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d.c., starting with the d.c. united against hate counter protests against white nationalists, followed by the night the unite the right to rally in lafayette park. ♪ this week on cue and a, propublica are -- senior reporter talks about covering mexico and the u.s. government immigration policy. brian lamb: ginger thompson, when did you get interested in reporting on mexico? ginger thompson: i grew up on the u.s. mexico border. i am an army brat. for my high school years, i lived in el paso, texas.

been a part of my life. i learned to speak spanish very early. i spent weekends with my friends and their grandparents. i have been interested in mexico for a long time. when i became a journalist, the fact that i spoke spanish gave me a bit of an adage over some because therees were not a lot of spanish speaking reporters in newsrooms. i was working at the los angeles times and to say that about the l.a. times is something. andarted as an intern there spoke spanish, covered spanish-speaking communities. became athat, it natural progression that i would go to mexico for assignments and eventually apply at the baltimore sun to be there latin american correspondent. from the beginning, writing

about people in spanish-speaking communities was of interest to me. brian lamb: how do you describe the difference between el paso ez? warez --juar ginger thompson: el paso is one of the safest in america and the other is one of the most dangerous cities in mexico. it is a booming industrial town. el paso is dependent on military. it is a military base, and military hub. they are divided by this border and they earn their money in different ways. the families in those communities are very interconnected. kids go to school on both sides of the border.

people go to the hospital on both sides of the border. families on one side have relatives on the other side. they shopped together, they go to restaurants together. interconnected community. the idea of a wall dividing them is a loose concept when you were on the border people --. people do not feel divided as much as they feel connected. brian lamb: if you grew up there and know that so well, what was your reaction when it became such an issue in the 2016 election? ginger thompson: for a long time, people in washington have a different understanding of the border than people who live on the border. on much of my life, i lived the border and i understand it in a way that, when i come to washington and hear people talk about it and at the security problems and at the division between the people, i think, that is not representative of

what is going on. politicize -- immigration has been a third rail and american politics. having the border -- it's an easy target for politicians who want to blame others for problems that we have in the country. it has long been an easy mark. think one of the reasons reporting on this subject is important to me is because i think i bring a background that allows me to have an understanding of these issues that may be others do not keep have not lived there. brian lamb: when you were growing up, what service were your parents and? ginger thompson: my father was in the army. he was an electrician. he joined the army because he was a young man and florida who

was able to finish high school, but not able to go to college. this was his way to get an education and get a job i wish he could support himself and his family. brian lamb: where did he meet your mother? ginger thompson: pennsylvania. he was in a military base outside of harrisburg, where she is from. brian lamb: how many different places have you lived? ginger thompson: i have not lived in that many places. we lived in alaska and kentucky, four campbell. we lived on fort bliss. we went back and forth between el paso and alaska. it was mostly alaska. and texas, where i grew up. brian lamb: what year did you go to work for the new york times and what was your assignment? ginger thompson: i went to the -- i always have to count.

sun int the baltimore 1992 to 1995, so 1998i went to the new york times and it went to in latin america for the new york times in 2000. brian lamb: how long were you there? years.thompson: six i had been there for the baltimore sun. altogether in latin america, i have spent 12 or 13 years. brian lamb: where did you live? ginger thompson: mexico city. i lived in a neighborhood which is a west village of mexico city . it has become very hip. it hasn't some of the coolest restaurants. there is a beautiful park called mexico park. brian lamb: i looked up statistics on mexico and how it fits in the world. it is the 14th largest country and area. 31 states.

is, what dotting at you find americans know about mexico and what do they not know? ginger thompson: what americans unfortunately see mexico through classns of the working people who are the largest numbers of mexican people who live here. workers,, factory restaurant workers. large, vibrant, diverse country. the southern part of the country does not look anything like the northern part. it is like the u.s. california is nothing like kentucky. like the stateng in the north. misunderstand the

sophistication of the country. is an intellectually havent place where people a real sophisticated understanding of the world and of their history. the are very aware of united states in way as i do not think we understand mexico with the same degree of complexity and sophistication sometimes. brian lamb: there is something like 38 million mexican descendents in the country? how many americans live there? ginger thompson: good question. i am not sure. fraction of that 38 million. it is not many. many of them are in places in the north where there are

