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don't. and then retired army lieutenant colonel ralph peters discusses child administration foreign-policy. washington journal's next. host: good morning, it is monday, august 6. the house and senate are away this week. we are with you for the next three hours. we will talk about 3-d printed guns and the future of the democratic party. we began hearing from you about your level of concern about security in the midterm elections. are you worried about the integrity of elections? -- hasress and the top congress and the trump administration done enough? democrats, (202) 748-8000, republicans, (202) 748-8001, independents, (202) 748-8002.

morning ford this those who have served as election officials or work at polling stations, (202) 748-8003. begin also catch up with us on social media -- you can also catch up with us on social media. a very good monday morning to you. you can start calling and now. we are talking about security of the election. we take you back to thursday at the white house when senior intelligence and security officials for the trump administration check to the white house briefing room to talk about the scope of russian involvement in the election. here is senior director of national intelligence dan coats from thursday talking about the scope of the threat. >> our focus here today is simply to tell the american

people we acknowledge the threat. it is real. it is continuing. we are doing everything we can to have a legitimate election. that the american people to have trust in. that goes beyond the election and russia's intent to undermine our democratic values and drive a wedge between our allies. we are looking at that also. today, we are here to talk about the elections coming up. >> are we talking about rogue russian individuals or the kremlin? >> both. you can even add to that. russia has used numerous ways. through social media, through actors, through proxies.

all of the above and potentially more. i cannot go into deep details. what is presented -- what a pervasive -- what is pervasive is the intent to drive a wedge and undermine our democratic values. host: after that briefing, politico cyber security reporter eric geller had this to say. the briefing with the administration, the most unified -- it was a striking contrast to the president's muddled comments about interfering alongside vladimir putin where trump shocked even his own aides by seeking to give equal weight against the conclusion of his own intelligence chief. yesterday on the sunday shows, this topic came up. senator amy klobuchar was on meet the press.

i am very concerned that you could have a hack that finally went through. you had 21 states that were hacked. you did not find out about it for a year. there is now a requirement that they tell the individual secretary of state immediately. you also have the fact that you have the president undermining this on national tv. still after his security people. they go in front of the people and say this is happening. he says that night at a rally in pennsylvania that it is a hoax. there are some very good people working on it. i would love to see this broadened out so we start to discuss the threats to our power grid system. the threats to our financial system. the russians are not just stopping at the election equipment. >> are the president's comments

undermining national security? >> i think they do. you have these people who are security people, who are intelligence people. when he stood next to vladimir putin and sided with him over the intelligence people, it sent the same message to the world. i wish he would listen to these people. what we have right now is a set of facts between democrats and the republicans in the senate and a common purpose to protect our democracy. host: amy klobuchar mentioned her legislation in the clip. acts the secure elections that she filed earlier. she is the tea -- the chief democratic cosponsor. it is a measure designed to coordination among federal and state agencies when it comes

to sharing information about a federal threat. we want to hear from you this morning for this first segment of the washington journal. are you worried about the security of the 2018 elections? a special line for those who work at polling stations. we want to hear your thoughts. jack is in providence, rhode island. go ahead. caller: yes. i did. happenedall, this all prior to donald trump even having any kind of governmental authority. i find it amazing that he is being targeted. i think barack obama was president during this period of time. they anticipated that hillary clinton wins. when donald trump won the system got shocked. that is why this all is coming out now. it is an overall frame up.

host: bring us to today. how concerned are you heading into november? we are less than 100 days away. caller: i am not because they have had plenty of time to work on the issue. if they have not taken care of this problem by now, it is a lot of and confidence going on or they wanted to happen. as a counterintelligence measure as well. you can see i know what i'm talking about. furthermore, i want to get into another issue. people.nceling white she wants to have a white genocide. host: jack, we are going to stick to election security. how worried are you about the security of the 2018 election? charles is in spring hill, tennessee. caller: i think everyone should be concerned about america

having 17 intelligence agencies. trump had made a few comments. that wehe was not aware had 17 intelligence agencies. totally failed us for not telling us that before. this little country called russia with its small military budget, everyone should be concerned. i am not concerned -- this is height. hillary clinton and the democrats lost the election to donald trump. as an independent, i am smart enough to know state news. i'm smart enough to look on the internet and verify what i see. if you call yourself an intelligent american and you are swayed by fake news, you should not vote. host: charles, what is fake news

when it comes to election security? are you concerned about what we just showed you? about: what i'm concerned is that the democrats and hillary clinton is not taking credit for losing to donald trump. no fake news. i do not accept the premise. no fake news. nothing influenced the election except an inferior candidate. host: tony is a democrat in pleasantville, new jersey. caller: good morning. i think it is going to continue. they are not really concerned. what we need to be concerned about is what happened at the trump tower meeting where trump admitted that they had the meeting. host: and why are you so concerned, tony?

do you want to elaborate, tony? that is tony in new jersey. the president tweeting about that meeting over the weekend. president trump acknowledging that the meeting his son held with the russian lawyer was an attempt to get information on hillary clinton but defended the encounter as legal. mr. trump and his eldest son repeatedly denied the president had advanced knowledge of the trump tower meeting. the meeting has become a prominent focus in special counsel robert mueller's investigation into whether president trump colluded with russia and whether the president and his aides sought to obstruct justice by asserting the meeting focused only on adoptions. plenty of stories on that. celeste, west virginia. caller: i think the governor of west virginia who is a democrat

switched over without being elected. faith becausemuch just because you -- during the obama days, he turned from a republican to a democrat when the health care came out. i have not seen c-span denounce the caller that said he would killed don lemon and lebron james. the people who take these calls, they screen these people who they do not like their views stepping on my first amendment rights. c-span should apologize because c-span made the news this weekend too for the caller who threatened to kill don lemon and lebron james. please stop trampling over my first amendment rights, c-span.

host: celeste, thank you for the call. we do not condone any sort of violence. that is not the conversation we are trying to have here today. those folks who make the sort of threats should expect to be reported. a street -- appreciate the call. jerry is an washington, d.c. line for republicans. caller: i am not worried at all. the same 17 agencies including barack obama said that no votes were affected. i watched every rally. i watched every debate. i made my decision based on that information. i think that we give russia too much power. i think the last color needs to be corrected. it was don lemon and the other guy, stelter. the two cnn reporters he threatened to kill. not lebron james. i am not worried at all.

the same 17 intelligence stateds and barack obama that votes were not affected. if they want to correct this, they can go to the paper ballot. that is what i want to make clear. information before the lady came on, that color made an excellent point. to getan individual have the knowledge on the candidate you are interested in. no matter what you hear from other people, it is not going to affect your vote. russia did not have this power we are giving them. people are not that stupid. russia is not that strong. host: that is jerry year and washington, d.c. a few comments on twitter.

we have been having the question, are you worried about the security of the 2018 elections? karen wrightson, i am were concerned about republicans continued efforts to disenfranchise voters. hank says this is hyped up to convince voters not to show up to the polls. democrats will think their boats do not count -- there votes will not count. election security is done on a state-by-state basis. the fact that no one is looking to make the entire process secure is a little frightening. it is a must like the people in power do not want to do anything because it works in their favor. what are your thoughts as we are less than 100 days away from the election? jeff is in laverne, california. the line for democrats. about ai am concerned president of the united states of america having a private meeting in russia with pugin --

with vladimir putin, the person he asked to find out where hillary's emails are. he told him to affect the elections that are coming up in november. host: are you talking about the helsinki summit? caller: yes. he colluded with vladimir putin before the election asking for the emails. he went to have a private meeting in helsinki. there is no telling what he colluded with an talked about. you have to remember, he took the power of the presidency and all of the secret information he to aeen giving everyday private meeting with a dictator. people does not concern about elections or about our security of the united states, i do not know what kind of

american you think you are. host: that is just in california. yesterday on face the nation, counselor to the president kellyanne conway discussed the president's concerns about hacking and also the concerns about the mueller investigation. >> this president wants to make very clear that he was not the president in 2016 when evidence of russian interference and meddling in our democracy in 2016 was presented. they wanted the other person to win. this president is not varying it. i was in that briefing. i was there to witness firsthand when the president directed his national security team to go and tell everyone what is happening. saw secretaryyou of homeland security kirstjen nielsen and mike pence up in new

york hosting a cyber security conference where they made clear that cyber security and election security are important priorities. i would note that according to analyses, the number one topic this calendar year by the mainstream media is russia and the election. and yet, when the president says russia hopes, he is -- russia means the investigation and some others on tv wanting to suggest that russia meddling was successful in changing a single vote. host: a few comments from democratic senators since that press conference on thursday at the white house with senior intelligence officials talking about the scope of the threat. richard blumenthal saying time for action and not just talk.

measures --vers 30 stricter cyber security measures. tweet, from mark warner, glad to see the white house finally do something about election security. now if only it was actually backed up by anything the president has said or done. getting your thoughts this morning. randy is in wisconsin. a republican. good morning -- caller: good morning. amy klobuchar talked about russian meddling. she went right into president trump calling it a hoax. that is how they twist the news. said, there is no way that anybody could change a vote.

he knew that the russians were trying to. he still came out and said that. it is what has been going on for 20 years. modeling in -- meddling in elections. look at what barack obama did in trying to get benjamin netanyahu out. that is meddling. the tv does not report on that. host: do you think that president trump is doing enough to make the distinction between the collusion aspect and the ongoing effort that the intelligence community sites by the russian government to interfere with future elections? caller: i am sure yes. why wouldn't he? you should be asking the question to president obama when he was in office. he was show sure that hillary clinton was going to win that he just let it slide. he never protected the country one bit against this kind of

stuff. just cannot give it up that we have president trump as our president. look at the great job he is doing. republicans are going to shine come november. host: helen is a democrat. good morning. caller: good morning, john. thanks for taking my call. about thetle afraid election. i am more worried about voter suppression because of that. i hope people get out there and vote in matter what. -- no matter what. i did see the one program where the guy did threaten to kill somebody. it was on this weekend. she disconnected him pretty

quickly. it was a republican saying something. he wanted to go after and kill this person. i heard of that one. because i do not want this to affect people and knock it out there and vote. it is important that we all get out there and get our voices heard. i did not know that trump needed a translator. -- all of these different words have different meanings. we have to get a new dictionary. host: on the turnout looking at the election of 2018 and what is going to happen in november, do you think people are giving up on their trust in the election system? that they are not going to come and vote after all of these stories and all of this concern about what may or may not be happening? caller: i am afraid.

