c-span.org, or listen on the c-span radio app. -- wes morning we host spoke with the host of the online program "the young turks" about progressive opposition to the trump presidency. from "the washington journal." of the -- and creator of "the young turks." -- upfor getting so early early for us in l.a.. your reaction to the busy newsday yesterday. guest: now it is game on. we have significant issues here. paul manafort's trial did not have to do with donald trump, but with manafort -- but if manafort has information, he might be serving the rest of his life in prison, this would be the time to give it up. maybe he doesn't have any info. michael cohen we know for certain does have information on donald trump and has implicated or now in a federal crime

perhaps a high crime and misdemeanor. the president is in a world of trouble, if you are i were implicated in a federal crime like that, we would probably be arrested. host: or perhaps a high crime and misdemeanor. what would be a recommendation to democrats on capitol hill talking about this today? guest: my recommendation is win more seats. impeachment begins in the house, you need a majority of being judicial committee and the house. in terms of how to talk about it , democrats are always looking to over strategize and usually find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. just talk about what it is. the guy committed campaign-finance violations to pay off his mistress, if it was obama that had done this, guaranteed that the republicans would've started impeachment proceedings yesterday. don't over strategize, stick with the truth, the guy

committed a crime. host: is impeachment a talking point today? is this something the democrats we talking about on the campaign trail? guest: everybody's in a different camp on impeachment when it comes to the left and it is mixed. it doesn't fall the lines of progressives versus establishment which is usually the split. in this case there are people on both sides. if you were to ask me yesterday morning at this time, i would have been in the camp of no, you don't have it yet, you have to wait for mueller to say if he committed a crime or not. without doing that it is premature and doesn't help. now put aside the politics, this is the reality of the current situation, but today somebody went to to federal court pleaded guilty to a federal crime and said my co-conspirator was donald trump. while then now the facts have changed. i suppose impeachment is now on the table.

my fear is that the nancy pelosi types will say i don't know how that plays in nebraska, i'm going to do some political calculations and maybe i will get to it later. just do what is right. host: what changes if the president moves to pardon one or perhaps both of these men? guest: how much evidence to the american people need that the guy is guilty? first of all nonstop maniacal tweets of it is collusion, it is a witchhunt. the guy is literally off his rocker. he is mentally unbalanced. we are going around pretending the emperor has clothes on. unhinged andely why is he reacting in such a crazy over-the-top way? because he did it. likes he pardoning people sheriff joe arpaio to set a standard for? remember scooter libb he for no reason, it was obviously to say the people who have information on my criminal actions, i can

pardon you. now we are at a point where you have to pardon people that were literally his co-conspirators. if he does that, of course he should be impeached. close.ot even the only reason we are having this discovers asian is because -- this conversation is because donald trump is move the spectrum of close. sanity. any other president we would be talking about impeachment. since donald trump is so insane and he has moved over to the window, we are having a discussion about whether we should discuss impeachment, if he pardons his co-conspirators. is with us this morning. you can join the conversation on phone lines. republicans 202-748-8000 -- 202-748-8001, democrats 202-748-8000. independents 202-748-8002. c-span viewers know cenk uygur as the host of "the young turks." he will be with us until about 9:00 as folks are calling in,

how confident are you about a blue wave come november? >> very confident. my confidence is born of fact. i know that a lot of people love to say that polls are wrong or don't matter and from time to time they are, it depends on who they are polling. for an independent leaning candidates right or wrong like donald trump and bernie sanders, some of the polling will be off because they are polling likely voters and those candidates bring in unlikely voters. overall pair -- pulling is fairly accurate. already showed the 12ocrats are making up about or 13 point leads on republicans. that is gigantic. be a ways there will that a minimum and potentially assumed nominee -- a sioux nominee. independence, go

ahead. >> i want to thank c-span. this guy is totally wrong. paying hush money is not a crime. if that was the case, all the senators who paid -- to have this sex abuse slush fund to pay off for their misdeeds would all be in jail are ready. just because michael cohen and lanny davis said it was a crime, it is not a crime. it was a plea deal. it was not adjudicated in court. this guy is totally, totally wrong. guest: the only problem you have is the facts are not on your side. i know you get brainwashed by trump saying something. so he says absurd things like collusion is not a crime. but conspiracy is. he is just using a different word. you are saying hush money is not a crime, that is true. money duringy hush over theon and it is