, a larget communities enclave of american ex-pats. brian lamb: gdp is like $20,000. what kind of lives do they lead? ginger thompson: it is a very diverse place. it is hard to generalize about mexico. of the country, farming is the leading economic engine. and other parts, it is industry. in other parts, it is tour is him. -- tourism. it depends. mexico has one of the richest men in the world. he makes the forbes list every year. who earnry poor people two dollars a day. between.g in just the way the united states is.

what happens is, there is a whoer percentage of people are poor and feel they do not have opportunity for education or to own their own property. loans in mexico are very complicated. when you are looking at reasons any people came -- they are not coming in the same numbers anymore. for a while, so many mexicans came to the u.s. seeking better opportunities for education or living because their minimum wage is much lower than ours. their minimum wage is four dollars a day. here, they can make six dollars an hour. when you look at those economic factors, it is easy to see why so many people would come to the u.s. brian lamb: someone will yesterday was talking about the fact we have lost one million

jobs because of nafta since 1994. how much of that has gone to mexico? ginger thompson: a large number -- more of those jobs have gone to asia. there has been a couple hundred thousand of those that have gone to mexico. bigger draw in terms of manufacturing jobs for the u.s. there have also been a large number of jobs created because of trade with mexico. oftentimes, some of the factories that are american factories in the u.s., they are putting together pieces of machines or cars or appliances whose beginnings were in the u.s.. the initial assembly happens on the u.s. side of the border. the larger less sophisticated parts of the assembly happen in mexico. this idea that nafta has been

more of a drain on our economy then a generator of jobs and opportunity is not right. brian lamb: how do you explain the fact that hundreds of journalists have been killed since the year 2000 and mexico? ginger thompson: mexico's biggest problem is with rule of law. impunity. and corruption. mexico,mes happen in 98% of those crimes go unsolved. people literally get away with murder. the weakening of the institutions -- not the

weakening, but the lack of strong institutions in mexico, particularly when it comes to the justice system, is what has created the problems of violence in the country in general. journalists, it is mexico in the last two years. tens of thousands of people are killed a year. when criminal organization or criminal government institutions want to send a signal to the abouty is to stay silent these abuses, they go after .ournalists since no one is often punished for those crimes, more journalists will be killed did

you live with that in mind brian lamb: were you careful? ginger thompson: i am always careful when i go down there. one thing that has been true about this number of journalists is that none of them are american. american journalists enjoy a level of protection that mexican colleagues do not have. people do not want to bring the wrath of u.s. law enforcement down upon them. -- orave not yet attacked killed -- there are threats and there is an imitation. there have not been actual murders of american journalists. if americans were to travel to ifico -- brian lamb: americans were to travel to mexico, what part of the country

would you have no crime at all? ginger thompson: i'm not sure there is any place where there is no crime at all. brian lamb: you know what i'm talking about. ginger thompson: look, people ask me all the time, is it safe for me to go? it depends on where you're going. many beach communities that people enjoy our fine. al capone go has become one of the most dangerous cities in mexico. thereot suggest people go and neither does the state department. cancun is still fine. staying in taurus areas of cancun, rather than going into the non-touristy area are important.

a lot of the same ways you do in barcelona or matured. you need to be careful of street crime. parts, there are many safe andat are still good for taurus. brian lamb: what is the difference between dass and the way we view our border from the way we do? i think mexican see an opportunity. they see the border as an /pportunity for trade they see the border as an opportunity for travel.

the american concept of the border is about a threat. we see the border as a threat. we think it is a kind of place we like to avoid. it is a bit of an optimistic .pportunity kind of focus we see it as marvelous great place. when i tell people i'm from the border, they often think you go across. i walked across.

there are not government institutions to fill the voids. mexican immigrants often do in their own communities. that relationship with mexican migrants is a very important one to the mexican government. brian lamb: correct me if i am

wrong, hundred 25 million people are there? it is the eighth most visited country in the world. there are 1.3 million afro mexicans. ginger thompson: yeah. aren lamb: the 83% of them roman catholic. the eighth -- free agency of the american government, the d.o.a., the u.s. immigration and customs enforcement, ice, and border patrol. have you done stories about how those three organizations relate to mexico? ginger thompson: i have been a lot of stories about those three organizations. a lot of my work has been about the role those agencies play in mexico, sometimes covert roles they play in helping mexico fight the drug war.

