recent piece examining a provision of the new tax law that allows investors and race taxons to a obligations by investing in america's most impoverished communities. -- the race -- erasae -- the senate remains in session today and the house is out for its summer break. spokesperson for georgia democrat john lewis says he is out of the hospital. he fell ill saturday while flying home to atlanta. and our first hour we will discuss the autonomy and specifically what you think the president is saying of the current state of the economy. but trump administration took credit for the announcement of 4.1 gdp last week. president trump calling that

growth sustainable and others questioning the sustainability of that growth. you can let us know your thoughts on the current state of the economy and a president trump deserves credit for that. (202) 748-8000. if you say yes. (202) 748-8001. if you say no. regardless of the line be prepared to tell us why you think that. feedan post on our twitter or our facebook page. stephen collinson for cnn talking about the present state of the economy and the presidential role. saying the president does deserve some credit for the fresht state, saying " from a trip from the heart led the president is making the best case for his administration. he is belting out a strong economic message with a fervor that democrats have yet to match. caused byare often

cyclical factors, but it also gives them a chance to grow when things are going full steam ahead. trump is not the kind of person to pass that up. the president's hyperbolic hisssment of own performances i ought to with the facts. friday's announcement that the economy grew at a 4.1% pace in , the best quarter showing since 2014 is cause for celebration. the tax cut is the only significance and he has managed to pass, is as he said it would in leasing prosperity. 'we have never seen anything like what is going on right now ,'trump told a crowd in illinois on thursday. -- thursday." (202) 748-8000. if you say yes.

if you say no it is (202) 748-8001. . you can also post on twitter. it was his chief economic adviser larry kudlow on the sunday show yesterday talking about the state of the economy in the president's role in it. i think the president deserves a victory lap. low tax rates, rolling back regulations, opening up energy, trade reform which is paying off in respect to the eu agreement. the fundamentals of the economy look good. ,arsing through these numbers inventory is low, cap's goods booming, business investment booming. that is a productivity creator, a job creator. a wave creator for ordinary mainstream folks. terribly important. the saving rate was higher by which gives

consumers let the of ammunition. as mr. trump has made clear that he intends to reward success, he is not trashing businesses. he wants people to take a rep at the ball. you are seeing the results of this new policy. we have five trump quarters just under 3%. this was 4.1. the first half was 3.1. i don't see any reason why we can't run this for several quarters. terms, rock-bottom inventory and a capital goods investments boom in business are strong factors. the president's chief white house economic adviser larry kudlow talking about the state of the economy. " gdpite saying that -- underst 2% or 3% obama it surpassed 3% eight times."

washington repost -- washington post pointing up the quarterly gdp growth has exceeded 5.1% in 37 months since ronald reagan took office in 1981 including four times under obama. president in the second quarter of this year would rank as the fit strongest of the obama presidency. the best performing for obama was 2014 when the economy grew at 5.1%. your thoughts on if the president deserves credit for the state of the economy. this is pennsylvania. brenda, good morning. she says no. caller: i do not give trump credit for the booming economy. i credit god. of homes andands businesses were damaged or destroyed in the hurricanes and wildfires. of course consumer spending is going to be up. tens of thousands of families and businesses had to replace

absolutely everything. the work required to rebuild everything. i give got credit. if trump's business income tax was so great why did his own daughter choose to do her manufacturing in china. let's hear from alvin and minneapolis, minnesota who says yes. caller: i used to be a democrat. i still am a democrat. i noticed all my friends and family members are working making money and paying bills and getting back into society and contributing to democrat and republican parties. concerned i am voting for donald trump. host: you talked about your friends. are you saying they weren't working under the previous administration? caller: they used to work but they got laid off for hours cut.

you are saying that changed under this president? caller: it certainly has. host: let's hear from south who says no, go ahead. onler: if trump had come in what obama came in on we would be different. host: what do you mean by that? --ler: what he is doing now if he was doing what he is doing peoplethe obama watch would be losing homes and losing jobs. we had unemployment line around the building. this economy was growing for eight years. it was going up. it is still going up. under obama. the only thing trump did was take all.

everything is still going up. obama came in on the worst economy since 1922. trump --lennials and it is shameful the way people talk about they want their country back. they killed all the indians and brought slaves and. says trumpn twitter does deserve some credit for the uptick in the economy. with black iteris there is plenty of time to have a negative effect. the claim that this is sustainable is questionable at best and i'm not counting my chickens yet. saying trump deserves some credit for the strong economy. from connecticut, mary and is next. trump does not deserve any credit for the economy. it is common sense.

quarters or aal year or two years to see the effects of any legislation. we will not see the effects of what trump and his republican congress have done until next year or the following year. what do you attribute the current numbers that we have been hearing about? caller: it is momentum. things don't work at the speed of light. people are so used to pressing a button and something happens. it doesn't work that way in economies. it takes many quarters if not years to see the effects of something that was done previously. we are still working off of obama's policy. host: would you say that the person in the white house on the trump factor influences that momentum? caller: he is trying to influence it. host: johnny in north carolina.

go ahead. caller: trump does not deserve credit. this is obama's economy. i quit watching c-span for a short time because you continue to act like obama was doing such a horrible job. he was not doing a horrible job. he did a great job. you say this is the employees of the previous presidents economy, make that case. what would you look to? caller: when he came and we were losing 800,000 jobs a month. when he left unemployment was down to 4.5%. trump has done nothing. all these tax cuts and these , -- this is the only thing he has done.

he is just riding off of obama. all that garbage he has passed this year, that tax cut, these tariffs, will show up and got help us. host: johnny in north carolina. talking about economics when it election.he new york times taking a look at republicanshat" reluctant to dwell on tax cuts, writing that republicans have reasons to doubt the efficacy of and campaignssage have historically been referendums on the sitting president. the last time the economy grew 4.1% in a quarter was in 2014 under obama. republicans lost nine seats and a majority in the fall. democrats lost nine seats and their majority that fall. democrats are weaponize and goal

-- weaponize sing -- weaponizing the tax law. that is true in ohio's top stretcheshich from columbus where residents probably benefited from the tax cuts to the foothills of appalachia where they haven't. -- haven't." you can find that on their website. from cornell in new jersey, hello. the fact of the matter is, no, i cannot give donald inmp any credit because even of the cuts he gave 83% $1.5 trillion to the 1%. if that was flipped this country would have taken off. the 99% or've given

83% of that tax cut than this country what have taken off. the stock market has been on the rise for 10 straight years, unprecedented. the only thing i will give donald trump credit for is not only flooding the swamp. anytime he talks about something ,e talks about crooked hillary the obama administration, president obama, we were losing 750,000 jobs per month -- host: what was the obama administration's role in reversing that? caller: he had a team together. he did not have a makeshift government. president trump -- the problem with president trump is you have

a 70-year-old man who ran a business for his whole life, six bankruptcies, he had control of everything. on life support as a country because we are alienating our allies. host: we will leave it there. bruce is next from kentucky. ander: i have a business the atmosphere is so positive under trump. plumber,d to that one you didn't build that. there is a big difference when you have a president who is pro-business. the federal reserve is looking to raise interest rates because they are worried the economy is too hot. there are articles about wages coming up. the challenges there. for blacksployment

and hispanics ever, more jobs than there are people to take them. in my business i am investing. other businesses i work with are investing. change ine, is the the sense that there is -- you aid i didn't miss -- different atmosphere, talk about that. caller: everybody knows this. you are about business it releases the animal spirits. we work with businesses that build natural gas plants. natural gas plants were very hot wasr obama while coal deemphasized. is in,t trump immediately the investment in natural gas plants has dried up because they saw there is a new

sheriff in town. it comes right from the top. hope and promise and we are not going to throttle you down or consider you the bad guy mr. businessman, here comes the investment, here comes the belief. host: that is bruce in kentucky. giving his thoughts on president trump. saying he deserves credit for the strong economy. it is (202) 748-8000. if you say yes. (202) 748-8001. if you say no. available on social media, you can post there. if you go to our social media there is a poll you can participate in. it is a responsible. as it currently stands most of the people who are taking part in that saying no the president is not getting credit for the economy. 35% saying yes. --s is karen buchanan stat

statement. i'll give him credit so far, not destroy the economic growth that started under obama. cecil from carolina is next up. caller: thank goodness for c-span. i can tell the truth for a change. taxes were paid by the people that are benefiting and the people in the fortune 500 have the benefit of that tax cut. that is the reason why the -- only one class of people are enjoying the benefits of a growing economy. i agree trump has helped the economy. host: this is usa today. a different trait on the economy from charles koch of the koch brothers.

saying that some of their sharpest criticism of the administration, leaders of the influential political network associated with charles koch slammed the president on saturday, calling at protectionism that hurts american businesses and consumers, saying this white house is causing long-term damage. in order to win on an issue -- when in order to win on an issue someone else has to lose, it makes it difficult to unite people to solve the problems of this country. to leave the idea of tariffs into this conversation on the state of the economy. taxes, which several people have far up -- brought up. (202) 748-8000. if you set a president does deserve credit for the strong economy. (202) 748-8001. if you say no. next from texas, david. good morning. caller: good morning. withtainly agree

everything our president is doing. as a small business owner i have seen a great help in his tax cuts. the 21%. i agree with everything he does. what kind of business do you own and what have you seen change at your business because of the tax cuts? caller: i am in west texas. it is tricky in texas because we are such a big state. we don't see what is going on. say in austin. out here in oil fields of west like crazy.booming if you need a job you can get a job. me an example and how would you attribute that to the president's efforts? deregulationt was

in oil and gas. it is booming. host: on twitter, what a question. he lowered taxes and stop sanctions on businesses. he stopped obama's debacle on the old ways for years, for example the tax change. alls a law, 4.1% growth is trump. referencing a previous call saying obama had a team together or something. you can respond on facebook and on the phone lines. many in maryland says no, go ahead. think the credit should go to obama. initially there put about 800,000 jobs -- team of economic teams -- up to