legally allowed contribution which is what michael cohen did, michael cohen technically legally was only allowed to give $2700 to mike -- to donald trump's campaign. he gave $150,000 when he did one of those hush payments, that is illegal. it is not the hush money problem , it is that he is breaking campaign-finance laws. by the way, do you want people breaking those laws? do you want them to be able to bribe off politicians? that is the swamp. whether it is hillary clinton or donald trump, jr. want people coming up and being able to give $150,000 completely outside of the law for god knows what favors they want. yes it is absolutely a crime. and in the case of paul manafort, paul manafort's case doesn't have to do with donald trump. it is about an earlier case of his corruption when it came to the pro-russian ukrainian government. if trump really does not have

anything to hide, he won't pardon manafort. the case doesn't have anything to do with tron. the only reason you would pardon manafort is if he is guilty and he knows that manafort has other information on him that he is about to release. so you can see a head of time whether he is guilty or not if you bother to have an open mind. host: you mentioned the swamp and the indictments. i wonder your thoughts on congressman duncan hunter's indictment in california. guest: here we go again. another republican, another crook, another one who is totally hypocritical. all these republican saying we take -- care about taxpayer money. if they meant that it would be wonderful. what do they do instead? , anotherse campaign-finance violation. the people gave $250,000 to his campaign. system is atrocious,

it is systemic corruption. donors can just give money to politicians campaign and do independent expenditures. system ison top of that duncans not happy with just taking legalized bribes, he takes money out of his campaign and spends it for italian vacations, dental work and to fly his pet rabbit around on a plane and he took your donations and put it in his pocket. that is what criminals do. and i hopeotal crime we have justice in this country and that he is put in prison. host: jeffrey in auburn, new york, a democrat, good morning. william'scall from hometown and i am military. i served my time during the cold war. u.s. navy. every member of my family is military connected and our family goes back to the pilgrims

and we have been in this country that long. anyhow. to support the military, praise the lord and pass the and munition because every war conflict or military skirmish with have since world war ii, we supplied one side, we are the biggest arms dealer in the world. russia supply the other. it was like a chicken fight and russia's high the arms that killed or wounded every soldier in korea and every soldier in vietnam. it is a travesty that we are supporting godless communists and anybody that is a republican that says lipservice to you support the military, it is pure lipservice and it is disingenuous to say this when soldier that died or was wounded in these conflicts, including the iraq war because russia supplied iran and the afghanistan's war because russia supply to taliban.

host: thank you, jeff. guest: there is one part obviously i don't agree with their because the russians are not communist anymore, they are probably on the off that -- opposite end of the spectrum. of russian the camp has to be our enemy and they have to be that way forever, and i think sometimes we fight about from the past. having said that, russia has chosen to interfere in our elections and i'm not as concerned about them putting out fake post on social media as some of the democrats are, but what i am concerned about is their attempts to hack into voting booths which are incredibly vulnerable. if they are going to try and mess with our democracy, then i guess they have chosen to be our enemy. it is an unfortunate choice, but that should have consequences. most importantly we have to protect those voting areas.

republicans care about voter fraud, we have to verify every single election, how can we not agree upon this? like tulsieople gabbard in house of look to spend more money we all have paper ballots. if you're a public in the worries about voter fraud or interference, you should love that and same with the democrats. yet we can't get agreement on a simple concept like that. there are now republicans that are irrationally in favor of russia. what a twist that is. they say vladimir putin is a good guy like george w. bush did. he said he looked into his eyes and saw he had a good heart. preposterous. if you're in that camp you have to ask yourself why you are in that camp. you shouldn't have irrational hatred or love, you should judge on their actions. and their recent actions have not been good. host: the senate is in this week

along with judicial nominations. one of the things up there is nominee brett kavanaugh meeting with their areas members of the senate ahead of his supreme court confirmation process. a story from today's washington times about his meeting with chuck schumer yesterday. also meeting with several other republicannd a key in his confirmation process, susan collins of maine. i know one of your concerns about brett kavanaugh's nomination has been the future of roe v. wade. susan to play what collins had to play about her meeting with brett kavanaugh because she also had concerns. [video clip] you had concerns after looking through his record, what are the wreck -- concerns? >> we talked about them. i talked about them at length that his decision in regards to the case which is the only case dealing with abortion in which

he has rendered his decision. we talked about whether he roe to be settled law and he said he agreed to what justice roberts said in his nomination hearing in which he says that it was settled law. good thorough discussion about that issue and many others. host: do those comments make you any more comfortable with the nominating? guest: of course not. like the youngle turks is because we say things you're not allowed to say in washington that are obviously true. guess what, people lie in her confirmation hearings. dance around the truth, they live. ryan zinke he did and said he will not give away a square inch of public land. and then they gave away huge part of our monuments and then we caught them last week trying

