've gotten from congress and to of 5g.ate the rollout based on what i've seen from space, we'rethis much more quickly than i would have envisioned. fixedgoing to have wireless 5g in houston as a test case at the end of this year, amazing when you talk about speeds up to three to 10 gigabits. that's amazing. good work on getting that done. that also sets the stage for roll outctive way to rural broadband eventually and appreciate the work to take care people thatllion have been widely talked about during the hearing. commissioners pai and o'reilly uboth touched in your testimony doing in termse of the making spectrum available

entailsnd part of that the f.m. radio stations that were left out during the original legislation. bill that deals with that was the raybaum act. you have moved quickly to have august 2. can you give us a preview of what we can expect in that regard? chairman pai: i certainly hope we'll see a unanimous vote next week on my proposal but i don't want to speak for my colleagues but it's important for us to take that authority you gave us getrun with it quickly, public input to protect radio result of the incentive option. rep flores: moving on to another subject. one of the biggest complaints -- myceiving from thigh

constituency, which is generally upset about robo calls. i don't think that's come up today. steps you all are taking to stop spoofing phone numbers but can you give us an update on where we stand? who owns that among this group? all the pai, you get big ones, don't you? chairman pai: thanks for the question. this initiative frustrates me. when i was on vacation, i spent several minutes on a phone with several trying to figure out how they got my information. we're doing a lot. over the last year and a half since i've been in office, we've inquiry onotice of call authentication, digital left thents and private sector group, the nancy, call syndication. we're looking to block spoofed be from your to area code. taking --ly, we're also the reassign number

database to allow legitimate callers to know whether or not a number is assigned to someone who doesn't want to be called and taking aggressive enforcement action. the largest fine imposed in the f.c.c.'s history was against a robo caller in florida, $120 million. dollarsal multimillion signs there, too. i've spoken with counterparts abroad because a lot of robo operations come from other countries and our jurisdiction stops at the water's edge and largely they've been willing to cooperate with us on that. repertoirees: what statutory -- do you need additional statutory thisrity to fight epidemic? chairman pai: i think we have fairly broad authority but if usgress is willing to give more tools in terms of statutes of limitation and the like, we onld love to work with you that. rep torres: let us know. spectrum of 5.9 gigahertz was set aside for dedicated short range src.unications or d

that is part of the spectrum that could be used for trucking, autonomous vehicles, vehicle to vehicle communications. other people want to use that for unlicensed wi-fi and things try to offload some data transmission from the sailor bands. bet this section seems to congested or subject to future congestion. what do you see for the future 5.9 gigahertz part of the spectrum. question,ai: good congressman. commissioners have been this.ting for we are working actively with our office of internet technology at the f.c.c. along with the ntia, ofsa, department transportation and others to figure out the way forward. right now we're in phase one of the testing. there's a report in draft mode

we've shared with federal partners and hope to move soon.d on that ultimately, this has to be a collaborative effort. there are many different agencies, different equities but we want to make the highest use of the spectrum. have more: i stakeholders at home working on this, trying to design a futureg system of the and they're worried about what happens in those bands. we'll send supplemental you.ions for chairwoman: mr. collins, recognized. collins: thank you, madam chair. commissioner o'reilly, i want to spend my time talking about the diversion, fee integrity effort. a peace app in niagara county which does not latest technology, they're frustrated and they don't have the moneys to get visit,nd because of your we got a lot of press on this and shined a light on the new

york state's diversion. gete just for the record to this out there, new york has 20ut 13 million cell phones, million people. that makes sense. little kids may not have them. state set their own fee, new york set the highest fee in the $1.20 per month for the cell phones, raising $185 million for the 9-1-1, what's 9-1-1ed to be for the service. but what our bill would forbid divertingk state's about 40% of that money to the general fund to be wasted in albany. that's about $75 million a year. it should be going to upgrade peace apps like we have in niagara county, in woeful need of it. money's being frittered away in albany. $75ur bill would put that million back on the table not only for new york, new jersey, others that seem to have no interest short of