12 million new jobs. unemployment went down to almost 4.5%. a lot of people had health insurance. now where is the health care, where is the insurance. if trump had the economy obama had -- host: as far as policy, what would you .2 as a policy by to as ant obama -- point policy by president obama? he stimulated the economy in the first place. donald trump did not do it alone. nowtimulated the economy -- -- people areis

losing their health insurance. host: you made that point. jack in oklahoma says yes, go ahead. caller: can you hear me. president trump deserves all the credit. he went in and started cutting regulations. i live in oklahoma where there are not a lot of jobs. we are the flyover part of the nation that people forgot about. naturalme in and helped gas and oil fields start booming. i am a truck driver. i deliver rocks and stuff. rock and that doesn't count other tankers. we live in a small rural county. a whole lot of people are going back to work, there is hardly anybody without work. president obama was the worst

thing to ever happen to america. when you hear the argument that the current economy could be attributed to the president because the current president has only been in power for 18 months and tax cuts are recent, what you think about those arguments? host: optimism has a -- caller: optimism has a lot to do with the economy. look how much the stock market has grown. people want to invest into a winning country. we are the greatest country that was ever on the face of this earth. donald trump is making us great again. obama had nothing to do with that. it is optimism. you'll want to invest because he is cutting regulations. i agree with what he is doing at the border. we need to build that wall and keep them people from getting over here. these bleeding heart liberals need to wake up and get a real mindset of what is good for this country. host: one of the people

commenting on the state of economy on the sunday shows was a senator from new hampshire. asked about the current state of the economy and the president's. here is some of the response. have 140,000 jobs that are at risk. that is why it is so hard to understand why anyone thinks the uncertainty around these tariffs and the potential trade war are going to be good for the economy. people are concerned about that uncertainty. everyone from a lobster company that has lost huge orders every week to china and they are worried they are not going to get that market back, they have gone to canada, to manufacturing countries like in the western part of the state where they make water filtering systems. this is affecting businesses. one of the things i was sorry to hear the ambassador said this week when he came before the

appropriation subcommittee was that while they are talking about a bailout for farmers they are not talking about help for small businesses who are being heard. host: the poll that you can participate in on twitter, there is a counterpart if you go to our facebook page at facebook.com/cspan. you can participate in the poll or leave comments on whether the president deserves credit for the strong economy. commentor says -- " it: he is lucky this -- was strong when he took office, we are lucky that the markets are ignoring his craziness, that's not going to a last, you can't ignore the tariffs." if you want to participate you can do so at facebook.com/c-span. joe, you are next up. american workers --

indiscernible] the republicans work for the 1% not the 99%. president trump has put his agenda -- they have the money. runs forublican office, that is for the money is coming from. the caller from oklahoma said build the wall. i agree with them. we can build to walls. i don't know if he understands we have airplanes nowadays. we're sticking on the

economy. stephen arizona says no, hello. i say no but not because i'm trying to take any credit from the president. the simple fact of the matter is the reason the economy has come back is the american people. here in arizona we build a lot of houses since the stock market crash. we started washing windows and mowing lawns. every one these guys have no jobs. they changed their career. they may do opportunities. that is what brought the economy back. i'm not trying to knock the president. giving him credit for the economy is like giving a surfer credit for a way. they just happened to be there when the wave came along. it is all the hard work of all your listeners. host: if it is the people who make that, no credit

for the president on any level, it is the people? host: think about it. what did the president do? almost nothing. like you said, his tariffs will affect lots of people. i don't credit or discredit the president. i credit the american people for their ingenuity and a desire to provide for their families. the topic of soybeans, a front-page story on the usa today. it will play a factor in the midterms coming up. " the soybean harvest could control congress. our home to major soybean farms, particularly in the midwest.

president trump has performed strongly in that region in 2016, dealing with a substantial harvest time blow from his tariffs just before voters head to the polls. from southern minnesota where republicans are hoping to claim an open house seat long held by democrats, to an illinois district where democrats are angling to pick up a republican incumbent, soybean farmers have watched prices plummet amid an escalating trade war between the u.s. and china. 'the short-term is what scares 'says a fourth-generation soybean farmer in southern minnesota who backed trump two years ago. 'it could be an interesting midterm election'." from alexandria, virginia this is andrew. caller: he deserves partial credit because of consumer optimism and a fake it until you

make it attitude with the economy. not had enoughve time to grow into a new catastrophe or a great success as he is trying to climb. case in point would be the stock market was hitting record highs and he couldn't talk enough about that. for several days after there were some hard hitting lows. goingme thing is probably to happen next quarter and a quarter after with these tariffs. the chicken is going to come home to roost. twitter, jacqueline says trump gave the people of billion dollars for life and the 1% of the working people got a raise for a year only for a virginia said we can thank donald trump for the 4.1 economy. obama did nothing to help the american people. knowse a president who how to create jobs and run the country, he is the best choice

for america. from florida, this is jolt. tell us why. , he says yes, tell us why. caller: i think however the economy is looking, the optimism is there, the abuse he has him is there. president trump had to do with all of that. need as americans, we are going through tough times, there are a lot of countries out there taking advantage of us for years and years. we need to stick together and support each other and support our company, support our farmers. even if we have to pay a little bit more. i am a hard-working guy. i'm not a rich guy. i want to support our farmers

and companies. host: we believe it there. the real clear politics website, when they do polls they do a sampling of polls and boy with into an average. one of those polls that were considered. with the president's job approval, specifically when it came to matters of the economy. after a sampling of those polls, finding that of those taken 50.4% approving of the president's work on the economy, 42.3% disapproving. that is the average taken there. you can read them and the results for yourself. that is at the real clear politics website. from baltimore, maryland, tony go ahead. facts.ere are some the dow jones at the height of the bush administration was a

little over 11,600. as the economy collapsed under 6600,he market fell to 800,000 jobs lost per month. 23,000,me in around took it up to 26, dropped it down to about 24. only when it was going up was he saying that he did all this, as it was going back down he never took credit for the losses. obama, hethat under saved general motors and got paid back with interest. host: let's go to new jersey. this is christopher in inglewood. caller: i agree with the gentleman about obama taking

full credit for getting the economy back on track. trump does not deserve credit for any of it because he only brought credit for his rich friends for it unfortunately -- friends. the american people worked hard to make the economy work again with obama side under his leadership. other than the points the previous caller brought up, what would you point to in the obama administration when it comes to the economy. >> protecting the rights of individuals, especially those who work with special needs and those -- including those in the mom and pop business shops. especially those who are trying to make our country great. even after all the mess that was and the under bush obama office. trump deserves no credit. host: another story from the

paper, this one from the new york times. betweenabout a meeting the publisher of the new york times and the president, looking at the state of journalism. here is the story. there was a tweet that went out over the weekend on the presidents meeting with missiles berger saying they had a good an interesting meeting at the white sulzberger, talking byut fake news being put out the fate me yet have a fake news has morphed into an enemy of the people. this prompted a response by mr. i told thesaying " president directly i thought his language was not just divisive but increasingly dangerous, i told him that although the phrase fake news is untrue and harmful i am more concerned about his labeling the journalist the enemy of the

people." e goes on to say " inflammatory language is contribute into a rise in threats against journalists and will lead to violence. i repeatedly stressed that this is true abroad with the president's rhetoric is being used by some regimes to justify sweeping crackdown on journalists. -- mr.oes on to say " sulzberger described a meeting with president trump as cordial but went on to the oval office determined to make a point at what the dangers of the president's inflammatory language. it goes on to say at the conclusion of the meeting, " mr. sulzberger said at the end of the session he felt mr. trump had listened to his argument and the president says he was glad he raise those issues and he would think about them." that is in the new york times

this morning. baltimore, maryland you are next. caller: good morning. trump know,to say and his base- know knows we had a great economy. he lies and lies and is able support his life. i will be glad when america comes back to a reality check. this economy belongs to obama. host: how? when trump walked into office of had just brought us out of a recession. -- obama had just brought us out of a recession. we know what economy obama inherited and we know what economy trump inherited. don is next in chesapeake, virginia. caller: good morning, c-span.

does he even look at the news? obama with a one point something gdp growth, now you have 4.1 growth and the economy is booming. all obama did was chase our jobs out. now he is bringing them back. that is what makes sense of everything. our jobs are coming back. they're not going to mexico, overseas, they are coming back here because the regulations have been withdrawn and our tax has dropped so they can make a stab at it. small businesses are coming back. that is the reality. these are recent policies that are put into play. what you think about the argument saying the actions of the previous administration have bled into this administration because the policies of this

administration are fairly new? host: the policies obama had were crushing our country. back.policies are coming andle can get out there find work now. there weren't any jobs before. unemployment was crazy. people were just having to go to the government to get help. any work out there. now there is. that is my point. host: danny is up next. caller: i was listening to that gentleman talk. we were losing 50,000 jobs a month when obama took office. , you can go back and check the facts. -- socialleased

security got put two or three dollars a month -- a week out of the paycheck of people, gave it back to them, that is what --rted you never hear anybody say anything about it. host: that was danny in alabama. another story, taking a look at other news. this is about representative john lewis who is 78, democrat from georgia. being ink home after the hospital. a story in the washington post says he became ill while flying home to atlanta on saturday. he was expected at an event that afternoon. the congressman's office described his hospital stay as routine observation but released no details about what sense in

there. he remained in the hospital through sunday afternoon. in the evening's spokesman released a statement " representative john lewis has been released from the hospital, all tests have been completed and doctors have given him a clean bill of health. he thanks everyone who share their thoughts and concerns and prayers during his stay there cap -- stay." what was the president last week who talked about the state of the economy and the role he believes tax cuts played in it. here is a bit of that presentation. with the help of republicans in congress we passed come without one democrat vote, the biggest tax cuts and reform in our history. the democrats want to and that and raise taxes. that would be a disaster for our economy. more than 6 million americans are enjoying new bonuses better

jobs and for bigger paychecks not. every democrat voted against the tax cut. against working families, small businesses, not good. in the first three months after tax cuts over $300 billion poured back into the united states from overseas for it we think it is going to be in the end when completed over $4 trillion. apple alone is bringing in $230 billion and they are building new plants, and i deficit, they're going to be spending their money wisely in our country not in some other country. by thes made possible new tax cut and reform plan. host: that is available on our website.

due to president obama's, trump landed on thursday and thought he hit a triple, this is georgia bear saying, of course the president deserves credit. obama's tax and regulation cost the economy $6 trillion every year, trump has given a lot of that back. facebook thisn morning if you want to give thoughts there. virginia representative dave brat represents the third district of virginia and talks senators, to work pointed comments on the farm bill and the status of the farm week aying " this congressional conference committee gets to work resolve the differences between the house and senate version of the 20 18th arm bill which authorizes the food stamp program. among the most contested issues will be the work requirement for able-bodied single adults passed by house.

republicans must end up for fiscal responsibility and the dignity that comes with work. to receive benefits under the house version of the farm bill and able-bodied foodstamp recipients between 18 and 59 without children would be to work or be enrolled in a job grading program for 20 hours a week, even a part-time attachment to the labor market is important because it allows welfare recipients to gain experience to fill up resumes. -- thenomy can do senators in the committee can do the right thing and approved the final version of the 2018 farm bill. -- farm bill." from maryland, brett is next. he believes the president deserves credit for the economy. isler: i think the president doing a great job in this country would be a whole lot better off if the democrats were with him instead of stop everything he is trying to do.