i do not know how many people must've been dropped on their heads when they were babies. there are so many different crazy things going on. it is so hard to believe and realize. educated but i'm educated to know what is right and what is wrong. it hurts me that what is going on in our country has become so horrible and dangerous that other countries are getting ofolved and accusing us trying to assassinate their leader. things are getting out of hand. host: that is helen in michigan. the march towards the election in 2018 continues. primaries are going to be held in kansas, missouri, michigan, and washington. here is the story from usa today saying those primaries will

measure gop vulnerability and democratic tensions. there it is a special election happening in ohio. a special house election taking place. we will be talking about all of those races tomorrow on the washington journal in our 9:00 hour. we will run through what is happening on primary day. tom is in wharton, virginia. caller: good morning. concerned about the 2018 election. i think we have a history of ignoring potential issues. 2016, ite primaries of was often referred to as the stanford study that was not technically a peer-reviewed study. foundo researchers mathematical inconsistencies in the votes during the democratic

primaries in those states that utilized machines that did not have a paper trail. it was -- you can google it. the stanford study. fact check has a thing on it. comment on why this was not a true statement was because the newspapers incorrectly referred to it as a study, which means it was peer-reviewed. the investigative mathematicians maintain a website for some period of time allowing other people to review their findings. the voting records where public. everyone was agreeing with them that there was clear evidence in those states where there was no paper trail during the democratic primaries, the voting was being influenced.

there was an algorithmic consistency. host: how widespread you think voter fraud is at this time in our elections? caller: i think -- i do not know. it is definitely there in the primaries. there was a lawsuit against the democratic party by those who supporting, the independent who was running. it was thrown out because it was determined that the individual party did not need to, the judge throughout the lawsuit. i think his reasoning was that the individual party did not have to have a secure election. they could select their candidates either way. during thisic party

issue came to push it under the rug. they kind of -- host: got your point, tom. mentioning paper trails. the bill to audit elections came up with the white house press briefing on thursday. homeland security secretary kierstin nielsen talked about efforts that her department is working on to ensure that trust can be there when it comes to the day after election day 2018. [video clip] >> with respect to the infrastructure piece, we have seen a capability on the part of the russians. we are working closely with officials to make sure we are prepared. part of that is encouraging states to have auditability. whatever happens, we want to assure americans today after that their boat was counted -- that there vote was counted

correctly. we want to make sure we have the auditability. host: if you want to watch this press conference with the various national security officials from thursday, you can do that on our website, c-span.org. we are having this conversation in our first segment asking how worried you are about the security of the election of 2018. you been an election official and want to talk about your (202) 748-8003. meanwhile, james. boston, massachusetts. caller: good morning. let me make this real quick. i am not worried about anything's with the russians. house thatkk white scares me more than russia. it is the republicans. that scares me. they do not want nothing black or brown fighting or voting.

the news people like you guys at c-span who gives us the great news unlike the fake news at fox scares me. i appreciate you guys doing what you do. the kkk white house scares me more than anything else. host: he is in chicago. a democrat. good morning. caller: good morning. just give me a minute here. i am talking directly to republicans. why preach to the choir? fellow citizens, republicans. when we talk about russian hacking and interference, we're not talking about them going in and changing your vote. we are not talking about hacking machines. we're talking about hacking minds. as a guy who has done pr and advertising for 30 years, if you do not think we can influence

you through pr and advertising, you are naive. and negativenda advertising. it only works on people lacking critical thinking skills. go to the election result. 92,000 votes in three states. trump, 3 million fellow citizens. you have no mandate. you have nothing. you have a technical win. you lost the popular vote. you think that you reflect the will of the american people? that is preposterous. host: keep in chicago this morning. -- keith in chicago this morning. downe republicans voting last wednesday a bid to direct the next to $250 million towards

election security in advance of the 2018 midterms despite heightened warnings from a low -- from intelligence officials there might be interference. the vote fell short. in needed votes to include the amendment proposed by patrick leahy of vermont. more from that story from the washington post discussing the reasons why republicans did not support the measure. members of the gop have argued that the extra funds are not necessary as congress has only recently approved $380 million to improve election security. although there is some bipartisan consensus that 380 million is not enough, several republicans have said they should be an assessment for how the states are using those funds. that story from the washington post.

carl, berkeley springs, west virginia. a republican. are you concerned about the security of your vote? caller: good morning. fact that hillary colluded with the russians. that is over with. what i am concerned about is the election in the future. win bye democrats 200,000 votes and we find out that 250,000 illegals voted in the election. all heck is going to break loose. that worries me more than the russian thing. host: you think hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants are voting in our election? caller: i lived in college park for 27 years. i heard on the news the other day they are letting them float in college park -- letting them vote in college park.

that is going to lead up to them voting and the federal election too. that is what worries me. until we get voter id in effect, there is going to be a time when the illegals are going to vote someone in and then we are going to find out about it. all heck is going to break loose. that is exactly what worries me. host: lawrence is in st. paul, minnesota. an independent. caller: good morning. i would like to preface my statement -- when i hear conversations about what did happen in the last , it seemsoing forward to me that some people feel as though it was president trump who was not president. tois his responsibility

prevent whatever took place. we seem to forget that as president of united states, the president has the responsibility to protect the nation from foreign and domestic threats. i agree we need to do things going forward. presidency,he last something was not done to protect either our media, our social media, or election tampering in president obama's administration. i wish he would stop -- he was not president. that is not -- i hope congress going forward does things to protect the upcoming election. it was not his responsibility in the previous election. just wanted to get that off my chest. i will talk to you in the

future. host: duane in south dakota. line for democrats. caller: good morning. i do not trust our election anymore because the republicans control everything. especially in my state. it is basically a republican state. these people are calling and saying this is all barack obama's fault. i remember that barack obama mentioned to the majority leader mitch wanting to have a get together and let everybody know about it but mitch did not want to do it. people are not remembering that fact. that is my comment. host: another duane in ohio. a republican. caller: yes, i am concerned about some of the states are allowing noncitizens to vote. my understanding in california, they are letting people vote on

nonpartisan issues. this could escalate very quickly into a partisan issues where you have to declare your status, republican, democrat, independent. that really bothers me. have this real id for an election. this is incredible that you bring in a gas bill and say, i have lived here and yet, everyone else has to show proof of citizenship. thank you. minutes left in this segment of the washington journal. we are asking whether you are worried about the security of the 2018 elections. (202)e a special line, 748-8003 for those who work in polling locations.

we are going to be joined by lieutenant colonel ralph peters and i former -- one of the issues we are going to be talking about is north korea and ongoing efforts to denuclearize the korean peninsula. the story today and the west and times, mike pompeo says he has warned not to violate sanctions on north korea saying the trump administration has no intention of letting them until pyongyang abandons their nuclear weapons. atre had been discussions the association of southeast asia nations. there are reports of a potential second trump and kim summit later this year. we will have that conversation at 9:00. the united states plans to impose economic sanctions on

iran on monday after the withdraw from the 2015 nuclear accord. president trump withdrew the united states from a multinational deal that eased economic sanctions in return for iran giving up the means for making nuclear weapons. president trump said he would be willing to improve relations with leaders after the senior iranian general said his forces stood ready to confront united states. that from the usa today. . brandon is waiting on the line from that maligned for independent -- on the line for independents. caller: i have never really been worried. we have to realize our vote never really mattered. with the winner takes all and the electoral college, there is very little chance that our boat can have -- that are vote can

have an impact. especially if you live in a state like tennessee. it is not a swing state at all. you do not have much sway. russia isied about kind of foolish especially --ause russia is not our main threat. host: what is our main threat? caller: our main threat is our own government. stolen onhave been our own false system that we do not have her on say in. host: you still go out and vote? caller: i still go out and vote and show my support for the libertarian party. other than that, we're never going to win that. a third party has never won. system andreform our abolish the winner takes all. host: william in suffield,

connecticut. caller: good morning. i am very concerned about the upcoming election. based on thes performance of our president in the helsinki summit where he basically said that president vladimir putin had such great unbiased opinions about russian meddling in our elections. he was saying that vladimir putin had given his word. like we can take his word that itself in not involve meddling. ministration -- now the trump administration has turned a 180. stating that there was meddling. about not heard anything

what we are going to do about it. my suggestion is, that we go to a full paper ballot throughout the united about what we are going to do about it. is some cyber stuff going on, it would not affect a paper ballot. burdensome in is terms of getting the results back and it takes a lot more time, but i would rather take a lot more time and get it right then possibly have russia again meddle in our election. 2016, it worked for the republicans. the russians do not care. republicans or democrats. as long as they cause chaos in our country. host: did youth a lot a paper ballot in succulent, connecticut? caller: yes we do. host: have you ever been not

confident about your vote in the past? caller: no. i cannot say i have. not until all of this came out with the russians. was, this happened in 2016. i am sure the incoming president -- i did not vote for him. he is american like i am american. that he would not allow that to happen again. on,r what has been going you can talk about all of the other world leaders calling them names and so forth. he has this relationship with vladimir putin that makes me nervous. host: here is more from the press conference on thursday. dan coats talking about the threat to the 2018 election and comparing it to what they