forbid thisat would and i will tell you most of the folks in our district were to know that the 9-1-1 service charge that's on their was phone bill every day not all going for 9-1-1 service. a subtractionave diversion.k state the 9-1-1 fee and then new york state diversion. visit was well received in a bipartisan way. certainly all of the counties funds,re struggling for they want to know when a call comes in, who's calling, where so they cantantly dispatch people, that everything is moving together. aresome of these peace apps decades old and in some cases erie county, where i live, you know, there's literally a dozen or more peace apps. even consolidated within the county because the

wantsf's department theirs, the city police wants their, the fire issues -- even though all the cell phone calls one place and there's not many land lines, people are somewhat protective of it. to thank you for helping us shine a light on this forward,rther put this niagara county, where we were, we've done research since then. they've last five years paid $10 million -- this is not a large county. million has gone into albany $1.20 per phone and while new york state 40%, that still should have left $6 million to come county but since each state makes its own rules, new york state, i think, tends the downstate areas. toy $2 million came back niagara county so they paid in $10 million with their residents isnking this $10 million supposed to help our peace app in niagara county.

only $2 million came in. i can assure you, if that other statelion or even if the diverted, if the remaining $4 in, they woulde have upgraded that peace app. residents would be safer. those working in those peace apps, which is a hard, would feel job, better when they go home at night. just wantur input, i to point out, again, one of the dongs that this bill would is to have the state not only we would haveut the f.c.c. better define what would be a use, the minute they they may say,, well, public safety, we'll fix that pothole over here. no, this is in need of some federal oversight and again, if want to make a couple of comments, i know i burned up most of the clock but i wanted in on the record. mr. o'reilly? com. o'reilly: i can't think you

enough for your leadership. home in niagara county. your point is well taken in terms of $10 million and getting $2 million. consumers in my home town are paying theit twice, 9-1-1 fees being diverted and then higher local residential taxes where budgets are coming from so niagara county, property taxes went up to fund the extra $8 million shortfall so they're hit twice on this and new york made clear they have no intention of changing this. rhode island has no intentions of solving their problem. new jersey, i was talking to folks from guam, the same issues. we have work to do on this front and would love to continue to work with you and your leadership. rep collins: you shined the light on this. this is also not a partisan issue. chairwoman: gentleman yields back, mr. cost low, you're recognized.

costello: thank you. i've done my best to delve into very issues and they're sophisticated, the things each of you deal with on a day-to-day basis and i commend each of you your expertise and time you dedicate to our country and to industry. and to the for trying to get it right. with that, i want to ask o'reilly ar question. some of my colleagues on the other side of the dais today articulated their interest in giving the f.c.c. more of a presence in cybersecurity issues. while the concern is well founded, it's my understanding f.c.c. is not and should not play a lead role, i role, on, lead identifying and mitigating these vulnerabilities. the f.c.c. has a long tradition deferring to expert agencies in the executive branch with the relative intelligence and national security expertise. for example, the f.c.c. routinely refers applications

an transfers of licenses to informal working group in the executive branch, team telecom, to review the transactions. do you believe the f.c.c. has tothing new or unique to add our nation's cybersecurity work or do the intelligence and agenciessecurity currently have a good handle on these issues? com. o'reilly: i have to be careful in terms of what i can say in public but i do believe the authority has been provided by congress so it's not theuestion, it's in statute, who congress gave authority to, was to other agencies besides the f.c.c., on issue of cybersecurity. so that is not something that i believe we have great authority to act. if congress changes that authority, that is one thing. but i do believe that we work well with what is as you were referenced, team telecom. reform teameed to telecom and i've advocated believeto that but i do we do not have the primary role

add.ave functions to reforms you've advocated, does that contemplate you have existing expertise that be led if the statute was broadened to lead you to do that? changes isly: the telecomhanges to team and addressing the timing and making sure the interaction between the texas and team telecom is beneficial. we have applications that sit at under the last administration for a long time period, problematic for those that have applied. it doesn't mean we're the national security. rep costello: so you would agree cybersecurity is an important feel placingnot more judicious within the f.c.c. exercise the f.c.c. additional jurisdiction would be

well placed because we have agenciesintelligence already fully capable of doing that and the f.c.c. does not additional to add, is that correct? did i say too much? com. o'reilly: there's a lot to -- i would agree an awful lot said but we would continue to have conversations with those entities but i think they have a great deal of authority and are capable of providing us the information as it relates i do have a question for commissioner car. telehealth, it hose beneficial -- x potential benefits, but on america,s for rural what can we expect to come out program?ree-year pilot

was sort of job creation can enroll families expect from telehealth technologies? >> thanks so much for the question. these are some of the things that we want to tee up. we have seen significant cost savings. diabeticam, 20% of the population and rolled that program and saved $189 million in terms of the state's medicaid expenses. >> very good. anyone else to add on that? >> i agree with everything commissioner carr said. -- newt min and i now and i wrote an op-ed.