host: specifically how would you give the president credit for the economy? caller: i think he is doing a great job of everything. the fighter airplanes that they ordered before he was president, he got a lower price for that. air force one, air force to the got a lower price. everything he is doing is great. the country would be better if the democrats would go along with him instead of stopping him from doing everything he is doing. host: from new york, leona. caller: i think it is common sense. we had a 35% corporate tax rate and we were competitive on a global scale. if they dropped it down to 20% with republicans and drop, wouldn't that make simple sense to everyone? i am a small business owner.

if i was charging more than everyone else they would run to the nearest competitor. i think it is common sense with dropping the corporate tax rate. now we are competitive. host: do you think because of that tax rate and recent acts by the administration you can see those effects that soon? caller: absolutely. it is optimism. a business owner needs to plan and protect. any business owner knows that. overhead and aof lot of concerns. the bottom line is, when you know and you have a president behind you and they dropped the corporate tax rate and businesses are coming back to the country, all business owners are cheering. we are ecstatic. we feel comfortable. we say this guy has our back. host: let's go to jd, good morning. caller: absolutely not.

lying donald does not deserve credit in any way for the booming economy. i do want to be sure that he is given credit for the economy crashes, which it will. the credit loans, in 2008, americans memory are very short. in 2008 we had a crisis on a scale, the only thing beyond it was the great depression in 1929 or 1930. they lowered interest rates around the world, central bankers working in tandem, japan, germany, united states, china, 20 and below zero interest rates. this was the doing of central bankers working around the world in a crisis mode to get the world's economy going again. they flooded the world's economy with cheap massive amounts of cash.

the cash was floating around looking for a place to go. it found its way into the stock market around the world. we are seeing the same old three inflation of a bubble akin to any other gilded age. trump is another gilded age guy, a casino oligarch. andre going to see it crash we are going to see a reelection of somewhat like franklin delano roosevelt who is going to say the captain of industry failed the american people. hooveris another and we are going to have to us are in a friend when roosevelt or joe kennedy. host: talking about future election and those who might be interested in running for the office of the president. they focus on senator kamala harris and others come a democrat from california, saying she does not face senate hasection until 2022 but become one of the most aggressive online fundraisers

this year after spending 1.1 million on new advertising since the start of 2017. in the second quarter of this year she reported raising $926,000 in contributions under $200. say she is expanded turkey melt lists to almost one million after a 2016 election in which she relied on more traditional fundraising. elizabeth warren of massachusetts has paid more than $1.5 million to a web advertising consultant to raise -- and raised $1.2 million in the second quarter from donations less than $200. more and is running for reelection and is widely favored to win that race easily, allowing her to accumulate money, she dashed and transition to a presidential campaign next

year. bernie sanders has the most viable email listen politics which he built up during his presidential campaign in 2016. he has used it to raise more than $5.3 million in small donations. raised $1.7 million this cycle brother candidates and causes. causes."as, this is -- from kansas, this is ronald. hello. caller: you have to give trump some credit. i don't know why they don't want to give the man no credit. he is the reason, him and the republican congress for all this. the good economy and lower taxes. all them regulations they reduce. you have to give the man credit. it seems like we had a lot trump haters calling in that don't like the man. i appreciate the man and what he has done for this country. maybe someday other people will.

a lot of people have jobs, two or three jobs. we will go to ron in maryland who says no, go ahead. hello. thanks to c-span. donald trump might deserve some credit but he doesn't deserve all the credit. we were losing hundred thousand jobs a month. he brought it back. countryindustry in this , we brought the car industry back in the country. think about how many people would have been unemployed. when he was president, every had something showing what the debt was buried why haven't since president trump -- what have a wish on that clock one time?

-- why haven't you shown that clock one time? host: we have shown it several times. caller: when are you going to show it again? host: we can put it up in a couple seconds, how about that? jerry from new jersey, go ahead. caller: i just heard the previous caller. i have to laugh. i know they are trying desperately to save obama's legacy but it is gone. even obamacare is going to be gone, it is slowly slipping away. the tax they gave everybody to not purchase insurance did not help the economy. they are talking about the employment rate. there were so many people that weren't even looking for work. if you look at the participation rate, you look at people that are working now or coming into the workforce. democrats do not realize what happened -- i am a registered democrat, i voted for obama.

i believe he took this country down big time. i think trump is a blessing to this country. i don't care about his personal life. i don't care what he did in the past. america first. the american workers first. i believe we should start making more in this country made by americans. you go to walmart, the fruit or vegetables are mexico. how about we buy american? caller.at is our 22 trillion come the national debt much of it into clock that we have shown and chilling again. a lot of other statistics on that clock. this is called david to usa today saying " the labor market seems to have defied gravity. uprages from a robust -- from 182,000 last year despite a low 4% unemployment rate that is

spelling more worker shortages. the july jobs report could shed -- game it payroll can will maintain that surprising pace were slow in the second half of the year. consumer confidence has dipped from an 18 year high in february but only modestly. and credit strong job income growth is was federal tax cut that a black more money in workers paychecks. gas prices have climbed this year that has been more than offset by higher stock in home prices that have lifted household wealth. -- lifted household wealth." if you go to the wall street journal this morning, a story about jobs below the full. this is kelsey writing that employers are abandoning -- providing americans looking for a new career with their best

chances of success. many companies raised education and experience requirements for job applicants after the recession when millions were out of work and human resources departments were stacked with resumes. employers want to broaden the pool of job candidates leading --."ny from new jersey this is been. good morning. -- ben, good morning. caller: i disagree with the fellow new jersey and. the underlying question is whether a recession is coming. i believe the best way to do that is, i believe this economy is largely inflated. it is not the end of the world. if trump cut the spending, trump there arepublicans -- silly things that have gone on that senator rand paul points out. we study animals on cocaine, silly things like that. if we cut spending and get a 2.0

it aimed at working families think we can get consumer confidence up in an actual strong economy. host: from was her rate this is tony in kansas city. tony, go ahead. -- missouri, this is tony in kansas city. tony, go ahead. caller: despite the controversy of trump and things like make news and making america great again, i think he deserves credit just like our other presidents deserve credit for, better support for israel. trump seems more inclined to making israel great again instead of making america great again. host: since we are talking about the economy, you're thinking on the presidents influence on that? caller: the war in the middle east continues. we continue to plunder our

national treasury on unjustified wars. we are $21 trillion in debt and we still have the controversy of 9/11 over our head. host: in pennsylvania, this is jim. caller: good morning. it is a great day in america. we finally have a man in the white house that is making america great again. pennsylvania he already brought back at least 2000 manufacturing jobs. i am a democrat. i voted for obama twice. i voted for trump and i'm going to vote for him again. obama spent 11 trillion of our tax dollars and put us in a whole $11 trillion. he added $11 trillion to the debt while he was in there.

i could take it to mentor and give them $11 trillion and say bail america out and they can do it. house, hen the white is working 16, 18, 20 hours a day. according to a radio station in new jersey, they are reporting on their website that president donald trump appears to have spent his summer vacation at his golf course in new jersey once again. they report that federal aviation administration has issued a flood advisory for august 2 two the 17th for the bedminster area with a trump national golf club is located. it has been a frequent spot of respite for the president and with the location of a 17 day trip last summer. that trip taken while the white house air-conditioning system was being repaired, true criticism to the president who

has spoken with disdain about vacations. " don't take vacation, with the point, if you're enjoying your point?"'s the from new jersey, barbie is next. caller: i think trump deserves credit. all the statistics are artifacts. they don't take into account there is so much drug money and corrupt money that is not being considered. andle do one-off jobs need to besellingall of the sts taken into consideration for accuracy, and there is a dark figure, like the dark figure of crime. nobody is considering, no , is considering the

fact that there is a lot of money not being traced. you can make a payment. you can buy stocks under $10,000. you can buy cars under $10,000. and there is no paper trail. host: we will leave it there pale last call on this topic. several guests joining us this morning. first, we hear from lanae hatalsky from the centrist democratic think tank third way. later on in the program, as the president threatens to revoke a security clearances for several members of the obama administration, national security attorney mark zaid will be here to talk about how security clearances work. ♪

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here to talk about those issues important to the democrats supported that represented by that group. how would you describe those democrats? guest: third way was looking at how do immigrants appeal to people in red and purple places. you could call us centerleft. you could call us mainstream democrats. we are trying to figure out how democrats appeal to the widest swath of big tent to defeat donald trump. host: what is the message of appeal in those places? guest: we are out with a new poll that asked that question. people are still anxious about the economy. even though the macro numbers are doing better, they feel like , in their community, it is still difficult to earn a good life. 55% of them say it is very difficult to earn a good life. what we found is they really want the government to focus on expanding opportunity for more

people and places. when you asked him what the biggest problems are in the economy, they say the economy has really changed -- i am not sure what my place in it will be or the place for my children. i need the government to focus on however single american can work and earn an opportunity for a good life. host: what qualifies as a good life? guest: people are most talking about a job that can pay then -- pay them to be stable and not worry about expenses every single day and this month. they are talking about good benefits, that they can have health care, retirement, retirement in dignity. they want to talk about living .here they want to live host: when you talk about the recent economic numbers you cited, to people who look at the realmgs, is this

of private industry rather than the federal government? guest: the federal government has a huge role to play. democrat, so i a always think the federal government has a huge role. the federal government has to spread the opportunity. , it ise see growth concentrated in cities, on the coast. it is not easily spread throughout the country. if you look at the counties that have gained jobs the last 10 years, there are really only some isolated places that have done really well. they are bringing up the macro numbers. if you look across the rest of the country, jobs are going down. businesses are not being created through most of that counties in the country to her that was not the case in the 10 years prior. it was more evenly spread. government needs to be able to help, make sure that opportunity is spread to people and places across the country. host: our guest will join us for about half an hour. if you want to ask her

questions, call the line. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002. fille research -- you can in the blanks. one of them looks at the inequality of opportunities as the bigger challenge. of the 4% saying inequality opportunity exists. 36% say income inequality exists. expand that. democrats haveg been talking a lot about in the last 10 years is income inequality. it is a moral outrage when you look at the numbers and how things have been spread apart, but it is not the economic problem most people experience in their day-to-day lives. after the election, we went to district visits in 12 different races in the country there are politically mixed, trying to understand what is going on and how do people see the economic challenges they face. in almost none of them did income inequality,.

in those places, it is places where i grew up, like in northern minnesota, where the wealthy person was the pediatrician. they had an act -- outside pool. in most places in the country, what you are really looking at in terms of your day-to-day challenge is making sure you and your child can earn a good life and how what you need in order to not have to make decisions based on money every single day. it is very different. when you ask people about what they want government to address, they want government to focus on expanding opportunity to more people and places rather than something like addressing income inequality in a more macro way. host: what specific policy do you think best addresses those concerns? guest: a lot of the problem in the past has been people want steak, bold -- big, bold withies that are to scale the problem they are facing. they want new ideas.