believe happened in the 2016 election. [video clip] seenlative to what we have for the midterm elections, it is not the kind of robust campaign that we assess in 2016 elections. three decades, we know that we rush as tried -- we know that russia has tried to sew discord in america. they stepped up their game big-time in 2016. we have not seen that kind of effort from them so far. publicly, we are only one keyboard click away from finding out something we have not seen up to this point. we have not seen that right now. d.c. it directed to any particular party? -- do you see it directed to any particular party? is there a particular party that is benefiting? >> the russians are looking for every opportunity regardless of

party. regardless of whether or not it applies to the election to continue their pervasive efforts to undermine our fundamental values. host: about 15 minutes left in the segment of the washington journal. we want to know how worried are you about the security of the election of 2018? a special line for those who have worked at polling stations, .202) 748-8003 i have worked for many years at fairfax county as an election official. as an assistant chief and 80. they would move me around to different places and districts where they had to have somebody fill in. i got to see a lot of the different things going on. the big concern i have is that several years ago in the state

of virginia, they were using a touchscreen system. becauseally took it off a school board race in fairfax county had shown that the changed tos being the detraction of the person who was the current school board head. she lost the race. when they did a forensic analysis, it was subtracting votes and giving it to the opponent. the article was in wired magazine. host: for folks who do not know, was it a -- a completely electronic machine? caller: this was completely electronic. the state of virginia made it illegal to use that touchscreen voting machine anymore after that was found out. it was easily manipulated. the other thing i wanted to point out is that both in the

state of virginia, which i'm familiar with the rules and regulations on recounts, they have made it illegal to hand recount a vote. the paper ballots that everyone thinks is protecting them, that is not allowed to be counted in a recount. instead, the vendor whose services the electronic voting machines has to program the machine in order to make it check for that particular race that is being contested. there is no checking or verification. host: what happens with the paper ballots? when are they used? caller: they are only fed back through the machine. which is program if there is a recount. it is counted exactly the same way as it was during the regular election. it is illegal in virginia to hand count the votes.

another state that passed that is vermont that does not allow you to recount the votes by hand. a couple of the people who voted for that particular law recently both lost their election by one or two votes and complained when they could not hand recounted because of the law that they helped repass. host: what is the argument for not allowing the hand recount? caller: there is no argument. it is trying to hide transparency from the public. host: are you going to work at the polls in 2018? caller: i will, yes. i have worked since the early 2000. is, they haveg something called digital ballot images. that is a photocopy of every ballot that is made that is put through a paper scanner. that data isunty, stick andon a memory

turned into the court system after the end of every election. i had argued in front of the electoral board that that should be a public record like it is in colorado and put up on the internet so people can see the electoral ballot images and count them for themselves. they said, we cannot do that. that is a problem. that also is, they said it was the legal. -- they said it was illegal. the final thing is that the golden way of running a voting system is -- i think one of your previous colors said is -- reduce colors set is a paper ballot that is witnessed by the citizens. then that is put up on the internet and people can counted

up and they can go to the local precinct and make sure it was counted correctly. chain of custody is also very important. that things do not get shipped off. fairfax county is good with chain of custody and their procedures. it is the electronic machines that are the weakness in the system. host: thank you for talking about your experience. lisa is next in idaho. good morning. caller: thank you, c-span. i am not too worried about the russians interfering. i think they are going to do it anyway we look at it. where i live, we use paper ballots. i am glad we do because i do not trust computers. i was confused about the republicans voting down the bill to spend the money to increase our security. i worry mostly about people in

the united states who are not citizens who vote. you have to prove your identity with your id card or drivers license. then you can vote. people do not have a way to get this identity. they have 100 days to do it before they vote. that is what i think. host: that is lisa in idaho. speaking of the 2018 elections, a few more stories. storyday with their lead on the fired up liberal giving in the election. pastlue last week surged the $1 billion mark. the group rejects the donation -- the group predicts donations will top $1.5 billion. double what they processed back

in 2016. groups.dates and one story from usa today about the members of congress will not be coming back after election 2018. those who are retiring and where they have been traveling. at least 17 retiring members of congress have gone on overseas trips after announcing they were not going to seek reelection. all were on the taxpayer dime. $190,000.st of they raise questions about how much benefit constituents get from the members who rent -- who announced their retirement. it is in usa today. gino in florida is a republican.

caller: what i think is that we should not be worried about the russians because if they really rigreagan the elect -- did the election, why would they want trump to win? i would want hillary to win and her as aa -- use puppet. if we have anything to worry , it is the democrats because of the keep on blaming everything -- instead of taking the blame for everything, they are going to lose all of their seats. we are never going to have a democratic president again. host: diane is in chelsea, michigan. caller: thank you for the opportunity. i would just like to say that i think the media coverage is

partly to blame for the not using paper ballots anymore because they are still anxious to get it on the tv as it comes in almost in real time. i think when we waited to hear from the paper ballots, it gave even the west coast a chance to do it without feeling like it did not matter anymore. we are just too anxious to get information. we are giving up accuracy and integrity. when i vote, i will not vote in principle with id. i vote and i sign the back of it. they later verify that i am a registered voter because i feel it is voter suppression. i do not participate in that. i would like someone to tell me why it is that president trump got to go in a secret meeting

with vladimir putin. why did the republicans in power allow him to do that? i cannot imagine anyone going into any kind of a meeting especially who is not our friend and going to a secret meeting and negotiate. i just do not understand why he would not want his advisers there. why the republicans do not insist that he at least had a witness. it makes me feel the republicans were in on the decision. that thery badly c-span folks were threatened. that is very sad. that was a woman who said she would like to shoot every illegal alien she called them coming through.

she would like to shoot them. i called and said, why didn't the commentator make a remark about that? someone else called later calling me a liberal. decency -- that is a point of decency. that is what we are regressing to. it is very sad. host: thanks for the call. we do not condone any threats of violence here on the washington journal. we cannot have this discussion with those kind of comments. we are trying to keep an open for. we are trying to keep those comments out. a few more comments on twitter on this issue of fear about the security of election 2018. jeff writes, the threat has always been there. i am more concerned about the legitimacy of elections. it is the one who counts the votes.

says, it willho be interesting to say the lawsuits demanding a recount for hacking. that will open up a run can of worms. rotten can of- a worms. jeanette is on the line. a democrat from washington, d.c. caller: i just wanted to say that i did work at a polling station in 2008. i feel that the system is setup to work. it is all of the things that can happen on the outside that corrupts it. if you think about when george bush won the presidency, it was not about more votes are less votes. it was about people being confused about all that. it is just what everybody can do to manipulate things. host: what are some examples of

those things that people can do to manipulate things? what are you worried about happening this time? caller: i am worried about what the russians did. i think it was on c-span that i watched a committee hearing where they talked about how people used facebook. it was called psychometrics. how they can figure out who you are by your computer use. they can send you information. information that appeals to that kind of personality type. what your fears are. people can be motivated by their fears. thinking that the gentleman who called from west virginia who was not worried about the russians but about illegal thinking voting where td get together and all vote. that is sort of the same thing.

that is kind of what did happen. oute the russians figured how to manipulate all the stuff before we realized these things could happen. those are the things i am thinking. it is sort of a new world with all of the technology. it is going to impact all of the things that we do on some level in our lives. this was my first time. thank you. host: would you ever work at a polling station again in the future? caller: absolutely. i felt a lot of pride for it. it is kind of like doing jury duty. i feel like as a citizen, you should participate in these things and have an understanding of how the system works. when things do happen, you can be a voice for that. host: that is jeanette here in weston bc

-- in washington, d.c. you areittee hearing wednesdayto from last , you can watch it in its entirety at c-span.org. keith in michigan. an independent. doubt that theno polling places and databases -- canhould do everything we to keep this from happening. i am disappointed and republicans. they seem to have no interested in this -- no interest in this. tore may come a time scramble up all the databases and that would be to their that it. as far as the statement that no votes were changed, the way the

statement was made was that no votes were changed after they were cast. as far as a lot of votes being changed before they were cast, i have no doubt. i have friends and coworkers who said they would have liked to vote for hillary, but they cannot trust her. the reason is because of the concerted effort between president -- between donald trump and the election team. all of the stuff they were getting over their phones that was so derogatory on hillary clinton. a lot of votes were changed before they were cast. host: do you think that is happening again right now? caller: to a degree. they are trying to shut it down. you have to be really careful about freedom of speech because there are a lot of americans who are entitled to their opinion. there is a lot of outside interference.

they have proved it over and over again during the last election. they were using americans. they were pumping money into the nra. creating a mind session in america about honesty and integrity of the candidates, and it just wasn't true. i firmly believe that donald trump would not be our president if it were not for the russians. i have no doubt that they swung the balance and made the difference. our last color in this first segment of washington mikeal today but up next, joins us about his new book about how the democratic party can reach it -- regain majorities in congress and take back the white house. we discuss guns and the controversy of the publication -- due to make them.