the immigration and customs enforcement recently, for example, had worked with mexico on its own southern border to deter central american immigrants from coming into mexico who are headed to the u.s. and to turn those immigrants back around. drug enforcement administration long history in 1970, and has sent dozens of undercover agents. the drug enforcement administration says -- has more .gents abroad around the world most of those foreign agents are in mexico. agents allens of dea over the country helping that government, helping the

military, helping the mexican federal police force dismantle drug cartels. in ways we do not always talk about because mexico is protective of its sovereignty and does not like to talk publicly about the ways it has allowed american law enforcement operate. we are there in big ways. brian lamb: there is a big political controversy about ice. can you explain why? --ger thompson: i think what ice is that migrations custom enforcement, which grew out of the creation of the department of homeland security after 9/11. what a lot of its work has been involved in finding undocumented

immigrants who not only are on the border, not only stopping them at the border, which a lot of people agree is the right thing to do, but to go into neighborhoods and workplaces and schools and hospitals and churches and courtrooms across the country to find immigrants who are living in neighborhoods. that has been a controversial thing because oftentimes, these immigrants have families here, have businesses, they have children. they are deeply rooted in the communities. -- hasfter them has made created tension between immigrant communities and their own law enforcement. it has been hard to get police to get immigrant communities to cooperate with them in investigating crimes and even in reporting crime.

there is a conversation now about whether ice should be allowed to do that. whether it is so disruptive to the overall good of the community, which needs to have with laws cooperate enforcement and other agencies to protect the community against potential public harm, whether nots illness and people wanting to come forward to report when their children are sick with the measles, for example, to domestic violence, assault, homicide. when you have these communities that are closed off from the rest of society, it can pose problems for everyone. what year did you leave the times and go to propublica? ginger thompson: i left in 2014. brian lamb: why did you do that? ginger thompson: i was really

committed to investigative reporting. idea of love the pursuing investigative stories with the goal of impact, the goal of making change. writing inested in ways that went beyond newspaper journalism. i was interested in writing for magazines and potentially doing television and podcast. the range of opportunities that were offered to me from part -- propublica were appealing. brian lamb: how does operate? propublica is a nonprofit investigative news focused onn that is stories in the public interest, meaning, we look for stories that exposed harm or wrongdoing

that is being committed by public agencies, corporations, or by any organization or institution that serves the public. we write everything from stories harm, anditals doing schools and educational programs that are not serving children as they should, to civil rights litigation against school district. justice stories, people who have been wrongly prosecuted , we cover the military, a whole range. brian lamb: when it started, a man of the wall street journal went over to run it. fist democratic to

some gave $10 million to start it up. how much of it is involved in partisan politics? ginger thompson: propublica is a nonpartisan organization. we have written critically about officials,public president obama, and republican public officials. we are an equal opportunity investigative news organization. we identify wrongdoing wherever we see it. it does not depend at all on partisan politics. brian lamb: who pays for it today> ? ginger thompson: we have a range of supporters now. societyng from the open , to the samplers, to macarthur. increased the numbers of

people who donate to us in small .ndividual donations it has increased significantly in the last couple of years. have a broad range of people who fund the organization. brian lamb: you got involved in a story on the border with the mothers and two fathers and the children being separated. let me run this. representative, a democrat from california, on the floor of the house of representatives in june 22 did this, you can tell us what it is only running. >> imagine being ripped away from your mother or father and not knowing if you will ever see them again. and then being placed in a detention facility with strangers.

imagine the horror and fear you would see. [crying] what must that some might? -- sound like? [more crying] [indiscernible] are babies and kids at detention facilities. why do you not let the american people here what they are saying? brian lamb: have you seen that before? ginger thompson: no. brian lamb: he turned on an audio recorder. what were the hearing? cries ofompson: the children, immigrant children who have just been separated from their parents in a border patrol detention facility. it was an audio that i obtained with thend a half ago

help of a lawyer, civil rights attorney. andobtained this tape thought it was important and shared it with me. she asked what i thought about it and i told her i thought we should publish it. it was not an easy decision for the source of the tape, who felt the tape could put them at risk. it could put them at risk for being identified and fired. agreed to ultimately allow me and propublica to publish the audio. brian lamb: where was it made? ginger thompson: i cannot say exactly. it was made in a border patrol detention facility. we were able to verify the tape was authentic. there is a little girl on the