the digital economy has changed work. it has made it so people are experiencing the economy in a really different way. we cannot just recycle either 1990's centrism or 1960's socialism, or what we did in the new deal. we are in a new age could we put out a 10 big idea plan a couple months ago the has things like making sure every single american has a private pension that goes along with their social security, so they can retire in dignity. creating an american investment bank that would actually allow people to start small businesses and have access to capital in a way that big businesses do right now but small businesses do not in a lot of places in the country. we found venture capital -- three quarters of venture capital is concentrated in three states right now. if you have a great idea and you are living in minnesota, you

will not get access to that capital. you will get it in california, massachusetts, or new york. you need to be able to run with your ideas and other places in the country. that is one of the big ideas we think could help folks really be able to expand their opportunities. about thislso look $15 an hour minimum wage, or a national minimum wage. how does that fall in? guest: there has been a lot of pouring about some of the other ideas on the table, whether it is single-payer or a $15 minimum wage, showing some of these ideas are very popular when you ask them by themselves. we did a head-to-head. on minimum wage, would you prefer a candidate that says i do not want to raise minimum-wage? would you prefer one that says i want to raise it to $50 an hour everywhere. ? -- $15 an hour everywhere? or would you do it based on region, because every hamburger costs different in the streets

after more than it does down the streets in shaw. across the board people picked the opportunity policy, the idea that, in this phase, we should have a regional minimum ways rage. that was -- minimum wage raise. that was true across democrats. democrats picked the regional minimum wage raise by 30 points. that was true of expanding the aca rather than single-payer. that was also true of a whole raft of the policies you see on the left. when you test it head-to-head, it is true that independents prefer an opportunity policy to something for the left, but so is the actual democratic coalition that will come to the primary polls. we take that opportunity policy, the idea of opportunity to earn, can unite the collation. -- coalition. host: our guess is with third way. tordway.org in case you want

check out this research. our first call comes from maryland. robert, a democrat. good morning. caller: good morning to both of you. i am pleased to see third way finally coming back out. i think there has never been a time greater. as someone who grew up a midwestern democrat, son of a and,miner, strong unions what i would say, is your traditional democrat, i am very concerned about the progressive movement that seems to be getting away from that centrist movement. i certainly am very pleased to see you out there speaking again . this is the only area where i think we can condense moderate republicans or independents to come back. the concerns i had with bernie sanders and that movement will alienate that entire crowd.

kudos to you. about thatu talk factor and the victory by alexander acosta cortez -- ocas alexandriand -- asio-cortez.o -- oc guest: i am excited. i think she represents her district well paper her district is very, very, very blue. does not necessarily represent the places democrats need to win in order to take that the house or to build the presidential coalition. important, as she has said, to have a big tent within the party, a party that can have ocasio-cortez and also heidi heitkamp. we know one of the problems with the election last time was there

were a lot of democrats who were in their little bubbles, because a lot of us are concentrated, living in very blue areas. i looked up on the "new york times" map that came out last week, and my precinct in d.c. voted for trump 93%. that is not representative of the country. we need to make sure we talked to folks like robert that are in different places that we need to appeal to in order to win a broader and winning coalition. she is a part of that, but even she has said it is not the way to win everywhere. her district is very unique. host: on our republican line, joe. you are up next. caller: thank you. i appreciate the fact that you have not gotten to economics 101 know wherewanted to you would get the money for all this free stuff from democrats. you cannot buy a hamburger in upstate north dakota for $2 or $3, but go to d.c., it's $10.

you understand why. all the money is funneled in their. host: so there is a funding fact in these programs. guest: absolutely there is a lot of investment we need to do. as democrats, we would want to pay for that. we also think government should be involved in helping spread opportunity. but he hit on an interesting point, which is about earning versus free. this is one of the things we found in our poll. people in the united states have a very different viewpoint than people in other developed countries around the world. pew asked how important do you think it is to earn, how important do you think hard work is to getting ahead? -- ofnce, 40% people people say on a zero to 10 scale, 10. so i do not think earning is an important component in france.

in the u.s., eight in 10 say this is a very important component. ifocrats will go all right people think -- democrats will go awry if people think it is all free, free, free. demographicss groups. that means they want to see policies that are about the opportunity to earn as opposed to saying we will give universal basic income. they want to have a job, want to contribute to society do they want democrats to understand the value. opportunity is what they want. earn is what they value. host: you said universal income. that is the idea in the front page of the "times." guest: the universal income debate --

there will just be some people that we do not need to work, so let's just to them a universal a sick income. that is a misunderstanding of the changes happening today. what we will see his job reconstruction, not job destruction. in the 1990's, when atm's were coming online, people said we will not have bank tellers anymore because these robots will take over. it turns out we have more bank tellers today then we had before atm's. people are still doing their jobs. it is just those jobs require a different set of skills. it is no longer just counting money. they need to know how to do a more dynamic interaction. we need to do the jobs that will be created in this new economy rather than saying why not just a out of the economy, we will give you a check -- people want the dignity of work.

host: so with the farm bill, particularly those who would receive food stamps and will require work, is that something third way would sign on to? the idea that people will scam the system -- that is not true. there is no research that helprts we need additional them what we have. the point is we should have a robust safety net for people actually falling through the cracks. there is a whole group of people in the middle that is not necessarily falling through the cracks but they do not feel government is paying attention to them at all. do a that people who we better job at having policies to address. we need to have a robust safety net for people who are really down on their luck. those people who are working their way up, as they work their

way up, they want a job that pays well, a job that gives them benefits, and a job that allows their kids to gain the skills they need in order to not use that safety net any longer. even the words "safety net" makes it sound like you want people to be trapped there. that is not what people want. people want to be able to move up and out and earn a good life. host: bill from pennsylvania, republican line. caller: good morning. thanks for taking my call. host: you are on. go ahead. caller: thanks for taking my call. i appreciate it. let's get real here. right now, republicans are in control. democrats are resisting anything they want to do. when obama was in office or eight years, republicans resisted anything he tried to do. this is the country right now.

democrats and republicans do not work together. it is a shame. it is a mess. thisve to get out democrat-republican party crap and work together as one, as a country. all we have going on right now is investigation after investigation after investigation. we would have had the same thing if hillary clinton were elected. investigations. this government accomplishes nothing. it does nothing for the people. on an important point. there is a different set of beliefs and attitudes throughout the country then there is always represented in washington, d.c. part of that is because of the primary system we have created. a view, really loud -- a few really loud voices get to dominate in that system. for example, caucuses. caucuses require you to go out and stand in line and be out for five hours in order to weigh in.

that requires a certain commitment and a certain desire to really stand for your candidate. it really drowns out the voices of lots of other people. really big supporters of reforming the primary system to make it open, so that independents can vote and a primary, so we do not have caucus systems essentially making it so only a tiny, tiny slice of the electorate can participate. when you go in the country, people do not think "compromise" is a dirty word. they want congress to get something done. they think getting something done is better than making the perfect enemy out of the good. fromis not what we hear advocates or people controlling the primary system within either party. there is a lot of room for change there. you have seen four states in the last cycle move, on the democratic side, from caucuses

to primary series -- two primaries for this reason. they realize it is better if broadere elected with a electorate, because then they have -- caller: thank you for taking my call. in florida, we have a race between senator bill nelson and the leaving governor, governor rick scott. he is trying to overtake bill nelson's seat. support fromany the democratic party in the state of florida to help bill nelson retain his seat. the jobs thing is that that have been created in the state of blood -- in the state of florida, or anywhere in the south, r nothing but part-time or low-paying. people need help. in the south more so than d.c. -north. i see nothing but low-paying, no

benefits, no respect for anybody's prior history of work. in the interim, people are out on the street, and people are really hurting. i think this authorization, and any organization connected to the democratic party, really needs to travel south. i thank you for taking my call. guest: i think one of the -- i talked about our traveling throughout the country. one of the places i went was in florida. i saw what you have described. i saw people trying really hard to make it work, trying to work multiple different jobs or different jobs throughout different seasons in order to provide a good opportunity for their family and children. you described exactly the economic trouble folks face. what is interesting is that was the same economic trouble people were describing, whether in new hampshire or in cheri bustos's

district in illinois, or in madison, wisconsin. this is a way to answer western for folks across the country, if we can have bold, new ideas on how to actually make sure folks have that opportunity. i think, from pulling i have seen in 2018, a lot of folks want to see a check on donald trump. they think he has gone too far. they want that chapter there are 10 states where democrats have seats, but trump won their states. ofhink bill nelson is one them. a lot of those swing voters are donald trump goes to far sometimes. so they want to see bill nelson or heidi heitkamp stay because they can be a check on his most extreme influences. hopefully, that is what we will see in 2018. and in 2020, democrats need to offer something new and future oriented that they can combat donald trump with. host: in matters of health care,

your pull looked at the current state of the aca versus single-payer. what did you find? ofst: we found the idea expanding and completing the aca, expanding coverage, tested above single-payer by seven points. it also tested above single-payer among a bigger margin by democrats, which surprised me. it was by nine points among democrats pay what i found was it was because liberal independents were driving that support for single-payer. those are probably your hard-core bernie people that are very liberal independents. independents we normally think about. in the democratic coalition, people said let's complete and build on the aca, not tear it down and start from scratch. , on ourom virginia independent line. chris, go ahead. caller: good morning. can you hear me? host: yes. you are on.