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democrat in the age of trump." i want to talk about how democrats got here. you point out this statistic. in the decade since 2008 week when the future looks promising, seats, 63st senate u.s. house seats, 38 legislative chambers, 90 eight legislative seats. we also lost the present -- -- host: what were democrats doing wrong between 2008 and today? the demographics were moving in favor, the financial collapse had made americans convinced that republican trickle-down policies were not working. things seemed like they were going in our direction and they

would have continued to have done that had we really the promises and really changed the country in a transformative kind of way. if we have restructured the financial system rather than just rehabilitated it. if we had really brought wages working-class folks. if we have really done immigration reform, something about climate change, i think those would be both broadly popular and would have fired up our base. in aad, we got bogged down very long, torturous health care debate. we passed a good bill but it was a discouraging process. in the meantime, we didn't do any of the other things. then the sort of final thing that broke the camel's back is

we did not prosecute wall street speculators who had ripped off the economy, committed fraud, against consumers, and that got people very cynical. change moment big and why do you think it is time for democrats to have one now? book, in my previous talked about how in american history, there have been a series of the change moments were problems had built up over time and progressives swept into does a lot ofge things in a few years. the new deal was an example. the 64, 65, 66, where lbj was able to get a lot of things past , a progressive area of teddy

those were times where big changes were happening. we had an opportunity in 2009 but we put. because we put, our base got cynical and did not turn out and swing voters also felt like well, they are not doing anything for me. i think that is how we broke the coalition in the first place. why is it time to have a moment now? guest: what is in place now is trump, mcconnell, and the house republicans. periodhe most right wing in american history and they have gone so far to the extreme. we have an opportunity to lay out a bold agenda really focused on working-class folks, all kinds. my book about how there is a lot more that unites

people, a lot more that unites the democratic race and swing voters, then there is that divides them. host: "how to democrat in the age of trump." joinu want to join the -- the conversation, the phones are split as usual -- we're talking with veteran democratic consultant mike lux. i want to show view -- viewers the about the author page. the first sentence of the first three paragraphs. is a cofounder of democracy partners, innovative full-service national consulting firm. mike served as senior staffer and advisor on six different presidential campaigns. mike currently serves on the boards of several organizations and is also cofounder of the center for american progress. election americans trust you as a voice for change? guest: i have been on the inside

and outside of democratic politics for a long time. i was in the clinton white house as the liaison to the progressive community. i spent a lot of my years outsideto build organizations and grassroots organizations, and i believe one of the problems the party has had his we do not pay enough attention to people on the that would try to preach down to people rather than listening and engaging. i think that is critical right now. listen to and engage some callers. phone lines split by party as usual. we will start on the line for democrats. silver spring, maryland. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i want to give a quick suggestion on how the democrats

campaign. you look at what republican said, you should have a quick line like we need to take our country back from russia, number one. youer two, on the tax cuts, use task us the way republicans used obamacare before. , it didt the promises not pay for itself. we borrowed more than we borrowed in two years. obamacare,ne is on they promised for eight years to replace it. --n i finally replaced it, you need to highlight those points. then make the promise that the best way forward for health just

for health care is to repair it and not replace it. host: thank you for the call to messaging and strategy. guest: i think he has got good points. i think both the tax and health care fights were very much things democrats ought to be focused on now. right now, people trust democrats far more on health care and taxes because they see what the -- what they're doing, trickle-down economics. they want to give things all to the rich people in the big corporations. that is a message we could definitely use. what about the impeachment message? the house will initiate impeachment proceedings against the president? guest: i have never been a big fan of process arguments.

we need to focus on issues that matter to folks. a lot of democrats are in favor of impeachment and i do not have a problem at all saying that we should aggressively investigate the president because i think he is very corrupt. i think as time goes on over the weekend, he basically tweeted out something that proves his corruption and over time, we will investigate and do something about it. and i think democrats should talk about that. but i think on the campaign trail, obsessing about donald is not what we ought to be doing. he often feeling out our own vision on taxes and other important issues. host: what is the vision of health care that we sell? guest: that people ought to have the right to either buy into or

get medicare if they want medicare. i think ultimately the country would be better off with medicare for all. where need a transition we move to a system where people like what they have gone already, they can keep it, but if they don't, they could buy into medicare. that was something suggested 10 years ago during the health care fight and did not happen. looking at how to lower costs on health care is critical. medicare for all or some version of that would do that. host: alan is a republican from knoxville, tennessee. caller: i don't see how the working-class will come back to the democrats.

most messaging i sent television is about russian insanity. meanwhile, you have got donald trump the much every day talking the 4.1% gdp is coming in. good fort not looking you guys. thanks. i think trump has been able to take advantage of the growing economy that obama built for him. itersonally do not think will last very long because his policies are so focused toward the superrich that it is drying up money for everyone else. if you look at the structure of the economy for working people, their wages are not going up. a lot of jobs that people have to work, two or three jobs to keep their family together or make a living.

i do not think working people are very excited about trump. we have seen in districts like , theylvania, the district heavily republican district for danny o'connor has a very good chance of winning, we are seeing that working people are rebelling against the economy and our folk on the superrich. what habits of democrats win in ohio tomorrow? guest: another earthquake and we have had a bunch already this year. democrats have done very well in special elections. to win in alabama, to take back the seats we took in the virginia house as well as when the governor's race in a landslide when it was supposed to be close in the district, in part a much every election plus one in the house, we have done far better than the numbers in the previous election.

are winning a lot of state legislative races as well in various districts in rural america -- rural america. host: new york, paul, independent, good morning. caller: i noticed mike did not answer the last question that anyway, i'm from upstate new york and back in the 1990's, bill clinton set the trend for accepting corporate money and since those days, we had nafta, all of these ills that kind of for working people, i have to tell you, in upstate new york, we do not trust democrats anymore. look at nancy pelosi. , they collect money from the same people the republican party do, wall street. if you are a working person, you can see right through that. we do not really here economic

solutions when we hear a democrat running for office here it is more of, corporate, middle-of-the-road, innuendo. that is my comment. i think you are right in one way. and i talk in my book about this, how democrats have taken too much corporate money, and some democrats at least have gotten too close to wall street, too close to some of the biggest .ompanies and money i think we need to change that. i argue in my book that is democrats, we need to be back in the party of working people and economic solutions that will help working people. i think we're moving in the right direction with that. i think the reaction to trump and his favoring the rich over everyone else will help us in

this election. host: are nancy and -- nancy pelosi and chuck schumer helping in that? two and extent. democrats got used to a certain way raising money and it actually hurt us. because the more we raised money from big corporations, the more from billionaires, the more we lose touch with working people. i prefer elizabeth warren, where we raised a lot of the money onlinerking-class folks and they are more in touch with those kinds. if you look at the primaries, candidates who emphasize those kinds of close ties of working-class folks, those are winning. if democrats win the house

and 2018, would you prefer someone else other than nancy pelosi to be the speaker? guest: everything in politics as compared to what? it all depends on who runs against her. ideally, there would be a great young progressive who will be but, it is -- if it is nancy pelosi versus hoyer, who is actually hope -- older and more tied to corporate america, then of course i do not prefer that. host: david is a democrat from maryland, good morning. know, i think the democrats have to concede the fact that and republicans -- they don't mind lying or changing the rules.

think the messaging for democrats needs to be more focused on what is wrong with the republican party. in other words, what you get when you vote republican. i think it off a lot of people voted against their own self interest when they vote republican. i think we've done a really poor job of messaging what the republican party really stands for. in the states they control, there are clear examples to .2, women's rights issues on health care issues, the refusal to take medicaid money. over and over, the breaking up of unions, republicans have shown what they really stand for. out.ges is not point that i think people need to understand what they get when they vote republican. i disagree with you here a little bit at least.

gof course think we should after republicans on the things they're doing wrong and they are doing so many different things wrong that it is easy to do. tolso think democrats need tell people what they believe in, who they will fight or, which side they are on, what the values are. i think that is what we have been doing a poor job doing campaigns. 2016,assic example in hillary clinton spent the vast majority of her money attacking donald trump. people already knew that trump was, wasn't such a great guy. they just wanted someone -- something different and something new. i think if she said more about what she believed in and who she for,- who she would fight especially on economic issues, i think it would have been a far better thing to do.

host:host: is abolish isa's a gd campaign message for democrats this year? guest: i think it is but in general, as long as you explain again, weproposal is, are reacting to the wrong thing at -- i think it is important, isis has done terrible things, so i'd do not have a problem but worknk the only way to will be how we would manage the situation, to show we would do it in a compassionate but effective way. massachusetts next, richard, independent, go ahead. i listen to republicans and democrats and it is the same old thing over and over about, you care what the working-class or this and that and you do

nothing. i will tell you, i call my congresspeople. kennedy, i am 74 years old. warne and brown, i keep calling for the last 20 years i have been calling. i have got nothing done. they send me letters. i have three in my kitchen table right now from senator warren, 2014, 2015, 2016, from her washington office be at i get nothing from you people. republicans and democrats. all you do is talk -- host: what are you asking elizabeth warren for? caller: i was a firefighter for 34 years. i worked a second job for 34 years to build up social security. when i went to collect it, they took half of it away from me. it started in 1985 with reagan. everybody went on board with

him. warren sent me three letters, we have to do something about it, and that was in 2014. i earned that social security. working. i have to go to work today at 10:00. until 6:00 at night. i am 74 years old and i walked to work three miles up the road. he say but -- you care what the working man, but you don't and i really angry. talk.d she letting me thanks for the call. have a good day at work on this monday. i will let mike lux respond. guest: i share your frustration. i think government has not gotten much, especially federal government, not much done for working folks.

book that democrats need to be far clearer on what we would do, far clear on getting things done. put in out that republicans have been in control of government, of congress, since 2011. it is hard for elizabeth warren to get a lot done when mitch mcconnell is the head of the senate and donald trump is the president. i think she is working hard but you can only get so much done. what we have to look at is, if democrats regain control within the presidency, and then start delivering, then i think they folksave the support of

like yourself. they need to keep fighting folks like yourself. they need to keep fighting for working people on these issues. host: folks like yourself. they need to keep fighting for working people on these issues. host: about five minutes left with mike lux. we will keep taking your calls. republican call, go ahead. caller: you are right about the medicare issues and all that are known as poorer than i am in this country i swear, but i do not qualify for anything. i am white. hillary clinton, when she cheated in the primaries, that ruined it for her in this area. we cannot vote for a cheater. if you vote for a cheater, you endorse cheating and you are a cheater, guilty of that cheating. , ahead of time during the primaries, he would have said, i can beat them without cheating. that is why we love donald trump. love him. love him to death. we would never endorse a cheater. host: mike lux. go ahead. guest: i think trump is the ultimate cheater.