namedrom el salvador jimela. you can hear on the table asking an official to let her make a phone call. she is pleading with this official. saying please, let me, it on i have her number memorized. she rattles off the number. i called the number. i found a woman in houston who is her aunt who talk to me -- talked to me about her niece and the detention of the border. and about how she had gotten a call from her niece from the border patrol detention facility and we were able to corroborate the tape was real. brian lamb: what were the circumstances that the mother and daughter came across the border? ginger thompson: the mother is a

salvadoran woman who says she was walking with her daughter ,nd her boyfriend in salvador she lives in a small community outside of the capital. she says she was walking with her boyfriend and he was shot by a gang member who is well known in the community and told her if she said anything about who had committed the crime, she would be next. brian lamb: was he killed? ginger thompson: the boyfriend was killed. so she stayed quiet. he continued to threaten her and her daughter. so she felt she cannot take it anymore and she was really afraid that something would happen to her little girl. to the united states. brian lamb: where do they access the u.s.? ginger thompson: they came

across the rio grande. we have a picture of them on a raft crossing the river with a smuggler he was there guide. they were picked up very quickly after they crossed the border into the u.s. into south texas and attained. -- detained. brian lamb: what happened to them when they were picked up? ginger thompson: they were detained and help for today's. on the second day, an official said to her, asked her child to come with him and she said why are you taking my child? he said you are going to court today. do not worry, your child will be here when you get back. when she got back from court, her child was not there. they were separated for a month and two days. brian lamb: where did the mother say -- stay?

what of the daughter go? ginger thompson: she stayed at a facility called port isabel. it is near the southern tip of texas. the daughter was flown to a shelter in arizona. it was in phoenix. there and the mother was kept in texas. they had their first phone call 10 days after they were separated. the little girl, because she had memorized the phone number, was able to be in touch with her on. -- on to. --aunt. lostevented her from being in the system. when they separate the kids from the parents, there are no records kept of which children belong to which adults. their cases, their asylum cases were separated. records that link

them. because she remembered the phone number, she could tell authorities to she belonged to. that made all the difference. brian lamb: what was the law that they had to obey in our country? ginger thompson: the administration, in an attempt to deter people like jimema's mother from coming, again to enforce operation zero-tolerance . nobody comes to the u.s.. zero tolerance. was call foric everyone who cross the border without documents to be criminally prosecuted for the crime of illegal entry. we had not done that before. typically, if you cross the border illegally, you would get charged as a

misdemeanor, and turned back. now they are criminally prosecuting these people. criminallyess of prosecuting them, they said they needed to be taken away from their children. this was meant to stop people from coming. they enforce the policy and began separating parents for children. they separated close to 3000 children from their parents from the time this policy was implemented in april intel -- until a judge ordered an end to the policy, forced the administration to retreat from the policy and ruled against the policy shortly afterwards. i want to say it was a month ago. brian lamb: what kind of a facility was the mother captain and what kind of facility in phoenix was the daughter

captain? -- kept in. ginger thompson: it was a very traditional immigration detention facility. hunk,bunk, a room with dozens of bunks and there were 70 women in the barracks she was held and they all slept in bunk beds and had a mess hall. the child was kept in a children's shelter in arizona. exactly what the shelter looks like. there are very few reporters that have been given access to the shelters. to detention facilities. it used to be routine for reporters to go into the facilities to interview detainees or see how children were being housed. once the policy began and the

coverage of the policy began, the administration quickly shut down and made it difficult for us to go into the facilities, except on very restrict did guided tour's. brian lamb: there were a bunch of stories during that time. where the american airlines said they would not fly these children. how was the six-year-old flown to phoenix? aller thompson: not airlines agreed to do that. there were some airlines, a period of a couple of days where passengers realized they were unaccompanied minors being flown, accompanied by shelter staff and it caused an outrage. my understanding is, that did becausen for very long the fact is, these children transported and

moving them by car was worse for them than flying. decisionthink the lasted long because she was flown both to phoenix and when she was reunited with her mother, she was flown from phoenix to houston. brian lamb: somebody in border patrol are one of these people have to accompany her? ginger thompson: that's right. someone from the shelter accompanied her back to houston. brian lamb: when we were originally going to do this interview, you were on a train coming down from new york. what happened? ginger thompson: i got a call saying that her mother is about to be released. release also meant jimena would be reunited with

her. jimena had kind of become the voice for so many of these are in detention or who had been separated from their parents. i thought being able to follow the story from the time of the separation to this i'm a big reunification was important. know after theto audio was released, i was and noteswith calls from people saying, please keep us informed about what is going on. is there a way i can help this little girl or the mother? there was a lot of public interest and what was going to happen to the family. there is also a way for us to watch the process. there is a way to see how the government was going to try to fix this mess it made of separating these families.