caller: i think the issue here is information and the corruption of information. i think moderates are very important one and comes to politics. but when it comes to voting, we have progressives and we have conservatives. there is a need for having both sides, because there is a need for direction. if you know which direction are going, you know where you're coming from. if you make a mistake, you can backtrack and fix it. we need information to know what we are doing. one our information is corrupted by buyers, a mix a harder for people who are well-meaning to determine the right way. guest: i think chris hit the nail on the head when he talks about people getting where they get the information. it is one of the reasons we get such polarization. people, more and more, are choosing to read the things i already agree with as opposed to having a kind of walter cronkite come all of us watch this one

thing, and we make from there, but we start with a common set of facts. that is why it is so important for people who live in an area that is politically concentrated, either blue or red, to find people of a different political background or try to expose themselves to other things, because that is how we will he able to stitch our country back together in a really good way. one of the things unique about the democratic party is that the base of ideological voters in the democratic party is smaller than it is in republican-winni ng coalitions. when republicans win president, around 70% or 35% of their voters are so described conservatives. for democrat, it is about half and half. half say they are moderates, and have say they are liberal. democrats cannot win an election the same way donald trump did. that is why i think they are the

better suited party to have this big tent, which is what we hope to see and build on. host: port st. lucie, florida, democrat line. caller: thank you for taking my call. is democrats, they do a good job, but not together. , after the takeover of power, everything goes down. if you need information, you do not know where to get something true. pastthing you know -- the is lost. but when you are on the problem, you cannot find anyone to give you something true. i think that is a problem. right now, i have some people, yeaars.e in four and still 30years

years, they are still working here. they will not deport them. host: thanks, caller. guest: it is true republicans are better at falling in line or party discipline. democrats have always had a messier coalition. in part because of that, democrats have to build a bigger tent of broad ideologies in order to have a winning coalition am a because the base is broader paid with republicans, they are good at falling in line. even ones who questioned donald trump a forehand are standing behind him. i do not think that is necessarily what you would have if you had a party takeover like you have seen on the republican side on the left. there is always a more complicated quilt we need to make on the democratic party to bring everyone together. i think folks are really united

right now around one thing -- and that is beating donald trump. that is a very unifying message an idea throughout the democratic coalition. i think there will be a lot more conversations between now and 2020 about the best way to do that, but boy are we united on that goal. host: if the democrats take the house, what do you think about the leadership structure? are there changes needed? guest: the house has always been a very good representation of that big tent. especially when democrats were in the majority, what that means is they have won and a lot of those purple and red places. the new dem coalition, the future oriented, pragmatic, progressive democrats, they have an 86% win rate in the primaries. if folks are coming in, they candidates i am working with in those red and purple places,

they are very representative of their district. they are pragmatic. they want to stop donald trump to the caucus for the democratic party in the house, if they take back the majority, is going to be a very robust caucus that is actually heavily influenced by folks infolks and more the cent. i think they will be focused in a similar way that we saw after democrats took back the house in 2006 in investigating things and providing a check on the president. --t is something the entire that will take up plenty of time investigating and making sure there are not things that are going afoul. host: let's hear from stephen. caller: good morning. ask is,ould like to

everybody can see that the democratic party -- [indiscernible] i do not know where this party is. i think that is exactly the question we are all debating right now. theidterm elections, election is also -- is often a referendum on the president. we have seen that with passive ministrations. saying that we are going to that withcheck on -- past administrations. the question is, where is the party going to go in 2020? providing every american

everywhere he opportunity to have a good life is something that 8 -- unites going forward. ann, hello. caller: i think what happens is the democrats need to have a or maybe two people who can respond specifically to the republicans when they tweet out there lies or misinformation. the democrats need to have their own press secretary. there is no one person who response. whatever is put out by the republicans, that stands and no one response to it. they need to get someone who everyone knows is going to be that person who will respond to the misinformation and to get out the democratic ideas and policies. i think chuck schumer

would say he is trying to do that. when you are the party out of power, the democrats are out of power at the federal and state level, that is a hard thing. you do not have the bully pulpit of the white house. i have a spreadsheet of 35 people who are considering running for president. this is the question that is going to have to happen over the next couple of years. the democrats are going to have to make a decision about who they want to be the standardbearer. i really hope that person is thinking about a big tent that can appeal to the entire country and especially those red and purple places. host: who are names at the top of that list? guest: i think there is still a lot of debate to go around that. having somebody who is outside of washington or who is new to politics is a great idea. folks are really frustrated with

some of the things going on here. there are a lot of dynamic, young leaders. i look forward to seeing how they can play out and what i am sure will be a raucous primary process. erickson joining us. thank you for your time. we are going to talk with national attorney mark zaid. we are going to talk about security clearances. ofer on, stephen bertoni ford -- of course talks about opportunity zones. those conversations coming up when we return.

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attorney here in washington, d.c.. guest: good morning. host: what is the purpose of a security clearance? guest: it is to have a trustworthy determination to grant access to classified information, which is done to about four to 5 million people. both civil servants and contractors. there are three levels of security clearances. confidential, secret, and top-secret. you rarely see confidential anymore. these are defined in an executive order that president clinton issued in 1995. it determines the level of harm that would occur where the information released without information. most of the time, we hear about top-secret clearance and d.c. terminology. host: if someone gets one of those clearances, what is the process of them getting one and what kind of things in their

background do they have to have or not have? guest: we get contacted a lot. someone calls and says what do i need to do to take care of a security clearance? you need to be sponsored by someone. either the u.s. government -- you are either an applicant or being hired by a federal agency or a contractor, which is going to have a contract with the u.s. government that would require government access to certain information. you go through a whole process. there are three basic requirements. you fill out the proper paperwork, which is called the standard forms. plus pages long. everything about your background. the standard form is seven years you go back. it may go back your entire life from when you were five.

-- not when you were five, but at least 18. you have to sign a nondisclosure agreement. ip forcument is called equ some people. you have to have a trustworthy determination by a u.s. federal agency. contractors do not decide that. you have to have what is called a need to know, which is a relevancy determination. do you really need to know that? if i am walking in the halls of the pentagon and i see someone i know and i see -- and i say, hey john, how are you doing? do i need to know or do i just say oh, i am working on this missile system. you might just say, hey mark. harry -- how it even? -- how have you been? host: if you want to ask questions about security clearances, democrats, (202) 748-8000, republicans, (202) 748-8001, independents, (202)

748-8002. according to the information we have, you referenced about 4 million plus people have these types of clearances. what do you think about the current argument being made by president trump about people in the former administration? what do you think about the government and -- about the argument? guest: it is a very common practice for individuals who are levels --in level, cabinet secretary's. for them to retain their clearances. usually, in this administration -- it is completely different. liberals might not apply. usually, for the last four or five decades, the individual and a position maybe three people later on will call their predecessors for advice based on

their experience and knowledge of situations. oftentimes, many of them go to work for defense contractors. they have their own need for access to classified information. there are 13 guidelines that the u.s. government uses to determine whether or not someone should lose a security clearance. disqualifying factors. they range from allegiance to the united states. we are talking about someone wanting to overthrow the u.s. government associating with tariffs -- associating with terrorists. the others are what people expect. you have drug or alcohol problems. mental health issues. foreign national contacts that raise an unacceptable risk. the problem that comes with this type of decision or thread is, about half and the numbers will

vary, but about half of any administration republican or democrat, the people who have the clearances are members of the other party. in 2016, it was something like 48% of americans were affiliated with democrats. it is probably a little bit different in the national security environment. it tends to be a little bit more conservative. it is not going to be a significant number of people. a third to 40 something percent is going to be the other party. if you're going to strip individuals of their clearances for political opposition, where does it stop? what is to say that we are not take away of it -- take away everyone who is of the other party for political reasons. if there are legitimate disqualifying factors -- for some of the individuals named, there are some legitimate disqualifying factors. host: such as?

guest: with james clapper, whether i agree i disagree, the allegation is he lied to congress. that is personal judgment. serious take incredibly whether or not an individual has lied on their forms or during an interview. that is a ground to revoke someone security clearance. there are mitigating factors. every this qualifying factor has mitigating factors. security clearance is all about mitigation. host: democrats, (202) 748-8000, republicans, (202) 748-8001, .ndependents, (202) 748-8002 who ultimately decides whether someone gets a clearance or not? guest: it is done by career civil servants who are in the security environment in each

agency. it will vary from agency to agency how the decisions are made. when i teach the subject at johns hopkins and the other lawyers around the country, the system is not completely arbitrary. it will vary with in an agency. it is not political in the sense that it buries from administration -- that it varies from administration to administration. there could be policy shifts. as we get further away from --minalization of marijuana anyone who has a clearance has to completely stay away from marijuana even though it may be legal in a particular state. we have never seen that i am of that a president of the united states even though he absolutely is the final arbiter and can decide who has authorized access -- i have

never seen a president get involved in what would be the weeds. it is delegated down to directors of an agency and down to security officers. in all the scandals we have had about the white house and rob porter, which was a big scandal a few months ago. jared kushner's access. the white house does not do its own investigations. some agencies do like the cia. most investigations are done by contractors through the office of personnel management. it is switching back over to the defense department. go individual determinations into that particular agency. at the white house, the office of security decide secret and top-secret. sci is usually decided by cia.

host: we have calls lined up for you. raymond, you are on. contract engineer -- i am a contract design engineer. i am curious. job interview -- [indiscernible] i explained who i am. end of the interview, he asked me, i like your resume. something, --you [indiscernible]

he said you cannot pass a security check. i am saying, wait a minute. host: raymond, thanks. guest: that is a good question. there are a few different components to that. starting positions in the u.s. government do not require actual security clearances. the president and vice president of the united states, members of , byress, federal judges virtue of their position, they are deemed trustworthy. we may challenge that with many individuals, but that is the way the system is. bankruptcy, the issue we always depends. bankruptcy can absolutely cause a problem.

any type of financial concerns. the u.s. government is still very much in a cold war mentality with respect to clearances. it looks back to historically, what has defined spies? from the 1930's until the 1990's and 2000s, financial issues motivated many spies. people who voted -- people who spied for the soviet union and russia. drugs, blackmail, alcoholism sure were big factors. debt was a big factor. fbirt hanssen from the received large sums of money. years, financial reasons have been the number one reason why people have been denied security clearances.

not surprising with the economic downturn in 2008. it is also the easiest one that can be mitigated, which is very depressing at times because most of the people who are denied clearances are -- clearances on financial grounds cannot afford a lawyer. the lawyer knows how to overcome it. it is very simple to often overcome it. you can have debt, you just have to show that you got there responsibly and are dealing with it. maybe not responsibly, but you got there through no fault of your own. maybe medical issues came up. that you are dealing with it responsibly. for the caller, the person was wrong and telling you you cannot get a clearance just because you had a bankruptcy. we try to avoid people going that route because it complicates it. without a doubt, you can still get a clearance. i have had numerous clients who we have got clearances even though they had a bankruptcy. even though they have had

significant debt. it depends on the maturity you show and the responsible level you show. are you ignoring it? i should say one thing. people do this all the time. when you have a debt, let's say a credit card debt. there are statutes that say you cannot -- they cannot collect on you after a period of time. they wash their hands of the debt because there is nothing they can do. that is not how the federal government looks at it. they looks at it, you legally owed this debt. you should still pay it. we still have people they debts -- pay debts that cannot be collected because the government looks at it in the sense of, if you are not willing to step up and show responsibility and judgment with your debt, why should we trust you with classified access when maybe you will decide you do not have to follow those rules?