trump has taken money from the russian mob for at least a decade. trump cheated his employees, cheated his subcontractors when and his businessman, cabinet and his officials that he has appointed have been one of the most corrupt administrations ever. i also think that democrats need to do a better job focusing on these issues rather than playing your and politics, to point. i think if we focus on an agenda that would help, working folks on the issues that matter to them, then i think we have a much better chance. host: a democrat in idaho falls, idaho. good morning. caller: i have spent five or 10 year trying to get in. thank you. is i think a lot of

politicians and just normal have addiction. they just need to go to rehab -- rehab. lying, cheating, but if you get someone in power, once anything is wrong, you're trapped. i figure either the democrats, what they need to do, they have got to stand up for the truth. if anyone will not stand up for telling the truth, they do not need to be a democrat. money, if ofking got to be honest with people. if you cannot be, they need to andt looking in the mirror see where they are at in life. you will always have people who

want to have control and power over weak people. it has been that way for many decades. host: got your point. let's give mike lux a chance to respond. guest:host: got your point. let's give mike lux a chance to respond. guest: i agree we need to be honest with people. one thing i talk about is democrats needhost: got your po. let's give mike lux a chance to respond. guest: i agree we need to be honest with people. one thing i talk about is democrats need to be honest with voters about why they are for what they are for. i think we need to go to places like idaho and talk to folks about some of the big issues and be honest with people. even if we think it will not be in idaho to talkwe need a messd of in idaho to talk about having basic gun safety or talk about how trump is stirring up

racism in the country. that we do not back away from the matter where we are in the country. john in beaverton, oregon. good morning. caller: i agree with what you are saying about listening, but i was wondering about reaching out to safe groups and really listen to values. then let the issues flow from there. i work with an interfaith group, and we went to the ice in downtown portland. quiet, respectful and but we told people, there was a sickness. there was a solidarity about our move, our movement. so to listen to people's values and not simply their issues. guest: i very much agree with you. we talk in the book about the need to reach out to rural voters, faith-based voters and

older voters, and talk about our values. about who we will fight for, what we believe in, what our values are, and having that as core to our message, rather than a lot of details, is really important. host: the book is "how to democrat in the age of trump," and the author is mike lux. up next, stephen gutowski will join us to discuss 3-d printed guns and the controversy about instructions used to make them. later, ralph peters will be here to talk about the trump administration. we will be back. ♪

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making headlines last week, we will delve into the history and future. we have a staff writer -- staff writer with the washington free how long? guest: it or nine years. host: explain what a 3-d printer gun is. guest: essentially just a mostly fromfactured 3-d printer material. the first one that made a lot of headlines, by cody wilson, his company distributed it in 2013. host: what do you need to make a 3-d printed gun? guest: it depends on what you're trying to do. there are different parts you can manufacture with it. you can make a lot of things with a 3-d printer but to make

something that can withstand a cartridge going off, you really fairly expensive equipment. several thousand dollars worth of equipment, high-end 3-d printers. not the kind of thing you can buy for $150 online. you really need something substantial. host: how far along as the technology? guest: really, the gun he created, the liberator in 2013, it is a proof of concept, single shot firearm and it does not last long. you can only shoot a few shots through that. i'm not aware of any gun that has come along at that level of three printed material in it. it still has metal but most newer designs include a lot more but it ishe barrels

always developing, certainly people around the world and the country are making their own designs as well. it is something that is continuing. host: when you are printing something, what are you printing? how much is printed from the practice -- plastics from the computer? it depends on the design of the gun and what you're trying to achieve. the liberator is mostly 3-d printed parts. is a metal firing pin that actually sets off the primary and the cartridge from that is not 3-d printed. it also includes a metal plate .nd original prototype and other designs, you're simply printing one part of dozens. on the ar 15, it is a popular thing to do.

part, right?ulated there is really only one part in the united states that tends to be regulated where if you were to buy one, you have to get a background check to do it on air so people would print it part -- print that part. are we from 3-d printed guns being just as reliable and accurate, just as powerful, as traditional firearms? guest: it sort of depends on how much of the gun you want printed. there is not a design that exists yet for that, but certainly, there are obvious limitations with 3-d printed material because it is plastic. by their nature need to

withstand a lot of force and heat, and- and plastics tend not to withstand that force and heat at least over a long time. so they tend to be very crude designs that are meant to be a proof of concept more than anything else. if you have questions about three printed guns, now would be a good time to call. with us until about 9:00 this morning, if you support 3-d guns in the current debate -- if you oppose them -- we split up our lines. questions onour either line. i want to show viewers some criticism of 3-d guns from the floor senate. last week, richard blumenthal of connecticut talking about his concerns about technology.

>> we are doing this together to prevent a new wave of lethal gun violence in the community resulting from these plastic, undetectable and untraceable weapons. assault rifles, pistols, shotguns, all of them are homemade. they are ghost guns. they are the new frontier and the new face of gun violence in the country. >> take on a few of the concerns , specifically undetectable and untraceable ghost guns. guest: there is a lot to unpack obviously. first off, undetectable is thrown around a lot in coverage of 3-d guns. really refers to a gun that could pass through a metal detector without setting it off.

people arepeople are concerned n make guns and plastic completely, that would be something that we could keep from getting onto an airplane or something of that nature, and as i would do to earlier, at this point, there is no design that exists that includes metal parts. presumably, a metal detector would be able to find a gun like presumably, a metal detector would be able to find a gun like this, even if the liberator from cody wilson is likely not undetectable we have a law that currents this. not allowed to make or possess a gun in the united states that is not detectable. of undetectable firearms act 1988. nra: that is the point the cited last week when the congress he bubbled up. guest: that is what they said. so, even if you were able to make a completely plastic gun

with no metal parts that could pass through a metal detector, it would be illegal under federal law. then you get into the idea of another common term we hear a about about and what it referso is firearms that are homemade or manufactured at home, not required to have serial numbers. someone in the united states to manufacture their own firearms for their own personal use, you cannot sell them or give them boy without obtaining a license first, manufacturers license. but you can make your own firearms. that has been illegal since the founding of the country. it is something that there has long been different technologies for doing this. 3-d printing is a new way of accomplishing that.

host: if you calls from viewers. in alabama on the line for those who support 3-d printed guns, go ahead. i am so glad that c-span has someone on this morning that knows what they're talking about about plastic guns. this is about the most ridiculous. aat someone wants to hand me plastic gun made 3-d printed, i would not fire it, unless you could figure out a way to put a tempered steel in it. that would make more sense. gun, there a plastic ain't no way. will happen is someone will make one of those guns and it will blow up on them. it will be more harm on the prisoner makes the gun. this is ridiculous. guest: i think that is a fair assessment, that these guns can

explode. for a make a chamber when youut of plastic, go to fire a live round, it could explode. they have to test whose designs. if you don't to the printer properly, which takes a lot of skill and when you go to fire a live round, it could explode. knowledge, it could absolutely explode. host: far rockaway, new york. opposed. caller: thanks for taking my call. is almostl like, this making a commercial for people that have a problem wasting money, endangering themselves. horrificun idea is so with all the guns out there with people being enticed and pushed people.ng harm to other

that is all i got to say. host: anything you want to cap on that? certainly, like any other form of technology, it can be abused by bad actors. at that aware of a kc has involved a 3-d printed gun, any sort of crime, it is not something i have seen happen yet. host: rockville, maryland, opposed. go ahead. caller: i oppose a 3-d gun because we have to many guns now on the street. that we can't get check through the black market and things of that nature. i agree with a couple of colors before that most times these things kind of exploding your have a conceptou a safetying a gun, issue with the firearm itself, i

think it is ridiculous to have something like that even for the public. if it were very cheap, a lot of folks out would be making the guns. guest: it is certainly not something for everyone. i would say. 3-d printing even beyond guns is really something for enthusiasts. it is not necessarily for everyone. it is another reason why i doubt you'll see these very soon in the hands of criminals. but i understand the concern. host: if you support 3-d guns -- if you oppose them -- your comments, your questions. the time to ask if you do have questions about the technology, stephen gutowski, who is cody wilson? a gun rights activists, essentially.

based out of austin, texas. the pioneer of 3-d printed guns. he developed the liberator, the made's first sort of gun mostly from 3-d printed parts. it as a political act, trying to show the intersection of new technology and gun rights is very that he thinks meaningful and probably a little provocative as well. yesterday,x news talking about defense distributed and 3-d gun technology, here is what he had to say. >> i think you are protecting, hey i'm just making information available and i am not responsible for what people do once they get the information but the fact is, cody, there are real world consequences here. what if somebody takes your

information, makes a gun, and then goes out and kills someone, potentially, got for bid, kills a member of your family? do you bear any responsibility? would you feel any remorse? >> i credit your question as good faith, but i believe in the second amendment to the point of, that it should be expected that there will be social costs protecting like this protectin.

why is that right on the bill of rights? why is it protected? we know there are downsides and consequences to protecting like. why is that right on the bill of rights? why is it protected? we know there are downsides and consequences to allowing free people to own a means of self-defense. of course we should expect and have a mature out protecting li. why is that right on the bill of rights? why is it protected? we know there are downsides and consequences to allowing free people to own a means of self-defense. of course we should expect and have a mature out it -- attitude that things can happen. >> the government has made decisions for the best a society that certain people should be >> the government has made decisions for the best a society that certain people should be prevented from having guns and it should be easier to trace and easier to detect. you are going around all of that, cody.