to sell off 1600 acres in utah. they lie all the time. ben carson said he wouldn't do the things he is doing at hide. all the justices pretend they have new -- no political leanings. they pretend their political opinions don't affect their decisions and yet somehow when they wind up on the supreme court, all the liberals vote in the liberal direction all conservatives vote in the conservative directions not even judicially, but on political issues. bush v gore, the republicans came to death claim to care about state rights but they destroyed it. they are total liars. kavanaugh comes in and says these of the decisions i made were a question roe v. wade, i agree with robert lies during his confirmation hearings about how we called and i won't question is settled law. i don't believe it. it is pretty little lies you

tell susan collins so she can say i asked him and he said he was ok. and now dutifully as a republican i will vote for him. those who didn't meet with them, should they -- those who met with kavanaugh, should they have met with them? host: guest: of course they should, it doesn't mean they should vote for him. tom carper of delaware should be embarrassed for his vote. kavanaugh's one of most right-wing justices in the country. tom carper has a primary and delaware coming up, we should vote them out. host: line for republicans, nina, good morning. you are on. guest: i just had -- caller: i just had a question about paul manafort.

he has been doing this shady stuff with tax fraud and all for years, why has it taken this long and why under this president before they started delving into all of his misbehaving's and tax evasion? host: do you think it is more about the president that he works for then his own deceit? forer: it is not so much the president, but they've known about this for years and it is kind of hypocritical they waited until this president got in before getting at him. a partisan is not issue because manafort is a lifelong republican and he worked for five different republican presidents. i suppose it could've gotten him under reagan, but if he is really a lifelong criminal. the specific charges here are related to what he is done in backing former

president of ukraine. he didn't do that in the reagan era, he did that recently. i am bothered by this as well maybe for different reasons because i feel like there is a lot of people in washington that do this kind of shady lobbying and certainly plenty of rich and powerful people in this country who hide their money abroad and she don't taxes all the time and they don't get caught. manafort happen to get caught up in this investigation and the fact they caught him is great, he is a criminal and when he cheats on his taxes and height $30 million -- and hides $30 million, that cost the rest of the taxpayers so i'm glad we got him. i think they should do these investigations more regularly to show the nonstop corruption in washington. host: helen, democrat, good morning. caller: thanks for taking my call. i am calling to say that when i look at paul manafort, i looked at him as he was being brought in to the administration and

what i saw at that time in his background and wondered why was he being brought into the united states after helping to overturn ukraine. there are others in the administration who are part of this whole gang that is going on. i hear you say about the blue wave, we are in crisis right now , blue wave will take place in november and where i'm looking at and what i know, we don't have that much time. who isying to figure out the base for the president. i see some of the same people at all rallies wherever they are. that people in the crowds are african-american, i want to know how they travel all over the united date -- united states? how many of these people are russians who maintain the same script every day? could we please protect our land and not this man. 400amily has been here over

years. we fought for this country. i'm fighting for now. host: do you think president trump has paid crowd that his rallies? guest: we know in the past he has. i doubt use doing it now. it is more competition than that. in the announcement speech he was running for president we found out later he paid $50 per head for people to show up and pretend to be his fans. which is hilarious. later the crowds were absolutely real and they are real now. with the notable exception of a couple people. the right wing has an ecosystem that is funded by billionaires who want tax cuts. so they do pay some people to fly around the country and attend trump rallies but they certainly find certain people and they usually like to pick some ethnicities, let me keep it real i think what the caller is referring to is that like to

find african-americans and bring them to all the rallies so they can go what do you mean, i've got african-american friends. overall the more important part is that the right-wing billionaires do actually pay a lot of the people you see on tv gobs of money to do propaganda for them including the person on she ise, ann coulter, paid nonstop by right-wingers to spread their hatred and fear and largely for her profit and their profit when they get deregulation past. you: is there a question had for her if you were able to stick around? guest: i debated her for a whole hour once and i got my answer. she basically said at the beginning that it is a put on, it is all an act she does and it's a gross, disgusting act

where she plays on the fear and hatred of americans for money. i hope she is proud. host: virginia is in pennsylvania, republican, good morning. caller: good morning. what the american people really want is hillary clinton, schumer, obama, and all of the other corrupt rotten thieves. taking care of first. as lying goes, nobody lies like a democrat. host: anything you want to respond to? guest: of course i do. based on what? amazing the power of propaganda in this country. let me keep it real with you guys. if you set i'm worried about hillary clinton's systemic corruption because of all the money she is taken from donors, guess who would agree with you?