that assuming that befalls a lot of people. host: independent line, maria. caller: good morning, pedro. i have three points i would like to question your guest about. the first one is, a form of sedition or subversion that was shown by brennan and maxine walters where they're trying to transform structures of power. also, resistance against lawful authority. to.nt ask about that the second thing i want to ask about his sanctuary theories -- sanctuary cities where they are flying in the face of federal law which has supreme override over immigration. why are these people entitled to any security? the third one is dual citizenship. i happen to know some people who have two passports. they used to which ever -- they use whichever one appeals to them. any of those apply

specifically to security? guest: let me go in reverse order. dual citizenship comes up a lot. it is lawful to have dual citizenship. some countries it is not, but here it is. it is not a problem to have a dual citizenship with a security clearance. the issue is whether you exercise that dual citizenship. do you have a foreign password -- foreign passport? that used to be a real problem. not as much anymore as long as the government is made aware of it. the concern is that you can travel on the other country's passport. so long as they know, it is ok. if you have dual citizenship, you should not vote in the other country's elections. that shows you are showing some sort of allegiance to the other country. serving another country's

military can be a problem. we see it all the problem -- we see it all the time especially with some college students going to israel. we can still overcome it, but these are issues that could be created. as you go to a higher level clearance or access, some of these become a little more restrictive. if you are married to a foreign national and even though you are only an american citizen, that can be an issue as well. dual citizenship by its nature, not a problem. sanctuary cities, not really connected to this issue. i will use that to say there are individuals in state governments and city governments who may have access to classified information particularly because there are terrorist threats they need to be made aware of. i not sure about from an immigration standpoint if they would have access to classified

information. the subversion issue goes back to what the president is talking about now. if you want with, to say lawfully overthrow the u.s. government and the sense of voting someone out and lobbying for legislation, as long as you ,re not violating the hatch act you can exercise the rights that you have as an american citizen. it would cross over to a problem ,f it goes into guideline a allegiance to the united states. i think i have seen two or three of those cases. they were peripheral. they rarely come up because you do not see many terrorists organized crime members china get security clearances. zaid is joining us. from virginia, good morning. caller: a quick question.

i refined my initial question after listening. i had a clearance actually. just going through the process, they ask a lot of questions. who you consult with and who -- and are you able to be blackmailed and so forth. has there ever been a situation where someone who has a clearance level due to pending investigation, has it ever been suspended where they are no longer getting information? how much does this impact national security if someone does have a clearance and it is determined they are being cohorts with a court -- with a foreign agency or intelligence? how much of a security concern is that for those who have clearances? clearances are granted on an interim basis. this was a high-profile issue

with rob porter and jared kushner. interim clearances are a good thing. once you fill out the initial paperwork and the government looks through your report and checks your arrest history, there will be an initial decision on whether or not they are deserving based on the written record whether they should get interim access. the access can be pulled at any given time. that was the discussion about op-ed from then usa today. because of the different timeline as to when the government learned certain information and should that have impacted his interim clearance? if an interim clearance is suspended, which happens, it could be that in the interim, maybe the person marries a foreign national while their investigation is underway. maybe they are from a country

with an unacceptable risk. we do not use the term full clearance. i fight with my colleagues and clients all the time. no permanent clearances. they tell me they cannot come up with a better word. what is the opposite of interim? i don't know, i just hate the word permanent because there is no such thing as a permanent security clearance. it is always undergoing evaluation. host: can you talk about the? this idea of continuous evaluation? if an interim is suspended, there is no due process. only if you are denied a revoke do you get administrative remedies. -- tell me what

you just said again. host: devaluation, what that means. guest: -- evaluation what that means. guest: to situations that have a common denominator. the u.s. government to not know edward facts about snowden and aaron alexis. aaron alexis had mental health issues. the adjudicative agency the not know about it. did notwden, the nsa know he was a booze allen -- booz allen hamilton contractor. in order to avoid -- the way the u.s. government works is that it is reactive instead of proactive. reactive when laser precision is needed.

unlike in a criminal context when we would rather have 10 guilty people do free than one innocent person go to prison, and the civil side, the national security arena, we would rather have 99 people lose their security clearances unfairly instead of the one guilty might be,tever it causing damage. continuous evaluation has become normal last two years. it means what it basically sounds. there is more affirmative requirements people to self-report. i got a rested. i am hanging out with a fourth national. as well as the government is doing paper checks. check in for financial issues like we talked about. or arrests that they have not self-reported. you would be amazed at how many people, do not report certain

things that are really obvious, like a rest. host: was go to mclean, virginia. i have had a clearance for , but is related to the security breach of personal information. passage ready clearances -- we did get aat security clearance. my concern is, will we have post breach of monitoring. withl the information, respect to whoever has the information and when they publicly use the information. and the protectorate of individuals. guest: it is a great question and for those of us is that

security clearances and i filled out paperwork, it is of great concern. systemears ago, opn's was breached. it is suspected that it was the chinese government that grabbed millions of forms and their social security numbers are in there, some very personal and potentially embarrassing information. sometimes classified information is contained on these forms. it is not supposed to be but i know of people who will have mistakenly put down classified information or have been instructed to do so in violation of what the policy is. the u.s. government gave us each the appeared of time to free credit monitoring to see if something might happen, if it was a foreign power that grabbed the information, it is using for intelligence purposes. in that sense, i suppose most of us will be safe. the problem could be, depending on who grabbed it, what do they

to the seller to organize crime or other entities that could use it for financial data mining or creating fake identities in credit problems. the government will only give us certain. the time until we are on our own. i'm sure that if it happens the hill if someone at level, you'll see more attention given to it. host: what is the most personal thing that asked you? any process of determining whether you get when or not. guest: the form itself is pretty basic. the form will come up. is called the national security questionnaire. it was ask you about arrests. on the form, arrest can be very personal. issues,, mental health although the government is

becoming very protective heard you can have a mental health issue and still get a clearance rate it is all about, is a treatable? add and ocd, those are not of concern to the u.s. government. bipolar disorder and schizophrenia become important. interviews and especially at agencies that require polygraph examinations, which are usually law enforcement and intelligence agencies, they can get into questions of sexual behavior that can be embarrassing. pornography issues might get discussed. obviously weaphy, care about that. interestingly, affairs. extramarital affairs. to the u.s. concern government because it could be grounds for coercion or blackmail. homosexuality is no longer an issue, thankfully, unless the individual is trying to hide it.

just like in action marital affair, ittramarital blackmail. it asked if you are engaged in a extramarital affair that your spouse is not aware of? do you think i be a question on the form? because it is why. i think too many people would not have a security clearance or apply for one and the u.s. government if that was on the form. those are the types of issues that could come up. cases had some strange which will not discuss about sex with animals which is always interesting. there can be some embarrassing information that comes up. host: and national security attorney to talk about the process of security clearance. thank you for joining us. coming up, the your money segment. stephen bertoni discussing his recent piece

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wash the communicators tonight at eight eastern on c-span two. washington journal continues. at this timeonday with offer a your money segment taken a look at -- by the federal government for not only what they cost what they accomplished. here to join us from new york to talk about a recent piece taking a look at the tax law, and how it affected those wealthy in particular. media who served as the vice president and senior editor, good morning. guest: good morning. thanks for having me. host: we start; opportunity. before you get to the nuts and bolts of the story, can you explain what those are but why these particular tax provisions true your interest? rare: this is a very thing. it is a bipartisan tax law that went in quietly and the

republican tax reform. what it does is the idea of opportunity, the goal is to have an incentive for wealthy people and companies to take unrealized gains sitting on a balance sheet and invested into america's most impoverished communities. that can be in her cities, rural. there is a massive potential like a roth ira, if you put your money in these zones, it will grow. if you keep it there for 10 years, you'll get reduced taxes and any investment is held for 10 years, it grows on tax. host: how did the tax law and of having this provision? i got the driving force and what legislators were involved. guest: this is a unlikely story with an unlikely group of , philanthropists, and billionaires all work together over 10 years. it all started with sean parker,

the facebook billionaire and founder of nafta. he was facebook's first president. saw all of idea, he these impoverished areas outside of san francisco and d.c. and then he would turn around and there is office friends in a silicon valley sitting on millions, sometimes billions of tax -- investment gains. he was thinking, how do i get that money sitting on the sidelines and push it to the area that need capital the most. senator booker was one of the sponsors of the bill, along with tim scott eared he is saying these areas, we are plenty of entrepreneurs and plenty of great ideas. parker had to come up with an idea of how to come up with this capital into these opportunity zones. host: just to be clear, if i am a investor, and five money coming in from capital gains,

why the mechanics of me wanting to invest in this? how does that work? basically, let's say there are people sitting on massive capital gains, may made a real estate investment or there is a mutual fund. and he had $1 million. --,can sell it and take about 25%. or, you can invest in a thing called opportunity fund. these have not started yet but they'll be coming this year. what these funds to do is that you take the gains. you put that into an opportunity fund and hold it for 10 years. he did not have any gains for that million dollar. give a great compounding effect. is reduced bybase 50%, and see any money that goes into the opportunity fund, keep it there for 10 years, that will

grow tax-free. if you put a million dollars in an 10 years later it is worth 2 million, even not pay any tax. host: does the zone, the opportunity zones, do they have to meet certain requirements to be classified as a low income area? forces ofe deciding whether the zones can exist or not? guest: it is a two-step process. first of all, it is based on census data. census tract had to have a poverty rate that was at least 20% of the population or higher, or the family household income had to be 80% of the surrounding area. unfortunately, there was plenty of tax that made that criteria. 8700 of these opportunity zones. they were hand-picked. in most cases, a quarter of the zones in each state were designated opportunity zones. these are based on two things.