of the casest some we identified, schools in kentucky for the first time are able to treat students because there are no future visions in all of al in county, kentucky. if you look at florida and idaho where they are providing consultations around the country, what you see what they are doing in collaboration with private and public sectors, we can improve health outcomes for millions of americans. we are scratching the surface. onnding a lot of money emergency room visits, if we do proactive health treatments for some of these folks, we can save a lot of money for the system, but more importantly, save lives and improve outcomes. >> seeing that there are no further questions -- >> i bought you guys another five minutes. you are welcome. >> you are recognized. >> thank you for being here and

your service to the country and all you do. i introduce the fcc transparency act, to publish on the website any documents to be voted upon days. 21 it is the codification of the most important aspects of the transparency process currently at the fcc. yount to ask each of you do support the current transparency processes in place at the fcc and, by extension, do you support the fcc transparency act? >> absolutely, thank you for your leadership. >> i agree wholeheartedly with your bill. >> yes and yes. i think it codifies good government and is a step in the right direction. >> yes, it is placed in our monthly agenda meeting. >> your actions to roll back the so-called kid vid rose is born out of the recognition that

there is so much choice today in children's programming. garmin --ue that the the government need not mandate programming to anyone out let? tv and i would argue that competition and consumer choice have never been greater, not only for children's programming, buffer a lot inches. briefly summarize your -- all -- but for all audiences. briefly summarize. your ideay issue with of rollback, we are try to provide more flexibility in the kid vid issue. the market has changed dramatically since 1990 when the act was enacted. sec were pute the in place in 2004, modified extensively. the world has changed and we have a broader market place for children's programming. it is not just your three

broadcast channels on saturday morning. it is a plethora of cable options and a ton of options for those over-the-top. what's been concern that about the family that does not have any of that except for the broadcast market. given the opportunity for broadcasters to move the signal to have in the primary channels today to a multicast channel so programming will still be available to over the air only households. >> thank you. bipartisan -- he there's a cultural divide between urban and rural. broadband access allows people to participate in digital commerce which provides a convenience to our rural constituents but while bolstering their economy.

my fellowroud that caucus cochairs and i.s. for and received robust resources for rural broadband infrastructure -- and i asked for and received robust resources for rural broadband infrastructure. o'reilly, you focused on the various funding streams allocated toward rural broadband. we all want to bridge the digital divide, but i'm sure you're concerned about the funding among agencies. we want to be sure not to be redundant. do you have ideas on how these agencies can better coordinate and how best the government can subsidize the areas that are currently served? i really appreciate the

effort, the commendable effort in terms of the pilot program created, and efforts that are ongoing in the farm bill's today. very beneficial. what you to get highlighted, no duplication, that speeds do not become a mechanism to overbuild. i think there's a way to draft that. language that has been provided did not quite get there. >> i will make a point where -- versus asking a question. on the issue of stingrays or devices have these been located around sensitive areas. we have made multiple requests about how to deal with this issue. , would like to make the point whether it is fcc or other agencies, encourage everybody to work together how to address the situation. i think it is a concern from a

national security perspective and it ought to be addressed. manager, i thank you and i yield back the balance of my time. madam chair, i thank you and i yield back the balance of my time. >> before we conclude, i ask unanimous consent to enter the following documents into the record. from the credit union national association, a letter from the utilities technology council, a letter to the fcc on diversion, a health blog post, a letter to the fcc on tcp a letter from anthem and its affiliated health plans, a gao report on lifeline. without objection, so ordered. mr. doyle. i would like to make unanimous consent to add to the wreck of the letter from wireless isps to the fcc regarding the cd rvrs ban.

letter. >> without objection, so ordered. pursuant to committee rules, members have 10 business days in which to submit additional questions. and we remind you that you have 10 business days in which to respond. seeing no further business to come before the committee, the committee is adjourned. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2017]

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