me. i made that case over and over during the primaries because it's true. she took $225,000 from goldman sachs and i was personal money put in her pocket. i can go on and on. systemic, institutional corrupt in. you are right. but she didn't violate any of those laws. obama, i don't know what you are talking about. i have my own problems with him, but he didn't break any laws. so you have just been fed that propaganda into your head, you just blurted out they should go after hillary and obama and schumer. i have no love for schumer at all. but what crime did he commit? you are just pulling stuff out of your you know what? host: do you think bernie sanders will run for president again? guest: i don't have any more information than you do but it sure looks like it.

host: and he is a candidate you would support if he ran? guest: i am not about personalities, i'm about change. i think this system is fundamentally corrupt, i think money corrupted. the fact we allow legalized bribery in the country is insanity called campaign contributions, dark money, independent expenditures. bernie sanders wants to go against those things and if he continues to fight against those, i will be on his side. there are a lot of people like elizabeth warren who put together maybe the best piece of legislation i've seen in the last 20 years against corruption. republicans and democrats should all supported and probably none of them will because most of them are corrupt and are looking to take lobbyist money when they retire, they are looking forward to hiring lobbyists and they represent donors and not voters. anyone to fight corruption, i am on their side. host: i wonder your thoughts on how progressives like bernie

sanders, elizabeth warren, how they are doing in their endorsements in the primaries ahead of the midterms? elizabeth warren is five for five and her endorsements and bernie sanders though five for ,ine innings endorsements compared to people like joe biden was 10 for 10 in his endorsements. the democratic party committee clocking in at 37 of 39. viewers can see this at 538. does that mean anything? guest: yes and no. overall the whole thing is misleading. 538 does good work, it is just this is a generally useless chart. why? let me explain. joe biden comes in endorses people who have the most amount of money in their base -- race that are establishment democrats.

you went 10 for 10, who cares. it is not interesting, he is not taking any chances and is supporting people that already have everyone else behind them. i like joe biden, but that is the reality of what is he doing. whereas is bernie sanders is taking some chances on people like brett in kansas' third district. he did not win but he was a wonderful progressive. i don't mind taking that chance and losing. as long as you are actually fighting for the american people. that is why this chart is misleading, but on the other is the does tell you people who are actually willing to put their next on the line and try to get real change. and justiceution democrats don't have a quote unquote great winning record, that is a bit incorrect. but that is because they took a chance on people like alexandria cozzi a cortez that people thought had no chance.

it turns of they were wrong and we were right. host: who are the justice democrats reviewers who don't know? guest: it is a progressive uncorrupted wing of the democratic party. they take no corporate pack money so they represent you and not their donors. they are very progressive. medicare for all, which gives health care to all americans, medicare pulls at 77%. there is no reason why it should only be for senior citizens, it should be for the whole country. and fight for higher wages and economic dignity. all the things the people want easily but are fought against by establishment democrats and republicans. host: you helped found that group? guest: yes i did. host: you are no longer part of that, correct? guest: no, technically i'm not. but i support them. host: why not? guest: we had a bit of a disagreement on an old issue. that is water under the bridge, we are totally passed it and there is a lot of distractions

of the right wing puts out there, so in that case, when i was at -- agoleted those a long time not when i got caught, but because i didn't stand by them. bless, this is a normal part of the attack machine you get involved in. i signed up for it. past that issue. what we care about most is policy, not politics, not attacks, but policy. what are we going to do for the american people? are going to give them higher wages and health care? will we give that kids an opportunity to get a college education to live the american dream? anyone trying to distract you from that. host: cenk uygur with us taking your calls and questions. police, thanks for waiting -- elise, thanks for waiting. caller: i love the young turks, you guys have been spreading the

truth for a long time. thank you very much. newstly i heard on the they are finding that the voting machines are being tampered with and my suggestion to the american people and i posted on facebook every day to vote by mail, just vote by mail. that way you don't have to deal with these machines. i understand that all the states don't have voting by mail for whatever reason, but if every their countyled register of voters, they are sent to the absentee ballots and they can vote by mail. that way you don't have to wait in line, you don't have to stand in the snow, you don't have to machine, trying to figure it out, it is just a better way to vote and i trust the united states post office much more so than i do the

machines being tampered machine. host: cenk uygur on election security. guest: there are a couple of parts of absurdities in our election process. do i know the machines are being tampered with? i don't, but that is part of the problem. we have no certainty whether they are or are not tampered with. in the election a couple weeks ago in the same kansas third kobach wasris running for governor. kris kobach is losing by 13 points in johnson county. all of a sudden johnson county, the person in charge of elections there says there is a computer glitch here, he was appointed by kris kobach. hoursthey take hours upon in the glitch happened and 9:00 p.m. come of a so-called fix it at 5:50 a.m. and it comes out and says he won the county.