>> i respectfully disagree. the government has regulated commercial manufacture arms and transfer interstate commerce, but the government has never regulated the protection of firearms you are allowed to own. americans can to this day right now make a gun and there is no requirement to meet -- put a serial number on it. i am sorry a bunch of politicians woke up to the reality of it last week but this is the way it has always been. host: you have met cody wilson and interviewed him, stephen gutowski. what is his and goal here. is he making money off of the 3-d gun blueprints that became the center of the controversy? >> i respectfully disagree. the government has regulated commercial manufacture arms and transfer interstate commerce, but the government has never regulated the protection of next.ms you pennsylvania on the opposed line. i am against three printed i am against three printed guns, but i do not think they could do much about it. they will be printed anyway to matter what it -- no matter what. our society is so violent, violence is ingrained in our take all of you

take all of that, all the violence, you have watched television, and it encourages violence and encourages, we are encouraged more or less to take quick action and not to think about anything and not think about consequences. about how things will get resolved, how the country will get back on track, people are so frustratedencourages, we are end more or less to take quick action and not to think about anything and not think about consequences. about how things will get resolved, how the country will get back on track, people are so frustrated, it drives people into stupidity. it drives them into stupidity. there are mass murders. no wonder, driven to stupidity. here: i think the point

the fact that people will continue to print guns regardless, it is relevant to what is going on especially considering that at the core end the fact that people will continue to print guns case, with wilson, what he was actually, what actually happened in the case, it had nothing to do with whether or not you could print your own guns or manufacture your own firearms or whether it was legal for americans to have the blueprints. it was more about whether or not it was legal to publish them on the internet. was was what hee

did wrong was published designs on the internet. theater and start shooting in theater theater instead of shog "fire," is clearly an understood limitation on our first amendment rights to speech. host: your thoughts on the argument? gun designs and gun

blueprints have been legal for well.ans to own andrew is in florida on the support line. caller: i support 3-d printed guns to be sold to members of the united states government like the cia and the military, and also to state governments and locals who may need those

weapons. andrew is in florida on the support line. caller:i support 3-d printing as long as the law is narrowly tailored, it won't go down a slippery slope. thank you, sir. is there a desire for these guns and certain part of the government or the military? i don't think so from a practical standpoint. again, the liberators, it is not really a very useful firearm in terms of something you would actually arm yourself with if you were a government official, if you wanted to use it for whatever,urposes or you know, as far as whether or not the government will want to buy 3-d printers, i do not think that will happen.

but certainly, the ideabut certt enforcement,gression because they would be the first ifple to stare down the guns they were walking through let's say a metal detector. i think the guns are mainly who are thet people

first responders and who are in law enforcement. guest: they did not fund the steel dossier, just to be clear on that. the second question about law enforcement concerns for 3-d guns, you know, i am not aware of any instance where a three printed firearm has been used in a crime to this point, and i would question how useful they would he to criminals even if they possessed the knowledge and equipment to make one. it is certainly not a common way for criminals to obtain guns. they mostly get them from stealing them or is -- using straw purchases or buying them from other criminals. there have been a few homemade guns that have managed to make their way into criminal cases, but even that is extremely -- extremely rare. host: how would you describe it? the freebie can. guest: it is -- the free beacon.

guest: it has certain editorial and wes, obviously, practice what it -- what we like to call combat journalism. it just means we go and cover things that perhaps the rest of media does not. guns is a fantastic example of this. i cover firearms exclusively for the free beacon, something that is quite rare in the media despite the fact that there is that almost shows half of american households have a firearm in their homes. a verythings that perhaps the rf media does not. important and big issue that gets very little coverage. host: a couple of minutes left with stephen gutowski, a staff writer. in bethesda, maryland, on the oppose line.

spirit first on technology. technology has a funny way of advancing. spirit first on technology. technology has a funny way of advancing. it seems to do that all the time. that is precisely why think spin technology. technology has a funny way of advancing. it seems to do that all the time. that is precisely why think -- what i think the designs are to do. technology. for those spirit first on technology. technology has a funny way of advancing. it seems to do that all the time. that is precisely why think -- what i think the designs are to do. technology. for those who think this will not be a big deal, it is plastic and will not work that well, what is the case that cody

wilson is involved in and general, whateys will happen next? guest: general, what will happen next? guest: they made the original claim against cody wilson's published designs. they actually tried to settle with him and give up the claim on the advice of the department of justice. eight states attorneys generals, -- in general, sued

the state department actually and got a temporary restraining order against them to enforce that settlement. as things stand, it goes back to the status quo of being prevented from publishing designs. the next up is the hearing on august 10. as things stand, it goes back to the status quowhich will addresr not the temporary restraining order becomes permanent. host: we can assume you will be writing about it for the washington free beacon? guest: absolutely. host: thank you so much for your time this morning. up next, author and retired lieutenant colonel ralph peters

will discuss the trump administration's foreign policy effort spirit we will be right back. >> tonight on the communicators, a look at the general data protection regulators, the new european privacy laws that will impact technology companies like google and facebook and joining us will be the torilla espanel, ceo of the software alliance. we all need to think of our data custodian responsibility. in the digital age, every company is a tech company in every company is a data company. everybody is collecting data about individuals and i think this law acknowledges a sea change in our thinking in the private sector and the government about the rights of ownndividual in his or her data and that person has ongoing rights even when the data is goodlegitimately by

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it's important to take partisanship out of foreign policy in that view in -- and not view it as a win for the president or the democrats but it's about our national security. it's about the future of the country and when you're dealing with a potential nuclear power that has the capacity to do phenomenal levels of harm, you're talking about the threat to civilization so the short answer is there were no positive results for us in the first summit. all went to north korea, propaganda victory, apart on the world stage. i believe there was a loosening of sanctions on the chinese part. reward summit would only kim jong-un and why reward him if there is no progress. host: is it better that we are talking and not escalating the rhetoric? of course.

we cannot allow kim jong-un more time to develop his missiles and weaponize nuclear warheads. war is the least desirable alternative except for failure. i'm a pragmatist when it comes to foreign policy. i want to know what works. rewarding the north koreans before they reciprocate in any way does not work. president after president has tried it. it goes back 20 years. if we think we can talk to the koreans or for the last 18 years to vladimir putin and one american present after another was bamboozled. these people are in power for decades and they know the game. they are masters at an our system which i look for different reasons handicaps the

presidents they are not elected on a foreign policy president. we elect them on domestic issues or their media appeal. when they get there, they tend to be overwhelmed. overwhelmed clinton by foreign-policy issues. george w. bush, overwhelmed by foreign-policy issues, barack obama, overwhelmed by foreign-policy issues. donald trump, overwhelming himself on foreign policy issues. even though all politics may be local, the world is interested in is even when we are not interested in them. the u.n. reported they believed north korea continues to develop a missile and nuclear technologies. at what point do you think we should switch from the talking to the stick. >> the sanctions had been making progress. guest: that's the only reason the talks happen in the first place.

i'm saying is premature to reward north korea. the idea that the chinese dreads north korean nuclear capability is ridiculous. they find them in your attempt at they find it exhilarating -- exhilarating. in the time of u.s. tension, it's a cheap way to tie down the united states. you have to look at the motives. it's always dangerous to assume that you are the master, the one who can talk people into anything. it did not work for donald -- for john kennedy and it will not work for donald trump. your callse taking on issues of foreign policy around the world. these are the numbers. host: you mentioned russia and

your background in the military was intelligence and specifically studying russia. i want you to assess the trump administration's efforts to secure the 2018 election. we are less than 100 days away, theyou confident intelligence community and are national security committee is doing everything they can to make sure these elections are fair and counted correctly? >> i am confident. they are doing everything they can lacking presidential directive. they are doing with their authorized to do on their own but without a president actively leading the fight in making the efforts cohere and making it not tolerate will interference in favor of either party and we will not tolerate interference in our elections -- of the president is not willing to do that, there something wrong. host: could they have had that press conference in the white

house briefing room with the head of national security, the homeland security secretary -- could they have done that without president trump agreeing? guest: there was one party absent from that meeting and it was president trump. i welcome those statements, of course but it was a display to cover the white house is blank. the president has to lead. we don't want the elected president of either party to keep on campaigning. he has to lead and protect the people. whatever his virtues and vices, the president has failed as comprehensively as possible when dealing with russian threats on multiple levels and specifically with election interference. despite overwhelming evidence to

among intelligence organizations, they say the russian interference in 2016 was real and was targeted. when you is a president are unwilling to admit that, you are on dangerous ground. host: we occasionally have callers saying that the concern about election security in 2018 is overblown because the russians have been trying to meddle in our elections for decades. how do you feel about those statements? guest: what's different about it today is the digital world. it's the internet. some people have high hopes for the internet but for me, it has the surreal of the subversive and clandestine attacks. hasway the internet empowered bad actors and foreign actors and in this case the

russians specifically, it has aabled them for a low output platform to do tremendous damage. people say don't worry about it but if the russians managed to change one vote, for me that's an attack upon our country. every boat should be equal. it should be sacred. allow the least interference in our electoral system. to the extent it's happened in the past, the russians did not have the means. the real fakenet news is generated in russia, that's doing real harm a daily basis to our national well-being and it is dividing us. the russians go after social movements, minority groups, trying to stir up hatred and we have hatred enough. thing, if i could do one

i would have every politician running any office anywhere in the country before the election take a polygraph test. host: what would you want to see? guest: corruption would be one thing. to a president, i would love have the would-be candidates televised and polygraph and asked them very few questions, nothing about their personal lives but say have you ever, in any respect betrayed the united states? have you ever profited from a foreign power with malevolence toward the united states. have you engaged -- have you paid your taxes fairly? those three questions. host: our viewers can chat with lieutenant ralph peters. greg is in illinois, republican, go ahead. caller: how are you doing? to throw the trump baby out with the bathwater.

successesfocus on the differentiating trump from obama. nuclear thingthe with iran which i think is great. today are reimposed on iran which i think is great. and hearm the ukraine has taken some offense of measures against russia where the obama administration did absolutely nothing with russia and in fact invited iran and russia to undermine syria. you have to remember that obama stood by 500,000 syrians and destabilized europe and obama just stood by. he has not been dealt a good hand but i agree with you a lot on behavior.

i think the russia stuff is troubling. i tend to look more on the better aspects. guest: i certainly respect your views. obama's not, president. comparing trump to obama is utterly unprecedented. my view, president trump is a dangerous indestructible and does not make president obama good president. he was weak and indecisive and ideologically sophomoric. the larger point is that neither party has produced a serious president over a quarter century. we are now electing personalities rather than statesmen. failures, wees and thegree on some things but iran obama deal was a bad deal. they wanted so badly begot a bad deal.