how are they going to put the families back together? from theto be there moment she stepped out of the detention facility. i barely made it. [laughter] brian lamb: what did you find when you got there? ginger thompson: when i got there, she had just been released. i managed to find a fabulous photographer who met her outside of the facility, met with her lawyer and was able to send me a photograph of the actual moment she was released. she and i met for the first time in a hotel lobby. in arlington, texas. our first face-to-face conversation. we had spoken on the telephone. brian lamb: where are the two now, the mother and daughter? ginger thompson: they are in houston. the mother has family in

houston. she and jimena are staying with relatives. brian lamb: what is her legal status? ginger thompson: they are pursuing the asylum claim. their first hearing is coming up in a couple of weeks. it is really important. whether herrmine asylum case will proceed. brian lamb: as you know, there are people watching this who are not happy about this. ginger thompson: absolutely. brian lamb: on your website, i found something you have probably seen. i will read part of it. this is somebody by the name of sky trooper 70. comment after your story on the propublica website. here she says, you have been covering this story for a month now. it is heart wrenching to see

examples of separated families, -- let me stop there. what do you say to that? hard tohompson: it's accuse people of gaming the system without a hearing. that is all season asking for. gaming the system would mean she somehowg here and presenting herself as something she is not. if that is the case, and she does not have evidence to back up your claim, a judge will decide that and sent her home. -- send her home. at this point in her case, there

is no game yet. she is about to go to court. she has crossed the border. she has asked for asylum. she crossed the border illegally. if her illegal crossing and her asylum claims do not prosper, then she will be sent back. asking for asylum, seeking asylum is legal. there is no game. we are signatories to international conventions that require us to hear asylum seekers. that is where she has at this point. brian lamb: more from the common. -- comment. it says--

ginger thompson: propublica writes about people who live in poverty all of the time. i would really encourage this at ourto take a look entire website. there are stories about people have beenor and prosecuted criminally for no reason or who have served in the army and not gotten what they are due about that hospitals that are supposed to serve veterans and are doing it well. veterans who have been sick with agent orange and knock on the attention they need. we cover all of it. that does not mean we should not cover immigrants and what is happening to immigrants. this policy of separating children from their parents is

on the government. this is not the immigrants fall. -- fault. immigrants come here seeking an opportunity to make their case for saying. it was the government of the u.s. that decided to take the children away from them without any finding that these parents are unfit in any way to raise their children. what i call this mess that has been made, the government has to own it. it is not just me saying that. there is a federal judge in san diego who has ordered the government to try to fix this because he has found that this is a mess. it needs to be fixed. brian lamb: where did the zero tolerance policy start? ginger thompson: it started with the trump administration. jeff sessions announced it

officially in march of this year. it started with the trump administration. brian lamb: back to this topic. had a question, why wasn't the same 10 million allocated to create detention centers to clothes, house, and feed immigrants used to address our country's very own malnourished children, homeless vets, and impoverished citizens? ginger thompson: i think it is interesting. i do not completely disagree with this person. i disagree in that somehow the media has focused on a problem

that is not as big as other problems. i think we can walk and chew gum at the same time. we should be and are writing about all of them. by writing about immigrants does not mean we do not need to write about homelessness among veterans or that we should not be writing about on the attrition among children. i think propublica and many news organizations do all of those things. story andking one turning a blind eye to everything else is not there either -- they are either. in fairness, he is right that we are, as the media, we are big enough to tell all of the stories and we should be pursuing all of them. that does not mean we should not be telling this one. this one is important. it is how we treat newcomers. we call ourselves a nation of

immigrants. i think examining how we treat immigrants is an incredibly important and legitimate pursuit for a journalist. more than iyou know do have is the mexican economy is. do we ever say to them, look, this is costing us a lot of money? why aren't you working harder at stopping the flow across the border into the u.s.? ginger thompson: we say at all of the time. brian lamb: what are they say? ginger thompson: what they say, rightfully, is a cannot restrict the free movement of their people. just like we would not want the u.s. government to restrict our freedom of movement. they have been helpful to the u.s. and trying to stem the flow of central american migrants into mexico and into the u.s.. mexico has very tough immigration laws and it supports