he was down by 13 points, how did he win the county? maybe it is legit, maybe the later parts did vote for him, that is entirely possible. so how can the citizens of johnson county, kansas know if actually voted for him? we are not going to tell you. what you mean you're not going to tell us? they don't share with the public at all, or the press. someone wants to look at the computer the tabulated the vote and they say no, the desk that is from a private company. andwe privatizing elections handing over to a private company that says your votes are my proprietary information? that is insanity. we ship paper ballots across the country and everybody should be able to verify. host: in milwaukee, chris is waiting period -- is waiting. his former campaign

strategists was paid a million dollars a month and for people who don't know him, he helped get elected a dictators and that it towards russia. bernie sanders is one of the only candidates who didn't release his tax returns along with donald trump, and only released a two-page financial statement. it looks like he might be involved in some of this. i want to know your thoughts on that? guest: i don't think bernie sanders is involved at all. but your points about ted devine and tax returns are fine. i have no idea what ted devine did or did not do. i understand paul manafort was not convicted for lobbying for the ukraine, he was convicted for hiding the money that he got from you rain and is convicted for fraud that he did afterwards to try and get more loans. so ted devine did not do those lee -- illegal activities, he

just lobby. if you don't like that he did the lobbying, i hear you. senator vitter should release those tax returns. host: he was one of the witnesses that the mueller team brought in to the case against paul manafort. guest: that is right. his testimony was mixed. he said we did legitimate obviously would manafort did afterwards with the money was the real crime. host: tom in dayton, ohio, republican. caller: good morning. i've been a republican since donald trump ran for president. this is so one-sided. himavid g trump telling gave a letter to trump telling him comey knew to be fired. your hillary clinton and bill clinton. bill clinton paid 5000 $500,000 in their charity pay tens of

millions of dollars, but that is ok. this is a one-way street mr.. , democrats areat going to lose for one reason, law and order. we want law and order. that immigrant the other day killed mali. he shouldn't have been in the country and people are fed up with it. guest: that was hilarious. if you are for law and order, you should be for convicting manafort, michael cohen, it there is a legal investigation donald trump and he wants to avoid the law. if you are for law and order you should be 100% in favor of the mueller investigation which is about law and order. so there is this insanity where they say those latinos coming in, i hate them, law and order on them. they are committing a most a misdemeanor by crossing the border to try and find a home

for their families and those of the guys you want to crush, but the guy the very top that has the way ifer, and by he hasn't broken the law, we will find out in that will be fine, but there is the possibility he broke laws and you say no, let the powerful get away with it but crush the powerless. what kind of sick law and order is that? that is no law and order. host: the caller brought up the mollie tibbetts case. president trump did not mention paul manafort or michael cohen at his rally in west virginia but he did mention mollie tibbetts and i case out in iowa. here's the story on the front page of washington times. murder charges. i wonder your thoughts on that case and the president bringing it up. guest: this is what they do. they do selective cases to put out propaganda. let me claim what i mean. there are thousands of voters

across the country. you could take a handful of them and say oh my god the scourge of crime in this country, you know who commits a lot of crime in this country? area nation. it's one of the biggest gangs in the -- area and nation -- ar yan nation. i can find dozens of crimes they committed and go on a rampage. you are selectively picking cases to make a political point to spread fear and hatred when you're targeting these particular people. so the question you should be asking yourself at home is to undocumented immigrants commit more crimes or less crimes than the average american? lucky for you there are facts on this and people have studied it at length. undocumented immigrants commit far less crimes than the average american. if you care about law and order, -- say we have to protect

our borders, that is a fair argument. if you say i think all undocumented immigrants are rapists and criminals like donald trump said, you are wrong . on average they commit less crime. you bought into donald camera -- on propaganda that donald trump has to get people to hate -- get you to hate people. host: cenk uygur with us for about 20 more minutes. caller: my question to your guest is what do you think about donna brazil giving debate questions to hillary clinton and also what do you think about pickingasserman schultz

hillary clinton gets bernie sanders? guest: the young turks was the first to break the donna brazil according tosaid the papers that were leaked to that she gave answers -- questions to hillary clinton that would come up in the debate. she denies it. then she finally knowledge to energy turned all the way back around and said it was rigged. the dnc got paid by the clintons and they were favoring hillary clinton. that is what we were saying during the primaries. it was super obvious. we were right and most of the establishment media who pooh-poohed the idea were wrong. i don't ever a lot of apologies about that. if you are concerned about hillary clinton affecting elections in that way, you are right to be concerned. by the way it is known for the , i'm no fan of her supporters, but what they did was not a legal unfortunately.