however, i opposed abrogating the deal the way trump did because our allies were already enmeshed. you have to think about the second and third order. my concern is that president does some good things, and least our military in syria and fought china over trade. he could have had the world united against chinese trade cheating but instead, he attacked canada, mexico, the eu and south koreans. you always want to have allies. as far as the iran deal, a lousy deal but it could hurt our alliances. always criticize alliances -- my first published article was criticizing nato's defense contract. it has to be constructive. alliances are vital. i oppose anything that does

profound or potentially profound damage to the web of alliances that have kept the peace around the world. with president trump, some of what he is doing may simply be naivete. the globalr studied strategic environment. when it comes back to the russia connection and i see what he will and won't do, you and i, we are americans and can disagree and i worry profoundly about vladimir putin's influence over donald trump. he is spending a lot of time in the dying soviet union and the new russia and i know the way the russian and former soviet security people do business. closer to them than i am to john right now physically speaking. -- much ofly, what what i see happening tracks the way they do business. host: the line for democrats, good morning. caller: thank you for taking my

call. two weeks ago, congress voted in favor of authorizing 708 billion in defense spending for 2019 but less than 1% of the federal budget goes toward foreign aid investments. relates to foreign policy, i think the trump administration and congress should protect the international fairness budget and increase funds for the state department and usaid. can the guest speaker provide his opinion as far as our inntry investing more foreign assistance to impoverished nations? all, while wef criticize the nato members for spendinghitting 2% of on defense, overwhelmingly, the europeans spend more money on aid to struggling nations than we do. we spend very little on foreign aid.

was in favor of some increases of foreign agent aid to some struggling countries but the problem is, our bureaucracy does not do it very effectively. the size of the defense budget was the other issue. to defense budget -- we want maintain the strongest offense in the world. that promotes peace, not war. we have devolved in this country into a situation where the defense industry is a cartel. enormous amounts for weapons that don't work the way they are supposed to, basically planned obsolescence. , you willntractors the streeta bum on are used to be a defense contractor or ceo. ifould look for real savings i was king of the world. the death grip the defense industry has on the defense budget makes it almost

impossible to get good value for the dollar. i want a strong defense and i often feel it program like the f-22 and others, the american people are getting ripped off. the problem with the way congress deals with this. host: how many aircraft carriers is enough for the u.s. military? that: we don't know because my concern about aircraft carriers is that they are magnificent tools in peace time and made intensity conflicts like we have seen the gulf. i don't believe they are going to survive. were we ever to fight china, china would immediately go after aircraft carriers. i've yet to be convinced that the defense mechanisms would them surviving. it's very important in defense as you go forward not only not to be fighting the last war but fromo be fighting the war

four years ago. the navy is still fighting the battle of midway in the second world war to a great degree. carriers are wonderfully effective in the persian gulf and elsewhere, the kind of conflict we have been in, but the navy refuses to accept the fact that they are vulnerable in a big war. mattis, i believe is doing a great job. he is one man i trust implicitly in this administration. he is a dedicated patriot but the job of reforming defense is greater than any one man. host: salem, missouri, line for republicans. aller: i'd like to take section of colonel peters's statement that donald trump did not any -- did not get any concessions out of north korea. for one thing, he is d escalating the rhetoric. he managed to get them to stop missile testing.

i believe they have disassembled their nuclear capabilities for manufacturing warheads. of somegot the return of our deceased service members from the korean war. he has opened up negotiations that have been stalemated since the armistice with the north for years. he has advanced considerable alleviate efforts to the bad rhetoric going on between both nations. i don't know how you control china. they will do what they are going to do so blaming the president for what china does is not going to work. i think the president's onlingness to call out china trade cheating and intellectual properties is a very good thing. north korea is not stopped its

development of nuclear weapons and nuclear warheads. it has not dismantled any factories. they were smart enough to know that president trump needed a few takeaways so they demolished a testing site on the surface. not a very important site. the other thing they did, i'm glad they sent back what they claim are the remains of american soldiers. i actually worked on the issue of p.o.w. -- mia for about 1.5 years in the 1990's looking at the korean war specifically. for the families, it will be a great thing. sense, ill strategic respect your opinion but i do not see were president trump got anything and i think the north koreans got a huge propaganda victory. we don't have a chokehold on them. the sanctions were working.

the answer was to add more sanctions. not to get chummy. host: randy is in iowa, republican. caller: lieutenant colonel peters, i agree with you on a majority of your statements. policyto tie the foreign of the previous administrations, the two wars in afghanistan and iraq with the debt. for trump to go out -- it took him a lead in months of -- with the tax cuts to put america back in debt and paying anything on a credit card with an exploding annual budget. is not thecan party republican party five years ago who had austerity and cried about the debt every day. trump is a unicorn. the republican party is betting on the unicorn and all these people think there is a physical

way you can fuel more wars around the world with public debt is crazy. i served in germany in the 1970's. we had allies there and our allies matter. up bless you for stepping and taking the criticism and doing the right thing, sir. thank you very much for c-span and have a nice day. glad you raisely the issue of fiscal responsibility. i am an independent. i but -- i vote for the best man or woman but i probably vote republican 60 or 625% of the time in my life. i don't recognize a republican. the freedom caucus on the hill, you should call it the clinton caucus. it's nice to buy stuff on the credit card but like

individuals, nations eventually have to pay their bills. that wentts overwhelmingly to those who did not need it appalled me. tax cuts for corporations. a limited tax cut for corporations made sense but to cut it to 20% -- we will see what happens. let's hope a miracle occurs and gallops into the sunset of fiscal responsibility was always a hallmark of republicans. it gone. you cannot expect fiscal responsibility from the democrats will stop it's a race to see who can spend more money on what. sometimes wars are necessary but but there is a mix of good intentions and absolute stupidity. we have been involved in the wrong wars for too long. host: president trump spent a lot of time with our nato allies to get them to live up to their

obligations of military spending under nato. why do so few of those nations live up to their allegations in and they are -- and are they leaning on the united states? guest: we allow them to lean on us. there is no question that they should be pushing toward 2% and progress is made after we have reached that point. when you look at our defense expenditures which are about 3.3% of gdp, if you broke those to the middlegoes it dependsould find a run the numbers. a number of countries contribute a much greater share of gdp to foreign aid which can also help from -- prevent wars.

i don't have a problem with trump saying they need to pay more but my problem is with the tax on the alliance itself. the core of the nato alliance as in any military alliance, is dependability. article five, every nation in nato, no matter how small has to be able to count on the united states eating there for them it's the obstruction in trust in the nato alliance and other alliances, in economic trade treatiese are essentially alliances. the destruction of trust is causing damage that will last for a long time. taking your calls for about 10 more minutes. lieutenant colonel robert peters is with us talking about foreign

policy around the world. peter is in north carolina, an independent, good morning. caller: yes, a statement was made that if russia change one vote that it would be her friend is. it came from north carolina. in. are 13h carolina, there voting districts in north carolina. 10 of the districts, two of the three voters are democrats. of the 13 representatives in congress, 10 are republican and reared in rats. directionkewed in one , why are weeople

worried about russia? we are doing it to ourselves. guest: gerrymandering is just tasteful. -- is just tasteful. --istastefukl we need to worry about the russians a lot. is a purelyin destructive force in the world stage. all its many flaws, the 70 years of peace was the longest period of peace in european history. you would think you can cut the cord but you cannot. in the 21st century, weird dragging a war. it's important to be a fully not ourat if russia is anonymity is why rush to their

enemy, -- when i worked on the pentagon in the 90's, we did everything we could to help the russians and bring them along. u.s. president as another as treasury shout to russia. they tried to reach out to prudent and he has made a fool out of one present after another. in hates the united states. role that think tanks tend to ignore. putin used us as the ultimate villain, we destroyed the soviet union he loves. he said the greatest tragedy of the 20th century was not the holocaust to him but it was the soviet union.e he is doing his best to do us harm. i don't care if it's a democrat or republican, i want a president who will see through vladimir putin and stand up to

who will take aggressive action against vladimir putin when necessary. longnt has been waiting so that he has no reverse year. affiliates a wall, he will not stop. he is doing his very best to destabilize not only our elections but the european elections. if you think pieces expensive, try war. alabama, line for republicans, good morning. caller: good morning. haas on the council of foreign relations, the kernel uses vague terms like meddling and messing with our elections. what they don't say is what the russians really did specifically. what they really did was they revealed -- they are the ones that hacked into those computers and they may have.

all that did was revealed to the american public the corruption in the democratic party when donna brazil was giving questions to hillary before the debates. thatowed the contempt major members of the democratic party had for hillary. if the new york times had got that information and publish it, they would get a pulitzer prize. like they did for the pentagon papers. they revealed the truth. guest: this is a wonderful country because we can accommodate many different views of reality. russians did manipulate the lines of the american public with phony news sites, funny andbook sites, trying perhaps exceeding in reaching .nto one presidential campaign

apparently, they placed russian stooges like paul manafort in a presidential campaign. you have the trump tower meeting not even trump says it was about russian adoptions. when they were trying to infiltrate campaigns, staging propaganda websites, trying to and incite hatred among american minorities, trying to disrupt it -- the concrete intelligence is there, it's not just said fading the had a comprehensive attack upon our election. i don't know what more i can say, the evidence is there. our intelligence agencies at unanimously agreed this. -- believe this. my view is donald trump did not win the election, the democrats the the election by rigging election in favor of hillary but that's a different issue.

always goes back to the same thing. not president. hillary clinton is not present as well as george w. bush. donald trump's president and we need to focus on the president we have in office now and the harm he may be doing to our country. flint, michigan for democrats, good morning. caller: good morning, colonel. opinion you your seem to have a negative view of his presidency. i think you are a republican. when you look at the last number of presidents going back to president reagan, people say he won the cold war but we tend to about the towers bombing with numerous marines were killed in. that was a foreign policy disaster.