large numbers of central americans every year. a lot of the central americans do not mean to stay in mexico. a are using mexico to get to the u.s.. u.s.o is a partner to the in trying to stem the flow of third country nationals into the u.s. stopping mexican people from moving is not something they can do. they do respond and they do want to be helpful in ways they can. they have tried and they have put money into it. we have given the money to help. again, the two countries are partners. how many americans have been killed because of mexicans -- mexican cartels send drugs to the country ? where do they get the drugs in the first place? ginger thompson: the number of

drugs death in this country has been soaring in the last couple of years. of the addiction problems -- the source of the addiction problems in this country is an issue that has been under great debate. the role not only played by mexican cartels, which is significant, but the role played by prescription drug companies in this come -- country. both are significant. the fact that mexican cartels move drugs into this country problem. is real and a requireseffort that mexico and the u.s. to work together. it is one of the reasons our relationship with mexico is so important. we need them to work with us on

security problems like drug cartels. can i put a number in lives on that fight? i can't. it is a significant number of people who die from prescription -- addictions to both protection medication and from heroin that is made in mexico and shipped across the border into the u.s. brian lamb: this is an accurate statement i think, since 2001 and we have been in afghanistan, they have never had more drug -- with the puppies over there. it is part of the drugs they get to mexico and find their way to the u.s.? a lot ofompson: mexican heroin is made for mexican coffee. it is not usually from afghanistan.

there are countries in south america, peru, bolivia. a lot of heroin is mexican made. brian lamb: you have been writing about mexico for 20 .ears or so ginger thompson: in the time i began writing about it, mexico played a larger role. before i started writing about the drug war, columbia was the primary -- played the leading role in the drug trade.

once we, the u.s. began prosecuting colombian traffickers in the u.s., meaning we would ask columbia to extradite them and we entered into a really sophisticated partnership with the colombian government to bring down cartels. once the cartels understood the risk of being prosecuted in the of thehey shifted a lot transportation part of the drug trade to mexicans. and would produce the drug select the mexicans and a lot of mexicans to say control of transporting drugs from south america to mexico into the u.s.. mexico became a leading player in the drug war. it's cartels began to control the trade in ways the colombians

used to. -- whenone cartels cartels began to play a more prominent role -- the prominent role in the drug trade. continues to be the case to this day, that the mexican cartels are still the larger players. they have taken several significant lows in recent years. many of the leaders of the cartels have been arrested. inre is a lot of disarray the cartels right now. some of them have not fully recovered and are looking for new leadership. they are struggling to reorganize. there is a bit of disarray in the world of cartels. brian lamb: a couple thousand

miles down on the mexican and u.s. border, what is your thinking as to whether or not the wall will ever be built? ginger thompson: there are parts of the wall that already exist. the president has talked about it. parts of the wall that began being built under president bush's administration. there will ever be a wall that stretches from one end to the other, it feels far-fetched. not only because congress does not seem to really want to spend the money that would take, but to physical -- being able easily put a wall on all of the parts the border. there was a story last year

about what the border looks like. if you flew a drone over one month of the water to the other, when you actually see the geography, you understand why. it is physically impossible to put a wall and some of these places. there are communities that don't want it down there, people who own pieces of land that will not give it to the government easily. there are so many obstacles. -- to actually making the while of reality. i'm not quite convinced it will happen. brian lamb: a few moments left. , under the zero tolerance policy, if the same thing happened to cindy and her daughter coming across the border, what happened today? ginger thompson: zero tolerance doesn't exist as it was. a judge ordered the administration to stop separating families, to stop

separating parents from the children. frankly, it is still unclear what is going to happen. what it looks like at this moment is the administration -- what happens to families as they will cross and be held together in a family detention facility and tell -- intel their asylum interviews happen. they are granted an opportunity to fully pursue an asylum claim. they will be released on bond and allowed to pursue their asylum claim outside of detention. thompson --ginger thompson is based in new york. she's a senior reporter for propublica. years ofveteran of 15 the new york times, several years of the baltimore sun, and the l.a. times and is a graduate of purdue university. thank you very much for joining us. ginger thompson: thank you very much for having me. ♪

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