but they did definitely favor the clinton camp over bernie sanders are in the primary. the established the democrats have now completely change their story. in 2016 when hillary clinton was leading, they said we shouldn't have primaries, the primaries are hurtful, which have less debates, not more debates, let's wrap it up. now the bernie sanders of the most popular politician in the country, all of a sudden the establishment says we have to have a really big primary. primaries are wonderful. we should have as many as possible. what happened to clearing the field? oh when bernie sanders's leading all of a sudden you are not in favor of clearing the field. i am used to the establishment lies. host: nancy, democrat, go ahead. caller: thanks for taking my call. a quick comment and a quick question.

ihave always been a democrat, am 68 and since i could vote of 21 years of age. we have lost several elections to republicans, but back then we had true statesman. we can work across the aisle, we worked with them. democrats are in a fury right now is because who we lost two. any other republican we could've dealt with, but it is him we object to. question, god for bid this potus should decide to or bothanafort or cohen , can congress or the senate block his pardon while this mueller investigation is still going on because there are going to be ties to a down the road as

they said during the bush administration. thank you for your comment about the legal murders versus the wife guys who murder his and two daughters in colorado. host: got your point. cenk uygur on the constitutional authority to pardon? guest: unfortunately congress cannot do anything about it. so if he pardons them, he pardons them. but there could be consequences for those actions. the natural consequences for pardon your co-conspirators is impeachment. will the republicans vote for impeachment? very unlikely. they are not patriots, they don't really care about the country. it is a misnomer when people on television talk about the honorable gentleman from connecticut, they are not honorable. all they care about is their donor money. they will go after donors. probably their donors sitting

fat with tax cuts they got will say he helped my bottom line, keep him in office. so the republicans will not care about what the law is and i would be shocked if they vote for impeachment even if was as plain as can be. host: do you think president trump could pardon himself? aest: really if you are republican claim for law and order and you have a president to pardons himself, are you still going to stay with him? the answer is likely yes because he was right, he could shoot a guy in fifth avenue and you would say he had it coming, i'm sure he was protecting himself. you would make any excuse. the president pardoning himself is preposterous. he should of course immediately be impeached, immediately. the fact he is even discussing pardoning himself tells you he is obviously guilty. why are we having a conversation about pardoning yourself if you didn't do it?

if the exit follows through on it, how stupid do you have to be to think he didn't commit the crime? host: john in nazareth, pennsylvania, republican. caller: thank you for taking my call. it is not a to speak to the caller. tyt worldworks for and now he works for the turkish government. my question for you is regarding the situation with turkey and the sanctions, where do you think the future is for president trump in the election , i lived by -- a turkish clergyman wanted by the turkish government. why are we protecting a terrorist knowingly that we should send him back because he has taken over our christian churches and universities and president trump i thought was going to do something about it

and nothing is being done. what you think the future is with turkey and the united states? guest: i don't want to way too much and turkish politics, it is not my expertise, but i know they're not a lot of winners there. the u.s. putting tariffs on turkey makes no sense. we put tariffs on canada, that doesn't make any sense either. donald trump being a usual madman. 's response to being leader of turkey is not a good one. one, it is ather good question as to why the government is protecting them. you have to ask american government. here in d.c., independent, go ahead. caller: firstly i would like to much respect to cenk uygur. grad, ieorgetown law believe he is a national debt --

i didn't vote for hillary clinton, i couldn't vote because of the violent crime control and law enforcement act with many african-americans were been in prison for various offenses in a very one-sided manner, my question is do you feel the enough to party is combat the gullible christian right whether against trump or pence? then i had a second question regarding biometric crypto voting to possibly solve some of this voter tampering going on. i am happy to say that there are certain things i know expertise in. if you thought i did know about turkish politics, wait until you get into how i -- how little i know about biometric crypto voting. i don't know about that, but

thank you for your incredibly nice comments about me. i will address the part i do know. about democratic unity. i have an opinion that i think should be noncontroversial, although it is for the two different camps within the democratic party. i think the primaries are fantastic, i believe when bernie sanders was trailing in 2016, i believe when he is leading in 2020. i don't change my principles based on the situation. i think the primary makes the party better and it is a great opportunity to elect uncorrupted progresses. please if you're out there even if your public in our democrat, go vote in your primaries so you get the leaders you can actually believe in. ,nce you're past the primary then vote for whoever you think is better. or even not worse. people sit a lesser two evils is still evil, yes, but it is still the lesser of the two evils. in the case 2016 i thought it

was an easy vote voter bernie sanders in the primary and i thought was an easy vote to vote for hillary clinton and general election. bernie sanders was not in the general, nor was any progressive. i did not think to the brink rate change, but what you better than donald trump? absolutely. i would say i've been proven right on that. host: how do you feel about the movement and the term democratic socialist? so i think people spend too much time on terms. i, as of a capitalist and people get mad at that. it depends of where you are on the spectrum. we live in as socialist country. almost every country is. it's a mixed economy. some parts of private and some are public. if you're a right-winger and your head is exploding, what do you think is public in this country? the cops are public. , oryou think they should