in the game,skin the federal government is saying this is a zone, they will support and pick places they think will win. not every zone will work out. the governors are looking with councilman and mayors of the cities, taking the ones that will win. having the highest chance of succeeding. they can really recover and thrive. our guest is certain talk about his opportunity zones, where they exist. him,u have questions for 202) 748-8000 for democrats, (202) 748-8001 four republicans. someone is asking what is the money amounts i can be allowed a why can this be open to middle-class areas not low income areas? guest: what makes is very

powerful is that it is unlimited. there are other policies in the past, whether it is new enterprise tax praise -- tax breaks, this is unlimited. if a investor wanted to put $1 million into an opportunity fund, they can do it. if they want to put a billion dollars in an opportunity fund, they can do it. the upside potential is uncapped. facebook had been started and was an opportunity zone, if you invest in vasa, all of those games would be tax-free. upside,n dollars millions maybe even trillions of dollars, six trillion dollars of unrealized capital gains on the sidelines. between individual investors and corporations. we have a really big character. it puts money, overlooking places. it is uncapped. forbes thatory in

shows opportunity zones as they currently exist across united states, highlighted three areas, new work new jersey, stockton california and mentor is county colorado. how do these work in a zone? guest: all of these maps a like i forgot to mention, when sean parker got those issues going, he founded a think tank. did an incredible job lobbying investigating. get a to eng.org new can detailed interactive map to see were the action is. we picked those three as examples of places. are urban. in one role. the idea is that these are places that have major problems,

but they've great potential. they have assets. they have population that could really put my to work. opportunities, they are a tool. at the end of the day, it is the marketplace and the investors who put money where the money will work. we can talk about other things. let's take new work for an example. it is less than 10 miles from manhattan. it has great infrastructure with the trains in transit. it is surrounded by wealthy suburbs. there is many universities. are places that have infrastructure and have a location, but they do not have the capital. they do not have the investment. stockton is on the other side of the coast. an hour away from sacramento, and i way from san francisco. these are places that can thrive

if the investment goes in. we have a couple of calls lined up for you. she is in florida, the independent line. you're on with our guest, go ahead. >> i think it is a good idea in our own city, we have enterprise , and the investors that have done affordable housing projects, usually for social benefit that you have these enterprise zones. this would be a way to create jobs for people. one thing i would like to see, is if social media companies and internet companies that are generating this opportunity zone concept, i think we should program, then these companies of be compelled to train u.s. citizens without employable -- to do the jobs

internet industry. that should go hand in glove with his opportunity. yet an interesting point. the cool thing with opportunity you invite only players in. you have government building up infrastructure in making laws, to induce enterprising capital. you have the investors putting money and the. you also have philanthropists. i was looking at stock jim sorenson. whether their impact investing with the government or even with philanthropists to set of amazing job training. to their a local population so these opportunities come in, not only to the company that tax breaks, they have a educated workforce to employ that.

the key is not bring out the people in. you want to able to empower the local community living in areas. whether by training, in tech, service, or anything. to really help make this work. this is about empowering the area around it. you went to help the indigenous people who've lived in those towns and communities to thrive. job training is important host: worried republican line, go ahead. good morning. i work for a real estate investment company and i am curious to know if a investor purchases a property in one of these opportunity zones and sells the property before the tenure window is up, do they still benefit from any capital gains? -- if you rolle ae money over, if you make real estate sale and invest the

proceeds into another opportunity zone, it carries over and rolls over. given you a chance to push it forward. we're talking about real estate, it is a great opportunity for real estate investors everywhere. the key is you're not buying the property is sitting on them. once you buy the property, yet to invest into improvements. if you're buying a place for a million dollars, if do a million dollars renovation. host: had it senator tim scott become part of this process? guest: he was the ultimate driving force in this. he pushed it through with this. zone, it is anity great scene with tim scott. they are going to tim scott's

old neighborhood in north charles it. he grew up with this and he has havewhat happens when you people with great ideas and motivation. he thought many great people die in the vines. a deeply personal problem. also, he loves it because it is market-based and he has investors make decisions. ahead.rom nebraska, go our republican line. i was talking to a federal agent, and he said once the money is handed over from , they cannot grab it back if it is being misused.

that always worries me because there is always a loophole. host: is that the case? guest: no parity the rules have not been put down. when i talked to tim scott in tori booker, abuse is a big concern. treasury is a close eye on this stuff. they will enforce it. is there room for abuse? yes. the government is watching these things. misuse? absolutely. if you can raise of these communities, the most dire community in america, if you can make improvements, there are loopholes. i think the treasury will go by fast. they do not want this to run away from them.

we have a tweet from a viewer who says wealthy tax breaks given to wealthy -- appropriate from the longtime residents whatever remaining intrinsic value or amenities exist and take it out of the community. does this program exacerbate that? it justuite a tweet or tweet. a bipartisan policy. over 100 lawmakers find it. almost half republican, almost tough democrat. this is bipartisan by design on both sides of the aisle. taking the this is purpose of finance investing. put in an places where people need it. that is the policy. it is not taking money away from these communities. the idea to put money into the communities. they have to be safeguarded at

the local level. that could be having policies in place whether it is impact investing. or allowing people in these communities to have jobs and companies. homes, that way that happens, and cost-of-living increases, you get to write up at that price increase. one of the spinoffs could be --. it could be forced to go up in other places. is that a reality? guest: that is a reality anywhere. host: independent line. caller: good morning. this they fascinating topic. my question is, specific. laws, the woman spoke about enterprise, and the state of florida, we have a

revitalization program referred to as hub zone. i know this is to incentivize jobs and benefits for all citizens in these areas. what would be new in the --. i appreciate you being on the show in sharing this with us today. i am not familiar with the hub taxes. thatrms of the incentives this brings together, for the whole program? host: she is already gone. if there was something in her call but you want to take on? the most important thing is unlimited. it is unlimited opportunity, you can invest in most businesses. place have been powerful.

at the same time, this is the market picking metoo. you can invest in any kind of business and any amount of money. in terms of upset potential terms about tax avoidance. think of the word unlimited for this whole thing. oversight, will this take place truly on the local level with the federal oversight? it is both. right now, we are waiting for the final details of this. -- van to find a way to track it and to measure it. the mayors in the governors have local control. whether it is zoning laws or affordable housing laws, that does not change anything. whatever way it is set up, to protect people and to put curbs on business. those are made in tact.

we are talking about billions of dollars of potential tax breaks. they don't anybody chevy free ride out of it. it is both. local level was zoning laws, and federal level with taxes. host: vincent, good morning. good morning. now, i'm 64 years old. 40 years ago, i earned eight dollars an hour. 40 years later, folks are still earning nine, 10, $11 an hour. cars were $2500. have a $25,000. what i wanted to say, it will be the same thing. these opportunities help the rich, and the money does not trickle down. elitey, the greed of the in this country have destroyed our nation. until capitalism is tweet to

benefit more people and a fair system, we will this over and over again. as a lose our neighborhoods and people become more despaired, they work every day but they cannot make a living. until this is a dress, i don't care what you do. with the elite in the corporations do, it is not going to save our nation. host: thank you, color. was at a question? poverty andwith inequality has been with you and since humans have been around. no clarence on this and want to go back to opportunity zone. when i talk to tim scott, he was saying that people will pay to this in many ways. know how it will

affect the world until it is out there. says, i've seen evidence of what happens and people don't do anything with these communities. they have been passed over, forgotten, neglected. this law is a experiment and we'll see what happens. it is a incentive to put capital into these areas. will it work everywhere? absolute not. we will see. host: democrat line. question and aa comment. the question is, is it possible under this law for some organization that i respect, like vanguard to form a group and put together smaller groups of unrealized capital and to its big package to meet whatever criteria there might be, then to allow smaller investors and not just billionaires who can buy

the whole thing and do the whole thing, allow a cooperative effort to ask what this and benefit the communities in the process. the comment i can come back to is -- this law many ways, can act like a 401(k) or a roth ira. any type of long-term investment. ira, you are limited to 5500 bucks a year to invest in ira. if you're lucky enough to have extra cash, there is an opportunity to invest in these opportunities. -- can poole like a all this money and have a giant fund to invest. it has not happened yet but there's no reason why cannot. host: steve, you're next. theer: my question is about -- taking targets for these

opportunity zones. that if he didn more research and picture targets carefully, you could ask the have a chance at success and you could eliminate a lot of chance for the correction. it is a great point. the governor of each state worked with the mayors to pick the zones. they want to make opportunity zones in cities and communities that have a fighting chance. this will be all about collusion, but collusion and the best way. you went to have all the money pour in. you want to have real estate investors fixing the housing. coming in and doing job training and getting home loans to people who can't afford them. in andinvestors coming have it start up.

this has to be holistic. yet to pick a place that was governed by mayors and counsel philanthropists and venture capitalists. that is how this will work. it is 8700 opportunity zones, only a handful will probably blossom. one of those mayors you talk to with the mayor of stockton, california question mark what it you learn? caller: he is all in. guest: in some ways, many people are familiar with the amazon take off. try ,trengths and weaknesses similar things are happening with the opportunity zones. certain mayors are getting super prepared, when these opportunity funds exist, he wants to be ready.

he is working with business leaders, real estate developers, .niversities he wants everyone on board to have a complete package and make this as welcoming as he can. is going to be hurting mentality. if you are a mayor and this kind of investment, you need to have a package ready. our doors are open, come invest in us. he is going all in on us, this one of his major priorities. host: how is success to gauge for this investment? there is two ways. .he financial way of profit the key thing of this opportunity zone, people living in these communities better off. the investment, the whole purpose of this is to help the local communities.

with betters lifestyle, lower cost, better jobs. improvement for the people living there. host: south carolina, independent line. caller: good morning. withld just like to agree whoever calls from new jersey. these economic opportunities is laughable. it is going to encourage gentrification of inner cities and drive poor people out. it has not been like this since the 1930's. this notion that these rich people are doing anybody a favor but themselves, is laughable. again, we do not know. this is not happened yet. in have mayors like --

really rough towns in stockton, who is supportive of this. cory booker with the mayor of new work and was trying to help the city. these are people who live this life. they are working in the inner cities and improve the inner cities. in many cases like tim scott, they grew up in communities. yet to talk to them. some rich guy who is sitting here for a tax break. this they very successful politician that came from these neighborhoods and their making this happen. host: one more call from arizona. caller: good morning. you know, i tend to be very skeptical of big money heard -- money. please bear with me. 1971, nixon set up so we would

have the gold standard anymore. happened, our economy was 18 times stronger than the second ranked economy in the world. is that something very good? it is worried host: you have to advance it to the question or comment. caller: like this going forward stuff. when you hear the term going forward, what it does for people, do not look back, look forward. host: as far as euthanizing with a place for this program, when should we expect to see results as far as investment is concerned? guest: not sure on the exact timing, but i was told in 2019

we will get all the details. in the meantime, everyone is working on this. people are getting mayors like michael thompson getting the city's ready. while there is nothing official down from treasury yet, the big players are already on the move. host: the star you can find is that the forbes website. you can read his work there. thank you for your time. guest: thank you for having me. will have open phones until the end of the program. coming up on washington journal continues.