during that same time, the iranians so where is the really -- sold weapons illegally and supported the country with that money. while i don't agree with everything president obama did, he also killed osama bin laden. he tried to get is out to wars we started the wars under false pretenses. i think we should be more fair willie jett former president's and rp their racket as it is. i am an independent. i have never been a registered republican or democrat. my loyalty is the united states of america, not a political party. as far as obama, i'm sorry, in view view, he was indecisive.

i think he meant well but he was forever arguing with himself to act or not to act. his indecision hurt us badly. badly as donald trump shenanigans but it hurt us. it set the stage for trump. when it comes to getting us out te ofrs,the naive presidents when it comes to foreign policy, obama wanted out of over -- out of iraq and he created a vacuum that allowed isis. he stayed in afghanistan and wanted to appear to be strong. afghanistan was a roach motel for osama bin laden's boys. argument was always, if we leave afghanistan, we will have to go back. he we been there for 17 years. going back would've been cheaper. as reagan goes, cobart

towers was under clinton. clinton did nothing. look at the presidents from both parties from clinton forward, republican and democrat. they have come to office with a strong domestic agenda. presidents come to office with a and they are consumed by foreign policy because the world will not go away. my argument is that presidents need to be steeped in foreign policy and we the american voters need to demand the presidents layout comprehensive foreign policy goals. it won't happen. americans are not interested. you may not be interested in foreign policy but it's interested in you. host: time for one or two more calls.

from north carolina, an independent, go ahead. caller: yes, i have been listening to you and these views. they are all good and i make good points. the thing is, everybody keeps talking about we shouldn't do this or shouldn't do that. together got to come and work to get this country straightened out instead of passing the blame and the hate. as far as the election interference, we have more of that in the white house about who won and who lost. it's already over. he was elected. i have family that served in every war. it bothers me the rhetoric on the democrats side has so much hate rather than to work. guest: that is great.

i try to raise this point often public speaking. easy to be us versus them. for both parties, the extreme fringes of cash or the primaries. we hear the hating voice and of the voice cover my eyes. the founding fathers built a government on horse trade. nobody gets everything, that's tyranny. i want this and you want that, ok, come along with my proposal and i will go along with yours. it's not dramatic but that's the way our government is supposed to work on compromise. we have to remember we are all americans know matter who we voted for or what choices we made. we are all americans and we should absolutely be shoulder to shoulder against foreign

enemies.right now, we are torn -- foreign enemies have helped us tear each other apart. earlier erash of had consciences. they did not have the conscience we wanted but look at carnegie and andrew mellon. and what i see with notable exceptions like bill gates, is a self adoration, self-involvement among the new tech millionaires. if a tech arena wanted to truly do something for this country, they would found a centrist political party that would attract the sensible people from the democratic and republican party. right now, we want to categorize people.

on some issues we may be right. i'm pretty hard right on national defense. on the environment, i'm probably left of john muir. i don't understand why conservatives are not for conservation. most of us are more complex than the rhetoric allows for. if we recognize each other's complexity and accept that and get together for the good of this country, a centrist political party would win in a landslide. host: seems like a good place to end, thank you for your time this morning, come back again. withxt, we will end today open phones, and a public policy issue to discuss on these lines. you can start calling him now, we will be right back. ♪ ♪

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with open phones letting you drive the discussion. any public policy issue want to talk about, we can do it now. glenn is calling from shreveport, louisiana, an independent, go ahead. are you with us? >> yes, good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. why is sources -- why is social security cap? do the wealthy get any of their social security back? , it slippedestion my mind. to your first question, how are you doing in retirement?

are you retired? caller: yes, i had a dance with cancer and i won. i feel good about it. i am 70 and keep in on keeping on. thanks for the call. plainfield, new jersey democrat, good morning. caller: over the weekend, i heard the president make some very inappropriate comments and saidron james' iq something about don lemons iq. he has made also aggressive comments about maxine waters. i wish someone would take an iq of this man because when i hear his the, he is the most incoherent, bigoted person that he says he hates all time.

whenever he says something bad about people of color, people cheer. a racist partyy and the people in denial about her either just as racist about it as the president or just in denial. i checked with the bureau of labor statistics, the on employment rate for people of color did not go down under this president. that's another one of the 16 daily lies that comes out of this president every day. path.p is truly the judy host: randy is republican oklahoma, go ahead. caller: good morning. i just wanted to comment on general -- on lieutenant colonel peters. i make marine intel officer back in the 80's under reagan.

i was an adamant anti-communist. the soviet union had a different and rose out of the rubble of communism. vladimir putin is against the ruling government that trump is inviting. haslieve donald trump brought this out like nobody. he does during the campaign and revealed how the press had a shadow government. vladimir putin knows that's a shadow government. he is fighting with that. we are hoping that we can get to overthrow this

thing. some people would call it something that has destroyed the russian nation. from twitter -- we are taking your comments at c-spanwj. richard is a democrat in california, good morning. caller: thank you to c-span. there are so many things wrong with trump that it's hard to pin it down in a paragraph.

opinion about trump was he was going to be the most corrupt investigative and possibly indicted president and u.s. history is pretty much for filling that role. the constitution in relation to the first amendment and the free press. also, he is probably in the violation of the emoluments clause with their research. his policies are influenced by russia. it's not collusion, it's a conspiracy with a foreign government in terms of information regarding our election system.

it has been proven that the russians hacked everything and tried to influence the election for trump. i think the other major thing bully pulpit a where he is lied about two dozen times in a year and a half. heis pitting one segment calls his base which is basically a white, conservative --ngelical tuolumne group delusional group. he pits everyone else in america of race, color, and create against them in terms of their beliefs if they don't believe that and give them these scapegoats super dollar hat -- they hate and anger out there. host: guest: he mentions the upcoming election. it's going to be another day of primaries tomorrow. primaries in kansas and missouri and michigan and washington tomorrow and we will talk about them on "washington journal" and

there is that special election taking place in ohio. tune into the 9:00 hour tomorrow and we will spend that our going through a busy primary day at the beginning of august. tom is in personal bill, virginia, good morning. caller: i think you are the voice of reason while everyone is losing their heads. i appreciate the gentleman you have on before. his tone and his ideas and the that he can walk her through these things. we i used to play in a band we have is amplifiers and the guys and about the was gravely crank amplifiers but we always sounded worse. we had so much amplification in society and people think is making things better but it really concerns me. with a fire agency

in california my hat goes off to those folks as well. it's a dangerous situation. when i was with the fire agency, we would have people who were fire chief for firefighters that got arrested. they would light a fire and put it out and the one caller said that trump has gotten north korea to stop doing the missiles. he inflamed that situation so bad and then turns around and says well i've solved the korean problem. he is like an arson that turns around and puts the fire out. i think there is so much rhetoric going on that it's hard to really get a feel for what will happen here. i hope that people will take a breath and quit reading all the crazy propaganda on the internet and go to the library and read a book and volunteering your community. people just screaming at each other, we are giving the russians everything they want.

host: you fought fires in california. the president tweeted yesterday that california wildfires are being magnified and made worse by the bad environmental laws which are not allowing massive amounts of readily available water to be utilized. i want to get your thoughts on that tweet. caller: i've dealt with a lot of that. it seems unfortunate that he's to makenatural disaster an economic point. he wants to say that the farmers in the central valley need more water. there have been the versions from the delta. will build athere giant titles.

with california, it's in the northeast. . they have to have an of water. it's much more complicated. in a tweet coming only get some he words. it's a simplistic view. the bigger issue is you have people building houses and places they should not. do it out here on islands where there are hurricanes and long the mississippi. i see some of the numbers coming out of there and my jaw drops. you have miles of fire lines. you are talking about huge swaths of land. peoplethe best for those because really dangerous work. thanks for walking us through it. republican, tennessee, go ahead. caller: i called in the other

and they hung me up when i mentioned obama's name. will you please not hang me up? host: go ahead with your comment. is when hecomment it was frozenoney for a good reason and obama was asked immediately after a year , do you think he can be used for terrorism? he paused and said yes i believe it would be. when was this? caller: the other day on a show about iran. when was this?

i know he did not want to answer the question but the fact of the matter is, they we use have to kill soldiers and he should be held for treason. we give money to countries that might need it but knowing that why, he said that, that's we are conservative republicans. the news on the iran friend with washington planning to reimpose sanctions today after with its withdrawal from the 2015 nuclear accord. president trump withdrew the united states met multinational deal.

that's the top issue and the five things to know on a monday morning from usa today. we have time for a few more calls on open phones. an independent is waiting, go ahead. caller: good morning. last year, had the pleasure of an invitation to visit russia. and the blackochi sea area. to see the history and tradition and the unified peoples of the country. it just a standard me. i see a patriotism and a that these people carry in their pride of losing 50 million plus people in world

war ii or suffered under the nazi invasion. host: who invited you on the trip? caller: it was a family of a of a russian member i met in the caribbean years ago. the point on trying to make is the stigma that the press is giving russian people as a whole , because of putin, is just deplorable. i feel bad that we are having a cold war almost resurrection. having sat with them at dinner in their homes and their hospitality and having told me personally that they understand in their they know

best english telling me that we know he's criminal but he's our criminal. was that theyay accept him as a national leader good or bad and what we do here to our president in turn is just appalling. perestroika and we talked about glasgow most -- gorbachev tookse away their nationalism and he opened up the country to capitalism and free enterprise. that wasountry and and i camen away a standard. i'm a former combat veteran.

i had taken some of the personal belongings off of north vietnamese first aid packets and i thought the irony i thought they are our silent enemy. as proud these people russians, as we are proud americans. host: we will have to end it there. morningbe back tomorrow . have a great monday in the meantime. ♪

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