private fire -- it is not that we would for bid you from having private security because your love and have it, but yes we have public education, public protection. the military is the biggest public program there is. if you like the military, you like big government. i believe something should be public like schools, etc.. at least something should be private. germany, sweden is a mixed economy. almost every country in the world is on that spectrum. the only question is where should we be on the spectrum? what should be public and what should be private? the real debate we are having is over a sliver of the economy. for example, nobody is saying we should take mcdonald's public in -- and the government should run it. no one is saying that. therehey are saying is

are things like health care that should be public like education or cops because we have a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and nothing affect their life more than our health. it is a pretty logical argument and is one that all of the rest of the developed world has agreed to. they all have public health longer,e and they live they of better health care than us it'd cost them half the money. host: time for a few more calls. ashley, thank you for waiting in tennessee, independent. caller: thank you for taking my call. ask what he thought of the lack of retrospect concerning the russian investigation especially given the spears in the past that shows -- conspiracy the past

which is high officials during a cold war that pushed the red scare. out i want to point recently saw rubio speaking on c-span talking about voter identity, whatever that other caller was talking about and they were talking about $400 million to bring back paper votes. thank you. first of all, no problem on the name, it is a hard name. ands spelled with a c pronounce with a j so don't sweat that. on the red scare, i don't know why people still bring it up. it isn't communist russia anymore, it is not the soviet union, it is a different russia. on the exact opposite end of the spectrum. it is borderline fascist. so this isn't about the red scare and if talking about russians in general, i am out.

i have nothing against russian people, no progressive in their right mind would discriminate on any ethnicity. if we are talking about specific crimes the russians might of committed, especially when it comes to voter rolls, i don't care but it is russia or china or anyone who does that, i am against it and we should take action. host: david, west virginia, independent, good morning. c-span.i love your show putcome when your guests out false news about donald and rapists,him mexican illegals, he thinks all mexicans that illegals a rapists. and they put that information out there, the host doesn't correct these people.

donald trump never said that. he said some of the illegals coming across the border are rapists. but these people get on their day by day and i heard even callers calling in and they're saying the donald trump things -- thinks all mexicans are rapists and people say this every day and some of these callers out there are believing that. you keep saying that over and over and that is fake news and that's what donald trump, president trump is saying is fake news and if you keep saying that enough, enough dumb people out there believe it. president trump never said, he said some people and all you have to do is google it and you will see it. thank you, have a nice day and correct these people when they say that. and that you are democratic congress people who get on host: c-span and say it all the time. host:got your point. guest: donald trump came out in

his first speech ever when announcing his presidency and ascetic consistently throughout these years. he said mexico is sending criminals and rapists. and then he added i suppose there are some good people. putou take up mexican and in any under ethnicities how horrible that sounds great imaginative presidential candidate said israel is sending criminals and rapists here, but i suppose there are some good jews. you would say all my god that is terrible and you would be right. but when he says about muslims and mexicans, he said he didn't say all -- this guy goes he didn't say all mexicans. he just said there are a lot of them. is't forget that is how he trying to drive fear and hatred towards one particular group. and your big excuse is he didn't say all of them. while. -- wow. march inral fascists

charlottesville and he says there is good on both sides. do you want to brag that he didn't say all not these are good people? com -- congratulations. caller: i got a call. i heard you talk about primaries. i suppose you are again super delegates as well. my big deal is with caucuses. because caucuses, i waited, stood in a gymnasium for four hours to to spain a caucus and so only the younger or more avid enthusiasts were out there and they were predominantly bernie people. if you want to have a fair primary process, why don't we just have all primaries and no caucuses because you only have -- i almost called them fanatics

, but the most enthusiastic supporters that attend the caucuses and about 80% or 90% don't want to bother standing there for four hours to be counted. guest: all legitimate points. all legitimate points and a good debate about caucuses. 100 begin -- 100% against superdelegates. do not know why they get the vote over the ordinary democrat and the democratic party should be embarrassed to have a system like that when the republicans don't. in terms of the caucuses, upsides and downsides. even in what you mention, people were enthusiastic to vote for bernie sanders. that was a good indication of what may happen in the general election. nobody was excited about hillary. not enough of them voted and she lost the electoral college. excited tove been vote for bernie sanders and more people may have showed up and he