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process onnfirmation c-span, lead up to the confirmation hearing and the vote. watch live on c-span did or anytime on c-span.org. washington journal continues. at c-span wj or our facebook page, you are more than welcome to do so. you can call the lines. in -- the wall street journal highlights what to expect tomorrow at the trial for paul manafort. this is -- writing that prosecutors have accused mr. metaphor of not paying taxes on 30 million of income for his work on pro-russian policies. misleadingaccused of

banks to obtain millions of loans in 2015 and 2016 as his ukraine income dried up. the spokesman declined to comment. accused him of -- a pair briefly in court. the exhibits his team as administering pieces of evidence they plan to produce. including the defendant emails, financial statements, and purchases he allegedly made. said that his team will mention during trial. whether colluded with russia and the 2016 election, they would need to briefly addressed his role with the trump campaign. let's go to riverdale, maryland. jason, hello. i read over the weekend,

about the use of the presence charter flan. with recent health and human services secretary, that is a bad connotation. that is great thing about who is paid for that plane. summit to be looked at. hase prisons everybody images of white-collar prison for politicians, and maybe even the team. what conditions are they living in? jails?s that very from president, what a great opportunity for congress. why can't they do this? numbers, ife anything they agree on to get the limits on the executive branch.

for executive orders and terrorists, it is very dangerous and it seems like the houses 12 years fromther now. host: was go to larry in south dakota. caller: good morning. i want to, on the last fellow. i don't see where he had any knowledge of anything that dealt with, his satellite here is putting together a scheme. if you go to depressed areas, what will you build there. you're trying to get these people, what will they have convenience stores, or casinos. think -- yet to find a way of doing what he says. it sounds like dumping money into a big pot so they can steal

it. the president holds a press conference with the italian prime minister at 2:00 this afternoon. also the president's choice for the supreme court will be meeting with west virginia's democratic senator joe mansion. lookout for those things and other things happening at our website. , a senate is still remaining lot of activities in and around washington, d.c.. you can follow along with that c-span.org. dorothy in florida. thank you for taking my call. i have been a democrat and a republican and now i am independent. i have never in my life heard anything so disgusting as a person we called -- call it president. i have a note to all these evangelicals.

how hypocritical can you be. to, i am sohe goes disgusted with them. i am so glad i was bored in the north cut i would be so ashamed to be part of the south and how they treat black people. they brought him here to begin with and what they got free, they will have anything to do with them. i am disgusted and the way this country is going. 77 and close to being on my way out. host: hello. caller: thank you for taking my call. i am confused about something, , there helping them build a law. that mexico pay for the law, how come he's getting

the feedback. host: if you go to the boston globe website, they have a story about -- taking a story -- just to redo a company -- couple opening sentences. ordering u.s. citizens not suspected of a crime on any terrorist watch collecting extensive information about their movements of behavior under new domestic surveillance programs that is drying criticisms. the previously undisclosed program specifically targets travelers who are not under investigation by any agency. in march, the internal bulletin describes the programs as commercial aircraft, by unknown are partially known terrorists. the agency has broad discretion ifr which areas to focus on you go to the boston globe's website, this is open phone.

from herndon, virginia, john is next. caller: good morning. say, first of all, paul manafort is making a big mistake. i'm sure he has a lot of --. in the government is finding them, he was from the rest of his life in jail. my call here is that i am angry about this president and how it is affecting the media. i think he is messing with the wrong people. you do not mess with the washington post and new york times. they will kick you to the grave if they have to. the bottom line here is the american people should realize that we are in a different day, we need to understand that you get a green light.

furthermore, we just sent a tape to donald trump, so you want to make sure his lawyer records everything. if the president doesn't get paid, that is the problem. think you for taking my call. in georgia in a democrats line. caller: good morning. one thing i like about what trump is doing, is what the republican party is all about. yourself,e me and they will never be -- get harm in this. the republican party is showing one thing, that they are superior over all nationalities in this country. from the whites the premise group that he calls find people, of the 87%.

republicans and democrats, not only that, racism is coming in also. it is sad. that is why they hate hillary. she is a white freedom writer. the republican party, were trump is, -- host: that is herbert from georgia. the washington times takes a look at firearm companies and how they are reacting to the numbers of requests for background checks. federal gun purchase background checks leveled off in june after the free consecutive record-setting month. driven activism is doing to the bottom line, not a perfect correlation. background checks are considering --. on the fbi's national instant check system, slightly compared

to 2017, the monthly record set march, april, and may after the valentine's day shooting in florida. numbers from the national shooting sports foundation, a leading trade group shows a 12% decline last month to jenna 2017. after high-profile mass shooting, interests, subsided. downingtown pennsylvania, go ahead. to supportm calling the comments from the woman from florida who says she is ashamed to be an american. this man's dishonesty and his collusion, in cooperation with the russians, it is all unacceptable. we need to have the republican party stop enabling him and being complicit. it is extraordinary that we will feel this way and feel that we are no longer part of this country. that we are actually getting

and leave the country in the hands of other people because we are so discouraged. it is very disappointing but at echo her opinion. line.republican the president's lips are moving, he is lying. he is get a propaganda, not pulsing government. trump is for trump. he cannot have the decency to show his tax returns. he is a termite worried -- termite. he is ruining the foundation of our democracy. host: the wall street journal on actions of north korean leader kim jong in saying that mr. kim having declared his nuclear program complete and claimed his place in the world stage next to the u.s. president, has begun to on peopleention

following months of visits to military related sites. trips to other- daily welfare of people. affectt appear to economic development. country andon his have control of economic activity. now it is everything for the u.s.my, a former intelligence official and a visiting scholar at stanford university. grandfather,er and his make a habit of on the spot guidance. while highlighting his to visitness, factories in food facilities. until now, on most have been in and around pyongyang. anthony in new york, good morning. caller: good morning.

listening to your callers, i was hoping to say two things. they should never resort to slandering when speaking about the president. stick to the facts and examples of what he is doing wrong. he is a real estate developer and investor. in 2008, we did bill out the entire industry. it only makes sense in our society except it seem as if we are making -- those whom we aside, iery -- that moderator,to ask the in the future, when you have people from the security field, about spying on americans in had it not been for the patriot acts, what they're doing in the way they're using these technologies to spy on america, would any of it be legal or constitutional?

i don't think that it is in a we need toquestion, look at 9/11 because i think that has morphed our society and our culture. it has allowed a police state to take control. everywhereis cameras , the way the controlled technologies being used to control and manipulate society. thank you for all of the program and you guys do and i hope you would do something on nuclear power and the devastating effects it will have on the environment. host: the democrats line. don't you know that when made was president, he sure that his administration could not make automatic weapons through three printers? don't you know this administration allowed this gentleman to go ahead and put on

the internet how -- by printing out. i do not know why people don't want to be concerned about wekground checks because have a lot of being manufactured in their homes. this is ridiculous, with the trump administration is doing to allow more people. the gun their plastic so they andgo through airports security, they can do a lot damage the plastic guns. i think that is totally ridiculous. guilty of an evil thing to do. everyone in the world with ar 15 with no background checks, that is ridiculous. and local station in kansas city, missouri. downloading blueprints to the 3-d printer.

programa came from the defense distributed. he poses blueprints online five years ago. back, there was a legal battle last week. the gun will return august 1 and can be produced on a 3-d printer without a serial number. dangers with 3-d printed firearms. the operator of hammer's face community workshop in kansas city said mostly because. republican line. caller: congratulations. you finally got a republican on the republican line. i've never heard so many trump hate colors in a long time.

why the womannd and man are so digested and looking forward to dying. is, trump is winning. the reason is, he continues to win. economy is dormant. the democrats get depressed over it. what are the values. you are read from sources against trump. accurate articles on the new post,imes, the washington they are absolutely ridiculous. they are becoming slanted it is ashamed what these folks are

turning into. what makes a trustworthy? caller: it is not all positive. that is one thing. host: what makes a trustworthy? caller: because they back it up. host: how so? caller: check it out yourself. what makes the washington post credible? billy is next to -- next appeared caller: i have a degree in mass communications. , when i would to school and graduated, communication schools were 99% liberal. vietnam -- came out

i think there are two conservatives in the entire department. the -- is controlled by liberals. one of the things i would like to tell a lot of folks, you guys have burned that car way too many times. , fbi crime stats says there is no white and hispanic people killed by cop. don't try to play the race card. the race card does not work. i am a sympathetic guy. i volunteered to go to vietnam. communications, , you're supposed of two sources to promote a story. all you have today is anonymous

sources. host: robin in indiana, republican line. first of all, i wanted , the gun issue. plastic, butbe bullets are not. it was not the trump administration, it was the circuit court. anything to do with trump and his administration, it was an actual court. as more of a left leading court. got called in, one is a republican. president, ifhe demonize continued to

over a. of time, people are easily impressionable. they will start to believe what they hear, even if it is not true. even she says there is collusion. that cannot be farther from the truth. that is robert in indiana. fortune magazine highlights justice ruth bader ginsburg. she is not plan on retiring for another five years. if you want to see that, that is at the fortunes website. let's hear from independent line. caller: i wanted to comment about the guns. i'mso wanted to say that surprised that the republican they created donald trump,

as when obama is taking credit and theyf this, nobody seems to be able to draw that line. i apologize because the signal is degrading. the as the last call for this program. in other one comes your way at 7:00 this morning. see you tomorrow. ♪ [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2018]

>> coming up later today on c-span, the national -- chuck grassley, recorded hercretly calls with monaco in. --ional whistleblower day live coverage on c-span. then, president trump holds a news conference with the time prime minister -- in the white house rose garden which will also be live here on c-span. tonight on the communicators, british conservative party reutersnterviewed by and telecom reporter --

>> do you see any dislocation of those post brexit? >> yes, there are a number of concerns. one thing that tech companies complain about in the movement is the global count -- global talent. london is a leader in many areas in europe or globally. one of the things i am saying is hopefully, it will have a policy we actually don't get -- but you reach out to the best people in the world. >> watch the communicators tonight at 8:00 eastern on c-span two. sunday night on q&a, congressional historian richard baker, donald richie. >> one thing i hear people asking all the time, is this the most uncivil time in history?

certainly, the years leading to the civil war, when a host member came over and became senator in 1856 because he disagreed with what was said. >> there is a broadway musical about shooting alexander hamilton. that is pretty dramatic. we have had terrible times, political times. there was one in 1858 before the civil war, that had 80 members rolling around on the floor fighting one another. told his wigmbers off during the fight. someone else yelled he skipped something pair [laughter] that was enough levity to stop .he fight congressional historian's sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span's q&a.

>> this august on american ourory tv on c-span3, watch nine part series of 1968, america in turmoil. each night, we look back 60 years to the tumultuous year, the rise of the political left and right. starting monday, august six, we discussed the vietnam war. tuesday, august 7, the campaign of the year. civil rights and race relations. been a discussion about liberal politics and friday, august 10, conservative politics. saturday, august 11, women's rights. then we will look at the media's role. monday, a discussion about the vietnam war at home. tuesday, we close out the

serious looking at the cold war. america in turmoil, august 6 through august 14. on americanstern on c-span3. >> the discussion on the democratic party's agenda. we hear from former senator mary landrieu and three democratic congressman. including john delaney, who was running for president. this is about an hour. >> to the second part of this discussion is about the social compact, the new bargains we have to strike to get business, the new bargains we have to strike to get business, labor and government together to underpin upward mobility for people who are working-class people, people who don't have medication. to get the middle income jobs. so too we are lucky to have our good friend congressman john delaney from maryland. he is an entrepreneur and the only member of congress to h