probably would have one, up 12 point against donald trump on election day. he would've had a better chance than hillary clinton. caucusesher hand, the do exclude some people. it is a fair debate to have within the democratic party. d.c.,jim and washington, republican. caller: i think the guest is wrong. he is brainwashed. no matter what donald trump does, if he solved world hunger, the democrats would find something wrong. no matter what he does, with korea, you will find something wrong. this is politically motivated. it is a witchhunt. paul manafort had nothing to do with trump and the allegations

of the payments with the woman, that is not legal, he pay it out of his own funds. the democrats are looking for anything to bring him down and i think it is biased and not fair. caller: here we go -- guest: here we go again. how quick how immediately they took talking points out of donald trump's speeches and regurgitate them. when you pay -- in regards to campaign finance laws, you cannot give someone $150,000 for the benefit of their campaign. that is not legal and what michael cohen did and apparently what donald trump directed him to do, according to michael cohen. we believe in the rule of law. it looks like with the public information we have, it appears she broke the law.

we will find out if that is true. never giving him credit, that is not true, we care about policy. the transpacific partnership, i am against it, that is the corporations writing our laws for us and i do not agree. i give donald trump credit for that. on cable newse did fear mongering around the meeting with korea. you do not get to make peace with your friends. you make peace with your enemies. i do not mind he met with kim jong-un, i just wish he got results but he got no results. but he said, now we do not have a nuclear problem in north korea but they are still building nukes. he is not that bright. i judge him on his actions, not based on his being donald trump. it's like whatever he does, i am fine with it, who cares about law and order.

he gets nothing out of negotiations, who cares. he was going to close a loophole on hedge fund taxes. i said during the campaign, not sure i believe him but if he follows through, i will give him credit. then they did the giant tax cut for the rich. they did not close the loophole for hedge funds. donald trump is a liar. he lied about that. ,e is not looking out for you he is looking out for the guys who gave him money. he said he would negotiate drug prices with the drug companies on behalf of the government to lower drug prices. drug prices are terrible. i said i hope he does that. watch the young turks. i am on the record on all of those things. when he is president, he did not negotiate drug prices. he went along with the corruption because he is corrupt. and drug prices are still sky high.

he did not do any campaign promises. host: donald trump has tweeted this morning. he says, about 15 minutes ago, anyone looking for a good lawyer , i would suggest you do not retain the services of michael cohen. final thoughts on that tweet? bad": to quote "breaking -- donald trump did not need a criminal attorney, donald trump needed in "criminal" attorney. he is now crying about, the guy i paid to cover up my crimes is not covering them up anymore. host: cenk uygur is the host of young turks.

>> coverage starts just under one hour from now. later more live coverage from white house. president trump will the medal of honor to an airman killed in afghanistan that starts at 3:30 eastern. we ever there for you on c-span. a panel discussion on cyber warfare hosted by the atlantic council set to start at 4:00 p.m. eastern. we will bring that live on c-span after the medal of honor ceremony. at primetime programming, government officials testified before the senate judiciary subcommittee on cyber threats and we will show that to you in its entirety starting at 8:00 eastern on c-span. saturday at 11:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. live coverage of the democratic national committee summer meeting in chicago to decide on

changes to the party's presidential nominating process including the role of superdelegates. watch live saturday at 11:00 eastern. listen on the free c-span radio app. >> the c-span buses traveling across the country on our 50 capitals to war. the bus is on its 39th stop in honolulu asking folks what is the most important issue in hawaii. you see these lemon groves, one of the big issues is will the have a place to live, will they have -- be able to afford to stay in the home of their birth. we have a huge homeless situation right now. we are looking for ways to take them off of the streets and i think the problem will get worse if we do not take care of it now. >> i am from hollande --

honolulu, hawaii. one of the important issues i feel we are facing is trying to manage work life balance. i work full-time, my husband we havell time and three young children and are trying to take care of everyone. >> i think more than ever for hawaii we need to continue the spirit which is a life

meaning unity. h standing for humility and a meaning patients. if we could all promote and live within this aloha spirit, we could all be in a better place not only in the city and county of honolulu and the state of hawaii, but across the nation. >> join us october 6 and seventh when we feature our visit to hawaii. c-span,waii weekend on c-span.org or listen on the c-span radio app. >> earlier today, author ann coulter joined us to talk about liberalism and the trump presidency and her new book "how the trump hating left lost its collective mind." on today's washington journal. we welcome author and syndicated columnist ann coulter who is out with a new book, "resistance is futile.". we will get to the book but first i want to make use of your legal background and get your thoughts. caller: i was wondering if that might come up. [laughter] -- guest: i was wondering if that might come up. [laughter] guest: i write a little about both cases in the book. the paul manafort case has nothing